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In Sevastopol, promised to return to the submarine "Alros" in the current year

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Repair and modernization of the submarine B-871 "Alrosa", located since the summer of 2014, at the 13-m Shipyard in Sevastopol, is scheduled to be completed this year, the site reports FLOTPROM.RU.


In Sevastopol, promised to return to the submarine "Alros" in the current year
B-871 “Alrosa” in 13 ship repair plant, October 2014

“The deadlines for moving the order have shifted from 2016 to 2017 a year,” said company representative Sergey Gorbachev to FlotProm. At the same time, the representative of the shipyard found it difficult to give the exact date of completion of the work.

“The works are in many ways unique, in the conditions of the plant this kind of thing was not done,” he added.

Alrosa was built in 1989 at the Nizhny Novgorod shipyard Krasnoe Sormovo and was the only combat-ready submarine of the Black Sea fleet before the transfer to the latter of the ships of Project 636.3 Varshavyanka.

It is assumed that at the end of the repair, the submarine will return to the Black Sea Fleet. Earlier, the media reported that after the modernization of the submarine will be armed with missiles "Caliber PL" with the launch of torpedo tubes.
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  1. gispanec
    gispanec 14 January 2017 14: 00
    +12
    Earlier media reported that after modernization, the submarine will be armed with Caliber-PL missiles launched from torpedo tubes
    like on Warsaw calibers launched through the periscope ... wassat .
    and I thought it a sinful thing that it would be modified for other purposes .... sorry ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 January 2017 14: 07
      +8
      It may be so, but it will come in handy on the farm for anyone.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 14 January 2017 15: 18
        +13
        Let's see how they handle it. And then often the deadlines are shifted under various pretexts, such as "the work is largely unique in nature, in the conditions of the plant this kind of thing was not done" ...
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 14 January 2017 21: 22
          +3
          The deadline has already been moved. Initially, they were going to pass it back in 2015. Now is 2017.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 14 January 2017 21: 37
            +9
            Delivery deadlines have moved from 2016 to 2017

            Quote: g1v2
            The deadline has already been moved. Initially, they were going to pass it back in 2015. Now is 2017.

            This is what this is about ... It’s not happy ...
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 15 January 2017 06: 26
            0
            Quote: g1v2
            Initially, they were going to pass it back in 2015. Now is 2017.

            From 2014 to 2017 - everything is according to the proverb - "They are waiting for the promised three years" smile
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 14 January 2017 14: 27
      +13
      Quote: gispanec
      like on Warsaw calibers launched through the periscope ...

      Colleague, your sarcasm is still useless yes
      Quote: gispanec
      and I thought it a sinful thing that it would be modified for other purposes .... sorry ..

      Maybe modfink, who knows
      representative of the enterprise Sergey Gorbachev.

      What is he talking about and what is really. hi
    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 14 January 2017 14: 34
      +3
      And you wanted to make "Kalina" out of it? God grant that she continues to serve in her class. Anyway, it will still come in handy for the Black Sea Fleet
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 14 January 2017 15: 02
        +3
        Quote: Monarchist
        And you wanted to make "Kalina" out of it?

        no ... just reconnaissance and sabotage ....
    4. Pirogov
      Pirogov 14 January 2017 14: 46
      +4
      Quote: gispanec
      and I thought it a sinful thing that it would be modified for other purposes .... sorry ...

      And can I clarify for what!? If they put Caliber on it. What else is needed?
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 14 January 2017 15: 05
        +8
        Quote: Pirogov
        And can I clarify for what!? If they put Caliber on it. What else is needed?

        Yes, she doesn’t need a caliber ..... it’s harder to make it quieter, because she has a water cannon ... which means that Gus Nuno is great and a place for swimmers, + new means of communication, rab .... that's all ....
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          1. gispanec
            gispanec 14 January 2017 16: 09
            0
            Quote: rudolff
            So the idea with a scout will not work.

            I didn’t convince ..... honestly, I didn’t bring anything convincing ... I believe that it was a reconnaissance diver ... its new purpose
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              1. gispanec
                gispanec 15 January 2017 08: 49
                +1
                Quote: rudolff
                Boat like a boat

                I didn’t understand ..... and it should be not a boat, but a boatman ?? we don’t have a specialized boat for the delivery of fighters and reconnaissance ... 6 Warsaw women can fulfill their functions, but Kilo could be adapted for reconnaissance ... .Moreover, the Amer kraens come to the Black Sea as if to themselves ....... Well, 5 unfriendly states are washed by the Black Sea ......
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                  1. gispanec
                    gispanec 15 January 2017 14: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: rudolff
                    Regarding Alrosa, it would be good to send her for repair to the Admiralty and leave it on the Baltic

                    maybe ... maybe .. although in shallow water it’s easier to find out ... even so for me its place in the Black Sea Fleet .... maybe they’ll finish another 2 frets that were laid a couple of years ago and they will be assigned to the Baltic with diesels ... .a if it goes into a series of frets with an air-independent installation .... then this is the North and Pacific Fleet .... by the way, what is there with two frets that they then put on hold ... then they continued again .... do not know rudolph?
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        2. Pirogov
          Pirogov 14 January 2017 16: 58
          +2
          Quote: gispanec
          Yes, she doesn’t need a caliber ..... it’s harder to make it quieter, because she has a water cannon ... which means that Gus Nuno is great and a place for swimmers, + new means of communication, rab .... that's all ....

          Range Caliber compensates for silence and everything else!
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 14 January 2017 17: 12
            +2
            Quote: Pirogov
            Range Caliber compensates for silence and everything else!

            .... we have in VO ... idiots ... liberals .... fools .... clever ... ev
            Rei ..... and there are calibrators .... the truth is not even funny ....
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov 14 January 2017 19: 50
              +5
              Quote: gispanec
              ... we have in VO ... idiots ... liberals .... fools .... clever ... ev
              Rei ..... and there are calibrators .... the truth is not even funny ....

              But it’s funny to me that you and a submarine of whom you want to do a wunderwafel for 20 years!
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 14 January 2017 20: 45
                0
                Quote: Pirogov
                And it’s funny to me that you and a submarine of whom you want to make a wunderwafel for 20 years

                fool to deliver swimmers is a wunderwaffle ?? !! and what is 20 years old? .... this is not your viburnum, which after 3 years in the trash ....
                1. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 14 January 2017 21: 20
                  +6
                  Quote: gispanec
                  deliver swimmers is a wunderwaffle?

                  You do not address me such emoticons, if we have a dialogue with you, so let us conduct it, and not build a bazaar! As for the swimmers, this is a necessary thing, but apparently the management knows better! The Russian Navy is in such a state that, in the first place, in my opinion there aren’t enough strike ships! So they put the Caliber wherever possible! But how else to explain the installation of the Caliber instead of the same Uranus on the RTOs Buyan M and Corvettes of the project 20380? And the explanation is the simple absence of ships of the 1st and 2nd rank in the Russian Navy in the right amount.
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                3. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 15 January 2017 14: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: gispanec
                  this is not your viburnum, which through 3 years in the trash ....
                  ABOUT! Yes, you are a seer with us!
                  Kalina is just being designed, and you will send it to the trash already in 3 of the year .... The original method of combat use, however.
                  1. gispanec
                    gispanec 15 January 2017 15: 28
                    0
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    ABOUT! Yes, you are a seer with us!

                    I told you a boa about Vanya and you told me about Yerema .... there’s nothing to comment on .... without knowing the ford, I got into the boa ...
                    1. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 16 January 2017 01: 35
                      +3
                      Quote: gispanec
                      I told you a boa about Vanya and you told me about Yerema .... there’s nothing to comment on .... without knowing the ford, I got into the boa ...

                      Mr. gishpanets! I will answer in order of receipt of your pearls!
                      1. About Eremu, (Kalina) it is you from the great mind weaved. Yes, and so dashingly that I already wanted to put you back in line, these, like their ... "sickly green" - in! For you obviously do not pull on the naval crucian carp ... Yeah ...
                      2. Who comments on the obvious. You with your epotage are out of the rules, out of competition. For aggressive DBs, after Gridasov’s departure from the site, are now in short supply ...
                      3. The idiocy of your phrase "not knowing the ford climbed a boa constrictor" - is obvious even to a student. Boas do not need a FORD !!! They swim great! Why would they ford, you are our landlord, "m..rya..k", who served in the USSR!
                      In short, no offense, - learn the materiel, Mr. Gishpanets ...
                      1. gispanec
                        gispanec 16 January 2017 08: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        About Yerema, (Kalina) you from the great mind intertwined

                        already flew away ?? ... viburnum in this case was a car industry .... because the Persian claimed that 20 years for a submarine is a sign of great-grandfather and this is rubbish .... and he explained to him in this form that rubbish is in our auto industry, and not in shipbuilding, where the strength has become completely different ....
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        For you so far obviously do not pull on fleet crucian ... Yeah ..

                        not even trying to pull ..... ?? !! .... satisfied ...
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        The idiocy of your phrase "not knowing the ford climbed a boa constrictor water"

                        idiocy rushing out of a boa constrictor .... it’s not knowing the ford (about viburnum cars) climbed to pickle into the water .... what can I add?
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 15 January 2017 14: 33
              +2
              Quote: gispanec
              .... we have in VO ... idiots ... liberals .... fools .... clever ... ev
              rei ..... and there are calibrators ...

              Dear, you yourself belong to which of these unique groups? laughing
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 15 January 2017 15: 31
                0
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                Dear, you yourself belong to which of these unique groups

                to the anarchists ... but you are a separate unique combination of clever idiots and stupid Jews ....
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 16 January 2017 01: 21
                  +2
                  Quote: gispanec
                  but you are a separate unique combination of clever idiots and stupid Jews ...

                  Mr. * gishpanets * ... Navigators have a golden rule: what I see is what I sing. And here's the bad luck: you can’t lie, otherwise you can destroy the ship, you can land the cap and sit down yourself for a navigation incident (violation of the rules of ship navigation) for about five years ... Yeah, here.
                  Therefore, with lieutenant snot, I am trained to speak the truth, or what I see. Your incomprehensible aggressiveness towards my friend Rudolf - I categorically do not accept and do not understand. This - as for the "smart uryakalka".
                  But that's why I, a hare born on Sakhalin, suddenly became a "stupid Jew" - kill me, I can't understand. bully
                  1. gispanec
                    gispanec 16 January 2017 08: 47
                    0
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Your incomprehensible aggressiveness towards my friend Rudolph

                    I advise you to wipe the glasses and you will see that there is no aggression ..... there is something between the argument and the imposition
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    Therefore, with lieutenant snot trained to tell the truth

                    so you were taught to tell the truth from 23 years old ...? ... hesitating ... I was taught this from 2 years old ...
                    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                    But that's why I, a hare born on Sakhalin, suddenly became a "stupid Jew

                    born even in Moscow, even in Yakutsk-opriori not the fact that Russian !!! (well, it’s a kind of a prelude joke) rested against viburnum (auto) thinking that it’s a submarine (which is not even on paper) it’s stupid .... but interfering in other people's discussions with imposing the correct opinion and aggressive rhetoric is a Jewish feature - explained ?
                    1. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 16 January 2017 15: 01
                      +2
                      Quote: gispanec
                      How did you learn to tell the truth from 23 years ...? ... lingering ... I have been taught this from 2 years.

                      Gishpanets, do not be for ... ec! ()
                      I did not go over to "you" with an opponent who was trying to leave the last word. Therefore, it was necessary to study culture from 2 years old ... Yeah ...
                      The fact that he quickly disowned service claims shows your true military professionalism as a conscript. Therefore, when grown-up guys, admitted to independent control of ships / submarines and formations, talk about a military topic, it is better to listen. Maybe something sensible in the attic will catch on the gyrus ... Although .... Well, it's not forbidden to wish for improvement, is it? Look how popular you explained to me why I became "God's chosen one" in my old age!
                      Do not be sad! See you in the margins of the site ... laughing
                      1. gispanec
                        gispanec 16 January 2017 16: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        Therefore, when adult uncles admitted to independent control of ships / submarines and formations speak on a military topic, it is better to listen.

                        I'm tired of listening to nonsense and urai patriotism .... you read smart people and really think everything is so bad with your heads .... although I can’t say this about you boa constrictor ...
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        The fact that you quickly disowned claims in the service shows your true military professionalism of the conscript

                        my professionalism as a conscript was urgent when I was doing physico lieutenants and older men .... and then when I encountered the fleet it became even more fun ....
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        Maybe something sensible in the attic will cling to the gyrus

                        Well, you’re convoluted from the cap ... for that matter, I’m 2 higher and all under the USSR, but I won’t explain to you about the military topic for a long time .... and the rest of my life in the midst of the military and naval ...
                        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                        I did not go over to "you" with an opponent who was trying to leave the last word. Therefore, it was necessary to study culture from the age of 2.

                        they began to teach me only after 46 and somehow it did not take root
          2. mamuka
            mamuka 17 January 2017 22: 57
            0
            "Caliber's range compensates for the silence and everything else!" - I'm not a specialist, but with such a range, the caliber can be placed on ships and on the shore. the good of the sea is small, it will get it from everywhere. Why sharpen the submarine under the caliber? Is there really no submarine more exclusive properties than the carrier of these missiles?
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 15 January 2017 14: 21
        +1
        Quote: Pirogov
        If they put Caliber on it. What else is needed?

        In fact, the lithium-ion battery did not interfere.
        But I'm afraid that even for AlRoss it will be ... a terrible financial burden. laughing
    5. UralMan
      UralMan 14 January 2017 15: 53
      +1
      Quote: gispanec
      like on Warsaw calibers launched through the periscope ...

      --------
      maybe through ... latrine? good good
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 14 January 2017 16: 03
        +12
        Quote: UralChel
        maybe through ... latrine?

        it’s immediately clear that you are not a seaman ....... only mines are put through the latrine fool ..... every crucian knows this .... drinks
        1. UralMan
          UralMan 14 January 2017 16: 50
          +2
          Quote: gispanec
          ... every crucian knows this ....

          ---
          where did you see crucian at sea?
          and that’s probably him ....
          1. gispanec
            gispanec 14 January 2017 17: 14
            +4
            Quote: UralChel
            where did you see crucian at sea?

            probably 100 times I saw ... and hunted for jade ... but in this case, the crucian is called the first year in the Navy .... well, I still served with the USSR ...
            1. UralMan
              UralMan 14 January 2017 19: 32
              0
              well thank you....
              USSR Navy and now the Russian Navy, glory!
              And you health!
              I have the honor ...
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 14 January 2017 20: 46
                0
                drinks thank you ... and you do not get sick
    6. sir_obs
      sir_obs 14 January 2017 16: 24
      +2
      Well, at the frets, the UVPs stand on 10 missiles, that is, they fire vertically upwards, and not through the devices.
      You can charge either calibers or onyx.
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 14 January 2017 16: 48
        +1
        Quote: sir_obs
        Well, at the freighters of the UVP are 10 missiles,

        what does it matter ??????? ... do you write about loaves or about boreas ..... did you even catch the point?
        1. sir_obs
          sir_obs 14 January 2017 19: 31
          +3
          I caught the essence when I went to the midshipman’s. And when he commanded a hidden vessel only in this essence and inhabited.
          In the process of modernization, a lot of things can be done, including the installation of a vertical start-up, but if they write about the device, then the customer did not express such a desire.

          And if you want ... on project 613 they cut out a whole compartment and stuffed it there. bathyscaphe, as an example.
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    7. drunkram
      drunkram 14 January 2017 20: 45
      +1
      when I watched this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=
      fwja7sogNs4
      I was even horrified and already thought about it, and suddenly on 6363 vertical launchers with caliber-nk
  2. HOLMS_2000
    HOLMS_2000 14 January 2017 14: 02
    +1
    And it is possible in more detail. How did it happen that there was one?
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 14 January 2017 14: 05
      +41
      Quote: HOLMS_2000
      And it is possible in more detail. How did it happen that there was one?

      what more? who was alone?
      if about Alrosa ... then it was like that ....... once upon a time at the Black Sea Fleet there were more than 10 submarine units .... and now the distant 91 year came ... the country fell apart and Ukraine became independent .. .... and the evil goblin began to lead it ... and forbade this goblin to update our fleet both surface ships and submarines ...... years passed ... salt water, wind and metal crews got the upper hand on nine ... and they began to write them off and write them off ... write them off and write them off, and on one sunny day the Black Sea Fleet only had one torpedo boat on a jet engine .... and their name was Alrosa ... she was bored and hard .. .and she was waiting for her sisters ... Warsaw ... and when she found out that the sisters would come to her soon ... she got sick and sent her for treatment at the Sevastopol factory .... where she is now curing and recovering. ... well, something like this in more detail
      1. Monarchist
        Monarchist 14 January 2017 14: 37
        +7
        Well done comrade, with humor and an exhaustive answer
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          1. gispanec
            gispanec 14 January 2017 16: 00
            +3
            Quote: rudolff
            And on the Baltic Fleet, too, the evil goblin forbade updates?

            yes ... forbidden ... after all, the dark side of the force, still does not make it possible for light volodya to build a terrible death star ... and the years go by ..... the separatists are getting stronger ... there are already 63 or 64 kraken launched .... and common people prayed .... what should we do, my friend? .. where to go ?? ... and in the Black Sea Fleet the devastation and the Baltic Fleet became impoverished .... in the Northern Fleet the sailor is starving .... but you can’t talk about Toph .... you’ll be thrown into prison and quartered as an enemy of the liberal .... but then God's will descended on us and came down to us on the affectionate wings of truth -rudolph .... even if he bore Basurmansky name ... and he didn’t see kindness in people .... but he was a fair punishing angelome .... .and he came down to us servants for one purpose ... to punish negligent shipbuilders ..... to punish the rulers of the Rusich .... so that the land of the Orthodox could survive in the fight against 64 overseas Kraken and their adherents .... our Russian rooks really didn’t update by the fact that they didn’t build, but if they did, then they wouldn’t get to the Black Sea Fleet anyway ... so he took up his rudolph and rolled up his breath .... I take my leave ....
            PS you ask why all my dregs will answer .... rudolph answered his dregs .... after all, it was only about the Black Sea Fleet and the Reasons for only 1 square ... and not about the composition of the entire Navy .....
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              1. gispanec
                gispanec 14 January 2017 17: 16
                +2
                Quote: rudolff
                . They simply did not build and did not plan to build

                But the point is to plan when you still can’t base it in the Crimea ?? ...... what used to be a chicken or an egg? ... eh? ... rudolph ?!
                "Sorry, gispanec," - no, I'm not sorry ..... you are not a critic, and I am not an honored writer .. so ... I wrote a book for the kids and handed it out for free, .....
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                  1. alexng
                    alexng 15 January 2017 07: 24
                    +1
                    In fact, it would not hurt at first to restore the 13 plant itself. After all, since the years of Khokhlyad management in the Crimea, it has almost collapsed, because they did not allow it to carry out repair work on ships and submarines, and for this reason, no money was allocated from the Russian side to this plant in those days.
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                      1. Boa kaa
                        Boa kaa 15 January 2017 15: 07
                        +2
                        Quote: rudolff
                        Sent to Zvezdochka to the North or to the Admiralty in the Baltic, it would have been in operation for a long time.
                        Over the sea, the heifer stands half-way, but forwarding is the ruble! (C)
                        Apparently the operation of transporting / towing it to the Baltic would cost more than its entire modernization ...
                        And then, the remaining working class 13 srz needed to be fed with an order ...
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                  2. gispanec
                    gispanec 15 January 2017 08: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: rudolff
                    while Vysotsky’s nerves could not stand it.

                    that is, do we have to bow to Vysotsky’s legs ?? .... is he the 12th Warsaw woman in the state broke?
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                      1. gispanec
                        gispanec 15 January 2017 14: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: rudolff
                        where so much evil causticism comes from?

                        it seemed to you ....
                        Quote: rudolff
                        Vysotsky’s merit is that he voiced what everyone already knew about, but they were afraid to say

                        Well, he was not the only one who promoted this .....
    2. avt
      avt 14 January 2017 14: 10
      +4
      Quote: HOLMS_2000
      And it is possible in more detail. How did it happen that there was one?

      Ukry forbade to update and supplement the ship composition of the Black Sea Fleet based in Sevastopol, and there was nowhere else to put. In Novorossiysk, the construction of the base is just being completed, and specifically for the submarine in particular. So there was only one, Alrosa, I somehow even forgot about her bully Well, at least let it be like that.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 14 January 2017 15: 11
        +1
        A year ago, in the 13th Alrosa participated in the parade on the day of the Navy in Baltiysk as part of the DCBF. Then I became interested, it seemed to be under repair in Baltiysk.
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 14 January 2017 15: 21
          +2
          Quote: Igor V
          A year ago in the 13th Alrosa participated in the parade on the day of the Navy in Baltiysk as part of the DCBF

          Well, not otherwise a flying Dutchman ...
          1. Igor V
            Igor V 14 January 2017 17: 01
            +3
            In 2011, she underwent scheduled repairs in Kronstadt, at the end of July 12th participated in a parade in Baltiysk - passed, and, by the way, the Lipetsk Northern Fleet submarine was in service.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 15 January 2017 06: 58
        +1
        Quote: avt
        In Novorossiysk, they are only just completing the construction of a base, and specifically for submarines in particular.

        Construction of the Navy base in Novorossiysk (photo report)
        http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67848
  3. broshtein
    broshtein 14 January 2017 14: 08
    +21
    As a Russian Jew, I’ll be frank so that All Slavic Russia will move from the dead point of economic development, not disappear as a state and begin to industrialize with leaps and bounds, really powerful sanctions of the West and the USA are really needed, so that Putin finally understands that it is necessary to quickly change the economic and the political structure of Russia - the foundation and foundation of all Slavic Russia!
    As for the junta of Ukraine, its tactics for the gradual capture of the Ukrainian armed forces in the territories of Donbass are understandable even to children! Probably it is not clear to the leaders of the Donbass? Well, rightly so, they will know how much depends on Putin! It was clear back in 2014 that a ceasefire would lead to the defeat of the Donbass if such a crap with a ceasefire would continue!
    The defeat of the Donbass is a large-scale war between Russia and the new Ukrainian army, the USA and NATO, which can lead to the disappearance of all Slavic states!
    The so-called Ukrainians, who advocate a separate state, are traitors to one people and their great homeland of Russia! This is especially true of the traitors of the Slavs! These Anglo-Saxon bedding for alms from the West and the United States are ready to sell their kind! The degenerates whom the Slavic woman gave birth, and the walking girl! Any Russian born Slavic or who considers himself Russian and speaks Russian should defend his great homeland Russia from external and internal enemies!
    Therefore, every soldier or officer who considers himself a Russian must protect his family and cleanse the ancient Russian city - the great Kiev from Anglo-Saxon litter and traitors, teaming up with those who are fighting against US puppets - the Bandera Nazis - with the bloody brainchild of Russia's enemies! Ukrainians with brainwashed nationalism are traitors to the Slavic clan and All Russia!
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 14 January 2017 14: 47
      +2
      Corporal, you are right that: "... Those who consider themselves Russian and speak Russian must defend their Great Motherland, Russia, then external and internal enemies" ... And we have a great many external and internal enemies, and also there are such "friends" that you don't need enemies
    2. Gerasim Donskoy
      Gerasim Donskoy 14 January 2017 16: 59
      +8
      Armor, and who authorized you to carry all this nonsense, and even on behalf of the DLNR? Technically, everything has long been ready for us to exist without Ukraine. We are no longer Ukraine, and this is well understood in Kiev and the State Department, and therefore they are furious. What drove off the cart was gone. It remains only to obtain a certain status, preferably without a military battle and that’s all, the train went to the confederation and further, to an independent path-road!
      1. alexng
        alexng 15 January 2017 07: 43
        0
        Here is a small fraction of the data that not everything is so bad in our country, as liberal spiteful people and other hedgehogs paint with us.
        http://fritzmorgen.livejournal.com/981140.html?ut
        m_source = russianpulse.ru & utm_medium = link & utm_comp
        aign = article
  4. svp67
    svp67 14 January 2017 14: 14
    +5
    Repair and modernization of the submarine B-871 "Alrosa", located in the summer of 2014 at the 13th Shipbuilding Plant in Sevastopol, is planned to be completed this year.
    The main thing is that they do not take a loan from Alfa-Bank ...
  5. Stabilization
    Stabilization 14 January 2017 14: 21
    0
    IS launched a massive attack on the Syrian army in Deir ez-Zor
    14 January 2017, 13: 54
  6. Evil 55
    Evil 55 14 January 2017 14: 48
    +1
    I wouldn’t rot only .. during the modernization process.
  7. vetor
    vetor 14 January 2017 14: 48
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    Quote: svp67
    Repair and modernization of the submarine B-871 "Alrosa", located in the summer of 2014 at the 13th Shipbuilding Plant in Sevastopol, is planned to be completed this year.
    The main thing is that they do not take a loan from Alfa-Bank ...

    Or Privat Bank
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 14 January 2017 15: 07
      +2
      Quote: vetor
      Or Privat Bank

      fool it’s in hi to the bank and take ...... there you can not return ......
  8. lecturer
    lecturer 14 January 2017 15: 18
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    "Old horse, although it doesn’t plow deeply, but will not spoil the furrows!"
  9. BLACK-SHARK-64
    BLACK-SHARK-64 14 January 2017 16: 26
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    Quote: UralChel
    Quote: gispanec
    like on Warsaw calibers launched through the periscope ...

    --------
    maybe through ... latrine? good good

    through anal .....
  10. BLACK-SHARK-64
    BLACK-SHARK-64 14 January 2017 16: 26
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    Quote: vetor
    Quote: svp67
    Repair and modernization of the submarine B-871 "Alrosa", located in the summer of 2014 at the 13th Shipbuilding Plant in Sevastopol, is planned to be completed this year.
    The main thing is that they do not take a loan from Alfa-Bank ...

    Or Privat Bank

    in horseradish bank ..... wassat
  11. vglazunov
    vglazunov 14 January 2017 18: 06
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    Repair old and build new, little time is left ...
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 15 January 2017 07: 04
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      Quote: vglazunov
      , time is running out ...

      To what? Everything is lost? So is it worth it to fuss ... go drink vodka or something ... recourse
  12. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 14 January 2017 20: 45
    +2
    make a firebrand .. fill with hexagen. and to the shores of the USA .. until the right moment, let it rest there.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 15 January 2017 07: 06
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      Quote: Atlant-1164
      make a firewall .. fill it with hexagen. and to the shores of the USA .. until the right moment, let it rest there

  13. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 15 January 2017 07: 55
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    Still serve!
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 15 January 2017 18: 23
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    good idea, let's see how it will be embodied in reality, and the old woman will still serve ...
  15. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 16 January 2017 23: 24
    +2
    gispanec, Sorry, import, something with the site: does not want to copy your pearls. Apparently admins are already exhausted ....
    But I’ll try to insert a few words after that.
    1. In 46 years others are taught. And you only began to teach courtesy ... A missed chance!
    2. As for the upper formations. If there is no ASH, then better shut up. Well, at worst MNF ?, KTN? -- not???
    3. How did you, imported, rotating all the time among the military and naval, remained "pristine clean", not even infected with the bacillus of idiocy from them ??? Ah-ah ... This is probably because you didn't even have a crinkle from your cap !!! So attack, so attack!
    4. That they honestly admitted (the culture doesn’t bother!) Says that you, an imported, not completely lost KARAS. Maybe to retire, that way to 65 and learn something. Of course not a fact, but BE - it can!
    Therefore, pick up culture, there will be something to talk about in the pages of VO. lol