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How do we properly interpret the policies of Israel?

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Last year, we quite often became participants and witnesses of heated battles between the main body of readers and our visitors from Israel. There were a lot of copies broken, but in the light of recent events, I would like to, if not to sum up some results, then at least somehow put everything in my head.




I will not hide the fact that I devoted a lot of my time to trying to understand the true essence of the actions of the Israelis. Naturally, from the words (communicating in "Skype") or letters (by correspondence) living in this state.

I'll save the conclusions for the ending of the material, but for now I'll start with the well-known historical moments.

The history of the formation of the state of Israel is well known, so I will not pour water here. The fact that there is no country in the region that would not fight with Israel is also not a secret. Like the fact that in none of the conflicts of the 20 century, Israel was an initiator. In fact, all the wars of that time began with the creation of a coalition under the motto "Let's go and hang Jews."

To go - they used to tell, about really hanging - somehow not very much. It turned out that the Jews are able to fight, and if they wish, they can quite well wring out the territories for their use. Plus, the good old Camp David Treaty, under which the United States still provides military assistance to Israel for 5 billions of dollars a year. From 1977 year. And plus another contract from 2016, the 48 billion dollars. And then in Israel, the prime minister is criticized: they say, made a bad bargain ...

Here, by the way, it is worth mentioning Egypt, which is a party to the treaty, and enjoys all the same preferences as Israel. The Arabs of the region clearly demonstrated the principle of “let's not forget, we will not forgive” in terms of agreements with Israel, arranging a relative boycott of former comrades in arms, and now Israel has more or less good relations with Egypt, like the “victims” as a result of the Camp David Accords.

However, the road along which they continue to move in Israel today is somewhat puzzling. I am about constant shelling. Yes, they have been talked about, talked and will talk about, because Israel will not refuse from this practice. But there is only one nuance.

We are accustomed to the fact that our Israeli readers proudly stated in the comments that "we have such a policy." To kick back answer.

Well, here I agree. The practice is probably not bad, but why does it not bear fruit? But on the contrary, are cases becoming more and more frequent? Strangely, it seems that if someone who wants to harm Israel performs actions in the direction of this state, then, having received an "otvetku", this attacker must either be destroyed or not be willing to repeat it soon. After all, as we are assured by the Israelis, their army is the most rascal in the region and so on.

As I (and with me, perhaps, someone agrees) I understand, they do not beat for that. But let's go over the reports.

2015 year.

28 January. The Israeli Air Force attacked the artillery positions of the Syrian government army in response to a recent rocket attack on Israeli territory (Vesti, Israeli newspaper).

2 April. The Israeli Air Force attacked the positions of the Syrian army near Homs (DPA).

25 April. Israeli planes bombed warehouses with missiles of the Syrian army and the Lebanese group Hezbollah. Reported the death of one person (portal IsraInfo).

Here a question begs the question: how to see such a joint warehouse of Hezbollah and the armed forces of the SAR. Even, sorry, does not fit in my head.

26 April. In Syrian territory near the Israeli border a group of terrorists laying a mine was destroyed by an air strike (the source is the same).

All that I need, I highlighted. No comments.

27 April. The Israeli Air Force destroyed the warehouse of the SCAD missiles intended for Hezbollah north of Damascus. In the Syrian territory there are dead and wounded (agency "SANA").

It is clear that nobody showed the missiles “for Hezbollah”. They were destroyed ...

20 August. The Israeli air force launched a series of strikes on the territory of Syria. Two administrative buildings in Quneitra were attacked. This operation was a response to the rocket attack on Israel (again, the Syrian agency SANA).

As it should be understood, it was from these buildings that rockets were launched. After all, Israeli intelligence is the best in the region, they knew where to give an answer ...

4 December. Air strike on a convoy of trucks carrying rockets in the Al Qatifa area north of Damascus.

2016 year.

9 February. The IDF air force attacked Hezbollah militants on the Damascus-Homs (Al-Jazeera) highway.

4 July. The Israeli military attacked the position of the Syrian army near the Israeli border after shelling in the area of ​​the border fence. There is no information about the damage or casualties. The fact of the attack, the IDF announced officially ("News").

22 August. In response to the mortar shelling of the Israeli Air Force attacked the positions of the Syrian army in the central part of the Golan Heights.

4 September. In response to the mortar shelling of the border territory of the Israeli Air Force attacked the territory of Syria. The target of the attack was the firing point of the artillery of the Syrian army (hereinafter - SANA).

8 September. The Israeli Air Force attacked the mortar stance of the Syrian government army. The air strike was a reaction to the shelling of the territory of Israel.

10 September. The Israeli Air Force attacked the artillery positions of the Syrian government army in response to the shelling of Israel’s territory.

13 September. In response to the mortar shelling of the territory of Israel, the Air Force attacked the artillery battery of the Syrian government army. Syria's air defense fired two rockets on Israeli aircraft.

14 September. Israeli Air Force hit the target in Syria. The actions were a reaction to the mortar attacks on Israeli territory.

30 November. Attacked by a convoy of trucks in the Damascus area. The blow was also struck to strengthen the army of Assad in the capital of Syria.

9 November. The IDF attacked a Syrian artillery battery. The strike came in response to a mortar shell on Israeli territory.

27 November. The Israeli military opened fire on targets in Syrian territory after shelling military personnel patrolling the border in the southeastern part of the Golan Heights and dropping three mortar shells into Israeli territory. The IDF air force destroyed the vehicle of the terrorists who had fired at the soldiers, four militants of the Shukhada al-Yarmuk group were killed.

28 November. The Israeli Air Force attacked the object of the organization "Islamic State" in Syrian territory. An abandoned building formerly owned by the UN, which the terrorists used to shoot at IDF troops, was hit.

2017 year

13 January. A blow was struck at the Mezze military airfield and several other targets in the vicinity of Damascus.

The list, as you can see, is rather big. And deliberately, I removed from it all that concerns the development of the Israeli Air Force at Hezbollah sites. Although this happened on the territory of the state, in the airspace of which Israeli planes openly intruded in violation of all international norms and rules. As well as he did not report any “Arab media” and frankly fake institutions such as the “Syrian Point of Observance of Human Rights” in London.

But so above the roof.

What conclusions can be drawn here? Very interesting.

It turns out that if those who were engaged in shelling were accurately spotted in the Israeli army, they would be destroyed. If not, then the fire is conducted on the objects of the Syrian army. And often quite far from the places of real events.

Who gave Israel the right to such exclusivity, I think, is not worth talking. This was done by the Israelis themselves, naturally, not without the support of a “big friend,” that is, the United States.

By and large, there are not so many countries in the world that can afford things like systematic and regular raids into the territory of another state. For which the laws are not written.

But here we have a very interesting situation, which I would shortly call as "Well settled down".

It is no secret that Israel and Syria are enemies. More precisely, in Israel they consider the enemy of Assad. Therefore, as I understood it from the explanations of our Israeli readers, the policy is as follows: if we are touched, we give back.

The fact that there are more than 50 of different terrorist groups in Syria today is not interesting to anyone in Israel. And no one, too, would figure out who, under the cover of night, brought a mortar into the frontier and started shooting at it from Israel. But there is an excellent reason to send airplanes kilometers beyond the 250-300 to the territory of Syria (of course, Syrian mortars shoot exactly that distance) and work on the airfield near Damascus.

Everything is very clear and logical. Only Israeli logic is ... crooked.

Yes, aggression comes from the state of Syria. This is true. But why it is responsible for border incidents at airfields "north of Damascus" is hard to say. The motto “Assad is the President, and is responsible for everything” is, of course, very kosher, but you should not forget who often controls the border areas.

About those near the border. It's no secret that terrorists are often sitting there. It is as it is, the rear of the front with the SAR. Rear, from which the soldiers of the ISIS is quite normal if necessary, may be on the territory of Israel.

Yes, the answers to the questions “why are you treating terrorists?” We also observed on our pages more than once. It’s all a matter of Jewish philanthropy. A real and right Jew cannot pass by someone else’s misfortune. And therefore "we do not make a difference between those who need help." Familiar? Familiar.

Well, really, if a person is injured, no matter by whom, to help him in a human way. And humanly punish him wounded, right? That's just the quandary again. Help in Israel is often offered to terrorists from ISIS, Dzhebhat al Nusra and the like, prohibited not only here, but in many other countries, and for some reason they punish those who fight against these terrorists.

Everything is explained very simply. Israel does not need a side by side for many reasons Iran-Syria. And, first of all, of course, Syria, that is, Assad, who only in the light of recent events completely forgot about the issue of the occupied Golan Heights. But if Assad wins over the forces of ISIS, the question will arise again.

Therefore, any terrorist, from any organization that does not look towards Israel, but towards Syria, is an ally for Israel.

Here I refer, by the way, to Professor Ephraim Enbar, a staff member of the Begin and Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, whose article was published in August last year by many media outlets and Mordechai Keidar, an orientalist, a professor in the Arabic language department at Bar-Ilan University and also a member of the above-mentioned center.

And if Mr. Kaydar only indicated the problem in his speeches, then Mr. Enbar quite clearly justified the lack of benefit for Israel in the event of the destruction of ISIL.

According to Enbar, the defeat of a terrorist organization will force its members to return to their countries, which will lead to an increase in terrorist acts around the world. If you don’t eliminate ISIS completely, but only weaken it to the level when all the forces of this organization will go to war within the borders of present-day Iraq and Syria, then this will only make it possible to destroy each other’s government forces and armed groups without thinking of terrorist attacks beyond its borders.

"Letting the bad guys kill the bad guys sounds very cynical, but it is useful and even moral because it provides the employment of the bad guys and less opportunity for them to harm the good guys."

And Israeli Gold Chancellor Alex Goldman-Shayman stated in general that “the IS, of course, is also not a friend to us and also threatens us ... I cannot say who is more dangerous for Israel is Iran or the IS. But the fact that Tehran has more opportunities to harm us is for sure. ”

Actually, this is actually the answer to the question about the roots of the “strange war” waged by Israel. The friendship between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which is growing stronger every day, also fits in beautifully with this.

Ask, what can the Wahhabi state, one of the two ideological and financial sponsors of religious and terrorist scumbags in the world, and the Jews, who are supposed to be a bone in the throats of the Saudis, have in common?

It's simple. Friendship against Iran. Iran, which is not only supported by Russia, the United States could not strangle the country with sanctions and preferred to loosen its grip on the throat in exchange for continuing its machinations in Iraq. And Iran has always supported Syria. That's the whole deal ...

That's why ISIS is not viewed by Tel Aviv as an enemy. As well as other Sunni groups operating in Syria. This is "his".

That is why it is unrealistic to find in the reports from the region a little bit impressive evidence of the struggle of the Israeli army against terrorists. In fact, the only example can be called military operations in the Sinai Peninsula. But here a little crooked. Yes, the attacks on the recognized Islamic Caliphate Vilayet Sinai grouping were inflicted. But here is a little walk through the history of the gang.

At first, this gang was called “At-Tauhid wal-Jihad”, and was formed in 2002 year. Its founder is Sharkyya Khaled Musaid, and two more of his accomplices from the Sinai Peninsula.

In 2011, by merging with another Sinai gang, “Naguna min an-Nar” (“Those who escaped from Hell”), the Ansar Beit al-Maqdis group, known for its “exploits”, led by Taufik Ziyad, who was released from prison, was known.

10 November 2014, many members took an oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, one of the leaders of ISIS, and were called “Vilayet Sinai” (“Sinai Province”).

So basically, this is more of an advertising move. A gang of Sinai absolutely set for themselves their tasks related exclusively to the habitat. And acted solely on Sinai.

It turns out that Israel is not so uneven breathing in relation to ISIS and their allies. Unfortunately, in fact, lately, Israel has repeatedly given reason to doubt its sincerity towards Islamic terrorists. I believe more in the desire to get more at the expense of a weakened neighbor. Double standards in the flesh.

The question arises: can a state with such a policy be at least a normal partner? I do not even stutter about any issues of alliance.

Necessary afterword.

Personally, it is difficult for me to hang a clear label "yours" or "someone else's" on a Syrian or Israeli. The first I know is not so good, and to be honest with you, I would prefer a Persian to an Arab. But looking at those dances, which suit the Israelis, there is even more doubt. No, if you look at our “obzrenskihs” this way, they will guide anyone on the right path. And the correctness and righteousness of any prophet or saint will take.

But if the whole state is such, out of clear and correct, why are things so ... clumsy? No, it is clear that everything must be done for the sake of the prosperity of the state. The only question is about whom to dirty their hands with friendship.

When I worked on this material, it happened, I spoke with one Jew. From there. And he told me such a thing: you treated Ukrainian soldiers too! And then let go back! How are you better?

A habitual, of course, practice from an Israeli, but what can be expected from a person who left Russia at the age of 6? Yes, they did. Yes, saved from imminent death at the hands of the militias. Yes, healed and sent back home. But who? I think I should not repeat myself in my understanding of Ukraine, everyone knows this quite well.

Let's hypothetically put next to one of those fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a militiaman and a Russian. And it would be nice to make an Israeli citizen find three differences. I think if you put "igilovtsa" and "Tsakhalovts", then any Russian will find these differences. We greeted the soldiers of the neighboring army, even the former fraternal state. Own blood. But how much "igilovskie" their for the Israelis - that is another question.

Yes, by the way, and on our farms flew "from that side" several times. But for some reason, our planes did not fly to bomb Kiev and Borispol. We Russians are generally strange.

But the fact that sometimes we choose allies and friends is not very good is a fact. But I think we learn. Israel, at least, will help by example. Teach They, the Israelites, love to teach the right. We will try to be good students. After all, learning from the advanced and enlightened is only for the benefit. The main thing is not to get dirty.
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  1. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 16 January 2017 06: 46
    +11
    I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us. wink
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 16 January 2017 07: 37
      +42
      Aron Zawi apparently on the thief hat is on fire! lol
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 16 January 2017 11: 09
        +9
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        Aron Zawi apparently on the thief hat is on fire! lol

        Burned for a long time!
        Everything else is already smoldering ... God willing - flare up! there is someone to inflate ...
      2. meshorer
        meshorer 16 January 2017 13: 02
        +8
        I will explain for those who are not in the know. Iran with Hezbollah on the one hand, and Isil on the other are two warring branches of Islamofascism (well, approximately like Stalin and Trotsky). In terms of military potential, Hezbollah with Iran is much more dangerous than ISIS. That’s the whole difference.
        The Russian partners have no complaints about our policy of preventing the armament of the Shiite Islamist fascists, there are no protests from Russia.
        And for those Russians who greatly admire their allies, Iran and Hezbollah, I recommend asking who killed the Russian diplomat Arkady Katkov and who cursed the Soviet Union and called him Satan.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 16 January 2017 13: 39
          +14
          Quote: meshorer
          I recommend asking who killed the Russian diplomat Arkady Katkov and who cursed the Soviet Union and called him Satan.

          Yes, you yourself (personally you) look no better, giving similar examples:
          Quote: meshorer
          Iran with Hezbollah on the one hand, and Isil on the other are two warring branches of Islamofascism (well, approximately like Stalin and Trotsky).

          negative
          Who does not know this is Israel: hi
          1. meshorer
            meshorer 16 January 2017 13: 42
            +1
            We had communists, as in any country. But they never were in power, and Stalin therefore very quickly became disillusioned with Israel.
        2. AlexSam
          AlexSam 16 January 2017 15: 27
          +7
          an incorrect comparison "like Stalin with Trotsky" - both formally, a Georgian with a Jew, and even more formally, communism with Freemasonry or Zionism, who is closer and dearer ... Iran and ISIS are two branches of the same ... some kind of nonsense. .. why not Saudi Arabia and ISIS, for that matter? or is friendship sacred?)
        3. Talgat
          Talgat 16 January 2017 16: 54
          +11
          Quote: meshorer
          Russians who greatly admire their allies with Iran and Hezbollah recommend recommending who killed the Russian diplomat Arkady Katkov and who cursed the Soviet Union and called him Satan


          Why is it that visitors from Israel + liberal-minded constantly try (and very naively and stupidly even - counting "as a fool"?) To slander Iran - which is our common friend and strategic partner with Russia.

          I was not too lazy and re-read the speeches of all Iranian leaders and politicians from Sajidi to Rowhan with Ahmadinejad - and everywhere I saw only one thing - always and constantly, and Russia and Kazakhstan are called friendly countries. Iran simply has no way out - on all sides enemies and friends can only be CSTO countries.

          I already wrote earlier that our republic headed for friendship with Iran earlier than Russia (of course, most likely by agreement with GDP) - after the construction of a joint railway that finally connected Iran with Eurasia, our presidents Nazarbayev and Rouhani openly declared our countries strategic partners . Only the turnover, for example, is planned to be increased by 5 times. After that, Russia also began military cooperation - then, together with Iran, it fights with aggressors in Syria and Iraq

          Many countries with an anti-American policy have become "clients" of China (the same Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and other Bolivarians, for example) - Iran, which is interesting - still keeps closer to Russia and Kazakhstan - than to China - probably because we are closer - and China is farther
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 16 January 2017 18: 24
            +8
            Talgat, it all began much earlier ... Media - there was such a state in the 6th century AD .. It included the territories of modern Central Asia and Iran. By the way, there are many nomadic tribes among the Iranians. Then there was the state of the Achaemenids. The state strongly had its own army - it was completely horse-drawn (nomads were its basis). That is why the Iranians were jealous of the annexation of the Great Steppe and Central Asia to the Russian Empire. Moreover, when they went to Afghanistan - then they "called" the USSR "Little Satan". Well, for example, such a holiday as Nauryz is common for the Turks and Iran. Therefore, the restoration of relations between the countries of Central Asia and the Republic of Kazakhstan with Iran after the collapse of the Union was mutual. The most interesting political and economic event of the last year in relation to Iran was the proposal of the GDP to join the pipeline system of the former USSR. It is very beneficial for Iran - the opportunity to "pump" to the West and East; but at the same time it is a certain "dependence" that will lead to closer economic relations. And, of course, the circular railway around the Caspian Sea.
            "Bibi" does not see beyond its nose. Assad tomorrow will have the most efficient army in the region - why would he need these senseless bombing !? After all, with that Hezbollah it is necessary to solve with Russia, because she obviously has an influence on her and Iran with Assad. Military actions will only lead to further tension in relations with neighbors (Syria and Lebanon). Assad will probably not be able to "push in", moreover, the Arabs will call him some kind of Lion of the Middle East for the fact that he was able to defeat the Barmaley behind whom the entire "white" world stood.
            It makes no sense to "water" ordinary Israelis, especially "ours" - all the authorities decide (Bibi), they give the order. Israel will become a problem in relations between the Russian Federation and the United States. Trump will certainly support Bibi - so he is losing shores, citing the bombing of Hezbollah. It has long been clear that the issue of Palestine and the Arabs will not be resolved by force of Israeli power. Instead of Hamas and Hezbollah, they will receive others with forceful actions. Isn't it time to come to an agreement - it is clear that Russia has entered the Middle East scene - through it, it must somehow, otherwise I simply do not see a solution to Israel's problems with its neighbors ?!
            All these blows are similar to a situation when two are fighting, and the third is giving out his "plops" out of the tishka, training. If I understood correctly, then at the last blow of Bibi he bombed the fuel and lubricants depots at the airfield - that he would stop the war by this - the "order" seems to have worked like a mercenary ?! hi
            1. meshorer
              meshorer 16 January 2017 19: 49
              +5
              We have the idea that during the last bombardment, the earth-to-land missiles that Iran delivered to Hezbollah were destroyed. Each such bombardment saves the lives of our children, women and the elderly. Therefore, such bombing will continue with the full understanding of the Russian partners (the righteous anger of the forum lads on VO does not count)
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 16 January 2017 22: 13
                +4
                It is understandable that you will continue bombing, and that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is silent. The bottom line is that it won't help; on the contrary, an extra reason for an answer. Or do you think that in this way Bibi will solve the problem? In my opinion, it would be more correct to help the "monster" Assad solve the problem with the barmaley (after all, they will trample on you and the United States will not stop it) as a general one (no one speaks for direct, military assistance). And then, with the help of the Russian Federation, they will agree on the existence-life of the neighbors. Assad, after your help, may not give a damn (I admit it), but under Moscow he will not spit far - he will turn away and silently watch how you iron Syria with Hezbollah. hi
                So Bibi will gain more credibility than what we see.
                1. Dan4eG
                  Dan4eG 16 January 2017 23: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: Kasym
                  In my opinion, it would be more correct to help the "monster" Assad

                  Excuse me, but aren’t you by chance to whack constantly gut about the official invitation? let the ophthalmologist invite him to fight, only hezbola and the Iranians will then unscrew him something and say that it was so! Tell me, but Hamasyatin for Assad or not? did you see that in the vacuum cleaner there were rallies of Asad’s support?
                  Quote: Kasym
                  Assad will have the most combat-ready army in the region tomorrow

                  So what? will go to war with Israel? God be with you! he will clean the generals and clean the ends so that they don’t pull the uterus on his head!
              2. V.ic
                V.ic 18 January 2017 21: 05
                0
                Quote: meshorer
                forum anger

                ... "chosen", "filter bazaar", otherwise you will wait for complete circumcision ... right up to the top ...
          2. Stanislas
            Stanislas 16 January 2017 21: 42
            +3
            Quote: Talgat
            Iran, which is interesting - still keeps closer to Russia and Kazakhstan - than to China - probably because we are closer - and China further
            Of course, China, with its atheistic ideology and communist power, is not a fellow traveler for Iran, and Russia with a modern orientation to traditional values ​​suits much more. If our banking system becomes more similar to the Iranian one, then Eurasia may emerge instead of the USSR. There will be a parity of forces. smile Years through 50-70.
        4. Ilja2016
          Ilja2016 17 January 2017 02: 39
          +5
          Who gave Israel the right to invade the territory of another state? AND? This is an international crime. Must be held accountable.
        5. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 18 January 2017 14: 55
          +1
          Briefly and clearly. It’s just a shame for the Russian Federation that if we do the same as Israel (and the Russian Federation does its business much more delicately) then the howl and cry of Yaroslavna, animal rights advocates, etc. will rise. The question is not the rights of the weak, but what would our brains soar ...
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 16 January 2017 22: 49
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        Aron Zawi apparently on the thief hat is on fire! lol

        So buy yourself a new one.
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 16 January 2017 07: 38
      +6
      Aron, hi! It is clear that the Israelis will support and strongly endorse the policies of their country. So do not shirk the dialogue, otherwise you will get smack and there will be srach, cruel, merciless and senseless!
      Personally, my opinion on this matter is that there is some kind of Makhnovism in Israel ... It seems that they are defending their interests, but sometimes actions cross out previous achievements. Sometimes it comes out weird. And, apparently, on many issues there is simply blatant irresponsibility!
      Another question, how will Israel feel if subsidies and military-technical assistance run out? The question is anger, in the states comes big Trump, and he looks at many things in his own way ...
      1. Sidel45
        Sidel45 16 January 2017 08: 49
        +12
        Personally, my opinion on this matter is that there is some kind of Makhnovism in Israel ... It seems that they are defending their interests, but sometimes actions cross out previous achievements. Sometimes it comes out weird. And, apparently, on many issues there is simply blatant irresponsibility!

        There is no Makhnovism in Israel, just as there is no flagrant irresponsibility, but there is the safeguarding of the interests of their country and their people, and at the expense of others and ANY means. Including smelling bad. Take, for example, the construction of Jewish settlements on Palestinian territory.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 16 January 2017 11: 16
          +14
          Quote: Seidel45
          Take, for example, the construction of Jewish settlements on Palestinian territory.

          ... We quickly occupied the territory of a neighboring state (there really is no border!) ... We quickly set up villages there - oh, kibbutz ... Each resident of the village - a "kalash" - oh, "galila"! And - let them protect themselves! But if they cannot - we will bomb and throw missiles at the capital, schools, hospitals - and other objects of the "military infrastructure" of this "neighbor! ...
          ------------------
          Is the world used to this? ...
      2. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 16 January 2017 09: 39
        +7
        And what is its interpretation of Israel .. Mayhem !!!
        And when he is so strongly offended and calls a foreign uncle. Save. John!
      3. 210ox
        210ox 16 January 2017 11: 31
        0
        Oh no "professor" and "atalef" .. That would be something like that ..
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        Aron, hi! It is clear that the Israelis will support and strongly endorse the policies of their country. So do not shirk the dialogue, otherwise you will get smack and there will be srach, cruel, merciless and senseless!
        Personally, my opinion on this matter is that there is some kind of Makhnovism in Israel ... It seems that they are defending their interests, but sometimes actions cross out previous achievements. Sometimes it comes out weird. And, apparently, on many issues there is simply blatant irresponsibility!
        Another question, how will Israel feel if subsidies and military-technical assistance run out? The question is anger, in the states comes big Trump, and he looks at many things in his own way ...
      4. knn54
        knn54 16 January 2017 12: 01
        +4
        -AlNikolaich: that there is some kind of Makhnovism in Israel.
        Jews are God's chosen people, but not TODAY.
        -victorsh: -Many "cry" about the Holocaust.
        They killed Polish. Soviet Jews. And the money was received by Israel, which "emerged" after World War II?
        Seidel45: and blatant irresponsibility.
        Including IGNORE UN Security Council decision (s) ... on Israel.
        ... at the expense of others and ANY means.
        PARASITISM, however.
      5. user
        user 16 January 2017 12: 19
        +4
        Personally, my opinion on this subject is that in Israel there is some kind of Makhnovism ...


        Well, you want to compliment them. And everything is simpler and harder there - water is the main reason and while Syria is at war with someone, it is not up to the Galan Heights. And the Jews, at every slightest opportunity, do not let any military clash either with the Syrians or provide assistance against the Syrians to subside. Although they hide behind a wound of the type with slogans - "not one blow without response" and so on.
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 16 January 2017 14: 19
        +11
        Yes, there is no Makhnovshchina. Syria is Israel’s old enemy, and Israel is subversive against it. Gangs in Kuneitra and Daraa are coordinated from the center and supplied in Jordan, including with the help of the Israelis. The militants in Kuneitra themselves admitted that they are coordinating their actions with Israel. Here they are treated. If it’s hard for them, they pull it a couple of times towards the border and air support arrives. Simple business. request
        Israel and the Saudis have recently been best friends against Iran. Nusrovtsy and other branches of al-Qaeda are fed by the Saudis, which are not a problem for Israel. He has no special problems with Wahs. The enemies of Israel have always been secular Arab countries. And Syria is the main adversary. Tch everything is clear.
        But the Israelis do not understand that such actions will lead to the fact that the supply to the hezam will STRONGLY grow both in quantity and in quality and in xs, which they may emerge from the arsenals of Syria, Iran and Iraq. An example is the Hussites, who have already launched dozens of points on the Saudis and their allies. And this is in the conditions of the essentially blockade of northern Yemen. And here is the whole border with Syria.
      7. Orakul2000
        Orakul2000 16 January 2017 22: 02
        +5
        Dear Nikolaitch!

        My personal vision of what is happening is that sooner or later we will have to send our troops to Syria to restore order at least in the Golan Heights and Druze settlements in these areas. I do not see how the Syrian government is gaining enough strength to start a real and tangible turning point in this undoubtedly terrible war. Assad, the cunning Iranians, although they call the allies and try to help him, actually twist them like a puppet and solve their problems without taking into account real Syrian interests.
        Regarding subsidies, I recommend that you study how many billions of dollars Israel lost on defense orders, after Israeli firms won the tender and were forced to cede the contracts to the Americans after a call from the Washington Regional Committee to our prime minister.

        With respect.
        1. Ilja2016
          Ilja2016 17 January 2017 02: 45
          +2
          He will introduce troops. Enter try. Look do not tear yourself. Yes you guys are completely insolent.
    3. BLOND
      BLOND 16 January 2017 08: 19
      +5
      Reading the article ... hoped for heated debate with interlocutors from Israel ...
      I don’t like popcorn, but I thought I read it under a good sandwich with coffee ...
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us. wink

      And then "three green whistles" passed. And all "there will be no cine" (alas)
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 16 January 2017 08: 23
        +10
        Quote: BLOND
        Reading the article ... hoped for heated debate with interlocutors from Israel ...

        So the cat knows whose fat has eaten. Even if it is an Israeli cat.

        They have so obviously nothing to say that even somehow there is no intrigue ...
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        2. Ljubomir
          Ljubomir 16 January 2017 11: 58
          +5
          They have so obviously nothing to say that even somehow there is no intrigue

          Yes, when the sidewalk "tykh was stopped by the obvious !? With foam at the beak they will blatantly lie, just to get rid of Russia and shield themselves ..
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      1. cap
        cap 16 January 2017 08: 58
        +5
        Quote: meshorer
        I will explain for those who are not in the know. Iran with Hezbollah on the one hand, and Isil on the other are two warring branches of Islamofascism (well, approximately like Stalin and Trotsky). In terms of military potential, Hezbollah with Iran is much more dangerous than ISIS. That’s the whole difference.


        Here is a decent answer. There is something to ask. What will the Israeli budget look like if D. Trump cuts American investments in the country's economy, or is it basically impossible, given the most powerful lobby of the US Congress. hi I regularly read the Cursor corruption scandals in Israel, the topic is constant, do they really take it?
        1. meshorer
          meshorer 16 January 2017 19: 55
          +3
          Corruption is everywhere, the question is size. We have more corruption than in Scandinavia and much less than in the post-Soviet space
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 16 January 2017 08: 58
        +9
        Quote: meshorer
        Aron, you must not be silent. Otherwise, they will perceive Skomorokhov's nonsense at face value.

        It’s just been discussed so many times that there will be nothing besides a flood of senseless and merciless.
        1. andj61
          andj61 16 January 2017 10: 01
          +9
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: meshorer
          Aron, you must not be silent. Otherwise, they will perceive Skomorokhov's nonsense at face value.

          It’s just been discussed so many times that there will be nothing besides a flood of senseless and merciless.

          Aron, is it really difficult once again to outline your position? Skororokhov posed questions of life, and avoiding answering such questions would only indicate that the Israelis had nothing to say.
          A flood is meaningless only for those regulars of VO for whom the appearance of all Israelis here and, especially, the Israeli flag, act like a red rag on a bull. There are not many of them, but they are active. Put them in your emergency - and do not pay attention to their comments, conduct a dialogue with adequate, in your opinion, people. And express your opinion on the issues that are extremely uncomfortable for the Israelis posed in the article.
          And then we can conclude that the policy of delivering Israeli strikes against Syrian military facilities in response to attacks by any terrorists is aimed exclusively at weakening the Syrian state and disrupting any possible agreements with this state.
    5. victorsh
      victorsh 16 January 2017 09: 12
      +41
      There is a Russian proverb: A hat is on fire on a thief. I personally DO NOT UNDERSTAND when many "cry" about the Holocaust. They killed 6 million Jews and EVERYONE IS OBLIGED to cry. EVERYTHING !!! AND FORGET ABOUT 28 million SOVIET citizens of which data of the military personnel who died) and 9 million "Soviet" Jews were SLAVS!
      Why did the Jews "forget" about their bankers who brought Hitler to power?
      Why do you "forget" that during the Second World War, the USA NEVER bombed enterprises where the American "Jewish" capital was located.
      And the supply of spare parts through Hitler Germany in Spain during the Second World War, you probably forgot?
      And why in your state there is no monument to its founder, I.V. Stalin?
      You can write a LOT. Gospoda Jews, DO NOT need to "do" without serebryannikov. The coup in Ukraine confirms. Who is in power? JEW.
      PS I respect ordinary Jews — they are EXCELLENT hard workers — but the state of Israel reminds me of Hitler Germany. At first, the Sudeten (Palestinian territories), the Golan Heights. The expansion of living space does not resemble anything?
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 16 January 2017 09: 19
        +9
        Quote: victorsh
        I respect ordinary Jews — they are EXCELLENT hard workers — but the state of Israel reminds me of Hitler Germany. At first, the Sudetenland (Palestinian territories), the Golan Heights. The expansion of living space does not resemble anything?

        You will still be surprised, but in fact there is a lot in common. But Israeli lawyers have a very flexible and long neck, which allows you to look from the other side at any phenomenon, even if this phenomenon is truly historical ...

        The next question is for Israeli policy advocates.
        Tell me, dear ones, what moral and legal assessment would you give a series of eugenic experiments in which children receive a radiation dose of the order of 3-4 Gy? Well, they die a little after that - the dose is fatal, especially if you irradiate your head.

        And is there a significant difference in the assessment of these actions, depending on who is the subject and object of these actions - namely, if the experimenters and experimental are Jewish (Israeli citizens) or are not (that is, all 4 possible situations).

        Necessary clarification - the situation under discussion occurs after the Nyurbern processes (including the trial of Nazi doctors), the Tokyo process and the Khabarovsk process.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 16 January 2017 09: 57
          +2
          They will not answer you anything, they will keep silent.
          1. Mik13
            Mik13 16 January 2017 10: 03
            +5
            Quote: AKuzenka
            They will not answer you anything, they will keep silent.

            In this case, "keep silent" is a much clearer answer than those who kept silence would like. Especially in a specific situation. They know why I asked such a question ...
      2. 97110
        97110 16 January 2017 13: 03
        +3
        Quote: victorsh
        were SLAVES!

        You have entertaining arithmetic. I never once object to the topic of holocaust exaggeration. As well as the genocide of exclusively Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. Only in the USSR lived not only Jews and Slavs. And among the Slavs, I also count Poles and Croats. And the Bulgarians and the Czechoslovakians are still "brothers". Karelians, Komi, Chuvash, Mordovians, Bashkirs, Tatars and so on - are they Slavs? Or were they not among those killed and tortured by the Europeans? And "tse Europeans"? Your exit is not at all more beautiful in comparison with those chosen by God.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 16 January 2017 14: 42
          +17
          97110 Today, 13:03 ↑ New
          Karelians, Komi, Chuvash, Mordovians, Bashkirs, Tatars and so on - are they Slavs? Or were they not among those killed and tortured by the Europeans? And "tse Europeans"? Your exit is not at all more beautiful in comparison with those chosen by God.
          Forgive for God's sake, I in no way want to cast a shadow on the participation and contribution of all, without exception, the peoples of the USSR to our Victory! But what is the percentage of peoples tortured by the Germans, compared with the Slavs ?! Hitler spoke very clearly and ambiguously on the Slavic issue.
          "The Russians are a lower race than the Germans, over which a monstrous ideology is established. And who established it?" For centuries, Russia lived at the expense of the German core in its upper strata of the population. Now this core is completely exterminated to the end. The Germans took the place Jews. But just as the Russians cannot throw off the yoke of the Jews by their own efforts, so the Jews alone cannot keep this huge state under their control for a long time. "
          So he destroyed the Russians in no way less than the Jews. And in the SS parts of the Jews there was a lot of Jews, so who destroyed whom is still a very big question.
          1. 97110
            97110 16 January 2017 15: 46
            0
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            But what is the percentage of peoples tortured by the Germans, compared with the Slavs ?! Hitler spoke very clearly and ambiguously on the Slavic issue.
            "Russians -

            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            So he destroyed the Russians in no way less than the Jews.

            Be consistent - Hitler talked about the Russians. Without even touching the topic "Russians are the name of the Soviet in the West", which reflects Hitler's uncompromising struggle with the Bulgarians, Croats, Czechs and Slovaks? And what about chanting nachtigall in Ukrainian and Belarusian? Everything was normal there with regard to the Slavs. They were, of course, in line for destruction. But later, when in front of them only true Aryans such as Estonians will remain.
          2. 97110
            97110 16 January 2017 16: 00
            +4
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            So he destroyed the Russians in no way less than the Jews.

            Dear Diana. I do not want to defend the interests of the Jews who suffered from Hitler. I am not satisfied with the imposition of our blood enemies (catholicized Western Slavs) into "brothers" on the basis of some kind of "Slavism" with the rejection of truly close non-Slavic peoples. It is simply dangerous to impose on blood enemies as friends, pushing away close neighbors. Maxim would applaud you, but he's busy - tears are choking and dripping ...
          3. Orakul2000
            Orakul2000 16 January 2017 22: 16
            +7
            Dear Diana,
            You would be silent about the Jews in the SS because by definition they could not be there, there was a very tough selection. But I’ll enlighten you about the Slavs and the Russians serving in the Wehrmacht, and what’s called, have a difference: “Constantly reproaching the neighbors for fascism and the formation of SS divisions during World War II, the Russians bashfully forget that the lion's share of the SS units in the occupied territories was manned Russian soldiers. Unlike Latvians, Estonians and Ukrainians, who gained one division each from strength, there were more than a dozen Russian units and SS formations:

            - Volunteer SS regiment "Varyag".
            - 1-th Russian national brigade SS "Druzhina".
            - 15-th Cossack Cavalry Corps SS.
            - 29-I Grenadier Division of the SS "RONA" (1-I Russian).
            - 30-I Grenadier Division of the SS (2-I Russian).
            - 36-I Grenadier Division of the SS "Dirlewanger."

            HOUSES SS MILITARY OF THE MAIN OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT OF THE SS FHA-SS
            - 15-th Cossack Russian Corps of the SS FHA-SS- 3 divisions, 16 regiments.
            - SS FHA-SS (Military-SS)
            - 29-I Russian FHA-SS - 6 regiments.
            - 30-I Russian FHA-SS, 1-th formation 1944g. - 5 regiments.

            EMPIRE SECURITY MAJOR BRIGADES SS RSHA-SS
            - 1-I Russian national brigade SS "Druzhina" - 3 regiment, 12 battalions.
            - 1-I Guards brigade ROA "Sonderkommanda 113" SD - 1 battalion, 2 companies.
            - The brigade of the SS "Center of the anti-Bolshevik struggle" (CPBB) - 3 battalion.
            - Reconnaissance and sabotage connection of the Main Team “Russia - Center” of the Zeppelin Sonderstaff RSXA-SS - 4 special forces detachment.

            The figure in 1,5 million accomplices of fascism is comparable only with the total number of mobilized citizens of Hitler's allies (Italy, Spain, Hungary, Romania, Finland, Croatia, Slovakia) - about 2 million people. For comparison, I will indicate the number mobilized in other countries conquered by Hitler: Denmark - less than 5 thousand, France - less than 10 thousand, Poland - 20 thousand, Belgium - 38 thousand troops ...
            In addition to the total (total) number of traitors-accomplices from the USSR, the German archives have preserved exact data on the number of Germans mobilized into the army from the territory of the USSR: the RSFSR - 800 thousand, Ukraine - 250 thousand, Belarus - 47 thousand, Latvia - 88 thousand ., Estonia - 69 thousand, Lithuania - 20 thousand military personnel, representatives of the peoples of the North Caucasus - 30 thousand, Georgians - 20 thousand, Armenians - 18 thousand, Azerbaijanis - 35 thousand, Volga Tatars - 40 thousand, Crimean Tatars - 17 thousand and Kalmyks - 5 thousand
            Of the surviving 2,4 million Soviet prisoners (and mortality among Soviet prisoners exceeded 60%), approximately 950 thousand entered the service of various anti-Soviet armed units of the Wehrmacht. ”
            (source: Monograph Russian collaboration during the Second World War. / Igor Garin)
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 19 January 2017 11: 21
              +2
              Bryan Mark Rigg published his final work, Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and People of Jewish Descent in the German Army. Bryan Mark Rigg. Hitlers Juedische Soldaten. Paderborn-Muenchen-Wien-Zuerich, 2003.[/B]
              http://9e-maya.com/index.php?
              The book states that 150 German Jews served in the Wehrmacht. In the main in the Navy, in the Air Force, in tank troops. In the SS were also officers (even the admiral submariner)
              Regarding Monograph [b] Russian collaboration during the Second World War. / Igor Garin.
              I understand this is your relative, if you recommend this muddy source. Author Svidomy, from the word went nuts, and you quote. Ayayayay. In the evening I will bring sources of trust.
              1. Orakul2000
                Orakul2000 19 January 2017 13: 15
                0
                And what did you want to show with this post? Did you read the book itself? In the Reich, you considered Jews who have great-great-grandfather and great-great-grandfather to be Jews. That is, 4 generations ago. The assimilation over the 100 years before the Great Patriotic War of German Jews was so wide that so many families absolutely broke with their Jewish past. And by the time World War II began, there were 100% Germans.
                The search for the old Jewish roots of these soldiers was done for 2 reasons, 1) To justify anti-Semitism, as if to make Jews accomplices of Nazi crimes, 2. To retouch the participation of other nations on the side of Hitler's Germany. Regarding the Svidomo of the author-to put it mildly not an argument. Your disagreement with him is not yet the factor that this study is not true. And one more small point, you want to discuss, let's do it culturally and without questions with self-response and tantrums.
                1. Mavrikiy
                  Mavrikiy 19 January 2017 19: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Orakul2000
                  And what did you want to show with this post?
                  Good. Let's go from the stove.
                  1. A review of Israeli actions was conducted. The question of lawfulness and justice arose. They recalled the far-fetched segregation of Jews from racial extermination by the Nazis. And they indicated that the Jews were not only victims, but also performers, all the way to service in the SS.
                  2. You fell to the position of a bazaar woman, like: "himself durak". And Russians with
                  puddled millions of the Wehrmacht. In evidence, the work of the senile Russophobe from Bandera, while defending his nonsense. [/ b] [b]
                  3. All the Jews who fought on our side are Russians, all the Jews who fought on Hitler's side are Germans. There was a war of two systems and there is no need to isolate, expose and poke their victims to the whole world. All made a sacrifice to the Victory.
                  Have you read the book itself?
                  Online.
                  In the Reich, those with great-great-grandfather and great-great-grandfather were considered Jews as Jews.
                  No, the book is limited to grandfathers. Was reading!
                  Regarding the Svidomo of the author-to put it mildly not an argument.
                  Another one! You are fascists, as a source of pure truth will you quote?
                  Your disagreement with him is not yet the factor that this study is not true. This is not research, but the delirium of a madman, can delirium be true?
                  And one more small point, you want to discuss, let's do it culturally and without questions with self-response and tantrums.

                  You didn’t wipe my snot, I hope I don’t have to wipe your snot.
                  1. Mavrikiy
                    Mavrikiy 19 January 2017 20: 01
                    0
                    http://beloepyatno.blogspot.ru/2009/07/blog-post_
                    30.html
                    - the total number of Soviet citizens and Russian emigrants in the Wehrmacht, SS troops, police and paramilitary groups amounted to 1,2 million people (including Slavs - up to 700 thousand, representatives of three Baltic peoples - up to 300 thousand, representatives of Turkic, Caucasian and other small nations - up to 200 thousand).
                    According to other sources, thousand people:
                    Russian -310
                    Ukrainians -250
                    Belarusians - 19. http://feldgrau.info/other/14052-inostrannye-legi
                    ony
                    And this is understandable. The Civil War, dispossession has not yet been forgotten. The Baltic states and the Western regions of Ukraine are only annexed. Emigrants Cossacks - 70 thousand hours. That's gaining.
    6. max702
      max702 16 January 2017 11: 41
      +3
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us.

      Yeah .. What what. and the "corporate" solidarity of comrades from the Promised Land is strong like nothing else .. And the motto "He's a son of a bitch .. BUT he's our son of a bitch!" Made at the forefront ...
      1. Ljubomir
        Ljubomir 16 January 2017 12: 06
        +1
        I'm sorry, what. and the "corporate" solidarity of comrades from the Promised Land is as strong as nothing else

        And the Jewish repatriates not from the Ukrainian SSR emigrated to Israel for the most part? At least on this site, writing? Is there no "corporate solidarity" with the Ukrainians as with closer former compatriots in hatred of Russians?
    7. Ivanov17
      Ivanov17 16 January 2017 12: 43
      +8
      Israeli "muzhiks" have nothing to reply to the article. Is that only by the type: "yourself." and this is "The Secret of the Punchinel", except for your fellow tribesmen. who assure us from the TV screens of the "small and freedom-loving" state in a hostile environment, fighting terror. "Here is Yakov Kedmi" hangs noodles "for the Russians that the most affected state is in from the bandits this is Israel. I will not be surprised if Soloviev will soon bring Agvidor Lieberman or Benjamin Netanyahu to his program in order to create a "public opinion" about Russian-Israeli friendship. Soloviev will soon fill his entire "ring" with "Russian-speaking" figures with double citizenship or even citizens of Israel. And on TV Israel will give, for example, to regularly speak and voice the point of view, for example, Prokhanov, Polyakov, Shevchenko, Mironov, etc.?
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us. wink
    8. antivirus
      antivirus 16 January 2017 12: 47
      +1
      We are accustomed to the fact that our Israeli readers proudly stated in the comments that "we have such a policy." To kick back answer.
      there is a root cause, wisely "forgotten" by all Jews - ownership of land. Private property . specific. personal plots. For centuries, the Arabs owned without pieces of paper, encouraged and rescued them from "raider" seizures by word and tradition. Created Israel and requisitioned land. Or Arabs fled. and the Jews use it without the consent of the owner.
      Separately, WATER.
      Separately, the right of the nation to self-determination.
      Separately, Israel is terribly shot through.
      Separately, without financial assistance, they are bankrupt.
      Separately, "revenge is a cold dish." The Arabs will remember their "exodus" from Israel for another 100-300 years.
      Separately, the determination to die in their own land: to both Arabs and Jews.
      Separately, the interests of Jews in the Western world, over time, because of the dough, forget "their sacred duty" to help Israel.
      All together - you cannot stick a bayonet in and live in peace, you can restlessly stand on the "guard of conquests" with a bayonet attached.
      And this is without prospects for 20-30 years in advance
      No conclusions.
    9. victorsh
      victorsh 16 January 2017 12: 52
      +5
      I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us.
      May I receive the third and last warning, but not ALL UNDERSTAND your "men". Therefore, YOU ARE NOT RESPECTED T-RL
      1. teder
        teder 16 January 2017 12: 59
        0
        Quote: victorsh
        I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us.
        May I receive the third and last warning, but not ALL UNDERSTAND your "men". Therefore, YOU ARE NOT RESPECTED T-RL

        Aron simply does not know that the word man, for a certain contingent (as a rule, those who improved their knowledge, skills in places not so distant) is perceived as an insult.
        Forgive him for this, not by knowledge, but not with malicious intent.
        If I knew I wrote, male citizens of Russia
        1. 97110
          97110 16 January 2017 14: 29
          +1
          Quote: teder
          If I knew I wrote, male citizens of Russia

          In Soviet times in Rostov on the street. My friend's port is from the Arkhangelsk region. went to a beer house and asked the line "Guys! Who is the last one?" Was beaten by the Cossacks Art. Nizhnegnilovskaya for insulting the Cossacks.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 16 January 2017 22: 52
            +5
            Quote: 97110
            Cossacks Art. Nizhnegnilovskaya
            Excuse me, where did the Cossacks come from in Rostov in Soviet times from st. Nizhnegnilovskaya, if it has long been a district of the city, and the "Don Cossacks" in Rostov became visible only by the 90s. "Lord Ahvitzer" everything. But so that "Cossacks" began to beat up for a "man" in Soviet times ... This is something exclusive. hi Blue bulls, not Cossacks.
            1. 97110
              97110 16 January 2017 23: 12
              0
              Quote: Stanislav
              But so that "Cossacks" began to beat for the "man" in Soviet times near the pub

              Believe me. Blue bulls are not bad from natural Cossacks.
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 17 January 2017 00: 45
                +1
                Quote: 97110
                Believe me. Blue bulls are not bad from natural Cossacks.
                I would be glad to believe, but the experience of staying in Rostov beer halls, a deep acquaintance with their holiday atmosphere and fun, studying the norms and customs of different peoples and social groups within this wonderful world of Rostov beer hall allow me to talk about it endlessly. But I didn’t meet the Cossacks there request And the address "man" could have rudely responded in the style of "men in the field plow" unless a couple of years sat and mowed under a thug addict. But to beat "for insulting the Cossacks" after the appeal "men" ... Exclusive. Your friends are very lucky. On Gnilovskaya now and about the village of Nizhnegnilovskaya, few people probably remember. I myself only knew Nizhnegnilovskaya Street at that time, but I had never heard of the villages of Nizhne- and Verkhnegnilovskaya until the mid-80s somewhere, until I started to study.
                1. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 17 January 2017 01: 46
                  0
                  PS
                  Quote: Stanislav
                  On Gnilovskaya now, few people probably remember about the village of Nizhnegnilovskaya.
                  Perhaps, in the post-Soviet period, the "revived Cossacks" on the one hand, contributed to a better acquaintance of the townspeople with the history of the city, on the other hand, this "Cossacks", since there were no traces of the estate or even the ethnic group, which some Cossacks considered themselves to be, in the city. Before the revolution, it was a merchant city, a center of the grain trade. You could still hear something in Novocherkassk, but I can't even imagine it there. This is exactly the 90s, "when the Don Cossacks revolted, a coup took place on Portovaya" ...
        2. Ivanov17
          Ivanov17 16 January 2017 17: 39
          +5
          Arosha understands everything. He mentioned the men and emphasized the Russians. Say, let these bastards, the Wahlaks and plebeians "come out of the forest" and discuss the "buffoonery" of this article. worthy of "their discussion
          Quote: teder
          Quote: victorsh
          I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us.
          May I receive the third and last warning, but not ALL UNDERSTAND your "men". Therefore, YOU ARE NOT RESPECTED T-RL

          Aron simply does not know that the word man, for a certain contingent (as a rule, those who improved their knowledge, skills in places not so distant) is perceived as an insult.
          Forgive him for this, not by knowledge, but not with malicious intent.
          If I knew I wrote, male citizens of Russia
          1. teder
            teder 16 January 2017 19: 25
            +5
            Quote: ivanov17
            Arosha understands everything. He remembered and emphasized the Russians as men. They say, let these bastards, Wahlaks and plebeians "come out of the forest" and discuss the "buffoonery" of this article.

            I see that there are quite a few comrades on the site who are looking for a hidden or overt insult in every word, and if they don’t find it, they say, of course — we are goyim, they don’t even insult us. wink

            Quote: ivanov17
            Have fun, but they "smart" will not do it,or rather, this article is not "worthy" of their discussion

            Judging by the number of comments of the Israelis, apparently they think so.
            1. Ivanov17
              Ivanov17 16 January 2017 22: 50
              +1
              And they do not consider themselves equal to anyone else. The discovery was made for someone.?
              Quote: teder
              Quote: ivanov17
              Arosha understands everything. He remembered and emphasized the Russians as men. They say, let these bastards, Wahlaks and plebeians "come out of the forest" and discuss the "buffoonery" of this article.

              I see that there are quite a few comrades on the site who are looking for a hidden or overt insult in every word, and if they don’t find it, they say, of course — we are goyim, they don’t even insult us. wink

              Quote: ivanov17
              Have fun, but they "smart" will not do it,or rather, this article is not "worthy" of their discussion

              Judging by the number of comments of the Israelis, apparently they think so.
    10. venik
      venik 16 January 2017 18: 07
      0
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us. wink

      ===
      Oh my god !!! (as they say in Odessa). And immediately everything is clear!
  2. alex-cn
    alex-cn 16 January 2017 06: 49
    +5
    "But the fact that Tehran has more opportunities to harm us is for sure."
    "More believe in the desire to get more at the expense of a weakened neighbor."
    That is the essence of Israeli politics.
  3. K-50
    K-50 16 January 2017 07: 08
    +25
    How do we properly interpret the policies of Israel?

    In fact, unprovoked attacks on neighboring sovereign territory have always been interpreted as AGGRESSION.
    Has something changed from what Israel inflicts on them? Yes, even Balochistan or lunatics from the moon.
    Moreover, Israel inflicts them on the state for many years waging a civil war on its territory with terrorist rabble from all over the world. Moreover, in addition to strikes, Israel is seen in the supply of weapons and ammunition, as well as in the treatment of terrorists on its territory, that is, "throwing firewood" into the fire of the civil war.
    And how else can this be interpreted besides AGGRESSION? request sad
  4. Samarin
    Samarin 16 January 2017 07: 41
    +3
    How do we properly interpret the policies of Israel?

    What does the United States indicate to their satellite, then they do what is incomprehensible here?
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 January 2017 07: 50
    +6
    Israel acts exclusively in its own interests, therefore it has long put everything and everything. That is all politics.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 16 January 2017 08: 14
      +9
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Israel acts exclusively in its own interests ...

      - I'm sorry ... do you know countries that act against their interests? Or act in their own interests?
      - do not work. There are no such countries. Assad’s help to the Russian Federation as an example is not to be offered - the Russian Federation solves its own problems there, and Assad is there on the side of the priest yes
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 16 January 2017 08: 27
        +4
        I know countries that still adhere to international law in the implementation of their foreign policy. I think it is not necessary to call? And Assad from which side stuck?
        1. teder
          teder 16 January 2017 08: 48
          +4
          Quote: rotmistr60
          I know countries that still adhere to international law in the implementation of their foreign policy. I think it is not necessary to call? And Assad from which side stuck?

          You can call it if it does not
      2. K-50
        K-50 16 January 2017 09: 19
        +9
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        - I'm sorry ... do you know countries that act against their interests? Or act in their own interests?
        - do not work. Such countries

        Easily.
        EU countries and Tribolds. Anti-Russian sanctions are not beneficial for them, damage to the economy is being done, but nonetheless Fushington supported their own squeal.
        As the saying goes, "they chew a cactus, prick, cry and chew anyway." request yes laughing
        1. teder
          teder 16 January 2017 09: 30
          +1
          Quote: K-50
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - I'm sorry ... do you know countries that act against their interests? Or act in their own interests?
          - do not work. Such countries

          Easily.
          EU countries and Tribolds. Anti-Russian sanctions are not beneficial for them, damage to the economy is being done, but nonetheless Fushington supported their own squeal.
          As the saying goes, "they chew a cactus, prick, cry and chew anyway." request yes laughing

          the conversation was about international law - you did not answer
          Further, only Trump said that he was kind of ready to lift the sanctions - EU countries raised a howl - saying that they would not cancel - comment.
          И
          1. K-50
            K-50 16 January 2017 09: 57
            +6
            Quote: teder
            the conversation was about international law - you did not answer

            But what is harming one's own economy is not an act against one’s interests? belay And against whose then?
            Thanks to the sanctions and anti-sanctions introduced by Russia, our manufacturers in industry and agriculture were able to increase sales of their products in the country, expanded their product range, and thanks to this, the profitability of their activities. For Russia, this is good, for the EU and others who have completely or partially closed the Russian market, this is definitely not good.
            So to whom then are these sanctions harmful?
            Trump may want to lift the sanctions, but very poorly believed Congress will be against it.
            The EU countries, if they do not lift the sanctions, will face a high probability of political death of their governments, elections are coming soon in many countries and this is a chance for the opposition, because it will not be possible to clearly explain why they are spreading rot on their own producers and taxpayers. Everyone wants to eat, but in order to eat you have to earn money, but "sanction lovers" do not give. What the voters will do with them - they will give them a ride at the elections. yes
            1. teder
              teder 16 January 2017 10: 35
              +1
              My question was about your statement about international law.
              Further, I am sure that anti-sanctions also harm Russia.
              What do you say about this? And at first do not forget to answer, with respect hi
      3. You Vlad
        You Vlad 16 January 2017 11: 47
        +1
        For example, Ukraine repeat
        1. teder
          teder 16 January 2017 12: 28
          0
          Quote: you Vlad
          For example, Ukraine repeat

          international.
    2. avt
      avt 16 January 2017 09: 58
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Israel acts exclusively in its own interests, therefore it has long put everything and everything. That is all politics.

      laughing good ,,
      Sagittarius walked around me!
      The nuclear power of the region is in the military part, having a real triad of medium radius. People around, even if SUDDENLY Arabs realize that "Pushkin is our everything"
      Let’s become, brothers, for Dodon, Let’s ask the enemy a chime!
      then all one screwed up, as always.
      Quote: taypan
      Then it is necessary to strengthen Iran, as opposed to Israel.

      laughing What's the difference !? Have you forgotten about the "little Satan" performed by the Iranians? Well, they will remind you. Even though Iran has been crushed from Persia for a while, it is the state of mind that the imperial people are on the rise. So your advice fits into - "I am cut off, but I do not give up." at both ends. bully Athez was right when he realized that the straits into the lung and with the help of Israel, which he actively helped in the creation of weapons and diplomacy, would not receive. Here Athez hammered a bolt on the region, and Khrushch got in foolishly, with all the stupid power, so much so that Uncle Lena was finally shown the door in Egypt .. Now, here's how the GDP has balanced the policy quite in the spirit and concept of the local places, well, without idiotic antics like rewarding the same Nasser with the star of the Hero of the USSR and the massive delivery of equipment for oranges for scrap and Jews for trophies.
    3. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 16 January 2017 11: 43
      0
      therefore, for a long time I put everything on everyone

      Laid for one reason only - unconditional US support, thanks to the Jewish lobby.
  6. krops777
    krops777 16 January 2017 07: 59
    +5
    Israel is only a tool to achieve the goals of backstage players, and they have one goal to hell the Al-Aqsa Mosque (Omar) and build their own temple to meet their master (the Antichrist), given that Trump will still have that orthodox Toli, so there’s a war in the east, it will continue until the complete discredit of Islam as a religion in general and the destruction of adjacent Arab states.
    1. taypan
      taypan 16 January 2017 08: 08
      +6
      Then it is necessary to strengthen Iran, as opposed to Israel.
      1. INTA_VEGA
        INTA_VEGA 16 January 2017 14: 44
        +2
        What are we doing. Remember the supply of S-300 and other weapons, the pro-Iranian position in the negotiations on the atom.
  7. cap
    cap 16 January 2017 08: 08
    +2
    The United States is still providing military assistance to Israel for $ 5 billion a year. Since 1977 And plus another contractor from 2016 for $ 48 billion. And then in Israel, the prime minister is criticized: they say, cheaper ...


    They say that they’ve cheapened. They’ll subtract it for the planes now, it’s good to count. only the salaries and pensions of the military will remain. The outgoing administration of B. Obama has real misfortunes. They could also add to the state debt of 20 trillion, the Americans a billion, like an elephant. From Trump, it’s unlikely that you will get money. The White House, after it turned out to be off the paycheck. It’s going to work as president for one dollar a year, just do not expect good things.
    1. taypan
      taypan 16 January 2017 08: 18
      +2
      A Jew refused money ?? !! Come on, their relative Mendel will drive the money. And who are the Rotenbergs and others? Now, if Russia, like the USSR, severed diplomatic relations with Israel. And canceled all economic and tourist relations with this country. That would be a good kick ... for ...
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 16 January 2017 09: 00
        +4
        Quote: taypan
        Now, if Russia, as the USSR broke off diplomatic relations with Israel, and canceled all economic and tourist relations with this country

        - And whose flag does it glow there?
        - And why exactly from under this flag tips are given what and how to do the Russian Federation?

        I do not understand request
        1. novel66
          novel66 16 January 2017 09: 34
          +3
          Yes, don’t look at the flag,
          1. novel66
            novel66 16 January 2017 09: 35
            +3
            and here’s another one - it’s just that the anti-torrent program goes around
        2. taypan
          taypan 16 January 2017 09: 35
          +1
          Cat Man Null. I already wrote 48 times !!! I COME FROM A SMARTPHONE, through Opera, Mini. So it is more clear. You are a smart person.
    2. teder
      teder 16 January 2017 09: 34
      +1
      Quote: cap
      The United States is still providing military assistance to Israel for $ 5 billion a year. Since 1977 And plus another contractor from 2016 for $ 48 billion. And then in Israel, the prime minister is criticized: they say, cheaper ...


      .

      As far as I remember, Israel (like Egypt) will receive 3.3 billion a year under the Camp David Treaty.
      The new contract is 38 billion for 10 years.
      Roman gave wrong figures.
  8. Baloo
    Baloo 16 January 2017 08: 25
    +11
    But how “igilovskie” their own for the Israelis is another question
    Well, why?
  9. raid14
    raid14 16 January 2017 09: 08
    +6
    Chaos in Syria plays into the hands of Israel, they adhere to the UDV principle of "devour each other."
    The more Syria and Iran are weakened, the better, and after the partition of Syria, the Sunni militants in the future hope to direct the Israeli authorities to weaken Shiite Iran.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 16 January 2017 12: 55
      0
      others will grow quickly - there are too many people
  10. The splinter
    The splinter 16 January 2017 10: 40
    +3
    Since Israel does not extradite wanted persons on the territory of the Russian Federation, it is not possible to name its friendly policy.
  11. novel66
    novel66 16 January 2017 10: 49
    +6
    to run fast - you have to be a black man, to shoot well - you have to be white to understand Israeli politics - you have to be a Jew. we are all different
  12. iouris
    iouris 16 January 2017 11: 29
    +3
    How is it correct? I scribble: Israel, behind which the United States stands, on behalf of the "world community", shows the Russian Federation its place in the Middle East (and in general). Nothing, let's go to bed.
  13. Galleon
    Galleon 16 January 2017 12: 22
    +5
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    Another question, how will Israel feel if subsidies and military-technical assistance run out? The question is anger, in the states comes big Trump, and he looks at many things in his own way ...

    Each president has his own Monica Lewinsky (Jewish, by the way), each Strauss-Kahn has an old ugly AIDS patient maid. They operate flawlessly and on the spot.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 16 January 2017 12: 57
      0
      this is useful.
      Others will come replacing comfort for risk and exorbitant labor. Will pass ... for three
  14. Приговор
    Приговор 16 January 2017 12: 48
    +7
    It should be remembered that the state of Israel is openly hostile to Russia and the Russians. The events in Ukraine, where the Israeli special services are tied up for the most "I do not want", as well as the events in Georgia in 2008, are very clear evidence of this. Yes, Israel is happy to have a business in Russia (carefully looking for some technologies not to get here), but at the same time it shelters all fugitive thieves of Jewish origin on its territory, quietly supplies weapons, medicines, ammunition, food to the "Syrian opposition". You and I know very well who this bearded "opposition" really is. Thus, for Israel, there are the right terrorists from the "opposition" and the wrong ones - these are the Shiites from Hezbollah. Two-faced position, to say the least. Behind the "protests" of our home-grown opposition, we also clearly see the ears of the Israeli special services, because it is foolish to deny that the so-called "opposition leaders" in Russia are mostly people of a quite definite nationality, i.e. living in Russia and being its citizens - they are not just patriots, but simply loyal citizens. It should be understood that many "cultural figures" of Russia have exchanged their reputation and good name for a very real deal from the Israeli special services. We see the example of the Makarevichs-Akhidzhakovs-Venediktovs and the rest of the Alekseevs. Perhaps in Israel we are considered blind or very patient. But, gentlemen, there is a limit to everything, including Russian patience. I assure you that they do not write about us in the Western and Israeli "independent" press - our government still has to reckon with the opinion of the overwhelming majority of the citizens of this country.
  15. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 16 January 2017 12: 55
    +1
    Jews, they are such Jews!
  16. cedar
    cedar 16 January 2017 13: 03
    +2
    Quote: krops777
    Israel is only a tool to achieve the goals of backstage players, and their goal is to demolish the Al-Aqsa Mosque (Omar) and build their own temple to meet their master (the Antichrist), considering that Trump will still have that orthodox Toli, so the war in the east will continue until the complete discrediting of Islam as a religion as a whole and the destruction of adjacent Arab states.


    From "not a boy's speech, but a husband's." Top ten respected, krops777.
    What does this mean?
    And this means that there is a RELIGIOUS war in BV. About the difference between conventional and religious wars, let Roman dig and write, revered, time has ripened.
    See at the root of the war in the BV, dear.


  17. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 16 January 2017 14: 18
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    Oh no "professor" and "atalef" .. That would be something like that ..
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    Aron, hi! It is clear that the Israelis will support and strongly endorse the policies of their country. So do not shirk the dialogue, otherwise you will get smack and there will be srach, cruel, merciless and senseless!
    Personally, my opinion on this matter is that there is some kind of Makhnovism in Israel ... It seems that they are defending their interests, but sometimes actions cross out previous achievements. Sometimes it comes out weird. And, apparently, on many issues there is simply blatant irresponsibility!
    Another question, how will Israel feel if subsidies and military-technical assistance run out? The question is anger, in the states comes big Trump, and he looks at many things in his own way ...

    I have not been to the site for a long time. And what happened to these peppers?
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 18 January 2017 17: 51
      +2
      I have not been to the site for a long time. And what happened to these peppers?
      In APU volunteers went.
  18. Operator
    Operator 16 January 2017 14: 28
    +4
    Israel in 1947 was created by the founders (the USA and the USSR, as well as their satellites at the UN) as a state designed to live only one nation. In full accordance with this is the domestic policy of Israel, aimed at creating an apartheid regime and racial segregation.

    There is no problem with this, but only on one condition - if this policy is carried out strictly within the UN-established borders of Israel. However, Israel, by its own decision, occupied the territory of the Arab state of Palestine and the international zone of Jerusalem, where it also pursues its racist policy.

    Of particular indignation among Christians and Muslims is Israel's impudent capture of the holy city of Jerusalem, which should be governed exclusively by the UN and not be part of the Jewish and Arab states.

    It is the fact of the occupation of foreign territory that causes acute rejection in the vast majority of countries, reaching some of them to the desire to eliminate Israel. Therefore, the racists and, most importantly, the occupying Israelis themselves are to blame for their international isolation, which will only increase.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 January 2017 11: 54
      0
      The United States created Israel as part of a course to destroy the British Empire. Stalin could not oppose this policy. But who created the USA and the USSR? There is a debate about what happened before - a chicken or an egg.
      1. Operator
        Operator 17 January 2017 12: 02
        0
        The Russian Land / Russian Kingdom / Russian Empire / USSR / RF and the USA (unlike Israel) created the peoples of these countries. Dates of creation can be found on Wikipedia.

        At the moment, the constitutions of the Russian Federation and the United States clearly identify the people as the sovereign of each country.

        Golem Israel was created from outside by the UN General Assembly, which is its sovereign.
  19. Photon
    Photon 16 January 2017 14: 52
    0
    Not when I did not consider the Jews stupid. But, Israeli foreign policy is still surprising. Everyone is fighting and fighting. They fought with Arafat and the PLO. And it was already possible to agree on something, but the struggle continued. Got Hezbola. Now they are fighting with Assad. Something seems to me that they won’t really like the victory. Iran will not go anywhere, and will not become a friend. ISIS will be added to Hezbolah near the borders of Israel. I think for Israel the best strategy is not a constant war, but coexistence with those opponents with whom you can negotiate.
  20. Babermetis
    Babermetis 16 January 2017 15: 02
    +4
    By and large, the author is right in his analysis. All facts indicate an agreement between the Security Council of Israel and Ter. Org located in Syria near the borders of Izr. and the Hashemite kingdom of Yor. But also at SB Jord. there are such arrangements. If you look through the points of a military man, then the conclusion coincides with the opinion of the author of the article. If you change points for regional security, you can see the benefits of pulling together radical forces into limited hot conflict zones in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and the Sinai. Well, what to do, since Islam gives rise to such a large number of rel. fanatics, not patriots of their countries? Like it not, but Caliphates and countries have different concepts and the interests of caliphates and citizens of countries differ. Countries: Israel, Jordan and Egypt (I do not want to talk about the manarchies of the Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf) - but somehow agreed to protect statehood from the caliphate. Nationalists united against the Islamists. Syria offered to get closer, but Assad (both) decided to secure their power in alliance with the Shiite-style Islamists of Iran, which in turn, although it does not build the Caliphate, creates a solid foundation for the state, which, according to their calculations, will be a springboard for the world spread of Islam - fire and sword . I do not understand Russia in this regard, in fact. If you see yourself as Muslims in the near future, this is one thing, then cooperation with Iran is understandable. And if you see the Russian world in front of you, then why are you feeding the Persian bear? It will not become manual anyway. Perhaps Russia, like Israel, expects a change in Ayatol in Iran, but then why cooperate with them in the field of the atom, who will give guarantees that he will be put into peaceful hands?
    1. avt
      avt 16 January 2017 16: 06
      +6
      Quote: Babermetis
      Syria offered to get closer, but Assad (both) decided to secure their power in alliance with Shiite-style Islamists of Iran

      wassat I beg you! No need to do funny things. I will not say for dad, but my son really went to negotiations WITHOUT preconditions, but in fact without a preliminary surrender of the Golan.
      Quote: Babermetis
      which, in turn, although it does not build the Caliphate, it creates a solid foundation for the state, which, according to their calculations, will be a springboard for the global spread of Islam - fire and sword.

      But how did you want that? A holy place is never empty . When they began to demand “democratization” from Assad, who, to whom, and the Jews on the spot certainly should not have foreseen what, but simply knew that the IRGC would appear at the border in the north. bully
      Quote: Babermetis
      I do not understand Russia in this regard, in fact. If you see yourself as Muslims in the near future this is one thing, then cooperation with Iran is understandable

      Do you offer cheat? Like, well, why do we need to live with Ryazan, dirt and dust everywhere, make circumcision together and leave for Israel? wassat bully Buy a rooster when you bring it and turn it on, even if all the peasants in our country are circumcised, you will not be your own. You have the same blood, but Muslims have such a concept as a client of the one who converted and will never be equal.
      Quote: Babermetis
      . And if you see the Russian world in front of you, then why are you feeding the Persian bear? It will not become manual anyway.

      bully To the chief man, I am not a connoisseur in the animal kingdom of Persia. Are there bears there ?? wassat No, I understand the genetic "love" of Jews for the Persians, described in the Old Testament. But what have we to do with it ??? But these are YOUR graters, we have a business gesheft - nothing personal
      Quote: Babermetis
      , who will give guarantees that he will put on peaceful hands?

      request Packs for Saudi money are not like a peaceful atom, they just bought a bomb and somehow Israel does not bomb them.
      1. Babermetis
        Babermetis 16 January 2017 17: 13
        +4
        Well, if you deign to write a translation into Russian, there will probably be something to discuss.
        1. avt
          avt 16 January 2017 18: 12
          +2
          Quote: Babermetis
          Well, if you deign to write a translation into Russian, there will probably be something to discuss.

          Do not deign and generally accept as an axiom bully
          Quote: Rabinovich
          For a long time it was necessary to capture large pieces of Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc.
          The Sinai Peninsula was in vain returned to Egypt - now the terrorists are sitting there, perhaps there would have been no Russian plane shot down if the whole world had not insisted on returning it to Egypt.

          Give-yo-yo-eat Tiger and Euphrates! bully
          Quote: Rabinovich
          After that, Israel has the full moral right to destroy all these countries for aggression. And annex part of their territories as an aggressor.
          This is a common thing and common sense.

          And that’s right, but do not you immediately wave to Birobidzhan? bully There is another option, well, from a Soviet anecdote from the times of the commercials from Khrushch - Your Knesset is sitting down - what to do? Enemies are all around .. A young deputy will jump up with a burning gaze - "Let's declare war!" "How !? Again!? We are already at war ???!" “So we will declare the USSR and the USA. Who of them will conquer and take prisoner, they will be fed.” Everyone buzzed happily - golden, smart young people are growing! An old Jew stands up - “This is still good and cleverly thought up. But what are we will we do it when we win? "
    2. venik
      venik 16 January 2017 18: 32
      +1
      Quote: Babermetis
      Syria offered to get closer, but Assad (both) decided to secure their power in alliance with Shiite-style Islamists of Iran, which in turn, although it does not build the Caliphate, creates a solid foundation for the state, which, according to their calculations, will be a springboard for the world spread of Islam - fire and sword . I do not understand Russia in this regard, in fact.

      ====
      You know, I also did not understand the policy of the Israeli leadership for some time !! Type - that ISIS will be good neighbors to you ?????
      And then I remembered 2 ancient wisdom:
      1. (Eastern) - The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
      2. (seems Roman) - Divide and conquer!
      After that, everything slowly fell into place! "You just need to achieve the division of Syria into several small (and not very battle-worthy) pieces" ...
      You say that you tried to come to an agreement with the Assads (both) - but they "rested". But I wonder how your government would negotiate with the same Assads, if it were not for you from them, but they "chopped off" a strategically important piece of territory from you ??? For some reason it seems to me that your leadership (and not only the leadership) would NEVER forgive this!
      I am wrong??
      1. Babermetis
        Babermetis 16 January 2017 18: 50
        +2
        Quote: venik
        Quote: Babermetis
        Syria offered to get closer, but Assad (both) decided to secure their power in alliance with Shiite-style Islamists of Iran, which in turn, although it does not build the Caliphate, creates a solid foundation for the state, which, according to their calculations, will be a springboard for the world spread of Islam - fire and sword . I do not understand Russia in this regard, in fact.

        ====
        You know, I also did not understand the policy of the Israeli leadership for some time !! Type - that ISIS will be good neighbors to you ?????
        And then I remembered 2 ancient wisdom:
        1. (Eastern) - The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
        2. (seems Roman) - Divide and conquer!
        After that, everything slowly fell into place! "You just need to achieve the division of Syria into several small (and not very battle-worthy) pieces" ...
        You say that you tried to come to an agreement with the Assads (both) - but they "rested". But I wonder how your government would negotiate with the same Assads, if it were not for you from them, but they "chopped off" a strategically important piece of territory from you ??? For some reason it seems to me that your leadership (and not only the leadership) would NEVER forgive this!
        I am wrong??


        At the expense of the mentioned wisdom-they are not Jewish, so I do not understand them ... the gentiles know better. Rather, Israel has to fit into the long-term plan of Amer. State Department, and there they decided on the basis of the wisdom you mentioned.

        And at the expense of the Golan, I’ll tell you that as early as 7-8 years ago, the defense line was dug inland, Bibi indicated in parallel attempts to negotiate with the Persian kitten Assad. But he was afraid to see the Iranian veterinarians, and he was offered in London to treat his eyes ... in a private cantor. But. Oh, these ambitions ... I wanted to steer.
        1. indulf
          indulf 20 January 2017 13: 04
          0
          He was not scum, did not exchange his homeland for a private medical office. And anyone who has the ambition to steer everything is snub-nosed. You read the Old Testament theses, the hair on the back is moving, Adik Shikelgruber with mine kapf nervously smokes on the sidelines.
    3. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 16 January 2017 23: 16
      +1
      The whole problem is that for Russia for the next 10 years it is necessary to deprive Israel of means of delivery and nuclear weapons diplomatically or militarily, and roll back along KSA and Qatar - at least at oil and gas nodes and an airfield in order to gain a dominant position in the Middle East and the ability to drive .. Dust rags of the 6th and 5th US fleets. Syria, for example, has been and remains a strategic outpost of Russia, and it is necessary to bend the ayatollah to bases in Iran, we have a common interest in cracking down on Salafis and driving the United States to the BV under a rug.
      While Israel will threaten the Russian INF Treaty, and be friends with the terrorist monarchies of the Gulf, work out the interests of the United States, it will be one of the priority goals - and certainly not a partner.
  21. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 16 January 2017 17: 28
    +3
    Discussions in Russian about Israel are reminiscent of Caruso in Rabinovich's "tune". Here is a rare and very high-quality translation from Hebrew of a real world-class pro (such on the fingers) with Arabic at the level of a native and a doctorate obtained at Cairo University. Perhaps it will become a little clearer that there is Israel, in which the absolute majority of the population (in the kindergartens is already the fourth generation of "sabras" born in Israel) has no idea what the Russian word "Jew" means ...
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    2. Oleg7700
      Oleg7700 16 January 2017 17: 58
      +1
      Here is the article by Guy Behor "The Time of Israel (a field of miracles) [media = http: //www.liveinternet.ru/users/4198118/p
      ost398057244 /]
    3. venik
      venik 16 January 2017 18: 34
      +1
      Quote: Oleg7700
      Discussions in Russian about Israel are reminiscent of Caruso in Rabinovich's "tune".

      ====
      Oh zohen wei! So let's talk in Hebrew! The main thing - absolutely EVERYTHING will be ALL clear !!!
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 16 January 2017 18: 41
        +3
        Quote: venik
        Oh zohen wei!


        And our tanks are FAST!

        Go ahead, friends, go ahead, the time has come!
        The eve of the end celebrates the people.
        When the Jewish Cossacks revolted,
        There was a big coup in Birobidzhan!

        We got together in a Cossack circle secretly,
        Observing the laws of all the great unrest.
        We covered Yermolka with our hats
        And to the saddles we stuck the Talmud.

        No one went to the position of chieftain -
        After all, the chieftain will be the first to jump into battle!
        Then they elected Leva Iserman,
        He took money for it, my goodness!

        And we chose Kat as Yesaul
        For fortitude and a huge nose.
        He didn’t let us blow our nose into the banner
        And answer a question with a question.

        That battle struck, but what can we do?
        Around the enemies. What if they are stronger?
        We deployed our ranks boldly
        And the black horses spurred horses.

        We raced to the rear, like a field of black whirlwind,
        Deciding that death is not to any Cossack!
        How fluttered our paisley famously
        Weaving with a horse mane for a gallop!

        Our chieftain caught us at the mare:
        “I beg you to return to battle!”
        And the horses were in dandruff and soap,
        And the Cossacks did not hear the order.

        Then Katz came out: “Sholom, brothers-Cossacks!
        Who will go into battle, I will submit to the orders!
        And the one who paid off the attack,
        He will deliver the shells to us! ”

        We did not give up on these persuasions!
        There is a machine gun, and who is our hero?
        Our Rabinovich hid in the infirmary,
        Having said that he was wounded right in the hemorrhoids.

        An avalanche has leaped upon our enemies,
        Rows of bayonets, fire a flurry of lead.
        We defended our rabbi,
        He smartly sold us cartridges.

        But the enemy is strong and we were defeated
        Just having time to sell the convoy.
        We all signed up as anti-Semites,
        So our Jewish question was resolved.
  22. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 16 January 2017 17: 42
    +5
    For a long time it was necessary to capture large pieces of Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc.
    The Sinai Peninsula was in vain returned to Egypt - now the terrorists are sitting there, perhaps there would have been no Russian plane shot down if the whole world had not insisted on returning it to Egypt.

    All countries that attacked Israel in a crowd (with the support of the USSR) wanted to destroy Israel and all Jews. After that, Israel has the full moral right to destroy all these countries for aggression. And annex part of their territories as an aggressor.

    This is a common thing and common sense.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 16 January 2017 18: 37
      +2
      Quote: Rabinovich
      For a long time it was necessary to capture large pieces of Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc.
      The Sinai Peninsula was in vain returned to Egypt - now the terrorists are sitting there, perhaps there would have been no Russian plane shot down if the whole world had not insisted on returning it to Egypt.

      You are going to the right way to your friends !!!
      Give us a common g'anitsa of Iz'ail and Great Finland !!!
      wassat
  23. jekasimf
    jekasimf 16 January 2017 17: 59
    +2
    And I’m personally surprised by the position of Russia. It’s enough, at first, to warn that for any strike by the Israeli Air Force, even from Lebanese airspace, there will be an answer in the form of Iskander at the airbase itself. Well, they don’t understand, fulfill the promise ....
    1. wanderer
      wanderer 16 January 2017 18: 11
      +4
      Well, if you hypothetically assume that they warned, executed, and Iskander bam and shot down, that's where the embarrassment is))))
      1. jekasimf
        jekasimf 16 January 2017 19: 38
        0
        Here's a good chance to check out the Iron Dome
        1. andj61
          andj61 16 January 2017 20: 43
          +3
          Quote: jekasimf
          Here's a good chance to check out the Iron Dome

          The iron dome is not sharpened for that ... request For normal rockets, they prepare a "magic wand". bully
          Do you think that many regulars in VO are wasting time angrily exposing insidious Jews, since the leaders of Russia and Israel agreed on everything a long time ago?
          And now Israel is putting pressure on Assad so that he does not get too close to Iran. After all, Syria under the patronage of Russia for Israel is much more profitable than under the leadership of the ayatollah!
  24. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 16 January 2017 18: 15
    +8
    In addition to his post ...

    The article refers to certain borders of countries around Israel and their violation.
    I will say so -
    These countries have no borders. After an attempt to destroy Israel, these countries deprived themselves of all rights. They live only thanks to the grace of the Jewish people, and stupidity too. For every aggression on their part, all the lands from where the attack came from must be taken. As long as the whole Arab world has not shrunk to a patch of land - live peacefully if they do not want to.

    What border violations does the author speak of?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 16 January 2017 18: 49
      +1
      Quote: Rabinovich
      They live only thanks to the grace of the Jewish people, and stupidity too.

      Although the year has just begun and there will be a lot of humor on VO, this thought of yours will still compete for the title of "the best anecdote of the year".
      Quote: Rabinovich
      As long as the whole Arab world has not shrunk to a patch of land - live peacefully if they do not want to.

      And the Arabs, 370 million, where? To the camps?
      Hutspa does not give you life, and not mercy with stupidity!
      With this campaign, another 70 years with your neighbors you peel, no less. yes
    2. Phoenix_L'vov
      Phoenix_L'vov 19 January 2017 00: 00
      +1
      Rabinovich, fascism has not disappeared! He took refuge in Israel and his politics ...
  25. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 16 January 2017 19: 03
    +2
    Israel is and will be .. while there is the United States and England. and this is inevitable. in the world those states are strong and right. which have first-class armies. and the rest of the states are terpils .. and this is a priori.
  26. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 16 January 2017 19: 22
    +3
    Quote: Dym71
    And the Arabs, 370 million, where? To the camps?


    They don’t want to live where they decide. Israel is a peaceful country, and Jews are a peaceful people.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 16 January 2017 20: 00
      0
      Quote: Rabinovich
      They don’t want to live where they decide. Israel is a peaceful country, and Jews are a peaceful people.

      Which couplet is closer to you:
      We are peaceful people, but our armored train
      Standing on the siding!
      Or
      Weizmir violence we will destroy!
      To the ground, and then .....
      Only I beg you, do not answer with the word OR wink
    2. Starik72
      Starik72 18 January 2017 21: 26
      0
      Listen Rabinovich, Israel is a peaceful country, well, you give, like two ferrets in one bag.
  27. Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 16 January 2017 20: 01
    +5
    The Rezuns, the founders of world terrorism since the "Sumerian" times, tell us how they are offended by goat herders, from whom they have taken territory. The goat herders cut each other and don't touch the cutters, but they blame the cutters for the fact that they don't know how to do anything other than cutting off their heads. Let them themselves understand their friendly Semitic family. Drive them all with a ssaanoy rag away from you and do not let them close, and do not climb with "help". The maniacal attempts of the "constitutionally elected" to sell gas to Europe in any way are striking ...... Agree with any villain ... just to sell! With such zeal, yes, to gasify the Altai Territory or Siberian villages, there is little to do at home, chtol ... Not far, almost near Taganrog, every day people are killed from cannons, mortars, tanks, the third year has gone ....... And where are all the geniuses? Where are "spare aces in the sleeve", where are "smart multi-moves",
    where are the "saviors of the fatherland" and the "fathers of peoples", where are the Starikov-Kurginyan bayuns?
    Well, what else about poor Jews? Well, the Jews did their job, then the Jewish classic:
  28. Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 16 January 2017 20: 07
    +2
    Quote: Warrior Hamilton
    The Rezuns, the founders of world terrorism since the "Sumerian" times, tell us how they are offended by goat herders, from whom they have taken territory. The goat herders cut each other and do not touch the cutters, but they blame the cutters for the fact that they can do nothing more than cutting off their heads. Let them themselves understand their friendly Semitic family. Drive them all with a ssaanoy rag away from you and do not let them close, and do not climb with "help". The manic attempts of the "constitutionally elected" to sell gas to Europe in any way are striking ...... Agree with any scoundrel ... just to sell it! With such zeal, yes, to gasify the Altai Territory or Siberian villages, there is little to do at home, that is ... Not far, almost near Taganrog, every day people are killed from cannons, mortars, tanks, the third year has gone ... ..And where are all the geniuses? Where are "spare aces in the sleeve", where are "smart multi-moves",
    where are the "saviors of the fatherland" and the "fathers of peoples", where are the Starikov-Kurginyan bayuns?
    Well, what else about poor Jews? Well, the Jews did their job, then the Jewish classic:

    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    I have a proposal to the Israelis. And let the men have fun today in the discussion of this article without us. wink
    Bravo Aaron !!!! Guys have fun: Our Crimea! Our Crimea! Our Crimea!
  29. Radikal
    Radikal 16 January 2017 20: 55
    +2
    Quote: jekasimf
    And I’m personally surprised by the position of Russia. It’s enough, at first, to warn that for any strike by the Israeli Air Force, even from Lebanese airspace, there will be an answer in the form of Iskander at the airbase itself. Well, they don’t understand, fulfill the promise ....
    And I, and I think many here have long been not surprised by Russia's position on these, and a number of other issues! Imagine the reaction of Israel, if they shot down his plane, and one of the pilots of the plane would be shot on the air ?!
  30. Rabinowicz
    Rabinowicz 16 January 2017 22: 33
    +1
    Quote: Dym71
    Which couplet is closer to you:
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train
    Standing on the siding!

    This is for sure.
    Only an armored train is not worth it (constantly rides along the border.
    About 50 thousand Egyptian prisoners of war were released ... Israeli tanks stood 100 km. from cairo.
    They left, they released the prisoners, even the Sinai Peninsula was returned. I think in relation to the Jews there would not be such humanism. After all, the Arab countries traveled all and destroy everything. Now again the Arabs breed spiders. Incorrigible.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 January 2017 22: 53
      +1
      Quote: Rabinovich

      About 50 thousand Egyptian prisoners of war were released ... Israeli tanks stood 100 km. from cairo.
      ]

      There were never 50 thousand. A maximum of 6 thousand prisoners of war.
      1. Rabinowicz
        Rabinowicz 17 January 2017 00: 19
        +1
        I rounded it)
        all together were released even more, of all stripes
        1. andj61
          andj61 17 January 2017 09: 54
          +2
          Quote: Rabinovich
          There were never 50 thousand. A maximum of 6 thousand prisoners of war.

          Quote: Rabinovich
          I rounded it)
          all together were released even more, of all stripes

          You rounded it well! wassat
          Israeli tanks, of course, stood 100 km from Cairo. Only at this time the Egyptians also crossed the Suez Canal. And the further continuation of the war was fraught for both sides. As a result, both Egypt and Israel did not painfully resist the pressure from the USSR and the USA, respectively, and quickly came to the necessity of ending the hostilities.
  31. Moryarty
    Moryarty 17 January 2017 00: 09
    0
    IS does not pose a threat to Israel, while Hezbollah yes (and Syria supports this group)
    Quote: from article
    It turns out that if those who were engaged in shelling were accurately spotted in the Israeli army, they would be destroyed. If not, then the fire is conducted on the objects of the Syrian army. And often quite far from the places of real events.

    The blow is delivered as quickly as possible at the point from which the fire was fired. For this, aircraft and artillery units are constantly on duty. Well, that's the answer. Do not forget that the border with Israel is teeming with Hezbollah fighters and that the Syrians give them all kinds of support, and that some visitors to the forum forget the second half of the 20th century, when the Syrians constantly fired on Israeli territory.
    But there is a great reason to send planes for 250-300 kilometers to the territory of Syria (of course, Syrian mortars shoot precisely at such a distance) and work off the airfield near Damascus.

    In Syria are our air defense systems. Why are Israeli air forces at risk attacking an airfield? So there was something important. More precisely, following the logic, it is clear that something was being delivered there. And judging by the comments of Israeli citizens, there were rockets for Hezbola. Judging by the risk, it’s clear that this is true.
    I will remind those who condemn the attacks that Hezbollah is a radical organization, and also remember what goals Iran sets.
    And then it becomes clear that Russia is stepping on the same rake as the United States, communicating with the radicals.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 17 January 2017 22: 16
      0
      Quote: Moryarty
      Russia is stepping on the same rake as the United States, linking with the radicals.
      Russia is associated with legitimate states professing traditional Islam, and the United States is preparing radicals (Mujahideen, Ishilov’s, etc.). So that you and your allies would take a closer look at the rake.
      1. Moryarty
        Moryarty 18 January 2017 09: 43
        0
        Quote: Stanislav
        Russia is associated with legitimate states professing traditional Islam, and the United States is preparing radicals (Mujahideen, Ishilov’s, etc.). So that you and your allies would take a closer look at the rake.

        And how is Hezbollah different from the Islamic State and the Mujahideen? It also arranges terrorist attacks, etc. Only the branch of Islam is different, as well as the same radicals.
        Iran is one of the few theocratic states in the world, and its Constitution says: "The Constitution creates conditions for the continuation of the revolution in the country and beyond and is trying, through the development of relations with other Islamic and popular movements, to find a way to form a single world islamic ummah.
        In fact, this is an Islamofascist state, the same as Saudi Arabia, where all non-Muslims are limited in rights, and many do not have them at all. By the way, for some reason no one recalls the fact that this state supported the Chechen separatists and Mujahideen in the name of continuing the Islamic revolution.
        And it’s dangerous to get involved with such states and movements, especially remembering their goals and methods of achieving these goals.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 18 January 2017 10: 44
          +1
          Quote: Moryarty
          And how is Hezbollah different from the Islamic State and the Mujahideen?
          Hezbollah should be compared not with Daesh and the Mujahideen, who were nurtured and fostered by the United States, but with the IRA, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, Motherland and Freedom (ETA), that is, with those paramilitary organizations that lead national the liberation struggle in the form of armed aggression against states, whose aggressive and aggressive policies served as the basis for their emergence (England, Sri Lanka, Spain). Hezbollah is the same organization. And DAESH and the Mujahideen are still ruled shaitans who can bring death to any country to which the owner points out. Therefore, Israel is friends with them. And the pagans Druze, living in the Golan, are very afraid of them, since they all have death, almost nothing; so they accept Israeli citizenship in order to be at least under some kind of protection from the barmaley, and not because they are so happy about the occupation, as some Israeli experts are telling us here. Thanks to Hezbollah, Syria survived until the arrival of Russia. It is clear that such a shout was raised against her.
          1. Moryarty
            Moryarty 18 January 2017 12: 38
            +3
            Quote: Stanislav
            who wage a national liberation struggle in the form of armed aggression against states whose aggressive and aggressive policies served as the basis for their emergence (England, Sri Lanka, Spain). Hezbollah is the same organization.

            And what is the aggressive policy of Israel? So that he responds to shelling and attacks on his territory? Let me remind you that both Fatah with Hamas and Hezbollah were the first to attack the territory of Israel, and after otvetki shouted to the whole world about Israeli aggression.
            Quote: Stanislav
            But DAYES and the Mujahideen are so far controlled shaitans who can bring death to any country that the owner points to.

            Hezbollah is also controllable. Only the owner is not the United States, but Iran. And they get weapons and help from Syria with Iran.
            Quote: Stanislav
            Therefore, Israel is friends with them.

            He is not friends with them. The terrorist attack in Jerusalem is an example. They just do not pose such a serious threat to Israel as Hezbollah.
            Quote: Stanislav
            And the pagan Druze people living in the Golan are very afraid of them, since they all have death, just a little bit, so they accept the citizenship of Israel in order to be at least under some protection

            And Israel protects them. But Assad cannot guarantee their safety.
            Quote: Stanislav
            and not because they are so happy with the occupation, as some Israeli specialists are rubbing us here.

            And you remember the reasons for the occupation of the Golan Heights. If the Jews did not occupy them, then they would be constantly shot at, and there would have been much more victims. Of course, the Syrians shout to the whole world about the occupation, but forget about the regular shelling from their territory against Israel.
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas 18 January 2017 13: 23
              +1
              Quote: Moryarty
              But what is the aggressive policy of Israel? ... Hezbollah is also governed. Only the owner is not the United States, but Iran
              Iran is the host according to G. Mirsky, do not forget to add. Hezbollah was organized during the Israeli military operation in Lebanon ("First Lebanon War", 1982), which was carried out to destroy the bases of the Palestine Liberation Organization. But this is not Israel's aggression, in your opinion, but a peaceful message to the Arabs, like let's live together ... Right? Yes, and about expansionism you seem to be "out of topic", and this is no less important criterion in this comparison than aggression. And it turns out that we are often talking about the shelling of settlements in the occupied territories.
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 18 January 2017 14: 09
                0
                PS
                Quote: Stanislav
                it is often about shelling settlements in occupied territories
                Important clarification: paramilitary settlements. Seize land, build an armed settlement there with women and children and then shout to the whole world about Hezbollah's aggression, which is shelling them, demanding the return of their land. It can be compared with the Cossacks in the history of Russia, but the Cossacks settled in a wild field in order to plow this field, raise children and not obey anyone except their power. If they were attacked, they defended themselves. And the army did not support them often, and sometimes even hit them. The tsarist government used them to conquer Siberia. But the small peoples of Siberia were included in the state without even losing their traditional crafts, customs, etc. We do not have our own "OOS" in Siberia like in Palestine. The conquest of vast territories took place in a completely different way from, say, the United States. But Israel with the Arabs behaves in a similar way to the United States: for the Israelis they are useless human material, occupying useful living space like the Indians for the United States, who are somehow embarrassing to be executed en masse, but to drive them somewhere else to the reservation, even to give an allowance. so that there is enough for alcohol, and wait until they gradually get drunk, drank and die out, using non-drinkers for "dirty" work. So - you can, it looks very "civilized".
              2. Moryarty
                Moryarty 18 January 2017 23: 38
                +1
                Quote: Stanislav
                Iran is the owner according to G. Mirsky, do not forget to add

                He is any owner. This is evident in the supply of weapons.
                Quote: Stanislav
                which was carried out to destroy the bases of the Palestine Liberation Organization. But this is not Israeli aggression, in your opinion, but a peaceful message to the Arabs, such as let's live together ... Right?

                Operation Peace for Galilee was carried out in order to restore order in Lebanon, since the local government did not control the situation in the country, and this was used by the PLO, whose militants constantly attacked Israel. The situation is comparable to Afghanistan, when the USSR was forced to send troops due to security threats.
                Quote: Stanislav
                Important clarification: militarized settlements. To seize the land, arrange an armed settlement there with women and children and then shout to the whole world about Hezbollah’s aggression, which shells them, demanding to return their land.

                And there it’s impossible in a different way. After all, peaceful settlements of the Arabs always cut out, which by the way they did in the middle of the last century. And what kind of land is Hezbollah asking for if it is based in Lebanon?
                Quote: Stanislav
                The tsarist government used them to conquer Siberia. But the small peoples of Siberia were included in the state without even losing their traditional crafts, customs, etc. We do not have our own "OOS" in Siberia like in Palestine. The conquest of vast territories took place in a completely different way from, say, the United States.

                The conquest of Siberia also went with the destruction of the rebellious tribes. Remember the picture about the conquest of Siberia.
                By the way, military settlements were built in Siberia, because new cities grew around fortresses. In fact, the same thing as with the Jews.
                Quote: Stanislav
                But Israel with the Arabs behaves in a similar way to the United States: for the Israelis they are useless human material, occupying useful living space like the Indians for the United States, who are somehow embarrassing to be executed en masse, but to drive them somewhere else to the reservation, even to give a grant so that there is enough for alcohol, and wait until they gradually get drunk, drank and die out, using non-drinkers for "dirty" work. So - you can, it looks very "civilized".

                The strange thing is that in the country, Arabs make up 20% of the population. And the fact that those especially wanting independence have long been offered to create their own state, though they refused. True, the Gaza Strip was created, but Hamas did not make Arabs better.
                1. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 19 January 2017 09: 12
                  0
                  Quote: Moryarty
                  Quote: Stanislav
                  Iran is the owner according to G. Mirsky, do not forget to add
                  He is any owner. This is evident in the supply of weapons.
                  And can you see from the supply of weapons who is the master of Israel? Although, in your eye, of course, it’s more difficult
                  Quote: Moryarty
                  The conquest of Siberia also went with the destruction of rebellious tribes
                  In order not to engage in idle talk, you will give a list of the destroyed tribes of Siberia, and I will give you - Indian tribes, starting with Beotuki. Here is the picture (under the picture the description was not made by Putin or even Kiselyov). They write about 10-12 or more million destroyed Indians of North AmericaDo you have anything about the "Siberian genocide"?
                2. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 19 January 2017 09: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Moryarty
                  Remember the picture about the conquest of Siberia.
                  So I also remembered it specifically for comparison. One can make a comparison with the Indians in terms of the percentage of participation of the "destroyed peoples of Siberia" in the elected bodies of power at different levels, etc. In the USA, they freed the land from "non-people", driving the latter into reservations, but we already had a lot of land, and the tsar had to bring his subjects, but not destroy. Therefore, in our country the peoples of Siberia were assimilated or rendered out. I'm not even talking about Soviet times, there were special programs of protection and development at the very least worked. What tribes were assimilated in the United States? We also have drunken villages, in Altai I saw it myself, I won't say anything. But in other places you can find the same Russian villages. In the United States, they are placed in second-class conditions, just like the Arabs in Israel. It is from this that the peoples either die out, or fight against the conquerors, and not from difficult conditions. This is what we are talking about.
  32. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 17 January 2017 02: 35
    +4
    What is there to argue. Israel is constantly invading the territory of independent states, i.e. commits war crimes. The Government of Israel needs to be prosecuted. It would not be bad for Russia to break off diplomatic relations with such a state.
  33. cedar
    cedar 17 January 2017 04: 43
    +2
    Quote: Warrior Hamilton
    Well, what else about poor Jews? Well, the Jews did their job, then the Jewish classic:


    Hurry up to live. Islam is not broken. The Omar Mosque stands. The temple is not done. Trump threatened to help poor Jewish builders ... and they also raised Putin at the Wailing Wall about the same. Further, the Jewish classics: "I am not me and the house is not mine."
    See at the root of the war in BV.
    1. andj61
      andj61 17 January 2017 09: 58
      +1
      Quote: cedar
      Hurry to live. Islam is not broken. Omar Mosque is standing. The temple is not done. Trump threatened to help the poor Jewish builders ... about the same thing they scolded Putin against the wailing wall.

      What kind of talk can be about the Temple, if Meschiah has not yet appeared? what
      Jewish orthodoxy believes that the state of Israel was created illegally and prematurely, in which, paradoxically, they agree with the broads! bully hi
      1. Operator
        Operator 17 January 2017 12: 06
        0
        More correctly - not Jewish orthodox, but Hasidim with the center in the Chernihiv region of Ukraine laughing
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 17 January 2017 22: 09
          0
          Quote: Operator
          More correctly - not Jewish orthodox, but Hasidim
          More correct, from the point of view of the Hasidim, or someone else?
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 17 January 2017 22: 42
        0
        Quote: andj61
        What kind of talk can be about the Temple, if Meschiah has not yet appeared?

        But what, Rebbe Menachem is no longer moshiakh?
    2. Warrior Hamilton
      Warrior Hamilton 17 January 2017 14: 52
      +1
      Dear Cedar! Live in haste, for life is short! Yes, you yourself know about it ....
      You will never break Islam because it is more than a religion. To force or buy an attitude towards oneself, you can try, but break it .... there is no such breaker. When you confidently think that the case is sewn into your hat and turn to the hanger to put on this hat, you will get a knife in your back without regrets or lamentations, while looking into fading eyes, they will explain to you that they are acting very humanely, because. show respect, but in fact it was necessary to cut off the head. A fashionable proverb from the cinema: "The East is a delicate matter", which "smart people" repeat for any reason and for no reason, as an axiom, nobody has anything to do with understanding the East ..........
      1. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 18 January 2017 09: 56
        +2
        Quote: Warrior Hamilton
        You will never break Islam because it is more than a religion. To force or buy an attitude towards oneself, you can try, but break it .... there is no such breaker. When you confidently think that the case is sewn into your hat and turn to the hanger to put on this hat, you will get a knife in your back without regrets or lamentations, while looking into fading eyes, they will explain to you that they are acting very humanely, because. show respect, but in fact it was necessary to cut off the head. A fashionable proverb from the cinema: "The East is a delicate matter", which "smart people" repeat for any reason and for no reason, as an axiom, nobody has anything to do with understanding the East ..........

        I remember my Soviet childhood in Kazakhstan. In Semipalatinsk, all mosques were turned into exhibition halls, there was not a single prayer house, no one prayed, all Kazakhs drank vodka and ate bacon. The urban Kazakhs did not know their mother tongue much less than the foundations of Islam. Islam was the same sham for Kazakhs as for Russians Easter - eggs are painted and knocked by them, but what is the point ... They would have lasted 1-2 generations for the USSR and there would have been no Islam in Kazakhstan. In Central Asia, a little more ...
        In general, every religion, like every phenomenon of human civilization, has its own life cycle. There are no eternal phenomena. Christianity is degenerating now. So Islam has another 600 years ...
        1. andj61
          andj61 18 January 2017 14: 26
          +1
          Quote: AllXVahhaB
          Islam was the same sham for Kazakhs as for Russians Easter - eggs are painted and knocked by them, but what is the point ... They would have lasted 1-2 generations for the USSR and there would have been no Islam in Kazakhstan. In Central Asia, a little more ...

          good I remember studying at the institute in the 70s - 80s. The Kazakhs (and the Kirghiz) in this respect were very different from the Muslims of the Caucasus and Central Asia precisely in their offensive attitude to religion. The Russians in this regard did not differ from the Kazakhs. Together they celebrated both Easter and Uraza Bayram, while no one even thought to keep the fast. Religious holidays were just an occasion for a feast! drinks
          The Kazakhs themselves claimed that they were bad Muslims, since they had accepted Islam at one time voluntarily, without being conquered by the Arabs, unlike other Soviet Muslims.
          And lard really ate! And horse meat (horse meat is somehow not accepted in the center of Russia, although there are no prohibitions) we were treated to after the holidays.
          1. AllXVahhaB
            AllXVahhaB 19 January 2017 09: 25
            0
            Quote: andj61
            The Kazakhs themselves claimed that they were bad Muslims, since they had accepted Islam at one time voluntarily, without being conquered by the Arabs, unlike other Soviet Muslims.

            So they adopted Islam in what century ... Pagans then, in historical terms, have recently ceased to be ...
        2. Warrior Hamilton
          Warrior Hamilton 18 January 2017 15: 33
          0
          Fears are what ..... But I thought that how you will be raised by your parents, you will be so. It was at any time, but better than the classic said - you can’t say any more:
          Who believes in Mohammed, who - in Allah, who - in Jesus,
          Whoever does not believe in anything - even to hell, to spite everyone, -
          The Indians came up with a good religion:
          That we, having given ends, do not die for good.

          Your soul strove up
          Born again with a dream
          But if you lived like a pig -
          You will remain a pig.
  34. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 17 January 2017 20: 46
    +1
    “The Secretary of State recalled that he had discussed the situation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu many times. “And almost always I told him: you are trying to change the map of the world unilaterally. And if you continue to do this, then you will have problems with us as well, because we are talking about trusting us ">
    This is a quote from John Kerry ... https://lenta.ru/news/2017/01/17/kerryisraelsaid/
  35. fif21
    fif21 18 January 2017 08: 27
    +1
    No need to interpret wassat And you need to evaluate on business, based on the interests of Russia. hi
  36. 72jora72
    72jora72 18 January 2017 17: 47
    +3
    Quote: meshorer
    We had communists, as in any country. But they never were in power, and Stalin therefore very quickly became disillusioned with Israel.

    If it weren’t for Stalin, you would still walk through the deserts .....
  37. 72jora72
    72jora72 18 January 2017 17: 55
    +1
    Quote: Babermetis
    Well, if you deign to write a translation into Russian, there will probably be something to discuss.

    Do not know how to read write your address, I will send the primer. Well, learn the Russian language.
  38. martin-159
    martin-159 18 January 2017 19: 19
    +2
    I can not discuss this topic without cons.
  39. Usher
    Usher 18 January 2017 20: 48
    +2
    I agree 100500% of these Jews got it already.
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 19 January 2017 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: Usher
      I agree 100500% of these Jews got it already.

      They got the Germans by the mid-30s,
  40. V.ic
    V.ic 18 January 2017 21: 17
    0
    to send planes of kilometers for 250-300 to the territory of Syria (of course, Syrian mortars shoot precisely at such a distance)

    Author, I admire the outstanding performance characteristics of Syrian mortars!
  41. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 18 January 2017 23: 57
    0
    It’s simple, Israel (who ate wok) is fighting against Syria on the side of the SSA and ISIS, and it is on the side of ISIS in the first place - because ISIS has never attacked the Jews, it has never committed a single terrorist attack in Israel.

    The victory of ISIS is important to Israel, not the victory of the opponents of the "blacks".
  42. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 19 January 2017 21: 51
    0
    "How do we correctly interpret Israel's policy?" The Israeli policy can be characterized in one word - gangster.
  43. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 19 January 2017 23: 47
    0
    Immediately I apologize to everyone.
    But after reading this article and living in Dnepropetrovsk, the slogan of the Black Hundreds (the Union of Michael the Archangel) immediately pops up in my memory - "Kill the Jews, save Russia!"
    Once again, I apologize for the harsh statement. But he who lives in Dnepropetrovsk, I think will understand me. IMHO.
    After all, it was not for nothing that in Soviet times Dnepropetrovsk was called Dneprozhidovsky ....
  44. indulf
    indulf 20 January 2017 12: 51
    0
    Quote: Orakul2000
    that sooner or later we will have to send our troops to Syria to restore order at least in the Golan Heights

    To control the main sources of water in the region, as I understand it.
  45. Sedoy
    Sedoy 20 January 2017 13: 52
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    yes, everything is simple, since no one controls the borderland, the Jews themselves hang around there and fire at themselves - you noticed that there is always no victim from the side of the srail ... :)
    and considering that the barmaley are treated in their hospitals, and the Srailev instructors rummage around in Syria and "consult" the same barmaley, then what to talk about at all ... :)
    su:) whose tribe ... :)