The newest frigate is being built in Turkey

The shipyard in Tuzla (Istanbul Province) hosted the ceremony of laying the newest frigate, called "Istanbul", according to the resource defense-aerospace.com.

The construction of the frigate is carried out within the framework of the MİLGEM (“National Ship”) program adopted in 1996. It is planned that the ship will be transferred to the Turkish Navy through 4.

It was originally intended to create a series of warships, using exclusively domestic developments. It was planned to build a 4 frigate and 8 corvettes.

However, in 2011 g, after the construction of the first Ada-type 2 corvettes, the project was suspended. Its implementation was resumed in 2014, starting the construction of two successive corvettes. Now it became aware of the tab of the frigate. The length of the ship will be 113 m. Completion is scheduled for 2021.

Corvette, built under the project MİLGEM.

“Ship equipment is more expensive than building it.” Therefore, Turkey intends to organize the production of domestic combat systems for the needs of the Navy, and much progress has been made in this direction, ”said Turkish Defense Minister Fikri Ishik. According to him, more than 50 companies and organizations registered in Turkey are involved in the construction and equipment of the ships (65% of defense enterprises).

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[Liberoid-]

Beautiful ship ...! Our Fleet is recovering too slowly, this is a costly affair ...

[Banishing liberoids]

Liberoid - Tuki, Tuki Liberoid! !! So you got me! And if seriously, Vitaly, well, at least something else is being built!

[Liberoid-]

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

And if seriously, Vitaly, well, at least something else is being built!

We are building the submarines rather quickly .... Our insurance!

[rasputin17]

Quote: Liberoid

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

And if seriously, Vitaly, well, at least something else is being built!

We are building the submarines rather quickly .... Our insurance!

But in small quantities, unfortunately! And the operating crew is aging at the same time!

[Talgat]

Quote: rasputin17

Quote: Liberoid

Quote: Exorcist Liberoids

And if seriously, Vitaly, well, at least something else is being built!

We are building the submarines rather quickly .... Our insurance!

But in small quantities, unfortunately! And the operating crew is aging at the same time!

don't worry too much

The Turkish fleet in the World Cup will be sunk in just a minute with bastions and aircraft. all in vain build
In general, I am glad for the leadership of the KZ that, despite all the pan-Turkist curtsies, Iran was still chosen as a strategic partner

[rasputin17]

The Turkish fleet in the World Cup will be sunk in just a minute with bastions and aircraft. all in vain build
Do you think they are so stupid to climb into the Black Sea where every mile is shot and the Bosphorus is controlled not only from the territory of Russia but also from the base in Tartus!

[Yeraz]

Quote: Talgat

In general, I am glad for the leadership of the KZ that, despite all the pan-Turkist curtsies, Iran was still chosen as a strategic partner

This is why Iran became a strategic partner and what is it expressed in: Armenia is a strategic ally in one bloc, and in fact, Armenia means nothing to Kazakhstan.
By what realistic criteria did Iran become a strategic partner of Kazakhstan ??

Quote: Talgat

The Turkish fleet in the World Cup will be sunk in just a minute with bastions and aircraft. all in vain build

But the Turkish ships are crazy to enter the zone of defeat of the Bastions ?? And the Turkish aircraft will just sit while Russian aircraft rises?

[Talgat]

Iran is a real strategic partner for us

2014 had the opening of the railway (I already had posts then - see who can find it) and the presidents of Kazakhstan and Iran personally arrived at the opening of the station - which is very unusual. Statements were also made there about a strategic partnership and an increase in trade by 5 times and so on — all this before Russia headed for allied relations with Iran. For KZ, this is access to the Persian Gulf and another way to the sea. For Iran, this is completely pointless at first glance - but in fact, if the sea is closed, then Iran receives an umbilical cord of food with friendly countries - Kazakhstan, Russia and China - it can go along with food and help and weapons and troops if necessary (which is probably important for Iran)
I can’t immediately find that article like this - but offhand look here are the links that they write at all (for some reason they don’t miss the links - deleted the addresses of the sites - but it’s easy to find by text)
Iran is an important strategic partner for Kazakhstan


Rouhani called Nazarbayev a friend of Iran

Kazakhstan has become a strategic partner of Iran

Kazakhstan will be one of two important strategic partners for Iran - R. Zhaksylykov


Iranian leader sees Kazakhstan as a reliable strategic partner

[Talgat]

Quote: Yeraz

But the Turkish ships are crazy to enter the zone of defeat of the Bastions ?? And the Turkish aircraft will just sit while Russian aircraft rises?

I mean. that in the case of a hypothetical conflict, the Bastions actually shoot most of the World Cup. That is, all ships in this 100% zone will be sunk. Those that are on the far shore and did not enter the affected area are likely to be sunk by aviation - and the opposition of Turkish aviation is unlikely to save them - simply the Russian Federation has a quantitative and also qualitative advantage - if necessary, they can use the Tu 22 with anti-ship missiles
Turkey understands all this and therefore is unlikely to go into conflict. Moreover, now the Black Sea Fleet begins to grow and strengthen.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Liberoid

We are building the submarines rather quickly .... Our insurance!

Yes? Which ones specifically?

[Zibelew]

It is interesting, after the arrival of three new Petrels at the KChF, whether the watchtower Smetlivy of 2020 will be written off before 1969. Or how will the savior Commune of 1915 be exploited? By the way, in Sevastopol there is a tanker Istra of the beginning of 1940 during the Second World War. The Turks most likely do not have such antiques in the Navy.

[stew]

It's good that the Fiolent was cut, otherwise there was a Nazi swastika inside somewhere. And the fleet needs a ship with the name "Mercury", or something similar so that the Turks remember!

[APASUS]

Quote: Zibelew

Sevastopol is the tanker Istra of the beginning of 1940 during the Second World War.

There is such a

[rasputin17]

The Turks most likely do not have such antiques in the Navy.

Perhaps not! But this does not mean that these are bad! A ship, like a machine, can serve for a long time and they don’t need weapons. Their purpose is different. And enemies can be pushed with their appearance!

[Banishing liberoids]

When the ship is built, it will be urgently renamed "Moscow", and then Erdogad will understand that he burned

[Andrey Yuryevich]

[quote = Liberoid Banisher]
Reply Quote Complaint More ...

do you predict the fate of "Kuznetsov"? maybe it's enough to change the names in the passport ...

[Portuguese boat]

Russia urgently needs to finish building the second troika of frigates 11356 and transfer it either to the Black Sea Fleet or to the Baltic Fleet. The clouds are gathering.

[Every]

To do this, urgently need somewhere to get power plants for them. For the project, 22350 seems to be being developed, but for 11356 nothing is heard.
They will not finish building them, unless they buy from the Ukrainians through the Indians or the Chinese. Well, or as an option to capture Nikolaev and Zarya-Mashproekt.

[Portuguese boat]

You can redesign 11356 for other turbines, and you can buy them, for example, in China, since Moscow overslept and did not create new domestic ones in time ... You need to forget about 22350, it will never become a full-fledged frigate, because of defective radars and air defense systems Redoubt.

[Meliodous]

This is all the extra cost. It’s easier to sell these ships, and let the proceeds go for revision 22350 or something else.

[Portuguese boat]

The extra and useless costs are the construction of the obviously unfit 22350, for which more funds were already spent without any benefit than the purchase of a fully equipped and combat-ready destroyer in China would cost.

[venik]

Quote: Portuguese boat

The extra and useless costs are the construction of the obviously unfit 22350, for which more funds were already spent without any benefit than the purchase of a fully equipped and combat-ready destroyer in China would cost.

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First of all! The problem of "Polyment-Reduta", as I understand it, is in the imported element base (more precisely, some of its components). This problem, in principle, is solvable, although the smut at first will be enough. Ultimately, he is building the Almaz-Antey S-300 and S-400! So to find "workarounds - perhaps !!
Secondly! As for the Chinese destroyers - are you really sure that they are as good as the Chinese air defense systems, aircraft and cars ??? Or maybe it's something like "Portuguese ships"? Outside - beautiful but in fact - ......

[Portuguese boat]

In fact, a lot of money was spent on 22350 without any benefit, and the ship itself has been tested for 7 years and it is not yet known how much money and time was spent on useless air defense systems and Redut radars before the 22350 was built. How many years and more money do you want to spend on Redut and is it time for you to start spending your own money on this chimera, and not money from the budget, which is better spent on 11356 with the Shtil air defense system, is it at least more combat-ready than your raw trough 22350 ?! As for the Chinese destroyers, they perfectly shoot down targets in exercises, which your Redoubt could not do ...

[Pontelimon 5230]

How tired of listening to the adherents of the Stouretkin sect, everything Russian is bad, it is necessary to buy Italian, French, Chinese weapons. I read here lamentations of the "liberal patriots" about Bulava and Borei, when there were serious problems with the first, about the PAK FA when there were also problems and deadlines and even about Armatu. Therefore, I can tell you the same as other "mourners", the future will show.
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[Portuguese boat]

Gentlemen, you have a combat-ready frigate 11356, but you do not want to build it. You have a working Shtil air defense system, but you continue to build 22350 with broken radar and Redut air defense systems, spending more money on it than a fully equipped destroyer that could be bought in China ... Turbines for frigates could have been built in Russia for a long time, but until the last day you ordered them in Bandera Ukraine, which since 1994 fought against Russia in Chechnya, and in 2008 fought on the side of Georgia and in the Kremlin it is well known. Do not you think that your actions are wrecking ?!

[Every]

Gentlemen, you have a combat-ready frigate 11356, but you do not want to build it. Do you have a functioning air defense missile system Calm

Maybe he is combat ready now, but in 7-10 years?

but you continue to build 22350 with broken radar and air defense systems Redut


These ships, or rather weapons technology and systems, have affected the coming decades (ship life, on average 30 years)

a fully equipped destroyer that could be bought in China.

Already bought in France.

And it is not a matter of national pride (they say themselves with a mustache). Buying foreign military equipment, the state makes itself dependent on imported components. Everyone has an example of Ukraine before their eyes, they wanted to put the EU, they wanted to - they did not set, and they did not return the money.

[Portuguese boat]

And if the war is in 3 years, and you do not have a single frigate except 11356, which can be serially built today and you refuse to build it ?! Anyone who bought the Mistrals from NATO France needs to hammer a nail in his head, he still has a wooden one ... China is not a NATO member and is not an ally of Japan, which is the most likely enemy of the Russian Federation in the Pacific and constantly demands the Kuril Islands from the Russian Federation. ..Normal people who have brains buy not just foreign equipment, but also a factory for its production and service ... Pay attention to the Spanish, Siat, this is Volkswagen, but Spain has its own complete production ... and I can name many such examples ... For example, a plant in Turkey that builds F-16 aircraft ... 22350 is not an combat-ready trough, on the tests of which money is stolen and laundered, and the very construction of these ineffective ships is sabotage ... And finally point-blank question - How much more time and money do you intend to spend on 22350 and what guarantees will there be a positive result for these works, it has not been there for more than 7 years ?!

[Every]

Yes, with the fact that it is necessary to build a series of frigates 11356, I do not argue, and not 6 units, but at least 8 of 4 for the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet. But it is also impossible to close project 22350. The fact that stealing has long been clear to everyone. One cosmodrome "Vostochny" is worth it, so much money was stolen there that it was possible to build "Vostochny-2" nearby. And this imperfection "Polyment-Redut" must be abandoned. The creators of "TOR-2M" promised to create a ship modification of their air defense system. And I think it will work like the land one.

But there is a healthy "BUT". Namely, it’s not the Defense Ministry’s desire to do this, since the desire of military officials needs to be stimulated, without this they won’t take their finger out of their nose, they’ll poke around further.

Yes, and order a few destroyers from China, it is a good idea. But after the scandal with France, this is unlikely.

[Portuguese boat]

Yes, they would have at least set the Shtil air defense system on these 22350, it hits 50 km at 12 targets at the same time ... For what kind of woods they give the fleet the ineffective air defense systems and Redut radar, they are crazy there, or they want to kill the crews on these troughs by burying and the money spent on these wreck-ships ?!

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Portuguese boat

You can redesign 11356 for other turbines, but you can buy them, for example, in China, since Moscow overslept and did not create timely new domestic ...

The fact of the matter is that it’s impossible - especially since the hulls are ready - it’s easier there

[Portuguese boat]

Not easier, the more large ships in the Russian Federation have been building for so long that opponents of the Russian Federation look at it with a laugh.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Portuguese boat

Not easier, the more large ships in the Russian Federation have been building for so long that opponents of the Russian Federation look at it with a laugh.

And our government, as everyone already understands the fleet, is not needed. What for? On land, they will successfully defend their possessions and investments, and to position the power and flag of Russia in the oceans is not their style. Better tankers to buy in South Korea. There is no modern fleet in Russia, and with this liberal clan, it most likely will not.

[Portuguese boat]

Without a fleet, both Sakhalin, Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands will be merged, and Crimea, too, all the northern islands will be merged ... the army is not enough to protect them.

[burigaz2010]

The whole problem is only in the vast area of ​​our country, too much money is being spent on ground forces! Navy as always in the balance! But there is also the most important strategic missile forces !!! And where to get all the money?

[Portuguese boat]

Introduce a progressive tax and a luxury tax, otherwise all taxes are imposed only on locksmith Uncle Vasya ... In addition, it is time to start executions with confiscation of the property of the family from the embezzlers, then the money will appear in the budget ... And there are nothing to import the gaster into the country, they export it huge money out of it, they sit their own without work .. And I do not need to write that the Russians do not want to work ... Vaughn with Khatkovo drove out all the Gaster and their places were immediately taken by the locals ...

[Sergej1972]

The priorities now are the airborne forces, strategic missile forces and the submarine fleet.

[Berkut24]

"Equipping a ship is more expensive than building it."
Yes that's just the point. Everyone knows how to build a trough. But a balanced filling ... Ukrainians with their frigate on this and stuck. They build a building without even knowing what will be inside. But still to lay cables ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Berkut24

Everyone knows how to build a trough.

Then we wish our shipbuilders success! By the way, how is Ivan Gren doing?

[Berkut24]

She is still living at the plant. they plan to finish sea trials in 17th and transfer them to the fleet by the end of the year. The delay was due to several reasons, but almost all the fault of the MO. Frequent changes in customer desires have led to constant redesign and rework right on the slipway. Moreover, the wishes of the customer varied within the limits "just needed - not needed at all - very much needed". In view of all these satisfaction of desires and reluctances, the case showed negative characteristics in terms of the magnetic field. I don’t know what is going on with the re-laying of the cable line, but they promised to resolve the issue. The project of this BDK is just not indicative, because the customer himself did not know what he wanted and, plus the funding was resumed and then ended again.
By the way, the construction of "Morgunov" is going much faster.

[Mar.Tirah]

So much for the turret !!!! Why is he armed, why doesn’t the author complement it? Still cruise missiles will whist like Chinese, and we will spin like hell. It is hoped that there will be no technological breakthrough in armament

[donavi49]

MK41 under ЕССМ / АСРОК / if they find the money and agree with Trump then for Standard.
8 / 16 inclined PUs for Harpoons.
Super Rapid is the same.
ROME-116 as a complex wandered

They have, if anything, airborne cruise missiles. Now they have adopted the version for 130 miles, they will soon test the version for 270 miles - the prospect of reaching 800 miles in the same size.

[Nevsky_ZU]

We can not do massively ships, we will stamp in Khrushchev anti-ship land-based missiles. Is not the way out? They will not give money, there is not enough power.

[Portuguese boat]

Surely they will put the American RCC Harpoon, this is the main weapon of attack of the Turkish fleet.

[sub307]

"Initially, it was planned to create a series of warships, using exclusively domestic developments. In total, it was planned to build 4 frigates and 8 corvettes."
Something worth clarifying: "The first attempt by Turkey to create a modern warship" on its own. "The quotation marks are not accidental - German developments are widely used in the design of corvettes, and all weapons are represented by American models. Nevertheless, corvettes of this type are built at Istanbul shipyards, more than 50 related Turkish companies are involved in the construction, and all the electronic systems of the ships are integrated into the GENESIS combat information and control system of its own production. "
http://blackseafleet-21.com/news/2-05-2013_vsjo-v
kljucheno-obzor-turetskogo-flot

[Bayonet]

Quote: sub307

German designs are widely used in the design of corvettes, and all weapons are represented by American models.

Why not? After all, Turkey is a member of NATO. In the armies of the Warsaw Pact countries, the equipment was mainly Soviet, ammunition and other things were unified.

[sub307]

And did someone say - "no", it cannot be. It's just that in the article, the fact of using German developments is overlooked, and the emphasis is on independent "creativity" And the opinion, in fact, is not mine, the link is given.

[Bayonet]

Quote: sub307

And the opinion, in fact, is not mine, the link is given.

Yes, I actually expressed my thought.

[grandfather_Kostya]

Not a single missile cell is visible in the picture. Is there really only a gun and small-caliber air defense?

[donavi49]

So it’s a corvette!

The main feature is Smart-S (one of the best radars in this size) + Ares.

The rest is purely corvette:
SuperRapid in the new cap 76mm
8 Harpoon
ROME-116 - to fight back
MK-32 for self-defense and PLO
hangar patrol / anti-submarine helicopter

They only begin to build a frigate.

[bald]

Yes, everything would be fine. Workshop, equipment. And why are the flags of their country in the workshop? And we had funny posters of Stalin, in difficult times. Drawing or echoes of the lovers of the brilliant (our friendly states also have them - lovers of the brilliant). Erdogan, what raises a holy war? A trifle, of course, but in psychology they specifically discovered themselves. It should be more modest.