APU strengthen the position. Right Sector Arrives

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The command of the ATO strengthens the previously occupied positions in the "gray" zone on the Debaltsevsky direction, Andrei Marochko, a representative of the People's Militia of the LPR, said today.

APU strengthen the position. Right Sector Arrives




“The servicemen of the 54 Brigade, who criminally occupied the settlement of Novoluganskoye (neutral zone), are carrying out engineering equipment for positions for placing heavy weapons,” said Marochko.

According to him, personnel are being transferred to the area, Tanks and artillery APU.

“We once again appeal to the representatives of the OSCE SMM (Special Monitoring Mission) demanding an impact on the political leadership of Ukraine, whose criminal mercantile interests contradict common sense and agreements on the settlement of the conflict,” - added Marochko.

In addition, a division of the Right Sector volunteer corps has been redeployed to the line of contact (the organization is banned in the Russian Federation).

“A unit of up to forty militants has been deployed to the 14 position of the mechanized brigade in the area of ​​settlements of Sizoe and the tracts of Sharov Kut. ... Despite the relative lull, our intelligence continues to record the strengthening of the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the contact line," said Marochko.

He also reported a mortar attack on the positions of the People’s Police: “The cease-fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not being observed, 3 shelling on the positions of the People’s Police in the areas of Kalinovka and Yellow was recorded in a day.”

According to the military department of the LPR, when firing at positions in the Kalinovka area of ​​the Armed Forces of Ukraine, “millimeters of 82 caliber of millimeter and grenade launchers (AGS, RPG)” were used. In the area of ​​Yellow rifle applied weapon.

In just one day, more than 20 mines and shells were fired on the territory of the Luhansk Republic.
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  1. +4
    4 January 2017 16: 24
    Tired of living or drunk ....
    1. +7
      4 January 2017 16: 31
      Quote: STARPER
      Tired of living or drunk ....

      Well, the words of Poltorak bring to life:
      As for our international partners, there are no such accusations (of violating the Minsk agreements), because they cannot actually be, since we are not violating the Minsk agreements. In general, according to the Minsk agreements, this territory (seized positions in the Svetlodar arc area - approx. “VO”) belongs to Ukraine. We carry out all our movements on our territory.
      1. +8
        4 January 2017 16: 43
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        We carry out all our movements on our territory.

        I sympathize with the Galicians ...

        How many can be taught, they don’t understand .... There, like alcohol, arrived at the Odessa port ... Again, the Bandera attack will begin to grow ...? Get ready men, shoot (squinting eyes) This drunk scum already, everything is indifferent ...
        1. +9
          4 January 2017 17: 45
          It would be someone to sympathize .. Not at all sorry ..
          Quote: STARPER
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          We carry out all our movements on our territory.

          I sympathize with the Galicians ...

          How many can be taught, they don’t understand .... There, like alcohol, arrived at the Odessa port ... Again, the Bandera attack will begin to grow ...? Get ready men, shoot (squinting eyes) This drunk scum already, everything is indifferent ...
          1. +30
            4 January 2017 18: 34
            There is a fratricidal war on the territory of our Motherland - the USSR. Slavs kill Slavs under the control of the CIA. If you have no regrets about this .... So the CIA works well ... hi
            1. +49
              4 January 2017 18: 44
              Do you offer me to sympathize with these "Slavs"? Who killed women and children in the LDNR? The Wehrmacht included national units, including Russians, Cossacks .. To sympathize with them, too? Yes, the USSR is my Motherland, I was born under Khrushchev ..And it's scary that on the territory of the once flourishing republic there is a war .. But not fratricidal! And the fight against the extreme manifestation of nationalism-Nazism .. And their ideologists, Bandera, the current Farion. Yes, not a bit sorry!
              Quote: Thomas is not a believer
              There is a fratricidal war on the territory of our Motherland - the USSR. Slavs kill Slavs under the control of the CIA. If you have no regrets about this .... So the CIA works well ... hi
              1. +20
                4 January 2017 18: 50
                I also want to add, dear .. Try with a proposal to sympathize with your brothers in the Donbass, he will turn to the Censor, or the Apostrophe .. They will tell you a lot of flattering. This is where the CIA worked successfully. hi
                Quote: 210ox
                Do you offer me to sympathize with these "Slavs"? Who killed women and children in the LDNR? The Wehrmacht included national units, including Russians, Cossacks .. To sympathize with them, too? Yes, the USSR is my Motherland, I was born under Khrushchev ..And it's scary that on the territory of the once flourishing republic there is a war .. But not fratricidal! And the fight against the extreme manifestation of nationalism-Nazism .. And their ideologists, Bandera, the current Farion. Yes, not a bit sorry!
                Quote: Thomas is not a believer
                There is a fratricidal war on the territory of our Motherland - the USSR. Slavs kill Slavs under the control of the CIA. If you have no regrets about this .... So the CIA works well ... hi
                1. +18
                  4 January 2017 19: 08
                  Quote: 210ox
                  Are you suggesting that I sympathize with these "Slavs" who killed women and children in the LPNR?

                  Are you sure that children and women in the DPR were killed by Ukrainians? Did you see it, or did you say it on "TV"?
                  Quote: 210ox
                  The Wehrmacht also included national units, including Russians, Cossacks ..

                  You will not believe, even the Jews in the Wehrmacht served ...
                  Quote: 210ox
                  Do I sympathize with them too?

                  In no case, traitors should be punished, preferably publicly in the stadium ....
                  My message, in short, is this: Foreign force is pitting the fraternal peoples of the USSR into a fratricidal war. All nations, Russians, Ukrainians, Chechens, etc. have traitors.
                  The task of normal Soviet people is to realize that the media and foreigners are trying to pit the peoples of the USSR in an internecine war.
                  That’s all ...
                  1. +17
                    4 January 2017 19: 32
                    I can realize that .. And you try to reach out to the Soviet people in the former Soviet Ukraine .. And yet. Unfortunately, the term "peoples of the USSR" does not exist anymore. So here your intentions are useless. Everything, there are no more these peoples. I have fellow students live in Ukraine, one comes from Smolensk as I am .. On Skype, they told me such nonsense, nowhere else.
                    Quote: Thomas is not a believer
                    Quote: 210ox
                    Are you suggesting that I sympathize with these "Slavs" who killed women and children in the LPNR?

                    Are you sure that children and women in the DPR were killed by Ukrainians? Did you see it, or did you say it on "TV"?
                    Quote: 210ox
                    The Wehrmacht also included national units, including Russians, Cossacks ..

                    You will not believe, even the Jews in the Wehrmacht served ...
                    Quote: 210ox
                    Do I sympathize with them too?

                    In no case, traitors should be punished, preferably publicly in the stadium ....
                    My message, in short, is this: Foreign force is pitting the fraternal peoples of the USSR into a fratricidal war. All nations, Russians, Ukrainians, Chechens, etc. have traitors.
                    The task of normal Soviet people is to realize that the media and foreigners are trying to pit the peoples of the USSR in an internecine war.
                    That’s all ...
                    1. +14
                      4 January 2017 19: 36
                      And yet. Your "disbelief" is simply outrageous after the shots in Luhansk near the administration after the attack by an attack aircraft .. Do you not believe that the so-called "Ukrainians" but simply punishers kill women and children? Can you say that we killed them?
                      Quote: 210ox
                      I can realize that .. And you try to reach out to the Soviet people in the former Soviet Ukraine .. And yet. Unfortunately, the term "peoples of the USSR" does not exist anymore. So here your intentions are useless. Everything, there are no more these peoples. I have fellow students live in Ukraine, one comes from Smolensk as I am .. On Skype, they told me such nonsense, nowhere else.
                      Quote: Thomas is not a believer
                      Quote: 210ox
                      Are you suggesting that I sympathize with these "Slavs" who killed women and children in the LPNR?

                      Are you sure that children and women in the DPR were killed by Ukrainians? Did you see it, or did you say it on "TV"?
                      Quote: 210ox
                      The Wehrmacht also included national units, including Russians, Cossacks ..

                      You will not believe, even the Jews in the Wehrmacht served ...
                      Quote: 210ox
                      Do I sympathize with them too?

                      In no case, traitors should be punished, preferably publicly in the stadium ....
                      My message, in short, is this: Foreign force is pitting the fraternal peoples of the USSR into a fratricidal war. All nations, Russians, Ukrainians, Chechens, etc. have traitors.
                      The task of normal Soviet people is to realize that the media and foreigners are trying to pit the peoples of the USSR in an internecine war.
                      That’s all ...
                      1. +11
                        4 January 2017 19: 44
                        Quote: 210ox
                        And yet. Your "disbelief" is simply outrageous after the shots in Lugansk near the administration after the attack by an attack aircraft .. Do you not believe that the so-called "Ukrainians" are simply punitive killing women and children?

                        No way, People were really killed. This is without question.
                        The question is who killed and why?
                        The fragments of the USSR deliberately and systematically try to pit in the internecine war, Nagorno-Karabakh, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Georgia, Ukraine.
                        Do these events really seem to me systematic and focused?
                      2. 0
                        5 January 2017 05: 45
                        Well, you are not quite right, my army friend lives near Lugansk and just on Ukrainian territory. Absolutely adequate person.
                    2. +9
                      4 January 2017 19: 51
                      Quote: 210ox
                      And you try to reach out to the Soviet people in the former Soviet Ukraine ..

                      Media work in Ukraine and the Russian Federation! Bleed peoples, but this can be successfully resisted !!!!
                      Quote: 210ox
                      And one more thing. Unfortunately, the term "peoples of the USSR" no longer exists.

                      Well, for some it may not exist, and those who have not refused to consider themselves citizens of the USSR make up a large percentage of the population of the Russian Federation and its environs. it's just that it’s forbidden to talk about it on TV, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t :)))
                      1. +9
                        4 January 2017 19: 58
                        When is it all over. when will it be fashionable to push them through the horns to the fullest, or is it necessary to wait for a disaster? Maybe it's time?
                      2. +7
                        4 January 2017 21: 26
                        Porridge from your thoughts, it seems - pearl barley.
                      3. +11
                        4 January 2017 22: 49
                        What kind of Soviet people, what are you talking about? You operate with the categories of the 80s of the last century ... Over the past years, as a result of the creeping, and now hurricane banderization, falsification of history, multiplied by unprecedented impoverishment, oligarchization and criminalization of the population brought out such a homunculus-haters of the whole Russian that they will give a head start and " forest brothers "and other scum ...
                      4. +1
                        5 January 2017 09: 09
                        Quote: Thomas is not a believer
                        Well, for some it may not exist, and those who have not refused to consider themselves citizens of the USSR make up a large percentage of the population of the Russian Federation and its environs. it's just that it’s forbidden to talk about it on TV, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t :)))

                        The fact that even in Russia a large percentage of those who consider themselves citizens of the USSR are nonsense in which you want to believe and no more. I, too, was born in the USSR, but the USSR is no longer there, and no matter how you twist it with a golem of nostalgia! look at what age the radical population of Ukraine is mainly young people with brainwashed for 25 years, those young people with their youthful maximalism that the older generation, who are ardently nostalgic for the USSR, can no longer hold back and convince. That's the great job of the CIA! Waiting for Natsik in Ukraine to change their minds is useless!
                        And why did you get the idea that they forbid us to say anything there? Esli that among Russians many consider themselves to be a citizen of a now defunct state is something that they don’t say right. otherwise you might think that some Russians have a split personality and psychological problems.
                    3. +5
                      4 January 2017 21: 59
                      And one more thing. Unfortunately, the term "peoples of the USSR" no longer exists.

                      For you, it may not exist. Even in higher educational institutions (including the military), there is an old proverb, "There is a black sheep in the family."
                  2. +2
                    4 January 2017 20: 33
                    the message is clear, but what to do?
                    1. +7
                      4 January 2017 21: 34
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      the message is clear, but what to do?


                      To think, understand, explain to others .... The more people will understand what is happening, the easier it will be to fix!
                      1. +2
                        4 January 2017 22: 09
                        hard to explain when they kill
                      2. +12
                        5 January 2017 02: 04
                        Thomas
                        You are either an incorrigible altruist, or a naive romantic. To whom and what are you going to explain? For 25 years, the Ukrainian population has been cultivated, history has been changed, concepts have been replaced - and you decided to take and cancel everything right away? No, that doesn't happen. And there the population grew, confident that the Russian Federation was an aggressor, that it was the Russian Federation that always prevented Ukraine from living.
                        Look, finally, there is on YouTube how they support their war in Donbass - from school fairs to "grandma's battalions" - look ... Are you going to explain something to them? Well, if only by the method of Academician Pavlov, not otherwise.
                        Thus, there can only be one recipe for Ukraine: cut out a cancerous tumor (under zero) and turn on media of a different orientation. And wait for the result in 20-25 years, no less.
                        Go, explain to "Azov", forward and with a song.
                        And first, go to their "censor" with your explanations ...
                  3. +10
                    4 January 2017 22: 41
                    Their heroes are Shukhevych, Bandera and other rot. In cities and villages, streets and squares are named after these garoys. They believe in, imitate. Unfortunately, in Ukraine half of the population is ready to kill, without any pity and remorse of people who do not agree with this ideology. And this is a terrible truth. In communicating with former fellow citizens of Ukraine, I know about this. It is impossible to win back!
                    1. +9
                      4 January 2017 23: 17
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      Their heroes are Shukhevych, Bandera and other rot. In cities and villages, streets and squares are named after these garoys.

                      Who is "THEM"? Who are they to blame for everything?
                      We also have a monument to Gaidar which Egor, the traitor, opened and who built the Yeltsin Center? THEY too? Dill and the State Department?
                      But did they also award the order to Chubais and Alisher Usmanov?
                      1. +4
                        5 January 2017 08: 21
                        But we do not run around the hailstones and villages with Gaidar's "ensigns" Moreover, they consider them scoundrels and traitors. The fact that this "memorial of betrayal" was opened is to our rulers, and not to the people. the people "(in quotation marks because this rabble cannot be called a people) raised themselves" heroes "
                        Quote: Thomas is not a believer
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        Their heroes are Shukhevych, Bandera and other rot. In cities and villages, streets and squares are named after these garoys.

                        Who is "THEM"? Who are they to blame for everything?
                        We also have a monument to Gaidar which Egor, the traitor, opened and who built the Yeltsin Center? THEY too? Dill and the State Department?
                        But did they also award the order to Chubais and Alisher Usmanov?
                      2. +4
                        5 January 2017 08: 41
                        And, you do not know whose heroes are Shukhevych and Bandera? Do not you understand what I wrote about? Comparisons with our "liberal-reformers" are not correct! Not Chubais, not Gaidar, did not call to kill Jews and Muscovites, did not kill Poles. Our people are themselves in pursuit of glass beads and fiery
                    2. +1
                      5 January 2017 09: 21
                      You are out of luck with communication.
              2. +2
                4 January 2017 22: 57
                Kremlin propaganda worked?
            2. +14
              4 January 2017 20: 52
              Thomas is not a believer Today, 01:34 ↑ New
              There is a fratricidal war on the territory of our Motherland - the USSR. Slavs kill Slavs under the control of the CIA. If you have no regrets about this .... So the CIA works well ...

              Judging by the statements of "Unbeliever Thomas" - an obvious banderlog. They usually cheat those who want to be cheated themselves. What, the Internet is gone, they don't know how to use search engines?
              All excuses, for the same.
              Personally, in my opinion, de bil died is good. It is bad that at the same time normal, decent people in New Russia die. That's what I'm sorry about.
              1. +12
                4 January 2017 21: 28
                If it was possible to put a minus to you, then I would put it, without protecting in any way Thomas, it became interesting how you "judge" so clearly
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Judging by the statements of "Unbeliever Thomas" - an obvious banderlog.
                who can be who.
                Quote: Vasilyev u
                All excuses, for the same.
                And where did you get the idea that someone was getting off,
                Quote: Vasilyev u
                Usually, those who want to be duped are usually deceived. What, the Internet is gone, do not know how to use search engines?

                Did you hear the term information blockade?
                1. +5
                  4 January 2017 21: 37
                  I'm stupid? I don’t understand something?
                  Information blockade? An unfamiliar Internet word? Stupidly not go into the Google search engine, is the problem big?
                  Why am I stupid to explain? Smart and without me understood everything, stupid, and after my explanations will blame me and Russia.
                  1. +3
                    4 January 2017 21: 52
                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    Stupidly not go into the Google search engine, is the problem big?
                    tea is not the 18th century, and Google, like other search engines of the mind, will not add
                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    and after my explanation
                    ??
                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    will blame me and Russia
                    what are you talking about?
              2. +4
                4 January 2017 21: 31
                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Judging by the statements of "Unbeliever Thomas" - an obvious banderlog.

                Dear Vasiliev, I do not quite understand what the newfangled word "banderlog" means. For me, as a Soviet man, this is a monkey, easily suggestible from the cartoon "Mowgli". So I do not agree that I am a banderlog. I do not succumb to the suggestion of the media, on the contrary, I try to critically interpret the information.

                Quote: vasiliev yu
                Personally, in my opinion, de bil died is good. It is bad that at the same time normal, decent people in New Russia die.

                Well, what’s the contradiction with my comment ??? request
                1. +5
                  4 January 2017 22: 00
                  Well, Kipling's banderlogs are well described. Read, do not look at the cartoon, but read it, everything is exactly written there. Then all questions will disappear.
                  1. +1
                    4 January 2017 23: 20
                    Quote: vasiliev yu
                    Well, Kipling's banderlogs are well described.


                    Kipling has many works, which one do you specifically mean? I won’t re-read Kipling, there’s not enough free time ... hi
                2. +3
                  5 January 2017 08: 24
                  While you will critically interpret the situation, your children (God forbid, of course, can become anyone, but just not the kind of person you want to see them) Newly-born Oblomov ... what
                  Quote: Thomas is not a believer
                  Quote: vasiliev yu
                  Judging by the statements of "Unbeliever Thomas" - an obvious banderlog.

                  Dear Vasiliev, I do not quite understand what the newfangled word "banderlog" means. For me, as a Soviet man, this is a monkey, easily suggestible from the cartoon "Mowgli". So I do not agree that I am a banderlog. I do not succumb to the suggestion of the media, on the contrary, I try to critically interpret the information.

                  Quote: vasiliev yu
                  Personally, in my opinion, de bil died is good. It is bad that at the same time normal, decent people in New Russia die.

                  Well, what’s the contradiction with my comment ??? request
                3. +2
                  5 January 2017 11: 28
                  "Unbeliever" is written together, because it is an adjective with the prefix "not".
              3. +3
                5 January 2017 11: 44
                Yes, this site of these banderlogs has a whole deployed company. They decided that most of them decided to teach others, because 30 pieces of silver need to be worked out. The most important of them under the nickname is “stump”, he most of all tears his own.
                1. +1
                  6 January 2017 08: 44
                  pts-m You know, for me, this is a real banderlog in our country, it’s the one who includes the stupid one and supposedly doesn’t understand what they’ve done to Ukraine! And he’s tearing tonsils on the resources which Ukrainians are our enemies!
            3. +2
              5 January 2017 00: 59
              Unfortunately, the CIA works very well ... and even found a weak spot in the form of Ukrainians who had long been deported for such a thing.
            4. +4
              5 January 2017 02: 19
              Ukraine is a state hostile to Russia. Potential "likely enemy". I am much more sympathetic to the allied Kazakh than these, even in places Russian-speaking, shit (APU, etc.)
            5. +1
              5 January 2017 02: 48
              After 14 years, no! And not the CIA in our White House crap dried! And on the peaceful people at the stops too!
        2. +6
          4 January 2017 21: 30
          I will greatly surprise you if I say that the "Galicians" are a minority there. Look at at least a video with interrogation of prisoners, there are a lot of them on the network, you can see very clearly who is there. Maybe in this DUK somehow differently (although not a fact), but in percentage terms they practically do not play a role.
          1. +4
            5 January 2017 06: 37
            I completely agree with you .. Sits such a "Russian-speaking" without work, and maybe with work .. Life is hard, Crimea is gone, in Donbass they don’t want to live with the last of Bandera-Shukhevych .. A goofy friend with a red and black flag down the street running around, talking ... Yes, and on TV, enemies, all around Moscow enemies ... This is how the worldview of millions of residents is formed on the Square ... If a person even once picked up a machine gun and went to kill neighbors, then this is not a Ukrainian (in fact I can agree with Foma) Yes, this is not a Ukrainian, but a bandit!
            Quote: alexmach
            I will greatly surprise you if I say that the "Galicians" are a minority there. Look at at least a video with interrogation of prisoners, there are a lot of them on the network, you can see very clearly who is there. Maybe in this DUK somehow differently (although not a fact), but in percentage terms they practically do not play a role.
        3. +4
          5 January 2017 06: 55
          There are no Galicians in the 54th brigade. It is assigned to the Donetsk region, it was created from several former terbats, and then renamed motorized infantry battalions. In theory, it consists of locals. Almost all of them are Russian and ideological. Ideological Natsik, not Bandera. The Banderites in the ATO were represented by the OUN battalion, in which there were as many as 30 snouts and the cops' sich volunteer battalion from members of the Bandera Svoboda party.
          As for law enforcement, it is also doubtful. They with the front line have long moved to Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk. In the ATO zone, only a couple of mouths hang out - snouting 200 in total. To the whole front. If all the reports are folded, then this pair of companies has already been destroyed 10 times. Just like dill, our army right up to the Kremlin regiment is destroyed for the tenth time. belay
          Most likely some ordinary motorcyclists from former terbats were driven.
        4. 0
          5 January 2017 13: 16
          Yes, Galicians especially do not want to participate in the ATO. They are somehow more found in Poland, Italy or on construction sites near Moscow.
      2. +6
        4 January 2017 17: 42
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        In general, according to the Minsk agreements, this territory (seized positions in the Svetlodar arc area - approx. “VO”) belongs to Ukraine

        Poltorashkin considers these territories to be dill by agreement Minsk-1, and not Minsk-2, and it scratches with its vile language. hi
        1. +11
          4 January 2017 19: 18
          Quote: 79807420129
          Poltorashkin considers these territories to be dill by agreement Minsk-1, and not Minsk-2, and it scratches with its vile language. hi

          Yes, he cares - the agreement Minsk 1 or 2. He did not read them, the banderlog is illiterate.
          1. +1
            5 January 2017 12: 50
            Have you read? Did the line of demarcation change there?
    2. +19
      4 January 2017 16: 37
      I’ll tell you about the grouping of the Armed Forces of the opposing army of the DPR.
      Here is the map for December 2015

      According to DNR intelligence, as of December 2016, the Armed Forces of Ukraine concentrated at the contact line:
      32438 people personnel 213 tanks, 1154 armored vehicles, 351 artillery mounts 122-mm and 152-mm, 198 units of 120 and 82-mm mortars, 84 units of MLRS .. "

      As you can see, the personnel are reduced by 3 times, by tanks by 2,5 times, and by armored vehicles by 2 times.
      1. +2
        4 January 2017 17: 55
        What a zrada zrada ... Again, the very last and final plan of the great break from ukrov stole ...)
        1. +2
          5 January 2017 03: 54
          And the Right Sector is sent to prepare for disposal. Right Sect there is the role of barriers. units plays, but there is one BUT. At the earliest opportunity, the VSUshniki will give the DLNR army the coordinates of the location of the submarine and, with the next exchange of artillery shells, they will immediately be turned into dust. So PS are the first in line and HELL.
      2. +12
        4 January 2017 18: 40
        I agree. Concentration of troops from the "about nothing" series. It is all the more important not to give them an inch. So that hopelessness creeps into souls. And work out the counter-battery fight. Stifle everything that shoots towards the LPNR, so that even p ... And our officers - the artillerymen - are of great benefit to practice in counter-battery combat in real combat conditions.
        As an old artilleryman, I am surprised by the extremely low fire efficiency of the Ukrop artillery. It is as if most of the management officers specifically hit wastelands and other objects. Barrel artillery is a terribly effective and accurate weapon. To destroy some substation whose coordinates are known is a matter of minutes for a battery. It is good that the top leadership of Bandera does not understand this. Otherwise, they would have put these officers - almost all. I do not believe that such a low accuracy is associated with poor preparation. During the time that they’re peeling, they’ll simply have to destroy half a city.
        1. +4
          4 January 2017 20: 20
          So they are doing brilliantly to destroy some kind of substation or school. We had the "joy" to watch more than once!
          Yes, civilians in Donbass have already realized that they often fire harassing fire, like "get out of here." But, God forbid, they will hit in full force, then we will have a complete fucking! And Moscow will show you our suffering on TV. And that's all. Would turn on brains, old gunman.
        2. +1
          4 January 2017 20: 43
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          I, as an old artilleryman, are surprised by the extremely low fire efficiency of the Ukrop artillery

          Judging by how they are fighting, then nothing surprising. The Armed Forces of Ukraine is not an army, but a caricature. Fortunately, advisers from the USA have been steering the country for 25 years. Firstly, for artillerymen to be able to shoot, they need to be taught theoretically before the service and regular exercises should be carried out in units, and secondly, you need to keep the equipment in order and provide it with appropriate service. One can argue for anything that neither the first nor the second has been done.
          1. +8
            4 January 2017 21: 01
            APU is not an army, but a caricature,

            He is inclined to think that as far back as 1943 about the Red Army, in Germany they thought the same. No need to throw the enemy caps, and even from the couch.
            1. +1
              4 January 2017 21: 42
              Quote: IrbenWolf
              in 1943 about the Red Army, in Germany they thought the same

              In 1943 they no longer thought, because they could be convinced of its fighting efficiency. APU have already shown themselves in past battles, so my opinion is based on very specific examples. Of course, there is a chance that since then something has changed a lot, but a very small probability.
              1. 0
                5 January 2017 07: 52
                We will not enter into historical disputes. No one gives a guarantee that the current year will not be the same in 1943 (with its Kursk).

                One big success and understanding of the APU can radically change.
                1. +1
                  5 January 2017 08: 29
                  Quote: IrbenWolf
                  No one guarantees that the current year will not be

                  Yes, no one gives guarantees. But judging by the one who runs Ukraine, I doubt it very much.
          2. +2
            5 January 2017 02: 28
            You need to calmly study the enemy. We can find out who the caricature is only after a real full-scale clash, using everything that is in service. I really hope that it will do without WMD.
          3. 0
            5 January 2017 21: 58
            "Expert", it's as easy as shelling pears, to come to the LPR, for example, to Stakhanov / LPR / or Horlivka / DPR / and live here for 2-3 days. At the same time, grab the diapers. So you will find out who is ready and how, how he shoots, where and why!
        3. +2
          5 January 2017 01: 10
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          I, as an old artilleryman, are surprised by the extremely low fire efficiency of the Ukrop artillery

          Ask yourself: where do we get information about the artillery effectiveness of the warring parties? From the opposite side. What objectivity can there be ?! And this applies not only to artillery. How many times in three years, even here on the site, materials were published about the situation in the database area, which were later refuted by reality.
        4. +1
          5 January 2017 12: 58
          Everything is fine, but what about the number of troops from the republics? She probably is not a constant either.
          And as for the gunners, don’t you assume that there are people there too, and they don’t set themselves the goal of destroying the infrastructure?
          1. 0
            5 January 2017 21: 53
            It is the infrastructure of the DLNR that the artillery of the APU destroys from time to time. E / Sub first!
            1. +1
              5 January 2017 22: 15
              the third year they destroy from time to time and still have not been razed to the ground, even in the frontline? Not to mention, for example, the substation in the city of Happiness.
              1. 0
                7 January 2017 14: 58
                In Happiness there is not an electric substation, but a TPP (Lugansk TPP). This is already on their Ukrainian territory. So why on earth would they destroy themselves to their detriment?
      3. +2
        4 January 2017 20: 08
        Quote: Sith Lord
        As you can see, the personnel are reduced by 3 times, by tanks by 2,5 times, and by armored vehicles by 2 times.

        And, which is typical, the MLRS - three times. A year ago, still "Tochka-U" flashed. Was she brushed aside?
      4. +2
        4 January 2017 22: 37
        Just a sequel to New Adventures of the Elusive ... Was the password on the safe 2014?
      5. 0
        5 January 2017 00: 05
        The offensive plan depicted on the map is similar to the 2014 summer offensive operation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as a result of which "boilers" (with border and combined-arms units of the Armed Forces) appeared along the border with the Russian Federation.
        They also wanted to cut off the DLNR from the Russian border and destroy the units of Novorossia with cleaving strikes and take strategic n.p., airports, hub stations, etc. into the ring.
        The Ukrainian Armed Forces, both in summer and in winter, got into "boilers", why did you decide that everything will work out now?
        Yes, the current Armed Forces are more experienced than two years ago, but only in the DLNR, which are also no longer volunteer units, but a regular army, which does not need any military and tactical forces, fuels and lubricants, uniforms, etc. DLNR has a global pantry behind one of the most powerful and efficient armies on the planet ...
    3. +4
      4 January 2017 16: 39
      Everyone is waiting for a large-scale offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the BCH? There will be neither one nor the other.
    4. +4
      4 January 2017 17: 06
      But when will it die, is it the Ukrainian ATO command?
      1. +12
        4 January 2017 17: 38
        Quote: Petr1
        But when will it die, is it the Ukrainian ATO command?

        It will die in its bed, stinking of elite alcohol, but natskarateli and other pork army will die in the trenches fertilizing black soil. Yes
      2. +4
        4 January 2017 20: 36
        when, from our side, finally, a weighty argument arrives, so as not worse than in Syria
    5. +4
      4 January 2017 17: 12
      So, they take an example from their drunken prezik. Forever crumpled and forever drunk. What kind of pop is such a parish.
    6. +1
      4 January 2017 19: 45
      Quote: STARPER
      Tired of living or drunk ....

      Along the way, and tired of living drunk. Their minds will not increase in the near future.
      Not any logic in the actions of the uccrcrops. And what kind of brains can dill have?
    7. SSR
      0
      5 January 2017 10: 06
      Quote: STARPER
      Tired of living or drunk ....

      Are you talking about a bunch of psecks?
  2. +8
    4 January 2017 16: 27
    After all, they still occupied .. And in the messages they said that they knocked out to the positions held before.
    1. SSR
      0
      5 January 2017 10: 08
      Quote: 210ox
      After all, they still occupied .. And in the messages they said that they knocked out to the positions held before.

      it is a gray zone and gray in Africa, it is more obvious to its own people that they repulsed something. imha.
  3. +1
    4 January 2017 16: 28
    These from the right sector are striving for the lower sector. Yes and I am very glad to send them there.
    1. +17
      4 January 2017 16: 31
      Quote: Alexander 3
      These from the right sector are striving for the lower sector. Yes and I am very glad to send them there.

      1. +7
        4 January 2017 16: 37
        Tagiryan, welcome! hi These Svidomosaurs already like spiders in the bank! lol
        1. +8
          4 January 2017 16: 56
          Good afternoon Pavel! Ukrogabon cherishes the dream of repeating the "Croatian" version, but the Serbs in Krajina had a much smaller population and Russia was not around. At the same time, the Croats did not plunder their budget.
          1. +7
            4 January 2017 17: 01
            Nothing will come of these hapuns. The bananich will soon fall down, and Trump will close the feeder for them (if he doesn’t lie. Well, can’t he lie all the time?)! lol
            1. +2
              4 January 2017 17: 31
              He is a businessman. And if businessmen themselves begin to violate their obligations and agreements, they do not become millionaires and billionaires (does not apply to OUR nouveau riches, ours only know how to rattle).
            2. +6
              4 January 2017 19: 12
              Pavel, about Trump, I carefully look at his promises .. Politics is a dirty thing ..
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              Nothing will come of these hapuns. The bananich will soon fall down, and Trump will close the feeder for them (if he doesn’t lie. Well, can’t he lie all the time?)! lol
              1. +7
                4 January 2017 19: 41
                Pavel, about Trump, I carefully look at his promises .. Politics is a dirty thing ..

                Dmitry, I, too, do not radiate holy faith in Trump. Politics are not only dirty, but also corrupt. And Trump is a businessman, that says it all ...
          2. +3
            4 January 2017 20: 16
            But we in the DLNR are not at all sure that in the event of an attack by Kiev, Moscow will crawl forward, stand up for "smaller brothers." Moreover, this will mean fighting within the boundaries of large cities - Donetsk, Gorlovka, Makeevka, Lugansk, Alchevsk, Stakhanov, Krasnodon, etc. (see on the map!) This will lead to huge casualties among the civilian population and the military. So who cares? Should we be cellar dwellers or you, to receive an infinite number of funerals? Moreover, the West will not surrender Ukraine! Therefore, everything hangs by a thread, in "gray".
            1. 0
              4 January 2017 21: 47
              The fact that you are not sure about it is in vain. I already wrote about this, at least for the last time to show my strength to Russia to the banderlogs (obamychu and powder) - it is very desirable. I think with a large-scale attack, ours will transfer serious equipment (of course, not without a crew), just the banderlogs got everyone, and with the advent of Trump, there will be at least disturbances.
              1. 0
                4 January 2017 21: 52
                I’m sorry, I didn’t drink a single drop of alcohol on New Year’s, but now it’s rolled something and I rolled a bottle of wine into one, there’s no particular desire to globalize for the General Staff.
              2. +1
                4 January 2017 23: 10
                After the Malaysian Boeing, I think the desire to transfer equipment to the LPR will no longer arise. They haven’t disbanded yet and the guilty have not yet been punished.
            2. 0
              4 January 2017 21: 50
              Gerasim Donskoy Of course he won’t surrender, he will fight until the last Ukrainian!
        2. +1
          4 January 2017 20: 13
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Tagiryan, welcome! hi These Svidomosaurs already like spiders in the bank! lol

          These are all. Along the way, exactly political corpses will become in the next 10-15 years. (if only political corpses, of course, dill do not know what they are doing. Yesterday only Savchenko was a hero, today she turned out to be a spy of the Kremlin. And these are spies for a long time, though it is not known yet who? wassat )
  4. +2
    4 January 2017 16: 30
    If the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not transferred the artillery attacks of the LPNR in the area of ​​the occupied territories, then it is necessary to "feed" further until the svidomye run away. There are no other "arguments".
    1. +2
      4 January 2017 20: 09
      Oh, just don't blah blah. On the line of contact, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are sitting in the UR. It just hissed and crashed, everything was already in shelters. By the way, they quickly organize a response. Only most often, not by "colleagues from the military shop", but by peaceful quarters. They are not going to run anywhere. Moreover, the DLNR has no strength to knock them out, despite the loud statements. That is why they flee with complaints to the OSCE.
      1. +3
        4 January 2017 22: 42
        How can there be no strength? !!))) Vaughn Zakharchenko has already swung at London ... Kiev seemed a little ... However, some warlord back in the 70 years ago met with the capital Aglitskaya ...
  5. +4
    4 January 2017 17: 00
    "We once again appeal to the representatives of the OSCE SMM (Special Monitoring Mission) with a demand to influence the political leadership of Ukraine, whose criminal mercantile interests contradict common sense and agreements on the settlement of the conflict," added Marochko. "--- Yes, at least for please contact. This is the same corrupt trash.
  6. +5
    4 January 2017 17: 18
    Well, the APU should do it. A breakthrough does not work, they will crush and seep, by a meter, by ten ... In trench warfare, they did it, the assault groups were invented by the Germans in WWI, they infiltrated into the forward positions, captured the first trench. Then they pulled up other parts and fastened them. Losses will be significant, but dill does not spare its own. It is important for them that the war "does not end" - the war is waged - "for exhaustion."
  7. +2
    4 January 2017 17: 18
    The Galitians again beguiled the shores. Civilians only feel sorry.
    1. +3
      4 January 2017 19: 59
      Quote: Vitalson
      The Galitians again beguiled the shores. Civilians only feel sorry.

      Where does this stamp about "Galichan" come from? More than half of the combatants in the ATO are Russian-speaking. This can be seen in almost all videos from the scene.
      1. +1
        5 January 2017 02: 36
        Comrades! Galician is it or Russian-speaking, what's the difference. G.vno and vvno, why sort it ?!
  8. +4
    4 January 2017 19: 10
    On both sides, it’s not a big deal anymore. They take news from each other, change places and last names, and the report is ready.
  9. +6
    4 January 2017 20: 02
    In general, these statements are the moanings of our defenders from the headquarters of the LPR People’s People's Republic of Lithuania. So why give? And if they retreated, then the enemy is stronger! That's all the arithmetic and grammar of the battle. Kiev does not play any truce, unlike the patron from the Kremlin. He grabs piece by piece like a hyena.
    What is the answer? Complaints-pleas of Lugansk and Donetsk in the OSCE, to which the great player, "outplayed everyone", encourages them. And then we here do not know what this bawdy office is.
  10. 0
    4 January 2017 20: 48
    It’s even ridiculous to address real aggressors: I understand: “legally, supposedly what” they want
    1. 0
      4 January 2017 20: 51
      The tablet is full of hell, it's useless to say something. Or maybe it's not in the tablet? Or maybe you are hurt here?
  11. +1
    4 January 2017 20: 51
    Quote: Paranoid50
    Quote: Sith Lord
    As you can see, the personnel are reduced by 3 times, by tanks by 2,5 times, and by armored vehicles by 2 times.

    And, which is typical, the MLRS - three times. A year ago, still "Tochka-U" flashed. Was she brushed aside?

    Not at all. "Points" were removed from conservation. How many - xs. If all this zhahnet, we will drown in blood, and "gorants" will express extreme concern later.
  12. +1
    4 January 2017 20: 55
    In LDNR, 30 people cannot be found who are ready to destroy the leaders and members of the right-wing sector and other unaups nonsense in the territory of Ukryny. Or recruit. It would reduce the number of people wishing to shoot at civilians in the Donbass.
  13. +2
    4 January 2017 21: 25
    cniza,
    Quote: cniza
    When is it all over. when will it be fashionable to push them through the horns to the fullest, or is it necessary to wait for a disaster? Maybe it's time?


    To answer your question, first of all, you need to understand, and to whom THEM? Who exactly should be hit "on the horns" :? Ukrainians, Russians, Americans, the Russian government, the US government, the Ukrainian government. They are all different people ...
  14. +2
    4 January 2017 21: 29
    There is a simple cut dough. Alas, it was like that with us ... War is the most profitable. The end is not visible ... alas.
  15. +2
    4 January 2017 21: 35
    Quote: Chaos
    In LDNR, 30 people cannot be found who are ready to destroy the leaders and members of the right-wing sector and other unaups nonsense in the territory of Ukryny. Or recruit. It would reduce the number of people wishing to shoot at civilians in the Donbass.

    Yeah. And then the UNs and other OSCE officials recognize LDNR as terrorist organizations? Here, U. Chaos, and so the game is one-goal.
    1. 0
      4 January 2017 21: 50
      You, Methane, are all careful comments)))
      Anecdote: There are two bulls on a hill old and young. In a lowland in a meadow, cows graze. The young bull says to the old one - let's run from the hill and jump on the cows.
      the old bull says - but don’t, scare it off, let's go around, make an ambush, come closer and will certainly jump. It is clear which bulls you belong to)))
      1. +2
        4 January 2017 22: 19
        . It is clear which bulls you belong to)))

        Chaos is good! Here, and so you are still sick with your jokes. Here flies into your yard 152 (God forbid) will not laugh. Here will end the mess, then together we will laugh with pleasure if we live ...
        1. +1
          5 January 2017 02: 47
          If the danger to life is real, then move to Russia. Why torture yourself? Bulk work, decent decent, even housing will give.
  16. 0
    4 January 2017 22: 03
    Here came the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the real occupants of Donbass (as the Waltzman himself called them in his address), and not a fictitious "Russian occupation". Well, he added then that it temporarily means soon they will try on wooden coats.
  17. +2
    4 January 2017 22: 17
    Quote: Chaos
    You, Methane, are all careful comments)))
    Anecdote: There are two bulls on a hill old and young. In a lowland in a meadow, cows graze. The young bull says to the old one - let's run from the hill and jump on the cows.
    the old bull says - but don’t, scare it off, let's go around, make an ambush, come closer and will certainly jump. It is clear which bulls you belong to)))


    According to its chemical properties, "gas-methane" is not much different from the gases emitted by a person in the course of his life (except for the smell (Methane has no color or smell. For industrial purposes, for its use, gas is "aromatized"). Another name is known - "swamp gas." "Methane" - naive, like a student from the faculty of the SBU. Or they have such "coursework"?
  18. +1
    4 January 2017 22: 21
    Natsik pulled to be a blood bath, it is not good.
  19. +1
    4 January 2017 22: 50
    Quote: German Titov
    Quote: Chaos
    You, Methane, are all careful comments)))
    Anecdote: There are two bulls on a hill old and young. In a lowland in a meadow, cows graze. The young bull says to the old one - let's run from the hill and jump on the cows.
    the old bull says - but don’t, scare it off, let's go around, make an ambush, come closer and will certainly jump. It is clear which bulls you belong to)))


    According to its chemical properties, "gas-methane" is not much different from the gases emitted by a person in the course of his life (except for the smell (Methane has no color or smell. For industrial purposes, for its use, gas is "aromatized"). Another name is known - "swamp gas." "Methane" - naive, like a student from the faculty of the SBU. Or they have such "coursework"?

    Don't be clever - (((. And what is there in the SBU and what "coursework" there are, I don't know, I haven't been.
  20. +1
    4 January 2017 23: 01
    President Poroshenko needs to keep them as far away from Kiev as possible. Let them be pocket Nazis but they can attack from the back.
  21. +2
    5 January 2017 00: 21
    alavrin,
    Have you tried writing scripts for horror films?
  22. 0
    5 January 2017 00: 43
    Quote: Thomas is not a believer
    There is a fratricidal war on the territory of our Motherland - the USSR. Slavs kill Slavs under the control of the CIA. If you have no regrets about this .... So the CIA works well ... hi

    That's right. A large-scale provocation against the Russian Federation is being prepared before the change of administration in the United States. And the Slavs will die.
    1. +2
      5 January 2017 02: 54
      What is the difference: Slavs or not Slavs? Type Tatars or Tuvans can not worry? Near the borders of multinational Russia are fighting. The primary task of the leadership so that hostilities do not spread to our territory. The rest is secondary.
    2. +1
      5 January 2017 02: 57
      Any war is terrible! The death of any civilian is a tragedy!
  23. sl3
    +1
    5 January 2017 00: 58
    Losers, gopniks from the gateway, pravoseki. Ready vazilin.
    1. +3
      5 January 2017 01: 31
      Quote: sl3
      Losers, gopniks from the gateway, pravoseki. Ready vazilin.

      The great and terrible sl3, over the past year, people on the site have changed - in frankly moronic comments you won’t become a general anymore (((So, if you want more pluses, retype slogans or quotes from statements by officials. Take the example of Gromova. She’s only ideologically seasoned articles, no derogation from the stamps of senior media, and voila - success in person)))
      1. 0
        6 January 2017 10: 55
        Envy is a sin.)))
  24. +3
    5 January 2017 01: 00
    Close the border of the Russian Federation with Banderostan and deport all Bandera to their homeland!
    1. +1
      5 January 2017 06: 00
      And how will you determine who is Bandera and who is not? I was laid in the bathroom and toilet by a Ukrainian, a perfectly normal person, who came to us because there is no work there, so what? Hang a Banderavets sign on his back? Well, not all of them are blocked there !!!
      1. +2
        5 January 2017 07: 55
        Just yesterday, one Ukrainian wrote that he was supposedly normal, supposedly a peaceful resident and immediately wrote that he had a friend in the ATO, whom he considers a hero ... Here is the answer to your question!
  25. +3
    5 January 2017 04: 45
    You know, I'm already tired of reading comments, from which the effect, that of a "bunch" in a hurricane ... No.
    Why should you shake the air when Russia, in its foreign policy on the LPR and the DPR, has decided to be a distant relative involved ... I do not care about the opinion of those who believe that civilians should be killed for dissent alone ... They do not give a damn about the new Nazism , and we weren’t afraid of the old one, we would crush these ... like nits, if necessary ... I have never seen an open dialogue between representatives of the Russian Federation, LNR and DNR with the press, which would explain the prospect of their further coexistence. What do these republics want? What does Russia want?
    And a constant statement of facts, lowering to the level of an information agency .. So someone needs this ... sad
  26. 0
    5 January 2017 05: 04
    Piglet wants to breathe in before death.
  27. 0
    5 January 2017 05: 43
    Ukraine still has an advantage in resources, economic and human. No matter how she fell apart. Therefore, the APU simply exhaust the BCH. And Russia will not be so active in helping, trying to freeze everything. Although we will never know the management plans for sure.
  28. +1
    5 January 2017 05: 54
    Skeptic Self-Taught,
    But something must be done! Water, stone wears away, it is necessary to hollow and hollow in the same place. Start a war? So they only achieve this, I would not have had patience for a long time! How else do ours have?
  29. +1
    5 January 2017 06: 40
    Quote: yuriy55
    Why should you shake the air when Russia, in its foreign policy on the LPR and the DPR, has identified itself as a related distant relative ...

    Yes, in the news on the front pages ... Syria ... Syria. And in the Donbass people, the worse ???
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  31. +2
    5 January 2017 09: 33
    In the comments, one of the commenters advises reading Kipling. Very good advice. It is a pity that most ignore it.
  32. 0
    5 January 2017 09: 55
    In the title picture is the execution of the order-Hide fat!