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Prohibited imports for the needs of defense and security of Russia

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“To prohibit the admission of goods originating from foreign countries, provided for in the appendix to this resolution, for the purpose of procuring goods for the needs of national defense and state security, except in cases where there is no production of such goods in the Russian Federation,” the resolution says 9 No. 14 January 2017.


The appendix contains a list of 132 products, including automobiles, helicopters, machine tools and machinery, turbines, tools, building materials, clothing, shoes.

The most significant articles of Russian imports (outside the Customs Union) are components of cars, including armored, and unmanned aerial vehicles.

Prohibited imports for the needs of defense and security of Russia

Armored Iveco LMV 65E19WM "Lynx", assembled from Italian car kits


An exception is made for purchases by the Federal Security Service, the Federal Guard Service, the Foreign Intelligence Service, the Ministry of the Interior, the Rosguard and the Office of the President of Russia.
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  1. evil partisan
    evil partisan 17 January 2017 05: 39
    +9
    Right now, the WTO will endorse about protectionism laughing
    And so it’s right, of course. Only the list needs to be expanded ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 17 January 2017 05: 45
      +4
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      the list needs to be expanded ...

      A list of what? Bans or exclusions ?!
    2. Mystery12345
      Mystery12345 17 January 2017 05: 51
      +4
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Right now, the WTO will endorse about protectionism laughing
      And so it’s right, of course. Only the list needs to be expanded ...

      for sure, add planes, vehicles, and office equipment .... and that’s it ... we are Zimbabwe ...
      1. romandostalo
        romandostalo 17 January 2017 06: 01
        +7
        And what do you have against the prohibition of the purchase of aircraft?
        1. Mystery12345
          Mystery12345 17 January 2017 06: 02
          +2
          Quote: romandostalo
          And what do you have against the prohibition of the purchase of aircraft?

          But what, have they restored their release? (But in general, I am sarcastic ...)
          1. romandostalo
            romandostalo 17 January 2017 06: 10
            +1
            The article then talks about: -for the needs of the country's defense and state security, A sarcasm is understandable ...
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 17 January 2017 06: 04
        +17
        Mystery12345
        for sure, add planes, vehicles, and office equipment .... and that’s it ... we are Zimbabwe ...
        You may be. The Russian army is definitely not.
      3. Cat man null
        Cat man null 17 January 2017 06: 10
        +13
        Quote: Mystery12345
        and that’s it ... we are Zimbabwe ...

        - you, hike, just read the headline
        - the ban concerns "purchases of goods for the needs of the country's defense and state security, unless there is no production of such goods in the territory of the Russian Federation"
        - the ban does not apply to the FSB, FSO, SVR, Rosgvardia ... that is, in fact, only applies to "army" purchases
        - and what, to the devil, "Zimbabwe" are you talking about ?! fool
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 January 2017 06: 22
          +1
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - the ban does not apply to the FSB, FSO, SVR, Rosgvardia ... that is, in fact, only applies to "army" purchases

          How long does it take to drag from one garage or warehouse to another? wink
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 17 January 2017 06: 25
            +2
            Quote: Bayonet
            How long does it take to drag from one garage or warehouse to another?

            - and get a hat for it ...
        2. Mystery12345
          Mystery12345 17 January 2017 06: 24
          +7
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          and what, to the devil, "Zimbabwe" are you talking about ?!

          fool in the offices of parts all the office equipment domestic? fool before you twist at the temple, show me a Russian scanner-printer-comp, in parts! again pencils and scores? really ... what Zimbabwe, there scores in the eyes probably did not see ... wassat
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 17 January 2017 06: 28
            +4
            Quote: Mystery12345
            and that’s it ...we-Zimbabwe...

            Quote: Mystery12345
            in the offices of parts all the office equipment domestic?

            - in the country as a whole everything will be as it is
            - and the Army, which did without any "office equipment", even I remember
            - and nicho - everything worked wink

            So what, to the devil, "Zimbabwe" are you talking about ?! fool
            1. Mystery12345
              Mystery12345 17 January 2017 06: 37
              +3
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              So what, to the devil, "Zimbabwe" are you talking about ?!

              why are you so excited? You can’t joke? relieve pressure, otherwise it will blow the roof! laughing
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 17 January 2017 07: 04
                +9
                Quote: Mystery12345
                why are you so excited?

                - why do you think so?

                Quote: Mystery12345
                You can’t joke?

                - you do not work well, IMHO

                Quote: Mystery12345
                will tear off the roof

                - do not wait tongue
            2. Hell's Angel
              Hell's Angel 17 January 2017 08: 43
              +1
              and the Army, which did without any "office equipment", even I remember
              This is when orders were written "by hand" and sent with a messenger? Or already when typewriters appeared?
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 17 January 2017 09: 58
                +2
                Quote: Hell Angel
                This is when orders were written "by hand" and sent with a messenger?

                - Before asking talented questions, sometimes it’s nice to read the writing earlier:

                Quote: Mystery12345
                show me the russian scanner-printer-comp, in parts!

                - so, I hope, more clearly? wink
                1. Hell's Angel
                  Hell's Angel 17 January 2017 11: 14
                  0
                  This is when orders were written "by hand" and sent with a messenger? Or already when typewriters appeared?
                  This joke was about age. I apologize if I offended.
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 17 January 2017 17: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: Hell Angel
                    This joke was about age

                    - Well, what are our years ... only five years ... even eleven times laughing

                    Quote: Hell Angel
                    I apologize if I offended

                    - I apologize for "misunderstanding the joke" hi
          2. Siberian
            Siberian 18 January 2017 14: 46
            0
            Quote: Mystery12345
            in the offices of parts all the office equipment domestic?

            Answer: office equipment can be imported, but it must be without access to the Internet and CERTIFIED by the established procedure, and information protection officers must watch for this in parts
      4. Titsen
        Titsen 17 January 2017 06: 44
        +6
        Quote: Mystery12345
        and that’s it ... we are Zimbabwe ...


        Another URY-PATRIOT from the number of Chef EVERYTHING LOST?

        Why feed Geyropu and Geymatrasiya?

        Inside us from our huge country there is someone to feed from among the manufacturers!
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 17 January 2017 07: 36
          +1
          Another URY-PATRIOT from the number of Chef EVERYTHING LOST?

          Something you do not fit. Hurray-patriot and suddenly "everything was gone." You will decide on the wording of the patriots you do not like so much.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 17 January 2017 09: 42
            +4
            Quote: rotmistr60
            Another URY-PATRIOT from the number of Chef EVERYTHING LOST?

            Something you do not fit. Hurray-patriot and suddenly "everything was gone." You will decide on the wording of the patriots you do not like so much.

            He imagines himself Pushkin - sprinkles with oxymorons! Master of the word!))
        2. Hell's Angel
          Hell's Angel 17 January 2017 08: 48
          +1
          For example, manufacturers of computers with "Elbrus" for several hundred thousand rubles. The Ministry of Defense is rich, will fork out for each office from the company and above. Pancake! There you also need an operating system, no office. Here is an ambush!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 17 January 2017 20: 24
            0
            Without German DMG machines, one hell so far, will not do.
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 17 January 2017 09: 27
          +4
          Quote: Titsen
          Inside us from our huge country there is someone to feed from among the manufacturers!
          Colleague, good morning! You are absolutely right. This is the position of Shoigu, which he formalized by decree of the Government of the Russian Federation. All funds allocated by the Army should work with us domestically and feed its producer. Well, of course, where it is not critical. Otherwise, we will never re-industrialize the country and restore machinery.
          Somehow, however.
        4. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 January 2017 13: 44
          0
          Quote: Titsen
          Geyropu and Geymatrasiyu?

          And what are you for every word to glue this funny prefix? Where does such a reverent attitude towards minorities come from? wink
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 January 2017 06: 20
      +3
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Only the list needs to be expanded ...

      If you did everything yourself, in sufficient quantity and quality - at least everything can be banned! smile
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 17 January 2017 08: 06
        +6
        Quote: Bayonet
        If you did everything yourself, in sufficient quantity and quality - at least everything can be banned!

        Then we get a vicious circle: we are forced to buy IT because we do not produce IT. As a result of which we do not do this because we are purchasing it. Can try to break this vicious circle? And even though at first it will be critically lacking THIS for us, but the brutal need for THIS to force IT to be done domestically. Otherwise (evolutionarily) it does not seem to work ... Of course, this is not about printers and coffee machines. Let them import without restrictions. But about, for example, a tool (any ...) I would think. And then at our company not a single Russian drill, cutter or vernier caliper can be found.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 January 2017 16: 40
          +2
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          And let it be critically missed for IT at first.

          But is it impossible without this, according to the mind it is impossible? Necessarily through suffering and hardship, through a crisis? Can you develop your own in parallel, without unnecessary "labor heroism"? request
          1. sdc_alex
            sdc_alex 17 January 2017 18: 08
            +2
            Again vicious circle:
            There are Elbrus computers, but it is "impossible" to buy them for the needs of the Ministry of Defense because they are very expensive, and they are very expensive because they are produced piece by piece, and they are produced piece by piece, because no one buys ...
            Here one cannot do without a crisis and "labor heroism" ... smile
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 17 January 2017 20: 27
              +2
              Moscow Region buys RPG 30 grenade launchers at one hundred thousand rubles apiece - computers at a similar price.
          2. sdc_alex
            sdc_alex 17 January 2017 18: 16
            +1
            Quote: Bayonet
            Necessarily through suffering and hardship, through crisis?

            In general, this is what we have in Russia. Coffee, tobacco, Orthodoxy, like all the achievements of the USSR and Soviet power, were planted only through blood, suffering, deprivation and crisis ....
            Otherwise there was not and will not be ... request laughing
          3. evil partisan
            evil partisan 17 January 2017 18: 34
            +2
            Quote: Bayonet
            Can't you think?

            what
            request
        2. sdc_alex
          sdc_alex 17 January 2017 18: 19
          +2
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          in our company you will not find a single Russian drill, cutter or vernier caliper

          Your company is interesting ... what
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 17 January 2017 18: 39
            +1
            Quote: sdc_alex
            Your company is interesting

            Swedish cutters, drills. measuring instrument, permanent magnets, part of the electronics - Chinese, German batteries, etc., etc. ... And so we also bought American electronics. Then they came under sanctions and reoriented to China, South Korea and a bit to Russian electronics.
            1. sdc_alex
              sdc_alex 17 January 2017 18: 48
              +2
              Our company, of course, is different, but a lot of our tool. Drills, screwdrivers and measuring tools for sure ...
              Yes, and electronics, too, not at 100%, of course, but ....
    4. Thirteenth
      Thirteenth 17 January 2017 08: 27
      0
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Only the list needs to be expanded ...



      I wonder if this ban applies to Belarus and Kazakhstan?
  2. kolkulon
    kolkulon 17 January 2017 05: 45
    +4
    Shcha Belarusians will quickly "organize the release" of these very goods.
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 17 January 2017 06: 41
    +2
    this is normal practice, why do we need someone else, if we do it ourselves and can do what we are buying ...
  4. Altona
    Altona 17 January 2017 07: 40
    0
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    - the ban does not apply to the FSB, FSO, SVR, Rosgvardia ... that is, in fact, only applies to "army" purchases

    ------------------------------------
    Gunmen and equipment have always been bought by specialists for different occasions, and just for study. What is the point of setting limits on Berettas and Glocks?
  5. Altona
    Altona 17 January 2017 07: 44
    +3
    Quote: Mystery12345
    show me the russian scanner-printer-comp, in parts!

    ------------------------------
    Since the new year, the state ordered to buy computers for the Ministry of Defense on the Russian processors "Baikal" and "Elbrus". And the rest will be bought in China, and there only labels from the West, which China has been buying for a long time.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 January 2017 09: 35
      +6
      Quote: Altona
      And we’ll buy the rest in China,

      Yes, it seems that the plant is being built to produce a graphene base for chips ...
      And then, the light did not converge like a wedge on the hunfuz. Yuk also wants to "bite" the bread with our butter. At least we replenish the machine park from there. (carousel machines, for example).
      And now they will create a machine-tool holding company. Group "A" will begin to rivet, and then it will become easier ... Yeah.
  6. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 17 January 2017 08: 24
    +2
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Right now, the WTO will endorse about protectionism laughing
    And so it’s right, of course. Only the list needs to be expanded ...

    In-in, and cut off access to space for the most do not spoil these sanctioners ....
  7. osoboye_mneniye
    osoboye_mneniye 17 January 2017 15: 12
    +2
    I read here about the debate, for good or bad. To talk about this, you need to understand what goals this action has.
    It’s just to forbid everything for the army, it is unlikely that this will be the army to benefit in peacetime. But it will certainly be useful in the military. The whole question is whether the army will have time to finish off on unsuitable equipment until the moment when the lack of imported components makes itself felt?
    Of course, stopping imports will benefit their producers.
    In addition, such an action is a hint to importers and investors what needs to be done in Russia. And this is good.
    There are only two problems when a new alternative product of Russian production appears:
    1. Domestic goods are 90% produced from imported components. We can assemble computers, for example, but we will buy imported processors.
    2. Domestic goods are inferior to imported ones (if we talk about the area that I know well).
    If we talk about Soviet times, then the comparisons were incorrect, because the product was not better or worse, but it was different - fundamentally different solutions, other materials and components.
    And now copy-paste is continuous in our prom. And what is the point for the momentary situation to fence off from import quality solutions instead of their miserable domestic counterparts made up of the same imported components?
    While fundamental science and production (of materials, element base, etc.) does not work for us, there is no need to talk about real substitution.
    The task is to transfer the defense industry complex to import independence as painlessly as possible for defense .. If such a law is passed, either the moment of transition has come or they are trying to move the business to production in Russia.
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 17 January 2017 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
      Domestic goods inferior to imported


      Yes, yes, yes ... exactly. Earlier, for example, they said: "They have 40 varieties of sausages in the store, the packaging is beautiful, the technique is light, compact, but our coffins are not lifting ..." and so on. etc. And then, "suddenly", it turned out that 40 varieties of sausages are made of artificial meat, the packaging is not processed and does not rot, it also pollutes the nature, and even harmful for products, not like Soviet wrapping paper. The technique is light and compact, but disposable, and it works well, but not for long ...
      Here you know how, in foreign crayfish HE always seems fatter ... But whiners and alarmists must be put against the wall!
      1. osoboye_mneniye
        osoboye_mneniye April 21 2017 21: 01
        0
        Just to blurt out something in response. Are you going to fight a sausage?
        If your knowledge does not go further than sausages, then why get into adult topics?
  8. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 17 January 2017 19: 47
    0
    And also it is necessary to forbid children of civil servants to study and live abroad. Those. you can study and live, only - from work - and for five years - not to travel abroad ... With a full tax audit of all income of the family clan!
    This is more effective than technology.
    And a warhead can only be sent to adversaries by those who have no relatives among adversaries.
    And so, - if a mess happened: Russia will surrender everything: from deputies and ministers to generals and captains.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 January 2017 20: 35
      0
      "And so - if a mess happens: Russia will be surrendered by everyone: from deputies and ministers to generals and captains." And they will not give a damn about them - they are in the minority.
  9. gridasov
    gridasov 18 January 2017 14: 44
    0
    I look at this car and its snow chains and think about what modern designers are, who do not know how to work with information and do not know how to take advantage of the experience of the Second World War. Namely, they can’t even repeat the anti-slip device that was used on the lorry. At the same time, the car is in the status of the latest and most effective.