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West: Russia intends to help weapons to opposition Libyan general

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The Western media reported that a decision was made in Russia to render assistance in supplying weapons for the Libyan general Khalif Haftar’s military units. Haftar is a man who visited Moscow last year during which he tried to negotiate military assistance from the Russian Defense Ministry in the fight against terrorism. For a long time, Moscow’s reaction to Huftar’s request, which was considered an opposition-oriented commander in relation to the pro-Western Cabinet in Tripoli, was not known.


West: Russia intends to help weapons to opposition Libyan general


It is noteworthy that the statements about Russia's readiness to deliver weapon Haftar, published in the British press - in particular, in The Times.
A British newspaper article states that Haftar is trying to circumvent the arms embargo with contacts with Russia, which the West has imposed on all those Libyan forces that are in opposition to the appointees of the West itself.

Earlier it became known that the Libyan General Khalif Havtar visited the Russian aircraft carrier “Admiral Kuznetsov”, which is currently making the transition from the shores of Syria to the basing station in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation.

This visit to the aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy, apparently, gave rise to the idea in the Western media that Russia is ready to provide armed units of Khaftar with Russian-made weapons. At the same time, it is also suggested that “instead of fighting terrorism, Haftar’s troops will concentrate on opposing the pro-Western government of Libya.”
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  1. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 17 January 2017 07: 15
    +6
    If still Gaddafi could be revived ..
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 17 January 2017 07: 35
      +10
      Gaddafi will not be returned, but it is necessary to look for allies with a view to the future, in such a region. We cannot be there forever and save Syria.
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 January 2017 07: 49
        +12
        Let the West go through the forest, we will do what is in our interests and the interests of Libya.
      2. vkfriendly
        vkfriendly 23 January 2017 11: 43
        0
        You are wrong, everything goes to the fact that we are there for a very long time, if not forever.
    2. Finches
      Finches 17 January 2017 08: 54
      +15
      East is a delicate matter! It will never be possible to create a model like a tolerant liberal "civil" society with obvious deviations in the field of forensic psychiatry - the image of a sun-like sultan, with a firm punishing hand ruled by the just Prophet himself - that's what the culture of the East has absorbed over the millennia! Only in this case there will be prosperity and order! At most, for the modern world it is a secular state, but with a touch of Sharia, in any other scenario - ISIS turns out to be either a total clan massacre with a complete impoverishment of the people, as in Afghanistan!
      1. INTA_VEGA
        INTA_VEGA 17 January 2017 13: 07
        +2
        You go overboard about the image of a "sun-like sultan, with a firm punishing hand ruled by the just Prophet himself."
        The same Gaddafi quite developed socialism with an emphasis on local government to build.
        Remember that the growth of Islamization in the Greater Middle East region began only in 60-70 g, with the collapse of the colonial system.
        and there was much more prosperity and order there than before the appearance of a whole swarm of "sun-like" sultanics.
        1. Finches
          Finches 17 January 2017 13: 33
          +2
          Naturally, he exaggerated a bit, for the brightness of the image! hi
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 17 January 2017 13: 07
      0
      This marshal with his own forces controls 70% of the territory of Libya.
    4. stas
      stas 17 January 2017 17: 40
      0
      If it weren’t, Gaddafi wagged too much in front of Europe,
      there will be an expansion of Russia's influence in Libya.
      Turkey will certainly interfere, but this is no longer important.
  2. ydjin
    ydjin 17 January 2017 07: 18
    +2
    Bullshit, I don’t think that Russia needs yet another point of clash with the West. It’s just probing our so-called partners.
    1. Thirteenth
      Thirteenth 17 January 2017 08: 54
      0
      Quote: ydjin
      Bullshit, I don’t think that Russia needs yet another point of clash with the West.


      But the West needs such points as air and the more the better.
  3. jovanni
    jovanni 17 January 2017 07: 32
    +1
    [quote] [/ quote] This visit to the aircraft carrier of the Russian Navy seems to have generated from the Western media the idea that Russia is ready to provide Haftar’s armed forces with Russian-made weapons.

    Deck fighters, mostly. In vain, did they show ...
  4. Altona
    Altona 17 January 2017 07: 34
    +6
    If the general can unite most of the tribes and fight, then you can probably help him with old weapons. Surely there are T-55 and T-62 in warehouses, AKM, old mines. The Libyan army was armed with old Soviet weapons.
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 17 January 2017 07: 53
      +2
      and french too
  5. Pit Bull59
    Pit Bull59 17 January 2017 07: 39
    +9
    Let them write what they want. That's why they are scribes to write ... On the shed X ... Y written, and there are firewood!
  6. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 17 January 2017 07: 46
    +7
    Haftar’s troops will focus on confronting the pro-Western Libyan government. ” So it needs to be supported. soldier
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 17 January 2017 08: 59
      +6
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      Haftar’s troops will focus on confronting the pro-Western Libyan government. ” So it needs to be supported. soldier

      Two questions always arise: What will Russia gain by supporting Haftar or what will it have, besides the vows of "friendship", and at whose expense the "banquet"? hi
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 17 January 2017 08: 59
      +2
      Haftar himself a former evil agent
  7. knn54
    knn54 17 January 2017 07: 50
    +2
    He believes that: "No dialogue with terrorism." Moreover, both with IS and with "Muslim brothers and others. But there is no guarantee that the Yankees will not again" intercept "...
  8. Iskander Sh
    Iskander Sh 17 January 2017 07: 51
    +4
    Apparently, this visit to the Russian Navy aircraft carrier gave rise to the idea of ​​Western media that Russia was ready to provide Haftar’s armed forces with Russian-made weapons.


    They started talking about this long before the visit by the aircraft carrier of Libya. I remember some articles that, against the backdrop of successes in Syria and Aleppo’s encirclement, Russia is probing the soil in Libya and is establishing contacts with former Gaddafi’s generals. There was even information that this comes from the filing of Egypt, which is not particularly pleased with the bandits sitting in Tripoli and is looking for allies to resolve the situation in Libya on its own rules.

    By the way there was an interesting article in the summer about that Italy and France are going to conduct a ground operation in Libya. The goal is to take control of ports, airports, major oil-producing and major Libyan oil pipelines.
  9. Stinger
    Stinger 17 January 2017 08: 16
    0
    statements about Russia's readiness to deliver weapons to Haftar are published in the British press - in particular, in The Times.

    The Times will not lie. She has long been deciding everything for Putin.
  10. Lelek
    Lelek 17 January 2017 08: 22
    +4
    (It is noteworthy that statements about Russia's readiness to deliver weapons to Haftar are published in the British press - in particular, in The Times.)

    "The Times" is a well-known maggot - an expert on rotten meat. But in this particular case (IMHO) the question arises - why not? The USSR and subsequently Russia always had "decent" relations with Libya, we had (and, I hope, remained) certain interests in this country. Therefore, it is not surprising that Russia is playing by its own rules in this region. It's time for the Englishwoman to learn this and take it for granted. yes
  11. wandlitz
    wandlitz 17 January 2017 08: 52
    +1
    West: Russia intends to help weapons to opposition Libyan general
    West of Russia "Don't dare to help the opposition forces with arms. This is only our right. We always do this" - IMHO, this is how you need to understand the howl of foreign media.
  12. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 17 January 2017 09: 03
    0
    Yes, to put with the device to the West and to train these vile bastards to reckon with Russia. Naturally, one does not need to rush headlong into unpromising adventures, but the West needs to indicate its place.
  13. donavi49
    donavi49 17 January 2017 09: 22
    +4
    Haftar is one of the leaders of the Revolution. Which made so that the Libyan army at one time deserted or sided with the revolutionaries. And he was very tied to the United States.

    Now he controls the east of the country, including Tobruk - where one of the Libyan governments is sitting. The battles are still behind Benghazi.

    On the other hand, revolutionaries are Misurat brigades and other Islamists. They washed down their Libyan Dawn, at one time knocked out Haftar from the capital - Tripoli, took the airport and most of the west of Libya. It was the war of Haftar and Dawn that led to violent Islamist sprouts on no man's land. The caliphate took Derna, Sirte, clung to Benghazi, in general, from 3,5 disabled people on Toyota, he turned into a force with thousands of fighters literally for 2-3 months of the active war of Haftar and Dawn.

    Against this backdrop, Haftar was harshly stopped by the EU and the US, as was Dawn. Now they have a shaky national truce. But both sides are actively building up their forces and are looking for weapons.
  14. Sergei64
    Sergei64 17 January 2017 09: 34
    0
    The Russian Federation came to this region to restore order as it was under the USSR, but partners came there and made a mess there. And you need help to quickly end the black plague of the XXI century. And power is not in arms but in truth, conscience, and honor.
  15. vladimirw
    vladimirw 17 January 2017 10: 06
    0
    it is necessary to do everything in the interests of the Russian Federation. Gaddafi all zebil leader with whom it was possible to agree
  16. Altona
    Altona 17 January 2017 10: 52
    0
    Quote: kapitan92
    Two questions always arise: What will Russia gain by supporting Haftar or what will it have, besides the vows of "friendship", and at whose expense the "banquet"?

    ---------------------------
    At least localize a new terrorist enclave in the Middle East with his hands, even with our weapons. Iron, and besides old, is still not people.
  17. Nitarius
    Nitarius 17 January 2017 11: 02
    0
    Well ... there is no smoke without fire! Even if something happens .. then we pay with the same coin as they are in Ukraine, in Yugoslavia, etc. Yes, and Libya must be returned to normal ... and the West with the people three skins tore!
  18. Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 17 January 2017 12: 33
    +1
    It is important to understand who Haftar is, what his past is, what his views and beliefs are, what powers and whose support he has. What, in the end, are his real chances to crush his opponents and establish his power throughout Libya, or at least over key positions in the struggle for it, how stable his power will be.
    I basically don’t know anything about him.
    For that I know that Libya is oil, gas and, surprisingly, water, for which Colonel Gaddafi had big plans. And it’s also a soft arm of Europe, through which the crowds of migrants, who are now terrorizing it, rod. To put a loyal person over this explosive mixture is a sweet deed. It would be more fun to directly throw the EU into a soup of nails with nuts ...
    And then, a holy place does not happen empty - if you don’t take it, others will take it. And an extra solvent buyer for armaments for the defense industry will not hurt.
    1. Moryarty
      Moryarty 18 January 2017 13: 09
      0
      Quote: Ded_Mazay
      And an extra solvent buyer for armaments for the defense industry will not hurt.

      Her. There is no need to supply weapons. Haftar has little money, and he will give them back for a long time. Therefore, it is necessary to demand hydrocarbon deposits, and the priority of Russian companies in the Libyan market. In this case, there really will be a benefit.
      1. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 18 January 2017 14: 16
        0
        Quote: Moryarty
        Quote: Ded_Mazay
        And an extra solvent buyer for armaments for the defense industry will not hurt.

        Her. There is no need to supply weapons. Haftar has little money, and he will give them back for a long time. Therefore, it is necessary to demand hydrocarbon deposits, and the priority of Russian companies in the Libyan market. In this case, there really will be a benefit.


        And who said that the buyer's solvency is determined by money in his pockets ??? And it is the weapons that need to be supplied, especially the S-300. Purely so that the shit-democrats from ShmNATO did not come to the light.
        1. Moryarty
          Moryarty 18 January 2017 23: 51
          0
          Quote: Ded_Mazay
          And who said that the buyer's solvency is determined by money in his pockets ???

          If only because then we forgive debts. That is, in vain money was poured.
          Quote: Ded_Mazay
          And it is the weapons that need to be supplied, especially the S-300. Purely so that the shit-democrats from ShmNATO did not come to the light.

          The Americans will easily destroy the S-300, because:
          1) Libyans are not trained to work with similar air defense systems. In addition, the Libyan level of training is very low.
          2) S-300 does not solve anything. To cover Libya with a reliable "umbrella", it is necessary to supply other air defense systems together with the S-300, as well as to organize well the ground forces. The S-300 itself is not as dangerous if the rest of the Libyan armed forces are weak.
          For example, I advise you to recall whether Libya greatly helped the S-200 in the last century, when their Americans bombed?