The DPR militia told about the strength of the Russian helmet

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The VladDN blogger, who, according to him, serves in one of the law enforcement agencies of the Donetsk Republic, told at the Global Adventure forum how the Russian 6 XX NUMX helmet from the Ratnik outfit withstood a 47 mm bullet.

The DPR militia told about the strength of the Russian helmet




“A couple of days ago we are in positions (I don’t disclose the details, but the place is always heard, not one month ago) during a night shelling from the enemy, one of the fighters got a bullet in the head. From the experience of the test fire, I assume the caliber 7,62 on the incoming hole, ”the author writes.



"The bullet entered" nose ", back-right, slightly at an angle to the surface of the helmet, collapsed and defeated by fragments of the constituent elements that came out from the inside of the helmet," he said.



According to the blogger, "the fighter received an open head injury (there are chipped bones of the skull), but he remained alive."

“At the moment, the condition of the wounded is stable, is already moving, can sit on the bed, takes food on its own. However, the diction suffered, the brain area with speech centers was damaged. Doctors say it is fixable, should get better over time, ”he added.

VladDN notes that "at the moment the 6b47 helmet, according to its characteristics, is probably the best head protection in general combat that we can afford." At the same time, he emphasizes that there are no centralized supplies: “We buy equipment either by ourselves or with the help of voluntary assistants acting privately WITHOUT the support of the official authorities of the Russian Federation”.
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  1. +19
    14 January 2017 09: 11
    Not bad as our army DNI equip.
    1. +20
      14 January 2017 09: 22
      Quote: Deniska999
      Not bad as our army DNI equip.

      And not only helmets ...! soldier
      1. +6
        14 January 2017 09: 28
        What will her head be ... It's the same bone! God forbid of course! what
        Quote: STARPER
        Quote: Deniska999
        Not bad as our army DNI equip.

        And not only helmets ...! soldier
        1. +38
          14 January 2017 09: 44
          Quote: 210ox
          What will her head be ... It's the same bone! God forbid of course!

          Here the point is how the guys react to this ...))) Pliers wield and smile .. In the West, the soldiers would have fainted already (and in their mind they calculated how much insurance they would be paid for the injury ..))))
          1. +27
            14 January 2017 09: 47
            Vitaly, you are wrong. They have trained people, and not bad doctors in the departments. Yes, and well equipped. So they will cost, in any case, without rusty pliers.
            Quote: STARPER
            Quote: 210ox
            What will her head be ... It's the same bone! God forbid of course!

            Here the point is how the guys react to this ...))) Pliers wield and smile .. In the West, the soldiers would have fainted already (and in their mind they calculated how much insurance they would be paid for the injury ..))))
            1. +36
              14 January 2017 10: 42
              Wounded soldier - speedy recovery and return to duty.
              Helmet 6b47 - definitely cool! soldier
              1. +8
                14 January 2017 11: 08
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                Helmet 6б47 - definitely an offset!

                I am joining. However, I would like the helmet to have more protection area. It seems that the forehead, nape, temporal part are open. For example, the helmet of the Soviet image over the area closes more. Of course, then the weight will increase slightly, but I think it's not worth saving on safety
                1. +4
                  14 January 2017 17: 21
                  It is unclear why the helmet is so praised and said "survived" if the peasant was damaged by the speech center in the brain.
                  1. Alf
                    +18
                    14 January 2017 19: 54
                    Quote: crazyrom
                    It is unclear why the helmet is so praised and said "survived" if the peasant was damaged by the speech center in the brain.

                    Because in any other helmet there would be two openings - inlet and outlet.
                2. +5
                  14 January 2017 19: 16
                  Quote: elmi
                  Quote: bouncyhunter
                  Helmet 6б47 - definitely an offset!

                  ... However, I would like the helmet to have more protection area. It seems that the forehead, nape, temporal part are open. For example, the helmet of the Soviet image over the area closes more. Of course, then the weight will increase slightly, but I think it's not worth saving on safety

                  A more open "forehead" of the helmet is, in my opinion, an advantage in combat, especially in urban combat, in a fast and maneuverable at close range. In these conditions, a good overview is more important. You have to turn your head often and sharply and a helmet with a low "forehead" will slide down to the very eyebrows.
              2. 0
                20 January 2017 10: 44
                Wounded soldier - speedy recovery and return to duty.
                Is it really the first time you watched a video? Five years, as in an Internet spinning, if not more.
            2. +4
              14 January 2017 11: 26
              approximately every third soldier in the U.S. Army attended medical courses. this affects the supplement to the main salary.
            3. 0
              14 January 2017 12: 10
              Do not rave .....
          2. cap
            +5
            14 January 2017 11: 13
            Quote: STARPER
            In the West, the soldiers would have fainted already (and in their minds calculated how much insurance they would be paid for the wound ..))))


            A trivial wound in the eyebrow, without loss of sight ("Desert Storm" Captain of the reconnaissance company.) The dismissal of an officer with a pension of $ 1500. Talked with the "injured" veteran. Over a glass of tea. laughing in Russian.
          3. SSR
            +4
            14 January 2017 16: 17
            Quote: STARPER
            Quote: 210ox
            What will her head be ... It's the same bone! God forbid of course!

            Here the point is how the guys react to this ...))) Pliers wield and smile .. In the West, the soldiers would have fainted already (and in their mind they calculated how much insurance they would be paid for the injury ..))))

            and when injured in a bandana, an American soldier automatically loses insurance, an American soldier loses insurance if any element of personal protection was missing.
          4. 0
            20 January 2017 07: 12
            Watch the video from Afghanistan, so that you do not stink of cotton wool. There was a video, including how a soldier’s leg was torn off by a mine, and the rest remained in position, only the nearest soldier approached and busily began to put on a dressing bag, and a helicopter was called, which arrived 10 minutes later. So that’s where the help and evacuation of the wounded is well-placed, so is NATO.
            1. +1
              20 January 2017 21: 13
              Remained in position? And should they have run away together? The usual, standard situation in the war, you pass off as an outstanding feat of American soldiers? Cool.
    2. +22
      14 January 2017 09: 49
      Quote: Deniska999
      Not bad as our army DNI equip.

      Can we read?
      We purchase equipment either ourselves or with the help of voluntary assistants acting privately WITHOUT the support of the official authorities of the Russian Federation. ”

      Or stake out a comment? wink
      1. +9
        14 January 2017 10: 23
        Well, yes, in any store such equipment is sold ...
      2. +3
        14 January 2017 13: 37
        This is the question, where can I buy such a bronik?
    3. +26
      14 January 2017 10: 00
      Quote: Deniska999
      Not bad as our army DNI equip.

      Do you think so?
      But in the original source it says:
      I will add the "realities" of this war on the topic of the protective properties of modern Russian-made SIBZ. I will make a reservation right away that we do not have any centralized supplies. We buy the equipment either ourselves or with the help of volunteer assistants acting privately WITHOUT the support of the official authorities of the Russian Federation. They even hinder us - you cannot import batches through customs, you carried one helmet in your hand luggage for yourself, bronics can only be imported without armor plates. So it goes…(c) VladDn


      Just VO decided to show consciousness and edited the news. More precisely, partially published.
      1. +1
        14 January 2017 12: 05
        Quote: Mik13
        Just VO decided to show consciousness and edited the news. More precisely, partially published.

        You are DIRECT naive Chukchi loader. Of course, the VSN servant should say otherwise he will trample him immediately from the army, there are plenty of people who want him.
      2. +1
        14 January 2017 14: 14
        full article address, pliz
        1. +1
          14 January 2017 18: 19
          At the same time, our helmet took a photo, the one into which a bullet from Glock-15 caliber 17x9 flew in from 19 meters

          https://glav.su/members/11992/
    4. +9
      14 January 2017 10: 43
      Quote: Deniska999
      Not bad as our army DNI equip.

      ---------
      who are ours? who are they if yours?
      Do you have any data on who and how much they delivered to the Donbass?
      ---
      I don’t have such data ...
      ----
      that’s why all sorts of different rumors creep .... gossip for the Western clickers from the media, and they’re glad your information
      ------
      So the question is, who are they yours?
      1. +1
        14 January 2017 11: 32
        Do you have any data on who and how much they delivered to the Donbass?
        ---
        I don’t have such data ...

        And who will give such data to you and everyone else? It is at least incompetent to deny that there are no MO contacts with LDNR.
        1. +2
          14 January 2017 15: 30
          Quote: krops777
          It is at least incompetent to deny that there are no MO contacts with LDNR.

          ---
          and what are you competent?
        2. +1
          14 January 2017 17: 27
          Quote: krops777
          It is at least incompetent to deny that there are no MO contacts with LDNR.

          Well, yes, we are also part of the Minsky monitoring group. So yes, we are in contact, even with Ukraine.
    5. 0
      14 January 2017 11: 33
      Quote: Deniska999
      Not bad as our army DNI equip.

      Well, the quantity of the enemy, you need to contrast the quality of weapons and equipment.
    6. 0
      14 January 2017 12: 12
      Our??? do not confuse!
      1. +2
        14 January 2017 13: 33
        Our, our, Russian people.
    7. +1
      14 January 2017 13: 32
      We need to know ours (and nobody forbids helping)
      http://spasidonbass.ru/
      1. 0
        14 January 2017 18: 03
        Quote: DenZ
        We need to know ours (and nobody forbids helping)
        http://spasidonbass.ru/

        ----
        and who said no ....
        but do not yell about it ... but put it quietly and without dust ...
        1. 0
          16 January 2017 12: 21
          Quote: UralChel
          but do not yell about it ... but put it quietly and without dust ...

          Countryman, but no one screams. It seemed to you. Everything is quite neat. And who needs (and who wanted to know) everyone knows for a long time.
    8. +5
      14 January 2017 17: 29
      Quote: Deniska999
      Not bad as our army DNI equip.
      . So for whatever money they want to outfit! Even you. Pay only!
      I understand quite the opposite, instead of helping the DNI fighters in every way, supporting them, ours earn on this! In the article in black and white:
      . At the same time, he emphasizes that no centralized supply exists: “We purchase equipment either ourselves or with the help of voluntary assistants acting privately WITHOUT the support of the official authorities of the Russian Federation”.
  2. +3
    14 January 2017 09: 12
    Probably the bullet was at the end.
    1. +8
      14 January 2017 09: 28
      Really, the guy was lucky ..
      1. +6
        14 January 2017 10: 32
        Really, the guy was lucky ..

        Health guy, long life, and all the best that you could wish for. It would be better for the Donetsk people to have such equipment that saves their lives. soldier
    2. +4
      14 January 2017 10: 59
      Quote: Vitalson
      Probably the bullet was at the end.

      -----
      I goof ... and ballistics here
      just to drop something ...
      at least they would bother to dig out the helmets more interesting ....
      and here ..... yes, the bullet must have flown away, well, all was exhausted ...
      at least sympathize ... the guy was lucky not bad ... God forbid he get on his feet and beat the bastards further ..
      1. +2
        14 January 2017 11: 30
        I see you are a great specialist in this matter if you think that the bullet was not at the end.
        let’s replace the ceramic armor plates in bulletproof vests with aramid fibers impregnated with epoxy that are similar in thickness to the material of the helmet. since soft armor packages will stop the bullet fragments later
        1. +1
          14 January 2017 15: 46
          Quote: jonhr
          I see you are a great specialist in this matter if you think that the bullet was not at the end.

          I didn’t think!
          and I don’t drink by the way, to go into such nonsense .... such as crashes, not crashes ... short of
    3. +6
      14 January 2017 14: 04
      Quote: Vitalson
      the bullet was out.

      At the end, i.e. losing energy? How did a bullet, having lost energy, pierced a helmet, and even "collapsed and was defeated by fragments of the constituent elements"? request
      1. +2
        14 January 2017 15: 42
        Quote: Vladimirets
        "collapsed and defeated with fragments of constituent elements"?

        --
        correctly! here such generals - specialists ... I wonder how much ... they’re hitting so much that you think ... and why are we living so badly?
        Papuans laugh at us
        Rating of countries in terms of living standards in 2016
        .... 90.Russia in Sri Lanka has a better standard of living
        1. +5
          14 January 2017 17: 59
          uteing of countries of the world in terms of living in 2016
          90 .....Russia in Sri Lanka has a better standard of living

          What kind of tsifirki do you have?
          1. 0
            16 January 2017 17: 08
            Quote: bk316
            uteing of countries of the world in terms of living in 2016
            90 .....Russia in Sri Lanka has a better standard of living

            What kind of tsifirki do you have?

            it is tsifirika №90 ... says that we are all, including you, are in such a well .... that the Papuans do not even look there ... they are ashamed to live like that
            by the way, sing the anthem for the night ... Papuans like
            they bastard looking at us idiots sitting oil in a pool with a nuclear bomb ...
            1. +4
              17 January 2017 19: 52
              then tsifirika No. 90 ... says that we all, including you, are in such a place .... that the Papuans don’t even look there ... they are ashamed to live like that

              Ahh, I thought so, my dear talkative all-weaver.
              You are using the Legatum Prosperity Index.
              Well, go to their website and see how the Russian Federation got such an assessment. It just turns out that the Russian Federation is at 141st place in terms of personal freedoms (out of 150), far after Ukraine, the Baltic countries, I'm not talking about such "democracies with a cut off" as the Middle East monarchies.
              Tell you where decent people (not squealing for salaries and not and dB) do such indexes?
              Got it? if you don’t buy a ticket, go to Khreshchatyk and say that you have your own opinion, which you have the right to, NU AND THERE ANYTHING ABOUT DPR and the right of nations to self-determination directly according to the UN Charter.
              Then someday write about what rating Ukraine and the Russian Federation have.
            2. +2
              17 January 2017 19: 59
              that we all and you, including, are in such a ..

              By the way there is only you and people like you. Me, we were never there and never will be.
              Do you know why?
              It’s just that someone is looking for an excuse, for his laziness and stupidity, he will surely find and usually it turns out that everyone in the same place and of course others are to blame for this. And someone is working on himself about the world around them, so they never get there, and if something happens, they never blame others and quickly get out of there.

              Well, yes they explain this in childhood, I'm afraid it's too late.
            3. +1
              19 January 2017 00: 09
              Well, another one - "Chief, the mustache is gone, tomorrow the plaster will be removed." Professor Rozhdestvensky advised not to read Soviet newspapers at breakfast, I don't know, maybe he was right, but what you should definitely not read is the ratings of dubious foreign agencies, or it wasn't enough for you to listen to the tales of "honest" media about how Russia "attacked" Georgia in 2008? About how our Air Force bombed all the cities in Syria? Or do you like such fairy tales, is it yours, like a balm on a wound? Well then read on. to each his own.
    4. SSR
      +1
      14 January 2017 16: 19
      Quote: Vitalson
      Probably the bullet was at the end.

      just got at an angle. Really lucky guy.
  3. +3
    14 January 2017 09: 13
    What is not clear? What distance, what bullet? AKM from 50 meters rails neck from a narrow gauge pierces a bullet with a steel core. And this is 30mm steel.
    1. Fox
      +12
      14 January 2017 09: 31
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      AKM from 50 meters pierces the neck of the narrow-gauge rail with a bullet with a steel core. And this is 30 mm of steel.

      Doesn’t break ... there is an experiment on YouTube, find and look.
      1. +7
        14 January 2017 11: 27
        Doesn’t break ... there is an experiment on YouTube, find and look.

        I will not offend you, as well as those who set up experiments on YouTube ... They shot back in the mid-70s ... They tried, experimented ... Everything breaks through and sets fire to everything ... Here are some small data that refresh your head:
        Steel helmet breaks through:
        a bullet with a steel core at a distance of 900 m with a probability of 80-90%,
        armor-piercing incendiary bullet at a distance of over 1100 m with a probability of 80-90%,
        Bulletproof vest 6B1 breaks through:
        a bullet with a steel core at a distance of 600 m with a probability of 80-90%,
        armor-piercing incendiary bullet at a distance of 1000 m with a probability of 80-90%.
        Steel armor of high hardness 7 mm thick at a meeting angle of 90 ° breaks through armor-piercing incendiary bullet:
        at a distance of 300 m with a probability of 50%,
        at a distance of 200 m with a probability of 90%.

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/7,62_×_39_мм
        And here are the characteristics of narrow gauge rails:

        Kalashnikov assault rifle - the best in the world !!! fellow
    2. +8
      14 January 2017 09: 32
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      What is not clear? What distance, what bullet? AKM from 50 meters rails neck from a narrow gauge pierces a bullet with a steel core. And this is 30mm steel.

      Judging by the fact that it passed, this is not an AKM at all, perhaps a SVD. 30 mm steel ... Punch the book from 50 m. And measure the residual energy after "steel-book", there will be something to talk about ...
      In this case, or in general in the case of helmets, it is not dangerous to break through, here the issue has been resolved long ago, the "cuff" at the moment of hitting is dangerous.
    3. +14
      14 January 2017 09: 39
      Here, just do not "jokes" rasskazyvat. Not a single bullet from AK-shaped does not penetrate the rail, even with a neck of 18,5 mm. There are not even any traces left ... Chips will form on the reverse side (almost punctured) when firing a B-32 bullet from the SVD from 50 meters. That's all, actually. And you are talking about 3 cm of steel. Here you need to shoot from the PTR. I was personally convinced by my own experience by firing an armor-piercing bullet from an AKM into an BTR-70 from 20 meters, putting a piece of board in the place of the shot. A tiny dent with small indentations was formed.
      1. +1
        14 January 2017 09: 55
        Well, it’s possible to break through, let's say not with 50, let's say not just a bullet ... The trick is old, well-known ... The thing is different, after passing an obstacle, it can only kill a cat. That's what I mean ... What actually happened.
      2. +3
        14 January 2017 11: 32
        You, expert, look above ... There is a rail with a neck of 5,5 mm and 7 mm ... There is no discussion about the railway rail here ... It is clear that behind such a rail you can even wait for firing from SVD and PKT ... there is a chance protect yourself from DShK and KPVT ... with small nuances ... laughing
    4. +2
      14 January 2017 11: 35
      there is a table of armor penetration. So 7.62 by 79 armor-piercing incendiary pierces 20 mm of ordinary steel. but high-carbon armor penetration is not more than 5 mm.
      just ask about the thickness of the side of the BTR-80 and it's still bulletproof armor
    5. 0
      16 January 2017 10: 41
      Do not confuse, dear, the "neck" of the rail with the "head". The neck is what is between the headband and the sole. And they began to pierce 30 mm - these are the tasks of the PTR. Sometimes you need to comprehend the information received so as not to look incompetent. Good luck!
    6. +1
      19 January 2017 00: 12
      Wow. Accidentally you did not confuse AKM with PTR?
  4. +5
    14 January 2017 09: 21
    Ugh, ugh, it means born in a shirt ...
  5. +2
    14 January 2017 09: 31
    Class. And he had to die then. Lucky guy.
  6. +7
    14 January 2017 09: 38
    I'm certainly not an expert and just ask. 1) the nature of the bullet, 2) a single shot, 3) caliber 7.62. The case did not work as a sniper? !!!
    1. +3
      14 January 2017 09: 56
      Quote: 1Alex3
      I'm certainly not an expert and just ask. 1) the nature of the bullet, 2) a single shot, 3) caliber 7.62. The case did not work as a sniper? !!!

      Most probably.
  7. +2
    14 January 2017 09: 45
    the core did not pass and this is the main thing ... health to the fighter!
  8. +2
    14 January 2017 09: 50
    Once again I want to remind you that the helmet can be made stronger and tightly attached to the shoulder (chest) frame
    1. +1
      14 January 2017 11: 36
      and horse for mounting the frame laughing
      1. 0
        14 January 2017 11: 45
        funny, but taken together - it's just a bronik with a helmet
        1. +2
          14 January 2017 11: 54
          and how much in situational awareness and mobility will a fighter lose in such a miracle device?
          1. 0
            14 January 2017 12: 23
            what will lose? Weight is about the same. The head does not touch the cumpole and spins freely, holes for audibility can be thought out. Some restriction in the lying position ...- Yes, too tight
            1. +1
              15 January 2017 17: 03
              OK. take a cardboard box, make not holes, but holes for audibility and put it on you. weight will be much less bronik with helmet. and then take two people with sticks so that they come up to you and slowly hit the attic with a stick. how many times do you think you can dodge?
              1. +1
                15 January 2017 17: 39
                why dodge something? The blow will be distributed on the shoulders and cuirass, the head will not even shake, unlike an ordinary helmet
                1. +1
                  16 January 2017 10: 45
                  Quote: pimen
                  why dodge something? The blow will be distributed on the shoulders and cuirass, the head will not even shake, unlike an ordinary helmet

                  In the Moscow Oblast, apparently, I am not aware of your research in the field of individual protection of a fighter on the battlefield. Patent your idea and you can not work for the rest of your life.
  9. +5
    14 January 2017 10: 14
    From the SVD planted? It seems that Kalash 7.62 is not in use? Then more so. If it holds 7.62x54, it's just a super helmet!
    1. +12
      14 January 2017 10: 47
      It falls under Stanag3 +/-. That is, an 1 gram fragment at 680m / s or a pistol 9mm bullet at 420m / s. All that is more is pure luck.

      Actually now they are trying to make helmets more convenient and easier, rather than booking. It is believed that Stanag3 is sufficient.

      For bullets of greater energy can no longer be dissipated = severe, if not fatal, neck injury. Actually, the Germans ran into the First World War when the helmet was not broken. They developed Stahlhelm with an 6mm removable armor plate, which had to be worn while fighting. However, in addition to the fact that it was inconvenient (displacement of the center of gravity and the weight itself) - the hit of a rifle bullet was fatal due to injuries to the head and neck without breaking through.

      Actually, until they come up with a compact exoskeleton or a system for dissipating energy past the neck, helmets will evolve only in a lighter, more convenient, more functional way, and not in armor protection.
      1. 0
        14 January 2017 19: 56
        Helmets made of armored metal based on titanium must be made - there will be lightness and bullet resistance and supplemented with a shock-absorbing device that protects the neck from damage - that is, it will be attached to the body armor on the back.
        1. +7
          14 January 2017 20: 04
          Quote: Vadim237
          Titanium-based armored helmets must be made

          - it’s better to make gold immediately ...

          Quote: Vadim237
          and supplement it with a shock-absorbing device that protects the neck from damage - that is, it will join the body armor on the back

          - How will you turn your head in battle?

          Vadim, Vadim ... I don’t know what kind of entrepreneur you are, but the designer is a gunsmith from you, like a dog’s sieve request
          1. 0
            15 January 2017 09: 59
            We have made helmets for special forces from titanium for a long time. "And how will you twirl your head in battle" - Easy, the connection of the helmet to the body armor can be made elastic, with articulated joints, that is, they will allow you to turn your head, but at the same time have sufficient rigidity - the structure will certainly turn out to be complicated - but this is better than breaking fight your neck and die.
            1. +1
              15 January 2017 10: 05
              Quote: Vadim237
              complement it with a shock absorber protecting the neck from damage - that is, it will join the body armor on the back

              Quote: Cat Man Null
              and your head in battle, how will you twirl?

              Quote: Vadim237
              ... articulated joints ...

              - the hinge joint is not at all what allows you to "twist your head", actually
              - "the waves fell with a rapid jack", no? wink
              Quote: Vadim237
              ... of course the construction will be complicated ...

              - translated - You have no idea how to do this. And is it possible at all.

              So why be clever then? So say - "I do not know" Yes
              1. 0
                15 January 2017 20: 40
                Complicated - because it is necessary to use hydraulic cylinders connected to each other and with swivel joints, at least two fastenings - on body armor and a helmet, and two strips of synthetic rubber can be made flexible elements.
                1. +3
                  15 January 2017 20: 47
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  will have to use hydraulic cylinders connected to each other and with swivel joints

                  - why the Feng Shui there are hydraulic cylinders? Head to swing, forced? They are no longer suitable for anything belay
                  - where does the articulation? The head must be twisted, not nodded!

                  Here is a swivel:


                  - and where did you intend to punch him there?

                  Either I’m quite a tree, or you, Vadim, are driven excessively ... IMHO, all the same, the second Yes

                  Sketchyk, or something, get your imagination, otherwise it’s difficult to understand from the words ...
                  1. +3
                    15 January 2017 20: 52
                    I also did not understand where the hinge with hydraulic cylinders was pinched. request
                    1. 0
                      15 January 2017 21: 29
                      Yes, no hinge is needed in his case: a narrow plate of moderate flexibility back and forth fastened with a cuirass behind the back of the head. The head in the cap comforter can bend it, with some effort, in this plane, or just as limitedly spin inside (in the cap comforter). Will work. More difficult is the docking unit, but it is possible without it
                      1. 0
                        16 January 2017 16: 11
                        The connection can be made on the basis of non-Newtonian fluid, which hardens at the time of impact
                  2. 0
                    19 January 2017 00: 30
                    Time will be ЗD model "scribble" once again - the design is complex.
    2. +1
      14 January 2017 10: 52
      Mountain shooter
      From the SVD planted?

      Apparently not, the campaign is 39 rounds ... Although everything may be, the 54th bullet at the end was ...
  10. +3
    14 January 2017 10: 43
    Personally, my opinion is just luck with a bullet trajectory. A millimeter back and forth and the article might not have been. Either fatal outcome, or severe concussion. Personally, the phrase guarded me "The bullet entered" nose ", back-right ... Why from such a perspective? Retreating? Surroundings or God forbid "yours"? ...
    1. +5
      14 January 2017 11: 34
      Why from such a perspective? Retreating? Surroundings or God forbid "yours"? ...

      Stupidity. And in order to look around, he had to turn his whole body ....? PS (Rather, he turned his head, so it flew ...).
      1. +2
        14 January 2017 13: 05
        Will you turn your head more than 90 degrees? Did they turn and then hit "from behind" - that is, almost from the flank, from their own trench?
  11. +6
    14 January 2017 11: 09
    Quote: Observer 33
    Punch the book from 50 m and measure the residual energy after "steel-book", there will be something to talk about ...

    The book is a multi-layered "armor". Therefore, the comparison with steel is not correct. To understand that the book is unusual material, try to burn an unopened book in the stove or at the stake. The wood will burn, and the book will only be charred on the outside, and this is because the book is multilayered. Breaking down laminated materials is a very difficult process.
  12. +4
    14 January 2017 11: 14
    Quote: Fox
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    AKM from 50 meters pierces the neck of the narrow-gauge rail with a bullet with a steel core. And this is 30 mm of steel.

    Doesn’t break ... there is an experiment on YouTube, find and look.

    Handsome !!!!!! There are so many pluses scored about YouTube. If I tell you that I did it myself thirty years ago, and 15 years ago also from the SCS at the sawmill, for trolleys, how do you look? Three shots three holes, but the last days pierced the core, but the shell remained in the hole. It’s bad that you don’t know !. and God forbid you fall under the fire of an assault rifle., or a machine gun. Because you didn’t understand why they fired? And the problems with helmets were announced five years ago. I don’t think that they have made much progress.
    1. +2
      14 January 2017 11: 41
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      And problems with helmets were announced five years ago. I do not think that much has been advanced in this.

      A helmet (any area ..) protects against small fragments and ricochets ... AND EVERYTHING! You are 100% right. Take care of yourself men and change positions more often and then there is a chance to survive ... soldier
  13. 0
    14 January 2017 11: 44
    Very good news!
  14. 0
    14 January 2017 12: 33
    Another confirmation of the brilliant thought of ABC.
    "A bullet is a fool, a bayonet is great"

    PS bayonet - with a small letter.
    PSS With big - not well done.
  15. 0
    14 January 2017 13: 42
    “At the moment, the helmet 6b47 in its characteristics is perhaps the best head protection in combined arms combat that we can afford”

    It sounds very ambiguous.
    1. +1
      14 January 2017 17: 10
      It’s time for them to switch to other helmets - Lynx T as an option for this war is difficult, but it's better than becoming disabled or dying.
  16. +1
    14 January 2017 14: 23
    The fastest recovery to the wounded ...
  17. +2
    14 January 2017 14: 33
    According to the description, the bullet pierced the wall of the helmet through. Why is he so good?
    1. +2
      14 January 2017 15: 30
      The fighter is alive, the helmet worked an order of magnitude better than it should ... Indeed, nothing good.
    2. +1
      14 January 2017 17: 13
      The guy was lucky to stay alive. Helmet protects within certain limits - this is good.
    3. +5
      15 January 2017 02: 42
      The fact that the person remained alive, and in another helmet, the brains out. That's clearer? It seems the Jews are not stupid people, but such ridiculous questions are asked
  18. +1
    14 January 2017 17: 21
    She (helmet) and should not withstand a bullet, a maximum of a gun and splinters, and he also destroyed a bullet. I think here it is more likely in the pool. not in a helmet.
    1. +1
      14 January 2017 20: 17
      "I think it's more of a bullet than a helmet." The defective one got caught - probably in 25 years of independence - the bullet "went to bed"
  19. +2
    14 January 2017 17: 51
    Quote: crazyrom
    It is unclear why the helmet is so praised and said "survived" if the peasant was damaged by the speech center in the brain.

    But what is better than breaking through your head?
  20. 0
    14 January 2017 18: 25
    Again laudatory odes to Russian producers. Since it is so cool, why then, for example, the MTR in Syria prefer to wear imported equipment, including protective equipment? Maybe because they have a choice of weapons and equipment and know the true price of the elements of weapons produced by the Russian Federation advertised by our media?
    1. +1
      14 January 2017 19: 57
      Well, give us an example of the names of the foreign equipment of the MTR?
      1. 0
        16 January 2017 09: 37
        Yes Easy,
        Headphones 3M

        About helmets, the so-called. "completely Russian production" see below.
    2. +2
      14 January 2017 20: 04
      "Since it is so cool, why then, for example, MTRs in Syria prefer to wear imported equipment" - If you are talking about this helmet - then this is completely Russian production - http://allmulticam.ru/collection/Ballistic-sh
      lems / product / Ballistic-helmet-SPARTAN-3-Bear
      -Strength
      1. +3
        15 January 2017 12: 50
        Eeeee, you read the little article to which you yourself are giving the link carefully ???? Multicam camouflage, "TeamWendy suspension and pillows were used as a sub-body device (the same under-body device can be installed on domestic helmets .. Adjustable suspension - CAM FIT RETENTION." This is all Russian production ???? And this is, in your opinion, marking used in the Russian military-industrial complex:
        The fact that it was certified in Russia by this helmet did not make it "Made in Russia"
  21. 0
    14 January 2017 19: 34
    Is your neck still intact?
    1. 0
      14 January 2017 20: 18
      The skull box was damaged.
      1. 0
        16 January 2017 10: 12
        Also interested in the question: how does a neck withstand a bullet of this caliber?
        It seems to me that if you don’t tear your head off right away, then at least press it tightly to your back, which excludes further life activity. http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/kaska.shtml
  22. +3
    14 January 2017 19: 51
    Quote: crazyrom
    It is unclear why the helmet is so praised and said "survived" if the peasant was damaged by the speech center in the brain.

    Because if a bullet (7,62) hits your head at a right angle, then we are talking about the full helmet of the jelly .....
  23. +3
    14 January 2017 19: 56
    Quote: voyaka uh
    According to the description, the bullet pierced the wall of the helmet through. Why is he so good?
    Read the article again.
    P.S. If the information is poorly absorbed and perceived, it does not matter; there are medicines (including Israeli) that are good on sale.
  24. +1
    15 January 2017 07: 29
    "WITHOUT the support of the official authorities of the Russian Federation" - of course, of course, we believe :) If there was no support, hell would have crossed our border from the equipment. And I will say more - some of the equipment cannot be bought openly in Russia at all, but for the DPR it is purchased, and it passes more or less freely across the border.
    1. +2
      15 January 2017 09: 48
      For those in the tank, the GDP said: it’s not possible to solve the conflict in the Donbas by military means ... It was just before the battles in Debaltseve.
  25. 0
    15 January 2017 13: 23
    By the way, since "Spartan" is entirely made in Russia, why are there no covers with camouflage adopted in the RF Armed Forces in the kit? It turns out a strange thing "production of the Russian Federation" does not meet the requirements of the RF Armed Forces)))))
    1. 0
      15 January 2017 20: 45
      Actually, this equipment is for special forces - they don’t care what color it is, they need functionality, strength and convenience.
      1. +2
        15 January 2017 23: 23
        Oh, and how did you determine that this helmet is only for special forces? wink And where exactly do these special forces choose their equipment? In secret special forces supermarkets? wink And most importantly, why choose an imported manufacturer? laughing As you already understood, this "special forces" helmet was produced in Russia only on paper. At least all of its components are foreign. It is immediately obvious that you have very distant ideas about the army. There are strict standards of allowance. These norms include only things adopted for service. The rest is your speculation.
        1. +3
          16 January 2017 13: 13
          There are strict standards of allowance. These standards include only things accepted for service.

          It seems to you a very distant idea of ​​the army. I'm not talking about special forces, for which even weapons are selected individually. But ordinary officers also have individual equipment, that is, of course, they receive sets of equipment, but usually they use different ones.
          Although it seems you did not even serve. Or do you think that flashers were armed with SA laughing
          1. 0
            17 January 2017 07: 36
            [quote = bk316] [quote] And the equipment for ordinary officers is individual, that is, of course, they get sets of equipment, but they usually use something else.
            laughing[/ Quote]
            Slowly creep under the table laughing And what "others", where are they taken? Is it taken away from the local population? laughing Or is it mined in battle? laughing You generally write about the Russian army ??? And in general about the army?
    2. 0
      15 January 2017 20: 49
      And for the special forces in Russia there is no uniform equipment — they choose their own equipment.
      1. 0
        17 January 2017 09: 50
        if they buy, then why don’t they take our equipment? Since she is better. Moreover, they will be given it for free with pleasure.
  26. 0
    15 January 2017 18: 30
    as they say, comments are redundant here, everything speaks for itself ...
  27. 0
    16 January 2017 01: 05
    At the same time, he emphasizes that no centralized supply exists: “We purchase equipment either ourselves or with the help of voluntary assistants acting privately WITHOUT the support of the official authorities of the Russian Federation”.

    So it's just that you can buy military ammunition for anyone and any? well, and storytellers.
    1. +4
      16 January 2017 20: 32
      That is exactly how you can. Of course, in order to find 6b47, I will have to work a little, but I personally could have bought 6b27 and 6b23 armor, but I refused, since I was told that if I did not buy it, they would go to Donbass at a reduced price. Although the price was not very high. By the way, 6b47 was then sold for 14, which was a "hysterically low price." Usually it cost 000 Russian rubles of money.
  28. +1
    16 January 2017 10: 48
    Quote: Vadim237
    Helmets made of armored metal based on titanium must be made - there will be lightness and bullet resistance and supplemented with a shock-absorbing device that protects the neck from damage - that is, it will be attached to the body armor on the back.

    Have you seen enough of Star Wars? belay
    1. 0
      16 January 2017 11: 00
      "Helmets from armored metallopen" wassat Urgently include in the Golden Quotation Fund !!! Mom and Dad take away his computer !!!!
      1. 0
        19 January 2017 00: 44
        For you - there is such a material - lightweight and very durable called "metal foam" any metals can be the basis - "The experiment was conducted by researchers from the University of North Carolina under the leadership of Avsane Rabiei, professor of aviation and rocket science. Scientists fired an armor-piercing bullet of 7,62 mm. into a piece of metal foam. ”The results surprised even the scientists themselves.

        “We were able to stop the bullet with material less than 2,5 cm thick, while the recess in the place where the bullet hit was less than 8 mm deep. For example, according to the standards of the National Institute of Justice, the armor is considered good, even if after getting into it there remains a recess of 44 mm depth, ”says Rabiei himself. At the same time, metal foam can be made in many different ways. Some pass hot gas through molten metal, others pour blanks using hollow metal spheres to give the material voids.

        In addition to the increased strength according to the professor’s research, composite metal foams effectively protect against x-rays and gamma rays, as well as from neutron radiation. They also withstand fire and heat twice as good as the metals from which they are made.
        1. +2
          19 January 2017 00: 56
          Quote: Vadim237
          Foam can be made in many different ways. Some pass hot gas through molten metal, others pour blanks using hollow metal spheres to give the material voids

          - Vadim, do you imagine the cost of such a helmet, in general?
          - Do you, in general, know examples of practical (industrial) application (rather than laboratory tests) of such materials?

          Quote: Vadim237
          professor research composite metal foam

          - what is "composite metal foam", explain if you cannot.
        2. 0
          19 January 2017 07: 28
          laughing laughing Metal spheres in molten metal ... how do you imagine this?
  29. 0
    16 January 2017 14: 49
    I like the word "militias".

    From 7,62 I do not believe it. Maybe from 1 km.
    1. 0
      16 January 2017 18: 16
      Of course somewhere like that.

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