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Ukrainian media have announced the promotion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Stakhanov

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According to the information sounded in the report of the Ukrainian TV channel TSN, units of the Ukrainian armed forces during Operation Sukhumi advanced towards the city of Stakhanov (the Ukrainian name after decommunization is Kadiyivka), which is controlled by the Luhansk People's Republic.


Ukrainian media have announced the promotion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Stakhanov


Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine consisting of three battalions and Georgian volunteers captured the dominant height in the neutral zone, allegedly under the control of the militia, and advanced 500 meters towards the city. It is reported that the seizure of the neutral zone does not contradict the Minsk agreements. Comments from the administration of the LC on this issue have been received.

Earlier, on January 19, Ukrainian volunteer Yury Mysyagin stated that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were very close to the city of Debaltseve, located on the territory of the Donetsk People's Republic.

It should be noted that the APU in the framework of the current war in the Donbas is characterized by invasions into the neutral zone, presented to the public as successful military operations. For example, in the conditions of the “Debaltsev boiler”, the media actively exaggerated the “Turchinovsky breakthrough” in the area of ​​Mariupol, which in fact was the penetration of troops into the territory unoccupied by the militia. In all such cases, after the militia’s response, the Ukrainian units left the positions they had previously occupied.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 23 January 2017 12: 13
    +4
    Is this a provocation or a real offensive? And is there an order not to respond to provocations? Indeed, in the light of recent events, why should the LDNR forces not act in the same vein? Everyone already understands that the Minsk treaty is stillborn ..
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 23 January 2017 12: 15
      +3
      We are waiting for comments and clarifications from the Lord of Sith - he should be in the subject.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 23 January 2017 12: 24
        +10
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        We are waiting for comments and clarifications from the Lord of Sith - he should be in the subject.

        Colleague Vladyka of the Sith is actually from Donetsk, but I think that they have again occupied some gray zone and trumpeted about the "great change."
        1. cniza
          cniza 23 January 2017 12: 53
          +5
          Quote: 210ox
          Is this a provocation or a real offensive?


          This is the desire to find at least a small motivation for your "army" and no more, if it were a strategic height, then who would have allowed them there.
        2. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 23 January 2017 15: 05
          +2
          Answered below.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 23 January 2017 15: 04
        +12
        They have indeed occupied gray zones for a year and a half, starting in July 2015. But "gray zones" are not inventions of politicians or anyone else, they arise in the course of hostilities. Some zones are 200-300 meters wide between the positions of the DPR and LPR, others are up to 1000-1500 meters. Most often they arise during active hostilities, for example, an open space between heights, where there is simply no opportunity and tactical sense to hold positions. If you take these positions, then the personnel suffers heavy losses from the dominant heights. In the LPR there is a river "Seversky Donets", so the front runs along it and it is also a "gray zone" or "neutral", we have the Kalmius river in the DPR, it stretches to the Sea of ​​Azov, along it there is also a front and a "gray zone" ... But around large cities such as Donetsk, Makeevka, Yasinovataya, Gorlovka or Lugansk, there the "gray zone" is 200-300 meters, this territory between the city and the satellite village, for example: - Donetsk and Maryinka or Lugansk and Stanitsa Luganskaya.

        Thus, the occupation of such "gray zones" is political PR and a race for the ranks and rewards of officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, and the price of this is the lives of Ukrainian soldiers. It would be understandable if the occupation of the "gray zones" secured the unit's flank or improved the positions of the personnel. Tactically, there is no point in sitting in open areas under fire or in lowlands, they do not improve the disposition of the company-battalion, as a result, they suffer heavy losses.
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 January 2017 12: 15
      +9
      Again svidomye uryakaly trumpet about "peremog" ...
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 23 January 2017 12: 22
        +6
        Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, consisting of three battalions and Georgian volunteers, captured the dominant height in the neutral zone, supposedly under the control of the militia, and advanced 500 meters towards the city.

        I really hope that the height is shot by the LDNR art.
        1. cniza
          cniza 23 January 2017 12: 55
          +4
          If not a boiler, then a good target and LDNR will not be killed unnecessarily.
      2. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 23 January 2017 12: 29
        +4
        The media actively exaggerated the "Turchinovsky breakthrough" in the region ...
        Turchinovsky breakthrough ?! laughing that's cool!
    3. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 23 January 2017 12: 24
      +5
      and it will continue until all this "enlightened" world community acts according to the principle here I see, I don't see here, or until the dill is weighed by the horns
      1. Bath
        Bath 23 January 2017 12: 44
        +2
        It should be noted that the Armed Forces in the framework of the current war in the Donbass are characterized by invasions of the neutral zone, presented to the public as successful military operations
        Any advance is success, so they reach the borders with a quiet sideways cancer and reach
  2. svp67
    svp67 23 January 2017 12: 15
    +5
    Ukrainian media have announced the promotion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to Stakhanov
    Yeah, and yet, they forgot to indicate that this is Moscow once again VIOLATED the Minsk agreements ...
  3. Smog
    Smog 23 January 2017 12: 15
    +3
    As Starper used to say, MIKHAN, KORNET- Beat the adversary, beat.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 January 2017 12: 17
      +8
      Quote: Smog
      As Starper used to say, MIKHAN, KORNET- Beat the adversary, beat.

      Kostya, hi! hi drinks I’ll add: beat, watch live and continue to beat!
      1. Skeptic Self-Taught
        Skeptic Self-Taught 23 January 2017 12: 22
        +5
        Smog, bouncyhunter
        Cheerfully got up from the sofa - and beat forward ... And then advise all a lot, but when it comes to "answer" for your words - everyone has a wife, seven in the shops and so on.
        And this, another question: why the LPR and the DPR did not unite.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 23 January 2017 12: 36
          +6
          Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
          Smog, bouncyhunter
          Cheerfully got up from the sofa - and beat forward ... And then advise all a lot, but when it comes to "answer" for your words - everyone has a wife, seven in the shops and so on.
          And this, another question: why the LPR and the DPR did not unite.

          It doesn’t work out - in Belarus, for participating in armed conflicts on the territory of other states, criminal liability arises ... Moreover, regardless of which side he fought on.
          1. Alexrucki
            Alexrucki 23 January 2017 17: 24
            0
            And rightly so, there are enough problems.
          2. kg pv
            kg pv 23 January 2017 18: 32
            +1
            It would be a wish ... wink
            I was driving home from Donetsk and it just so happened that I got neighboring places with a fighter from Belarus (I won't write the call sign, you never know ...) Knowing the situation with the militias from Belarus, I asked him, how are you going? and if they "accept"? Well, in response, the usual - yes, n-th! and go to the edge of Russia. And so))) Although many did not dare to return, who left for Russia and who said that they would remain in Donetsk.
        2. Smog
          Smog 23 January 2017 13: 46
          +3
          Skeptic Self-Taught
          Smog, bouncyhunter
          Cheerfully got up from the sofa - and beat forward ... And then advise all a lot, but how it comes to "answer" for their words - everyone has a wife, seven in the shops and so gave

          Well, I was accused of urapatriotism and sent to war. Oh, how I understand Starper now, oh, how I understand .....
          And this, another question: why the LPR and the DPR did not unite.

          So probably these two
          Smog, bouncyhunter
          to blame
          1. Skeptic Self-Taught
            Skeptic Self-Taught 23 January 2017 14: 28
            +1
            Smog.
            They shoot, there is war.
            And your calls - the impression is that there is nothing more to comment on. A kind of "pike vests".
            "You need to beat the foe" (c).
            Question who will beat? Another question: the news informs you in fits and starts - there is no holistic picture of what is happening, but there is a wild desire to blame all the sins of the republic. You read, probably, the OSCE is silent ... So what are you calling for?
            Or are you now, like Starper, starting to say that these are your Wishlist?
            So I believe that approximately 99,99% of Russia's population also wants the war to end there.
            Here explain to me, in PM, the deep meaning of your comment.
            1. private person
              private person 23 January 2017 14: 33
              0
              By the way, Starper has not been heard for a long time.
        3. Alexrucki
          Alexrucki 23 January 2017 17: 22
          0
          Approved approvals and once again approved
      2. Smog
        Smog 23 January 2017 12: 27
        +3
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Quote: Smog
        As Starper used to say, MIKHAN, KORNET- Beat the adversary, beat.

        Kostya, hi! hi drinks I’ll add: beat, watch live and continue to beat!

        Pasha, I categorically welcome you! soldier I think it’s necessary to beat so that the second time you don’t look alive or not. am
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 23 January 2017 12: 32
          +8
          Quote: Smog
          Pasha, I categorically welcome you! soldier I think it’s necessary to beat so that the second time you don’t look alive or not. am

          It’s like: I hit twice - the first in the face, the second in the lid of the coffin? laughing
    2. 210ox
      210ox 23 January 2017 12: 18
      +2
      He has once again changed the "passport" .. They got him .. But without him, it's boring. wassat
      Quote: Smog
      As Starper used to say, MIKHAN, KORNET- Beat the adversary, beat.
      1. Smog
        Smog 23 January 2017 12: 30
        +3
        He has once again changed his "passport" ..


        And in whom is he now reincarnating? recourse Boring without it, oh boring ..... crying
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 23 January 2017 12: 48
          +4
          Quote: Smog
          And in whom is he now reincarnating?

          So, meet the Liberoid - do not kill right away ... take a look. yes
          Quote: Smog
          Boring without it, oh boring .....
          What to do, and sometimes the "bloody hand of MOSSAD" reaches him. lol So a person has to live another of the "nine lives".
          1. Smog
            Smog 23 January 2017 13: 17
            +3
            Duc, meet Liberoid

            No, we will not kill ...
        2. 210ox
          210ox 23 January 2017 15: 30
          +1
          An interesting controversy was between "The Exorcist of Liberoids" and "Liberoid -" Vitaly .. Of course, his nickname is wrong .. he must be "Liberoid" wassat
          Quote: Smog
          He has once again changed his "passport" ..


          And in whom is he now reincarnating? recourse Boring without it, oh boring ..... crying
  4. Monarchist
    Monarchist 23 January 2017 12: 17
    0
    Something I have a bad feeling about this
  5. Observer2014
    Observer2014 23 January 2017 12: 17
    +2
    Units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine consisting of three battalions and Georgian volunteers captured the dominant height in the neutral zone,
    Arimia LNR will begin to hammer at them now. Those screeching like pigs, in full throat of their media that terrorists have opened fire on them. And let's do the "gray zone" again. In general, the cunning oopost is clear. This is their tactic now. Slow squeezing out. LDNR: The question is how long we are going to endure this tactic, and whether they have prepared another boiler for steaming jellied meat for these pigs.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 23 January 2017 12: 54
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      .And haven't these boilers prepared another cauldron for steaming jelly?

      That is the problem. To organize the boiler, a dill breakthrough is needed, and dill decided to crawl, not break through.
      In order to brew dill in such conditions, either you need your own large-scale offensive operation (there is a big risk to cook yourself) with several breakthroughs, or give dill to crawl only where it is beneficial for you (which is longer) and cook it in place.
      But dill is not [a word forbidden on the VO] and it will be the front line to be leveled, so all this is difficult - you need to catch it somewhere.
      Here politics still gets in the way - don't go there ... it's impossible ... I would, in general, according to my mind, let them go out of the "gray zone" and enter the territory of the republics, so that on this basis, with all the restrictions, they say goodbye and throw them on complete.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 January 2017 12: 20
    0
    In all such cases, after retaliatory actions by the militia, the Ukrainian units left their previously occupied positions.

    While there is no information about the otvetka, but probably these movements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not just leave.
  7. Wolka
    Wolka 23 January 2017 12: 24
    0
    hey, screamers from the OSCE, here’s the tactics of pushing the territory away from dill, and the Minsk agreements nervously smoke in general aside ...
  8. RUSOIVAN
    RUSOIVAN 23 January 2017 13: 02
    0
    Maybe to Stakanov?
  9. 72jora72
    72jora72 23 January 2017 13: 08
    +1
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    Smog, bouncyhunter
    Cheerfully got up from the sofa - and beat forward ... And then advise all a lot, but when it comes to "answer" for your words - everyone has a wife, seven in the shops and so on.
    And this, another question: why the LPR and the DPR did not unite.

    For example, unlike you, in the year 14 I was in Shakhtyorsk and in Donetsk. But you really can only verbiage from the couch ............ so my advice is still valid (you remember him))).
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 23 January 2017 15: 04
      0
      In PM, all questions in PM
  10. Makarov
    Makarov 23 January 2017 13: 28
    0
    When these zones were created, they talked about it ... and this happened ... nothing surprising
    1. Alexrucki
      Alexrucki 23 January 2017 17: 29
      0
      I support, people are always human. I live in Brest. I didn’t see enemies in the south.
  11. NEXUS
    NEXUS 23 January 2017 13: 43
    +2
    I believe that after the first meeting of VVP with Trump, it will be clear what will be done with regard to Hochland. If Trump "merges" Parasha and co, then, I think, the army of the LPR and DPR equipped with Russian weapons will move in the direction of Mariupol, Kharkov and so on ... and then you look and Odessa will rise.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 January 2017 14: 26
      +2
      Do you think Odessa hit-fun will rise?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 January 2017 14: 31
        +2
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Do you think Odessa hit-fun will rise?

        After the House of Trade Unions, Odessa residents are not particularly joking about this topic. And I will tell you that Odessa is more of a Russian city than Ukrainian, both in terms of mentality and the fact that most of the population speaks and thinks in Russian.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 23 January 2017 15: 31
          +1
          I do not deny it. But, in my opinion, conformity and opportunism are characteristic of Odessa residents.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 January 2017 15: 33
            +2
            Quote: Sergej1972
            I do not deny it. But, in my opinion, conformity and opportunism are characteristic of Odessa residents.

            After mobilization, parade fires, burning people, and so on ... here you can’t seal human indignation by any conformism. I'm not talking about the impoverishment of people.
          2. Alexrucki
            Alexrucki 23 January 2017 17: 50
            0
            I can’t say anything bad about the Jews
  12. Siberian
    Siberian 23 January 2017 15: 15
    0
    Shaw, again? belay Back in the "cauldron"? wassat
  13. 72jora72
    72jora72 23 January 2017 15: 18
    0
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    In PM, all questions in PM

    Yes, I need you to communicate with you in PM ....
  14. 72jora72
    72jora72 23 January 2017 15: 25
    +3
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Sergej1972
    Do you think Odessa hit-fun will rise?

    After the House of Trade Unions, Odessa residents are not particularly joking about this topic. And I will tell you that Odessa is more of a Russian city than Ukrainian, both in terms of mentality and the fact that most of the population speaks and thinks in Russian.


    I will tell you more, most of the APU, speaks and thinks in Russian .....
    1. Alexrucki
      Alexrucki 23 January 2017 17: 51
      +1
      Actually it is. I was there
  15. Black Separ
    Black Separ 23 January 2017 19: 01
    +3
    Yes, indeed, the Banderlog occupied the "gray zone" ... Of course, it became closer to Stakhanov, but one hell is still far away. But they came very close to Pervomaisk (our analogue of Stalingrad). Taking into account the fact that Pervomaisk has been fired on since the summer of 14th, the residents of the city have become even more restless .. We have someone to give a warm welcome to the Parashkinites, but ...... This Situyevin pisses me off - we "observe the Minsk agreement "... Oh, sorry Pashka Dremov is no longer with us - the pendels would be weighed at the full rate ... And so - questions like" what the hell ??? " you need to ask Uncle Vova (he strongly recommends to observe Minsk-2) .. All these "confusion and misunderstandings" are angry and enraged. RUNNING !!!! So far, the only consolation is that mines with remote control have been laid and landmarks have been sighted where necessary .. Wait, sir, it is impossible to reach the first star ©
  16. Vitalson
    Vitalson 24 January 2017 14: 18
    0
    Invaded the neutral zone and lost 2 companies killed, 6 tanks, 5 infantry fighting vehicles. Representatives of LDNR did not participate in this battle. laughing
  17. Vitalson
    Vitalson 24 January 2017 14: 25
    0
    The strange name of the operation for the Ukrainian army.
  18. Black Separ
    Black Separ 25 January 2017 01: 07
    0
    Update:
    As in the old bearded anecdote - "Sha! Nobody goes anywhere! Oh my God!" And if in a nutshell, then "gray" - it is again "gray" .. Although it did not become easier for the civilians - the Petliurists fired from 152 suburbs of Stakhanov (Lenin's farm), Irmino (home of the Stakhanov movement, for those who know what is it all about), Kirovsk and, as usual, Kalinovo (not to be confused with Kalinovka north of Debaltsevo). There is destruction of the housing stock and casualties among civilians .. In Irmino there was a direct hit in a private house, but (miracle, not otherwise) the whole big family is alive.
    We work on the serif and suppression of fascist batteries. Eh, I want access to the satellite's "eye" - oh, how could it be useful ..
    I would especially like to note the Georgian mercenaries, whom the Banderlog threw into the "gray" before being briskly pulled from there)