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Installation of the Berekhok fighting compartment will increase the effectiveness of Russian BMP-2 threefold

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Currently, work is underway to increase the firepower and command control of the BMP-2 with the installation of the Berehok military compartment on it, reports Messenger of Mordovia.


Installation of the Berekhok fighting compartment will increase the effectiveness of Russian BMP-2 threefold


“After entering“ Berezhka ”into service, the combat effectiveness of the BMP-2 compared to the long-obsolete base variant will increase 3,2 times. According to many characteristics, the upgraded infantry fighting vehicles will approach the best world models, and by some characteristics they will surpass them, ”writes the author Dmitry Lemeshko.



BMPs will receive "modern fire control systems consisting of a combined gunner's sight with a thermal imaging channel, which will allow them to operate effectively at night," he notes. There is a laser range finder and a digital ballistic computer with a sensor system. Thanks to the panoramic sight, the commander will be able to duplicate the work of the gunner. A similar sighting system is available in the newest BMD-4M.



“The modern anti-tank complex Kornet is capable at long ranges (up to 8000 m) to penetrate multilayer armor, which is equivalent to 1300 mm steel, behind dynamic protection. A good 30-2 42 cannon and a PKT machine gun will be a good aid to the AG-30 automatic 17-mm grenade launcher with an ammunition load up to 300 grenade, which is located on the back of the tower.

The author notes that more than 300 BMP-2 with the module "Berezhok" has been operated for a long time in the Algerian army, where they have proven themselves from the best side.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 9 January 2017 13: 17
    +9
    I just think that it will go primarily for export .. Our army needs machines of the "Kurganets" generation
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 January 2017 13: 19
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      I just think that it will go primarily for export .. Our army needs machines of the "Kurganets" generation


      It seems that way they already have the necessary advertising.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 9 January 2017 13: 52
        +10
        It’s quite a successful upgrade, extending the service life.
    2. Pirogov
      Pirogov 9 January 2017 13: 26
      +9
      Quote: 210ox
      I just think that it will go primarily for export .. Our army needs machines of the "Kurganets" generation

      And for your beloved, what is not necessary to upgrade the BMP 2? And there are many of them in the troops.
      1. MaksoMelan
        MaksoMelan 10 January 2017 05: 52
        0
        You can upgrade for yourself and then, in which case, you can sell it.
      2. MaksoMelan
        MaksoMelan 10 January 2017 05: 52
        0
        You can upgrade for yourself and then, in which case, you can sell it.
    3. svp67
      svp67 9 January 2017 13: 28
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      I think that this will be exported first of all ..

      So already gone "... more than 300 BMP-2 with the Berezhok module have been in operation in the Algerian army for a long time"
      Quote: 210ox
      Our army needs vehicles of the Kurganets generation

      Our army needs modern machines in the proper quantity. How long will it take to properly fill the troops with Kurganets, especially since this vehicle still has to go through a very painful stage of "treating childhood illnesses." So, the upgraded and standardized BMP-1 and BMP-2 will not be superfluous. Moreover, tank repair enterprises will be involved in this work ...
      1. mr.redpartizan
        mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 13: 37
        +2
        It is better to upgrade the tanks to the modern level of T-72B3M and T-90AM, they will be relevant for another 10-15 years.
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 January 2017 13: 42
          +3
          Quote: mr.redpartizan
          Better upgrade tanks

          One does not interfere with the other ... Weapons and military equipment in general MUST undergo modernization at least ONCE in five to seven years. So that then such "rearmament races", which we are now witnessing, do not produce. So, as the level of modern weapons, and this is modernized, should not fall below 60% of the total.
        2. mareco
          mareco 9 January 2017 13: 45
          +2
          T-72B3m is completely out of date.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 9 January 2017 13: 57
            +3
            Quote: Mareco
            T-72B3m completely out of date

            - well, I-I-clear business ...
            - and the funny thing is that there is NO such machine in nature. From the word "absolutely" wassat
            - tankizda, plin ...
          2. mr.redpartizan
            mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 14: 01
            +2
            Why ? In terms of most parameters, the B3M modification is in no way inferior to NATO tanks, and even surpasses some in protection. The new gun from the T-90A, the 1130 hp engine, the modern fire control system, DZ "Contact-5" or "Relic" take the vehicle to a new level, although its layout has remained the same.
            1. Hog
              Hog 10 January 2017 00: 26
              0
              Is this the one for biathlon?
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    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 9 January 2017 13: 56
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      I just think that it will go primarily for export .. Our army needs machines of the "Kurganets" generation

      So "Berezhok" was originally an export one. And now the Ministry of Defense wants to buy a licked serial product, for which it is not necessary to start production from scratch, and then eliminate the shortcomings in the troops. smile
    5. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 9 January 2017 18: 21
      0
      They have been exporting since 2005, if not earlier.
    6. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 9 January 2017 18: 21
      0
      They have been exporting since 2005, if not earlier.
    7. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 9 January 2017 18: 21
      0
      They have been exporting since 2005, if not earlier.
    8. ride78
      ride78 9 January 2017 19: 52
      0
      Kurgan soon think a little more. And so, in principle, a triple would be normal, and on this one to make a pair of 100 and 30 - it would be quite.
    9. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 January 2017 21: 19
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      I just think that it will go primarily for export .. Our army needs machines of the "Kurganets" generation

      And what to do with the fleet that we have? Total production: about 15000 pcs. all modifications of the BMP-2. Of these, two thousand went for export, by force ...
      As for this modification, there is an interesting moment-
      Russian modification of the BMP-2 "Berezhok". An additional panoramic sight is installed. The location of the AGS-17 was changed, 4 ATGM launchers "Kornet" were installed. In 2005, a contract was signed with Algeria for the modification of 300 vehicles to the level of BMP-2M
    10. Portuguese boat
      Portuguese boat 9 January 2017 21: 35
      0
      Kurganets will replace the outdated BTR-80, primarily in terms of booking, but wheeled vehicles will never be able to replace the BMP, and the BTR and BMP have different tasks. The armored personnel carrier is the patrolling and delivery of infantry to the battlefield, and the BMP is the delivery of the infantry to the battlefield and its fire support, actions in conjunction with tanks. For an armored personnel carrier, `` Berezhok '' is quite suitable, but for an armored personnel carrier, more serious weapons are needed, for example, `` Bakhcha ''
  2. cannabis
    cannabis 9 January 2017 13: 28
    +4
    It’s interesting that they came up with so that soot and oil from the ejector did not settle on the glass of the commander’s panoramic sight? Again tie pants from canvas? Our army and such machines come in handy! If each will have ammunition of 8 Cornet missiles, then the armored group of a motorized rifle company is a ready-made anti-tank reserve of the regiment, and when occupying an advantageous position, it is also a means of fighting anti-tank helicopters of the enemy at the moment of their reaching the firing lines.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 January 2017 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: cunning
      If each has an ammunition of 8 Cornet missiles, then the armored group of a motorized rifle company is a ready-made anti-tank reserve of the regiment

      An anti-tank battery, among other things, 4 KNP deploys from which it is possible to control artillery fire from a PDO. The armored group of a motorized rifle company does not have such capabilities. As there is no way to tear the company and three platoons from the main task to manage such a reserve in battle.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 9 January 2017 14: 10
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        tear the company and three platoons from the main task

        The "armor" of the platoon is commanded by the Zamkomzvoda. The armor of a company armored group can command a company castle. The company commander should "twist" the company, and not run back and forth plugging holes in the control. In addition, the battalion has a captain - an assistant battalion commander for artillery, who manages the affairs of the anti-tank platoon, minbatr, the fire of the assigned armored group, and, by decision of the battalion commander, calls the fire of the regimental artillery group and the supporting art battalion. In short, each ram carries its own eggs.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 January 2017 14: 49
          +2
          Quote: cunning
          The "armor" of the platoon is commanded by the Zamkomzvoda.

          He's KO-1, isn't he? And you can’t pick it up
          Quote: cunning
          In addition, there is a captain in the battalion - assistant battalion commander in artillery

          It is also impossible to take it.
          And in the PT battery there are 4 full-time KNIs. With compasses, rangefinders, personnel for their use and so on. So replace the PT battery with an armored group will not work.

          Except perhaps for defense against infantry. For some reason, anti-tank crews have no means of self-defense. Well, except that the regular RPKS-74 at the mechanics, which the RAVists consider redundant and are replaced by the AKS-74. "They are a lady for the paratroopers, even in army warehouses they are not ..."
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 9 January 2017 15: 07
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            So replace the PT battery with an armored group will not work.

            Somehow you do not understand everything that way .... a reserve is provided for in the decision of the committee. Regiment reconnaissance reserve (with the simultaneous death of reconnaissance for various reasons) - a motorized rifle company. By the way, they are preparing for this in advance. And people are specially selected there. The anti-tank division of a two-three-battery regiment can also suffer losses during a sudden fire attack and as a result of an air strike. It can also be replaced by one of the units (armored group of a company of a battalion of the 2nd echelon). This is also the decision of the regiment commander. Or maybe the commander will simply take their platoon from the combatants and create a battery based on them. The situation will tell the commander a solution. That's why he is the commander. Maneuver forces and means his work.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 9 January 2017 16: 46
              +1
              Quote: cunning
              Anti-tank division regiment two-three-battery

              You are confusing something. In the regiment PT battery. Not a division. Divisions in Serdyukov brigades.
              1. cannabis
                cannabis 9 January 2017 17: 45
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                You are confusing something.

                It is you, sir, that you confuse the platoon commander with the platoon commander. You confuse an anti-tank battery with a howitzer. You confuse an anti-tank battery with ATGM systems based on the BRDM with a Rapier battery. There was an anti-tank division in my regiment. And the anti-aircraft division. And the artillery division. And in another regiment, in addition, there was a Grad-1 battery on Zil-131. I did not serve in Serdyukov’s or in Perdyukov’s brigades. He served in the Soviet army.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 9 January 2017 18: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: cunning
                  There was an anti-tank division in my regiment. And the anti-aircraft division. And the artillery division.

                  And in one of the regiments where I served there were TWO artillery divisions. What are you arguing about? About the regular structure of the USSR Armed Forces, so in vain. She was VERY variable ...
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 9 January 2017 20: 44
                    +2
                    There were shelves with two artillery divisions. Like, for example, ours. There were shelves with jet batteries as a plus to the artillery division, there were shelves with a jet division as a plus for the receiver.
                    But anti-tankers in the regiment more than the SPTRK battery of the three-platoon composition never existed. OPTADN is the next level, divisions.
                2. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 9 January 2017 20: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: cunning
                  There was an anti-tank division in my regiment.

                  This was probably a special regiment, made by special order. And in the division instead of the OPTADN there was an anti-tank regiment, or even a brigade?
    2. ride78
      ride78 9 January 2017 19: 54
      0
      A question for connoisseurs, what about Chrysanthemum M? Didn't Shoot? In principle, in fact, it is better to put cornets on the BMP than this thing with a "hand".
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 9 January 2017 23: 03
        +1
        What about Chrysanthemum? Shot of course in the amount of something about 20 copies.
        1. Herman
          Herman 9 January 2017 23: 54
          0
          60 pieces are definitely there.
  3. mag nit
    mag nit 9 January 2017 13: 29
    0
    Algeria was armed, and only now they decided to deliver it to the Russian BMP - 2.
    1. mr.redpartizan
      mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 13: 33
      0
      It makes no sense to invest in frank trash. Soviet infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers have only one purpose - the transportation of soldiers in the conditions of the use of weapons of mass destruction, they do not provide reliable protection against enemy fire.
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 January 2017 13: 45
        +4
        Quote: mr.redpartizan
        Soviet infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers have only one purpose - the transportation of soldiers in the conditions of the use of weapons of mass destruction, they do not provide reliable protection against enemy fire.

        And you can find out a sample of a non-Soviet infantry fighting vehicle or armored personnel carrier that provides RELIABLE PROTECTION from enemy fire ....
        1. mr.redpartizan
          mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 14: 08
          0
          Israeli "Namer", our T-15, German "Puma" have combined anti-cannon armor, although their weight exceeds 40 tons. The lighter ones include the German Marder-2, the Swedish CV90, the domestic B-11 (Kurganets-25), which have protection against 30 mm BOPS in the frontal projection and all-round protection against 14,5 mm KPVT.
          1. svp67
            svp67 9 January 2017 14: 26
            +3
            Quote: mr.redpartizan
            Israeli "Namer", our T-15, German "Puma" have combined anti-cannon armor, although their weight exceeds 40 tons. AND

            EXCEEDS 40 tons, can you imagine their operational maneuverability in our conditions? Such BMPs simply cannot make up the bulk of the BMP. Since their "reliable" protection for the infantry will be provided to the nearest blown-up bridge over a river or canal, and there they themselves will be provided with legs, feet ...
            Quote: mr.redpartizan
            The lighter ones include the German Marder-2, the Swedish CV90, the domestic B-11 (Kurganets-25), which have protection against 30 mm BOPS in the frontal projection and all-round protection against 14,5 mm KPVT.
            It is possible to note that, as well as the fact that of them only "Kurganets" can swim independently without preparation, and the other two, again to the nearest blown up bridge, and then the infantry again go for a walk in the field ...
            1. mr.redpartizan
              mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 14: 57
              +1
              The ability to swim is now not as important as during the Second World War. Engineering troops are capable of quickly crossing even a wide river. All the leading armies of the world sacrificed buoyancy in favor of protection.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 9 January 2017 16: 36
                +3
                Quote: mr.redpartizan
                Engineering troops are capable of quickly crossing even a wide river.

                How many crossings can a motorized rifle division bring in its offensive zone? And what is the marching speed and protection of PMP cars? That is, will the same PMP or SHG not lag behind military vehicles, and how will you cross the river if there is at least minimal enemy resistance on the other side?
                1. mr.redpartizan
                  mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 17: 20
                  0
                  A clever adversary will mine sections of the coast suitable for landing, therefore engineering forces cannot be dispensed with. Even BTR / BMP ferried to the other side will not last long in battle without the support of tanks and artillery.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 9 January 2017 17: 54
                    0
                    Quote: mr.redpartizan
                    A clever adversary will mine coastal areas suitable for landing, therefore engineering forces cannot be dispensed with.

                    Are you out of your mind? Well, he mined the shore along the line of contact, a common practice. But he will not mine ALL coastal areas on all rivers in his rear, since no mines will be enough, and there is no need for this.
                2. cannabis
                  cannabis 9 January 2017 18: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  minimum enemy resistance on the other side?

                  Duc, the bridgehead should be seized at first to capture, to consolidate the Iago, to expand, to seize one bridgehead. To beg for aviation, antillery, work out a bunch of plans and calculate a bunch of calculations, coordinate with the generals, neighbors, fool the enemy with a false maneuver and only then heroically force. If the enemy allows.
              2. svp67
                svp67 9 January 2017 17: 49
                0
                Quote: mr.redpartizan
                Engineering troops are capable of quickly crossing even a wide river.

                Through ONE - no problem, but if there are dozens of them along the way, and even as many deep ravines? Well, they will establish a couple of crossings through them and they will have to skip all the equipment. Well, in a couple of days I think they’ll manage. Only now, and by this time the enemy will have time to transfer troops to this place. And here he is a positional dead end.
          2. cast iron
            cast iron 9 January 2017 16: 10
            0
            The German Puma with its 50mm VLD does not have anti-cannon armor. Only when installing an additional remote sensing device, and I still don't have one. In any case, they don't write about her. With additional booking, the Puma weighs more than 40 tons - an obvious overload for the chassis (without additional booking it weighs 30 tons). A weight gain of 30% does not pass without leaving a trace.

            The Israeli Namer also cannot withstand being hit by RPGs or tank BPs. VLD does not have anti-tank weapons in his possession. And the board even more so. The only hope is for KAZ.

            Nothing is known about the T-15 yet. She has an internal combustion engine in front, which means VLD is also significantly weakened. Once again, hope for DZ and KAZ.

            The only unconditional plus of 40-ton BMPs is relatively good protection against close gaps of 152-155mm OFSs.
            1. mr.redpartizan
              mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 17: 29
              0
              "Puma" has hinged AMAP modules made of armored ceramics and KAZ, "Namer" in terms of protection corresponds to the "Merkava Mk.4" tank, and the T-15 has armor made of a new alloy, DZ "Malachite" and KAZ "Afganit".
              1. cast iron
                cast iron 9 January 2017 18: 22
                +1
                Did I miss something and the armored ceramic tile became protection against RPGs, ATGMs and tank BP? )) From a couple of hits of 30-40 mm, it will protect, but no more.

                Merkava 4's passive defense is very mediocre. Only the front tower is less protected. Merkava's VLD is worse than that of the T-72. NLD at Merkava occupies 50% of the frontal projection and hardly reaches the 80mm armor. The only real defense is KAZ.

                The T-15 has a front engine. So VLD of this tank physically cannot be more powerful than VLD of the same T80. But in fact, the upper frontal plate of the T-15 is 100% worse than the T-80. And significantly. The main defense of the T-15 is DZ and KAZ.
                1. mr.redpartizan
                  mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 21: 35
                  0
                  German armor AMAP is not only ceramics, but also KAZ. The defeat of the tank in the NLD in off-road conditions is a great success for calculating the ATGM. There is no exact data on the thickness and composition of the T-15 armor in the public domain, but this armor is definitely better than the T-80U and even the T-90A. Another thing, the survivability of an engine with a transmission when hit by a machine with a high-explosive shell may be in question.
                  1. cast iron
                    cast iron 9 January 2017 23: 21
                    +1
                    You said that the Puma has anti-cannon armor. And I'm telling you that a standard 50mm steel armor plate (or what does it have there?), Even with a load of ceramic plates on top, is not an obstacle even for RPGs of the 1980s. What can we say about ATGM and tank ammunition. "Puma" in front will be able to protect against several hits of 30mm shells (possibly 40mm), but not more. This is about passive armor.

                    The fact is that NLD at Merkava occupies 50% of the projection area. And, for example, the T-72 only 33% (1/3 of the area). And despite the fact that Merkava itself is huge - you can compare its projection with the projection of Soviet tanks on a scale. Very revealing. You will see that its NLD is already at the level of the VLD of Soviet tanks.

                    I personally do not believe in miracles. Elementary logic says that if the engine is in front, then the engineers will not be able to stick a thick VLD with it - the weight distribution of the car will suffer greatly. Merkava suffers from the same. The main defense of the T-15 is the dynamic protection in the form of a "pike nose" in front and KAZ. And the VLD itself, I think, protects against 40-50-70mm shells, no more. The T-15 cannot have a better VLD than the T80 and T90. Physics does not allow. T80 and T90 have thick VLD 250mm thick with fillers. It is impossible to organize such protection on the T-15 due to the front engine.

                    A powerful 152mm or 155mm OFS will damage any machine with a close hit, not to mention a direct hit.
    2. svp67
      svp67 9 January 2017 13: 43
      +2
      Quote: mag nit
      Algeria was armed, and only now they decided to deliver it to the Russian BMP - 2.

      Well, there were such times before. For his army - there was no money. Now we have realized. Yes, and earned extra money on international contracts ...
      1. cast iron
        cast iron 9 January 2017 18: 25
        0
        Our military-industrial complex did not earn on foreign contracts, but survived - i.e. so as not to stretch your legs and save the backbone of frames.
  4. mr.redpartizan
    mr.redpartizan 9 January 2017 13: 29
    +1
    Someone is lobbying for the modernization of this "cardboard", which even makes its way from a 12,7 mm machine gun. It is necessary to test the newest BMP Kurganets-25 faster, which in the future will replace the main part of the BMP-1/2/3, and not spend money on scrap metal.
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 9 January 2017 13: 48
      +6
      There are not only partisan wars. Who gets who faster? You with a 12,7 mm machine gun, or I you with a "Cornet". The main purpose of the Russian Army's BTVT is a full-scale war, and in this case, the modernized 2ka is not a bad fire reinforcement for motorized riflemen. I agree that "Kurganets" is "exactly what we need", but until we complete them, more than one year will pass and we will spend more than one lard denyuzhek. And this is a transitional and temporary solution. But they don't seem to have much money either.
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    3. cannabis
      cannabis 9 January 2017 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: mr.redpartizan
      Someone is lobbying for the modernization of this "cardboard", which even makes its way from a 12,7 mm machine gun.

      Without emotion ....... we calculate the combat effectiveness. BMP -1 In defense, the Thunder cannon has a combat efficiency coefficient of 0,5 for a tank using ATGMs for a tank, let 1 (at least one out of four hit) total - one and a half tanks. BMP-2 is more effective at using ATGMs, it doesn’t have anti-tank guns, but it has the ability to destroy combat helicopters. Now, with the installation of the Kornet complexes, the BMP -2 efficiency factor will be equal to the number of missiles in the ammunition. Moreover, the machine itself may be in the depths of the defense of the mouth of the first and second echelon.
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 January 2017 14: 03
      +3
      Quote: mr.redpartizan
      Someone is lobbying for the modernization of this "cardboard", which even makes its way from a 12,7 mm machine gun.

      Well, it's all solvable. There are NII Steel developed dynamic protection modules with dampers, especially for installation on light vehicles like BMP-3. They not only from cumulative, but also enhance protection from kinetics

      The result of the hit of a PG-9V grenade on board the BMP-2, protected by a missile defense with an EDZ 4S24. There is no penetration. Only 1 block failed., 2004
      On the BMP-3, the installation of such a kit increases protection up to protection from 30-mm shells.
    5. - = ANTRAX = -
      - = ANTRAX = - 9 January 2017 15: 14
      +1
      Well, let's wait for Kurganets-25 and for now go on foot.
    6. - = ANTRAX = -
      - = ANTRAX = - 9 January 2017 15: 14
      0
      Well, let's wait for Kurganets-25 and for now go on foot.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 January 2017 13: 33
    +1
    Here it is! Cheap and cheerful. New vehicles - they are, of course, but the modernization of the numerous armored vehicles available at the same time - at the same time, cost savings and increased firepower of motorized infantry.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 January 2017 13: 42
      +3
      But if there is no money on the BPM-3 (not to mention Kurganets), why not upgrade along with the next overhaul, this is both a modern connection and a thermal imager ....
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  6. Alexander War
    Alexander War 9 January 2017 13: 41
    +2
    The fact that Berezhok was installed on the BMP-2 is a good thing, you also need to raise the protection
    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 9 January 2017 13: 49
      +2
      The sides already hold 12,7mm plus anti-cumulative screens
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    3. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 9 January 2017 13: 57
      +2
      Poor repairmen. How much should they cook, after passing infantry light woods. I have not yet seen a car with bars, surviving after hitting the side.
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  7. demiurg
    demiurg 9 January 2017 14: 01
    +2
    To date, the BMP-2 is an armored personnel carrier. Does not hold anything from PT funds. Hanging such an expensive module on it without a sharp increase in security is a waste of money.
    And if you hang extra protection, it's weight. Accordingly, suspension enhancement and engine replacement. And what will it all be attached to? In fact, to the body with bulletproof armor.
    Right from the couch, as Wang broadcasts, throwing money.
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 9 January 2017 14: 06
      +1
      On the other hand, she will be good at taking out these anti-tank weapons and even "tanks" from long distances, reducing their number to 0, and then a motorized rifleman and the rest of non-anti-tank weapons will clean up. lol
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 January 2017 14: 32
      +2
      And what BT (medium weight) holds modern grenade launchers?
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 9 January 2017 14: 32
      +1
      And what BT (medium weight) holds modern grenade launchers?
      1. demiurg
        demiurg 9 January 2017 19: 39
        0
        Quote: Zaurbek
        And what BT (medium weight) holds modern grenade launchers?

        Bradley with body kits.

        Quote: kirgiz58
        On the other hand, she will be good at taking out these anti-tank weapons and even "tanks" from long distances, reducing their number to 0, and then a motorized rifleman and the rest of non-anti-tank weapons will clean up. lol


        You can make the fence fly. But is it necessary?
        From the BMP-2 there will be only a bare body. It’s easier to remake them into TZM, transporters, or something else.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 9 January 2017 21: 13
          0
          the question is, what would BPM ride and swim ...
  8. Alexander War
    Alexander War 9 January 2017 14: 22
    +2
    True, the module is different, but here the video is clearly with additional protection
    1. demiurg
      demiurg 9 January 2017 19: 40
      0
      Have a description? And how much is a banquet?
  9. Alexander War
    Alexander War 9 January 2017 14: 26
    +2
    Operation of the Berezh Combat Module
    1. Maz
      Maz 9 January 2017 15: 48
      +2
      Upload date: 3 Sept. 2010 of this video, he already shunned seven years ....
    2. Maz
      Maz 9 January 2017 15: 49
      +2
      Upload date: 3 Sept. 2010 of this video, he already shunned seven years .... he is already out of date
  10. Alexander War
    Alexander War 9 January 2017 14: 47
    +2
    In 2011, the company, in agreement with the Ministry of Defense of Russia and with the help of Russian enterprises, manufactured and tested armored personnel carriers with ceramic armor. The basis was taken BRDM-3, the allocated Ministry of Defense.
    The tests were more successful than expected. With a design resistance from 14,5-mm B-32 bullets from a range of 200 m, on board projections, resistance to 10 m was obtained.
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 9 January 2017 16: 30
      +2
      What I have always infuriated in the Russian defense industry is inertia. In the USA, an improvement immediately enters the troops very quickly. In Russia, in the best case, for many years, several units enter the army, and most often all ends with tests. After all, it’s stranger to change the German premium segment for officials every 3 years than to modernize during the army.
  11. Maz
    Maz 9 January 2017 15: 46
    +1
    Five years will soon be to this bank.
    Upload date for this video: 3 Sept. 2010, he had already shunned for seven years .... he is already out of date
    1. Herman
      Herman 9 January 2017 15: 50
      0
      He definitely already is 11 years old.
      The contract on them with Algeria was in 2005.
    2. Alexander War
      Alexander War 9 January 2017 15: 53
      +1
      And what, that he’s about 10 years old will be still so much the same
      1. Herman
        Herman 9 January 2017 16: 02
        0
        And the fact that progress does not stand still, and thermal imagers are constantly being improved (I'm talking about sights). And in terms of armament, it will certainly be relevant for a long time to come.
        1. Alexander War
          Alexander War 9 January 2017 16: 05
          +1
          So on Berezhka there is a modern sight
          1. Herman
            Herman 9 January 2017 16: 11
            0
            Yeah, this is the Redo SLA, it was already at BMP-2000m in 3, I hope that the sight was modernized during this time.
            1. cast iron
              cast iron 9 January 2017 18: 12
              +2
              Do you think American tanks change the matrices of thermal and infrared sights on equipment every year? Electro-optical devices "Berezhka" are fully consistent with the realities of modern war. The detection distance is quite high. Why change it?
              1. Herman
                Herman 9 January 2017 18: 32
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                About once every 10 years, in my opinion, they change.
                1. cast iron
                  cast iron 9 January 2017 21: 39
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                  This is your way. But in reality, there is an index for each modification of the US equipment, and this modification comes precisely with those SLAs and devices that were installed initially during its design. New NVDs and thermal imagers - this is another modification and a different index in the name. Everything is simple. Military appliances become obsolete more slowly than civilian ones.
                  For example, the Soviet army’s laser tank rangemeter will give odds even to a modern civilian electron-optical laser total station.
                  1. Herman
                    Herman 9 January 2017 22: 00
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                    Of course, when updating the LMS, another modification is obtained, for example, M1A2 Abrams sep v1, v2, v3.
                    Even more often than in 10 years, Americans sights are exposed.
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  12. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 9 January 2017 16: 00
    0
    Miracles and more! The Algerian army is better armed than the Russian ... at least in terms of BMP ... When thieves at the helm of the state it is not good ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 9 January 2017 16: 39
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      Quote: Former battalion commander
      Miracles and more! The Algerian army is better armed than the Russian ... at least in terms of BMP ...

      Duc ... before coming unnamed our weapons went into the service of anyone, but not of our army.
  13. Alexander War
    Alexander War 9 January 2017 16: 11
    +2
    Quote: Former Combat
    Miracles and more! The Algerian army is better armed than the Russian ... at least in terms of BMP ... When thieves at the helm of the state it is not good ...
    Is this such a joke?
  14. Alekspel
    Alekspel 9 January 2017 16: 46
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    Quote: Spade
    which RAVists consider redundant and replace with AKS-74. "They are a lady for the paratroopers, even in army warehouses they are not ..."

    RAVists themselves do not come up with anything, but clearly implement the decisions of the commanders. Unless they can give suggestions, and commanders command, of course, within the limits of standard armament and BP. So do not blame your own flaws on the RAVists (if not the sofa commander).
  15. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 9 January 2017 17: 30
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    Well, why all over the world they are always looking for the development of technology and only every time we upgrade our humpbacked Cossack without developing anything new. in spite of the fact that we have such excellent achievements
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 January 2017 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: NOC-VVS
      Well, why all over the world they are always looking for the development of technology and only every time we upgrade our humpbacked Cossack without developing anything new. in spite of the fact that we have such excellent achievements

      And at the expense of the WORLD you can in more detail ...
  16. Ishida
    Ishida 9 January 2017 20: 50
    0
    This is not bad, but it would be better to install towers with weapons from BMP-3 and BMD-4M on them. So it would be easier to maintain, and the twin 100mm and 30mm cannons with good aiming angles have proven themselves well in battles in the Caucasus ... `` Berezhok '' is a lighter system, more suitable for armored personnel carriers, and not for infantry fighting vehicles.
    1. cast iron
      cast iron 9 January 2017 21: 42
      +2
      Installation of "Bakhchi-U" on the BMP-2 is a cut of the BMP body itself. It will be much more expensive. Price is paramount in these upgrades. In fact, it is necessary to quickly bring 2000 BMP-2 to a more or less modern level, this must be done as quickly and cheaply as possible. "Berezhok" allows you to do this. Anyway, the BMP-2 is a complete story. In theory, within 10-15 years it should be massively withdrawn from the army with simultaneous replacement with new armored vehicles.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 9 January 2017 22: 03
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        Berezhok is heavier and you need a place for ammunition and AZ ... will not pull. BPM-3, when compared with BMP-2, is 1,5 times heavier and more powerful.
  17. Dinko
    Dinko 10 January 2017 04: 09
    0
    Cornet EM range up to 10000 meters!
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 11 January 2017 22: 17
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      You first find the target at 10000m. Really applicable only from a Helicopter. But from the earth, no. Cornet flies in a straight line and there are no optics on the rocket ...
  18. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 10 January 2017 10: 35
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    They are doing everything right. While the Kurganets goes to the troops, it is necessary to modernize the BMP-2, because there are a lot of them in the troops, and by increasing their combat power, you can calmly and without haste saturate the army with the latest developments. New equipment cannot appear in the troops at once and in full; there will be a gradual rearmament.
  19. commbatant
    commbatant 11 January 2017 00: 22
    +1
    In the RF Army, according to the "wiki", there are 4500 BMP-2 (of which 1500 are in storage), 7500 BMP-1 (of which 7000 are in storage), 600 BMP-3, so we can say that the main BMP in the current Russian army is the BMP-2, respectively, if all the BMP-2 are modernized within the framework of the subject of the article, then equipping the RF Army with new / modernized infantry fighting vehicles at the level of 70% of the bulk of the BMP by 2020 can only be achieved by disposing of the BMP-1, if there are mathematicians on the site, calculate how much BMP-1 must be disposed of so that the corresponding percentage of new / modernized equipment is 70% according to the rearmament program, provided:
    Option A: that the BMP-3 promise to bring up to 2020 units by 1, and upgrade 000 units. BMP-3000 (according to the most optimistic forecasts, I believe that BMP-2 will not be upgraded at the warehouse) ......
    Option B: that all BMP-3 and BMP-2 (1000 + 4500) will be presented to the military-political leadership of the country as "new" machines, and the remaining 30% (?) Are old ...
    Accordingly, logically, in order to preserve as many BMPs as possible in the NE RF (including those located in warehouses), we need a modernization program and BMP-1, but it is better to combine it (if it is technically possible and if such modernization is cost-effective) with the program modernization of the BMP-2.