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Fatah and Hamas in Moscow agreed on the establishment of a Palestinian government

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Without much news coverage in major media, a meeting was held between leaders of Palestinian political movements. We are talking about the leaders of Fatah and Hamas, who met in the Russian capital. During the conversation, the main issue on the agenda was discussed - the creation of a national unity government of Palestine. According to representatives of the movements, within two days after the meeting, a document with proposals for the creation of such a government will fall on the table of the head of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas.


In addition to the government of national unity, Fatah and Hamas are going to introduce their representatives to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). This is due to the fact that it is this organization that the Israeli authorities recognize as a party to the negotiations. Thus, Fatah and Hamas expect that when their representatives are included in the PLO, Israel will have no choice but to recognize the government of the national unity of Palestine. Do they share such logic in Israel?

During the meeting in Moscow, the leaders of Fatah and Hamas declared that the so-called quartet on the settlement of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict had not actually been working lately. The main reason Palestinian politicians called the fact that one of the representatives of this quartet - the United States - takes a pro-Israel stance even if this stance runs counter to the interests of a peaceful settlement. Here, the statements of the leaders of Fatah and Hamas are somewhat incompatible with reality. The fact is that quite recently the United States actually missed a resolution condemning the construction of Jewish settlements. Israeli authorities expressed outrage at the American position. True, no one imposed any sanctions on Israel for continuing the policy of building settlements.

Representatives of the Palestinian political forces Azzam al-Ahmad and Mustafa al-Barsugi met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

Fatah and Hamas in Moscow agreed on the establishment of a Palestinian government


It was noted that the Russian minister promised to initiate an international conference under the auspices of the UN to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict after the creation of a unified government of Palestine.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 17 January 2017 17: 56
    +9
    It was noted that the Russian minister promised to initiate an international conference under the auspices of the UN to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict after the creation of a unified government of Palestine.


    They have a difficult kneading there, but it must be solved and we can be good regulators.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 17 January 2017 17: 59
      +20
      It’s high time to adjust Israel.

      It was necessary to start after he began to treat the Ishilovites in his hospitals.

      Well, on the other hand, that it’s me - there bros in the east where you don’t spit - one blood - yes, maybe faith is different. therefore probably treat their brothers

      1. cniza
        cniza 17 January 2017 18: 03
        +7
        The fact of the matter is that they are one people who are divorced by faith and orthodox with fans from two sides.
        1. Cat
          Cat 17 January 2017 18: 13
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          The fact of the matter is that they are one people who are divorced by faith and orthodox with fans from two sides.

          Let's hope that at least somewhere they stop shooting!
          1. Monos
            Monos 17 January 2017 18: 53
            +5
            Quote: Kotischa
            Let's hope that at least somewhere they stop shooting!

            Ha ha ha ... Yes, they have been shooting there since Moses, and you hope to reconcile them.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 17 January 2017 20: 35
              +9
              Here, in my opinion, it is more complicated. At one time Yasser Arafat and his PLO were considered a terrorist organization in Israel, but legalized them gritting their teeth. Now Hamas and Fatah want to go there, i.e. get out of the underground and "legalize". But Bibi and the authorities are pursuing a "blood for blood" policy.
              Here the experience of the Russian Federation in Chechnya would be looked at. In fact, many were simply amnestied, the "militant" Kadyrov was imprisoned and everything was agreed. Then it was poured abundantly with "golden rain". And now we see only echoes, and the Kadyrovites are ready to beat the shaitans for Mother Russia anywhere. Bibi, as a strong man, could have taken similar steps long ago. For example, in Syria. Instead of helping the Barmaleevs to crush, and then somehow economically helping to show the Syrians (okay, this Assad, I mean for the people) normal neighborly relations. And then somehow the Russian Federation will come to an agreement with the Syrian authorities, we see a completely different policy. In my opinion, this is Bibi's mistake, he misses the chances that suddenly appeared with the arrival of the Russian Federation in the region. But the Palestinians and Kurds are trying to use this factor. hi
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 17 January 2017 20: 43
                +4
                By the way, in Afghanistan, the Taliban are taking steps to "legalize" themselves. For this, a representative office was opened in Qatar - they found a place, I must say, not very well. No. hi
                1. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 17 January 2017 22: 44
                  +3
                  Quote: Kasym
                  By the way, in Afghanistan, the Taliban are taking steps to "legalize" themselves. For this, a representative office was opened in Qatar - they found a place, I must say, not very well.

                  Why not really? In my opinion, everything is right. Qatar is the first ... to disgrace America, it may be so licked by the USA that the Taliban will be recognized.
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 17 January 2017 22: 46
                    +2
                    laughing But the USA does not solve problems. hi
                    1. Talgat
                      Talgat 18 January 2017 03: 41
                      +2
                      Yes, I understand. If you decide from the United States - then yes - open in Qatar

                      but in fact, a force has formed in the Middle East - the alliance of Iran of Russia and Syria to which Iraq has also joined and China supports

                      And for this force that the Taliban that Qatar that the Saudis all sound obscene
              2. OLD FART
                OLD FART 17 January 2017 20: 47
                0
                Quote: Kasym
                Here, in my opinion, it is more complicated. At one time Yasser Arafat and his PLO were considered a terrorist organization in Israel, but legalized them gritting their teeth. Now Hamas and Fatah want to go there, i.e. get out of the underground and "legalize". But Bibi and the authorities are pursuing a "blood for blood" policy.
                Here the experience of the Russian Federation in Chechnya would be looked at. In fact, many were simply amnestied, the "militant" Kadyrov was imprisoned and everything was agreed. Then it was poured abundantly with "golden rain". And now we see only echoes, and the Kadyrovites are ready to beat the shaitans for Mother Russia anywhere. Bibi, as a strong man, could have taken similar steps long ago. For example, in Syria. Instead of helping the Barmaleevs to crush, and then somehow economically helping to show the Syrians (okay, this Assad, I mean for the people) normal neighborly relations. And then somehow the Russian Federation will come to an agreement with the Syrian authorities, we see a completely different policy. In my opinion, this is Bibi's mistake, he misses the chances that suddenly appeared with the arrival of the Russian Federation in the region. But the Palestinians and Kurds are trying to use this factor. hi

                Great comment Kasym ..! Simple, briefly intelligible ... hi I'm also trying to interpret this, but it may not be so clear ...
              3. Stanislas
                Stanislas 17 January 2017 23: 08
                0
                Quote: Kasym
                abundantly flooded with "golden rain"
                And it was impossible to write "helped to do everything better than it was before"? First, the ambiguity of the expression "pouring gold rain". And secondly, you envied them, or what?
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 17 January 2017 23: 49
                  +1
                  Stanislav, I had no bad thoughts. We are talking about the new Grozny and construction sites throughout Chechnya. You didn’t shed this "rain" anywhere, but in your region, in your country - I do not see anything wrong with something like that. after the war there. Presumably, the Chechens have understood that they will not be abandoned in trouble - the main thing is the people.
                  What do we envy? Here they were waiting for that hard times, they were deported to the Second World War in the Republic of Kazakhstan - the Republic of Kazakhstan for them, like a second home ... hi
                  The first house commissioned in Grozny after the war was called "Nazarbayevsky" - guess why.
              4. Arameev
                Arameev 18 January 2017 02: 49
                +3
                Quote: Kasym
                ... Here they would look at the experience of the Russian Federation in Chechnya. In fact, many were simply amnestied, the "militant" Kadyrov was imprisoned and everything was agreed upon. Then it was poured abundantly with "golden rain". ...

                everything is fine in your reasoning and wishes, but you (citing Chechnya and Kadyrov as an example) miss a very important point: Kadyrov today is probably the most ardent Russian patriot, in the good sense of the word. but neither the PLO, nor Fatah, nor even Hamas are ready to take such an important step as - officially recognize Israel’s right to exist and remove from its charters, the main goal of all three of them is to destroy the state of Israel. The PLO, for example, was supposed to do this immediately after signing the treaty in Oslo. already then! this was one of the conditions for the formation and recognition by Israel of the PA and the PLO as a political negotiating partner. Prior to the signing of the treaty, the PLO was considered a terrorist organization under Israeli law, but for the sake of the peace process, Israel excluded the PLO from the list of terrorists, recognized the PA and let Arafat and K into the territory of the PA. by the Arabs, nothing has been done in this direction so far. from the very beginning, they began to drag out time under various pretexts, and today there is no mention of this at all. personally, I’m finally unable to understand how you can negotiate with someone who aims at your destruction and not going abandon this goal ?! so .... Your comparison with Kadyrov of these ... two of your guests is completely irrelevant.
                PS By the way, if you are interested in the issue, read the donkey agreement. and immediately see who should do what. who did and who did nothing.
                1. Kasym
                  Kasym 18 January 2017 03: 07
                  +2
                  "Who seeks will always find".
                  Of course, it is "easy" for me to give advice from here. But in my humble opinion, the whole point is that no one wants to take the first, reciprocal steps. And that the barmaley in the Caucasus didn’t shout that they were being exterminated, they didn’t blow up houses and planes, they didn’t seize schools and theaters? But the Kremlin has found the strength to overstep all these acts and look at the situation "from above", in the future - this is what your authorities lack. hi
                  1. Arameev
                    Arameev 18 January 2017 03: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: Kasym
                    "Who seeks will always find".
                    Of course, it is "easy" for me to give advice from here. But in my humble opinion, the whole point is that no one wants to take the first, reciprocal steps. And that the barmaley in the Caucasus didn’t shout that they were being exterminated, they didn’t blow up houses and planes, they didn’t seize schools and theaters? But the Kremlin has found the strength to overstep all these acts and look at the situation "from above", in the future - this is what your authorities lack. hi

                    I absolutely agree that the first step should be taken. but ... how much can and should they be done?
                    and further . the impression is that neither Fatah nor Hamas needs peace. for a simple reason - now they are all pitied and all are helped. money flows to them without any effort on their part. and there is no responsibility and control even for spending money because of the "struggle". with the signing of the peace and the formation of the state - the rules of the game will change, the volume of responsibilities will increase incomparably !. they need it ?!
                2. Ivanov17
                  Ivanov17 18 January 2017 15: 21
                  +1
                  When you stop "wringing out" the territories and populating them with Arameevs and Atalephs, then dialogue is possible. Arrows "translate"
                  Quote: Arameev
                  Quote: Kasym
                  ... Here they would look at the experience of the Russian Federation in Chechnya. In fact, many were simply amnestied, the "militant" Kadyrov was imprisoned and everything was agreed upon. Then it was poured abundantly with "golden rain". ...

                  everything is fine in your reasoning and wishes, but you (citing Chechnya and Kadyrov as an example) miss a very important point: Kadyrov today is probably the most ardent Russian patriot, in the good sense of the word. but neither the PLO, nor Fatah, nor even Hamas are ready to take such an important step as - officially recognize Israel’s right to exist and remove from its charters, the main goal of all three of them is to destroy the state of Israel. The PLO, for example, was supposed to do this immediately after signing the treaty in Oslo. already then! this was one of the conditions for the formation and recognition by Israel of the PA and the PLO as a political negotiating partner. Prior to the signing of the treaty, the PLO was considered a terrorist organization under Israeli law, but for the sake of the peace process, Israel excluded the PLO from the list of terrorists, recognized the PA and let Arafat and K into the territory of the PA. by the Arabs, nothing has been done in this direction so far. from the very beginning, they began to drag out time under various pretexts, and today there is no mention of this at all. personally, I’m finally unable to understand how you can negotiate with someone who aims at your destruction and not going abandon this goal ?! so .... Your comparison with Kadyrov of these ... two of your guests is completely irrelevant.
                  PS By the way, if you are interested in the issue, read the donkey agreement. and immediately see who should do what. who did and who did nothing.
                  1. Arameev
                    Arameev 18 January 2017 16: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: ivanov17
                    When you stop "wringing out" the territories and populating them with Arameevs and Atalephs, then dialogue is possible. Arrows "translate"

                    when you learn to fulfill the promise of the contract, remember your own actions, take into account the interests of others and not give out lies as truth, then it will be possible with whom to conduct a dialogue. this applies both to the Palestinian Arabs themselves and (in part) to their ... supporters. laughing
                    1. Ivanov17
                      Ivanov17 18 January 2017 17: 33
                      0
                      you wrote it to yourself for sure. Supporters in general are you. Most of all, shout about independence. But keep on American and German money. Germany paid you up to 40% of its budget in some years
                      Quote: Arameev
                      Quote: ivanov17
                      When you stop "wringing out" the territories and populating them with Arameevs and Atalephs, then dialogue is possible. Arrows "translate"

                      when you learn to fulfill the promise of the contract, remember your own actions, take into account the interests of others and not give out lies as truth, then it will be possible with whom to conduct a dialogue. this applies both to the Palestinian Arabs themselves and (in part) to their ... supporters. laughing
                      1. Arameev
                        Arameev 18 January 2017 17: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: ivanov17
                        you wrote it to yourself for sure. Supporters are generally you. Most of all shout about independence. But keep on American and German money. In Germany, you paid up to 40% of your budget in some years

                        )))) supportants are those who support someone. in any case, I meant exactly this and this is clear from the context. learn to understand the interlocutor finally, and not think out for him what he did not say)
                        40% - this is certainly great!)))) I haven’t seen such a thing here yet))))
              5. Ivanov17
                Ivanov17 18 January 2017 18: 03
                0
                Hamas actually created Israel. Chechnya is the territory of the Russian Federation, and Palestine is a foreign country and occupied by Israel for Israel. That's the whole difference
                Quote: Kasym
                Here, in my opinion, it is more complicated. At one time Yasser Arafat and his PLO were considered a terrorist organization in Israel, but legalized them gritting their teeth. Now Hamas and Fatah want to go there, i.e. get out of the underground and "legalize". But Bibi and the authorities are pursuing a "blood for blood" policy.
                Here the experience of the Russian Federation in Chechnya would be looked at. In fact, many were simply amnestied, the "militant" Kadyrov was imprisoned and everything was agreed. Then it was poured abundantly with "golden rain". And now we see only echoes, and the Kadyrovites are ready to beat the shaitans for Mother Russia anywhere. Bibi, as a strong man, could have taken similar steps long ago. For example, in Syria. Instead of helping the Barmaleevs to crush, and then somehow economically helping to show the Syrians (okay, this Assad, I mean for the people) normal neighborly relations. And then somehow the Russian Federation will come to an agreement with the Syrian authorities, we see a completely different policy. In my opinion, this is Bibi's mistake, he misses the chances that suddenly appeared with the arrival of the Russian Federation in the region. But the Palestinians and Kurds are trying to use this factor. hi
                1. Arameev
                  Arameev 18 January 2017 23: 13
                  0
                  Quote: ivanov17
                  Hamas actually created Israel. Chechnya is the territory of the Russian Federation, and Palestine is a foreign country and occupied by Israel for Israel. That's the whole difference
                  what nonsense! and this person allows himself to categorically judge and preach ...))) even the wiki says: “The Hamas movement was founded on December 14 or 15, 1987, shortly after the start of the First Palestinian Intifada, on the basis of the branches of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the Gaza Strip, recognized as terrorist organizations in several countries. " Israel simply did not interfere with creation. but was in no way among the creators ...
                  as for the "foreign country of Palestine", there has never been such a country. there is a place called Palestine. just like the Urals, Primorye or Baltic states. Chechnya (not as the name of the republic, but as the name of the place where the Vainakhs lived) also appeared before it became part of Russia, but this did not prevent it from becoming part of the Russian Federation over time.
            2. Ivanov17
              Ivanov17 18 January 2017 18: 06
              0
              They have been shooting since the 20s, and not since the time of Moses. When the Zionists began to populate Palestine with "newcomers" and buy up land there with Rothschild's money. While Palestine was with the Turks, the Zionists were shown a "cookie"
              Quote: Monos
              Quote: Kotischa
              Let's hope that at least somewhere they stop shooting!

              Ha ha ha ... Yes, they have been shooting there since Moses, and you hope to reconcile them.
              1. Monos
                Monos 18 January 2017 18: 14
                +4
                Quote: ivanov17
                Shoot from the 20 of the last century, and not from the time of Moses.

                Read the Old Testament. winked When you read at least "Exodus", then we'll talk. They talk about the Zionists here ...
              2. Arameev
                Arameev 18 January 2017 23: 28
                0
                Quote: ivanov17
                .... While Palestine was with the Turks, the Zionists were shown a "fig" there
                ha ....... again a finger to the sky! the same wiki says: "... the first big wave of modern repatriation of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, called the First Aliyah, is associated with Zionism and with the wave of Jewish pogroms of 1882 that swept the Russian Empire and took place from 1882 to 1903 .... "
          2. Ivanov17
            Ivanov17 18 January 2017 15: 19
            +1
            The fact of the matter is that the conflict has a religious color and, first of all, thanks to Israel
            Quote: Kotischa
            Quote: cniza
            The fact of the matter is that they are one people who are divorced by faith and orthodox with fans from two sides.

            Let's hope that at least somewhere they stop shooting!
            1. Arameev
              Arameev 18 January 2017 16: 53
              0
              Quote: ivanov17
              The fact of the matter is that the conflict has a religious color and, first of all, thanks to Israel
              be honest. )) The conflict has a religious color, like all conflicts involving Muslims and, first of all, due to the denial by the Arabs of Israel's right to exist.
              1. Ivanov17
                Ivanov17 18 January 2017 17: 23
                0
                stories about the return of ancestors to the land, your Zionists began, referring to the Torah, and everyone lived together peacefully. Return the land to people in Palestine and live in peace, Mr. Arameev. Or ask the Germans for land from the Americans. There are a lot of land in Alaska. What about Palestine clung to?
                Quote: Arameev
                Quote: ivanov17
                The fact of the matter is that the conflict has a religious color and, first of all, thanks to Israel
                be honest. )) The conflict has a religious color, like all conflicts involving Muslims and, first of all, due to the denial by the Arabs of Israel's right to exist.
                1. Arameev
                  Arameev 18 January 2017 17: 39
                  0
                  Quote: ivanov17
                  stories about the return of ancestors to the land, your Zionists began, referring to the Torah, and everyone lived together peacefully. Return the land to people in Palestine and live in peace, Mr. Arameev. Or ask the Germans for land from the Americans. There are a lot of land in Alaska. What about Palestine clung to?

                  it is for you - stories, and for the Jews - this is the history of the people. it is precisely because of such an attitude towards history that your blood is pouring. no one took land from people in Palestine. just as I did not take the land from people in the national regions of the Russian Federation, you are our defender of the oppressed)))
                  1. Ivanov17
                    Ivanov17 18 January 2017 18: 51
                    0
                    What people? Specify. I was born and raised in Kazakhstan, my ancestors were born here. Your ancestors were not born in Palestine, but were born somewhere in Gomel, or in Tashkent. Then there were two microscopic states: Jerusalem and Judaic, the size much smaller than today's Israel. The Jews were scattered because of their "falling into paganism" and because of their opposition to God, for the murder of the prophets. And you are forbidden to have your state, if it is secular, you must live in peace with your neighbors, and at the same time it is forbidden have their own army. But none of this is not. Quite the opposite. And these are the requirements of the Talmud. You never know who lived there two thousand years ago.
                    Quote: Arameev
                    Quote: ivanov17
                    stories about the return of ancestors to the land, your Zionists began, referring to the Torah, and everyone lived together peacefully. Return the land to people in Palestine and live in peace, Mr. Arameev. Or ask the Germans for land from the Americans. There are a lot of land in Alaska. What about Palestine clung to?

                    it is for you - stories, and for the Jews - this is the history of the people. it is precisely because of such an attitude towards history that your blood is pouring. no one took land from people in Palestine. just as I did not take the land from people in the national regions of the Russian Federation, you are our defender of the oppressed)))
                    1. Arameev
                      Arameev 18 January 2017 23: 43
                      0
                      Quote: ivanov17
                      What people? Specify. I was born and raised in Kazakhstan, my ancestors were born here. Your ancestors were not born in Palestine, but were born somewhere in Gomel, or in Tashkent. Then there were two microscopic states: Jerusalem and Judaic, the size much smaller than today's Israel. The Jews were scattered because of their "falling into paganism" and because of their opposition to God, for the murder of the prophets. And you are forbidden to have your state, if it is secular, you must live in peace with your neighbors, and at the same time it is forbidden have their own army. But none of this is not. Quite the opposite. And these are the requirements of the Talmud. You never know who lived there two thousand years ago.

                      of the Jewish people. for your information, the territory of the Ancient, as you say - microscopic, Israel, included all of modern Israel, northern and central part of modern Jordan, southern parts of modern Syria and modern Lebanon. so Ancient Israel was not microscopic at all and this is not disputed even by the Arabs themselves. today no one claims to the entire ancient territory. As for the Talmud and two thousand years ... you again judge by some of your own lack of knowledge and criteria. Did you hold the Talmud in your hands in order to talk about what it "demands"? ))))
        2. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 17 January 2017 18: 18
          +8
          Quote: cniza
          The fact of the matter is that they are one people who are divorced by faith and orthodox with fans from two sides.

          It will be difficult to figure out all this leapfrog ... Difficult - but possible!
          1. cniza
            cniza 17 January 2017 18: 21
            +7
            The Middle East has always been "ours" and we knew how to reconcile them.
            1. teder
              teder 17 January 2017 18: 22
              +6
              Quote: cniza
              The Middle East has always been "ours" and we knew how to reconcile them.

              Who with whom?
              Can I have an example?
            2. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 17 January 2017 18: 28
              +9
              It's time to remember and revive!
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 January 2017 18: 43
                +5
                Again in a terrorist guano somersault for the sake of imaginary foreign policy preferences?
                What is the point?
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 17 January 2017 18: 48
                  +8
                  Quote: Spade
                  Again in a terrorist guano somersault for the sake of imaginary foreign policy preferences?
                  What is the point?

                  Why - "imaginary"? Is it pointless to create a precedent in the region in the style of "not all mattresses are carnival"?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 January 2017 18: 53
                    +2
                    And what kind of preference? Grateful for the support of the Palestinians will come to us in Chechnya again to shoot at us?

                    Riding the American rake is, of course, fun. But all their contacts with "their" terrorists ALWAYS poured into the corpses of US citizens. Starting from September 11 and ending with those killed in Mosul.
                    All those terrorist groups that they supported, in the end, with a hundredfold "thanked" them for their support. From al-Qaeda to IS.
                    1. bouncyhunter
                      bouncyhunter 17 January 2017 19: 00
                      +8
                      Yes, I do not urge to become like the USA and dance on their rake! What is the only line of behavior demonstrated by the American administration over the past decades? There is always an alternative. But someone does not want to look for him, but someone simply does not need him ...
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 17 January 2017 19: 12
                        +4
                        The only correct line of behavior is to have nothing to do with terrorists. Even if it will give some preferences in the short term. For the long-term perspective is the same: "in gratitude" they will shoot at us. Well, or blow it up.
        3. tihiy
          tihiy 17 January 2017 21: 41
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          The fact of the matter is that they are one people who are divorced by faith and orthodox with fans from two sides.

          one, almost equal ... equal, even, but some are more equal than others.
          or cunning (opei)
      2. tihiy
        tihiy 17 January 2017 21: 38
        +1
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        It’s high time to adjust Israel.
        It was necessary to start after he began to treat the Ishilovites in his hospitals.


        Well, right now, the "chosen of God" will scream all over the Universe ...))
    2. OLD FART
      OLD FART 17 January 2017 18: 09
      +7
      Quote: cniza
      They have a difficult kneading there, but it must be solved and we can be good regulators.

      They said everything correctly, we will help to solve these problems .. Israel clearly does not want to change their positions and, worse, constantly shoots in the back .. We will decide, as we consider it necessary .. Let them not be offended then and do not whine ..
      1. teder
        teder 17 January 2017 18: 12
        +1
        Quote: STARPER
        Let not be offended then and do not whine ..

        Palestinians and do not whine? And then where is the money from?
    3. teder
      teder 17 January 2017 18: 10
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      It was noted that the Russian minister promised to initiate an international conference under the auspices of the UN to resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict after the creation of a unified government of Palestine.


      They have a difficult kneading there, but it must be solved and we can be good regulators.

      this is probably the fifteenth time they agree
      Main article: Fatah and Hamas conflict
      The Gaza Strip has been under the control of Hamas since 2007 after the victory of representatives of this movement in the elections in 2006 and the ensuing conflict with the Fatah movement. As a result of the conflict, the Palestinian Authority was actually divided into two parts - the Gaza Strip, which is controlled by Hamas, and the West Bank, where power is vested in the Fatah movement. During the conflict between Fatah and Hamas, agreements have been concluded several times to end the confrontation:

      Agreement Date Place of Conclusion Sources Notes
      February 8, 2007 Mecca [1]
      May 4, 2011 Cairo [2]
      February 7, 2012 Doha [3]
      May 20, 2012 Cairo [4]

      On May 3, 2011, an agreement on inter-Palestinian reconciliation was signed in Cairo, in which Fatah and Hamas functionaries and representatives of 11 other political movements and PNA groups took part.

      The peace agreement between Fatah and Hamas was signed on April 23, 2014. ...

      Negotiations in Gaza April 22, 2014
      The warring Palestinian movements of Fatah and Hamas reached an agreement on the formation of a single transitional government in the next five weeks


      06.02.2012
      Fatah and Hamas agree on a transitional government
      Palestinian leaders Fatah and Hamas have signed an agreement to create a joint transitional government.

      March 28 2016
      On the morning of Monday, March 28, a member of the Fatah central committee, Muhammad Eshtiya, announced that agreements had been reached in the Doha talks on reconciliation with the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas).

      According to Estia, an agreement will be reached on the creation of a government of national unity

      Well, we arrived, got PR, grandmothers as always begged --- to return home, cut off the throat of each other, accuse Israel and again on a world tour for the dough.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 17 January 2017 18: 16
        +5
        accused Israel


        which, well, nothing at all here) accidentally turned out to be


        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 January 2017 18: 45
          +5
          Well, yes.
          If anyone forced Hamas fighters to transport the corpses of the Fatah soldiers they had killed on the cables for motorcycles in the Gaza Strip, then this was definitely not Israel.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 17 January 2017 18: 14
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      They have a difficult kneading there, but it must be solved and we can be good regulators.

      We cannot be regulators in this matter at all. In Palestine, the problems of the whole region converge, ranging from religious differences and ending with problems with water sources. They will have to put pressure not only on dissenting Israel, but also on the Palestinians themselves, there corruption is worse than in Ukraine.
  2. jovanni
    jovanni 17 January 2017 18: 16
    +3
    ABOUT! Well, finally agreed again. And who was appointed Arafat?
  3. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 17 January 2017 18: 17
    +4
    None of this will work, two spiders in one bank will never get along .... and Jews will not give ....
    1. teder
      teder 17 January 2017 18: 26
      +1
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      None of this will work, two spiders in one bank will never get along .... and Jews will not give ....

      Well, somehow no one bothers them to make peace.
      Well, except for blood feud
      a military conflict between Hamas and Fatah organizations from June 7 to June 15, 2007 in the Gaza Strip. This led to Hamas gaining full control of the Gaza Strip, after most Fatah activists were ousted from it.

      According to estimates by the International Committee of the Red Cross, at least 118 people were killed and more than 550 injured during the weekly fighting.
      Human Rights Watch accuses both parties of violating international humanitarian law, which in some cases may amount to war crimes [5]. Accusations include: assaults and killings of civilians, nexecution of political opponents and prisoners, dropping prisoners from the roofs and apartments of high-rise buildings, fighting in hospitals, shooting from cars
  4. Operator
    Operator 17 January 2017 18: 19
    +2
    Saudis and Qatari should start financing the state of Palestine instead of the state of the Caliphate.

    And we will help them make the right choice.
    1. cap
      cap 17 January 2017 18: 26
      0
      Quote: Operator
      Saudis and Qatari should start financing the state of Palestine instead of the state of the Caliphate.

      And we will help them make the right choice.


      This is an ideal option from a series of impossible. Help then help and who agrees.
      Nobody will give up "their" interests.
    2. OLD FART
      OLD FART 17 January 2017 18: 30
      +2
      Quote: Operator
      Saudis and Qatari should start financing the state of Palestine instead of the state of the Caliphate.
      And we will help them make the right choice.

      A good option and very much ... the United States seems to be dumping from the Middle East, we will set conditions there now. I hope Arafat is smiling at Allah and is waving his head at us)))) bully
      1. Skeptic Self-Taught
        Skeptic Self-Taught 17 January 2017 18: 35
        +7
        US dumped from the Middle East ...
        Starper - are you drunk?
        Those. US dumped on oil.
        Well done ...
        Where are they still dumping? Does the USA know about this decision of yours?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 17 January 2017 18: 38
          +1
          they’ll dump oil from vryatli - this is the basis of the well-being of the buck.

          As if to us for oil did not fill up. For the Russian Federation is already extracting most of all taken separately and this was not so, most recently

          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 17 January 2017 19: 02
            0
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            As if to us for oil did not fill up.

            To "you" is this to whom? Do you have oil? laughing But seriously, some were here ... Long list ... hi
        2. OLD FART
          OLD FART 17 January 2017 18: 47
          +3
          Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
          Starper - are you drunk?

          Stop squealing ... Tired already, now the whole gang will catch up .. bully
          Screwed up the United States in the Middle East and a long time ago ... Hello Obama!
          1. Skeptic Self-Taught
            Skeptic Self-Taught 17 January 2017 18: 49
            +3
            Hi, I’m sure to ...
            Now I’ll visit you in the hospital, and I’ll go to the minibus - maybe it will take me ...
            US screw up so what? Is that a reason to leave? You yourself do not write nonsense here ...
            US Volunteer will not go out of nowhere ... only if they kick out, like Vietnam ...
            There is NO such thing in the Middle East.
        3. padded jacket
          padded jacket 17 January 2017 20: 27
          +1
          Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
          Those. US dumped on oil.

          In general, the US regime has long been in the FIRST or SECOND place in the WORLD in OIL PRODUCTION.
          World oil production table 2015

          For 2016, apparently there is still no data, no numbers smile
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 17 January 2017 18: 47
        +6
        Quote: STARPER

        A good option and very much ... the United States seems to be dumping from the Middle East, we will set conditions there now. I hope Arafat is smiling at Allah and is waving his head at us)))) bully

        Ooh-ho.
      3. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 17 January 2017 18: 59
        0
        Quote: STARPER
        Arafat I hope Allah smiles and waves his head at us))))

        Which head?
      4. padded jacket
        padded jacket 17 January 2017 20: 20
        +3
        Quote: STARPER
        A good option and very

        In general, it would have long been necessary to divide the territory of present-day Israel into two parts into Jewish Israel and Arab Palestine as it was planned from the very beginning, and let the Jews and Palestinians continue in their "works and concerns" smile build states of neighbors Yes, and the Palestinians need to be armed so that they, one on one, "do not remain with the aggressive and unpredictable Tel Aviv regime.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 17 January 2017 21: 22
          +2
          Yeah, it was already like that in 1948. Everything as you said. Only the Jews then hung to the wild Palestinians (what a word, they are the most ordinary, naked Arabs), it’s a pity not to everyone and not always. They showed peace.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 17 January 2017 22: 30
            +1
            Quote: Maksus
            Yeah, it was already in 1948m

            Then there was a slightly different one, just the Arabs were indignant - Why did some immigrants give Jews from Europe our land But then, thanks to help from abroad, the Jews won by occupying part of the Arab lands and then during the next war (incidentally unleashed by Israel in 1967) captured the rest of the land Palestine
            So now it's time to divide this aggressive territorial entity called Israel
            1. Maksus
              Maksus 17 January 2017 23: 31
              +1
              Oh, got it. You have a hard time with causation. Arabs attacked, Jews broke them and more than once. So, according to the results of the war, they should return everything? Some nonsense.
              Then we need to return Kaliningrad to the Germans, and Vyborg to the Swedes. Figle, they occupied ...
              P.S. Look at what the Jews have done to Israel over 60 years and to the naughty neighbors who have done nothing. Maybe you need to change allies?
            2. Moryarty
              Moryarty 17 January 2017 23: 42
              0
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: Maksus
              Yeah, it was already in 1948m

              Then there was a slightly different one, just the Arabs were indignant - Why did some immigrants give Jews from Europe our land But then, thanks to help from abroad, the Jews won by occupying part of the Arab lands and then during the next war (incidentally unleashed by Israel in 1967) captured the rest of the land Palestine
              So now it's time to divide this aggressive territorial entity called Israel

              The Palestinians were offered this section even after 48, but they never agreed. And why should they give the state if Hamas and Fatah cannot agree. In addition, there is the sad experience of the Gaza Strip. Here is what the Arabs themselves think about it:
              According to the opinion of an Arab journalist from the West Bank. Jordan H. Jaralla: “Palestinians could build one of the best economies in the region after the start of the peace process in 1993. But instead of using the billions of dollars that Americans and Europeans gave them to create new jobs, the PLO leadership stole most of the funds, and later accused Israel of destroying the Palestinian economy. Suicide bombings and financial and administrative corruption are the main reason why the Palestinian economy remains as weak as ever. The Palestinians are experts in shooting themselves in the foot, and then blame Israel. ” And why another semblance of Gaza?
              And what is Israel aggressive about? That responds to the shelling of their territories? If you are talking about aggression, then the Palestinians are much more dangerous aggressors, since they regularly shoot at Israel and carry out terrorist attacks.
  5. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 17 January 2017 18: 33
    +7
    Yeah right now! !! Will you still Israel lands with someone shares fool In Tel Aviv, they sleep and do not see a planetary state called Israel! belay So now the inhabitants of the promised land will explain that the Palestinians were not here, and in general, the whole world is Israel and the people in it are Jews! !! belay
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 17 January 2017 18: 53
      +2
      Quote: Expelling Liberoids
      Yeah right now! !! Will you still Israel lands with someone shares fool In Tel Aviv, they sleep and do not see a planetary state called Israel! belay So now the inhabitants of the promised land will explain that the Palestinians were not here, and in general, the whole world is Israel and the people in it are Jews! !! belay

      We will explain, first, restrained and polite ... And then how it will turn out (most likely the latter, judging by our site ..))))
      1. Skeptic Self-Taught
        Skeptic Self-Taught 17 January 2017 20: 36
        +3
        Trump again with what you do not have? Explainer that does not fall off?
        Starper, sober up ... grab a blizzard ...
    2. Maksus
      Maksus 17 January 2017 21: 23
      +1
      The first person was Adam, he was a Jew - therefore, we are all Jews.
      1. shalomnet
        shalomnet 17 January 2017 22: 13
        +1
        Quote: Maksus
        The first person was Adam, he was a Jew - therefore, we are all Jews.


        The first person was Adam. With a capital letter. There are sons of Adam, but there are ... those who descended from monkeys. hi
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 17 January 2017 23: 33
          0
          This is for Obama, his relatives have so far only got rid of wool.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 17 January 2017 22: 24
        0
        Quote: Maksus
        The first person was Adam, he was a Jew

        Well, are you nonsense of the chosen ones or something? lol
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 17 January 2017 22: 29
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: Maksus
          The first person was Adam, he was a Jew

          Well, are you nonsense of the chosen ones or something? lol

          You definitely aren't, you are a werewolf.
        2. Maksus
          Maksus 17 January 2017 23: 33
          0
          Have you read the Bible? Specifically that part of it called the "Old Testament"? He is one to one with the Pentateuch written off. Something like this.
      3. Stanislas
        Stanislas 17 January 2017 23: 25
        0
        Quote: Maksus
        adam he was a jew
        Certainly not confused with Abraham?
      4. Hello
        Hello 17 January 2017 23: 42
        +1
        Quote: Maksus
        The first person was Adam, he was a Jew - therefore, we are all Jews.

        And Eva is Ukrainian yeah wassat , the first self-proclaimed Jew, Abraham wink
  6. Lopatov
    Lopatov 17 January 2017 18: 41
    +3
    Cool.
    And where is the obligatory "prohibited in Russia" ???

    It should be like this: "Fatah and the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood (HAMAS) banned in Russia in Moscow agreed to establish a Palestinian government"
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 17 January 2017 18: 48
      +6
      Quote: Spade

      It should be like this: "Fatah and the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood (HAMAS) banned in Russia in Moscow agreed to establish a Palestinian government"

      Selective Vision. This is normal in politics.
  7. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 17 January 2017 18: 50
    +3
    We must be friends with Israel against these guys. I do not trust them! They will hand over us with giblets, when they will at least feel the benefits!
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 17 January 2017 19: 08
      +6
      Quote: KVashentcev
      They will hand over us with giblets, when they will at least feel the profit!

      With Israel, the same nonsense. That’s exactly the same!
    2. Ivanov17
      Ivanov17 18 January 2017 18: 00
      0
      So make friends with Solovyov and Satanovsky, Eskin and Lieberman. Better just go to Israel. There you will definitely be surrendered by your "allies"
      Quote: KVashentcev
      We must be friends with Israel against these guys. I do not trust them! They will hand over us with giblets, when they will at least feel the benefits!
  8. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 17 January 2017 18: 57
    +5
    Moscow loves to cuddle with terrorists, rub their cheeks lol
    And those, in turn, go to their home.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 January 2017 19: 14
      +9
      At least we do not treat them, like some ...
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 17 January 2017 19: 26
        +6
        Quote: Spade
        At least we do not treat them, like some ...

        Ha ha ha .. Bravo Shovels, perfectly pricked .. !!!! I remembered their comments about the treatment ... laughing laughing They still called me to themselves, right now ...))) I can’t laugh all! Well frames are incorrigible ..
      2. Professor
        Professor 17 January 2017 21: 04
        +3
        Quote: Spade
        At least we do not treat them, like some ...

        Do you shoot wounded terrorists? I do not believe. Treat of course. Otherwise, the Hague and all the charms.

        PS
        The unnamed author of the article forgot to mention another participant. Islamic Jihad. Lavrov also called him "our friend".
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 17 January 2017 22: 40
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Do you shoot wounded terrorists?

          We are destroying terrorists in Syria by helping the legitimate government of Israel. Israel treats and attacks terrorists in the Syrian army.
          So look who is the enemy of terrorists and who is the friend of terrorists.
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 17 January 2017 19: 23
      +2
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Moscow loves to cuddle with terrorists, rub their cheeks

      They are rebels.
      1. taypan
        taypan 17 January 2017 19: 26
        +1
        Well, I do not like Mozart! Why?
        Yes, Rabinovich sang it to me. Here is the same thing.
    3. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 17 January 2017 19: 58
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Moscow loves to cuddle with terrorists, rub their cheeks lol
      And those, in turn, go to their home.

      I won’t even refute it.
      Both Israelis and Americans have already been to Moscow ...
    4. Vita vko
      Vita vko 17 January 2017 20: 18
      +1
      A worthy response to Israeli shelling of Syrian airfields and aiding terrorists.
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 17 January 2017 20: 57
        +1
        Quote: Vita VKO
        A worthy response to Israeli shelling of Syrian airfields and aiding terrorists.

        I am sure Russia will bring peace and stability to the Middle East, it will be difficult, but here is a matter of principle .. Or are we not Russians? They still remember us with a kind word, but they still respect STRENGTH and Russia will definitely show it! I hope the gentlemen understood the hint ...? negative
    5. Duyv
      Duyv 17 January 2017 22: 21
      0
      If there is a chance - that they will cease to shoot each other and in Israel in the street to wave knives, why not try? And then our tourists will go to you and, in a larger quantity than before, you have a gesheft;) Why such pessimism?
    6. Stanislas
      Stanislas 17 January 2017 23: 29
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      And those, in turn, go to their home.
      From Israeli clinics with fake passports right to us?
      1. Duyv
        Duyv 17 January 2017 23: 45
        0
        And my former colleagues will follow this. Do you think you don’t go from other clinics or haven’t traveled before?
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 19 January 2017 11: 55
          0
          Quote: DuYV
          You think from other clinics do not go
          I think that Israel today maintains a constant conflict in the BV, and soon they can get the support of Trump if he breaks the agreement with Iran. Then Syria, in turn, may seem like paradise in which the wolf lived next to the lamb. Other clinics are out of the question, but where are they going to go? Maybe in Turkey at least a little blocked.
  9. Mordvin
    Mordvin 17 January 2017 19: 30
    +2
    Quote: Rabinovich
    Moscow loves to cuddle with terrorists,

    Not more than everyone else.
  10. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 17 January 2017 20: 14
    +3
    Quote: Spade
    At least we do not treat them, like some ...

    And it would be necessary.
    And you will be treated, and you will be treated ... laughing
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 17 January 2017 22: 44
      +1
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Quote: Spade
      At least we do not treat them, like some ...

      And it would be necessary.
      And you will be treated, and you will be treated ... laughing

      Joke and heal as much as you like, Mr. Rabinovich, this is not the question, the question is that after the cure you forget to put ISIS members in prison! - "Terrorism has no nationality or religion" - right?
  11. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 17 January 2017 21: 08
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Again in a terrorist guano somersault for the sake of imaginary foreign policy preferences?
    What is the point?

    But the point is that if next to Russia it’s quietly peaceful and no one shoots, then it’s easier for us to live and drive less money into our own security. soldier
    1. shalomnet
      shalomnet 17 January 2017 22: 15
      +1
      Quote: Vlad5307
      Quote: Spade
      Again in a terrorist guano somersault for the sake of imaginary foreign policy preferences?
      What is the point?

      But the point is that if next to Russia it’s quietly peaceful and no one shoots, then it’s easier for us to live and drive less money into our own security. soldier


      Tel Aviv is far from Moscow ...
  12. VadimSt
    VadimSt 17 January 2017 22: 26
    0
    "And Vaska listens, but eats" - Russia has indeed returned to the Middle East!
  13. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 17 January 2017 23: 09
    +2
    Quote: Dym71
    Joke and heal as much as you like, Mr. Rabinovich, this is not the question, the question is that after the cure you forget to put ISIS members in prison! - "Terrorism has no nationality or religion" - right?


    Honestly, I don’t know who we are treating. Somehow they showed a report on Russian TV for a long time, I don’t remember which channel Russia seems to be. There were children and adults who were severely crippled who were brought to the border of Israel asking for help. Unarmed. Well, they were treated like these, but what had to be done? I don’t know anything about this.

    Another thing is to kiss terrorists in the Kremlin.
    Well, of course there are people who do not like Jews, I can imagine that. (anti-Semites, fascists)
    Hamas handing out candy in Gaza after the attacks. But here, too, Russians are dying, like tourists there and residents with a Russian passport. It turns out that they (anti-Semites) support the murder of their own citizens. From this I conclude that those who support Hamas and others are not Russians at all. These are most likely Dagestanis, Chechens and other Muslims. Because the Russians do not have such qualities.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 18 January 2017 00: 14
      +3
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Somehow they showed a report on Russian TV for a long time, I don’t remember which channel Russia seems to be. There were children and adults who were severely crippled who were brought to the border of Israel asking for help. Unarmed. Well, they were treated like these, but what had to be done?

      Were these children reporting on the Russia Channel ?:

      Moreover, note that I understand that treatment before prison is a must!
      However, the inevitability of punishment for offenses is a factor in reducing crime, I think right, Mr. Rabinovich?
    2. taypan
      taypan 18 January 2017 07: 32
      0
      Now I don't like Caruso! Why? Yes, Rabinovich sang it to me. Rabinovich, why do you think that the Russians do not have such qualities? But I know that the Russian people have a genetic memory, for example, about the Khazars. Yes, and why are you offended when the Russians call you?
  14. BABA SHURA
    BABA SHURA 17 January 2017 23: 33
    +2
    Trebid Jews zhidchuyu and kharchi last.
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 January 2017 23: 45
    +3
    By the way, there are not only Fatah and Hamas. Do not forget to invite Islamic Jihad smile
    The largest gathering of Arab militants in Moscow since the time of Andropov.
  16. Hello
    Hello 17 January 2017 23: 47
    +3
    During the conversation, the main issue on the agenda was discussed - the creation of a Palestinian national unity government.

    In my memory, they have been discussing, declaring, and creating truth for the time being only on paper 3 times. In practice, the guys from Fatah have not lived in the Sector for a very long time, but it is extremely painful hi
  17. Moryarty
    Moryarty 17 January 2017 23: 49
    0
    Quote: from article
    According to representatives of the movements, within two days after the end of the meeting, a document with proposals for the creation of such a government will fall on the table of Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas.

    As always, idle chatter. These "governments" are constantly signing something, but they don't get it.
  18. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 18 January 2017 16: 11
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    Were these children reporting on the Russia Channel?


    I watched for a long time, I managed to find this report
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIar9DfyoOQ

    But the Russians are being treated, were they all arrested later?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHiXhVVzVjg
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 18 January 2017 19: 15
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      I watched for a long time, I managed to find this report
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIar9DfyoOQ

      In this video, Israel is at its best, respect and respect!
      Quote: Rabinovich
      But the Russians are being treated, were they all arrested later?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHiXhVVzVjg

      Watching this video, I tried very hard, but Mr. Rabinovich didn’t understand your sarcasm, because on the photo I posted earlier, your prime minister with an Ishilov’s handle, but who is the ISIS fighter?
  19. Ivanov17
    Ivanov17 18 January 2017 17: 57
    0
    Arameev,
    You probably never existed in the world when the Germans began to "repent" and, apart from the dough, supply equipment for your infrastructure. And what not to support. In Ukraine, your chiefs have also arranged a "happy" life for the population. But in Dnepropetrovsk, the synagogue "to heaven" has been built Kolomoisky
    Quote: Arameev
    Quote: ivanov17
    you wrote it to yourself for sure. Supporters are generally you. Most of all shout about independence. But keep on American and German money. In Germany, you paid up to 40% of your budget in some years

    )))) supportants are those who support someone. in any case, I meant exactly this and this is clear from the context. learn to understand the interlocutor finally, and not think out for him what he did not say)
    40% - this is certainly great!)))) I haven’t seen such a thing here yet))))
  20. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 18 January 2017 19: 22
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    on the photo I posted earlier, your prime minister with an igilov


    Why did you take that he is an igilovets? Here, through Google, he even introduced a search in the picture and brought out only news in Arabic that is not trusted. Do you get news about Israel from there? smile
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 18 January 2017 23: 27
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Do you get news about Israel from there?

      photo from here: http://www.voltairenet.org/article189411.html
      + article here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/W
      atch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save
      -islamic-militants-syrian-warzone-risking-lives-s
      worn-enemies.html
  21. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 19 January 2017 17: 03
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    photo from here

    I don’t read English, Google translated poorly. The first site about Israel contains some anti-Semitic news. Explicitly Muslim site. DJ the author designated a second link a certain one - jake wallis simons, it turns out he works in the BBC, and I don’t trust them either. The only channel you can listen to from the American is FoX.
    But if it’s true and they saved someone there, then I don’t like it. Surely this was not isolated cases. And it was hell knows when, and even it is not clear who these people are in the photo, they have written on their forehead that they are Igilovites? In the photo, the second link shows the baby and the parents, did they save one family? Is the child an igilovets?

    Enough to ascribe any nonsense to Israel.
    They all hate Israel, these Ishilovites and so on, no one would have sat next to the Israelis and asked for medical help. Moreover, there is no armed guard nearby.
    Stop already repeating
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 19 January 2017 17: 57
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      The first site about Israel contains some anti-Semitic news.

      Here I agree with you, I myself had the same impression, but I decided to post the link honestly, since I took the photo from there.
      Quote: Rabinovich
      In the second link, the author designated a certain one - jake wallis simons, it turns out he works in the BBC, and I also do not trust them.

      Link to the British Daily Mail, and they will not stupidly copy-paste the Air Force, will lose subscribers!
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Enough to ascribe any nonsense to Israel.

      Good idea! I wanted to write the same thing to you about Russia when I read your comment:
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Moscow loves to cuddle with terrorists, rub their cheeks
  22. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 19 January 2017 17: 21
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    a photo

    I can also bring a lot of things and photos, how do you like them? http://russiakills.com/ru/syria
    And there are many of them - http://apostrophe.ua/article/world/middle-east/20
    15-10-28 / pochemu-rossiya-zaschischaet-ubiytsu-ras
    skazyi-siriytsev-kotoryih-bombit-aviatsiya-putina
    final match.

    http://inosmi.ru/politic/20160121/235121895.html

    Will links be measured?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 19 January 2017 17: 46
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Will links be measured?

      We will not measure, but to answer questions, such as:
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Do you get news about Israel from there?

      will be. You asked, in response to your question, I posted two links from where I got the information and that's it. What are you mad at, Mr. Rabinovich? I consider ignoring the interlocutor’s question indecent behavior in communication and regard it as a recognition of the absence of arguments. hi
  23. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 19 January 2017 18: 02
    0
    Quote: Dym71
    where did you get the information and that's it

    Well, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic news around the world, do you propose to draw news about Russia from the Ukrainian media? We’ve gotten some kind of photograph in which it’s not clear who and what and when it was and all the media circulate it from hand to hand. Enemies must be on the alert. Especially around Israel. Are you a muslim man?
    Quote: Dym71
    You are angry, Mr. Rabinovich

    I just served myself and I know that everything is based here on kindness and understanding. And around talk about the bloody Jews who kill or treat all terrorists.
    Or offer to let yourself be killed? Then everything will be fine?
    All around are anti-Semites. Calm down only when all the Jews will lie in Babi Yar.
    Although no, they won’t calm down - they will defile the graves. But we will not give up.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 19 January 2017 18: 17
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      Well, there’s a lot of anti-Semitic news around the world, do you propose to draw news about Russia from the Ukrainian media?

      With a "cold" head and calculation (without emotion) information can be drawn from any source.
      Quote: Rabinovich
      You are Muslim?

      Orthodox. What are you interested in for? smile
      Quote: Rabinovich
      All around are anti-Semites.

      If by the word circle you mean geography, then this is an indisputable fact, but to absolutely yes, it is not. smile
  24. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 19 January 2017 19: 08
    0
    Quote: Dym71
    Orthodox

    Clear.

    These people who came to Moscow and with whom they are hugging kill Jews and not only then give out sweets and have a holiday after the attacks, who are they then?
    They kill me and my family.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 19 January 2017 20: 36
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      They kill me and my family.

      And why then are they still alive? According to your rules on mandatory retaliatory strikes - they are the walking dead and I do not believe that Israel does not have the opportunity to get close to them, I DO NOT BELIEVE! yes
      Fill these, Arabs will elect to the government the same, if not worse, you will not decide anything by force, you need to agree, although this is of course an ungrateful thing, but it is necessary!