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Chinese "mountain" tank began to be massively supplied to the troops

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Chinese engineers completed 5 years of work on light a tank a new generation, and at the end of 2016 the machine began to enter the army, reports Messenger of Mordovia.


Chinese "mountain" tank began to be massively supplied to the troops


“This tank is intended for operations in the mountainous regions of the People's Republic of China and therefore received the unofficial name of the mountain on the Internet. What is curious, the exact designation of the product of the Celestial Tankoprom of the Celestial Empire is still not known, ”writes publication author Lev Romanov.



According to him, a feature of the armored vehicle is a six-bearing chassis with variable hydropneumatic suspension. “The tank is armed with an 105-mm instrument and has an advanced fire control system with thermal channels. According to some reports, there is an automated charging system. Crew - 3 people. The maximum speed is 70 km / h, ”the article says.



The “mountain” tank should completely replace the obsolete Type 62 in the army, in essence, being a lightweight copy of the Soviet T-54.

Type 62
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China Defense Blog, imp-navigator.livejournal.com, Brave2004
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  1. himRa
    himRa 9 January 2017 13: 43
    +8
    Yes, mountains for a tank are a serious obstacle ... the author has a note on the technical characteristics of the tank so that there is something to discuss! winked
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 9 January 2017 13: 52
      +7
      TTX is a state secret in China! And the fact that the Chinese themselves can speak about it is officially wishful thinking! hi
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 9 January 2017 14: 01
        +14
        This tank has already been compared with the Sprut - SDM-1. The comparison is not in favor of the Chinese ...
        1. mr.redpartizan
          mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 15: 25
          +6
          In terms of armament, the Octopus-SDM1 is definitely much stronger, the Chinese have better protection, but he does not swim and cannot parachute. These are cars of different classes.
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 9 January 2017 18: 15
            +2
            mr.redpartizan but he jumps in the Chinese! wassat
      2. cniza
        cniza 9 January 2017 14: 03
        +5
        Let them dare, but what about armor? and whose power plant?
        1. Pirogov
          Pirogov 9 January 2017 14: 08
          +6
          Quote: cniza
          Let them dare, but what about armor? and whose power plant?

          The light tank is therefore what kind of armor it can be on, and the power plant, of course, is Chinese, the tank is not a fighter, the engines are easier there.
        2. twincam
          twincam 9 January 2017 15: 26
          +3
          1,2 on the mechanics, front-wheel drive? )))
        3. twincam
          twincam 9 January 2017 15: 26
          0
          1,2 on the mechanics, front-wheel drive? )))
        4. Monarchist
          Monarchist 9 January 2017 15: 58
          0
          Cniza, this is precisely the main secret
        5. Monarchist
          Monarchist 9 January 2017 15: 59
          0
          Cniza, this is precisely the main secret
        6. Monarchist
          Monarchist 9 January 2017 16: 00
          0
          Cniza, this is precisely the main secret
        7. Monarchist
          Monarchist 9 January 2017 16: 02
          0
          Cniza, this is precisely the main secret
      3. Monos
        Monos 9 January 2017 14: 04
        +7
        Judging by the additional fuel tanks, they will be used in isolation from the supply bases. ! 05 mm instead of 125 mm ZPT-98 to increase ammunition. "Mountain".
        Afghanistan?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 9 January 2017 14: 07
          +11
          They have problem Muslims in the west of the country. And Tibet.
          Sell ​​to Pakistan again ...
          1. svp67
            svp67 9 January 2017 14: 35
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            They have problem Muslims in the west of the country. And Tibet.
            Sell ​​to Pakistan again ...

            And the swamps on the border with Vietnam ... They have many problems.
            1. guzik007
              guzik007 9 January 2017 18: 19
              +6
              And the swamps on the border with Vietnam ... They have many problems.
              -----------------------------------
              No one voices the most important problem of modern China. And our authorities do not try to advertise the main claims of narrow-eyed neighbors to us in the next ten years ...
              Intrigued?
              .. So ... over the past 15 years, in China, out of 50 rivers and streams, hardly 000 remain.
              ... two years ago, when we were minus A on the forum, I was terribly "lowered" for my vanging about the fact that I modestly predicted that in the near future, the "Power of Siberia" will be pumped to "good-natured neighbor" not oil and gas, and Baikal water. And only I did not listen to Cho.
              About half a year ago, the Chinas offered to invest in a multi-billion dollar project for the construction of tourist infrastructure along the coast of Lake Baikal; instead, they modestly requested free bottling of its water.
              The next steps will be elementarily predictable based on the bitter experience of protection in the 90s ....
              First "help to business" then offers that you cannot refuse.
              Dzyazia Vova, smiling broadly, generously watered her neighbors, understanding the consequences of the refusal ...
              1. 34 region
                34 region 9 January 2017 21: 06
                +2
                18.19. Guzik 007! But you're right! He who does not want to develop his economy will develop someone else's! Napoleon was right. The same rule can be safely attributed to the economy. The economy, like the army, has its own economic strategies, general staff, generals and traitors. It’s sad. And here we are breaking spears about accomplices to the Nazis. And those who help foreigners today? Who are they? Dependence on a foreign economy is not the dependence of the vanquished? Does this not want to understand or do not want to acknowledge?
              2. Usher
                Usher 10 January 2017 10: 56
                +1
                What are you talking about, proof? You’re carrying garbage, it’s easier for them to desalinate ocean water than dragging water from a lake of a unesco protected by another country, and without the consent of local residents. Do you understand what you wrote? And although not, you're a paid troll.
                1. guzik007
                  guzik007 10 January 2017 17: 31
                  0
                  What are you talking about, proof?
                  ---------------------------------
                  ... from it! The Pharmaceutical Generation EGE! Give him a proof! For their brains for their own analysis netuti!
                  You, corporal, if you are deprived with your mind, reel on your mustache, as the outgoing generation speaks to them.
        2. himRa
          himRa 9 January 2017 15: 18
          +4
          The Chinese, if I remember correctly, still have territorial problems with India, and there was even a local conflict in the mountains in 1962 ..
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 9 January 2017 15: 47
            0
            Everywhere there are problems. The best way to solve them is to cut the tanks after reaching your goals
  2. 100502
    100502 9 January 2017 13: 46
    +3
    Well done, time works for China, another 10 years and they will become leaders in everything.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 9 January 2017 13: 55
      +3
      Well, if not leaders in EVERYTHING, but they will refuse to purchase military equipment abroad.
      Quote: 100502
      Well done, time works for China, another 10 years and they will become leaders in everything.
      1. himRa
        himRa 9 January 2017 14: 03
        +19
        when it was so!
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 9 January 2017 14: 35
          +12
          But it became so!
        2. rasputin17
          rasputin17 9 January 2017 14: 56
          +3
          And they say that the homeland of dumplings Siberia !! They started plagiarism with dumplings before they reached tanks and missiles !!! sad
          1. aleks700
            aleks700 9 January 2017 15: 59
            +6
            The homeland of dumplings is China and from there to Siberia.
            1. mole
              mole 9 January 2017 18: 59
              +2
              The first version suits me more! wink
  3. rasputin17
    rasputin17 9 January 2017 13: 50
    0
    Let a carbon copy of other people's samples but his own !!
  4. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 9 January 2017 13: 51
    +5
    Chinese engineers completed 5 years of work on a new generation light tank, and at the end of 2016 the machine began to enter the army
    I don’t know how quality is, but the pace of production is impressive.
  5. cannabis
    cannabis 9 January 2017 13: 59
    +4
    It would be light, they would load two per platform. Platform in Germany 100 tons - 2 T-80 tanks. The platform in China is 64 tons. So the weight of the "light" is more than 30 tons.
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 9 January 2017 14: 47
      +14
      Quote: cunning
      It would be light, they would load two per platform. Platform in Germany 100 tons - 2 T-80 tanks. The platform in China is 64 tons. So the weight of the "light" is more than 30 tons.


      Your logic is strange ...
      What is the point of loading a flatcar "to the limit"?
      What would "kill" a platform resource? What to get a potential emergency and a chance for a railway accident? And even with multi-million dollar losses?

      By your logic, these armored personnel carriers are also over 60 tons in weight?
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 9 January 2017 15: 16
        +10
        Quote: mav1971
        By your logic, these armored personnel carriers are also over 60 tons in weight?

        In my practice, the platform is 12,5 meters long. Everything that is less than 6 meters long is loaded in pairs, that can be loaded "into the tree" is loaded into the tree. Fuel tankers, air defense installations are loaded one by one. There are normal rules for loading military echelons. I didn't invent them. But personally he himself loaded a battalion of 47 infantry fighting vehicles, 13 tanks, 2 Shilki, and any khurda - a burda in 50 minutes. The officers only aligned the cars, and the conscripts were in command.
        1. cannabis
          cannabis 9 January 2017 15: 35
          +2
          Kampfpanzer T-34-85. NVA DDR
  6. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 9 January 2017 14: 01
    +2
    informed source .. this is the Herald of Mordovia.)
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 9 January 2017 18: 03
      +3
      Ah again this is arrogance! Herald of Mordovia, it is kanesh, not the Muskvabad news. But I assure you. A very competent source.
    2. Usher
      Usher 10 January 2017 10: 58
      0
      So what? What does not suit you the best portal for armored vehicles?
  7. Altona
    Altona 9 January 2017 15: 22
    +3
    Quote: Monos
    Judging by the additional fuel tanks, they will be used in isolation from the supply bases. ! 05 mm instead of 125 mm ZPT-98 to increase ammunition. "Mountain".
    Afghanistan?

    -------------------------
    What for? Remember our operation to destroy the Kwantung Army in Manchuria. When through Gobi and Khingan had to drag our tanks. In the mountains, maneuverability and suddenness matter. Therefore, guns and tanks should be light and collapsible. The Germans had special light portable collapsible mountain guns. In Chile, for example, a tank such as the Super Sherman, a slightly advanced type of WWII Sherman, is still used for operations in the mountains.
  8. Maz
    Maz 9 January 2017 15: 38
    +4
    Probably, South Korean Black was copied, it just has a suspension, and shells fly into the hatch of the enemy and the electronics of the battlefield are like in a game about tanks. But an expensive specimen. K2 Black Panther
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 9 January 2017 19: 17
      +1
      Maz! Where did you get this specialist commentator? I laughed at the comments of this specialist as much as the stomach ached. laughing laughing laughing A fake film, assembled from a bunch of technologies from other manufacturers.
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  10. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 9 January 2017 15: 44
    0
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    This tank has already been compared with the Sprut - SDM-1. The comparison is not in favor of the Chinese ...

    Well, do not tell! The Chinese have dynamic armor, but our self-propelled guns do not. And about the automatic loader - strong doubts, because self-propelled guns are airborne, lightened, but in the mountains you still cannot land them. Armor is also only anti-fragmentation. Caliber 125 mm. - means less ammunition. What is the advantage? Not in vain, after all, they call it self-propelled GUN.
  11. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 9 January 2017 15: 52
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    They have problem Muslims in the west of the country. And Tibet.
    Sell ​​to Pakistan again ...

    China cannot carry out ground operations in the Near and Middle East, as separated by mountain ranges. But he dreams (China), like Zhirinovsky, to wash his boots in the Mediterranean Sea. That's why he needs mountain tanks to overcome the mountains to move the 200-millionth army to the Middle East. Do not pacify ISIS, wait for the Chinese.
  12. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 9 January 2017 16: 03
    +1
    Quote: Monos
    Judging by the additional fuel tanks, they will be used in isolation from the supply bases. ! 05 mm instead of 125 mm ZPT-98 to increase ammunition. "Mountain".
    Afghanistan?

    And where did you see the additional fuel tanks? If you had in mind the rear fuel barrels, then these are not tanks, but simply barrels not related to the fuel system. And this is a tradition taken from tanks of the Soviet Union, on the march always have extra fuel. Before the battle, these barrels are thrown off, because they serve as an additional source of ignition when a tank is hit.
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 9 January 2017 19: 44
      +3
      Quote: Алексей_К
      then these are not tanks, but simply barrels not related to the fuel system.

      These are the barrels that can be "additional fuel tanks", since they have the ability to connect to the fuel system (as you correctly pointed out one of the distinctive features of the tank and barrel).
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 January 2017 22: 16
        0
        Additional barrels, with additional strapping, are necessary to eliminate the inconvenient and time-consuming operation of manually pumping fuel from barrels to tanks on the march. Remember this truth. In battle, all these barrels are thrown off, because when hit in them, and not in a tank, the tank will burn like a torch. Diesel fuel, although worse than gasoline, but also burns and extinguish 400 liters of diesel fuel in battle there is nothing and no one. The crew may not even notice this fire in a fever, because in battle, all the time, something is hammering on the armor, and there is no time for the commander to look back, God forbid, anti-tank weapons are ahead and do not miss the sides.
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 January 2017 22: 28
        0
        By the way, something did not notice fasteners for additional fuel barrels on the T-14 Armata. It looks like this deprecated item has been abandoned.
    2. svp67
      svp67 9 January 2017 20: 15
      0
      Quote: Алексей_К
      And where did you see the additional fuel tanks?

      Yes, most likely they are there according to our model and are present on the fenders
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 January 2017 22: 15
        0
        Additional barrels, with additional strapping, are necessary to eliminate the inconvenient and time-consuming operation of manually pumping fuel from barrels to tanks on the march. Remember this truth. In battle, all these barrels are thrown off, because when hit in them, and not in a tank, the tank will burn like a torch. Diesel fuel, although worse than gasoline, but also burns and extinguish 400 liters of diesel fuel in battle there is nothing and no one. The crew may not even notice this fire in a fever, because in battle, all the time, something is hammering on the armor, and there is no time for the commander to look back, God forbid, anti-tank weapons are ahead and do not miss the sides.
  13. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 9 January 2017 16: 11
    0
    Quote: Maz
    Probably South Korean Black was copied, it’s just the suspension and shells fly into the enemy’s hatch

    I ask you to clarify - how the suspension flies into the hatch of the enemy flies? And the hit of shells in the hatch is doubtful. Anti-tank shells fly along a trajectory almost parallel to the ground, with a slight decrease. This is called direct range firing. How do they fly into the hatch? Kill God, I don’t understand?
    1. sandrmur76
      sandrmur76 9 January 2017 19: 07
      0
      I ask you to clarify - how the suspension flies into the hatch of the enemy flies? And the hit of shells in the hatch is doubtful. Anti-tank shells fly along a trajectory almost parallel to the ground, with a slight decrease. This is called direct range firing. How do they fly into the hatch? Kill God, I don’t understand?
      Alexey Are you a bookworm? It is clear that the shell flies conditionally into the hatch. By the fact that the stern rises and lowers before and the trunk lowers. If the tank is higher than the enemy, then the projectile will fly from top to bottom (certainly not 90gr.), But also not along a flat (gentle) trajectory. yes
    2. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 9 January 2017 19: 56
      +1
      If you wish, you can find fault with you. repeat
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Quote: Maz
      Probably South Korean Black was copied, it’s just the suspension and shells fly into the enemy’s hatch

      I ask you to clarify - how the suspension flies into the hatch of the enemy flies? And the hit of shells in the hatch is doubtful. Anti-tank shells fly along a trajectory almost parallel to the ground, with a slight decrease. This is called direct range firing. How do they fly into the hatch? Kill God, I don’t understand?
      Generally, a "direct shot" is a shot in which the trajectory of the projectile does not exceed the height of the target. And there is no trace of parallelism to the ground and a slight decrease.
  14. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 9 January 2017 16: 19
    +2
    Quote: cunning
    Officers only leveled cars, and sergeants commanded conscripts.

    Don't understand what it means "just align the cars"? Aligning means commanding. On the platform, only one commander, otherwise the driver will not be able to look at the commands of the two commanders. And the correct (exact) entry to the platform is not allowed without leveling. In our unit, there was a case when an officer neglected the charter and gave orders with his hands incorrectly. As a result, the tank flew off the platform. There cannot be two commanders, either an officer or a sergeant, but ONE.
    1. cannabis
      cannabis 9 January 2017 17: 23
      +6
      Quote: Алексей_К
      I didn’t understand what it means "just align the cars"

      What Charter did the officer neglect? You loaded the T-80 tanks, you know how much the caterpillar should hang from the side, under which rink to put the spikes? How to center a platform with two infantry fighting vehicles? Have you tried to unload the train at night in the rain and in reverse, when you have to cross the platforms through 25 platforms, to turn the equipment around with turns? Why ask unnecessary questions? So it’s clear that the most difficult and dangerous thing is carried out under the guidance of officers or by the officers themselves. This is interesting, how to prevent entry without alignment if loading is not from the end but from the side ramp, and the entrance to it from the side with a turn on the platform? That's it, soldier, hang up. The commander is tired.
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 January 2017 17: 27
        0
        Quote: cunning
        under which rink to put spikes?

        Only "spurs", this device

        called a spur
  15. Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha 9 January 2017 16: 20
    0
    Can anyone explain how the mountain tank differs from the usual one? Well, except for this sample.
    1. cannabis
      cannabis 9 January 2017 17: 36
      +5
      Quote: Partizan Kramaha
      Can anyone explain how a mountain tank differs from a regular one?

      A "mountain" tank usually has square rollers with loose tires, tracks torn from wear and stone dust, dust. dust in filters, in eyes, on teeth. In general, tanks are not recommended to walk in the mountains. This is not their street and not their area. There are no mountain tanks in nature.
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 9 January 2017 19: 49
        +2
        I agree to all 100. I want to add a little: on each track it is attached on a spur for climbing the snowy peaks, it is hung from all sides with appendix rods and only go in a bundle of three with the help of elongated tow cables. laughing
    2. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 9 January 2017 22: 57
      0
      The mountain tank is designed for action in mountainous terrain. I suppose, structurally, this is an engine that can operate on an ultra-enriched fuel mixture (rarefied air), which is certainly lightweight and with special additional equipment. I would add better autonomy (power reserve) and reliability (for example, some simpler engineering solutions instead of exotics, although an adjustable hydropneumatic suspension has already been mentioned, but you need to give this drink in the mountains for any kind of compensation for slopes) because in the mountains the rear provision is difficult, and mountain tankers, tractors and SEMs would have to be developed.
  16. ride78
    ride78 9 January 2017 19: 48
    0
    Damn, okay, the T-14 is expensive, so close up at least 1500 pieces - the T-90Am, why not? Replace all 72b with them while the armature is stamped there.
  17. doubovitski
    doubovitski 9 January 2017 20: 44
    +2
    Quote: Ride78
    Damn, okay, the T-14 is expensive, so close up at least 1500 pieces - the T-90Am, why not? Replace all 72b with them while the armature is stamped there.

    The T-14 is not a tank, but a platform unified with a dozen different (identical components) combat vehicles. Unification can dramatically reduce the number of spare parts, fuel and lubricant kits, weapons, shells and much more. Support for the disagreement in armaments with the release of old weapon models, when there is no urgent need for such a solution, exacerbating and increasing operating costs. The development of a particular series, and not an individual machine, is a very costly operation. Since it makes many diverse requirements of diverse customers tie into one knot. This decision is possible only with the state strategic management of the release of military equipment. Firms that produce separately tanks, separately lighter equipment to agree on such a union is almost impossible. The development of the T-14 platform is a tremendous advantage for the Russian defense industry. Do you propose to abandon this indefinitely?
    1. Igool
      Igool 10 January 2017 01: 46
      +2
      Quote: doubovitski
      T-14 is not a tank, but a platform unified with a dozen different

      The T-14 is the tank, and the platform is the Armata.
      T-14 (GBTU Index - Object 148) is the newest Russian main tank with an uninhabited tower on the basis of the Armata universal tracked platform.
      All armies of the world are armed with both obsolete and incoming new equipment. Compose only from the new, too expensive. The obsolete is modified and it receives a second life, because in certain conditions its use is justified and effective.
  18. Evil 55
    Evil 55 10 January 2017 07: 28
    0
    A tank for the mountains ... "Little Brothers" have come up with a fresh direction in tank building?
  19. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 10 January 2017 21: 47
    0
    Quote: sandrmur76
    I ask you to clarify - how the suspension flies into the hatch of the enemy flies? And the hit of shells in the hatch is doubtful. Anti-tank shells fly along a trajectory almost parallel to the ground, with a slight decrease. This is called direct range firing. How do they fly into the hatch? Kill God, I don’t understand?
    Alexey Are you a bookworm? It is clear that the shell flies conditionally into the hatch. By the fact that the stern rises and lowers before and the trunk lowers. If the tank is higher than the enemy, then the projectile will fly from top to bottom (certainly not 90gr.), But also not along a flat (gentle) trajectory. yes

    He served on tanks after the cap. repair after fights. I have not seen getting into the hatch in my life. But the brewed holes in the side and frontal armor had seen enough. One can only theoretically imagine this, and even then if the tank is stuck in this position and becomes motionless.
  20. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 10 January 2017 21: 53
    0
    Quote: cunning
    What Charter did the officer neglect?

    The charter contains commands given by hands to control the driver. Because nobody will risk a tank in a war because of a driver who has little experience in driving a tank. It’s one thing to call in a flyover at a tank test site and it’s quite another thing to call on a real platform.
  21. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 10 January 2017 22: 01
    0
    Quote: kirgiz58
    If you wish, you can find fault with you. repeat
    Quote: Алексей_К
    Quote: Maz
    Probably South Korean Black was copied, it’s just the suspension and shells fly into the enemy’s hatch

    I ask you to clarify - how the suspension flies into the hatch of the enemy flies? And the hit of shells in the hatch is doubtful. Anti-tank shells fly along a trajectory almost parallel to the ground, with a slight decrease. This is called direct range firing. How do they fly into the hatch? Kill God, I don’t understand?
    Generally, a "direct shot" is a shot in which the trajectory of the projectile does not exceed the height of the target. And there is no trace of parallelism to the ground and a slight decrease.

    Any flight of a projectile, bullet or grenade occurs along a ballistic trajectory. Or do you not know that any projectile is gradually approaching the ground? A direct shot is the movement of the projectile when its ballistic trajectory does not exceed the height of the target and thus it is guaranteed to hit the target: in the upper, lower or middle parts of the target. Physics at school was apparently poorly taught.
  22. Sergei75
    Sergei75 14 January 2017 18: 58
    0
    The expansion of China in our Far East and Siberia is proceeding at a tremendous pace; Chinese enclaves are being created where the law of the Celestial Empire is in force and orders are issued directly.
    The fifth column of China in Russia has already been created, and if you can’t cut it off from the leaders from outside (from China), Russia will lose a huge part of its territories.
    The problem is being hushed up, but it is.
    Russia can not oppose China to anything other than nuclear weapons, they will throw us hats, it can only help aggravate relations between China and India, the United States, etc., which is not so simple, because colossal resources are needed for warfare, and ... Russia has them, and to take them, this is China's first priority.