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South Ossetian army will be part of the Russian Armed Forces

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The units of the army of South Ossetia will be part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, said the Minister of Defense of the Republic, Ibrahim Gasseev.




“The relevant agreement is already being prepared for signing. After it enters into force, the Russian side will recognize active military service in the republic’s armed forces and South Ossetian military tickets ”, - quotes the Minister Republican Agency "Res".

At the same time, “all changes in the organizational and staffing structure after the signing of the agreement will be made by the republic’s military,” said Gasseev.

“Thus, the Ministry of Defense will keep combat units. This is our firm position, ”he stressed.

According to the minister, the leadership of the republic is trying to ensure that when entering the service in the Russian army, military ranks and seniority in the army of South Ossetia are recognized.

“We will not allow our soldier, sergeant, officer with combat experience, battle wounds, government awards and considerable length of service to be equal to the 18-year-old conscript of the Russian army. We respect our servicemen and will continue to seek recognition of their merits, ”he said.

Plans to include units of the South Ossetian army as part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation were announced as early as March 2015, when Moscow and Tskhinvali signed an agreement “On Alliance and Integration”.

In particular, the second paragraph of the 2 article of the treaty stated that Russia would ensure the defense and security of South Ossetia, and for this purpose “separate units of the Armed Forces and the republic’s security bodies are part of the Armed Forces and the security agencies of the Russian Federation by agreement of the parties ".

"The order of entry, operation, application and provision of these units is determined by a separate agreement, which the contracting parties undertake to enter into no later than six months from the date of entry into force of this agreement," the document says.

As noted by military expert Viktor Murakhovsky, Russia already has experience in recruiting citizens of another country. An example is the Crimea.

If units of the South Ossetian army join the Russian Armed Forces, the process leaders will most likely be guided by a model already worked out with Chechnya, “that is, it is not about recruiting recruits and then distributing them in Russia. No, they will form separate units on their territory, ”the expert noted.
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  1. OLD FART
    OLD FART 14 January 2017 09: 55
    +26
    Liberasts will now howl about the creeping aggression of Russia ... laughing Everything needs to be done in a hurry, this applies to Ukraine, etc. ...
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 14 January 2017 09: 59
      +16
      Quote: STARPER
      Liberasts will now howl about the creeping aggression of Russia ... laughing Everything needs to be done in a hurry, this applies to Ukraine, etc. ...

      Well, what kind of aggression is this? We open our arms, accept for allowance ... laughing
      And in general, the unrecognized South Ossetia has no more army. Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of! laughing
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 14 January 2017 10: 03
        +17
        Quote: Observer 33
        Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of!

        Joining Russia smacks of ...))) Beautiful nature there ....
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 14 January 2017 10: 47
          +15
          Liberasts will now howl about the creeping aggression of Russia ...

          I am sure that before taking such a step, everything was weighed and thought out. Therefore, liberalists will receive a sensible answer to their cries. Preferably, for the cabbage soup! laughing
        2. cap
          cap 14 January 2017 11: 03
          +7
          Quote: STARPER
          Quote: Observer 33
          Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of!

          Joining Russia smacks of ...))) Beautiful nature there ....


          Queen Tamara rolled over in a coffin. After all, she gave the Ossetians land on her territory indefinitely for all time, for protecting Georgia from invaders.
          Our army arrived. Respect to Georgians for Ossetians. Ossetian warriors are beautiful. Now Georgia, straight to NATO. Poor orphans and offended. St. George’s tract is forgotten, still comes around.
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 14 January 2017 11: 04
          +4
          Not just smells, essentially joining and preparing. Now the border is marked with Georgia. The Georgians shouted that they had squeezed out a piece of an important pipeline. belay I think that next year, and maybe this South Ossetia will be part of the Russian Federation. The only question is whether it is a separate entity or will unite with North Ossetia.
          1. WKS
            WKS 14 January 2017 11: 18
            +1
            Quote: g1v2
            I think that next year, and maybe this South Ossetia will be part of the Russian Federation.

            This will not happen in the near future. No one needs a new scandal over Russia's imperial ambitions. It is one thing to recognize independence and quite another to include in the country. Crimea is one thing of strategic and political importance, and South Ossetia is another. In fact, the population of South Ossetia enjoys all the rights of Russian citizens.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 14 January 2017 11: 42
              +22
              Ossetians are one of the main peoples of Russia. They have been standing back to back with us for more than a century. They are Orthodox. They never had any separatism. They chose a long time ago that their fate is connected with ours and do not change this idea. North Ossetia and specifically Vladikavkaz is Russia's main bastion in the Caucasus. This is our main fortress there. Therefore, Chechen fighters regularly carried out terrorist attacks in Ossetia - avenging their position. There are not so many Ossetians in the world, and a significant part of them has been cut off by the border. For a small nation, this is a strong separation. This problem must be fixed.
              There will be no special sanctions on this subject for a simple reason - all that they could afford to introduce has already been introduced. The Russian Federation recognized South Ossetia’s independence 9 years ago, no legal problems are expected from our side either. request
              Well, about the strategic position - this is our expansion on the other side of the Caucasus Range and control over the tunnel. Moreover, our base is already there. Plus, this provides us with the protection of the Roki Tunnel from two sides and the control of the Trans-Caucasian Highway AND THE POSSIBILITY OF FREE TRANSPORT OF TROOPS THROUGH IT THROUGH THE RIDGE. Well, after the South Ossetia’s accession to us, the value of our base in Armenia drops, since we will already have our OWN territory on the other side of the ridge, where we can place everything we needhi
              1. garnik
                garnik 14 January 2017 19: 11
                +4
                Well, after the accession of South Ossetia to us, the value of our base in Armenia drops, since we already have our OWN territory on the other side of the ridge, where we can place everything we need.
                ---------------------------------
                That's right. Ossetians are one of the few nations who want Russia to prosper. Good warriors. Rich Georgians gave their sons to be brought up in Ossetian families.
                At the expense of Armenia, you are wrong. They, like the Ossetians, are surrounded by enemies. And you are forced to look for an ally. If you look at the map of the border of Nakhichevan and Turkey, there is a 7-kilometer stretch of the common border, exchanged with Iran 1 to 3. The Turks dream of uniting, Turkey and Azerbaijan (especially Transcaucasian Turks want to merge into one people). Armenia as a bone in the throat, Iran also understands this (this is an ally), and Russia therefore will have a base in Armenia, these two countries are interested in it. Otherwise, they are forced to provide NATO bases. (Armenia has no opportunity to confront Turkey.)
                Glad for Ossetians. Long live united Ossetia.
          2. Odysseus
            Odysseus 14 January 2017 12: 00
            +1
            Quote: g1v2
            I think that next year, and maybe in this South Ossetia will become part of the Russian Federation.

            I doubt. The accession of South Ossetia is a reason for the extension of EU sanctions. And for a long time. And the leadership of the Russian Federation strives to remove them.
            Personally, I am entirely for the entry of South Ossetia, but I’m not sure that the government will have enough resolve for this.
            Quote: g1v2
            The only question is whether it is a separate entity or will unite with North Ossetia.

            Unambiguously unite. This is if South Ossetia nevertheless becomes part of Russia.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 14 January 2017 21: 11
              +2
              If the leadership of the Russian Federation sought to lift the sanctions, they would have been lifted back in 2015. request To extend the sanctions, a unanimous decision is needed from all EU countries - including such guys as Tsipras or Orban. It would be easy to agree with any of them. Moreover, Tsipras seems to have proposed this. There were no negotiations over the lifting of sanctions over 3 years - just a public regret that the Europeans themselves were suffering because of the sanctions imposed under US pressure. MORE THAN - THE LAST TIME OF THE EU EXTENDED SANCTIONS FOR HALF YEAR, AND OUR PUTIN - IMMEDIATELY FOR ONE AND A half. And by the way, in 2014, Medvedev told farmers that sanctions would be in place until 2018. And Putin is extending our sanctions specifically until 2018. request
              The sanctions imposed by the West allow you to do several things - introduce counter sanctions, protecting your market without violating WTO rules, import substitution and split between the US and European business. Plus, the influence of Western capital on the Russian economy is weakening. hi
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus 15 January 2017 14: 20
                0
                Quote: g1v2
                If the leadership of the Russian Federation sought to lift the sanctions, they would have been lifted back in 2015.

                Unfortunately, the Russian economy is closely integrated into the economy of the capitalist world, while not being its center or core.
                For example, the largest Russian state bank Sberbank does not work on its own territory in Russia (in the Crimea). The reason is the fear of sanctions.
                Where do capital flows from Russia? to the West. Where do the owners of large campaigns live? Ibid. So underestimate the sanctions of the West and their influence on our oligarchs do not have to.
                As for Tsipras, etc. it’s not so easy to agree with them, they would be happy to lift the sanctions, but weak European countries, like Greece, simply cannot go against the will of Germany, and it, in turn, is against the will of the United States.
                Quote: g1v2
                The sanctions imposed by the West allow you to do several things - introduce counter sanctions, protecting your market without violating WTO rules, import substitution and split between the US and European business. Plus, the influence of Western capital on the Russian economy is weakening.

                But I agree with this. In general, for Russia, any distancing (and even more disconnecting) from the global capital market is useful. That is, in this case, there would be no happiness, but misfortune would help.
                But you need to distinguish between the interests of Russia as a state as a whole and the interests of big business and bureaucracy. They do not always coincide.
                PS Well, if I doubt in vain and the Russian leadership has enough determination to join South Ossetia, then I will be the first to rejoice and congratulate you. drinks
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 15 January 2017 15: 56
                  +1
                  It will not work to distance from the capry. The market is becoming more and more global. And to squeeze within the borders of your country is not an option - maybe the rest of the world will remain competitors. That means that we will continue to have 3-4 percent of global GDP. Well - even if we grow up to 5 years in 10 years. But this is still not the same. Many industries are unprofitable without exporting their products abroad, which means it will be difficult for them to develop. request
                  But it’s impossible to close it, but pushing our products abroad by inserting sticks to import as much as possible is real. For example, in cx ours have mastered this perfectly. Like what - immediately in someone else’s products a discrepancy in sanitary standards is found or the documents are not so executed. In general, such small, but useful tricks. request
                  Well, as for Sberbank, everything is so simple. Gref considers the benefits of opening branches in the Crimea and subtracts losses from closing or restrictions on branches in Ukraine and the West. The benefit from opening is noticeably less than losses, because while this is so, there will not be a formal branch in the Crimea. But any daughter is quite possible.
                  Well, under the sanctions against our oligarchs, everything is true. The West introduced them for this. Only the GDP immediately fussed and broke through the Rotenberg law. That is, if you have suffered due to the fact that you work for the state, then you will be compensated for the losses. With this, he immediately knocked out a serious trump card from the enemy. True, there is one trick. You will be reimbursed if you prove that it is yours. lol Your property was confiscated, but it was recorded on an offshore company. belay Well, sorry bro. It was necessary to record on yourself - then everyone would have reimbursed, and so .... request
                  1. Odysseus
                    Odysseus 15 January 2017 18: 14
                    +1
                    Quote: g1v2
                    It will not work to distance from the capry. The market is becoming more and more global. And to squeeze within the borders of your country is not an option - maybe the rest of the world will remain competitors.

                    There is a little confusion. There is, of course, no international circulation of goods from this market, and the USSR was not closed from it.
                    And there is precisely capitalist capital market with a focus on the financial center in the United States. This is where you need to close.
                  2. zvereok
                    zvereok 15 January 2017 20: 33
                    0
                    Subtleties and various commas in laws work against ordinary citizens. Against those close to power, the law is that drawbar. And offshore companies will forgive and provide a tax certificate, which my grandmother left as an inheritance.
            2. Black Colonel
              Black Colonel 18 January 2017 08: 09
              0
              Odysseus
              Personally, I am entirely for the entry of South Ossetia, but I’m not sure that the government will have enough resolve for this.
              If the task is set, then there will be enough determination and wisdom. In any case, the current government. An example is the elegant prevention of US aggression against Syria in 2013, when Russia's positions in the BV were not strong.
          3. Lelek
            Lelek 14 January 2017 12: 39
            +5
            Quote: g1v2
            Not just smells, essentially joining and preparing.


            Let's call it that - not annexation, but the reunification of one people (SO and South Ossetia), divided by the wrong actions of the previous governments. And there is no need to be afraid of this and look around "what will Princess Marya Alekseevna say". The Caucasus is a zone of Russian interests that must be defended by all legal methods. yes
        4. Douel
          Douel 14 January 2017 12: 27
          +3
          In the 17th year, a referendum on the entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation.
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 15 January 2017 20: 35
            0
            Trump gain, to play with Trampushkoy.
        5. commbatant
          commbatant 14 January 2017 23: 42
          0
          STARPER Today, 10:03 ↑ New
          Quote: Observer 33
          Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of!

          Joining Russia smacks of ...))) Beautiful nature there ....


          But what about the experience of the "empirialists"? For example, the joint American-Korean command in the Republic of Kazakhstan, according to the current agreement, during the threatened period during the war, the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan are transferred under the American command.
          That there, too, the Republic of Kazakhstan became 51 states or the second District of Columbia ...
          It's just that our senior comrades, in order to avoid theft in the "units and formations of the South Ossetian Armed Forces," decided to undermine this whole orgy and include the South Ossetian Armed Forces in our troops on the territory of the republic ...
      2. Nick
        Nick 14 January 2017 11: 07
        0
        Quote: Observer 33
        Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of!

        Do you mean someone specific or are you just scoffing?
        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 14 January 2017 18: 58
          0
          In every joke, only a fraction of the joke ...
          Quote: Nick
          Quote: Observer 33
          Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of!

          Do you mean someone specific or are you just scoffing?
    2. Teberii
      Teberii 14 January 2017 10: 03
      +3
      The time of cavalry attacks with checkers on the head has already passed. Methodically, step by step, but it is not worth teasing our "friends".
    3. AlexTires
      AlexTires 14 January 2017 10: 54
      +5
      Quote: STARPER
      Liberasts will now howl about the creeping aggression of Russia ...

      I think the liberals are aware that a referendum on joining Russia is planned in South Ossetia, in the 17th year, so they will have a more "fried" topic of what to do in guano ...
    4. Stanislas
      Stanislas 14 January 2017 11: 18
      +2
      Quote: STARPER
      Liberasts will now howl about Russia's creeping aggression
      And if we give land, they will howl that we give slowly and little, you will not please them.
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 14 January 2017 11: 46
      +9
      Back in 2014 he said that there would be a referendum on joining Russia! It also awaits us in the DPR.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 14 January 2017 12: 03
        +4
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Back in 2014 he said that there would be a referendum on joining Russia! It also awaits us in the DPR.

        It is impossible while the border near Donetsk, in addition to political problems, it is necessary to push the Maidanites, ideally, to the administrative border of the region.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 14 January 2017 12: 13
          +2
          Perhaps they will agree on the release to the old borders of the regions, but we commit ourselves not to go further to other regions of Ukraine. We have two referenda, or one with two points, and that's it.
          1. teder
            teder 14 January 2017 12: 22
            0
            Quote: Sith Lord
            Perhaps they will agree on the liberation to the old borders of the regions, but we commit ourselves not to go further to other regions of Ukraine.

            Sergey, do Russians live in other areas? Or is the artificial division into regions what stops the liberation of Russian sufferers throughout Ukraine?
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 14 January 2017 13: 11
              +5
              People live there, too, Russian, but the body of the movement began in Kharkov, Odessa, Zaporozhye and Donetsk and Lugansk.
              They make us exemplary so that residents of the rest of Ukraine look and want to live as well.
              1. teder
                teder 14 January 2017 13: 15
                +1
                Quote: Sith Lord
                People live there, too, Russian, but the body of the movement began in Kharkov, Odessa, Zaporozhye and Donetsk and Lugansk.

                but if you have real power, armed forces - why do you write that
                Quote: Sith Lord
                but we commit ourselves not to go further to other regions of Ukraine

                ?????? Do you distinguish between zones of influence and Ukrainian rule? Do you commit to it?
                Quote: Sith Lord
                They make us exemplary

                who makes you them?
                And what is this expressed in?
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 14 January 2017 13: 27
                  +11
                  Because this is politics, there are international treaties. Yes, we have the strength and in the case of a lot of blood, Russia will help, as Ossetia helped. But most likely there will be a contract to give us completely the area, but we will not go anywhere further that's all.

                  As for your question, and as Minsk was the first to conclude, Ukraine was obliged not to conduct hostilities and even more so not to attempt to advance and occupy territories, just as we were also obliged not to conduct hostilities.

                  Russia with the budget money of Russia makes us exemplary, in principle, schools, hospitals, boiler rooms, roads are already being repaired. The Ministry of Internal Affairs handed over to us 50 patrol cars of the Ministry of Emergencies of Russia for 1 billion 800 million vehicles, equipment and uniforms, the Ministry of Agriculture handed over 40 combines and so on ..
                  1. teder
                    teder 14 January 2017 13: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: Sith Lord
                    Because this is politics, there are international treaties

                    The agreement between whom and by whom? As far as I remember, the DPR and LPR are not subjects of international law.
                    Quote: Sith Lord
                    Yes, we have the strength and in the case of a lot of blood, Russia will help, as Ossetia helped. But most likely there will be a contract to give us completely the area

                    Who will give them to you? Ukraine? belay

                    Quote: Sith Lord
                    and we’re not going anywhere else, that's all.

                    Yes, and so you do not go anywhere.
                    Quote: Sith Lord
                    Russia on the budget money of Russia make us exemplary

                    It sounds good how you are made exemplary with our money (I would prefer to hear that you yourself are becoming a role model for all of Ukraine).
                    Do us negative
                    That is your whole Krainsky approach, you are no different from them.
                    Russia is sitting under sanctions because of you, so many people have died, so much money donated, so many refugees accepted.
                    And you one thing --- we are doing --- and what yourself?
                    For some reason I wanted to hear from you
                    _ We will make our country so that everyone would envy.
                    We and only we.
                    And you --- MAKE US negative
                    1. Lord of the Sith
                      Lord of the Sith 14 January 2017 14: 15
                      +6
                      What is the krainsky approach? We have an industry because of the war, so now Russia is helping and we are doing. Before the war, we brought budget revenues of $ 14 billion.

                      Anyway, the form of your conversation resembles a troll.
                      1. teder
                        teder 14 January 2017 14: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Sith Lord
                        What is the krainsky approach?

                        I have already explained my point of view - PLEASE US - You yourself said
                        Quote: Sith Lord
                        We have industry because of the war,

                        And where do people work? But the enterprises of Akhmetov’s work, and the mines?
                        Quote: Sith Lord
                        Before the war, we brought budget revenues of $ 14 billion.

                        You argued that the Donbass is a self-sufficient region that feeds all of Ukraine - and now it turns out that you can’t live without Ukraine and the whole industry is worth it?
                        I do not see the logic.
                        Tell me, according to information in the press, the enterprises of Akhmetov and Shakhty continue to pay taxes to Ukraine.
                        If so, then explain what the hell we should restore and support you with Russian money - if you continue to pay taxes to Ukraine?
                        Interesting figures were reported by the State Fiscal Service of Ukraine, where all taxes of this country are collected. It turns out that since the beginning of the so-called “anti-terrorist operation” (or, more simply, the civil war) in the Donbass, declared by Kiev in April 2014, enterprises of the self-proclaimed republics paid as much as 36,8 billion hryvnias to the budget of Ukraine (this is about $ 1,5 billion) in taxes. How can this be? After all, it turns out that the residents of Donbass themselves pay for the shells that fly into their homes. And the most interesting thing is that much less money goes into the local budgets of the DPR-LPR.

                        .

                        Quote: Sith Lord
                        Anyway, the form of your conversation resembles a troll

                        This is when not very convenient questions are asked?
              2. kib72
                kib72 14 January 2017 20: 14
                +1
                The key word is to want. Whoever wants, he got (Crimea), who doubted (DNR, LC) will get. Odessa, Zaporozhye and everyone else will have to work. Work Brothers. We will help.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 14 January 2017 12: 43
          +1
          Quote: Odyssey
          it is necessary to push the Maidanites, ideally, to the administrative border of the region.


          I’ve been saying this for two years. Bravo. good
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 14 January 2017 13: 32
            0
            Quote: Lelek
            I’ve been saying this for two years. Bravo.

            Thank you, of course, but in my opinion this is self-evident. You can’t attach the DNI if the Maydan’s are actually on the outskirts of Donetsk. The question is how to get them out of there? The militias do not have enough strength for this; they themselves will not leave until the US team arrives.
            That is, you need to either try to negotiate with Trump, or direct help from our army.
      2. OLD FART
        OLD FART 14 January 2017 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Back in 2014 he said that there would be a referendum on joining Russia! It also awaits us in the DPR.

        Think Right Sith ...! But blood will have to be shed before this happens ... Bandera, just do not give up ..!

        The valtsmans rule Ukraine .. and until everyone takes them out (right up to the chernozem ..) they calm down ...
        1. cap
          cap 14 January 2017 12: 46
          +1
          Quote: STARPER
          Think Right Sith ...! But blood will have to be shed before this happens ... Bandera, just do not give up ..!


          Vitaliy, they won’t be given up, they’ve spent so much money, and the villagers bought tea for the villagers. It’s definitely military action.
          1. OLD FART
            OLD FART 14 January 2017 12: 59
            +2
            Quote: cap
            Quote: STARPER
            Think Right Sith ...! But blood will have to be shed before this happens ... Bandera, just do not give up ..!

            Vitaliy, they won’t be given up, they’ve spent so much money, and the villagers bought tea for the villagers. It’s definitely military action.

            The option is simply to squeeze them out, without blood (almost) ...... The war between Ukraine and Russia is the dream of many in the west and east .. This cannot be allowed! hi You need to hold on guys, Russia will not leave you unambiguously ..

            If anything, let’s break the gap and spit on everything ...!
            1. Deniska999
              Deniska999 14 January 2017 13: 06
              0
              If anything, let’s break the gap and spit on everything ...!

              Are you in the front row?
              1. OLD FART
                OLD FART 14 January 2017 14: 21
                +1
                Quote: Deniska999
                If anything, let’s break the gap and spit on everything ...!

                Are you in the front row?

                Of course not ..... (although I have nothing to lose) And this is how I usually act. When the liberals advance in orderly rows laughing !

                But seriously, many boys are caught (in the Donbass they are torn ..)
            2. kib72
              kib72 14 January 2017 20: 20
              0
              Glory and Eternal Memory
      3. padded jacket
        padded jacket 14 January 2017 12: 59
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        It also awaits us in the DPR.

        I think it will inevitably happen and the DNI and LC will become part of Russia and finally connect with their brothers as Crimea had previously done. And then it will make Ukraine, or most likely its part, which has still remained sane and has not come under the influence of different Valtsman Groysman and the rest of the Yarosh.
        Although, in my opinion, this will probably happen through the great war and further confrontation of our country with the EU and the USA.
      4. zvereok
        zvereok 15 January 2017 20: 39
        0
        If so, it’s good, but it’s a pity, without a land route to the Crimea. And indeed, without Odessa and other areas.
    6. Monarchist
      Monarchist 14 January 2017 11: 59
      0
      Starper, is it the first time for you to hear the howling of the libraists? Especially if the "senior comrades" approved, and the current baboon is only occupations that hait Russia
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 14 January 2017 14: 53
        0
        Quote: Monarchist
        Starper, is it the first time for you to hear the howling of the libraists? Especially if the "senior comrades" approved, and the current baboon is only occupations that hait Russia

        I do not quite understand.....
  2. kouldoom
    kouldoom 14 January 2017 09: 55
    +2
    When everything settles down, you can safely take them into the composition.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 January 2017 10: 11
      +5
      When will it settle down? Well, when Georgia will be taken into Russia .. only then. wassat crying
      Quote: kouldoom
      When everything settles down, you can safely take them into the composition.
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 14 January 2017 10: 14
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        When will it settle down? Well, when Georgia will be taken into Russia .. only then. wassat crying
        Quote: kouldoom
        When everything settles down, you can safely take them into the composition.

        Has Georgia long become a serious foreign policy player? Or, in general, became ..?
      2. Smog
        Smog 14 January 2017 10: 30
        +10
        When will it settle down? Well, when will Georgia be taken into Russia ..


        Do you really want to buy a "car" Colchis ???? laughing and drink Borjomi?
        Drink Narzan, Essentuki and everything will settle down .. drinks
        1. 210ox
          210ox 14 January 2017 10: 43
          +1
          Personally, I don’t want to ... Especially since the Kutaisi plant, as well as its parent company, ZiLu kirdyk .. And you do not carefully read the comments. Or do not understand the meaning. For the slow-witted, Georgia will never accept the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. This is a fact. Whether we want it or not. About the size of this player in the international arena .. They are supported by more powerful countries, and this is also a fact. And how they live there and what they do is personally to the lantern. hi
          Quote: Smog
          When will it settle down? Well, when will Georgia be taken into Russia ..


          Do you really want to buy a "car" Colchis ???? laughing and drink Borjomi?
          Drink Narzan, Essentuki and everything will settle down .. drinks
          1. Smog
            Smog 14 January 2017 11: 00
            +8
            Georgia will never reconcile with the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

            So kuev will also never accept the loss of the Crimea. So what?
            Sprinkle ash over this head?
            . They are supported by stronger countries - and this is also a fact.
            Fact support. We saw this in 2008, and now we are observing it.
            But, you know, without these children of the mountains, who sell flowers at our bazaars, I’m somehow calmer.
            Yes, and to feed all these "breadwinners" of Russia, as in the days of the Union, something does not want to.
            Although the rest in the international youth camp Golden Fleece near Tbilisi I often remember. hi
            1. 210ox
              210ox 14 January 2017 11: 25
              0
              In my half of the country, the Georgians surrendered to the Turks, including Batumi. By the way, they rebuilt quite well there ..
              Quote: Smog
              Georgia will never reconcile with the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

              So kuev will also never accept the loss of the Crimea. So what?
              Sprinkle ash over this head?
              . They are supported by stronger countries - and this is also a fact.
              Fact support. We saw this in 2008, and now we are observing it.
              But, you know, without these children of the mountains, who sell flowers at our bazaars, I’m somehow calmer.
              Yes, and to feed all these "breadwinners" of Russia, as in the days of the Union, something does not want to.
              Although the rest in the international youth camp Golden Fleece near Tbilisi I often remember. hi
          2. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 14 January 2017 15: 14
            0
            Quote: 210ox
            Georgia will never put up with the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. This is a fact. Whether we want it or not. About the size of this player in the international arena .. They are supported by stronger countries, and this is also a fact.

            And what's next? laughing
            1. 210ox
              210ox 14 January 2017 18: 44
              +1
              Nothing .. So they will be irreconcilable .. wassat
              Quote: Observer 33
              Quote: 210ox
              Georgia will never put up with the loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. This is a fact. Whether we want it or not. About the size of this player in the international arena .. They are supported by stronger countries, and this is also a fact.

              And what's next? laughing
              1. 33 Watcher
                33 Watcher 14 January 2017 19: 07
                +1
                Quote: 210ox
                Never mind..

                Well, that’s the whole point. Nothing, it is nothing ...
          3. ando_bor
            ando_bor 15 January 2017 01: 07
            0
            Georgia is not an object of foreign policy, it is a subject, they are not supported, but they are an instrument in the foreign policy of other strong countries - this should be taken into account.
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 15 January 2017 14: 31
              0
              Quote: ando_bor
              Georgia is not an object of foreign policy, it is a subject, they are not supported, but they are an instrument in the foreign policy of other strong countries, from which we must proceed

              That's right, only you mixed up the object with the subject. Right-Georgia is not a subject of foreign policy, etc.
              The subject is one who acts independently, for example you, the Object is what they use, for example, a hammer with which you hammer nails.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 14 January 2017 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: kouldoom
      When everything settles down, you can safely take them into the composition.


      Itself does not settle down. We must act carefully, but decisively. The right of peoples to self-determination must be unshakable. Why can Germans be reunited, but not Ossetians?
  3. corporal
    corporal 14 January 2017 09: 59
    +8
    the leadership of the republic is seeking that upon entering the service in the Russian army recognized military ranks and length of service in the army of South Ossetia

    What is South Ossetia? And what the x..dictates the conditions?
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 14 January 2017 10: 05
      +2
      Quote: Corporal
      the leadership of the republic is seeking that upon entering the service in the Russian army recognized military ranks and length of service in the army of South Ossetia

      What is South Ossetia? And what the x..dictates the conditions?

      The main thing is to subordinate, and then we'll figure it out ... soldier
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 14 January 2017 12: 30
        +3
        Quote: STARPER
        The main thing is to subordinate, and then we'll figure it out ...

        and then our taxes will go to the bottomless thieves, Kumovskoy, clan South Ossetia .... they don’t need Russia, they’re federal ... we’ll give them a carrot right now, so that they’ll taste in full ... they’ll immediately yell about Russian occupation ... it's just our answer to NATO tanks in pshekii ....
      2. teder
        teder 14 January 2017 12: 36
        +2
        Quote: STARPER
        The main thing is to subordinate, and then we'll figure it out ...

    2. Incomprehensible
      Incomprehensible 14 January 2017 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: Corporal

      What is South Ossetia? And what the x..dictates the conditions?


      Do not evaluate events according to information intended for the press / public ...)
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 14 January 2017 11: 24
      0
      Quote: Corporal
      what x .. dictates the conditions?
      Firstly, it does not dictate, but exposes. They have a right. And secondly, would you like their combat officers to come to our recruits as orderlies?
      1. corporal
        corporal 14 January 2017 11: 40
        +1
        Quote: Stanislav
        does not dictate, but exposes

        Okay, what the fuck is it?

        Quote: Stanislav
        They have a right

        Yah? Who are they?

        Quote: Stanislav
        to our recruits batmen?

        Do our recruits have orderlies ?? belay ......... some live wassat
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 14 January 2017 11: 49
          +3
          Quote: Corporal
          Some live
          If in fact there is nothing to object, at least envy tongue
      2. The brightest
        The brightest 14 January 2017 16: 55
        +1
        Quote: Stanislav
        Quote: Corporal
        what x .. dictates the conditions?
        Firstly, it does not dictate, but exposes. They have a right. And secondly, would you like their combat officers to come to our recruits as orderlies?
        They fought, experience is excellent, and why should someone recognize their merits outside their structure? If it was a question of the region becoming part of Russia, then this makes sense, and since this is not the case, then any documents on this subject do not make sense.
        Here the situation itself is absurd, and therefore idiocy goes off scale. The army of the adjacent region becomes part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but the region remains, as it were, a region and that’s all.
        Partially Tskhinvali shakes the rights of the diaspora. Those who were given passports in 08, they pumped them to Russia to friendly camps, and there they were told with their trinkets: "Who are you, let's go bye."
        P.S., but I also do not see any other way out of this idiotic situation and as a whole I understand what they were striving for. And the region is as if by itself, but the army is already part of ... Okay, let's see what happens.
        1. kib72
          kib72 14 January 2017 20: 31
          +2
          Unlike you, they fought. Therefore, dear, you did not stand next to them!
        2. Stanislas
          Stanislas 14 January 2017 21: 59
          0
          Quote: Lightest
          If it was a question of the region becoming part of Russia, then this makes sense, and since it is not a question of
          We are not at the market. At one time, I think this will be discussed. Do you want to force Ossetians to trade military honor?
          1. The brightest
            The brightest 15 January 2017 06: 35
            +1
            Quote: Stanislav
            We are not at the market.

            C'mon, what a bargain they arranged, in my opinion that there is a bargain. Trade at full height!
        3. Stanislas
          Stanislas 15 January 2017 20: 18
          0
          Quote: Lightest
          why should someone recognize their merit outside their structure?
          I don’t know about anyone, but they have long been part of Russia and remained its allies. Theoretically, they could gain military experience fighting against Georgia against Abkhazia, but they fought for their freedom, not wanting to Europe and NATO. So, it turns out, and for us.
    4. kib72
      kib72 14 January 2017 20: 26
      +1
      She does not dictate the conditions (South Ossetia) She, as Motherland, Mother wants her children Warriors to get what they deserve, and not according to ranking.
  4. SerB60
    SerB60 14 January 2017 10: 00
    +13
    National military units are evil. Motivation will change and the whole unit will easily rebel. Recalls the times of the Civil War.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 14 January 2017 10: 09
      +2
      Quote: SerB60
      National military units are evil. Motivation will change and the whole unit will easily rebel. Recalls the times of the Civil War.

      Who serves in the Crimea? And where do Crimeans serve?
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 14 January 2017 10: 32
        +3
        Since 18 g I offer them to serve on the other peninsula-Kamchatsky.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 14 January 2017 12: 05
        +1
        Quote: Observer 33
        And where do Crimeans serve?
        Crimeans are not a nationality, but another principle of the formation of military formations - territorial - emerged here: to serve in their small homeland with their fellow countrymen. Better than ethnic (probably there were none). Probably the best in the sense of the formation of traditions, dynasties ... It is important here not to absolutize, if you live in the steppe, and the soul breaks into the sea, go to the Navy.
    2. Smog
      Smog 14 January 2017 10: 17
      +9
      Motivation will change and the whole unit will easily rebel.
      With the numerical strength of the South Ossetian armed forces in 1250 people and taking into account the fact that the entire population of South Ossetia is slightly more than 50 thousand people, then yes, if they rebel, then a "terrible" force,
      1. AUL
        AUL 14 January 2017 10: 35
        +7
        It’s not so simple. Kadyrov has his own national military formations. I remember that in the media he threatened to send a battalion of his abreks to Kondapoga when the Chechens were beaten (for business) there. And our guarantor said nothing, wiped himself off!
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 14 January 2017 11: 51
          +8
          Maybe enough already to spread nonsense? Kadyrovtsy are an official part of the power structures of the Russian Federation. The main part - is part of the Russian Guard, which is now subordinate to the appropriate structure - the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation. There is still part of the MO. By the way, the military police from Chechnya are now patrolling Aleppo in Syria.
          Regular stuffing and attempts to rock the situation in order to inflate problems in the Caucasus again are clearly financed from abroad. The fact that many "patriots" receive this money has long been beyond doubt. And they are ready for this money to beat up the daughter of Emelianenko, for example, in order to rock the confrontation and try to split the Russian Federation. As soon as I hear the broadcast of such stuffing, then I understand - either a person is an idio. or on the salary of "partners". am
          1. AUL
            AUL 14 January 2017 12: 07
            +3
            Regular stuffing and attempts to rock the situation in order to inflate problems in the Caucasus again are clearly financed from abroad. The fact that many "patriots" receive this money has long been beyond doubt. And they are ready for this money to beat up the daughter of Emelianenko, for example, in order to rock the confrontation and try to split the Russian Federation. As soon as I hear the broadcast of such stuffing, then I understand - either a person is an idio. or on the salary of "partners".

            And who is your salary, neidio. respected? Of course, you can call it stuffing, but I saw this performance on Kadyrov's television myself, and I think many have seen him! So, the fact that you have pasted the label "stuffing" does not cease to be a fact from this Kadyrov's statement!
            PS I didn’t touch Emelianenko’s daughter.
            PPS And I did not receive money for the stuffing. Either partners, bitches, threw, or the translation has not yet arrived! request
            1. kib72
              kib72 14 January 2017 20: 33
              +1
              you will get shaitan. You will receive both translation and all the rest.
              1. AUL
                AUL 15 January 2017 12: 39
                +1
                kib72, you will poke at strangers and threaten in your favorite beer house. This does not work here.
        2. Proud.
          Proud. 14 January 2017 11: 52
          +2
          Quote: AUL
          I remember that in the media he threatened to send a battalion of his abreks to Kondapoga when the Chechens were beaten (for business) there. And our guarantor said nothing, wiped himself off!

          To threaten does not mean to send ... And then, do not announce in the media that he (V.V.P.) did not say anything, does not mean that the President did not respond to such a statement.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 15 January 2017 07: 02
            0
            Quote: Be proud.
            that the President did not RESPOND to such a statement.

            Maybe he reacted on the phone, but he will not publicly arrange a "dressing down".
            1. AUL
              AUL 15 January 2017 12: 41
              +2
              So he got a spit in his face in public! So the answer must be given in public.
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 15 January 2017 12: 49
                +1
                This is not a scandal in a communal kitchen. Here you are, for example, if you get naughty on the street, you right there, among the people, will begin to beat the snout of your opponent, or will you take him round the corner?
      2. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 14 January 2017 11: 03
        0
        Quote: Smog
        With the numerical strength of the South Ossetian armed forces in 1250 people and taking into account the fact that the entire population of South Ossetia is slightly more than 50 thousand people, then yes, if they rebel, then a "terrible" force,

        If the stinks "rebel" you will not be able to get away from international organizations. The South Ossetian armed forces can be included in the RF Armed Forces as, for example, a separate battalion. They must serve in accordance with the regulations of the Russian army.
        1. Smog
          Smog 14 January 2017 11: 16
          +4
          The Armed Forces of South Ossetia can be included in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation as, for example, a separate battalion. They must serve in accordance with the charters of the Russian army.

          Since I understood from the article they are not against it. The only thing they want
          According to the minister, the leadership of the republic is trying to ensure that when entering the service in the Russian army, military ranks and seniority in the army of South Ossetia are recognized.

          No, it’s ridiculous if a thirty-year-old officer of the Armed Forces of South Ossetia will begin his new service in the Russian army with the rank of private and lose his seniority.
      3. commbatant
        commbatant 15 January 2017 01: 26
        0
        according to the laws of the military economy, the peacetime army should not exceed 1% of the population (otherwise the economy will collapse), respectively, South Ossetian armed forces should number no more than 500 people, with a population of South Ossetia of 50 thousand people.
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 14 January 2017 11: 39
      +1
      Quote: SerB60
      Recalls the times of the Civil War.
      And before the revolution there were, and in the domestic
      The formation of the national units of the Red Army began again in August 1941 by decision No. 383 of the State Defense Committee. During the war years, national units were formed in 11 union republics. In total, 66 national military formations were formed in the Red Army - 26 rifle and mountain rifle divisions, 22 cavalry divisions and 18 rifle brigades. Of this number, 37 national military units participated in hostilities on the fronts of World War II.
      1. SerB60
        SerB60 15 January 2017 12: 44
        +1
        Do not confuse the warm with the soft! In the days of the USSR, the Panfilov division from Kazakhstan was not Kazakh! This is a purely territorial term.
        1. commbatant
          commbatant 15 January 2017 13: 03
          0
          Quote: SerB60
          In the days of the USSR, the Panfilov division from Kazakhstan was not Kazakh! This is a purely territorial term.


          Panfilov Jivizia was located mainly on the territory of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan
          as part of the TurkVO.
          On July 11, 2011, on the eve of the 70th anniversary of its formation, the division was re-formed as the 8th guards motorized rifle Order of the Order of Lenin; Red Banner Order of the Suvorov Division named after Hero of the Soviet Union Major General I. Panfilov
          Currently deployed near Bishkek.
          1. SerB60
            SerB60 15 January 2017 13: 16
            0
            Wildly sorry. Confused Kyrgyzstan with Kazakhstan ...
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 15 January 2017 13: 30
              +1
              Quote: SerB60
              Wildly sorry. Confused Kyrgyzstan with Kazakhstan ...

              - there was a joke, from the time of the late Brezhnev:

              ... took the ambassador of Uruguay ... for the ambassador of Paraguay

              good
              1. commbatant
                commbatant 15 January 2017 13: 37
                0
                SerB60

                not completely wrong, because division management was in the Kazakh SSR
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                1. SerB60
                  SerB60 15 January 2017 14: 44
                  0
                  Yeah. Then, according to Stanislav, was it the Kyrgyz-Kazakh national division? They drove the Russians and other brooms ... Well, insanity is simply about creating national formations in the 41st year.
        2. Stanislas
          Stanislas 15 January 2017 20: 41
          0
          Quote: SerB60
          In the days of the USSR, the Panfilov division from Kazakhstan was not Kazakh! This is a purely territorial term.
          Are you making such a "conclusion" from Panfilovskaya alone? And the remaining 65 connections from 11 republics were also not national? And why shouldn't the Ossetian formation be interpreted in the same way? Territorial.
    4. The brightest
      The brightest 14 January 2017 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: SerB60
      National military units are evil. Motivation will change and the whole unit will easily rebel. Recalls the times of the Civil War.

      But how else to solve this idiotic situation, in the conditions that the region as a current remains - in itself. Everything stems from squeamishness in some places ... We would have held a referendum, attached and everything would have been decided by itself, but no ... So they turn the fur coat out.
  5. captain
    captain 14 January 2017 10: 25
    +4
    Our people, under the leadership of our Grand Dukes and Kings, have gathered vast lands. under the double-headed eagle. Huge casualties have been suffered. They have been gathering land for almost a thousand years. The national policy of the Bolsheviks led to the collapse of Russia in 70 years, almost a fifth of the lands lost more than half of the population, and unfortunately, this may not be the end of the consequences of Lenin's national policy.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 14 January 2017 10: 38
      +6
      Quote: captain
      The national policy of the Bolsheviks led to the collapse of Russia in 70 years, more than half of the population lost almost a fifth of the land, and unfortunately, this may not be the end of the consequences of Lenin's national policy.

      You're lying, comrade .... The tsarist empire was agrarian compared to the USSR, but it influenced world processes and yet ...
      Now again we are collecting all the lands under our wing ... Craps of dermocracy have been fed up, it’s time and measure to know! The process is not fast of course, as in the beginning of the 20th century and yet ... We are going in this direction!
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 14 January 2017 12: 56
      0
      Rotmister, I almost always agree with you. And now, I agree by 97%, but 3 percent disagree: unfortunately not all the great princes and the option was worried about the greatness of Russia, Peter 3, Anna Ioanovna, Yuri Danilovich and still had their interests above the state ones.
      If you think about it, then the Maydauns and many other "nationalist-democrats" are the fruits of "a well-thought-out Leninist nationality policy": the borders were drawn as my left heel wants, the result is Karabakh, etc.
    3. Caretaker
      Caretaker 14 January 2017 13: 08
      +1
      Quote: captain
      They collected land for almost a thousand years. The national policy of the Bolsheviks led to the collapse of Russia

      The short-sighted and inconsistent policy of the outgoing Romanovs led to the abdication of Nicholas 2, the collapse of the Empire and huge losses in the PM and the Civil Wars.

      The Soviet Union was destroyed from the inside "you know by whom." By the 80s, the immunity against the internal enemy was lost.

      Rotmister, which of the territories that were part of the Russian Empire but did not enter the USSR, do you consider Russia? To Poland? Finland?
      By the way, the Vyborg province was donated not by Lenin or Trotsky, but Alexander I, in 1811, as a gift to Finland. ,
      A significant part of the Vyborg province, but not the whole, was returned by the Soviet Union following the results of the Soviet-Finnish War and WWII.
      Yes, and the king of Poland granted the constitution before 1917.
      1. kib72
        kib72 14 January 2017 20: 37
        +1
        Yah! Well surprised. Didn't read books? Only Wikipedia is beautiful.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 15 January 2017 21: 18
        0
        Quote: Caretaker
        Rotmister, which of the territories that were part of the Russian Empire but did not enter the USSR, do you consider Russia? To Poland? Finland?
        So it can be said that few people consider Russia and the entire USSR. Maxim died, well ... with him? However, where you look is not clear.
    4. murriou
      murriou 14 January 2017 19: 52
      +1
      Quote: captain
      Our people, under the leadership of our Grand Dukes and Kings

      Grand Duke Alexei Alexandrovich, aka Alexis and "seven pounds of august meat", became famous for the fact that he devoted much more of his attention to ballerinas than to the Russian fleet entrusted to his cares.
      The state money entrusted to him was also spent on diamonds and other "small" gifts for ballerinas.

      The Russian people appreciated this "concern" in May 1905, calling Alexis "Prince of Tsushima" and publicly booing him at every public appearance of an elderly womanizer-embezzler. The defeat of the Russian fleet in Tsushima became unique on a global scale in terms of the ratio of losses.

      "Poor Alexis" - for him his nephew worried much more than for the thousands of Russian people who died in Tsushima, the prestige of the empire and the lost war.

      But the lesson did not go to good. The Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich similarly patronized Russian artillery and again ballerinas, especially Matilda Kshesinskaya, and he patronized her along with his relatives, including His Imperial Pigment, the nicotine of the latter.
      The results were also relevant.

      That was the great leadership of the great people.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 15 January 2017 21: 35
        0
        Quote: murriou
        Alexis and "seven pounds of august meat", became famous for giving ballerinas much more of his attention than the Russian fleet entrusted to his cares.
        And you all criticize Anatoly for his craving for beauty laughing
        1. murriou
          murriou 16 January 2017 00: 41
          0
          While it seemed to everyone that everything was fine with the army and navy, everyone did not care about the pranks of the tsar’s relatives with the ballerinas.

          But when it became impossible to thwart the shameful failure of Russia in the RYAV - it was then that the views on "love of beauty" changed at the expense of defense articles of the state budget.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 16 January 2017 10: 49
            0
            Quote: murriou
            While it seemed to everyone that everything was fine with the army and navy, everyone did not care about the pranks of the tsar’s relatives with the ballerinas.
            This is because there was no Orthodox (normal, if you like) tsar. The one who was - renounced: merged some children - the people, perhaps to save others, "real", but lost everything. A normal tsar should have a service that truthfully (with his head) answers any question like, "what do the people say about ...". If I were, I would know that they are talking about a lover of ballerinas in the navy, and I would have shot him to the end. Well, I would have demoted, stripped of the title.
    5. murriou
      murriou 14 January 2017 19: 58
      +2
      Quote: captain
      National policy of the Bolsheviks led to the collapse of Russia in 70 years

      Lying, as usual.

      The collapse of the USSR was carried out not by the Bolsheviks, but by the shit.

      Nationalities and national problems were not created by the Bolsheviks, but inherited from the tsars.

      The collapse of the Russian Empire was begun not by the Bolsheviks, but by the Provisional Government.

      With the emergence and during the existence of the USSR, the return of our lands took place, and not their loss.
      1. SerB60
        SerB60 15 January 2017 12: 50
        0
        The biggest minus to the Bolsheviks, precisely for the fragmentation of the country into nations - were provinces, and became republics with the right to exit. A bullet in the forehead of this pest ...
        1. murriou
          murriou 15 January 2017 14: 40
          +2
          As usual, the most authoritative judgments about the history of the USSR from those who are least familiar with it laughing
        2. Docent1984
          Docent1984 17 January 2017 11: 43
          0
          So what is the problem - charge and, in turn, in the mausoleum) For it is V.I. Lenin is the chief architect of such a system of territorial structure.
    6. murriou
      murriou 15 January 2017 08: 45
      +1
      Quote: captain
      gathered vast lands. under the double-headed eagle. ... Collected land for almost a thousand years.

      Oh yes, here's your lies too.
      You have such a talent, in one message you’ve let so much lies that you can’t get rid of it at once laughing

      How is it that you, such a loyal crystal-baker, are not aware that the house of the Romanov rule in Russia was only 305 years old from 1612 to 1917?
      And you are telling us about almost a thousand years under the double-headed eagle!

      And by the way, earlier you managed to lie about at least 1500 years of Russian statehood before the Bolsheviks, i.e. with no later than 517 A.D. .
      Since then, I still expect you to justify this * bold statement * laughing
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 January 2017 10: 28
    +6
    "We won't letso that our soldier, sergeant, officer with military experience, military wounds, having government awards and significant length of service, should be equated with the 18-year-old draftee of the Russian army. We respect our military personnel, we will continue to seek recognition of their merits ”,

    If you are eager to become part of the Russian army, then you need to express yourself more diplomatically. And it turns out, take us, but we won’t allow ... Moreover, this issue was previously discussed and probably in favor of the military of South Ossetia.
  7. antivirus
    antivirus 14 January 2017 10: 30
    +4
    serve the South Ossetians in Taimyr or in Vorkuta. This is the key to integration in the Russian Federation.
  8. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 14 January 2017 10: 33
    +6
    The assimilation of the army of other territorial units is, of course, good.
    But, vague doubts torment me:
    1. Manageability of these national units during the non-threatening period of South Ossetia. (Their desire to serve in other regions important to Russia, where suddenly it smelled of fried).
    2. Won't we (the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation), after the entry into force of the relevant agreements, enter into the ranks of the South Ossetia units consisting entirely of colonels (or even generals), irrespective of their service life. (Given the ability of students in the North Caucasus region to pass the exam in Russian for 100, I won’t be surprised if colonels with a term of service of one year or less and three order-bearing ones appear). I’m exaggerating this, of course, but I suspect that the Ossetian officer ranks may jump 1-2 steps in 0,5 years.
    1. Caretaker
      Caretaker 14 January 2017 13: 19
      +1
      Maintaining officer ranks is common practice.
      Probably, this is mainly about the salaries of ordinary and sergeants. Possibly, assignment to all military personnel of the South Ossetia of the status of a participant in hostilities, etc.
    2. kib72
      kib72 14 January 2017 20: 43
      0
      Dear, all the foam will come up and retire. The real warriors will remain. The Osetins are real Warriors.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 14 January 2017 21: 07
        +1
        Quote: kib72
        Dear, all the foam will come up and retire. The real warriors will remain. The Osetins are real Warriors.

        Igor! I hesitate to ask: Are you Ossetian? Or I will ask the question in another way: the region of your residence SK?
  9. midshipman
    midshipman 14 January 2017 10: 42
    +3
    Great news. I have the honor.
  10. Kenneth
    Kenneth 14 January 2017 10: 43
    +1
    They were completely over there
  11. AlexTires
    AlexTires 14 January 2017 10: 51
    +1
    Well, we are waiting for the referendum, and there Ossetia itself will finally become one ....
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 14 January 2017 11: 18
      +1
      More parasites. Trafficking Smuggling to Georgia
      1. AlexTires
        AlexTires 14 January 2017 11: 26
        0
        oh well, almost all of them have been citizens of the Russian Federation for a long time, and they receive our pensions, plus any contributions from our economy that come from us. so do not agree
  12. DV69
    DV69 14 January 2017 10: 52
    +4
    The first step towards the unification of South and North Ossetia has been taken.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 14 January 2017 11: 06
      0
      Quote: DV69
      The first step towards the unification of South and North Ossetia has been taken.

      There, by the way, cheap houses and apartments were bought up by some far-sighted "comrades" (when they were shooting there)))) ... The queue for Georgia will weld well, they have quieted down recently ... They were fed up with everything they were promised ... crying

      A debriefing of the "flights" will be required ... angry
  13. vell.65
    vell.65 14 January 2017 10: 58
    0
    Quote: Teberii
    Methodically step by step, but teasing our "friends" is not worth it.

    And "our friends" do not hesitate to introduce armored vehicles into Poland and the Baltic states_normally ?!
  14. Gronsky
    Gronsky 14 January 2017 11: 38
    +7
    Quote: Stanislav
    And secondly, would you like their combat officers to come to our recruits as orderlies?

    Of course not, but the tone itself, to say the least, is surprising.
    "We won't let anyone ..." As if someone is pulling them by the legs.
    Well, do not allow and do not - protect, rebuild and tidy up your homeland yourself. without Russians.
    In general, it seems to me that the Ossetians did not quite realize what Russia did for them in 2008, and indeed for all subsequent years. No special gratitude on their part is observed.
    Those. It is believed that the Russians SHOULD protect, pump money into the restoration, to help refugees and victims, while they disperse around Russia and cook grandmothers on the trade in fake vodka and you see, "do not allow" someone to do something. In their place, pride must be shoved, in order to avoid ogrednogo hit in a bad story.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 14 January 2017 22: 19
      0
      Quote: Gronsky
      Well, do not allow and do not - protect, rebuild and tidy up your homeland yourself. without Russians.
      A strange reaction when it comes to politics. You do not need this, but in the Moscow Region and the General Staff, perhaps they think differently. Who is right time will tell, but I think you are wrong.
  15. Chaos
    Chaos 14 January 2017 11: 54
    +2
    This is again the cost, Chechnya is at a standstill in Russia, now it is also to equip Ossetia. Something does not please me such a policy. I want a two-story cottage in the country and an increase in retirement.
  16. pts-m
    pts-m 14 January 2017 11: 55
    0
    Yes, everything is normal. There are “Senegalese arrows” in France and they don’t blow a mustache. What difference does it make to whom the loot is paid, if only to fulfill their duties.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 14 January 2017 12: 37
      +1
      Quote: PTS-m
      Yes, everything is normal. There are “Senegalese arrows” in France and they don’t blow a mustache. What difference does it make to whom the loot is paid, if only to fulfill their duties.

      We are not France ... We will build them as expected! Freebies will not be unambiguous ... I think it will reach the shooting ... There will definitely not be any Makhnovism! soldier Enough already ... It's time to put things in order!
      Swan immediately remembered ... (he got into politics and immediately failed ...) ..
      1. kib72
        kib72 14 January 2017 20: 48
        +2
        Holy swan, there were not many like him. Officer "I have the honor." Respect!
        1. taypan
          taypan 14 January 2017 21: 06
          0
          kib72. today 20: 48. Swan, CHEAP populist. By the way, there were two brothers. One then dug in in neighboring Khakassia. And this one, in the Krasnoyarsk Territory. And both profited well here. In the Territory, at the mention of the Swan, you can spit in I often drive along M-54, where there is a chapel at the exit of the "shelf", i.e. the avalanche gallery, where this ... Swan, God punished Khasavyurt. And at the Swan and Starper, the same slogans. Maybe Starper, this is Junior Swan?
  17. Monarchist
    Monarchist 14 January 2017 12: 25
    0
    Vika now looked: 1250 people, 2 rifle and one motorized rifle battalions, the old T55, T72 will need to be changed to modernized ones.
    I think that there are few really fired soldiers and officers there, but in some ways they will be higher than our boys.
  18. Monarchist
    Monarchist 14 January 2017 12: 30
    0
    Quote: Chaos
    This is again the cost, Chechnya is at a standstill in Russia, now it is also to equip Ossetia. Something does not please me such a policy. I want a two-story cottage in the country and an increase in retirement.

    I also want what, but I am silent. If we now begin to list what we wanted, then .... The total budget of the Moscow Region may not be enough
  19. infantry76
    infantry76 14 January 2017 12: 31
    +5
    Something is incomprehensible to me! Do we have an agreement with South Ossetia on its joining Russia? In my understanding, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are the property of our state. And what side, all of a sudden, does the army of South Ossetia become part of our RF Armed Forces, and even with such claims? And the example of Chechnya in this case does not fit, because Chechnya has always been part of our state, and South Ossetia has been part of Georgia. Such a statement of the question is possible only after the signing of an agreement on the entry of South Ossetia into the Russian Federation and its merger with North Ossetia-Alania. IMHO! I have the honor! soldier
  20. Nymp
    Nymp 14 January 2017 12: 42
    +8
    Wow! So it would be with the army of Donbass militias. Rather, they were militias in 2014. Now it is the military army of New Russia! Take her to the Armed Forces of Russia!
    1. Iaaa
      Iaaa 14 January 2017 17: 28
      +6
      Quote: Nymp
      Wow! So it would be with the army of Donbass militias. Rather, they were militias in 2014. Now it is the military army of New Russia! Take her to the Armed Forces of Russia!

      So Pedro from such news will immediately stop drinking and run away on foot to the promised land
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 14 January 2017 22: 26
      0
      Quote: Nymp
      combat army of New Russia! Take her to the Armed Forces of Russia!
      First you need to recognize the republic / s.
  21. Thompson
    Thompson 14 January 2017 15: 46
    +1
    Sometimes you read comments and you begin to understand that we have no less pan-legcoles than in the non-custodial one. It’s just not their time, so they don’t appear too much! But they give out their words.
  22. sgazeev
    sgazeev 14 January 2017 17: 54
    0
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: Observer 33
    Nobel, for the "cause of peace" smacks of!

    Joining Russia smacks of ...))) Beautiful nature there ....

    Everyone has Russian citizenship, I think there will be no brakes. The guys are fighting, and the northerners will be connected. drinks
  23. PValery53
    PValery53 14 January 2017 18: 38
    +2
    The unification of South Ossetia and North Ossetia into a single Ossetia and its entry into Russia is a natural step. And no cries of a united Europe and, especially, the USA, play NO role here. Once Russia has decided so, so be it !! -
    The historical process is unstoppable!
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 15 January 2017 04: 32
      0

      2
      PValery53 Yesterday, 18:38
      The unification of South Ossetia and North Ossetia into a single Ossetia and its entry into Russia is a natural step. And no cries of a united Europe and, especially, the USA, play NO role here. Once Russia has decided so, so be it !! -
      The historical process is unstoppable!


      At x ... and South Ossetia surrendered to us as part of the Russian Federation, they forgot how, when they allied in the Caucasus, they retired at the age of 40 and didn’t work anywhere, but were only registered?
      South Ossetia, the Republic of Armenia, Novorossia, Russia needs Russia as a buffer between NATO and the countries that NATO sympathize with and are ready to provide their territory for NATO troops.
      Now let's say "Ukrainians" will close the border with Poland and what are we going to do?
      We will re-equip, modernize, at whose expense the banquet, the budget is made up and so on in favor of the Moscow Region to the detriment of other articles (education, medicine, etc.).
      One deployed motorized rifle battalion BB to cover the capital and a security botanion for the protection of the Roki Tunnel and that’s all. The army in general does not need South Ossetia, our base is located there for this, otherwise all our money will go not for rearmament of the army of South Ossetia, but for the maintenance of the gift .... of civil servants in various headquarters of the Armed Forces of South Ossetia.
      The internal troops recruited for free employment are quite enough.
      Well, if there are a lot of violent ones, you can create parts of territorial defense (for example: the Baltic states and "daddy"), let them gather periodically for training camps and improve their skills, conduct exercises (fight against enemy RDGs, traffic control, evacuation of civilians from the border zone , preparation of the area for waterlogging in tank-hazardous areas, etc.)
      The purpose of the power block of the South Ossetia is to free the forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to solve the main tasks in combating the regular (possibly irregular) forces of the enemy (s).
  24. 113262a
    113262a 15 January 2017 01: 15
    +2
    If the units of the South Ossetian army will be part of the Russian Armed Forces, then, most likely, the process leaders will be guided by a model already worked out with Chechnya, “that is, we are not talking about recruiting recruits and then distributing them to Russia. No, they will form separate units on their territory, ”said the expert. This is not buzzing! It smacks of rake! Some kind of farm approach! Although, another DIKAYADIVIZIYA-maybe good! True, handling is in question!
  25. ando_bor
    ando_bor 15 January 2017 01: 16
    +2
    Our people
    FAREWELL OF THE SLAVANIA IN THE OSSETIAN LANGUAGE:
  26. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 15 January 2017 10: 36
    +1
    It’s time for the Ossetians to reunite. in Soviet times, they were divided by administrative decision, as they had given Crimea in their time. Let there be the Ossetian Republic within the Russian Federation.
  27. Ayratelinsion
    Ayratelinsion 15 January 2017 13: 41
    +1
    How funny The LDNR of Russia should make an exemplary one, South Ossetia too, and still have to accept its army under the conditions that goordian Ossetians expose. Maybe well, all of them and Russia to do exemplary? If they want, they themselves will come running, there are a lot of places, it will be scattered everywhere ...
  28. Gronsky
    Gronsky 15 January 2017 15: 49
    0
    Quote: Stanislav
    and in the Moscow Region and the General Staff, perhaps they think differently.

    It is only for this reason that the "proud" Ossetians are still tolerated. The buffer territory has not bothered anyone yet.
  29. OlegLex
    OlegLex 17 January 2017 21: 40
    0
    Well, that's good! now the Transnistrian Abkhazian and the DPR with Lugansk and you can look further on how to return to the borders of the USSR