Tireks tank is patented in Ukraine - competitor "Armata"

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The Ukrainian National Industrial Portal has published a patent for the Tireks tank, which, according to the developers, is a competitor to the Russian Armata.

Tireks tank is patented in Ukraine - competitor "Armata"




It is stated that "resistant to cumulative ammunition" Tireks "," will be equipped with an armored capsule with seats for three crew members, as well as an uninhabited tower. "

The tank is supposed to be armed with a “125-millimeter gun with a remote-controlled automatic loading mechanism and machine guns.” The machine will be equipped with dynamic protection "Knife" and "Doublet".

At the same time, it is planned to manufacture the tank of the “new generation” from the old Soviet T-64 and T-72 vehicles.

Earlier, the chief editor of the Ukrainian Defense Express magazine Sergey Zgurets stated that the first sample tank Tirex will be released before the end of 2016. As stated in the message of the creators of the tank, "the new vehicles are comparable to the most modern armored combat vehicles, including the widely publicized Armata."

Recall, in November, the Ukrainian media reported that the creation of an experimental copy of the Tireks was frustrated “because of the raider seizure of the Kiev factory Atek, where the creators of the machine worked, the Engineering Group Arey” (previously, the Engineering Group "Azov" ").


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  1. +27
    15 January 2017 09: 58
    I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.
    1. +50
      15 January 2017 10: 02
      They also wrote on the fence))) the women went to check and did not find)))
      1. +100
        15 January 2017 10: 05
        Honduras can draw a picture and let them try to make it real. It just needs technology, steel and alloys. In this case, before the battle, it is necessary to cut out the tank parts from the supplied kit, bend along the dotted lines and glue with PVA glue. It’s PVA, since when using glue of the type of moment the actions of the crew become unpredictable ...
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          1. +43
            15 January 2017 10: 22
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

            A patent filed by impotents in the field of tank engineering sounds funny. Judging by the figure, the tank has fewer components than the Kalashnikov assault rifle.
            1. +6
              15 January 2017 10: 31
              It doesn't matter how many parts the tank has. It is important how many and which nodes are patented.
              I did not find information about patents for nodes and technical solutions of Almaty.
              1. +29
                15 January 2017 10: 49
                Well, you and the brake, who will tell you a secret Old, personally
                1. +2
                  15 January 2017 13: 24
                  Buddy Darwin. I look forward with interest to your most interesting story about the secret patents that our developers secretly receive in Europe and America.
                  I admit, you still managed to surprise me.
                  1. +8
                    15 January 2017 14: 34
                    Worthless is the price of this hohlyatsky patent. About as much as a patent for a wheel. Probably even less. Have you thought about this?
              2. +9
                15 January 2017 10: 54
                Quote: Pereira
                It doesn't matter how many parts the tank has. It is important how many and which nodes are patented.
                I did not find information about patents for nodes and technical solutions of Almaty.

                Do you think in UKBTM some nerds work? Contributions are a substantial (if not the main) part of their income.
                1. +17
                  15 January 2017 11: 30
                  Quote: Jacket
                  Do you think in UKBTM some nerds work? Contributions are a substantial (if not the main) part of their income.

                  Yes there are enough nerds in the defense industry. Soviet developments can not use.
              3. +6
                15 January 2017 11: 27
                Quote: Pereira
                It doesn't matter how many parts the tank has. It is important how many and which nodes are patented.
                I did not find information about patents for nodes and technical solutions of Almaty.

                Firstly, it is a Ukrainian patent and in order to prohibit the production of something like that in Russia, or at least to get copyright, they will have to take a Russian patent.

                And so in all countries of the world. A good amount is obtained.

                And secondly, it is not prohibited to sell-buy on the territory of the patent. Those. if there is a patent in country A, then no one forbids in this country, and especially in others, to sell the same product, but manufactured in country B, where this patent is not valid.
              4. +13
                15 January 2017 11: 44
                It doesn't matter how many parts the tank has. It is important how many and which nodes are patented.
                I did not find information about patents for nodes and technical solutions of Almaty.


                There is such a rocket engine RD-180 ... Whether it is patented or not is unknown to most of the audience. Only in Russia can it be made. And in the patent structure or the Ukrainian "impotent", the main thing is that - "You take it in your hands - you sweep a thing!"And, if there is nothing to take, then no Viagra will help ... laughing
                1. +2
                  15 January 2017 13: 26
                  There are many facts when our developments were patented in the West by local comrades. After that, we could not produce our own products and were forced to purchase from the patent holder. Did you really not know about this?
                  1. +6
                    16 January 2017 02: 06
                    Quote: Pereira
                    There are many facts when our developments were patented in the West by local comrades. After that, we could not produce our own products.

                    This is popularly called "terpily" laughing , and so yes, tell us about patents, for example, the Chinese lol
              5. +17
                15 January 2017 11: 46
                Take off the handbrake "dear" you decided to find secret information in the direct access of the Internet ??! bully gee gee !! It must be so fool tree !!! Hee hee lol
              6. c3r
                +6
                15 January 2017 11: 49
                Go to bed and go to sleep!
                1. +4
                  15 January 2017 12: 05
                  Well said. from the top of your intellect far to see? this is the level of discussion! it’s immediately clear who the Black Sea was digging and ukraine will help Ukraine to remake in the Yoropeysk manner
              7. +9
                15 January 2017 11: 59
                Ukrainians monkeys, nothing more. Or do you suppose that at UVZ they will try to recreate their T-REX, all its stuffing and therefore will be unfastened?
                Nothing to do with Armata - Ukrainians, using the T-64 case, made a draft project, do not understand what, which will never purr ...
                Where will they put the commander and gunner? - there are places with a gulkin nose.
                1. +1
                  16 January 2017 11: 45
                  Quote: Sharapov

                  Where will they put the commander and gunner? - there are places with a gulkin nose.

                  To put it mildly in the T-64, only on the knees of the driver wink .In the case you will not find a place, there is a MZ (loading mechanism). In the control department there is a mech.-water., On the right is a storage tank under the diesel fuel, on the left is a dashboard and batteries. As an option, move all these excesses to the MTO or just throw it away tank-rack for 400 liters of diesel fuel and put the crew in one row, but then you need 2 hatches, because you won't move there. Although this idea is pure delirium and pulling attendants out of suckers. The KBAZ tool is a parody with a limited resource, a new one with increased power is not being piled there now - no brains, no hands on it. The suspension of the T-64 tank under 50 tons will not pull, because it was created for aesthetes, and not for active exploitation. In short, it is easier to do with "0" than to sculpt a hunchback.
              8. +4
                15 January 2017 13: 11
                Are you serious now? About the patent, unfasten? About cotton wool easier by the way ...
              9. 0
                16 January 2017 08: 55
                Quote: Pereira
                I did not find information about patents for nodes and technical solutions of Almaty.

                ====
                Do you have access to the database of closed patents and copyright certificates? For example, back in Soviet times, we had a funny story: for 2 inventions, my colleagues and I received only forms of copyright certificates (without a description of the invention itself). It turned out they were classified, but we didn’t have enough access levels ..... Of course, complete nonsense, but ... !! It is thought and now to penetrate into these bases architrudno!
                1. 0
                  19 January 2017 08: 47
                  Nothing funny) Now the same topic. After all, inventions are mainly made on the basis of some serious institution, which has a special department, the head of the patent department, for which each author personally writes a power of attorney and who essentially transfers all documents to ROSPATENT, has all the necessary approvals. And often the inventor cannot get his own patent, but already officially published. But again, through the same head of the PatO, the issue is always resolved without problems. Well, in general, if, in essence, the question is - a patent for a tank - this is such nonsense that the "big boys" will not even seriously discuss. The general concept of the tank is known to any conscript soldier: propulsion, hull, protection, weapons, auxiliary equipment. What else can you patent? But every cunning knot must be protected by a patent. And of course, in the field of weapons, they are all under the heading. And this miracle is not even an invention at all, but a useful model. In a nutshell, a friend differs from a friend as an airplane and its wooden model. For 20 years of work, my colleagues have 2-3 inventions and 40 utility models. Their approximate value is also different. In short, only dill have such tops now and can happen)))
            2. +2
              15 January 2017 10: 41
              A patent is not an assembly drawing. And every bolt is not indicated in it. Although if they want to patent fasteners, they will indicate it.
              Quote: Zibelew
              Quote: Pereira
              You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

              A patent filed by impotents in the field of tank engineering sounds funny. Judging by the figure, the tank has fewer components than the Kalashnikov assault rifle.
            3. +6
              15 January 2017 12: 32
              Quote: Zibelew
              Judging by the tank’s drawing
              fewer parts
              than the Kalashnikov assault rifle.

              My son had a tank in childhood
              solid - so there is where
              still develop ukrainian
              tank building
              1. 0
                16 January 2017 09: 05
                Quote: A.Anatol
                My son had an all-cast tank in his childhood - so there is much more to develop for Ukrainian tank building

                =====
                By the way. When the Kornet ATGM was demonstrated at one of the international exhibitions, a British officer approached the designers, asked about the characteristics, and then said: "If it goes on like this, we'll have to make the tanks WHOLE!"

                Although I personally do not understand how exactly this "Tirex" CAN be a COMPETITOR for "Armata" ??? Even if we allow the INCREDIBLE and this group of amateurs will be able to realize EVERYTHING they are planning (which is incredible in itself by definition!), It will still be just a MODERNIZATION of a tank that is over 50 years old !!
          2. +8
            15 January 2017 10: 39
            And I'm talking about the same thing ... Giggles, chuckles, but they can. Do you think that everything is ruined in the Ruin? You are mistaken ... With our Rogozins, Bears, Grefs, kakals will give us five odds in five years.
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.
            1. +18
              15 January 2017 11: 08
              Quote: 210ox
              Chuckles chuckles, but they can

              Of the T-64 and T-72 tanks? It is already clear that there is nothing there except chatter. Yes, in the USSR they made good tanks with great modernization potential, but everything has a limit.
              1. +33
                15 January 2017 12: 03
                Quote: Dart2027
                Of the T-64 and T-72 tanks? It is already clear that there is nothing there except chatter. Yes, in the USSR they made good tanks with great modernization potential, but everything has a limit.

                We are waiting for the competitor T-50 from the "maize".
              2. +10
                15 January 2017 12: 27
                Quote: Dart2027
                Yes, in the USSR they made good tanks with great modernization potential, but everything has a limit.

                This is not an upgrade, this is a "new" tank. True, according to the developers, on the old platform (this is also understandable, there is no other one), and here the question is: where will they put three crew members?
                And in general, in the current situation, Ukrainian premeditation cannot produce the long-designed and technically proven "Oplot" in the required quantities. And then immediately "Breakthrough, competitor to" Armata "....
                This is a fake, dear colleagues.
                As, incidentally, and many other things that are "produced" and "constructed" on the territory which some, by habit, call "the country of Ukraine"
                1. +3
                  15 January 2017 13: 17
                  Quote: DV69
                  This is not an upgrade, this is a "new" tank

                  The article says that it will be made of old tanks, so in fact it’s modernization.
                  1. +1
                    15 January 2017 13: 47
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    The article says that it will be made of old tanks, so in fact it’s modernization.

                    I just wonder how the crew will be placed in these old tanks, with an uninhabited tower?
                    1. +1
                      15 January 2017 15: 57
                      Quote: DV69
                      how will the crew be accommodated

                      No way. That is, you can place it, but then you have to throw out part of the equipment.
                    2. +1
                      15 January 2017 19: 55
                      Quote: DV69
                      I just wonder how the crew will be placed in these old tanks, with an uninhabited tower?

                      it has already been suggested that the crew will be outside and control the tank remotely.
                    3. 0
                      16 January 2017 08: 59
                      I’m just wondering how the crew will be placed in these old tanks, with an uninhabited tower? [/ Quote] Still, the Khokhlyatsky tank will not have an engine wassat
              3. 0
                16 January 2017 12: 43
                You shouldn’t underestimate them either. The Amer’s tanks will put them on the Poles, and this will be worse than the T-64 and T-72.
            2. +9
              15 January 2017 11: 10
              Quote: 210ox
              With our Rogozin, Medvedev, Gref, kakals will give us five odds in five years.

              Why put Rogozin on a par with these? Not overslept or what? Or intentionally ?! And why did you forget your Putena? Or does he have nothing to do with you?
              1. +2
                15 January 2017 13: 18
                And I 100% agree with my colleague in terms of referring these characters to the same camp. Because all of them including "Mr." D.O. Rogozin devotedly serve American interests in the Russian state.
                Given that the motives of V.V. Putin lies in the space of protecting and upholding the state interests of Russia and its peoples populating him on a par with the above individuals is not appropriate.
                According to the level of legal capacity - also that cannot but rejoice, because allows you to partially compensate for the dirty influence of these liberals.
                Although, someone does not distinguish between colors, what can we say about less obvious motives and achievements of individual figures ..
                The fact that D.O. Rogozin sincerely believes and even predicts the Russians the eternal superiority of the United States in the space industry, having crap himself more than once in the space projects entrusted to him and not only in Russia, and at the same time publicly signs before his overseas "friends" in his own incompetence from blue screens ..
                Well, here, at least even in terms of intelligence, he is not even like our GDP.

                In essence, the article - it was not for nothing that they wrote about raider seizures and problems - when it becomes clear to all ordinary people that nothing competitive Ukrainian statehood as a nonexistent one is able to produce, it will always be possible to blame all the failures on "bastards-raiders". The way to retreat is being prepared in advance.
            3. +15
              15 January 2017 11: 27
              Quote: 210ox
              And I'm talking about the same thing ... Giggles, chuckles, but they can. Do you think that everything is ruined in the Ruin? You are mistaken ... With our Rogozins, Bears, Grefs, kakals will give us five odds in five years.

              Of course, after 5 years, they will give thanks to Maidan))) You can understand the SMSS !!!
            4. AUL
              0
              15 January 2017 13: 25
              Laughter is laughter, but with a patent we can run into a rake. In Soviet times, one cunning American patented a label depicting a high-rise building on a bottle of alcohol - and it dripped from every bottle of Stolichnaya that we exported. She then walked well over the hill.
              1. +2
                15 January 2017 14: 00
                Quote from AUL
                Laughter is laughter, but with a patent we can run into a rake. In Soviet times, one cunning American patented a label depicting a high-rise building on a bottle of alcohol - and it dripped from every bottle of Stolichnaya that we exported. She then walked well over the hill.

                ====
                This is not entirely true !!! On the "export" labels, the shape of the building and the "number of storeys" were changed and patented (the patent stated: "different from patent No. ... in the form and number of floors !!"
            5. Fat
              +1
              15 January 2017 14: 47
              Quote: 210ox
              And I'm talking about the same thing ... Giggles, chuckles, but they can. Do you think that everything is ruined in the Ruin? You are mistaken ... With our Rogozins, Bears, Grefs, kakals will give us five odds in five years.
              Quote: Pereira
              You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

              They won't even give a head start ... Especially for Russia. this is not the rule of modern Ukrainians. There is no need to unfasten the patent. The tank is not a small arms mechanism. Slightly more complicated ... The USSR did not buy a patent for nuclear weapons and did not pay money for know-how "within the legal framework", but produced it ... Nobody seems to have applied to the court on this matter. Shah and Checkmate, Vata
          3. +15
            15 January 2017 10: 53
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

            Shah, shah, let them first let out, and then you’ll be Svidomo. tongue
            1. +7
              15 January 2017 10: 59
              Quote: vlad66
              Quote: Pereira
              You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

              Shah, shah, let them first let out, and then you’ll be Svidomo. tongue

              Judging by the patent we are talking about t 64 and similar Soviet platforms on 6 rinks. And here is Armata? By the way, precisely because the t 90 platform has exhausted itself, UVZ created the Armata platform.
            2. +1
              15 January 2017 12: 08
              Quote: vlad66
              Quote: Pereira
              You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

              Shah, shah, let them first let out, and then you’ll be Svidomo. tongue

              You’re a little tense with humor.
          4. +19
            15 January 2017 11: 13
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented?


            In vain you are groaning. You simply do not know patent law. It is not retroactively patented that which is well known and widely used. So that wide information and a real demonstration is the guarantee that representatives of one well-known people will not appropriate anything.

            And don't worry about the Urals. Every large enterprise has a patent department, the main task of which is to "kick" its engineers so that they formulate their ideas in time and correctly, and help them in this.

            All that is needed has been framed long ago. Do not worry so much.
          5. +11
            15 January 2017 11: 36
            Have our Armata been patented?

            And what exactly was patented in Tirex? The fact that it consists of a hull with a turret on which the gun is installed? Or the brand of armor used and the "unique" technology for its smelting? Or the fact that he is on a caterpillar track? Or a purely Ukrainian "know-how" - an engine from a washing machine? So it is not clear for what and most importantly to whom the money will be unfastened. And of course the most pressing question for Ukraine is: "... where is the money, Zin?"
          6. +12
            15 January 2017 12: 24
            That's what I look Chinese are gored to unfasten the floor of the world ... what
          7. 0
            15 January 2017 13: 23
            Yeah. Only with us Aramat has been on the move for two years, and the Outskirts only have a patent. In this case, in general, the patent cannot even be registered, because already there is a working model of another manufacturer (but in Kiev everything is not so see Gasprom and antitrust business).
            And the alteration from T-64, T-72 immediately excludes this picture from competitors in Almaty.
          8. 0
            15 January 2017 13: 55
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

            ====
            Hello to you (with a brush) !!! The patent is Ukrainian - which means you will have to "unfasten" ONLY with the OFFICIAL delivery of the T-14 to Ukraine ....
            Indiscreet question, and who is going to supply them there ???
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            2. 0
              15 January 2017 15: 38
              Quote: venik
              Quote: Pereira
              You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

              ====
              Hello to you (with a brush) !!! The patent is Ukrainian - which means you will have to "unfasten" ONLY with the OFFICIAL delivery of the T-14 to Ukraine ....
              Indiscreet question, and who is going to supply them there ???


              I’ll reassure or upset you, I don’t know, but even if T-14 is delivered to Ukraine, these freeloaders-patent holders will never get anything.

              They won’t get anything even if someone in Ukraine starts independently producing tanks with an uninhabited tower, even on the basis of former Soviet tanks.

              This patent is only suitable for hanging in a frame on the wall.
          9. +2
            15 January 2017 15: 21
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain.

            I’m not a tanker ... so let the pros say: why is there a thickening on the trunk ??? On Armata it is not, because the tower is uninhabited, but there’s .... it’s either stupidity, or just a joke from computer hooligans ...
          10. 0
            15 January 2017 15: 28
            Quote: Pereira
            You laugh in vain. Have our Armata been patented? If not, you will have to unfasten the patent from the Outskirts from each machine. Checkmate, Vata.

            And with what fright? Outskirts can only be patented. T-14 is so called the Parity first, and not t-rex om. Tear money for knots and mechanisms? So this Pechersky court will issue a finesman without a patent. And how can he know the filling of the tank. That's right - from the ceiling. Velikoukry FSO came up with
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        2. +1
          16 January 2017 06: 44
          all right !!
      2. 0
        15 January 2017 15: 38
        tank "Tireks", which, according to the developers, is a competitor to the Russian "Almaty".
        How can a picture on paper compete with a finished tank? request
    2. +19
      15 January 2017 10: 06
      It remains a bit to buy the LEGO plant. It will be possible to collect not such things.
    3. +4
      15 January 2017 10: 07
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

      It is quite normal to patent his invention, so that later he would demand from others who will produce something like that money, with the slightest similarity of decisions.
      1. +4
        15 January 2017 10: 11
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Mar. Tira
        I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

        It is quite normal to patent his invention, so that later he would demand from others who will produce something like that money, with the slightest similarity of decisions.

        What's so surprising? belay Adam was also Ukrainian request laughing
        1. +10
          15 January 2017 10: 19
          The first people were Adamenko and Yevnyuk.
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        2. +7
          15 January 2017 11: 14
          - Adam, after all, was also Ukrainian.
          And who else can run with his bare ass and shout that he is in Paradise. Not the Jews.
          PS Also Russian ...
          1. +1
            15 January 2017 13: 29
            Actually, Adam didn’t run to Paradise with naked ass. Read the source. Adam worked as a GARDEN in Paradise.
            1. 0
              16 January 2017 03: 02
              but still bare ass)))
      2. +5
        15 January 2017 11: 09
        - It is quite normal action to patent your invention.
        Pay attention - USEFUL MODEL. An invention must meet THREE criteria: novelty, inventive step, and industrial applicability. If the technical solution does not have an inventive step, but demonstrates novelty and industrial applicability, then a patent for a utility model can be obtained for it.
        Patents for utility models are issued without examination by the Ukrpatent examination of the essence of the claimed technical solution (in contrast to inventions where such an examination is carried out), i.e., the check is carried out only on formal grounds — for ONLY correctly executed documents, so go for it.
        1. +2
          15 January 2017 12: 09
          utility model protection period has
    4. +9
      15 January 2017 10: 07
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

      I know. Ukrainian pencil sketches in the style of "technoart", patented by the Ukrainian patent office. It's okay ...
      But it’s not clear why they are patented as a tank ..? recourse Probably because Ukraine is a wonderland ..? fellow
      1. +8
        15 January 2017 10: 22
        When I looked at these pencil sketches at the beginning of the article, I was wondering how well it looked like T64, just redrawn the tower, and then at the end I looked at the support file, and it’s exactly T64))
        1. +4
          15 January 2017 11: 03
          Quote: Bacha
          When I looked at these pencil sketches at the beginning of the article, I was wondering how well it looked like T64, just redrawn the tower, and then at the end I looked at the support file, and it’s exactly T64))

          So this is the deep modernization of T64 and T72, as they say in the Ukrainian defense industry, it is not clear why there is no T80.
          1. +3
            15 January 2017 11: 20
            And in general, why do they need some kind of "Tirex" when there is already a "best in the world" "stronghold"? request
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs8hNsTKeuc
          2. +1
            19 January 2017 08: 55
            So they sold all ТNUMX to the Papuans) And the Soviet Union riveted 80's so much that even these sales geniuses cannot master such a volume)))
    5. +8
      15 January 2017 12: 03
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

      They think it’s like stealing gas ... Russia will pay ..)))) No, this time get it to the fullest ..! ......... well Duc ..a .. b .. well and on .a b x d Ekarny Babai !!!!! negative
      1. 0
        15 January 2017 19: 22
        Quote: STARPER
        No, this time get the full ..

        You’ve already shoved this formidable slogan from the age of 14 ..... now I’m waiting for it to be received? !! .... probably when the old man gets off the couch ....
    6. +1
      15 January 2017 12: 22
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

      What the peasants, then the monkey!
    7. 0
      15 January 2017 13: 10
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

      It remains for us to say: "FOR RENT !!!"
    8. +3
      15 January 2017 13: 57
      Hi!!. Yes, they really stirred up something similar to the Black Eagle to do. No 25 years in vain for nothing called the lost. You can draw everything. And the hard work, the search for solutions does not work out on the fly. It was smooth on paper but there are large ravines called there are neither scientific research nor experimental design. The platform itself will no longer give. The last example by the warring is T-90. Reaching out is already a breakthrough .. The Ukrainian Tirex combat unit will remain experienced, provided there are grandmas. It is noteworthy that once research was going on on this tank. The country was different and now I don’t even know how to raise this operating time. too much is tied up on this subject now after so many years for this country is unbearable. Highly expensive grandmas ask a lot. Yes, the level of production and equipment is completely different. .. We take into account that there is still someone who is trying to do the impossible. in this country. Take it easy. The military-industrial complex of Ukraine could not bring to normal BULAT, OPTOL and then the horror of TIREX
    9. 0
      16 January 2017 08: 56
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

      My fellow says this is the new Shushpanzer! lol

      Shushpanzer - a variety of amateur (common people: self-made) or serial unusual armored vehicles: amazing or ugly; often at the same time.
  2. +13
    15 January 2017 10: 09
    The name is especially pleasing. There is the eponymous remedy for sewage blockages. Marketing geniuses laughing
    1. +6
      15 January 2017 10: 15
      Quote: UI-Spb
      The name is especially pleasing. There is the eponymous remedy for sewage blockages. Marketing geniuses laughing

      Will be offered in a kit to clean the trunk. laughing
      If, of course, there is a working trunk, a non-working one, then what to clean ..? laughing
      1. +12
        15 January 2017 10: 33
        don’t need to work, you need shtob shone
      2. c3r
        +1
        15 January 2017 11: 56
        And a tool for cleaning and deodorizing the air in case of a real battle with the Russian army. Still, put a change of pants!
      3. +1
        15 January 2017 12: 13
        I’m wondering, when they launch this tank, Turchinov’s money will be enough for a toilet cleaner
    2. +8
      15 January 2017 10: 28
      Quote: UI-Spb
      The name is especially pleasing. There is the eponymous remedy for sewage blockages. Marketing geniuses

      So then Tirex is a fossil dinosaur. Not yet created, but already dead
  3. +5
    15 January 2017 10: 09
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

    It is quite normal to patent his invention, so that later he would demand from others who will produce something like that money, with the slightest similarity of decisions.

    Wo! I just wanted to insert a photo of ukrov’s mock-ups. What didn’t work? A huge appetite!
  4. +9
    15 January 2017 10: 10
    Of course it looks - futuristic ... I'm afraid that it will not reach the normal copy, because you need a lot of dough for such developments that are not available in Ukraine now ... And you can build a model of a space tank ....
    1. +2
      15 January 2017 12: 15
      will sell the "concept" to England. personal thought - personal bakshish, not the greatness of the country
    2. +2
      15 January 2017 14: 43
      Quote: ser-pov
      Of course it looks - futuristic ... I'm afraid that it will not reach the normal copy, because you need a lot of dough for such developments that are not available in Ukraine now ... And you can build a model of a space tank ....

      How can it hold out if "It is planned to manufacture a" new generation "tank from old Soviet T-64 and T-72 vehicles."? request
      Quote: antivirus
      will sell the "concept" to England.

      Selling a "concept" is, of course, powerful. Yes Let them take it from "Armata" for free.
  5. +9
    15 January 2017 10: 12
    in the message of the creators of the tank, "the new vehicles are comparable to the most modern armored combat vehicles, including the widely advertised" Armata "".
    It’s not a day that they’re giving a military masterpiece to the mountain. A wild desire to at least somehow compare with Russia. You look at their exchange rates for today. The hryvnia has flown in peak. Now with the ruble 1: 1 will be and will be their holiday of life laughing With a salary of 3 - 5000 hryvnia. And then if they find a job.
  6. +4
    15 January 2017 10: 14
    Pzkpfw-VII Navosetz-II ?!
  7. +6
    15 January 2017 10: 15
    Why patent when the T-14 is already traveling, and the United States, the USSR and Sweden conducted the main research on such an arrangement in 1970-80 ... And if China wants to do it, it won’t take a look at the patent!
  8. +8
    15 January 2017 10: 16
    There is no rest for the gloomy U. Kropitek MozHu ... T-14 is only a part of what can be created on the Armata platform. And from the T-62 to slap something new, it is thankless and, in principle, impossible. It smells like another sawing up of budget funds, if any will be allocated ...
  9. +7
    15 January 2017 10: 17
    I congratulate and greet the authors of this masterpiece in every possible and varied way.
    I am confident that the Azov Research Institute will promptly ensure the production of thousands of such tanks at the Azov Tank Building Plant and provide the 1st Azov Tank Group for a throw to Moscow.
    1. +6
      15 January 2017 10: 31
      Quote: Pereira
      I am confident that the Azov Research Institute will promptly ensure the production of thousands of such tanks at the Azov Tank Building Plant and provide the 1st Azov Tank Group for a throw to Moscow.

      Perhaps the ending of the phrase: "... for a throw to Azov" is better?
    2. +3
      15 January 2017 11: 57
      Quote: Pereira
      will ensure the production of thousands of such tanks at the Azov Tank Building Plant and will provide the 1st tank group Azov for a throw to Moscow.

      Sir! You are hopelessly sick! Apparently you were seriously hit in the head as a child. belay Heal sir, wassat and as soon as possible! Hurry! bully ha ha !!!
    3. +1
      17 January 2017 15: 37
      I am confident that the Azov Research Institute will promptly ensure the production of thousands of such tanks at the Azov Tank Building Plant and provide the 1st Azov Tank Group for a throw to Moscow.

      Yes cast Yes
  10. +5
    15 January 2017 10: 17
    If it were so simple, then the Russian Federation would also make Armata based on the T-90 ... but the platform does not pull already ...
  11. +6
    15 January 2017 10: 20
    The basis for patenting, most likely was the expansion of the scope of the T-64 and T-72 tanks.
    There is nothing new there.
    1. +3
      15 January 2017 10: 23
      ... to use, not as a tank, but as a meat grinder and a meat mixer? A tank is a tank, how can it be used?
      1. 0
        15 January 2017 13: 09
        This refers to the radical modernization and line-up change of Soviet-type tanks.
  12. +17
    15 January 2017 10: 25
    At the same time, it is planned to manufacture the tank of the “new generation” from the old Soviet T-64 and T-72 vehicles.

    I can’t understand why our specialists from Uralvagonzavod did not think of this before ??? request They squander, ponimash, people's money for various innovative developments. And here are SPECIALISTS (that's how all in big letters) from the engineers of the veterans of the Azov battalion once ........, and developed a competitor to Armata. Here's how to save "people's" money ... fellow And we?????????
  13. +10
    15 January 2017 10: 26
    Quote: Zibelew
    Honduras can draw a picture and let them try to make it real. It just needs technology, steel and alloys. In this case, before the battle, it is necessary to cut out the tank parts from the supplied kit, bend along the dotted lines and glue with PVA glue. It’s PVA, since when using glue of the type of moment the actions of the crew become unpredictable ...

    So already mastered technology. They showed a kid who glued a tank of cardboard, with two hulls, one in the other. The enthusiasm for impenetrability was enormous. The boy was prophesied a bright future. Especially after this bastard said something there about the invincible and legendary, in the battles he knew the joy of victory, the army of dill.
    1. +4
      15 January 2017 10: 38
      Am I missing something? where did they know the joy of victory?
    2. +5
      15 January 2017 11: 29
      I watched this story. A juvenile Ukrainian "genius" du.r ... chok, carrying all the nonsense about "double armor", demonstrating a cardboard tank. And the "adult" Ukrainian generals with big stars, with a smart look in front of the camera, listened to this nonsense. In one word, shame.
      1. +13
        15 January 2017 11: 57
        Here it is, this genius of tank building!
        1. +6
          15 January 2017 13: 20
          Why does the "genius" have a vest not in patriotic colors ??? am
          Where is the SBU? Where are the fighters for the purity of the nation?
  14. +5
    15 January 2017 10: 29
    Some strange associations this patent causes. Reminds the assembly instruction for plastic models. True, there are more detailed schemes ...
  15. +5
    15 January 2017 10: 30
    The Ukrainian "National Industrial Portal" published a patent for the Tirex tank,

    Now, probable morons from tank building will be divided into those who bought and did not buy the Ukrainian patent.
  16. +1
    15 January 2017 10: 34
    Rostislav Abramov helped in no other way, now the matter is small lol
  17. +5
    15 January 2017 10: 38
    they received a patent for the name. and that’s it. and now you’ll develop a theme here)))
    1. +11
      15 January 2017 11: 56
      they received a patent for the name. and that’s it. and now you’ll develop a theme here)))

      Do tyrannosaurs know about this? lol Suddenly offended?
  18. +3
    15 January 2017 10: 38
    Thailand tensed ....
  19. 0
    15 January 2017 10: 40
    Well done! We have already learned to glue from paper!
  20. +2
    15 January 2017 10: 51
    Quote: Zaurbek
    ... to use, not as a tank, but as a meat grinder and a meat mixer? A tank is a tank, how can it be used?

    You do not understand. In the patent case there is such a concept, the scope of the patented device. So, if we talk about the use of a tank, then this, of course, is military operations. But to apply as a material for alterations into another product is new. In a meat grinder, if you want, yes. At least no one has thought of this before you. So go ahead, file your patent. But do not talk, otherwise someone will catch the idea and you will be late.
  21. +3
    15 January 2017 10: 55
    But what about the armored trash tank on the tracks "manure"? And why - the kind of garbage does not happen much if it is not taken out? fool And, by the way, is ukroin still seeing 2016, or is it already a new, 2015th? lol They still haven’t made a tank, except for a computer model! fool
  22. +3
    15 January 2017 10: 56
    Fat instead of their brains, they are starry. fool
  23. +2
    15 January 2017 11: 00
    Quote: novel xnumx
    Am I missing something? where did they know the joy of victory?

    Look in the archives of TV shows, and there you will find out the name of this kid. About two months ago I walked across Russia 1. There, even before the question the author was enthusiastic, half a step away. What torture me, I do not know.
  24. +3
    15 January 2017 11: 00
    Donkeys! If only the ejector was removed from the barrel!
  25. +1
    15 January 2017 11: 01
    I have no words: at first they laughed together at the "Sympathy": our "stronghold" will get everyone and break a hot-water bottle like Tuzik. Then it turned out that they did not have qualified turners to assemble a "stronghold".
    It turns out they have developed a new Tirex tank, apparently they have found turners, or maybe the technologies do not provide for turning?
    1. +1
      16 January 2017 03: 17
      why for processing plastic and papier-mâché turner?
  26. +11
    15 January 2017 11: 03
    From this do .. ??? wassat Ukraine do not make the world laugh .....
    1. avt
      +2
      15 January 2017 11: 41
      Quote: STARPER
      From this do .. ??? Ukraine do not make the world laugh .....

      Tie up with this laughter, well, the storage area, well, and even put in a stack of two. So what?? The question is different - How much can they really put on the course of these buildings? It's not about the boxes, they aren’t cars, they don’t quickly rust even like that in such a climate, the stuffing is the components and mechanisms with the equipment. I’m not talking about the nonsense. They want what they want and how they want to let their patches be patented . Well, if anyone has vibrated on this subject, then first familiarize yourself with the general practice of international protection of intellectual property through a patent. Then comes the realization why the Soviet Copyright Certificate was not taken into account over the hill and in reality the state patented what it considered necessary.
      1. +2
        15 January 2017 11: 54
        Quote: avt
        At home, they want what they want and how they want to let them pat their kalyaks. Well, if anyone has vibrated on this subject, then first familiarize yourself with the general practice of international protection of intellectual property through a patent. Then comes the realization why the Soviet Copyright Certificate was not taken into account over the hill and in reality the state patented what it considered necessary.

        With the Kalashnikov it was the same ...))) I don't understand this howl on the site ... What's the matter? We have to pay to Ukraine for "Armata" ha ha ha .... Yes, we will crush them with these Armata and their owners, who whispered it in their ear ... Stop bawling men and talking nonsense ..! Lawyers are vile and corrupt people. ..
        Again, I remind you cunningly .....))))

        there clearly was not without Israel ..)))))
        1. avt
          +3
          15 January 2017 12: 26
          Quote: STARPER
          It was the same with Kalashnik ...

          What happened? ? The professor, who was banned at the request of “fighters against world Zionism,” yes-a-a-clearly and unsuccessfully tried to explain a simple idea - a patent paid in the right countries is not an indulgence for centuries. Like, I invested once and for the rest of my life, take off the foam in search of violators. There is quite a stipulated framework for action and when the payment period is over, think about a new invention or industrial model for patenting ..
          1. +2
            15 January 2017 12: 57
            Quote: avt
            Quote: STARPER
            It was the same with Kalashnik ...

            What happened? ? The professor, who was banned at the request of “fighters against world Zionism,” yes-a-a-clearly and unsuccessfully tried to explain a simple idea - a patent paid in the right countries is not an indulgence for centuries. Like once invested There is quite a stipulated framework of action and when the payment term is over - think about a new invention or industrial design for patenting.

            You wrote some confusion ...! Zionism, banned, professor, patent, due date ....
            Your professor sharpie! negative I knew those who know how to fool their heads (smiling maliciously in the palm ..)))
            1. avt
              +1
              15 January 2017 13: 00
              Quote: STARPER
              You wrote some confusion ...

              laughing Well, really people live by the principle - "I write what I hear, but I hear what I say myself, and only about my own" bully
              1. +5
                15 January 2017 13: 14
                Quote: avt
                Quote: STARPER
                You wrote some confusion ...

                laughing Well, really people live by the principle - "I write what I hear, but I hear what I say myself, and only about my own" bully

                I will react to all of you, I will get a second heart attack ...)))) The main thing I understand is that you and your "professor" are running around the site here, as with an icon ..... It's funny and sad, look in 2013 as he advertised American military equipment .. (and we had nothing to answer him, only minuses ..))) Then the fox shut up ...! negative Do not anger the people avt .... I beg you!
                When I read these, especially from Israel, such music arises in my head ...... I immediately calm down! laughing wink
                1. avt
                  +1
                  15 January 2017 17: 18
                  Quote: STARPER
                  To respond to all of you, I’ll get a second heart attack ...))))

                  laughing Oh, you're lying! You're lying to the king! Why then on the clave button poke it?
                  Quote: STARPER
                  Do not anger the people avt .... I beg you!

                  laughing Holidays don't let go? Well, since you decided to perform a hare in hops? But the fact that ? A collective letter to the moderators for an eternal ban? Yes, no question, how at one time the PMC issued - “Are your hands itching? Scratch in another place. "And rejoice that the minuses were canceled, otherwise there were times here on the site when the uryakaloks were not extinguished, but they were extinguished for sure.
  27. +4
    15 January 2017 11: 04
    “Will be equipped with an armored capsule with seats for three crew members, as well as uninhabited the tower

    A gun with an ejector request
  28. +1
    15 January 2017 11: 08
    If only they would make it in plastic, or from wood. laughing Although there are already SUCH specialists there.
  29. +3
    15 January 2017 11: 14
    from old Soviet cars T-64 and T-72.

  30. +4
    15 January 2017 11: 16
    Quote: Pereira
    the shortest possible time will ensure the release of thousands of such tanks at the Tank Plant

    Aha! They haven’t been able to deliver 49 tanks to Tinland for 4 years already. There was enough gunpowder for 20, and then after all, the Thais fled from them. laughing hi
    RS, did they pay money in advance? Now look for fistulas! recourse lol
  31. +3
    15 January 2017 11: 16
    Quote: 210ox
    Giggles are giggles, but they can. Do you think that everything is ruined in the Ruin?

    Laughter remained only through tears. And about the ditched, then be calm, not everything is ditched, but absolutely everything. In addition to the artisanal assembly of roofing iron, Ukraine is no longer shining. Interestingly, they’ll still put an uninhabited tower, but where will they push the armored module for 64 people into the T-3?
    1. +1
      15 January 2017 16: 31
      Quote: Orionvit
      and where will they push the armored module for 64 people into the T-3?

      Like, like a bunch. That foil wrapped here are those and a personal armored capsule. And so they’ll cut it with a magic saw, the dimensions that are not enough, with super glue, will unbundle the whole business
  32. 0
    15 January 2017 11: 26
    At the concept level, the project is very interesting, but taking into account the Khokhloma chaos, I’m afraid I won’t live up to the stage of creating working documentation for the prototype :-) But our designers may and should think about creating a modular system consisting of an armored capsule for the crew and a remotely controlled artillery module (or modules for different weights and calibers), adapted for installation on different chassis. And not only tank ...
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 15: 01
      Quote: tchoni
      But our designers may and should think about creating a modular system consisting of an armored capsule for the crew and a remotely controlled artillery module

      Does the T-14 already consist of two modules - an armata platform and an uninhabited tower?
      Quote: tchoni
      adapted for installation on different chassis. And not only tank ...

      Which ones? What other chassis can support such a weight?
      1. 0
        15 January 2017 21: 34
        For example, the chassis of the Kurgan. By analogy with an octopus. And if you are a little wiser with caliber, then right up to the banal KAMAZ.
        1. 0
          16 January 2017 00: 01
          I wonder how much the armored capsule weighs?
      2. 0
        15 January 2017 22: 34
        Quote: KaPToC
        Does the T-14 already consist of two modules - an armata platform and an uninhabited tower?

        And also the chassis, engine, active and dynamic protection systems, and other details - do not simplify, please.
        1. 0
          16 January 2017 00: 00
          In a separate module, you can select the engine, the chassis - part of the platform, active protection is built into the tower and is part of it.
  33. +2
    15 January 2017 11: 27
    Quote: Expelling Liberoids
    ... on ukroin still see 2016, or already a new, 2015th? lol They still haven’t made a tank, except for a computer model! fool

    They have their own, Svidomo calendar - the third year of the Maidan era, with all that it implies ...
  34. +3
    15 January 2017 11: 41
    . ".. Let us remind you that in November the Ukrainian media reported that the creation of a prototype Tirex was disrupted" due to the raider seizure of the Kiev plant "Atek" ", where the creators of the machine worked -" Engineering group "Arey" (previously - "Engineering group" Azov "") "

    It should also be recalled that the landlord of these "geniuses" IG "Arey" - the owner of the "Atek" plant, apparently handed over to scrap a prototype of this "remake" T-Rex in payment for the lease debt and drove them out of the plant territory. The fate of "Dung" shines on an ingenious "project". Peramoga!
  35. 0
    15 January 2017 11: 51
    Comrades, enlighten who understands. I, frankly, am a complete layman in armored vehicles, but here I am "tormented by vague doubts," as the manager of Bunsch's house said from "Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession."
    1. The tower of this supertank is somewhat reminiscent of the tower of the Merkava. "I don't know why, but it seems to me so.
    2. The "central part" of the tower, namely the cannon with the breech, without these vmz, I do not know what they are called, I will call them "bevels" to the right and left of the cannon reminds me very much of the lineup of old Soviet tanks developed according to the Rebel projects, " Boxer "(" Hammer ") in the Kharkiv KB
    Or does it really seem so to me? If you can develop these vague doubts of mine
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 13: 52
      Quote: Old26
      The tower of this supertank is somewhat reminiscent of the tower of the Merkava. "I don't know why, but it seems to me so.

      Didn’t it seem to you ...! Valtsman lastly patented himself ALL Ukraine ... laughing Useful in the future .... bully

      Will manage assets from Tel Aviv ...
  36. +2
    15 January 2017 11: 51
    Quote: Zibelew
    impotent in the field of tank engineering patent

    Impotent patent - good rhyme! Yes
  37. +1
    15 January 2017 11: 53
    It is planned to manufacture a tank of the “new generation” from old Soviet T-64 and T-72 vehicles.

    Already imagined how the capsule will be squeezed. Probably have to grease with fat to slip? Another breach for internal use, which Ukraine has not yet died.
  38. +5
    15 January 2017 11: 56
    They can never properly submit news.
    The key in this moment is the inventor - Roman Bogdanovich Zvarych, and not at all a tank. Majorik and deserter, son of former Minister of Justice Bogdan Zvarych. Ex-Minister of Justice Roman Zvarych and his wife Svetlana Zvarych coordinated the attempts to raid the Kiev ATEK plant.
    Remember the song: "Vasya's dad is strong in mathematics." So we squeezed the tank away from the Azov, so that there was something for my little son to ride in nightclubs. Although the family raised money normally, they could have bought a ready-made "Abrams" for their son. Here it is, "Panzerfather".
  39. +1
    15 January 2017 12: 00
    What are you all attached to the patent? Compare the sizes of Armata and T72. How are they going to push the armored capsule for 3 people into the old tank, making the tower uninhabited? How???!!!
    1. Fat
      0
      15 January 2017 15: 07
      Quote: Pontemonmon5230
      What are you all attached to the patent? Compare the sizes of Armata and T72. How are they going to push the armored capsule for 3 people into the old tank, making the tower uninhabited? How???!!!

      Here! This wonderful method is patented, I suppose ...
    2. 0
      16 January 2017 03: 28
      Parts, in one armored capsule of the head, the other hand, in the other ass, etc.
  40. +1
    15 January 2017 12: 00
    Quote: Pereira
    It doesn't matter how many parts the tank has. It is important how many and which nodes are patented.
    I did not find information about patents for nodes and technical solutions of Almaty.

    Patent of Ukraine, applies only to the territory of Ukraine. So the drum that they patented there.
  41. +1
    15 January 2017 12: 01
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    I don’t even know what to say? I'm shocked.

    What can you say ...? Well, there is a certain engineering group in which probably very good design engineers work, well, they received a Ukrainian patent for a certain tank .... and then what? Nothing .... Without "massive" state support of the project and the presence of a coherent production base - a patent will remain a patent successfully "buried" in the archive.
  42. +3
    15 January 2017 12: 48


    The guys were just a little inspired))
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 13: 15
      They just wanted their own leveling branch to appear in the "one game", a separate one is Ukrainian, so they are doing it)))
  43. +1
    15 January 2017 13: 37
    Someone explain to the Ukrainians that the "Armata" is not a tank at all? And whatever you screw on the T-64 chassis, this craft will never become a universal heavy tracked platform.
    1. +5
      15 January 2017 14: 09
      Quote: Berkut24
      Someone explain to the Ukrainians that the "Armata" is not a tank at all? And whatever you screw on the T-64 chassis, this craft will never become a universal heavy tracked platform.

      Let’s explain for everything ... You just need time ..! We got it specifically already ..

      They will have patents and discounts on gas and all the rest .... negative
      1. 0
        15 January 2017 14: 19
        Yes, probably even in those days that old order wink no need to change! am Let it stay the same Yes !!!
  44. +1
    15 January 2017 13: 47
    Quote: Incvizitor
    And in general, why do they need some kind of "Tirex" when there is already a "best in the world" "stronghold"? request
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs8hNsTKeuc

    The best is the enemy of the best.
  45. +1
    15 January 2017 13: 54
    Fat! Fat urgently needs to be patented !!! And also embroidered shirts, maidan and so on
    They also patented their idiocy; it diverges very well in the krajina.
  46. +4
    15 January 2017 13: 57
    Quote: Monarchist
    I have no words: at first they laughed together at the "Sympathy": our "stronghold" will get everyone and break a hot-water bottle like Tuzik. Then it turned out that they did not have qualified turners to assemble a "stronghold".
    It turns out they have developed a new Tirex tank, apparently they have found turners, or maybe the technologies do not provide for turning?

    Only welding. Cut off the tower and weld another. Ordered in Israel. From Merkava.
    Here is the principle:
  47. +3
    15 January 2017 14: 04
    Quote: Orionvit
    Quote: 210ox
    Giggles are giggles, but they can. Do you think that everything is ruined in the Ruin?

    Laughter remained only through tears. And about the ditched, then be calm, not everything is ditched, but absolutely everything. In addition to the artisanal assembly of roofing iron, Ukraine is no longer shining. Interestingly, they’ll still put an uninhabited tower, but where will they push the armored module for 64 people into the T-3?

    Instead of an engine and ammunition.
    Carry on a rope and fart loudly.
  48. 0
    15 January 2017 14: 15
    Azovec v2.0? ... eyes there ... tanks ... etc ....
  49. +1
    15 January 2017 14: 15
    Quote from AUL
    Laughter laughs, and with a patent we can run into a rake.

    ---------------------------
    But can he shoot a patent and attack? Because besides the patent and sky-high mriy, Ukraine is unlikely to give birth to something sane in metal. Unless, of course, engineers dash volunteers and volunteer to stick around the tower with pupils of intercoms, weld garbage cans and put the engine from Daewoo Matiz.
  50. +2
    15 January 2017 14: 16
    I don’t understand how 3 tankers can fit if the tower is not inhabited? Probably you need to dial disabled people without legs and a hook-disabled sign to drive at the wheel.
    1. +2
      15 January 2017 16: 02
      And who told you that the tankers will be in the tank? If there can be an uninhabited tower, why can't there be an uninhabited building?
      1. +1
        15 January 2017 18: 28
        The developers said. Tirex will be equipped with an armored capsule for 3 crew members.
        1. +3
          15 January 2017 19: 12
          Right. But this is such an armored capsule, which is autonomous. You can even install it on the couch at home.
    2. +2
      15 January 2017 16: 48
      Quote: sergei1975
      Probably you need to dial disabled people without legs and a hook-disabled sign at the wheel.

      And finally I don’t understand how my brother was pushed into the t-72. I am not a small person - 50 is 180 in size, but my brother has extra 6 cm in his shoulders and plus 11 in height.
      There are craftsmen you know bully
  51. 0
    15 January 2017 16: 53
    Besides a beautiful description, is there at least a model in wood or plastic?
    What did they patent there?
    A brand called T-Rex?
    Well, okay, but we have the “Armata” brand, maybe then, first, let’s race at the training ground in Alabino, ours on a tank, Ukrainians with posters in their hands... or what do they have from Tirex?
  52. +1
    15 January 2017 18: 09
    an uninhabited tower on bases 64 and 72, well, I don’t know, I was there as a mechanic and there were three of us there. ???? although maybe dwarfs or elves, some different little inches, etc., in short, the designer’s tower seems to be uninhabited
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 18: 13
      Quote: maxi 1920
      I’ve been there in the mechanic’s place and there were three of us there. ???? although maybe dwarfs or elves are some different inches, etc.

      They removed the tank rack and battery, that is, they cleared space to the right and left of the mechanical water tank. So a place appeared there. And the most interesting thing is that they moved the fuel tank and battery in a box ABOVE the MTO....
  53. +1
    15 January 2017 18: 15
    it’s not harmful to dream, but in metal this “masterpiece” of Ukroboronprom is definitely not expected in the near future...
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 21: 31
      This is exactly what is foreseen - everything to create it is available in the hardware.
  54. 0
    15 January 2017 18: 37
    This is not the first time they look stupid...the topic is not worth a damn
  55. +3
    15 January 2017 19: 13
    I liked the drawing from the next page, it fits the theme.

  56. 0
    15 January 2017 19: 29
    The tankers have completely become disillusioned with the “strongest in the world” tank, the T-84; they use it even virtually, the T72!!
  57. 0
    15 January 2017 20: 38
    T-64BV and BM "Bulat"

    I may not know at all, but where will the crew be placed in the T-Rex? What kind of capsule, does Tirex have 6 rollers like Bulat? What kind of uninhabited tower were we talking about......................
    1. +1
      15 January 2017 20: 50
      Quote: APASUS
      I may not know at all, but where will the crew be placed in the T-Rex? What kind of capsule, does Tirex have 6 rollers like Bulat? What kind of uninhabited tower were we talking about......................

      They showed this in their picture. We removed the tank rack and battery, that is, we cleared space to the right and left of the mechanical water tank. So a place appeared there. And they moved the fuel tank and battery in a box above the MTO....
      1. +2
        15 January 2017 21: 30
        Quote: svp67
        And they moved the fuel tank and battery in a box above the MTO...

        - well, the battery is fine... although a couple of bullets are fired at the target, and the tank is left without electricity, which is very unfortunate for a tank
        - but hanging a fuel tank over the MTO is a shame... the fuel is ignited (again, a bullet is enough), and flows by gravity onto the running engine... if there is 5TDF left there (and most likely it is, the base is 64- ka), then he really doesn't like being warmed up. At the same time, he burns like a Swede near Poltava request

        In short - an extremely dubious decision, IMHO.
        1. 0
          15 January 2017 23: 39
          Diesel fuel does not ignite well in the open air, but in cylinders it’s a different matter - 800 degrees, even with an incendiary bullet into the tank, the diesel fuel will flare up slowly - it will be a completely different matter if aviation kerosene is poured in.
          1. +1
            16 January 2017 00: 02
            Quote: Vadim237
            Diesel fuel does not ignite well in the open air, but in cylinders it’s a different matter - 800 degrees, even with an incendiary bullet into the tank, the diesel fuel will slowly flare up

            - this is (censored)
            - and (censored) we don’t treat...

            Vadim, stop disgracing yourself... if only there were disadvantages - you would already look like a hedgehog laughing
            1. 0
              16 January 2017 22: 31
              And I have nothing to be embarrassed about - I wrote the pure truth.
          2. 0
            16 January 2017 19: 17
            Quote: Vadim237
            Diesel fuel does not ignite well in the open air, but in cylinders it’s a different matter - 800 degrees

            It's a pity that solar couples don't know about this...
            1. 0
              16 January 2017 22: 37
              Gasoline vapors will flare up more enchantingly than diesel fuel in the open air, especially since diesel fuel evaporates poorly.
              1. 0
                17 January 2017 04: 24
                Quote: Vadim237
                Gasoline vapors will flare up more enchantingly than diesel fuel in the open air, especially since diesel fuel evaporates poorly.

                Bad, but ENOUGH. Otherwise, more than one diesel engine would not work...
      2. 0
        16 January 2017 19: 03
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: APASUS
        I may not know at all, but where will the crew be placed in the T-Rex? What kind of capsule, does Tirex have 6 rollers like Bulat? What kind of uninhabited tower were we talking about......................

        They showed this in their picture. We removed the tank rack and battery, that is, we cleared space to the right and left of the mechanical water tank. So a place appeared there. And they moved the fuel tank and battery in a box above the MTO....


        I don’t see any extra space here for the crew capsule. Considering that all devices are lowered from the turret into the hull, an automatic loader and separate ammunition rack. The appearance of an additional generator.
        1. 0
          16 January 2017 19: 19
          Quote: APASUS
          I don’t see any extra space here for the crew capsule.

          To be honest, it is there, but frankly speaking, it’s not much...it will sit very tightly...
          1. 0
            16 January 2017 19: 24
            Quote: svp67
            To be honest, it is there, but frankly speaking, it’s not much...it will sit very tightly...

            Considering the equipment and capsule, the fur of water should be the size of a cat or dog
            1. 0
              16 January 2017 19: 27
              Quote: APASUS
              Considering the equipment and capsule, the fur of water should be the size of a cat or dog

              Yes, a normal-sized person, about 1m75 cm tall...
            2. +2
              16 January 2017 19: 45
              Quote: APASUS
              Considering the equipment and capsule, the fur of water should be the size of a cat or dog

              They will find you on the Maidan, train you, attach a colander - and go into battle!
              wassat
  58. +2
    15 January 2017 20: 40
    A country that is not able to convey modernized 64s to the Thais has farted something, it’s just a drain of demagoguery, it seems to me that these idiots are deliberately ostracizing the people.
  59. 0
    15 January 2017 20: 45
    Military equipment is not patented because of secret data, which becomes publicly available when patented. Patenting is for inventions in the civil field. So. what looks like a fake or they are stupid, damn... IMHO.
  60. +1
    15 January 2017 20: 58
    I wonder why there is an ejector on the cannon if the tower is uninhabited? To understand this, you need to dig up, if not the Black Sea, then at least the Sea of ​​Azov.
    1. +1
      15 January 2017 21: 27
      This tank will simply be made from what is available.
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    1. +1
      15 January 2017 21: 49
      Quote: White Noise
      T-Rex bent Armata! Glory to Ukraine!

      - Did you drop the lard? (censored) Bad lard! laughing
  62. 0
    15 January 2017 21: 26
    Technically, nothing prevents Ukraine from making such a tank: the T 64 chassis is in bulk, there are guns, there are automatic loaders - they produce aiming and control systems, dynamic protection too, design and modeling programs, CNC machines and everything else. They will do it - the only question is financing.
  63. 0
    15 January 2017 22: 07
    Dear, you are in vain to “shit”, I read the comments here, carefully examined the picture and what do you think about the good old “Azovets” who slept and cursed the “heroes” from the “Azov” regiment.
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 23: 41
      Surely the creators of the Azovets will design this new tank.
  64. 0
    15 January 2017 23: 46
    They will make an inflatable model, Poroshenko will start talking about hryvnias, pounds, dollars and euros. He will say that no country has such a tank: if you pump it with hydrogen, it will be able to fly. Enemies will simply be mowed to death from laughter...
  65. 0
    16 January 2017 05: 00
    We are waiting...at the "parade in Moscow"!!!
  66. 0
    16 January 2017 06: 23
    A great Ukrainian invention - there is a cannon, but there is no potency, it won’t shoot without Viagra. You drive a shell into the barrel, but the gunpowder is raw, and it just keeps hanging around in the barrel.
  67. 0
    16 January 2017 08: 19
    In my opinion, the old Soviet (small) chassis are more advantageous from the point of view of invulnerability. If the Ukrainians manage to rearrange the fighting compartment and achieve results similar to those of the Armatov, it will be very interesting to look at such a vehicle.

    All this, of course, is very similar to a political and media campaign. Ukrainians now no longer need to think about heavy equipment, but about armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. But leaving politics out of the equation, such a project would be interesting. And re-gluing old cars in a new manner (after assessing the feasibility of the project) is quite an option for modernization.
  68. +1
    16 January 2017 08: 45
    But Russia apparently forgot to patent the T14. Kyiv will now patent pictures depicting military equipment.
  69. 0
    16 January 2017 08: 46
    Quote about international recognition of patents:
    "Most patents are granted to inventors in accordance with domestic law. Thus, patents represent the territorial limits of exclusive rights. The inventor receives a Canadian patent, an American patent, a Mexican patent, etc. Since more than a hundred countries have patent laws, very few "They lack any protection for patents. However, legally protected intellectual property in one country may not be protected in another. For example, many third world countries refuse to grant patents on pharmaceutical products."
    The tank is patented in Ukraine, but this does not mean that other countries should recognize this patent. For recognition, you need to contact the relevant country and wait for it to decide!
  70. 0
    16 January 2017 09: 53
    After the outright failure with Oplot, I don’t see any competition for Armata.
  71. 0
    16 January 2017 10: 34
    Ahahaha!!!! After mentioning the T-64, you don’t have to read this nonsense.
  72. 0
    16 January 2017 12: 49
    Azovian car...
  73. 0
    16 January 2017 12: 53
    Quote: Pereira
    I congratulate and greet the authors of this masterpiece in every possible and varied way.
    I am confident that the Azov Research Institute will promptly ensure the production of thousands of such tanks at the Azov Tank Building Plant and provide the 1st Azov Tank Group for a throw to Moscow.




    Where?) In Red Alert or Sudden Strike?) Or in LEGO?) Models will be assembled from garbage and tanks will be launched.)
  74. 0
    16 January 2017 13: 34
    We are waiting for new patents from our brothers. Wangyu.... Plasma gun from the movie Predator and Spiderman's Web....
  75. 0
    16 January 2017 14: 44
    Quote: Zibelew
    Honduras can draw a picture and let them try to make it real. It just needs technology, steel and alloys. In this case, before the battle, it is necessary to cut out the tank parts from the supplied kit, bend along the dotted lines and glue with PVA glue. It’s PVA, since when using glue of the type of moment the actions of the crew become unpredictable ...

    That's right, but you need to be able to “patent” a picture. But whatever performance characteristics you want, that’s what you’ll install.
  76. 0
    16 January 2017 14: 45
    Will such a tank also be in World of Tanks?)))) Well, hang in there, armchair warriors, it’s the end of Arma))))
  77. 0
    16 January 2017 15: 14
    Why is it no longer fashionable to reinvent the wheel? How far can an information war go?
  78. 0
    16 January 2017 15: 54
    Patented in Ukro-Impotent.
    KhTZ is being cut up for scrap metal, and their miracle tank will be made from their straw. reinforced with manure
  79. 0
    16 January 2017 15: 57
    Am I the only one who wants to laugh at this news???
  80. 0
    16 January 2017 16: 04
    noble srach, interesting to read)))
    ran for popcorn)))
  81. 0
    16 January 2017 16: 10
    T-rex (Tyrannosaurus rex) - went extinct about 65 million years ago. Fact. And this one will die without being born.
  82. +1
    16 January 2017 19: 54
    It seems to me that the turret resembles the turret on Israeli tanks No.
    I do not like it.
    1. 0
      16 January 2017 21: 00
      What are you doing? But this is an anecdote. You don’t like Jewish things. But you can sing Mozart.
  83. 0
    17 January 2017 06: 28
    And again: the newest and most competitive...... A conversion from the Soviet...... 125 mm gun - again from the Soviet..... What will you do yourself??? Well, if there have never been and are no technological capabilities either for casting armor or for making guns, why bother wrinkling your butt in vain?
  84. +1
    17 January 2017 13: 36
    About the new Tale from Ukropov laughing laughing
  85. 0
    18 January 2017 14: 38
    Interesting! "PATENTED"
    According to international law, weapons patents are granted to a party only for finished samples participating in international exhibitions.
  86. +1
    18 January 2017 15: 03
    I don’t understand why there is an ejector on the cannon if the tower is uninhabited? Patents in the military field.. Hmm, interesting.. Will they now force us to pay for armature?
    1. +1
      18 January 2017 15: 07
      Quote: Ilya_Nsk
      I don’t understand why there is an ejector on the cannon if the tower is uninhabited?

      - the mechanisms in the fighting compartment also “don’t like” soot...
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        1. +1
          20 January 2017 13: 14
          but the T-14 doesn’t have
  87. 0
    21 January 2017 10: 50
    Patented does not mean made!
  88. 0
    April 29 2017 01: 33
    Have you patented a drawn tank?
  89. 0
    April 30 2017 21: 18
    As they say: “I made him out of what was there!” You can draw anything, but here’s how to do it, embody it in metal, conduct full tests, given the current state of the Locomotive Plant named after. Malysheva?

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