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Did you lose Vietnam with Indian Akash?

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Fire tests of the Indian anti-aircraft missile system "Akash". Immediately after descending from an inclined ZUR launcher for 4,5, it accelerates to 1800 km / h thanks to a powerful launch solid-fuel charge, then, after turning on a sustained rocket-propulsion engine (RPD), Akash anti-aircraft missile picks up speed in 3600 km / h Massive flows on the tips of the tail-on stabilizers of the SAM (in the photo) - receiving antennas of the radio correction channel and radiating antennas of the transponder



Against the background of an increasingly aggravated situation in relations between Beijing and Washington, Tokyo, Taipei and Seoul due to a territorial dispute over the Diaoyu Archipelago, as well as plans to deploy the batteries of the missile complex THAAD in RK, Vietnam "under the guise" reflects on the advisability of purchasing its main anti-China partner, India, of a certain number of divisions of the Akash air defense system. “Wonderful” way, release date news (January 11 2017), referring to the Minister of Defense of India Manohar Parrikar, approximately coincided with information on the arrival of the super-maneuverable multipurpose fighter jets of the 4 ++ generation Su-35С to the front units of the Chinese Air Force. Apparently, Hanoi is pushing for such reflections by the fact that in December 2016 of the year, Beijing declared its intention to use Su-35С in the tasks of patrolling the airspace over the disputed island archipelago Spratly in the South China Sea. But what guides the defense department of Vietnam, choosing exactly the “Akash” air defense system, is not entirely clear.

EXISTING AIR CAPACITY OF VIETNAM ALLOWS TO RESIST IN A SHORT-TERM MILITARY CONFLICT

The current state of Vietnam's air defense and missile defense is at a fairly high level. The air defense divisions that are part of the Vietnam Air Force are armed with both old and time-tested systems, and very advanced air defense systems of short / medium / long range of the latest generations. Their basis is 2 S-300PMU-2 Favorit anti-aircraft missile battalions, as well as 6 Buk-M2E divisions, which are designed to cover strategically important objects of the country from Chinese air defense missiles, ballistic missiles, as well as from missile and bomb attacks tactical aviation. The Three Hundreds, which are part of the 361st and 367th Air Defense Divisions, cover industrial and military infrastructure in the provinces nearby with Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi. Under their anti-ballistic "umbrella" are batteries of coastal artillery, as well as coastal anti-ship systems "Bastion-S". The latter play a huge role in containing Chinese fleet in case of escalation of a local military conflict over the ownership of the Spratly Islands or Paracel Islands. Also, the S-300PMU-2 “Favorite” division, deployed near Hanoi, provides a no-fly zone over most of the Gulf of Tonkin, thereby complicating the possible actions of Chinese attack fighters deployed at two air bases in the Hainan island province. Due to its proximity to the border with the PRC, the 361st Air Defense Division in Hanoi also received from one to three Buk-M2E air defense divisions, as well as a certain amount of Armor-C1 for covering the Bukov’s “dead zones” and “Favorites”.


Replacement of transport-launch containers with 48H6-2 SAMs on 5P85CE launchers of Vietnamese C-300PMU-2. TPKs are stored in specialized packages 5P32 and 5P32F


The rest of the Buk-М2E air defense missile system and the Pantsir-С1 air defense missile system are distributed between the 375 and 377 air defense divisions. And the latter is strategically important for Hanoi. It protects the sky over the Cam Ranh naval base and most of Khanh Hoa province. Today, this VmB is of great importance both for warships of the Russian Navy and for Il-78M tankers. According to the agreement, our fleet NKs may enter Cam Ranh in order to repair and replenish fuel reserves during long hikes from the Atlantic to the APR or from the APR to the Mediterranean. And thanks to the IL-78М air tankers deployed at the airfield attached to the base, it is possible to regularly patrol the Indo-Asian-Pacific region with strategic missile-carrying Tu-160. The year before last, the US Armed Forces command in the APR tried to persuade Hanoi to expel our air tankers from Cam Ranh, but received a hard rejection, because the modern Vietnamese air forces are built solely on Russian arms and spare parts for him, and such an excessive friendship with Washington does not promise anything for the country good


In recent years, the Vietnamese leadership has made a lot of efforts to build decent information support for the ground and air components of air defense missile defense. So, at the end of May 2016, according to the information resource defence-blog.com, the Ministry of Defense of Vietnam finally decided on a contract for the purchase of 2 airborne aircraft AWACS C295 AEW & C from the concern Airbus Defense & Space / Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). The vehicles are equipped with a powerful Israeli AFAR radar, developed by IAI / ELTA units. The detection range of fighter-type targets reaches 350-400 km. In the Vietnamese Air Force, C295 AEW & C will perform missions to detect Chinese aviation and WTO, as well as issue target designations for "Favorites" and Su-30MK2


However, amid growing tensions around the Spratlys, Hanoi went toward rapprochement with the United States and the entire “anti-Chinese axis.” So, back in October 2015 between Tokyo and Hanoi, an agreement was reached on the use of the Cambrunian VmB warships of the Japanese Self-Defense Forces at the time of the naval exercises and anti-piracy missions. It is not difficult to guess that the range of operations includes a confrontation with the Chinese Navy. And on October 4 2016, the Cam Ranh naval base had already received the DDG-56 USS "John S. McCain" URO destroyer, the official version of which is the strengthening of naval engagement with Washington.

THE CONTRACT ON "AKASHAM" CAN BE THE INDICATOR OF THE CHANGE OF FOREIGN POLICY VECTOR VIETNAM

It is well known that the Indian Admiralty and the Air Force provide great assistance to the crews of Vietnamese diesel-electric submarines, 636.1 Varshavyanka, as well as to the flight strength of the Su-30MX2 multi-purpose fighter jets in understanding the management skills of these high-tech units, which indicates that close technical support has been maintained, which indicates that close technical support is maintained between countries; but for what reasons did Hanoi get interested in Akash complexes?


The photo shows one of the night flights of the Su-30MK2 of the Vietnamese Air Force. In total, the 923rd, 927th and 935th fighter aviation regiments are armed with 24 machines of this type. These modifications of "Sushki" are equipped with a more advanced airborne radar with Cassegrain N001VE, capable of working against sea and ground targets, as well as an upgraded VTS with integrated software for the use of the R-77 URVV (RVV-AE). Together with C295AEW & C, the Su-30MK2 represent the air component of Vietnam's air defense


Their tactical and technical characteristics are far from bad for the 21st century, but they are not able to form such a reliable anti-missile “shield” that can be created by additional purchases of modern Russian air defense systems of the Buk-MXNUME type or C-2BM Antey-300. Designed by the Defense Research and Development Organization of India DRDO in the 2500 year, the Akash SAM began to enter service in the 2001 year. It is obvious that Akash is a deeply refined conceptual analog of the Russian Kub air defense system, in particular, in terms of the missile component. The Akash rocket, like our 2009М3, has a “pivoting wing” scheme with 9 aerodynamic steering wheels in front of the missile system, which are shifted closer to the rocket's aerodynamic focus; due to them, the rocket has the ability to maneuver with overloads from 4 to 20 units. On the tail stabilizers there are ailerons for rotating the missiles on roll. Despite the fact that the Indian rocket has a similar starting solid-fuel charge, as well as an integrated solid-fuel rocket engine with solid fuel, its maximum flight speed reaches 24 km / h, while 3600М3 only accelerates to 9 km / h. This allows her to intercept more high-speed targets in pursuit. The marginal overload of the intercepted targets, according to some information, can reach 2850-9 units, which is not a good indicator for the 21st century air defense system. The Akash Assault Range reaches 10 km, and the interception height is 27 km.


SAM "Akash"; visible red conical body intake pipes IRPDT


When reviewing the Akash anti-aircraft guided missile, it should be immediately noted that, like our Kub 3М9 SAM system, it is equipped with a cruise integrated rocket-ramjet engine (IRPDT) with an additional solid propellant rocket engine (TRT), represented by sodium nitrate and naphthalene mixed charge powdered magnesium, carbon and nitroglycerin; oxidant is atmospheric oxygen. Unlike a simple ramjet, where the central conical body of the diffuser is empty, at the IRPDT it usually contains the above-mentioned solid fuel block of the gas generator, whose burnout products are mixed in the ejector of the IRPDT with oxygen coming from the air intake device and create an even greater release of thermal energy in the afterburner. Since the “Akash” IRPDT of the Akash has an 4 small side air intake manifold, the TRT checker is located not in the conical bodies, but in the central part of the rocket body.

At the exit to the combustion chamber, the solid fuel block is equipped with an 12-channel distribution head with 12 small nozzles that evenly distribute the combustion products that enter it and mix with atmospheric oxygen. At the same time, the TRT checker provides for a multi-layer press technique of execution, due to which the intensity of its burning in the upper section of the trajectory is much higher than on the final one. In this type of rocket-ramjet engine (RPD), the starting and accelerating solid-fuel checker is integrated into the direct-flow air path of the engine (combustion chamber), which causes simplicity and reliability of the design. Protection of the case from the high-temperature extreme mode of operation of IRPDT provides 10-millimeter composite envelope based on phenol-formaldehyde resin, and in order to avoid deformation of the metal layer of the case when the thermal protection envelope is heated, a third layer of specialized elastic material is laid between them. In fact, the IRPDT is a simplified, reliable and forced version of a conventional ramjet. At this point, the similarity between the “Kub” and “Akash” SAM systems ends.



On the Indian anti-aircraft guided missile, in addition to the radio-fuse, a contact fuse can also be installed, which indicates a sufficiently high accuracy of semi-active radar guidance in the final part of the trajectory. If the firing channel in the “Kub” air defense missile system is provided by the obsolete centimeter parabolic guidance station 1С31, then the Akash complex uses a completely modern multifunctional “Rajendra” radar with a passive HEADLAMP. The PFAR canvas is represented by 4000 transceiver modules operating in the centimeter C-band and X-band (at 4-8 GHz and 8-12 GHz frequencies), the AN / MPQ-53 complex of the “Patriot PAC-2” complex in the similar bands and 92H6E of the C-400 complex. "Rajendra" has a sufficiently high resolution in the work on air targets, and in some cases even direct hits can be achieved.

In addition to the main PPAR, there are also: PAR of the channel for radio-correction of the rocket (consisting of 1000 MRP), operating in the J-band and PHAR of the state recognition of aerial objects, consisting of 16 MRP. The station is capable of tracking airborne targets on the 64 aisle and capturing for accurate auto tracking (with provision of illumination for Akash SAM) - 4 airborne targets. In the airspace scanning mode, the Rajendra antenna post rotates at a speed of 36 degrees / s. Air targets of the “4 ++ generation fighter” type (EPR = 1 m2) are detected at a distance of 67 km, such as an “anti-radar missile” (0,1 m2) - 37 km, which is a very good indicator. The elevation angle of view is from -5 to + 65 hail, which allows the Akash air defense system to operate successfully at higher elevations with low-altitude targets, but with a serious limitation, which raises the export attractiveness of the anti-aircraft missile system as a whole.

We are talking about the lower boundary of the affected area, which is 30 m. All air objects that are below cannot be intercepted by the complex. Against this background, modern Chinese tactical as well as strategic cruise missiles CJ-10A (DF-10) are capable of flying in the following-terrain mode at 25-30 m on the cruising trajectory and 20-25 - on the last TTX SAM "Akash" absolutely does not fit. Moreover, the complex has a significant limitation on the speed of the intercepted target, which is 2520 km / h. This suggests that Akash is very easy to destroy with Chinese high-speed PRLR of the CM-102 type, the speed of which at approach can reach 3500 km / h. DRDO specialists are trying in every way to raise the rating of their offspring, stating that according to the performance characteristics Akash is comparable to the American Patriot air defense system, but this is absolutely in vain, since other parameters do not speak in favor of the first one.


MRLS “Rajendra”


Multifunctional radar "Rajendra", having similar accuracy with the AN / MPQ-53 MRLS, loses the last one in the target channel exactly 2 times (4 simultaneously fired at targets against 8); The azure range of the Rajendra is also inferior to AN / MPQ-2 in 53 times, accounting for all 45 degrees (mechanical rotation saves the situation); in the elevation plane, the Indian radar sector of the survey is only 65 degrees which forms a huge funnel of the “dead zone” over the Akash air defense system, from where Akash can be attacked by absolutely any type of high-precision weapons. The range of the radar "Rajendra" is also approximately 2 times less than the "Patriot" radar: 80 vs. 145 km (for the purpose of the type "fighter" with EPR = 2 м2). As for the comparison of missiles, here the Indians have really overdone it and have made laugh the “public”. The Akash missile is inferior to MIM-104C in range by 6 times (27 versus 160 km), in speed almost 2 times (3600 km / h versus 6000 km / h) and in interception height approximately 2 times (15 versus 30 km ). One of the few advantages of the rocket is that the period of operation of the main engine covers most of its flight path, which allows it to maintain maneuverability even at maximum range, but this does not fundamentally change the situation.

From all of the above, we can conclude that the Indian Akash anti-aircraft missile systems are not able to give the air defense of Vietnam the necessary qualities to protect against the existing and promising means of air attack of the Chinese defense industry complex. They can only be used as additional air defense systems at the level of the more long-range C-300PMU-2 or Buk-M2E divisional kits. Why, then, does Vietnam spend tens of millions of dollars on an anti-aircraft missile system with such controversial characteristics?

There are several answers, but the most correct one is “laying the foundation” in further economic and military-technical relations with India against the background of foreign policy hedging in relation to other partners. Speaking in a simpler language, Hanoi focused on cooperation exclusively with its ideological allies on anti-Chinese issues, and, as you know, our state will not be included in this list under any pretext. The Vietnamese leadership clearly sees that it is unlikely to be able to sit on two chairs, and is looking for a spare armament supplier, which India is becoming today. As for purely military-technical issues, Delhi today cannot provide Hanoi with weapons capable of posing a weighty threat to the PRC, and the Akash air defense missile system is no exception.

Information sources:
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/akash/akash.shtml
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/kub/kub.shtml
http://www.pzaku.net/homepage/?p=3625
https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2016/06/06/vietnam-acquires-two-early-warning-aircraft-with-elta-radar/#respond
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  1. Cat
    Cat 17 January 2017 06: 20
    +4
    The vector of India is obvious! But Vietnam, unfortunately, showed its priorities in choosing weapons. We are here, or rather, our officials are extras.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 17 January 2017 06: 58
      +4
      Quote: Kotischa
      our officials are extras.


      I would say who they really are ...

      In general, it’s too late to drink - we have profiled a contract!
    2. vkfriendly
      vkfriendly 17 January 2017 15: 49
      +1
      The world is changeable and no one wants to depend on one supplier, although maybe it's just a political game, who knows.
  2. Bayonet
    Bayonet 17 January 2017 06: 50
    +3
    Delhi today cannot provide Hanoi with weapons that can pose a significant threat to China, and the Akash air defense system is no exception.

    Air defense missiles are defensive weapons and what kind of "threat to China" can they pose? request
    And what the Indian chose - the buyer is free to choose what suits him best.
    1. LastPS
      LastPS 19 January 2017 12: 03
      0
      The threat of China’s hypothetical aggression, the author wrote about this third of the article.
  3. kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 17 January 2017 07: 24
    +5
    This scheme is more consistent with RCC than with ZR. An inclined start does not mean the highest reaction time, forward flow may not fully realize the potential in some modes. A large missile, just against the boats will do. Okay, at least a semi-active head, not an AGSN, which they like to shove into all kinds of imported ones based on expensive aviation missiles with dubious range and capture radius without highlighting the target. In general, the level of the 60s.
  4. alexfin
    alexfin 17 January 2017 08: 36
    +1
    Yeah, Kamran VMB ... almost two years trampled her sands ..... there is something to remember.
  5. Maegrom
    Maegrom 17 January 2017 09: 01
    +2
    Thanks for the great article. How not to play, all the same, geography directs allied relations, where the neighbor or suziren or vassal or enemy, and the enemy of the enemy ally.
  6. infantryman2020
    infantryman2020 17 January 2017 09: 23
    +4
    Unfortunately, we do not have a similar airplane (AWACS with AFAR) :(
    (by a set of characteristics).

    Hooray patriots, well, where are the objections?
    1. FID
      FID 17 January 2017 09: 36
      +5
      And they are not ... No "uryakolok", no objections ...
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 January 2017 09: 40
      +3
      Quote: infantryman2020
      Hooray patriots, well, where are the objections?

      You checkered, or go?
    3. kugelblitz
      kugelblitz 17 January 2017 10: 46
      +4
      And what is fundamentally important to have at present the AFAR? Later, but will be. I can also ask if Israel has an analogue of the radar reconnaissance satellite Peony? I suspect working in real time, by the way.
    4. LastPS
      LastPS 19 January 2017 12: 07
      0
      So it’s like the Tu-214R with AFAR, isn't it?
  7. GRIZLLI
    GRIZLLI 17 January 2017 10: 13
    +7
    What can I say, soon we will cooperate on joint production that our weapons will be bought only in Africa, before China and India were the main buyers, China copied almost the entire technological base and began to develop its products at the same time, plus the economic power of the state promotes expansion in the market armaments, India is developing its military-industrial complex at the same pace, by and large, we can offer little to them, while we can only revolutionary systems can offer on which they immediately have the condition to share technology and production on their territory, like that technology receives modern technology, but developments take decades and cost a lot. Another 15-20 years will pass and we will completely lose these markets, so they will push us to other markets.
    1. kugelblitz
      kugelblitz 17 January 2017 10: 43
      +3
      Quote: GRIZLLI
      China has copied almost the entire technological base

      What can he still not copy engines in normal? And let's see how far it will go with copying the S-400. Not everything is so simple, so the Chinese launch their missiles either on low-boiling components or cryogenic. Because there are no high-performance rocket engines. And while they can catch up with the closed cycle, at this time Energomash will already begin to work out detonation ones. Voschem is not a shovel on a bucket of 100 bucks to rivet.
      1. Großer feldherr
        Großer feldherr 17 January 2017 11: 29
        +6
        So engines (or rather matrials for them) is the last frontier, after which everything.
        And this milestone will fall in the foreseeable future, "perseverance and work will grind everything" and the Chinese are very actively working with materials science.
        Personally, I am very saddened by the joyful comments of the patriots "well, after all, the steel for the engines has not yet been copied," in fact, this means that everything else has been copied for a long time and is not of interest even for the Chinese ...
        1. kugelblitz
          kugelblitz 17 January 2017 11: 54
          +2
          Quote: Großer Feldherr
          So engines (or rather matrials for them) is the last frontier, after which everything.

          It's not even the materials, but the manufacturing technology. The materials can be scanned with a spectrometer. And in general, in calculating the principle of operation of any mechanism. Another example is the vortex aerodynamics of airplanes, a very tasty topic. There are not even theoretical calculations, it is probably Gift and Intuition. Takshta no need to think they’ll distort everything. What won’t the Ketais do not tear down Rolls-Royce dviguny? For instance.
          1. Großer feldherr
            Großer feldherr 17 January 2017 12: 53
            +1
            They copy the rally-Royce engines and the Chinese engines similar to our and the bourgeois originals ... but here is the resource, this is a big problem for now - until recently, China did not pay due attention to materials science, for which it pays.
            There is nothing cunning and supernatural in aerodynamics, therefore, we sell the best that is (su 35) without much fear, all body contours have long been measured to microns.
        2. dzvero
          dzvero 17 January 2017 15: 08
          +2
          There is also software, or rather algorithms. It is unlikely that the Chinese sold / transferred everything.
          As for patience and work, it’s necessary, but brains are needed there. And with him the Chinese are a little taut. They are very meticulous while the chef is watching. To do - they will do, but to offer something new from themselves is not their hobby. Probably a feature of thinking. I do not consider myself a rabid racist, but almost all modern concepts, technologies, etc. invented by people of the white race.
          1. Cat
            Cat 17 January 2017 18: 25
            0
            I draw your attention to Japan.
            1. dzvero
              dzvero 17 January 2017 21: 28
              +4
              What about Japan? In the USA, before the war, Japanese products were looked at as we looked at Chinese - cheap full-quality consumer goods. Then, in the 50s and 60s, the Japanese actively bought up patents in the west. And they sharply improved the quality (by the way, actively introducing Soviet systems for organizing production and quality control)! They simply perfected the same products that were produced in leading countries. And what they invented against the background of potential (scientific and economic) somehow fades. China, in my opinion, is following their path, but not by buying patents, but by copying everything and everyone.
              By the way, an example: the USSR in the 30s bought a Christie tank and produced it as a BT. But only an engineering school and creative thinking allowed to turn it into a T-34. The second example is jet engines YuMO (trophy) and Ning (acquired in England). They gave an initial impetus to engine building, but everything created later is a creative product of scientists and engineers.
  8. Berkut24
    Berkut24 17 January 2017 10: 53
    0
    "after all, the modern Vietnamese Armed Forces are built exclusively on Russian weapons and spare parts for it"
    Well, this is no longer the case. Let's remember, at least. purchase of not the first freshness "Galil" instead of new Kalash.
    No need to cycle in Vietnam. The profit from equal relations with China and with India and with Pakistan and other countries is much greater than only with individual countries that are in strict contrast with their neighbors. In the end, the cost of the arms market in Vietnam is much lower than the value of contracts in all other sectors of the economy in Asia.
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 17 January 2017 14: 07
    +2
    and don’t try to cover the vast, Vietnam is only a trading partner, albeit a military one, but with your own interests, and you shouldn’t try to see your ally in it, China is a serious economic and political shark for him and that’s it, that's why he is looking for another shark for which you can hide, India is trying to fill its niche in the arms market ...
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 January 2017 15: 51
    +5
    For some reason, the author forgot that Vietnam bought 200 from Israel.
    Short Range BR (300 km) Laura (or Extra). At about 750 thousand dollars apiece.
    They, it seems, were placed against the Chinese islands.
    1. kugelblitz
      kugelblitz 17 January 2017 15: 54
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      750 thousand dollars apiece

      !!!! wassat !!!!
    2. opus
      opus 18 January 2017 02: 25
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      For some reason, the author forgot that Vietnam bought 200 pieces from Israel.

      20 (TWENTY)

      Vietnam has purchased 3 systems SPYDER-SR missiles, S-125 Pechora-2T, and especially the 20 combinations EXTRA rockets.

      Quote: voyaka uh
      Short Range BR (300 km) Laura (or Extra)
      something in Israel itself range 20-150 km.




      LORA (Acronym for LOng Range Attack) is a theater quasiballistic missile produced in Israel.
      It has a range of 300 kilometers (190 mi) and a CEP of 10 meters (33 ft) when using a combination of GPS and TV for terminal guidance.

      who to believe -hz.
      Where do they lie? in Israel or in Vietnam?


      Brig. Gen. (res.) Eli Reiter: 150 km, and then 250 km

      Quote: voyaka uh
      At about 750 thousand dollars apiece.

      made cheaper
      For the Philippines, for example, the SSM-1 (Type-88) from "Mitsubishi Heavy Industries"


      The budget allocated by the DND for this project is Php 6.5 billion (around US $ 144 million) to acquire 12 missile launchers and its associated detection, guidance, and support systems.
      144 Million / 12 =12 million for PU and tripe
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 18 January 2017 14: 08
        +1
        God knows. I also took 200 from the web. And confusing 10 times is easy.
        About range: 150 km. high accuracy is guaranteed, and 300 - maximum
        range (as if without high accuracy?)
        Vietnam tests:
        1. opus
          opus 18 January 2017 17: 35
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          at 150 km. guaranteed high accuracy, and 300 - maximum
          range (as if without high accuracy?)

          Range with SER (QUO) / accuracy ... well, and how it is not connected.
          Moreover, IAI has the same SER everywhere /

          LORA (shorthand for "LOng Range Attack") -de facto Short-range ballistic missile /
          Neither the length nor the mass range you do not depend on, maybe. while changing warhead (weight / size)

          Do you really believe that a BR with a mass of 1600kg and a warhead mass of 440 kg can be shot at 250-230 km?
          OTR-25 [SS-X-26] ----> OTRK 9K720 (E)
          Operational and tactical missile 9М723К1.
          Firing range: maximum - 280 tom, minimum - 50 km.
          Flight altitude - up to 50 km.

          The head part is inseparable, weighing 480 kg.

          QUO: with homing system - 5-7 m, with inertial guidance system - 30-70 m.
          Missile weight - 3800 kg.
          Length - 7300 mm. Diameter - 920 mm.

          Now just compare it with LORA (mass, dimensions, warhead mass) ... and you’ll understand
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 18 January 2017 19: 09
            +1
            Well, in Russia everyone is used to doing it thoroughly. Iskander probably also has a corps
            armored, so as not to bring down ...
            And in our country, hackers, they make rockets out of plastic, any light garbage ...
            That's half the weight.
            This is my guess. recourse .
            1. opus
              opus 18 January 2017 23: 29
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              probably a scanner
              armored, so as not to bring down ...

              Bash on bash: I give the tare weight 9М723К1, and in return you are the weight of the LORA peel.
              so compare wink

              Quote: voyaka uh
              That's half the weight.

              1.your other fuel density is TTRD
              2. Well, and the volume of TT itself is less.
              Therefore, so.
              JUST WHAT MIRACLE YOU GET "300km" with 440 kg of warhead-HZ.
              And with us at 480kg = 300km.
              (500 km is a separate topic)
              ?
              Note not a direct dependence of m / y combat load and range, oh not direct.
              but quite a curve.
              My conclusion: they have reported, well, as well as with 3000 $ for the LCD interceptor .... cool on the bottom line = $ 60000.
              It happens. Rogozins and Korotchenko are not current we have.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 18 January 2017 23: 48
                +2
                When you sell military equipment to foreigners, then lies in the so-called. quickly detected. Hindus, for example, check thoroughly. You tell them: 300 km.
                They are: well, let's run at 300, fly / fly. I don’t know how Vietnamese ...
                1. opus
                  opus 19 January 2017 01: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Hindus, for example, check thoroughly. You tell them: 300 km.

                  1. And who and when "spoke"? I gave THREE range options according to ISRAELI sources, incl. from the manufacturer.
                  2.And where the Indians checked it
                  3: Neither India (already received a slap in the face), nor Israel (received less) want to violate the MTCR (Annex_Handbook)
  11. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 17 January 2017 15: 57
    0
    The capacity of the Vietnamese military market is not high, political purchases are political. At the expense of us, technologies are and will be, because it is now that a new technological structure is being formed, and the defense is working with us and it will not be much to offend it with money, maximize the time for orders.
  12. itvs
    itvs 17 January 2017 16: 32
    0
    Thank you for the article. Expands both technical and political horizons.
  13. mr.redpartizan
    mr.redpartizan 17 January 2017 20: 40
    0
    Indians have repeated the technologies of the USSR in the early 70s - Hurray !!! Air defense systems with such "outstanding" parameters, even the Arabs would not buy, the Indians miraculously managed to snatch this craft into Vietnam.
  14. hiroyashy
    hiroyashy 17 January 2017 21: 58
    +1
    I apologize. A few questions.
    1. The author himself understands what he wrote?
    2. How is the Hindu engine different from Kubovsky?
    3. What are such transceiver modules in VFAR?
    Regards, Boris.
    1. opus
      opus 18 January 2017 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: hiroyashy
      1. The author himself understands what he wrote?

      no

      Quote: hiroyashy
      2. How is the Hindu engine different from Kubovsky?

      fuel (its energy) and tare (shell), temperature, which keeps criticism of the nozzle, etc.

      "Akash" Anti-aircraft guided missile - solid-propellant, two-stage, 5,8 m long, launch weight of about 700 kg. The maximum flight speed of the rocket is 1000 m / s. Warhead weight - up to 60 kg. Acceleration time to a speed of 500 m / s - 4,5 s, after which the ramjet engine is turned on, increasing the speed by 2 (1000 v | s) times, the ramjet engine operating time is 30 s

      3М9 = solid fuel, two-stage

      20 ramjet operating time with


      Quote: hiroyashy
      3. What are the transceiver modules in PFA

      well it is more like Yes.
      Call them PPM .. not really
      PFAR radar AN / FPS-108

      N011 Bars

      SCAR are a flat surface with dozens of slots, allowing you to create a beam of the desired shape. The shape of this beam is unchanged.
      There is a vibratory headlamp, there is a waveguide-vibrator emitter, there are waveguide emitters.
      There is even a radiator with an extraordinary waveguide section

      printed RADIATORS, etc.
      If the emitters are called PPM, in principle it is not correct, but acceptable.

      The antenna-feeder device is still there (receiving-transmitting device) wink
      1. hiroyashy
        hiroyashy 19 January 2017 13: 46
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        Thank. It is nice to read a fairly detailed and reasoned answer. Now it is a rarity. Later I re-read my post and thought about my claims to the author myself. Indeed, many, even serious authors and publications call the modules in PFAR - PPM. Let's just say a glued word that does not reflect reality. And I wrote about the 3M9 differences, because the scheme for both missiles is really the same. By the way, attempts to find out the differences in the fuel formulation were not successful, but it would be interesting. By the way, in the 80s, the development of integrated accelerators (the first stage) was carried out without a nozzle design, but something all died out.
        Regards, Boris.
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 17 January 2017 22: 17
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    Quote: Kotischa
    The vector of India is obvious! But Vietnam, unfortunately, showed its priorities in choosing weapons. We are here, or rather, our officials are extras.
    They are not extras, they (even worse and more dangerous) are amateurs! Militants!
  16. Hey
    Hey 18 January 2017 16: 28
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    I wonder, during which time the entire stock of these missiles will be wasted and what will they do then? How quickly will India be able to increase the supply of missiles in the event of a conflict since the technological production time of the missiles is quite significant? From your stocks?
  17. VladimS
    VladimS 20 January 2017 04: 24
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    Quote: GRIZLLI
    soon we are working together on the joint production that our weapons will be bought only in Africa, before China and India were the main buyers,

    Do not Cry! Think better and more ... before smearing any crap.
  18. 72jora72
    72jora72 20 January 2017 05: 07
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    Quote: infantryman2020
    Unfortunately, we do not have a similar airplane (AWACS with AFAR) :(
    (by a set of characteristics).

    Hooray patriots, well, where are the objections?

    So create it if you can, and anyone can scuffle, as the saying goes ....... do not toss the bags.
  19. den-protector
    den-protector April 12 2017 10: 47
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    Vietnam did not forget how it was supported by the USSR, and how the Russian Federation threw it to its mercy in the 90s of the XNUMXth century, however, like the other allies. Therefore, be careful.
  20. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 15 October 2017 01: 57
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    "Against this background, modern Chinese tactical as well as strategic cruise missiles CJ-10A (DF-10) are capable of flying in the mode of following the terrain at an altitude of 25-30 m on the marching section of the trajectory and 20-25 on the final, which TTX SAM "Akash" does not fit "
    Mr. author do not write nonsense. Have you experienced these Chinese missiles in real combat? What did they intercept from you and when? In a real battle, you need to experience it, in real and then write articles. If these missiles are the same as the Chinese auto industry, then they can only scare the raven
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