Completed tests of the hull of the next submarine of the project "Ash-M"

The press service of the JSC PO North Machine-Building Enterprise (Severodvinsk) reported on the completion of the hydraulic testing of the nuclear submarine hull of the 885М projectAsh-M"Krasnoyarsk": "The submarine successfully passed a leak test, and the hull withstood the design characteristics laid down by the designer. At present, further planned work is under way related to the preparation of the body for insulation and installation work. ”

The lead ship of project 885, designed by the St. Petersburg Maritime Bureau of Engineering "Malachite" - the multipurpose nuclear submarine with cruise missiles "Severodvinsk" - took up combat service as part of the Northern fleet in 2014. The following ships of the series (Kazan, Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk and Arkhangelsk) are being built according to the improved design 885M Yasen-M. Krasnoyarsk was founded on July 27, 2014.

According to the current to plans, Sevmash will build seven submarines for the YNF of the Russian Federation 855 Yasen and 885M Yasen-M. Work is being done on six of them. The fourth-generation low-noise boat is capable of performing all the functions of a multi-purpose torpedo hunter boat, but it also carries cruise missiles. The maximum travel speed is 16 surface nodes and 31 submarine node. Crew - 85 man. The arsenal consists of ten 533-mm torpedo tubes, Granit cruise missiles and anti-submarine missiles. The boat can carry up to 32 anti-ship missiles P-800 "Onyx" (firing range - up to 300 km) or cruise missiles of the "Caliber" complex.

As the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported on 2016 in April, the crew of the Severodvinsk submarine of the 885 project serving in the Northern Fleet completed a successful launch of the Caliber sea-launched cruise missile from a submerged position. “The launch was carried out from the water area of ​​the Barents Sea along the coastal training target at the Chizha range in the Arkhangelsk region. The rocket hit the training target with high accuracy. ”

Comments

[Titsen]

Only such news is encouraging - there is still Russia and we all have a real ally - the Army and the Navy!

[hohryakov066]

More submarines, good and different!

[kolkulon]

Submarines bake like pies. At 14m they laid it down, at 17m it’s ready.

[Oden280]

Not in a hurry, apparently the RCC “Zircon” is waiting, so as not to redo it later.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Oden280

Not in a hurry, apparently the RCC “Zircon” is waiting, so as not to redo it later.

Zircon will be put on the Husky nuclear submarine ... there were no statements about Ash-M that they would put on the 855-M. Caliber and Onyx will be placed on Yasheny-M. But if the Zircon anti-ship missiles are identical in size to the above missiles, then this missile will probably fall into the list of Asheni's arsenal.
The problem of delays and time shifts of Ash-M is not in Zircons ...

[Muvka]

But what about the X-101?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

But what about the X-101?

X-101 (X-102 in the version with a nuclear warhead) - strategic cruise missile air-to-surface using technologies to reduce radar visibility ..
What side is she to the submarine?

[Muvka]

Well, look at the little sketch. And in general a lot where it is mentioned that they want to put X-101 on an ash tree.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

Well, look at the little sketch. And in general a lot where it is mentioned that they want to put X-101 on an ash tree.

Well, if Ash-M flies, which I have no doubt about, then yes, of course, they will put the X-101 on it.

[Muvka]

What's the problem? They will set the booster stage and that’s all - the rocket is ready.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

What's the problem? They will set the booster stage and that’s all - the rocket is ready.

Well, yes ... just a couple of questions ...
First, why didn’t the Caliber suit you in this case? Or do you think that the X-101 with the submarine will fly at the same range as with the Swan? If, as you say, it will be delivered to Ash, then its range will be about the same as that of Caliber-PL. Why? Yes, because the X-4500 flies from an already flying platform to a range of 5500-101 km and it does not need fuel to gain height and accelerate.
The second question is, what for reinvent the wheel?

[Muvka]

Do you know what the booster stage is for? And the difference in range is huge. Therefore, the X-101 is more interesting.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Muvka

Do you know what the booster stage is for? And the difference in range is huge. Therefore, the X-101 is more interesting.

Yes, there won’t be much difference in range ... Caliber-PL or Onyxes will be installed ... perhaps when accepting Zircons and it will be possible to put them in AS Ash ... and the x-101 was developed specifically for Swans and Bears, that is for air carriers ...

[vnedra]

and also to teach poplars to fly, generally wakes up cool))))

[Boa kaa]

Quote: NEXUS

Well, if Ash-M flies, which I have no doubt

"With a sense of humor - good! It's bad without him ..." (C)
NEXUS,

[NEXUS]

Quote: kolkulon

Submarines bake like pies. At 14m they laid it down, at 17m it’s ready.

She is still ready, as before creeping up to China ...

“The submarine successfully passed a leak test, and the hull withstood the design characteristics laid down by the designer. Currently, further planned work is underway related to the preparation of the enclosure for insulation and installation work. ”

We checked the case ... and now the "fun" will begin, which will last more than one year. The closest submarine of the Yasen-M project "Kazan", at best, will be submitted for state testing only in 18 year, although it should have passed it in 16 year.
And to make it completely clear to you how sad everything is, then all Yaseni-M will differ from each other, that is, in fact, each submarine of this project will be the main one, not the serial one. The same "Krasnoyarsk" will differ from "Kazan" ... it, according to the statements, will be even more perfect than the first Yasen-M.

[bk316]

m, according to statements will be even more perfect than the first Ash-M.

Well, stop already, from Rogozin’s statement that each next boat will be more perfect than yours that there will be no series should not be. You rely on this statement?

[NEXUS]

Quote: bk316

You rely on this statement?

No ... this is clearly seen from the fact that the Ash project itself is "raw", and only the blind cannot see it. And therefore, from submarine to submarine, it is being finalized, which clearly indicates that each submarine of this project will in fact be the head one and there is no talk of serial production. From the word ALL.
Perhaps I really hope for this that the Husky will be serial, which means building and commissioning her fleet will be much faster.
Building a submarine, even one as complex as a multipurpose vehicle for 10-20 years, is not normal. For 10 years, aircraft carrier mattresses have been built. Look at the bookmark and delivery of the mattress multipurpose Illinois ... laid in March 11, and surrendered to the fleet in 16 ... that is, 5 years. And here Kazan is being erected for the 8th year, they cannot plan it.
That is, while we are building Kazan alone, the mattresses have time to build two multi-purpose submarines ... somehow.

[bk316]

Ash's project is "raw", and only a blind man does not see it

Will you forgive the submariner?
Do you want me to send you a piece of code, the size in one thousandth documentation on Yasen, in one language and even with tests. And you tell me where it contains errors.

As we all know, we have specialists in football and economics, now also in shipbuilding?

[NEXUS]

Quote: bk316

Do you want me to send you a piece of code, the size of one thousandth of the documentation for Yasen, in one language and even with tests. And you tell me where it contains errors.

Do you say mistakes? And who says mistakes, dear shipbuilder? Only before developing a new submarine, I think it would be clever to ask, for example, suppliers, suppliers, electronics and arsenal developers, but all this is available that you drew on a piece of paper ... they just want Wishlist. At the same time, the sudden termination of cooperation with Ukraine began ... as if they had been sleeping all this time and did not see where everything was going. That’s why we are sitting today without domestic gas turbines for new corvettes, and frigates, which we are building for the time frames for which mattresses aircraft carriers are handed over to the fleet. At the same time, we are selling three new almost ready corvettes of India, apparently because we do not need them.
So do not be respected, then bend your fingers, and talk to me about the documentation. Recently, everything in the military-industrial complex has been going on like a Caucasian captive — there was an opportunity to buy a goat, but there was no desire, there was a desire to buy a house, but there was no opportunity.
Now tell me, dear shipbuilder, why didn’t Pike-B suit you or our Defense Ministry? Or do we have multi-purpose workers in our fleets at least backwards and that’s why we have been building them for 10 years each?

[bk316]

All that you list are errors. I did not ship, so I can not answer you about Pike, ask for MO.
Only I think, even if they answered you, you would not understand anything.
It’s just that all the errors you listed are related (in terms of software) to the architectural, most difficult to determine errors.

And I don’t bend my fingers, it’s you who are oppressing, taking the liberty of making statements about the dampness of projects that you did not even see closely either in paper or in metal.

[NEXUS]

Quote: bk316

It’s just that all the errors you listed are related (in terms of software) to the architectural, most difficult to determine errors.

Come on ... these mistakes are not one dozen years old, dear. Severodvinsk was built for 20 years.

Quote: bk316

And I don’t bend my fingers, it’s you who are oppressing, taking the liberty of making statements about the dampness of projects that you did not even see closely either in paper or in metal.

Just oppress. Believe me, I have several friends of submariners (acting) who will tell you the same thing as me.

[Evgeniy667b]

Virginia, one or two units are commissioned a year. And our pies take a long time to bake. When the "Murey" was built in the 70s, it really was the pace! Now are tears.

[kote119]

she’s not ready, only a solid body was cooked and tested, there’s a dime a dozen before the end of construction

[Reserve buildbat]

The impression is that this "Severodvinsk" constantly goes with a trim on the nose to hide the GAS.

[solovald]

How so? "... The maximum speed is 16 knots above water and 31 knots underwater ..." Does it move twice as fast under water?

[Papazen]

Exactly. The body shape is optimized for submerged operation.

[Berthan]

Well, for modern submarines, this is quite common. Another thing is that the yard is already the 21st century. Cavitation should be applied here, or whatever techno magic, but in my opinion - 60km / h is not enough ...

[kolkulon]

The Chinese promised to disperse to 500km / h, but something topic stalled.

[Glory1974]

in my opinion - 60km / h is not enough ..

But in my opinion it's normal. All the same, they do not go at such speeds. The greater the speed, the greater the detection range.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: glory1974

All the same, they do not go at such speeds.

It depends on the task. When deployed and occupied, positions can 0,8 from the maximum (in peacetime).

Quote: glory1974

The greater the speed, the greater the detection range.

Everything is relative. For the most low-noise speed depends on the immersion depth: the greater the depth, the higher the speed you can have before the signal light in the CPU lights up. And then, you can go under the layer of the jump, and listen to swim up to the PZK. Tactics called.

[Papazen]

The hull was laid down on July 27, 2014, welded in January 2017. Two and a half years on the hull this is quite acceptable, for example ... In Soviet times, it was about the same. For example, B-534 was laid down in February 86, launched in the summer of 89 (2,5 years), in the spring of 91 it passed GOSy. And this is the head 945A with a titanium case, which was cooked in the Lower and dragged to Dvinsk. Now boats for years on completion.
Accordingly, it turns out that the body and large structures are not the main brake in the construction of Ash. The main problems are created by suppliers of systems and systems. It is also possible that there are problems with the adjustment and integration of systems. The main problems are not among shipbuilders in the narrow sense of the word, but among allies and integrators.

[Alexey-74]

Everyone is afraid of our submarine fleet, without exception, the states also acknowledge this - our constant opponents .... I am generally silent for the rest.

[Fortnite]

The crew is 85 people. The armament consists of ten 533-mm torpedo tubes, Granit cruise missiles and anti-submarine missiles. The boat can carry up to 32 P-800 Onyx anti-ship missiles (firing range up to 300 km) or Caliber complex cruise missiles.

And in fact "Granite" is even there?

[Papazen]

Forever Granite confused with Pomegranate.

[kote119]

Yes, and there is no grenade

[Papazen]

Why is that? He starts from the usual 53cm TA.

[kote119]

no, not ordinary, then all diesel engines could be armed

[Papazen]

And what should be unusual there? Do you need something else besides AERVD-100?
Regarding old diesels, there’s just nothing to prepare the data on. The node does not consider this. Since 971 can shoot grenades, then why was this option removed from Ashen? What changed?

[kote119]

KASU is missing for this complex

[Muvka]

NEXUS,
Well, remember this conversation. In a couple of years we will discuss.

[kefan]

Yes, that surface, that submarine fleet, the deadlines for the delivery of ships are very depressing.

[Jack93]

It is a pity, before implementing the shipbuilding program, we did not think though to build 2 new shipyards (
There was a project in Kotlin to build a large shipyard with 2 meter docks and a capacity of up to 300 ships per year - I mean in 20 the transfer of the Admiralty shipyards, + construction for a half billion 2011 meter dry dock and a couple of slipways at the Northern shipyard (right now, it’s kind of started moving there), + in 400-11 they promised to give 13 lyam euros for Yantar - for modernization ... Here, in a compartment with Zvezda and DSME, if they were completed with quite modern Sevmash, the Baltic plant would have had enough capacity to quickly commission new ships .. Well, and finally it was necessary to immediately think about 600 the complete transfer of gas turbine engine production as afterburners and marching to Rybinsk ... Well, as for me, the situation with the Leaders is not clear ... Is it really not easier to build 2008 destroyers for each fleet like Arleigh Burke instead of ships worth 2-2,5 billion bucks 12 cells or the same Chinese type 96-D - a good boat with 052 cells and cost, I think they would pull a billion)

[Jack93]

Quote: Jack93

It is a pity, before implementing the shipbuilding program, we did not think though to build 2 new shipyards (
There was a project in Kotlin to build a large shipyard with 2 meter docks and a capacity of up to 300 ships per year - I mean in 20 the transfer of the Admiralty shipyards, + construction for a half billion 2011 meter dry dock and a couple of slipways at the Northern shipyard (right now, it’s kind of started moving there), + in 400-11 they promised to give 13 lyam euros for Yantar - for modernization ... Here, in a compartment with Zvezda and DSME, if they were completed with quite modern Sevmash, the Baltic plant would have had enough capacity to quickly commission new ships .. Well, and finally it was necessary to immediately think about 600 the complete transfer of gas turbine engine production as afterburners and marching to Rybinsk ... Well, as for me, the situation with the Leaders is not clear ... Is it really not easier to build 2008 destroyers for TF and SF Arleys instead of ships worth 2-2,5 billion bucks A burke of 12 cells or the same Chinese type 96-D is a good boat with 052 cells and cost, I think they would have pulled a billion)

[Fast_mutant]

Quote: Jack93

build a large shipyard with 2 meter docks and a capacity of up to 300 ships per year

I live in Kronstadt, and, to put it mildly, vaguely imagine where you were going to build a dock here 2300 m long. And why so long? We, like, do not build ships of such a length. And it’s not safe. It is almost ALL Kotlin across. Perhaps there were several docks in common. This is welcome. Yes here and so far not one dock available.

[dumkopff]

I also did not immediately understand. Everything is simpler - 2 docks of 300 meters each.

[Fast_mutant]

Well, yes ... and more logical and real.