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45 th president. Prologue

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45 th president. Prologue



Russia's contribution to the process of resolving the Syrian conflict is difficult to overestimate. To recognize the leading role of Moscow in this issue today, all the major players in the international political arena are forced, but the reasoning of some of them are, at least, unexpected.

In particular, on the eve of the MSNBC TV channel, a representative of the Republican Party and part-time head of the US Senate Committee on Armed Forces John McCain complained that Russian President Vladimir Putin had succeeded in “achieving the desired in a very smart way, despite the bad cards on hand.” The senator also deplored the possible invitation of the United States to participate in the peace conference on Syria in Astana, convened at the initiative of Russia, Turkey and Iran. According to McCain, the fact that his country does not lead this event and is not even a full-fledged participant testifies to the decline in which the American state is located.

In the light of the above, it is appropriate to recall that John McCain is known for his consistent anti-Russian position and was one of the initiators of sanctions against Moscow. Similar views, by the way, were formed by the politician long before the return of the Crimea to Russia and the start of the antiterrorist operation of the Russian videoconferencing in Syria. Moreover, just last week, the senator announced that the only possible strategy for Washington’s relations with the Kremlin should be based on the principle of Ronald Reagan: “Achieving peace through force.”

Then how to evaluate the current statement of the chairman of the US defense committee? Can this be considered a kind of capitulation of the American hawk to Moscow? Or is McCain's comment a part of the plan to discredit the outgoing White House administration? With a certain degree of confidence, it can be assumed that such statements are intended to prepare the ground for decisive actions by the team of the elected President of the United States, Donald Trump, who remained only a few days before taking office. Presumably, the Republicans will try to wrap the weakness of the current leader Barack Obama in their favor, suggesting to voters and the whole world that it is the indecisiveness of the Oval Cabinet’s protagonist who became the catalyst for the change in world order and caused the strengthening of such states as Russia and China. This, in turn, will allow the US leadership to get carte blanche from its own population for the implementation of the power scenario in current conflicts, primarily in the Middle East. But such actions are unlikely to help America become great again.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 January 2017 06: 44
    +4
    America to become great again
    was she "great"? I don't think! -satanic state, killer country, blathata of criminals, genocide-corporate identity! America had to be different, with the civilization of the Indians, this is their land!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 21 January 2017 07: 36
      +2
      The country of adventurers, fugitive criminals and sheltered villains. That's what the USA is ..
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      America to become great again
      was she "great"? I don't think! -satanic state, killer country, blathata of criminals, genocide-corporate identity! America had to be different, with the civilization of the Indians, this is their land!
    2. Voyager
      Voyager 21 January 2017 09: 34
      +1
      One does not interfere. As in some book it was: "he did great things. Terrible, yes, but great"
    3. teder
      teder 21 January 2017 09: 37
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      America had to be different, with the civilization of the Indians, this is their land!

      good
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 21 January 2017 11: 38
        +1
        Quote: teder
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        America had to be different, with the civilization of the Indians, this is their land!

        good

        They were and are the indigenous inhabitants of Russia. By the way, the Chukchi are excellent warriors and the unification of their lands with Russia was not at all an easy and cloudless event. Only Russia did not set out to destroy or squeeze indigenous peoples from their ancestral lands, as the United States did.
        1. teder
          teder 21 January 2017 11: 57
          +1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          They were and are the indigenous inhabitants of Russia.

          No, they are the indigenous people of Russia.
          They are indigenous
          Chukchi (ust. Luverovetlana [4]) - small indigenousArod of the extreme northeast of Asia scattered over a vast territory from the Bering Sea to the Indigirka River and from the Arctic Ocean to the Anadyr and Anyui rivers. .


          Quote: Nyrobsky
          By the way, the Chukchi are excellent warriors and the unification of their lands with Russia was not at all an easy and cloudless event. T

          Of course, they fought for their freedom and lost
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Only Russia did not set out to destroy or squeeze indigenous peoples from their ancestral lands.

          And all this territory that was inhabited by the Chukchi is their Chukchi Autonomous Region?
          Are they the owners there?
          GOVERNMENT OF THE CHUKOTSK AUTONOMOUS DISTRICT
          Kopin Roman Valentinovich - Governor -
          Nikolaev Leonid Anatolyevich - First Deputy Governor
          Andrey Gennadievich Bolenkov - Deputy Governor - Prime Minister
          Kalinova Alesya Andreevna - Deputy Governor
          http://xn--80atapud1a.xn--p1ai/power/government/d
          eputy_governor /

          compare
          The U.S. government recognizes tribal self-government. Tribes living on reserves have the right to form their own government, to formulate and enforce laws, to establish taxes, to grant citizenship to a tribe, to license and regulate almost all types of activities. In a legal sense, Native American reservations have rights that the US states have. Like the states, they cannot enter into official relations with other states (this is the prerogative of the federal government), declare war and issue money.

          The reservations are subject to both federal laws and laws established by the tribes themselves. State laws in most cases are not valid on the reservation. In most reservations, tribal courts and law enforcement agencies are active.

          Indians pay federal taxes like the rest of the United States. Residents of reservations do not pay state income tax if the source of their income is on the reservation and property tax on the reservation.

          Well so for the story
          In 1727, on the initiative of the Yakut Cossack head Afanasy Shestakov, the Senate of the Russian Empire approved the “opinion”:

          “Inozemtsev and whose peoples are sought after and adjoined to the Siberian side, and not under whose authority, to subjugate those under Russian possession and introduce into the yasak payment.
          Pavlutsky wrote of a campaign in 1731: “And May 9 reached the first chukoch yurts sitting on that sea, in which the former chukoch were beaten ... We saw from that place in the near distance ... the sedentary yurt and the chukoch who were in it were beaten ... and reached their chyukotsky prison ... and in that prison there were yurts up to the axes, which were ravaged and burned. " Anadyr Cossacks confirmed the extremely hostile actions of Pavlutsky: "Chukoch, without calling into citizenship, beat to death." Often the Chukchi committed suicide as a whole family, because they did not want to die at the hands of the conquerors. [4] The conquerors of Siberia undermined the confidence of the indigenous people by their treachery: the centurion Vasily Shipitsyn called for talks of 12 Chukchi elders and killed everyone
          The Chukchi war with the Russian troops continued almost 150 years
          In Chukchi mythology, the image of the Russian conquerors was as follows: “The clothes are all iron, the mustache is like that of a walrus, the eyes are round iron, the spears are elbow-length and behave pugnaciously - they call for battle.” However, the cruelty of the Russians caused the greatest horror, perceived by the natives as absolutely unmotivated: Yakunin (Pavlutsky), an evil enemy with a flaming bow (flintlock gun), men and women were brutally killed, chopped with an ax. Twenty carts of caps of the dead sent to the king. “There are no more of them, they have exterminated everyone,” the king boasted. “Many herds were robbed. Ours unexpectedly attacked, defeated, cut everyone, only the chief was taken alive to torment.

          go through the numbers?

          1720g
          At that time, the number of Chukchi was about 10000 people engaged in reindeer husbandry and marine hunting. The level of their technical development corresponded to the Neolithic. The tips of spears and arrows were made of bone and stone (flint, obsidian, rock crystal). The Chukchi also had walrus leather and bone plate armor.

          The number according to the data of the All-Russian population census of 2002 is 15 767 people, according to the data of the All-Russian population census of 2010 - 15 908 human.

          a 5000 increase in population over 300 years.
          All are anointed and no one voluntarily went into bondage.
          Neither in America nor in Russia.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 21 January 2017 12: 22
            0
            Quote: teder
            All are anointed and no one voluntarily went into bondage.
            Neither in America nor in Russia.

            I wrote about this that land unification was not an easy walk, only Russia did not limit the indigenous peoples to any reserves, did not infect them with smallpox, did not knock out their feed base, in a word, did not adhere to the policy of genocide of peoples. If there were any bloody clashes, then, as a rule, at the initial stage of land development, due to the opposition of local princes. Then they converted them to faith and installed yasak in the treasury for each nose, and allowed to live according to their traditional way of life.
            Quote: teder
            The US government recognizes tribal rights to self-government. Reservation tribesare entitled to

            Here are the Indians living on the reservations, they got away from the Americans quite recently, in the middle of the last century. If you are so convincingly trying to emphasize the "good attitude" of mattresses to indigenous peoples and their rights, then here is a link to their antics, in comparison with which, our "robbers conquerors of the northern lands" will seem just darlings.
            http://trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=Content&pa=
            showpage & pid = 1
            1. teder
              teder 21 January 2017 12: 40
              +1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              only Russia did not limit indigenous peoples to some kind of reservation

              You read what a reservation is and believe me, many nations would agree to live there.
              A reservation is an analogue of an autonomous region, only truly autonomous — where all power belongs to the indigenous people of its inhabitants.
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              did not infect them with smallpox, did not knock out their feed base, in a word did not adhere to the policy of genocide of peoples

              Do not write nonsense - genocide in full measure and this applies not only to the northern peoples, but also to the peoples of the Caucasus.
              It makes no difference whether you were infected with smallpox or simply hacked into cabbage.
              The result is the same
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              If there were any bloody clashes, then, as a rule, at the initial stage of land development, due to the opposition of local princes.

              Read carefully - the war with the Chukchi lasted 150 years, read about the wars in the Caucasus.
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Then they converted them to faith and installed yasak in the treasury for each nose, and allowed to live according to their traditional way

              Well, everything is like with the Indians.
              I especially liked yours -
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Then they converted them to faith and installed yasak in the treasury for each nose, and allowed to live according to their traditional way of life.

              Indeed, that has changed in the traditional way laughing
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Here are the Indians living on the reservations, they got away from the Americans quite recently, in the middle of the last century. If you are so convincingly trying to emphasize the "good attitude" of mattresses to indigenous peoples and their rights, then here is a link to their antics, in comparison with which, our "robbers conquerors of the northern lands" will seem just darlings.

              And those and those bandyugan, fire and sword expanding their possessions and not reckoning with the local population.
              The only difference is that some admitted this, while others are still convinced that they have done a good deed.
    4. xetai9977
      xetai9977 21 January 2017 12: 15
      +1
      You can pour out as much bile here as you like at the United States. But they are truly a great country with great opportunities. Approximately every 5th product in the world (no matter what) is made in USA. They are the only country whose spacecraft have reached ALL planets of the solar system .. I am not talking about the welfare of the population. Everyone here who pitifully tries to joke about them, in his heart dreams of living the way the average American lives. As for Trump ... some of them have already written it down as "pro-Russian" from some hangover)) They will soon be very upset. For America is not a country whose leaders are pro ... They were and will be only pro-American.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 21 January 2017 13: 12
        0
        I totally agree with you. No matter how the local patriots tried to bucket, what kind of Americans are scum, bandits, murderers and other blah blah blah, but the absolute fact is that a significant percentage of Russian citizens still dream of living in America. This is especially common among young people. Naturally, not everyone admits this.
        The number of Russians wishing to emigrate to the United States reached a historical record in 2015, writes Bloomberg, citing data from the State Department. US Foreign Office Adopted This Year 265 086 applications from Russia for green cards, giving the right to permanent residence in the United States, despite the fact that Russia has a quota of 4 thousand. such documents.
        Read more at RBC:
        http://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/10/2015/5620d2ef9a7
        9477e79b083c5
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 21 January 2017 15: 27
        0
        Well, go there, to heaven on earth! Or do not let out of the page with a colorful flag?
        I want to remind you - here we speak at home. Our home is good for us. We are mainly patriots of our home.
        Do not poke your dirty noses and even more so give advice on how to behave yourself here.
        Well, in order not to hear in response a recommendation on the direction of movement.
  2. Putinets
    Putinets 21 January 2017 06: 45
    +4
    Is there really at least one of the sane people who still believe in the Anglo-Saxons in matters of friendship and equality in cooperation? This is what kind of biljo you need to have in your head in order to believe in kind words about friendship with Angosaxians. They will never go on equal terms with us unless they get hit on the head.
    It seems to me that with trump we get more involved than a monkey blende
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 21 January 2017 09: 36
      0
      If Trump will try to keep everything in his hands, it is unlikely. Even with an adversary it’s easier to behave if you maintain business relations with him.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 21 January 2017 10: 28
      0
      Yes, we’ll hint more. Trump was moved by people who calculated the loss in all respects to China. The prospects are simple: a hydrogen engine (R&D and serialization) costs --XX $, and the Chinese have reduced new models of cars (gasoline and electric) to X dollars.
      and so with slippers and furniture (in IKEA), tanks and civilian aircraft (the entire line), light bulbs and coal combines (and military tunnels).
      This, according to intelligence (there are a lot of them, why?), Will lead to the seizure of markets (not sewing down jackets). At 1.5 billion in China + another 2-3 billion in poor countries.
      But the cost of Chinese goods "crawls" for mass sales and raising the standard of living in them. China in 10 years - the "lamp of progress" will be for 3 billion people. This is the loss of the "EXCLUSION" of the United States.
  3. demotivator
    demotivator 21 January 2017 08: 25
    +2
    the elected President of the United States, Donald Trump, before taking office who is a matter of days.

    Yeah. Why not months? Become posted on the site 12 hours after Trump took office as President of the United States! After his inaugural speech, where he outlined his vision of problems and ways to solve them. And the author is still wondering on the coffee grounds.
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  4. sa-ag
    sa-ag 21 January 2017 10: 48
    0
    "America - first" (C) D. Trump
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 21 January 2017 11: 47
      +1
      Quote: sa-ag
      "America - first" (C) D. Trump

      Yeah, the first, the first, by the number of military adventures begun and not finished, which led her to the fact that the world no longer perceives her as a guarantor of stability in the world, but rather, on the contrary, as a generator of world problems, both military and financial and economic .
  5. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 21 January 2017 11: 36
    0
    Well, this is all a well-known method of "inciting" the "spirit" of a strong adversary - if direct calls for the use of force do not work, then they begin to play on the opposite - on something like "how beautiful you were" "made", "outplayed", etc. ., well, - remember how in the cartoon "Mowgli" Bagheera kindled Kaa's hatred for the banderlog: "And one more thing: they called you a yellow fish and an earthworm! Yes, yes, an earthworm! "....
  6. HAM
    HAM 21 January 2017 13: 03
    +1
    The Ukrainians have a second dream after the "visa-free" - a personal meeting of Porshenko with the new, now "white master".
    About the "meeting" in February tryndyat all ukrosmi. laughing
  7. iouris
    iouris 21 January 2017 14: 41
    0
    "Greatness of America (USA)" is the last thing Russians should think about. Otherwise, the Russian Federation is something like Puerto Rico.
  8. Mestny
    Mestny 21 January 2017 15: 37
    -1
    Quote: teder
    And all this territory that was inhabited by the Chukchi is their Chukchi Autonomous Region?
    Are they the owners there?

    Anyone, if he is a citizen of Russia, can go anywhere on the territory of Ross and live there. It doesn’t matter whether the Chukchi is Russian or a Jew or someone else.
    ... They lived there or not, and in what quantity, in fact, no one really knows.
    But what would we say in the XVIII century that the Chukchi were sold as slaves wherever they were in Moscow, I did not hear that. And I didn’t hear about blacks.
    When was slavery abolished there in "paradise on earth"?
    1. teder
      teder 21 January 2017 17: 08
      0
      Quote: Mestny
      But what would we say in the XVIII century that the Chukchi were sold as slaves wherever they were in Moscow, I did not hear that. And I didn’t hear about blacks.
      When was slavery abolished there in "paradise on earth"?

      Indeed, I did not hear about the fact that the Russians sold the Chukchi to slavery, nor did the Americans (whites) sell the Americans (whites) or Indians into slavery ..
      I heard how Russian Russians sold into slavery and canceled it in
      in 1861

      In America, slavery was abolished in 1865.
      1. Cook
        Cook 23 January 2017 20: 51
        +1
        Listen to the figure, have you ever seen one Chukchi in your life? They fought for 150 years with the Russians, yeah. You probably do not know how to translate Luoveltlans - the right people, and that plainly they do not even know how to fight. 10000 people lived on a huge territory the size of a couple of France. You them, if they are nomadic, and not marine, find first in the tundra. But take an interest in activities in the territory of modern Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, American companies in the 19th century. How whole species of animals that make up the feed base of the Chukchi were predatoryly destroyed and how they were simply robbed, using credulity, soldering them with alcohol. Every year, American companies in Chukotka killed up to 3 thousand whales. In 1829, the Americans, having drunk the Chukes, took over 1000 deer at a time. Does Russia mean bad? By the way, according to the laws of the Russian Empire, the Chukchi had a special situation: they lived and were judged according to their own laws, with the exception of murders and robbery. And by the way, in the Code of Laws of the Russian Empire it was written in article 1256: the Chukchi pay yasik by number and quality according to their own understanding. And although RI declared this territory its own in 1779, until 1889 there were no Russian administrative bodies there, and the Americans hosted it as they wanted. About the Soviet Union, I don’t say at all, do you know what life expectancy of the Chukchi was before the revolution? So I tell you, 35 years. You yourself gave the numbers, for 300 years the population has grown by 60% - do you think this is a bad indicator? For not the easiest living conditions? Preserving your language and identity? Having acquired your writing and educational opportunities? And the Chukchi have their own radio and newspapers, and they fully realize themselves in modern conditions. There has never been such a war as in the Caucasus, with mass destruction, there’s no reason to erect a slander.