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Potential presidential candidate of France proposed to abandon NATO

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The leader of the Ecological Party, Francois de Rouge, who fights for the title of presidential candidate of France from the alliance of socialists, made a statement about the loss of the relevance of NATO to the interests of the country. According to de Ryuzhi, France needs to think about changing the format of the organization, politically defending the interests of the state and its people.


"Candidate candidates" during the election debates in the camp of the French socialists, said that in place of NATO "must come European military alliance." According to him, it is necessary to go to exactly this format, given that "on the one hand - Russia and Vladimir Putin, on the other - America and Donald Trump."

From the statement of Francois de Ryuzhi:
I propose replacing NATO with a European military alliance, since NATO expects disintegration in any case. This is actually stated by Donald Trump. So it turns out that Trump has to be taken seriously today.


Does de Ryuzhi need to be taken seriously - one question, and the second question is when did Trump talk about the disintegration of NATO? According to Trump, who is now officially taking office as the American president, NATO is an outdated organization, about the revision of the format of which it is necessary to have a conversation. Or is format revision considered decay? In addition, Trump said it was necessary to oblige NATO members to "pay the real price for their security."

Potential presidential candidate of France proposed to abandon NATO


It should be noted that Francois de Rouge today is the deputy chairman of the French National Assembly. Among the socialists, of all the candidates, the highest ratings are for Manuel Waltz, who plans to be the single candidate from the mentioned forces in the upcoming presidential elections in France.
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  1. Orel
    Orel 20 January 2017 06: 47
    +1
    I propose replacing NATO with a European military alliance


    Horseradish radish is not sweeter ... This is me for "Hurray-patriots" who sleeps and sees "the collapse of NATO." There will be no NATO - there will be something else instead of it, and until Russia is part of this military bloc - we will always write here that they threaten us.
    1. Shepard
      Shepard 20 January 2017 06: 56
      +4
      Why should Russia be part of an alliance against Russia and the meaning of which is opposition to Russia
      1. Orel
        Orel 20 January 2017 08: 08
        0
        Quote: Shepard
        Why should Russia be part of an alliance against Russia and the meaning of which is opposition to Russia


        Even if the alliance is not directed against Russia, it will be perceived with us as a threat. Without the image of the enemy, it will be difficult to distract people from problems.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 20 January 2017 09: 50
          +1
          Shepard
          Why should Russia be part of an alliance against Russia and the meaning of which is opposition to Russia

          And then, apparently, the liberal democrat Orel is secretly dreaming about it! Namely, so that Russia falls under foreign external control, i.e. surrendered to the colonial invaders!
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 20 January 2017 07: 00
      +2
      Francois de Rouge, leader of the Ecological Party, fighting for the title of French presidential candidate from the Alliance of Socialists
      Ryuzhi-no one and call-no ... who cares about his opinion? we have all sorts of talk shows, also all sorts of things ...
    3. stas
      stas 21 January 2017 21: 28
      0
      Eagle, well, you obviously do not pull on the Eagle.
      It is impossible to create a European military bloc without Russia.
      And nobody will create the 4 German Reich, here England is the first to stand on its hind legs.
  2. Wolka
    Wolka 20 January 2017 07: 06
    +3
    anyway, France will no longer have a second De Gaulle, and it will never be the first, even the second in Europe ...
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 January 2017 09: 34
      +5
      Quote: Volka
      anyway, France will no longer have a second De Gaulle

      But France has a Marine, which is Le Pen ... It is, however, the second, after the pope - a cougular. But thoughts about the revival of the former glory of the 5-th republic firmly sit in its neat head.
      Quote: Volka
      she will never be the first, even the second in Europe ...
      And where did you get that? France, at the very least, a nuclear power after all. It is quite competitive and in no way inferior to Germany in armaments, closes the top six in terms of world GDP ... Britain, like a fish sticking, will remain with the states.
      So, together with Germany, they may well stir up Euro-NATO. What we repeatedly told them about: It’s time to live our minds, and not to drag chestnuts out of the fire for Uncle Sam and practice anti-Russian sanctions at the direction of the Puddle.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 20 January 2017 09: 41
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        .Britain, like a sticking fish, will remain with the states.

        I would like to note that the brits are not only islands, but also countries of the "commonwealth", the largest of which are Australia and Canada, incl. Britain can be viewed as a self-sufficient country, and in terms of the potential of the entire community, they are "cool".
  3. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 20 January 2017 07: 07
    +1
    What can I say, I advise the French to learn Russian, someday it will come in handy for them, especially words like "surrender", "don't shoot", and we will never again! am
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 20 January 2017 07: 55
      +5
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      What can I say, I advise the French to learn Russian, someday it will come in handy for them, especially words like "surrender", "don't shoot", and we will never again! am

      once they learn Arabic ....
  4. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 20 January 2017 07: 17
    +1
    And what else to expect from the leftist, only attacks on military imperialism.
    The fact that he offers the absurdity is complete, but with his% of votes this is even welcome.
  5. Altona
    Altona 20 January 2017 07: 52
    +1
    More like a PR move to attract an anti-American or anti-globalist electorate. Before the election, everyone promises one thing, after the election they do the exact opposite.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 20 January 2017 08: 34
      0
      Quote: Altona
      More like a PR move


      PR-move with a change of sign. Well there will be no NATO, there will be EVERYTHING (thief. Forces of Europe) and what will change from this? The functions of these ALL will remain the same as those of NATO. Well, the management staff may be reduced, but the tasks and focus will not change. However, this is not our hemorrhoids.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 20 January 2017 09: 41
        +2
        Quote: Lelek
        However, this is not our hemorrhoids.

        This is our hemorrhagic!
        For EVERYONE will not conduct military training against the United States, but against the terrible Putin.
        One plus: the States will not be able to directly steer their contingents in the military structure of the bloc. And that means they will not be able to drag frogs into the next military adventure on the lasso.
        Then, without the States, NATo will be "not THAT". bully
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 20 January 2017 08: 03
    +2
    Come on! it's just that there is no more faith in the US, and why pay to NATO, consider the US, if you can spend on your own? They think it will be cheaper. hence the talk "running from NATO"
  7. Masya masya
    Masya masya 20 January 2017 08: 19
    +11
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Expelling Liberoids
    What can I say, I advise the French to learn Russian, someday it will come in handy for them, especially words like "surrender", "don't shoot", and we will never again! am

    once they learn Arabic ....

    France.
    The small town of Avignon.

    Traditionally, fresh rolls (baguettes) are delivered to the local store early in the morning. Warm, delicious, aromatic. People (French) are waiting in line at the checkout counter. They wait 10 to 15 minutes.

    The line is large, but civilized, not noisy. Freshly baked and brought baguettes are in three baskets, like pencils in a glass. It may not be enough for everyone. And then Evil appears: five noisy bearded Arabs enter the store. They pick up baguettes from baskets. Each as much as fits in your hands. The baskets are empty.

    Loud Arabs go to the end of the line (pay). The line slowly escorts their eyes. Painful silence hangs. The French understand that they are standing in the queue useless: the bread is over thanks to the Arabs is over. But they are silently tolerant. The atmosphere is electrified. And suddenly, in grave silence, a phrase in an unknown language hoarsely and threateningly sounds in an unknown language: "What is this for ... ouin ?!"

    Two gloomy types slowly emerge from the middle of the line. So the second “Evil” appears. The second "evil" silently goes to the end of the line to the first "evil". The line is shrinking. Guys approach the first two Arabs, slowly and inevitably take everything from them! ... everything!!! baguettes and turn back. The queue is in a coma.

    And then what happens breaks the French brain completely. On the way back, the guys in turn give each Frenchman a loaf in one hand. And judging by their look, to refuse these baguettes will not work for anyone.

    Then the guys again return to the Arabs, take the baguettes from the next, and so on until all the French in the queue have a baguette in their hands. After that, each of the guys takes one loaf for himself, and returns the rest to the Arabs ... and stand in line.

    All. The second "evil" defeated the first "evil." The queue is in shock. In silence the thoughts of the French are heard. “These are Russians!” “Russians can not only take bread by force, but also make them eat ?!” “If the Russians can arrange this in line with their bare hands in peacetime, what can they do with a Kalashnikov, tank or submarine during the war? !!!” lol
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 20 January 2017 09: 50
      +1
      Quote: Masya Masya
      “If the Russians can do this in line with their bare hands in peacetime, what can they do with a Kalashnikov, tank or submarine during the war? !!!”

      What can Russians with AKM do - let them ask the Hans, Wehrmacht veterans, those who are still alive!
      And then a social survey showed that the treasured French youth believes that overseas Yankees defeated fascism!
      Soon, the japanes will begin to believe that the Russians, and not the world-wide seeders of democracy, dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
      1. Ryzhiy A.P.
        Ryzhiy A.P. 20 January 2017 11: 25
        +1
        So the Yakuza think so! And Europe (especially not with a capital letter) would be worth kneeling and sucking forgiveness from RUSSIA. And not with the hope of looking at the Sha
  8. weksha50
    weksha50 20 January 2017 10: 03
    0
    "In addition, Trump said that it is necessary to oblige NATO members to" pay the real price for their security. ""...

    Hmm ... the European army-coalition will cost no less, if not more ...
    But Russia doesn’t care that NATO is against it, that the army of the European Alliance ... The participants are the same ...
  9. Rom14
    Rom14 20 January 2017 10: 25
    0
    clever, understands - where there is NAT, there is the first guarantee there .. Our time to land our land in general from the bases of terrorists and destroy the last ones.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 January 2017 11: 16
    0
    This is me for "Hurray-patriots",

    Listen, you already got your chant. At least turn to history - who was the first and for what reason voiced this statement. Orel, but not the one that flies.
  11. viktor.
    viktor. 20 January 2017 11: 58
    0
    Silly laughing
  12. koshmarik
    koshmarik 20 January 2017 12: 01
    +2
    The idea of ​​dissolution of NATO is literally in the air. What surprises me is different. - the EU lived calmly, but no, its leaders are obsessed with megalomania and blinded by hatred towards us, without really calculating the consequences, started a mess with Russia and brewed porridge in Ukraine, and now, as it turned out, they’re very hot for them brew. The law is not written to fools.
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 20 January 2017 12: 50
      0
      Right TO THE POINT !!
  13. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 21 January 2017 15: 54
    0
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    So, together with Germany, they may well stir up Euro-NATO. What we repeatedly told them about: It’s time to live our minds, and not to drag chestnuts out of the fire for Uncle Sam and practice anti-Russian sanctions at the direction of the Puddle.

    They just carry chestnuts from the USA. And they exist at their expense. Events in Libya showed it 100%. The bombing started, and the ammunition ended. So they went to Uncle Sam. Give Christ for the sake of it. It was convenient until Trump did not warn about the closure of the shop. So this is a pre-election PR, no more.
  14. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 21 January 2017 20: 25
    0
    Quote: Orel
    I propose replacing NATO with a European military alliance


    Horseradish radish is not sweeter ... This is me for "Hurray-patriots" who sleeps and sees "the collapse of NATO." There will be no NATO - there will be something else instead of it, and until Russia is part of this military bloc - we will always write here that they threaten us.

    Russia doesn’t need to be part of this military bloc. Russia, in terms of power and strength, is like this whole military bloc. Russia just needs to recover quietly, peacefully, calmly, without wars and conquests, without aggression from the Russian Orthodox, Orthodox Russia the size of the USSR, and that’s all. So that they themselves, voluntarily and of their own free will, return back to Russia, become part of Russia.
    Why should Russia join NATO ??? Russia doesn’t attack anyone, doesn’t capture anyone. Russia is right-winged, Russian Orthodox are peaceful, good, kind, strong, beautiful
    A powerful, smart country. The doctrine of Russia is defense and defense, not aggression and attack. Why should Russia send its soldiers to die in hot spots because of the interests of others? Russia-stands at its frontiers, protects its borders. Here. Protects the CSTO members. And the CSTO-you need to be part of Russia-to become strong Russia.
    Here.And you don’t need to enter NATO-Russia. You don’t need Russians, Russia-to be cannon fodder and fight for the USA or for NATO-for their interests. Outside Russia. And to ruin-Russian boys for foreign countries.
    What for? There is no point in Russia joining NATO.
    But if NATO attacks Russia, it’s possible that Russia will be incorporated into Russia when it defends. These will be the nearby territories of NATO-Europe. The same territories that cannot be entered due to the long distance and lack of time ( time will go by seconds, minutes — that is, there will be no time for Russians to bring them into Russia, for example, the USA) —if they attack, they will simply be destroyed by Russia. That's all.
    But NATO is not necessary. Let NATO be part of Russia tongue