Arrow-3 Missile Defense System is on duty in Israel

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The Israeli Defense Ministry announced the assignment of the initial combat readiness status to the new Arrow-3 missile defense system, the resource defensenews.com reported.





It is noted that Arrow-3 significantly exceeds its predecessor in its capabilities. The system is a joint US-Israeli development. On the American side, Boeing Corporation became the contractor, and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) on the Israeli side.

“The main difference between the Arrow-3 and previous models (Arrow-2 and Arrow-1) is the warhead, which hits targets with a kinetic strike. According to the developers, Arrow-3 will be able to intercept such ballistic missiles as Iranian Shihab, Syrian Scud and Lebanese Fatah-110 at trans-altitude heights. The missiles will be able to destroy targets at altitudes up to 100 km, which is considered to be the boundary of the earth’s atmosphere and space (Arrow-2 rockets rose to altitudes up to 50 km) ”, - says the publication.

The development of Arrow-3 began in 2009. The first test was carried out at the end of 2015, and the final testing was performed in 2016. Both test series were considered successful.

Israel considers its missile defense system one of the most effective in the world, capable of destroying up to 100% of enemy missiles.

“The country's defense belt consists of 3-x echelons of missile defense (short, medium and long range), each of which partially covers the area of ​​responsibility of other systems. The Arrow-3 missile defense complexes form a long-range echelon and will gradually replace the Arrow-2 system in service with the Israeli Air Force, ”the newspaper writes.
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  1. 0
    19 January 2017 17: 17
    They are afraid and not in vain .... I wonder how much such a miracle costs?
    1. +13
      19 January 2017 17: 25
      2 lemons of money for 1 rocket. Wunderwaffle and sawbubble. Either the S-400 business ...
      1. +17
        19 January 2017 17: 35
        Quote: meshorer
        C-400 case ...

        You are right: our S-400 will close the entire territory of your Israel, and it will remain for its neighbors. smile
        1. +5
          19 January 2017 17: 56
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          You are right: our S-400 will close the entire territory of your Israel, and also the neighbors will have to

          "... Any" whim "for yours money..."
          lol
          1. +2
            19 January 2017 17: 58
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            "...Every whim for your money..."

            Here at such a price: 2 lemon money for 1 rocket. laughing
        2. +1
          19 January 2017 19: 49
          He jokes ... And you, yes, right ..
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: meshorer
          C-400 case ...

          You are right: our S-400 will close the entire territory of your Israel, and it will remain for its neighbors. smile
      2. +7
        19 January 2017 21: 05
        Quote: STARPER
        .Interesting and how much is such a miracle?


        Quote: meshorer
        2 lemon money for 1 rocket.

        each interceptor COST Israel about $ 3 million (must be understood in + "about")
        Including US sponsorship (60-80%):
        REAL COST OF INTERCEPTOR = 4-6 000 000 $ / piece.
        What is comparable with the GBI interceptor and RIM-161C (SM-3 Block IB)

        The United States and Israel signed a "Memorandum of Understanding" on May 6, 1986, which sets out an agreement to co-finance and produce the Arrow program.
        http://www.policyalmanac.org/world/archive/crs_is
        raeli-us_relations.shtml

        The cost of the program was very high: Start-up expenses exceeded $ 1,6 billion

        + $ 2,4 billion was invested in the system between 1989 and 2007 ...
        58-80% is funding from the United States ("chickens do not peck money" - they just PRINT them).

        https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

        here on $ 38Billionov money signed for Israel Aid Deal Is Political Boon Benjamin Netanyahu
        + Barack Obama

        ===============
        But the good news about Israel:
        The Pentagon and Lockheed Martin will announce the purchase of 90 F-35 fighters by the end of January, the deal is worth $ 9 billion, Reuters writes. The price of the aircraft is close to falling below the mark of $ 100 million / piece.
        Not a single country (Norgi, Angles, Australopithecus and others like them) = not to see such a price as your ears


        Quote: meshorer
        C-400 case ...

        Unfortunately not yet.
        there is no kinetic interceptor, according to rumors, missiles cost from $ 0,9 to $ 2,6 million (depending on the version of the missiles) / piece.
        + logistics (heavy missiles)
        ==================
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      4. +5
        19 January 2017 22: 39
        Quote: meshorer
        C-400 case ...

        The article talks about missile defense, but is the S-400 air defense or am I wrong? And if it’s right, then these are slightly different things ... According to the ABM treaty with the United States, each of the parties had 100 missiles, all 100 missiles in the USSR were concentrated around Moscow. These are 51T6 long-range atmospheric missiles, two-stage combined, 45 tons, a working range of 350 km, a maximum of 600 km, a nuclear warhead, and a strike zone in height of 70 to 670 km (currently removed from service and replaced with a new one). Something like that...
        1. +2
          20 January 2017 02: 11
          "it is said about missile defense, and is the S-400 air defense or am I wrong?" /////

          This is a question of questions. That the S-400 is good air defense (against the 4th generation aviation at least) is undeniable. But is it a missile defense - a mystery ...
          1. +1
            20 January 2017 10: 58
            Quote: voyaka uh
            But is it a missile defense - a mystery ...

            the manufacturer says yes:

            http://raspletin.com/zrs-s-400-triumf
            rockets are striking, then missile defense.
            We simply did not attack Iraq, and he did not shoot "Scuds" at our "friends" - therefore, "? Questions"

            In any case, these target targets:
            struck with probability declared by the manufacturer

            M-100B (Kaban) / 96M6M: altitude 90-100km = reproduces a high-speed, maneuverable missile with a ballistic trajectory with an effective dispersion area, depending on the surveillance sector and wavelength of the centimeter range radar, from 0,015 to 1,0 m.
            And it strikes (the last interception at an altitude of 16 km)
            Films and reports, as is customary with us, we can see in 10 years ...

            Quote: voyaka uh
            против 4th generation aviation at least

            No need to be so categorical.
            1. In life, the S-400 did not hit either the 4th or the 3rd, so that you can safely declare no Moget
            2. And just in case, and the 5th can, with a good share of probability.
            When I was mine, the 5th imitators were amazed at the training ground. I think it’s not worse.
            And so we are waiting for a full-fledged IOS-I, II, III- and sixth generation with great respect to provide a place for the fall of debris
    2. +3
      19 January 2017 17: 47
      Quote: STARPER
      I wonder how much such a miracle costs.

      Probably very expensive, the price is top-notch, but the fact that the complex was developed and manufactured in Israel is priceless. Let it also be with the help of foreign colleagues (I probably plowed it for free, I'm joking bully ). However, the Boeing company is not one of those that is missing out on profits. But even if so --- the United States benefits from a strong bridgehead on the Sinai Canal. For this communication, a big and terrible war could break out in the future.
      1. +3
        19 January 2017 18: 19
        In the future, a big and terrible war may break out for this communication.

        But did it end? She just went to sleep! hi
        And a splinter sits on the northern sea route!
        1. +2
          19 January 2017 19: 17
          Quote: rasputin17
          And a splinter sits on the northern sea route!

          But the truth is, I look now this topic has suddenly stopped in the media ... And there the work is in full swing and quiet!
          1. +5
            19 January 2017 21: 03
            Besides the path itself, 20% of the world's hydrocarbon reserves are concentrated, according to experts, and this is only according to the existing geological exploration! And from this pie there are many who want to tear a piece even from those who have no access to these territories! And then I feel like a liverman that Trump will play a role in these events and is not very friendly for Russia! Believe me, this sheep will still show its bestial grin! Our problem is that we are trying to make friends wherever we smile! But at the same time, we forget the old saying: If you licked your ass, do not relax, maybe this is grease !! hi
    3. +3
      20 January 2017 05: 45
      Quote: STARPER
      I wonder how much such a miracle costs.

      Vital hi . In good families it is not necessary to count other people's money stop . Especially if you don’t have your own request .
  2. +16
    19 January 2017 17: 17
    Arrow-3 missile defense system is not on duty in Israel
    Dear Colleagues, please do not offend our Israeli colleagues, let the system all the same step on duty. hi
    1. +6
      19 January 2017 17: 37
      Quote: 79807420129
      Arrow-3 missile defense system is not on duty in Israel
      Dear Colleagues, please do not offend our Israeli colleagues, let the system all the same step on duty. hi

      Nobody offends them ... It's just that they have become nervous lately! That's right, you need to defend yourself and spare no money .. It is not in their rules "pride and blood" does not allow .. bully
      1. 0
        19 January 2017 18: 27
        Quote: STARPER
        Everything is correct, you need to defend yourself and spare no money.

        So they do not spare them! What is a lobby? This is a negotiating Jew! But let’s find out whose lobbyist, American or Israeli.
      2. +4
        19 January 2017 18: 28
        In fairness, one small remark: - And with whom is there an agreement? And on what account do you agree?
        Israel will not change its policies and change its interests since they are even higher than international legal norms that it ignores as well as the UN organization itself after the adoption of a resolution on the occupied territories and their illegal development.
        And the Arab world, against the backdrop of these events, does not want to make humiliating concessions for itself, realizing that if they bend right now they will bend all the time! hi
        1. +2
          19 January 2017 19: 58
          Quote: rasputin17
          And the Arab world, against the backdrop of these events, does not want to make humiliating concessions for itself, realizing that if they bend right now they will bend all the time!

          Yes, the Arab world has been bent more than once and is filled with blood (robbing godlessly) ..Here Russia harnessed, realizing that we won’t get any benefits there ... But we have such a nature! We’re going to you (as the song says))) ... And after all, get yours and no one will interfere with us, even Israel (with its expensive systems and the USA with the AUG armada) It’s a shame, gentlemen, to protect such expensive weapons ... You are just subconsciously afraid for what you did! You have the right to defense, no one argues .. hi And yet, fear blows from you ... I can smell it! soldier
          1. +1
            19 January 2017 21: 12
            Nobody will go to direct military aggression against Russia! There are no suicides! But attempts to drag Russia into all kinds of swarms and rotten bazaar stations will continue to exhaust its resources and at the same time raise the degree of Russophobia among the world community and pouring mud from the pages of world media! The whole problem is that STRONG RUSSIA no one needs! And although Trump is now singing tomorrow, he will bury the chain dog of democracy! Already, his rhetoric has already begun to change, and tomorrow after taking office, he will give up all that has been said and remove this mask and take off his entire pack !!! hi
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          1. +2
            19 January 2017 21: 35
            This is the first war in which the Arabs will definitely win. laughing


            HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!! laughing Bazaar NO !!!!
            Like mazgov sometimes !! I do not feel love for Jews, but sometimes I can not understand the frankly stupid tricks of the Arabs! Well, by the time the stats had recently arrived on the second day, a teenager threw a stone at Israeli armed soldiers! belay Well, judge for yourself without emotion is this normal ??? Common sense tells you no! This is at the level of primacy from the zoo! So, thanks to such thinking, they will continue to bend! Since the Arab world does not have a common idea, there is only civil strife on religious grounds! The eternal question is who is more faithful Sunita or Shiites !! And from the side, the same Jews will warm up this centuries-old conflict by pushing their foreheads and finish off the rest! And all that remains for them is to bombard Israel with scraps of sewer pipes, such as cool rockets, weapons of retaliation and throw stones and sticks at well-armed, equipped Israeli soldiers !! hi
  3. 0
    19 January 2017 17: 18
    Are there any specialists who can decrypt TTX into a language that most people understand?
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    2. +2
      19 January 2017 21: 33
      Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
      Are there any specialists who can decrypt TTX into a language that most people understand?

      excuse me, but WHAT to "decipher"?
      Where in the article "TTX"? What are you talking about? You ask about the performance characteristics of Chuvakin ...

      Well, if interested


      Joined 16 on experimental combat duty (+/-) on January 2017
      US sponsorship for all "shooters" over the years:

      1: IAI Brochure
      http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/FILES/7/38867.pd
      f
      2. Arrow 3 interceptor capable of exo-atmospheric intercepts at ranges up to 2400 km
      3. The Arrow 3 two-stage missile capable of intercepting a maneuvering target in an exo-atmospheric area can be used as an anti-satellite weapon.
      4. Arrow 3 was developed by Israel Aerospace Industries and Boeing. On the face, as they say BIGEST VIOLATION (see paragraph 2) of the Missile Technology Control Mode (CRMT)
      5. Judging by the item 4 Arrow3, according to the mass-dimensional ha-kam
      Boeing COTS

      without first stage ATK GEM-40VN (ATK Thiolol's)

      , based on Boeing COTS second stage with Pratt & Whitney remote control and modified nozzle and enlarged third stage with Pratt & Whitney or ATK Thiolol's remote control
      respectively
      64-kg Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle (EKV) - 30% = 45 kg

      Read more...
      “Arrow Weapon System (AWS)"
  4. 0
    19 January 2017 17: 18
    100 km This is already serious.
    It is a pity there is no other characteristic of a new complex.
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      1. 0
        19 January 2017 20: 09
        Quote: Asadullah
        And do not need other characteristics

        If this is for you - "" The main difference between the Arrow-3 and the previous models (Arrow-2 and Arrow-1) is the kinetic strike warhead. " it says nothing about your problems.
    2. +3
      19 January 2017 21: 15
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      100 km This is already serious.
      It is a pity there is no other characteristic of a new complex.

      TTX missile naturally will not find.

      The length of the rocket is 7m, diameter 800mm, the height of the defeat is 100km.
      The Arrow-3 complex includes an advanced Super Green Pine radar (developed by Elta Electronic Industries) with an active phased antenna array. This radar significantly increased the likelihood of early detection and destruction of enemy missiles. The system is also interfaced with the AN / TPY-2 radar operating in the X-band (located in southern Israel).

      http://eizvestia.com/armiya/full/144-protivoraket
      nyj-kompleks-arrow-3-izrail-ssha
      1. +4
        19 January 2017 21: 18

        The cost of Arrow-3 is about 2-3 million dollars, and the entire program of development and delivery of weapons Arrow 3 - 700-800 million dollars. And although the Arrow-3 complex is being developed for Israeli security, there is information about the possible sale of the system to foreign customers.
  5. +6
    19 January 2017 17: 24
    Good weapons, wild predators all around need protection from them.
    But offensive weapons are also needed so that a retaliatory strike can be delivered anywhere in the world.
    1. +5
      19 January 2017 17: 36
      Quote: Rabinovich
      But offensive weapons are also needed so that a retaliatory strike can be delivered anywhere in the world.

      um, I think it will be too much. Why Israel missiles flying for example to Brazil or to other countries in that continent. It is necessary to have something that reaches the current and possible opponents.
    2. +10
      19 January 2017 17: 38
      Quote: Rabinovich
      But offensive weapons are also needed so that a retaliatory strike can be delivered anywhere in the world.

      Is this about a blow to Washington? belay Not well, you are bloodthirsty. laughing
    3. +9
      19 January 2017 17: 38
      Quote: Rabinovich
      But offensive weapons are also needed.

      Israel has enough offensive weapons, there is even nuclear. But the possibilities with impunity to bomb and fire at neighbors are still few. Putting Arrow-3 and deliveries of F-35 will significantly increase the ability of the Israeli military to strike with impunity in the guise of fighting terrorism. .
      1. +8
        19 January 2017 17: 50
        All Israel’s attacks on its neighbors are just for the cause - that is, for terror and aggression against Israel.
        1. +9
          19 January 2017 18: 04
          All Israel’s attacks on its neighbors are just for the cause - that is, for terror and aggression against Israel.


          What about the destruction of Iranian nuclear scientists?
          1. +5
            19 January 2017 18: 07
            Quote: Asadullah
            What about the destruction of Iranian nuclear scientists?

            Was it Israel?
            The killers didn’t seem to be caught and didn’t wave their flags during the murder. wink
            1. +4
              19 January 2017 18: 21
              Was it Israel?
              Killers don't seem to be caught and did not wave flags during the kill


              Well, we do not speak in court .... the answer was for some reason to the Qatari heroes of the cloak and dagger. After all, they, too, as if to Israel, no relation? wink I can only state that this is what caused the sour reaction of the political elite in the world. It seems like Iran, Qatar, CA, their own business, and suddenly a cold wave across Israel ..... maybe this, or maybe something else has worked, but this kind of practice has stopped.
        2. +3
          19 January 2017 20: 54
          Very interesting. Was the seizure of Jerusalem by "civilians of Israel" not an aggression?
          Or are the Golan Heights their capture?
          Those. translated into normal language: "when Israel seizes ALIEN'S territories, it is defense, but when they try to recapture these territories, it is aggression." Nicely. Only considering that a third of the territory is covered from the sea by battleship artillery fire, it is overly arrogant ...
          The Steel Dome shells don't care.
          1. +6
            19 January 2017 22: 17
            Very interesting. Was the seizure of Jerusalem by "civilians of Israel" not an aggression?
            Or are the Golan Heights their capture?

            Aggression? Very interesting Kaliningrad is also aggression? Do you agree so that Kaliningrad is not Russia wink
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              1. +8
                19 January 2017 23: 30
                Quote: SergeBS
                Kaliningrad after the Second World War became Russian

                Exactly, and Jerusalem and the Golan after the Six Day War, do you feel the resemblance?
                The boundaries were approved.

                The borders were recognized by the international community, you want to say that it’s all true. The truth has recently been a precedent with one large country and one small peninsula and the world community is still outraged, but I think a large country continues to lay down on this community with a device.
                Now, returning to the results of the Six Day War, I think you understand the opinion of Israel and most Israelis regarding Jerusalem and the Golan. And let the world community resent their work.
                hi
                1. +2
                  20 January 2017 05: 50
                  I do not quite agree with the meaning of the post, but for the cultural answer to the hammam, I plus
                2. MMX
                  +1
                  20 January 2017 06: 36
                  Quote: Hello
                  Quote: SergeBS
                  Kaliningrad after the Second World War became Russian

                  Exactly, and Jerusalem and the Golan after the Six Day War, do you feel the resemblance?


                  There is no similarity. The borders between the USSR and Germany after the Second World War were determined by the agreement on the borders between the countries and recognized internationally.
                  Show your agreement with Syria on the borders and the UN act recognizing the Golan as the territory of Israel.

                  Quote: Hello

                  The borders were recognized by the international community, you want to say that it’s all true. The truth has recently been a precedent with one large country and one small peninsula and the world community is still outraged, but I think a large country continues to lay down on this community with a device.
                  Now, returning to the results of the Six Day War, I think you understand the opinion of Israel and most Israelis regarding Jerusalem and the Golan. And let the world community resent their work.
                  hi


                  And it would seem, where does Kaliningrad ...
                3. 0
                  20 January 2017 18: 43
                  Quote: Hello
                  True, there has recently been a precedent with one large country and one small peninsula, and the world community is still outraged

                  Uh-huh. And that the peninsula got away from the putschists (let's call a spade a spade) as a result of a PEACEFUL referendum, and not like Kosovo was derailed by bombs - "the world community modestly forgets." Especially considering that the United States is ruled by the Anglo-Saxon "world elite" by this "world community." What will be given in Washington will be crowned in "independent" Europe. You can also recall the list (more than 20 points) of the US breaking into other countries, but "for some reason" this "world community" was silent. Why would you? am
                  And "for a snack": what happened before - the seizure of Jerusalem by the commandos or the beginning of the war? Googling? am
                  1. +2
                    20 January 2017 20: 26
                    Quote: SergeBS
                    And "for a snack": what happened before - the seizure of Jerusalem by the commandos or the beginning of the war? Googling?

                    Yes, on health, the war on June 5 began an operation in Jerusalem on June 5 at 10 a.m. wink
                    Quote: SergeBS
                    You can also recall the list (more than 20 points) of the US breaking into other countries, but "for some reason" this "world community" was silent. Why would you?

                    I am deeply indifferent to the world community. Jerusalem and the Golan belong to Israel, as the Crimea is actually Russian; the public may at least burst with indignation, it will not change anything hi
                    1. 0
                      20 January 2017 20: 48
                      Well, you’re Ilyukha, without aplomb, there’s no way. But history repeats itself. It will be repeated with you. And you will go again, with crying and screaming. Only here you will go. But Antarctica has not yet been developed. You will find the promised land there. And then defend against penguins.
                    2. 0
                      20 January 2017 20: 55
                      Quote: Hello

                      0
                      Hello Today, 20:26 ↑
                      Quote: SergeBS
                      And "for a snack": what happened before - the seizure of Jerusalem by the commandos or the beginning of the war? Googling?

                      Yes, on health, the war on June 5 began an operation in Jerusalem on June 5 at 10 a.m.

                      In-in. At first, the "peaceful Jews" grabbed something else, and then, as a result of the outbreak of the war, they kept the grabbed. "Quite civilized." To squeeze out "by the right of the strong". This won't work with us.

                      Quote: Hello
                      I am deeply indifferent to the world community. Jerusalem and the Golan belong to Israel, as the Crimea is actually Russian; the public may at least burst with indignation, it will not change anything

                      Uh-huh. With a "small difference" - your commandos came and stupidly grabbed, giving a shit at all. And in the Crimea it was “a little“ different. ”Do not equate yourself, pontovye gopniks, with us. am
                      1. +2
                        20 January 2017 21: 07
                        Quote: SergeBS
                        Uh-huh. With a "little difference" - your commandos came and stupidly grabbed, giving a shit at all

                      2. +2
                        21 January 2017 00: 31
                        Quote: SergeBS
                        In-in. At first, the "peaceful Jews" grabbed something else, and then, as a result of the outbreak of the war, they kept the grabbed. "Quite civilized." To squeeze out "by the right of the strong". This won't work with us.

                        I look at the book I see a fig? The war began on June 5 in the morning at 7 am the battle for Jerusalem at 10:15 on June 5
                        Quote: SergeBS
                        Uh-huh. With a "small difference" - your commandos came and stupidly grabbed, giving a shit at all.

                        You will poke your mom. You are not my brother, not a matchmaker, and not a friend, thank God. stop
                        Quote: SergeBS
                        And in Crimea it was "a little" different

                        But the world community thinks differently, or when you remember it conveniently and when it is not convenient? wink
      2. +2
        19 January 2017 18: 33
        Quote: Vita VKO
        the Israeli military will increase its ability to strike with impunity in the guise of fighting terrorism. .

        The worst thing is that under the motto of the fight against terrorism, the main terrorist, the SSA, is fueling more and more wars! And where they begin to fade, then there is added diesel fuel and napalm!
    4. +3
      19 January 2017 17: 43
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Good weapons, wild predators all around need protection from them.
      But offensive weapons are also needed so that a retaliatory strike can be delivered anywhere in the world.

      Terrible statement, tried to find on a map of Israel laughing ... We have any area more at times.))))
      1. +19
        19 January 2017 17: 54
        Quote: STARPER
        tried to find on the map Israel


        Oh, less than a couple of decades and hundreds of your comments about Israel and against it, and you finally tried to find Israel on the map and found out where it is lol .
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  6. +2
    19 January 2017 17: 29
    Israel’s position is initially losing. The territory is small. Sooner or later, Iran will reach maneuvering warheads and the Kyrgyz Republic (Pakistan is in full swing with a copy of the tomahawk). I think the Persians will agree with the Jews as a result.
    1. +5
      19 January 2017 17: 37
      Quote: Zaurbek
      I think the Persians will agree with the Jews as a result.

      They don’t agree, so Iran will fall apart.
      1. +1
        19 January 2017 18: 44
        While Azerbaijan is actively helping this ... It remains to open the Israeli airbase ...
        1. 0
          19 January 2017 19: 18
          Quote: Zaurbek
          While Azerbaijan is actively helping this ... It remains to open the Israeli airbase ...

          the word is actively here too much. Azerbaijan and Iran are not at the level of relations so that Azerbaijan can afford [/ b] active [b]act against Iran.
          Yes, and there is no need for this. Iran lowered its appetites, did not go much to Azerbaijan because of the dispersal and detention of many in Nardaran. In the early and mid 2000s, Azerbaijan did not dare to do this.
          And along the corridor north-south agreed.
          Attitudes are rather neutral.
          1. 0
            19 January 2017 19: 19
            And with Israel .... an aviation-based agreement?
            1. 0
              23 January 2017 17: 09
              Quote: Zaurbek
              And with Israel .... an aviation-based agreement?

              What other agreement? There are no Israeli air forces in Azerbaijan,
  7. +3
    19 January 2017 17: 33
    Syrian Scud and Lebanese Fatah 110.


    For this, it’s suitable, like David’s Sling
    1. +2
      19 January 2017 17: 36
      technology and chemistry of gunpowder is developing ... Technologies are in the public domain, engineers can be invited for a good salary.
  8. +1
    19 January 2017 17: 37
    to intercept such ballistic missiles as the Iranian Shihab, Syrian Scud and Lebanese Fatah-110 missiles at transatmospheric heights.


    Strange, these missiles do not fly at such heights ..... plus Shahab-3 changes its ballistic trajectory after "exposure". Sajil also "throws off" b \ h. Maybe the Jews are going to shoot down satellites? Only whose?
    1. +1
      19 January 2017 17: 45
      Satellites do not fly so low. At least 180 km, sort of.
      1. +2
        19 January 2017 18: 00
        Satellites do not fly so low.


        Who knows, who there at perigee will sink above the promised land smile
  9. +6
    19 January 2017 17: 39
    “The country's defense belt consists of 3 echelons of missile defense (near, medium and long range), each of which partially covers the area of ​​responsibility of other systems.
    The small size of the country is not always a plus for the Israelis, but specifically in this case it is a definite plus. You can really cover the country with a reliable enough dome for enemy missiles. Such a system will not miss single and several group targets, and if the enemy wants to break through such a defense more massively, it is very likely that Israeli intelligence will reveal such a plan and strike at the deployment stage with its own missiles and aircraft raids. In a particularly difficult case, the United States will join as a strategic ally.
    Their missile defense system does not threaten us, of course, but Iran has something to think about, because. Israel will be able to repel their missile strike, which means that Iran’s opponents have more opportunities for action.
    1. +3
      19 January 2017 17: 50
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      but specifically in this case, this is a definite plus. You can really cover the country with a reliable enough dome for enemy missiles

      I also thought about it after reading the news, and they quite successfully solve this problem.
  10. +4
    19 January 2017 17: 39
    “The main difference between the Arrow-3 and the previous models (Arrow-2 and Arrow-1) is the kinetic strike warhead.” What is the advantage of the kinetic strike? This is contact with the target. Maybe due to the fact that this is already the border of the atmosphere with space (100 km)? That is, targets moving in an airless space? It is not entirely clear.
    1. +3
      19 January 2017 17: 58
      Quote: bald
      What is the advantage of kinetic shock? This is a contact with the goal

      Contact with the target - indicates a high level of guidance technology, a relatively small warhead allows you to increase the radius of the missile, compared with missiles with an explosive warhead or divided into smaller ones, and then a direct hit is a guaranteed destruction. About this I imagine all this, although it is necessary to listen to knowledgeable people.
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        19 January 2017 18: 11
        I agree. Well, after all, and fragments (directed action) from a conventional warhead, the same kinetic energy (only the damage sector is larger). We must listen to others.
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          19 January 2017 18: 29
          Wow and terrible is a thing for the cosmos, there is as much trash as dirt.
        2. +3
          20 January 2017 20: 16
          DefenseNews 15.12.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX (from English)
          "... The Arrow System (AWS) and its upper layer, Arrow-3, made its first interception in a complex test designed to test the system's ability to detect, identify, track and distinguish real targets from false ones, rapidly moving in space. The system selected from several objects flying through space - each not much larger than a liter bottle of Coca-Cola - and aimed the active interceptor directly at the selected target. "The system, in working configuration, detected and selected a target from several. “As soon as Arrow-3 activated its sensors, it aimed the interceptor exactly in the middle of the desired target (and destroyed it with a direct blow) - said Boaz Levy, general director of the IAI's rocket and space division.“ It was truly unprecedented, and all this was happening already in space, "he added.
  11. 0
    19 January 2017 17: 49
    Quote: meshorer
    2 lemons of money for 1 rocket. Wunderwaffle and sawbubble. Either the S-400 business ...

    "Israel considers its missile defense system one of the most effective in the world, capable of destroying up to 100% of enemy missiles." Is there anything in the world more effective than the most effective Israeli air defense?
    1. +1
      19 January 2017 17: 52
      Only Poroshenko’s business is more effective than this. How does his condition grow while he is on duty .....
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    19 January 2017 17: 54
    They will also shoot down ...? And if they are released a couple of thousand at the same time (from different sides ..))))

    In vain Israel is so arrogant about the surrounding Arab countries ... Still, you need to try to negotiate! Even if you make a sphere over the country of "missile-proof" glass, it will not save you if you continue to behave aggressively and contemptuously towards the peoples around you .. Think! hi
    1. +3
      19 January 2017 18: 43
      Kassam is such an ammunition that flies not for a specific target, but only in the approximate direction of the enemy, so you do not need to shoot down everyone, for the same "iron dome" there is no big problem to calculate those few missiles that can cause material damage and only fire anti-missiles at them ...
      Everything is in Jewish traditions, with an eye to saving and even profit.
    2. +2
      19 January 2017 18: 44
      Yes Nah! With this set of sewer pipes they can no longer be scared! Yet their Iron Dome is very effective in this regard. The only thing is if some kind of ear-hooks do not begin to shove other components in the form of chemistry or bacteria instead of explosives, or else dirty YaB. War cannot solve these problems! We still need to agree. hi
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    19 January 2017 17: 54
    Quote: Muvka
    Only Poroshenko’s business is more effective than this. How does his condition grow while he is on duty .....

    How does this relate to Israel’s air defense? Does it pay them or something?
    1. +2
      19 January 2017 19: 03
      And you learn to read not only comments, but also use the arrow, which indicates the comment to which this comment was the answer.
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          19 January 2017 19: 20
          oh, Prof is right there. An immodest question - have you read Herzl, especially his emphasis on the background of the events that served as the beginning of the "first aliyah"? The Bund and its Influence on the Political Process in the League?
          Britain did not fulfill the mandate from the League of Nations and only the decision of the father of the nations put an end to the UN decision on Palestine. The replica has also survived:
          “Let's accept the formation of Israel. It will be like an awl in the ass for the Arab states and make them turn their backs on Britain. Ultimately, British influence will be completely undermined in Egypt, Syria, Turkey and Iraq. ”

          and here's a strange thing, but after many years everything happened exactly as the "terran" said. And the decision was made not out of love for "God's chosen slaves", but on the basis of understandable geopolitical aspirations.
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            19 January 2017 19: 44
            Quote: kirieeleyson
            “Let's accept the formation of Israel.

            Well glory to Gd. Dzhugashvili not "created", not "initiated"but only"agreed"with a fait accompli. Won Syria disagreed with the example. Has anything changed? fellow
            1. +3
              19 January 2017 19: 58
              Prof, mind you, I did not write that the USSR was the only initiator of this process, here the main "pedalist" was Truman, if I am not mistaken.
              If Stalin had rejected the decision to ensure political time pressure for Britain on this issue, then the State of Israel would have been just a "hotbed of national groups" and would have dangled like the NKR in space, the Arabs would not have let you out of the pincers so easily. We must agree with this, since this decision was difficult for Stalin too, he had to break especially ideological maniacs from his own environment.
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                19 January 2017 20: 22
                Quote: kirieeleyson
                Prof, mind you, I did not write that the USSR was the only initiator of this process, here the main "pedalist" was Truman, if I am not mistaken.

                The initiators were Jews, and the rest, if they did not interfere, then certainly did not help.

                Quote: kirieeleyson
                If Stalin had rejected the decision to ensure political time pressure for Britain on this issue, then the State of Israel would have been just a "hotbed of national groups" and would have dangled like the NKR in space, the Arabs would not have let you out of the pincers so easily. We must agree with this, since this decision was difficult for Stalin too, he had to break especially ideological maniacs from his own environment.

                You have a bad story. Would Dzhugashvili agree or not, nothing would have changed. Britain resigned her mandate and the Jews "took advantage" of this Proclaiming on the creation of the state of Israel. in fact, the institutions of state power were created long before that and Dzhugashvili only interfered with their creation. I have an article about this. hi
                1. +2
                  19 January 2017 20: 41
                  Oh, what pathetic speeches, are you getting old, Prof?
                  As for the decision and initiatives: no one would ask the Jews what they (you) want there, there is a recently created UN organization (at that time), political weight (measured in dozens of divisions and even the Pope here, no one can call him ). member countries. Something I do not remember that there was Israel among them. Further, Britain could not use its own power, except for the military, to which it was directly told - you will initiate the war, we will expel you from the UN and come to visit across the Strait. I will not deny that there were such "bloodthirsty" plans, a weighty reason was needed. Britain had nothing to oppose, since the main ally - the USA was "for" and with both hands. You can proclaim anything, this is for Seventh-day Adventists, the main thing is geopolitical realities and strength.
                  The initiators - yes, Jews. More precisely - "the great Jew", to be more precise - Ben Gurion. hi
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                    19 January 2017 23: 18
                    Quote: kirieeleyson
                    As for the decision and initiatives: no one would ask the Jews what they (you) want, there is the recently created UN organization (at that time), political weight (measured in dozens of divisions, and even the Pope is nobody here and there’s no way to call him ) member countries. Something I do not remember, what would Israel be among them.

                    You have a bad story. Jews themselves created all the attributes of statehood in spite of prohibitions and persecution. No one was asked for permission, including Dzhugashvili, who decided to build alternatives to Israel in the Far East, but nothing came of it.

                    Quote: kirieeleyson
                    Further, Britain could not use its own power, except for the military, to which it was directly told - you will initiate the war, expel from the UN and come to visit across the Strait. I will not deny that there were such "bloodthirsty" plans, a weighty reason was needed. Britain had nothing to oppose, since the main ally - the USA was “for” and with both hands. You can proclaim anything, this is for Seventh-day Adventists, the main thing is geopolitical realities and strength.

                    Again by. Britain both hung and shot and imprisoned the creators of Israel. However, she could not oppose anything against the accomplished fact-the formation of Israel. Resistance fighters pretty plucked her.

                    Quote: kirieeleyson
                    The initiators - yes, Jews. More precisely - "the great Jew", to be more precise - Ben Gurion.

                    Again past. Ben-Gurion only joined the already bustling process and led its final phases. Before him there were many Yeshuv leaders.
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                      19 January 2017 23: 24
                      Quote: professor
                      Jews themselves created all the attributes of statehood in spite of prohibitions and persecution.

                      There have been many of these in history. Ataman Gritian Tauride printed his currency.
                      Quote: professor
                      No one was asked permission, including Dzhugashvili, who decided to build alternatives to Israel in the Far East, but nothing came of it.

                      Jewish Autonomous Oblast was founded in 1934, fourteen years before Israel. What an alternative, wake up, you are not on the soldier's literature for the Bedouins.
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                        20 January 2017 06: 16
                        Quote: Parsec
                        Jewish Autonomous Oblast was established in 1934

                        And not in 30?
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                        20 January 2017 13: 50
                        Quote: Parsec
                        There have been many of these in history. Ataman Gritian Tauride printed his currency.

                        To print candy wrappers is not yet statehood. Create a health care system, education, legal system, financial system, security system, universities, schools, theaters, newspapers and further down the list and then we will talk about "there were many". No matter how many of them there were, Yosya Dzhugashvili made no effort to form Israel.

                        Quote: Parsec
                        At first there was a UN resolution, six months later the British withdrew the troops, but the next day Israel was proclaimed. A fait accompli, they plucked ... The British with their colonial experience and slurred fighters in the desert - oh, quit.

                        At first, everything was created de facto and the UN had no choice left after Britain refused the mandate to recognize a fait accompli de jure.
                    2. +3
                      19 January 2017 23: 33
                      Quote: professor
                      However, she could not oppose anything against the fait accompli — the formation of Israel —

                      At first there was a UN resolution, six months later the British withdrew the troops, but the next day Israel was proclaimed. A fait accompli, they plucked ... The British with their colonial experience and slurred fighters in the desert - oh, quit.
                    3. +2
                      19 January 2017 23: 41
                      Quote: professor
                      Jews themselves created all the attributes of statehood

                      Woman: Where are my six years old? I had everything - husband, children, shop ...
                    4. +1
                      20 January 2017 18: 57
                      Quote: professor
                      You have a bad story.

                      This is with you, my dear, bad story. And therefore, nickname is self-promotion, no more.
                      The facts, they are, do not depend on the "competent opinion" of some "professors". Namely:
                      1. The Jewish Autonomous Region was established MUCH earlier than the time when all sorts of Jabotinsky and Meirs received at least some influence not on conservatives. The foundation of the creation (surprise!) Was concern for the border of the USSR. Therefore, not Crimea, but Siberia received.
                      2. The creation of the state of Israel is based on the proposal of "Uncle Joe", which it was impossible to refuse, taking into account the WEIGHT of its Red Army and its influence on big politics. A crowd of Jews with their leaders could shout to a carrot plot - "give us a place for a state" with NO result. Because the:
                      1. REAL military or political force did not represent.
                      2. Even among fellow tribesmen of supporters of moving to their own state (if this happens) there were fewer than those who remained in the acquired place.
                      So, "professor", learn the materiel, and not the slogans about "WE MADE EVERYTHING BY OURSELVES!" scatter.
                2. +3
                  19 January 2017 23: 38
                  Quote: professor
                  in fact, the institutions of state power were created long before that and Dzhugashvili only interfered with their creation. I have an article about this.

                  And I have a cartoon
                  .
                  1949 g
                  1. +3
                    20 January 2017 01: 15
                    Cool cartoon! Thank.
        2. +1
          19 January 2017 21: 53
          The initiator of the Jewish Autonomous Region, or rather, was "FOR" the creation of Israel. The EAO, by the way, is functioning and waiting if that ........
    2. +6
      19 January 2017 18: 23
      This is when I tried?
    3. +9
      19 January 2017 18: 46
      Quote: Rabinovich
      The huge USSR was trying to destroy Israel, as a result, it fell apart ...

      Well, how not to laugh at you like that ...
  15. +9
    19 January 2017 18: 21
    and Lebanese "Fatah-110".

    Against Lebanese Fateh? Well then, let’s immediately out of the gun on the sparrows. What happened to VO? Reprint stupid things. Who is the author? We demand an author in the studio. wassat

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    19 January 2017 18: 36
    Something too much fire. It seems that it’s not the missile defense that takes off, but the N-1 starts on the moon.
    1. +1
      19 January 2017 18: 55
      Quote: sabakina
      Something too much fire. It seems that it’s not the missile defense that takes off, but the N-1 starts on the moon.

      I think that the Jews specifically came up with such an effect ... So that there would be more fire and roar in the whole Middle East .. The Arabs are so scared away! laughing
      Oh, Russia would have such problems, and so much money ... We would have dealt with the Arabs without missiles! And Israel is a specific country, it is interesting to watch them ... bully What else will they come up with ...?
    2. +4
      19 January 2017 19: 43
      and here there was a little less fire

      face result
      1. +4
        19 January 2017 21: 27
        And what? In Israel, rockets at the start never fell? wink
        1. +2
          19 January 2017 22: 35
          so epic no!
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            24 January 2017 10: 03
            You don’t have such missiles .... Patriot except that. The British trident but beautifully plopped.
        2. 0
          19 January 2017 22: 37
          Who is pleased to talk about this. What can be development without falls. Starting fuel is different. But in the photo in the article, a launcher, which is a bit big, almost a hospital. It is interesting to know the deployment time of this caravan and ext. equipment, until ready to start.
      2. +2
        19 January 2017 21: 54
        powder charge .....
        1. +1
          19 January 2017 22: 21
          What is a powder charge? Was the raw powder? belay
          1. +2
            19 January 2017 22: 26
            if the rocket bounced, then the powder is normal. The engine did not turn on .... We from Mortar fired the "Cornflower" cassette like this - 2 shots - 3 no and caught fire ... the same screams and all over the bushes .... And then the rocket.
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  19. 0
    19 January 2017 18: 47
    Quote: Asadullah
    Strange, these missiles do not fly at such heights ..... plus Shahab-3 changes its ballistic trajectory after "exposure". Sajil also "throws off" b \ h. Maybe the Jews are going to shoot down satellites? Only whose?

    Interestingly, at what altitudes do these missiles fly?
    Shehab-3 changes trajectory after exposure? What is it like? What, the old Soviet "Scud" has already become controllable along the course, altitude?
    So what, what, how do you say "Sajil" throws off (interesting terminology) BG? That interceptor missiles are only meant to destroy missiles and not warheads?
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  21. +1
    19 January 2017 19: 29
    Quote: sabakina
    Something too much fire. It seems that it’s not the missile defense that takes off, but the N-1 starts on the moon.

    Normal amount of fire. Most likely start on their own engines, and not "mortar", like our S-300
    1. +1
      19 January 2017 21: 30
      Normal? With such normality, one ashes can easily remain from the launcher. Such a rocket needs the Gagarin launch pad.
    2. 0
      19 January 2017 22: 52
      The S-300 has a start on dry fuel, and they can see it immediately on a working one - liquid. In the video S-300 (emergency start), the working engine did not turn on.
  22. 0
    19 January 2017 19: 33
    Quote: Muvka
    And you learn to read not only comments, but also use the arrow, which indicates the comment to which this comment was the answer.

    And you didn’t try to quote the comment, and not just answer, so that it wouldn’t work out that you write to the previous commentator. No offense, would it be better, what do you think?
  23. 0
    19 January 2017 19: 38
    The heights of the technological progress of civilization are littered with a mass of deadly weapons, an avalanche that is inevitable due to the aim of reducing the world's population. Israel is small in size and can close its sky many times, but not absolutely. The breakthrough and undermining of only one nuclear warhead of 100 Kt will be unacceptable for the life of the population of this small territory. A strike can be delivered not only by missiles, but also by torpedoes with nuclear warheads. The country has an elongated coastline. There are many options, but let them believe in Arrow-3 missile defense ..
    "Blessed is he who believes ..."
    1. 0
      19 January 2017 21: 23
      "A breakthrough and detonation of just one nuclear warhead of 100 Kt will be unacceptable in terms of the consequences for the life of the population of this small territory." The territory will be deactivated, and in a year the level of alpha, beta, gamma and neutron radiation will decrease to normal.
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    19 January 2017 20: 30
    The Arrow-3 missile defense system sucks completely.

    Expensive ballistic missiles are designed to deliver expensive thermonuclear charges. It is worth firing at Israel with two missiles (with a short interval between launches), the first of which will undermine the thermonuclear charge outside the ABM line, as all Israeli radars will fail just during the flight to the target of the second missile.

    Iran already has medium-range ballistic missiles, a few more years - and thermonuclear weapons will appear.
    1. 0
      19 January 2017 21: 28
      "All Israel's radars will fail."
  28. 0
    19 January 2017 20: 32
    Yes they lie. To raise to such a height, this is how much fuel is needed, plus the speed, it is anti-aircraft, and the vertical take-off is not a ballistic, plus a charge and a lot more.
  29. +1
    19 January 2017 20: 41
    Israeli missile defense is one of the best in the world ...
    1. +2
      19 January 2017 22: 00
      True, but not all.
      Israeli missile defense is one of the best in the South Asian world ...
      A trifle, but it really changes realities ...
      1. +2
        19 January 2017 22: 19
        No, I’m modest. Israel has the best missile defense system in the world ... Unlike any foreign counterparts, the Israeli missile defense system shoots missiles not only at military training grounds, but also in real combat conditions.
        1. +1
          19 January 2017 23: 03
          Quote: Holoy
          Israeli missile defense system shoots missiles not only at military training grounds, but also in real combat conditions.

          Uh-huh. Someone like Israel fired from scrap metal. And the much-publicized "Steel Dome" shot down not all. Googling? wink
          1. 0
            19 January 2017 23: 15
            What are you writing to me? I know everything and so ... they have a three-level missile defense ... "Iron Dome" -low level ...
            1. 0
              20 January 2017 19: 05
              I don't give a damn about the number of levels, at least 100. There was a missile attack, there was its reflection. The reality turned out to be "slightly" worse than the advertisements for Israeli missile defense. With a ridiculous attack.
              so what about "I know everything and so" - that's good, but here are the FACTS - no need to hide. If you know them.
        2. +1
          20 January 2017 00: 27
          Quote: Holoy
          Israeli missile defense system shoots missiles not only at military training grounds, but also in real combat conditions.
          The Israelis really can shoot down "flying logs" ... But the Arab shelling has nothing to do with the real combat (!) Situation. This is, in fact, a training ground: no electronic warfare, from one direction, the ballistics is normal ... Why not shoot down something. This is not "Kirov" software (software) for the second missile defense system ... So, purely in Jewish!
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    2. +3
      19 January 2017 21: 03
      And where to go to poor Rabinovich.
    3. +1
      19 January 2017 21: 56
      You just blow in the wrong direction and slow down .... and the story is bad. The exam probably got to you.
      1. 0
        19 January 2017 22: 19
        And you sho. So from those lawyers? So what?
        1. 0
          19 January 2017 22: 23
          As always, he wrote to one and got to another. wink
    4. +1
      20 January 2017 00: 34
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Many want the destruction of my family, me, all Jews.
      fascism raised its head again.

      Fascism is when they want to destroy all nations except their own. And in your case "just" anti-Semitism - they want to destroy one nation - the Jews. You have to be more modest.
    5. +1
      20 January 2017 07: 24
      Quote: Rabinovich
      A lot of evil comments. Many want the destruction of my family, me, all Jews.
      fascism raised its head again.

      Is disagreement with Israeli foreign policy fascism? Nobody advocates the murder of Jews here, although, I agree, the argument in places is too emotional. There is a reason for such emotionality, but it lies in a completely different plane than anti-Semitism and generally has nothing to do with nationalities
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        20 January 2017 21: 17
        Quote: user1212
        Is disagreement with Israeli foreign policy fascism?

        Well this is an old tale. As soon as the clarification of the REAL losses of the "chosen nation" begins, from its "progressive representatives" there immediately comes a substitution of concepts - "Do you object to the number of OUR victims? Then you object to the Holocaust! You are a fascist!" Since the clarification of this quantity will hurt the wallet and the immeasurable conceit of the "God's chosen". "Nothing personal, just business." wink
  31. 0
    19 January 2017 21: 00
    Quote: professor
    I have an article about this.

    Well, tell me in your next article where your compatriots would have lived with a show off if their state had not been created, by imperative you yourself know whom.
  32. +1
    19 January 2017 21: 00
    Have to chop.
    1. +2
      19 January 2017 21: 31
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Have to chop.

      Well, exactly "Starper" laughing
      Mr. Rabinovich, I beg you, stop reading the Ukrainian press, from your comments you can already see that the nerves are naughty!
      Admit, as in spirit, you and Nenko’s family, chi nі?
      1. +2
        19 January 2017 22: 32
        Quote: Dym71
        Well, exactly "Starper"

        I support, it seems someone has mastered a VPN or proxy fellow
        1. 0
          20 January 2017 19: 15
          Quote: Hello
          it seems someone mastered a VPN or proxy

          Well, ALL "in a boy" is not necessary. VPN is one thing, but proxy is quite another. Their spheres of action practically do not overlap. A proxy is, so to speak, a fence with a gate through which you can enter using a password. VPNs are roads fenced off from the "plebs" on a huge area called the Internet. Something like that, on the fingers.
    2. 0
      19 January 2017 21: 32
      Rabinovich. It's you, you are hinting at pogroms. We are peaceful people, if you don’t touch us.
    3. +2
      19 January 2017 21: 39
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Have to chop.

      Izya .....
      You sho .... in childhood sho something not chopped off?
      laughing
    4. +3
      19 January 2017 21: 57
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Have to chop.

    5. +2
      20 January 2017 00: 46
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Have to chop.
      "How is it, your mother, do you order to be understood?" (C)
      Dear Rabinovich! Intrigue, however ...
      1. If about "wood", then right. Winter is now snowy, abnormally frosty, however.
      2. If "circumcision" is not enough, then of course, where to go? But, if necessary, then it is necessary !!!
      3. If the "heads", then this is according to the profile of ISIS ...
      4. If "right-womb", then this is the fiefdom of the Russians, damn it ...
  33. +1
    19 January 2017 22: 00
    Because I love Jews so much

    There are few of them left - Jews
    In the vastness of today's Russia.
    Therefore, I love the Jews so much.
    "And why" - ask me as soon as possible.

    Curly pace to my heart
    A nose with a hump near sad eyes.
    The count of my flights went astray .-
    I fly to Haifa once again!
  34. +1
    19 January 2017 22: 14
    Wrote a comment and I was added the title of epaulette, interesting.
    The page is too long and the phone freezes, I can not quote. I will come later from the computer.
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      19 January 2017 22: 57
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Wrote a comment and I was added the title of epaulette, interesting.
      The page is too long and the phone freezes, I can not quote. I will come later from the computer.

      Mr. Rabinovich, are you turning to someone now or is it a work of thought? winked
    2. +3
      19 January 2017 23: 16
      Quote: Rabinovich
      and the phone freezes, I can not quote. I will come later from the computer.

      Do not.
  35. +3
    20 January 2017 18: 36
    On the splash screen "Strela-2". Here is Arrow-3 (right) ...
  36. 0
    20 January 2017 19: 23
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Israel’s position is initially losing.

    Is not a fact. If you look at the last 25 years of the last century, you can easily find a pattern: as soon as oil rose in price, one "small but strongly independent country" arranged another war. The people around were URGENTLY armed, the oil price was falling ...
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    20 January 2017 21: 44
    teder,
    How significant this is. As soon as on one topic crap, so immediately "translate the arrows". Nu-nu.
    Shchaz I will make you a headache, Schaub did not treat me.
    1. What defeated Ermak there, with a "great army" as much as 30 Cossacks? Will you find it yourself, or will we google it?
    2. Why did the "great khanate" collapse from the "immeasurable strength" of Ermak's detachment? Is it because he was the FIRST who "sent" these khans with their desire to cut coupons and not do anything? Became a catalyst.
    continue to continue or enough? wink
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      20 January 2017 21: 50
      Quote: SergeBS
      1. What defeated Ermak there, with a "great army" as much as 30 Cossacks? Will you find it yourself, or will we google it?

      A detachment of 840 people was formed in the possessions of the Stroganovs, in Orel-Gorodok. The Stroganov merchants took an active part in equipping the detachment with everything necessary [1]. The Ermak Cossacks arrived at the Kama at the invitation of the Stroganovs in 1579 to protect their possessions from attacks by Voguls and Ostyaks. The campaign was carried out without the knowledge of the tsarist authorities, and Karamzin called its participants "a small gang of tramps." The backbone of the conquerors of Siberia was made up of five hundred Volga Cossacks led by atamans such as Ermak Timofeevich, Ivan Koltso, Matvey Meshcheryak, Nikita Pan, Yakov Mikhailov. In addition to them, Tatars, Germans and Lithuania took part in the campaign. The army was sunk in 80 plows

      Quote: SergeBS
      2. Why did the "great khanate" collapse from the "immeasurable strength" of Ermak's detachment? Is it because he was the FIRST who "sent" these khans with their desire to cut coupons and not do anything? Became a catalyst.

      Quote: SergeBS
      came and stupidly grabbed, shitting on everyone.

      Quote: SergeBS
      continue to continue or enough?

      1. 0
        20 January 2017 22: 11
        Well, you see, as soon as you were "weak" to take - and exposed himself. wink
        "Agromenny army", in whole, your quote: "A detachment of 840 people" gouged the whole khanate. In which the troops were MUCH more. Google further. wink
        Perhaps you will understand why the locals considered Ermak a liberator ... wink
        And next time you will not "switch the arrows" from "noble Jews" to Siberia. smile
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          20 January 2017 23: 21
          Quote: SergeBS
          Perhaps you will understand why the locals considered Ermak a liberator ...

          They told you that. wink
          On August 6 (16), 1585, Yermak Timofeevich himself also died. He walked with a small detachment of 50 people along the Irtysh. During an overnight stay on the shore at the mouth of the Vagay River, Kuchum attacked sleeping Cossacks and destroyed almost the entire detachment
          There were so few Cossacks that the ataman Meshcheryak, after a lap convened, was supposed to come back to Russia. After two years of ownership, the Cossacks ceded Siberia to Kuchum in order to return in a year there with a new squad.
          ---- liberators wink
          Quote: SergeBS
          And next time you will not "switch the arrows" from "noble Jews" to Siberia

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    21 January 2017 12: 43
    Quote: teder
    They told you that.

    There is no other way to explain - how "as many" 840 people SUDDENLY defeated the Khan's troops. True, for this you need to think. winked
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      21 January 2017 12: 49
      Quote: SergeBS
      Quote: teder
      They told you that.

      There is no other way to explain - how "as many" 840 people SUDDENLY defeated the Khan's troops. True, for this you need to think. winked

      How ? And how much should you write?
      Quote: SergeBS
      That Yermak defeated there, with a "great army" already in 30 Cossacks?

      Although this example will not explain anything to you
      . Pizarro received 3 light sailboats, 67 cavalrymen armed with lances and swords, 157 infantrymen - spearmen and swordsmen, 20 long-range crossbowmen, 3 soldiers with firearms and 2 artillery pieces in total.

      In 1532, Pizarro arrived on the coast of modern Peru with 200 foot soldiers and only 27 horses

      The capture of Atahualpa occurred as a result of the battle of November 16, 1532 near the city of Kahamarka. In this battle, Pizarro’s squad of 168 people defeated the Atahualpa army, which was significantly superior in number. The victory in the battle resulted in the capture of the leader of the empire, numbering more than 1 million subjects, and the death of more than 20 loyal soldiers of Atahualpa. Pissarro did not lose any of his soldiers killed in this battle.
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        22 January 2017 17: 27
        The funny thing is that the Spaniards did not destroy the locals, unlike the "democratic" settlers in the United States.
        In Siberia, in general, the Cossacks were related to the locals, but this is not "an indicator of democracy." Only the khanate was liquidated.
        Despite the fact that the sources of victories in both places are the same: an empire where all the slaves, except the very top, were weak precisely because of slavery.
        The Indians in North America, due to the absence of the slavery empire, fought the settlers from "civilized" England and France much more successfully.
  39. 0
    22 January 2017 17: 15
    Hello,
    Quote: Hello
    I am deeply indifferent to the world community

    Quote: Hello
    But the world community thinks differently, or when you remember it conveniently and when it is not convenient?

    This is whose? So who, when conveniently, remembers, and when it is inconvenient - forgets?
    With the "world community", which, here is a discrepancy, can not find the FACTS about the violation of the UN Charter, one need not remember. Therefore, the screeching in the media is worth it, but there are no FACTS ... There was only a desire for the United States to grab the Crimea for free with the help of the rulers of 404, but they broke off.
  40. Maz
    +2
    23 January 2017 17: 53
    https://defence.ru/editors-choice/nebo-izrailya-o
    khranyayut-rossiiskie-kompleksi-pvo-video /

    The sky of Israel is guarded by Russian air defense systems (video)
    Judging by the presentation clip of the latest Israeli anti-missile system Arrow 3, the sky of Israel is guarded by Russian air defense systems S-300, S-400. Neighing
  41. 0
    6 February 2017 22: 52
    Hello,
    Quote: Hello
    I am deeply indifferent to the world community

    Quote: Hello
    But the world community thinks differently, or when you remember it conveniently and when it is not convenient? wink

    This is whose?
    Well, "either remove the cross or put on your underpants." (C) Anecdote.
    Those. either spit on the world community or not. And then it turns out originally - "spit or not - I decide, and the others - MUST do as I want."

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