Ukroboronprom announced the imminent start of the release of American lethal weapons in Ukraine

There is an answer to the question of how Ukraine can get American weapon soon. Recall that for a long time, American President Obama blocked the initiative to send US-made lethal weapons to Ukraine. Now the information comes from Kiev that Ukrainian manufacturing enterprises are ready to start production of American weapons under a license granted by the USA.

Initially, negotiations touched on the production of the American M16 assault rifles. These negotiations and consultations are currently being conducted by the Ukrainian company Ukroboronservice with Aeroscraft, which received the appropriate license from the US administration.

The head of the Ukrainian concern Sergey Mykytyuk:

The first weapon that the pilot project will be made in Ukraine will be the M16 automatic rifle. The manufacture of weapons according to the NATO standard is part of the development and reform of the Ukrainian defense industry.

At the same time, Mikityuk said that we are talking about the WAC47 model (such a model for production in Ukraine is indicated on the website of the Ukroboronprom state concern).

During the presentation, it was stated that the WAC47 has a caliber of 7,62 x39 mm, the capacity of the store is 30 of cartridges, the mass is 3,11 kg. The initial speed of a bullet departure is 884 m / s.

Comments

[bouncyhunter]

What the hell? Why is the patron not "decommunized"? ZRAADA !!!

[oleg-gr]

Another imitation of reform. Under this business they will give money for implementation. Perhaps they will release something. Only who will build a cartridge plant?

[tol100v]

Quote: oleg-gr

Perhaps they will release something.

Glass ... not a fool for long!

[iConst]

Quote: Tol100v

Quote: oleg-gr

Perhaps they will release something.

Glass ... not a fool for long!

If this information is correct, then, most likely, there will be a pseudo-screwdriver "license" - rifles will come from the Pendoc warehouses, for example, with an unscrewed stock. The macaques will screw.
What they are doing is bypassing the definition of "supply" of lethal weapons. Now on the blue eye - ah, what? We are nothing - they are themselves.

[iConst]

Actually, some kind of nonsense: M-16 model (???) WAC-47 - I do not remember this.
1. The Internet is silent - only in the mention of ukrovsky declaration.

2. Then the M-16 under the light cartridge. TTX indicates 7.62. In theory, this is a completely different weapon. Just do not change the caliber.

3. Found only one company “Aeroscraft” - but it only deals with air projects - it doesn’t smell like weapons.

I conclude: the message is fake.

[HUMAN OWNER 1]

The conclusion is not correct, here this muck even the store from AK use

[iConst]

Quote: OVERHEAD 1

The conclusion is not correct, here this muck even the store from AK use

If your picture, then this SR-47 company Knight's armament.

Are there too many reservations? Therefore - a fake.

[Alf]

Quote: oleg-gr

Only who will build a cartridge plant?

Why build it? Our cartridge is painfully familiar, intermediate.
And what a strange term-

Muzzle velocity

?

[avdkrd]

Quote: oleg-gr

Only who will build a cartridge plant?

Yes, no one will build - in the states everything is already built

[Stas Snezhin]

Yes, Ostap Bender's expression "Abroad will help us." became the national idea of ​​all Ukraine ..

[Platonich]

The NATO ammo is like dirt!

[your1970]

Our cartridge, the usual 7,62 * 39, and the plant is almost there, although it is like an elbow .....

[GSH-18]

Ukroboronprom announced the imminent start of the release of American lethal weapons in Ukraine

As well as combat starships with a yellow flag on board!

[Safer]

Well, even if in mattress it’s not against AK, then dill made a discount on decommunization :) Yes, and in warehouses they have a lot of these cartridges :)

[sabakina]

And what? Soviet cartridge from AKA intermeddle in NATO M-16?

[210ox]

If you really want it, you can hammer it .. If you are lucky ..

Quote: sabakina

And what? Soviet cartridge from AKA intermeddle in NATO M-16?

[GSH-18]

Quote: 210ox

If you really want it, you can hammer it .. If you are lucky ..

What for? Kalimb M-16 5,56mm, caliber AK74 5,45mm. Comes in softly, the current ma with the first shot the barrel will tear to a single hair dryer that's all!

[meriem1]

Quote: sabakina

And what? Soviet cartridge from AKA intermeddle in NATO M-16?

That nooo .. M16-5,56 mm .. The cartridge plant will be redone))) Like assemblies in reactors. M-16 and so wedges .. well, and let it wedge better.

[Safer]

Well, the article says about wac 47. there is a picture on the picture. I just did not understand why the effective distance is only 600m ... Although, from drunken eyes ... you can’t even aim further from the machine.

[Zaurbek]

Well, a little hole to make it fit.

[Irbenwolf]

In general, they are going to do this ... Abbriveatua W (est?) AC (AK) -47 ... The American defense will try to squeeze the Kalashnikov market (cartridges in the sea warehouses) plus saturate the countries surrounding Russia with an affordable means (for various barmels ) the use of cartridges.

Ammunition is easier to steal than AK itself ... although I'm an amateur ...

For acceptable results, a production culture is needed, it was not even in coarser things, "modernization" of a reliable AK as a piece of wood is not able to carry out, but here a full cycle "from scratch" Colo (washing)

[sabakina]

US defense will try to overcome the Kalashnikov market

Where? In Ukraine? In the Baltic states? For God's sake! Even the last Papuans will never give up the AK!

[Irbenwolf]

Weapons tend to seep across borders. And if earlier Russia was surrounded mainly by artisans whose products were not needed by anyone because of their quality and combat characteristics. Now, in a neighboring country aggressively disposed towards Russia, they want to bring in an arms factory based on a Russian cartridge.

This is not Borz ... this is more serious ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: sabakina

Where? In Ukraine? In the Baltic states? For God's sake! Even the last Papuans will never give up the AK!

SABAKIN, on, what are you talking about? These are the Papuans we can and will not refuse, and sprats with kaklama after a shout from the Fashington opkom are ready to rearm at least with a slingshot! The main thing was the "made in usa" stamp.

[Dimont]

It’s just that in Ukria they decided to be closer to Europe and NATO and rivet clubs on the NATO model. What comes of this, this is a question .. And they licked on time and washed the money

[vovanpain]

Quote: bouncyhunter

What the fuck

Yes, the garbage is simple, like five cents, the next "Dung" will be released, and even then:

[79807420129]

to establish the release of American weapons under a US license.

There the whole country is already under an American license and the beholder drinks heavily.

[78bor1973]

A care instruction in the form of comics for the same will be?

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

evil you ...
now what? due to the fact that the M-16 is a kakakha, now do you have to re-shoot all the amer films again? :)

[es.d]

E..e..e M16, M4 are slightly different systems.

[zadorin1974]

In vain we laugh. On this subject, you can drag any weapons into Ukraine, bypassing all sorts of restrictions. In fact, iron will be produced in any country. Allegedly, it will be assembled in Ukraine. So, the news is not entirely good.

[Cat]

Here with the cartridge "samostiiniki" and burn: a steel sleeve, Soviet gunpowder and super-duper M-16 trash or a hammer at the exit (no standard bayonet is provided).

[stas]

The Maidan will soon, in spite of the maskals, move to live on the Moon, and they will not let anyone go there, and rename the Moon to Crimea. Again, Our.

[vell.65]

Quote: bouncyhunter

What the hell? Why is the patron not "decommunized"? ZRAADA !!!

What difference does it make to whom to trash.

[210ox]

They will fight a lot with this M16 ... Yes, let them do it ... There is more pathos and advertising than result ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 210ox

They are a lot with this M16 they will fight ...

As with the Kalash they fought - the masters of "boilers", damn it, so they will fight with the M16. The young lady from the Institute of Noble Maidens, at least give an ax, at least a chainsaw - they won’t cut all the firewood .... They think they’ve gone wrong with Kalash, so will everything work out with M16 right away? PEOPLE are at war, not M16 .... And THESE, so to speak, people can’t be redone at no American factory. We need new ones - but nowhere to take ....

[Reserve officer]

Here it is the secret of the great Ukrainian victory - the change of small arms! AK on M16. And that’s all!
This, like - is everything ingenious simple?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Reserve officer

Here it is the secret of the great Ukrainian victory - the change of small arms! AK on M16. And that’s all!

[210ox]

Unfortunately, not everything is simple .. And from M16 people are easily killed ..

Quote: Stock Officer

Here it is the secret of the great Ukrainian victory - the change of small arms! AK on M16. And that’s all!
This, like - is everything ingenious simple?

[Shurik70]

Quote: Stock Officer

Here it is the secret of the great Ukrainian victory - the change of small arms! AK on M16. And that’s all!
This, like - is everything ingenious simple?

[Vitalson]

The civilians will come down to naughty.

[APASUS]

Quote: 210ox

.Yes let them do it ... There is more pathos and advertising than result ..

Do many countries have a license for the production of M-16?
Americans will never give such a license, you need to know the Americans to start.

[Zaurbek]

Ukraine already has a license for both M16 and TAVOR ....

[APASUS]

Quote: Zaurbek

Ukraine already has a license for both M16 and TAVOR ....

What is the license for TAVOR?
Where does Zin come from?
Why, having a license to manufacture an automatic machine, Ukraine still depends on parts supplied from Israel, do not want to answer ............................... .......

[Zaurbek]

Everything depends on the demand and the number of products produced, to some serious volumes, the production of trunks, for example, is unprofitable. If you think that the device of the machine is a secret, then you are mistaken. Israel will gladly sell technology and licenses.

[APASUS]

Quote: Zaurbek

Everything depends on the demand and the number of products produced, to some serious volumes, the production of trunks, for example, is unprofitable.

It does not seem to be profitable at all since we never saw it in the Donbass. But the parade showed that this weapon was only for beautiful performances.

Since 2009, NPO Fort has been producing TAR-21 modifications in Ukraine: Fort-221, Fort-222, Fort-224.

[Zaurbek]

It’s just that in Ukraine there are so many old AKMs and AK-74s that the new weapons are still 10 years old
not
will need to

[APASUS]

Quote: Zaurbek

It’s just that in Ukraine there are so many old AKMs and AK-74s that the new weapons are still 10 years old
not
will need to

That's right!
And it’s worth reviving the cavalry, carts and sabers for machine guns. Here Maxim has already entered the service of the Armed Forces

[tihon4uk]

Given the quality of soldiers training in the APU, they will use these rifles like clubs! they won’t even be able to clean, and you don’t even have to talk about the quality of production!

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: tihon4uk

Given the quality of soldiers training in the APU, they will use these rifles like clubs! they won’t even be able to clean, and you don’t even have to talk about the quality of production!

to use these "weapons" like cudgels, because they are luminous. and where did you see the M-16? I personally see some kind of non-combat variation of the Ar-15. the cartridge is not the right one, the forend is not the right one, even the receiver is not like that.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

and in time? I believe that Poroshenko left to live until spring

[210ox]

Unfortunately you are wrong ... This "project" is for a long time ..

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

no longer ... Trump will not support him - not profitable.
and without money - there only declare a total war, as the Fuhrer at the end of the war ...
that’s the whole story ...

[210ox]

Have you decided for Trump? It’s quite presumptuous ... I personally think that the state policy will not change much .. Just because it is impossible to stop this Russophobian locomotive simply by changing the condos .. Yes and Trump is still a fruit .. See.

Quote: Skeptic Self-taught

no longer ... Trump will not support him - not profitable.
and without money - there only declare a total war, as the Fuhrer at the end of the war ...
that’s the whole story ...

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

210ox
And here it’s not necessary to decide - everything is clear in principle. TRMP will minimize failed projects. Syria. Ukraine ... And the fact that the foreign politician will not change is yes ... You just need to find out where they will spoil the new ...
Since Ukraine has already been "hanged" on the Russian Federation, this is understandable ... we need to restore it, catch Bandera and other celestial centenaries ...

[Vadim237]

Russia will not restore Ukraine - in 2019 the gas branch will be cut off and .. it will be given to us.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

Vadim - here you are wrong ... Since no one will give money to Ukraine - we don’t need Bacchanalia on the borders of the Russian Federation - so alas, it’s necessary ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

And the fact that Ukraine has lived for 400 days without our gas, is it nothing?

[Alf]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And the fact that Ukraine has lived for 400 days without our gas, is it nothing?

But whose gas does she use? Reverse or the one that after 33 resales comes to them, only twice as expensive? So I dare to recall that all the same Russian gas.

[dauria]

Russia will not restore Ukraine

Stunned. Strategic territory with developed infrastructure nafig not needed? If it is possible to put a government under control, we will even take over the international debts of Ukraine. There are no options. Even the border along the Dnieper will not suit Russia if there is NATO on the right bank. The Americans got involved for the sake of three airfields in Afghanistan; there is more and not a damn thing there. And try to kick out now.

[Alf]

Quote: dauria

If it is possible to put a government under control, we will even take over the international debts of Ukraine.

Yes, Russia, unfortunately, is doing well to take on the debts of other countries.
A controlled government in Ukraine, Russia could have long been put, if there was a desire. But there was no such desire, yes, apparently, no. Recall 20 years of stupid throwing. Yes, and why take on other people's debts? Recall how the Soviet government acted after the revolution about the debts of tsarist Russia. The tsarist government took the debts, so turn to it. But the current government will not dare to do so.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 210ox

Unfortunately you are wrong ...This "project" is for a long time ..

The project will last, Poroshenko will not last long. The revolution will, sooner or later, devour its children. Therefore, all Petya needs to think about is about the right moment when to go to America. A little earlier - he is not talking. A little later - and the stolen will not help ... And the "project" will live without it. Banderonshchina firmly settled down ... It will not be long before the frozen carcasses of the Bandera people will hang on the Kiev lanterns ...

[210ox]

And Poroshenko will serve at least one term. Here you will see ..

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: 210ox

Unfortunately you are wrong ...This "project" is for a long time ..

The project will last, Poroshenko will not last long. The revolution will, sooner or later, devour its children. Therefore, all Petya needs to think about is about the right moment when to go to America. A little earlier - he is not talking. A little later - and the stolen will not help ... And the "project" will live without it. Banderonshchina firmly settled down ... It will not be long before the frozen carcasses of the Bandera people will hang on the Kiev lanterns ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 210ox

Poroshenko will serve at least one term. You’ll see ..

Let’s see ... I can’t vouch for the absolute of my words, I’m not Pavel Globa to tell everyone that I am the ultimate truth and that everything will be the way I’ve delivered ...

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: Zoldat_A

The project is for a long time, Poroshenko is not for long. The revolution will sooner or later gobble up its children necessarily. Therefore, all Pete needs to think about is the right moment when to blame for America.

Petro Yatsenyuha sent to America. believes yatsenyuh on their own grandmother bought 20 villas in Florida? a springboard is being prepared for the retreat. will be Little Ukraine in Florida. and Petya is the president.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Skeptic Self-taught

I believe that Poroshenko left to live until spring

Why? If he knows how to blow to America in time, he will live longer ... But no, since Mussolini will be suspended by his legs in the window of the Roshen brand store ...

[Kasym]

He needs to serve at least one presidential term in order to blow into America. Otherwise, even there they will be sentenced for a failed project, "undressed" at least.
In the United States, Russian weapons are very popular, and the Kiev authorities ... D. B. - Lavrov ... They will sell the M-16 rather than make it possible to produce at home.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Kasym

In order to blow him to America, he needs to serve at least one presidential term. Otherwise, they will be sentenced there for a failed project

There is an option. "Pro-Russian terrorists trained in Moscow raised an uprising against the legitimate Ukrainian authorities, created a threat to the life of the legitimate president of Ukraine in order to sow chaos in democratic Ukraine and occupy independent Ukraine on the sly." In short, the Kremlin is to blame again. How do you like this CNN, or Fox News? You can also make him a victim. And blame Russia for another Orange Revolution in Ukraine. History is not made by events, but by their interpretation ... By the way, Saakashvili didn’t have anything for the failed project of Georgia and the stupid war war of the 2008 year - on the contrary, they sent it to the reserve and pulled it out at the right time, dusted it off, fed it with ties, and into battle!

[Observer2014]

The first weapon that the pilot project will be made in Ukraine will be the M16 automatic rifle. The manufacture of weapons according to the NATO standard is part of the development and reform of the Ukrainian defense industry.

Yes show-off, though not cheap. Now M16 will start talking and its modifications are a weapon of professionals. Maybe. For some armies with a budget of less than half a trillion dollars, and so. Only in the army, "give me hto sho can" yes in dugouts at checkpoints. In the mud, this M16 is like a hare's fifth leg.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Observer2014

In the mud, this M16 is like a hare’s fifth leg.

During the Vietnam War, American soldiers very willingly exchanged their M-16s for our Kalashnikovs, since in real combat operations our weapons were superior in all respects to the American ones! Including reliability in case of pollution and ease of maintenance.

[The stranger]

ABOUT! Now they will finally revolt Moscow, and then Rostov!
Everyone stand, boyazzo!

[Observer2014]

The stranger

ABOUT! Now they will finally revolt Moscow, and then Rostov!

Already taken. We have guest workers from Ukraine as dirt .This is about the central and banderlog. And with the east or LDNR does not matter, these are our people. They with status or refugees

[The stranger]

Aren't they disgusted with plowing the invaders?
Westerners something.
Damn, I don’t understand. How dishonor can reach ...

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: Alien

Aren't they disgusted with plowing the invaders?
Westerners something.
Damn, I don’t understand. How dishonor can reach ...

and they are like partisans. and commit sabotage - they send money to their families.

[Fagelov]

What is "lethal" in the M-16? Did the license come from the USA? Oh well.

[The stranger]

License and lethal.

[san4es]

... sabotage them to the factory

[cannabis]

Cartridge, cartridge, cartridge! Rather, show the entot cartridge, which, with a shortened barrel, kicks up a bullet 160 m / s faster. Srrrrrochno steal one to study .......

[sabakina]

Ammo okay. I wonder where they will produce it?

[cannabis]

Quote: sabakina

I wonder where they will produce it?

You can make a curious expression on your face and promise to build an innovative weapons factory near Zhmerynka with a little grazing. UkrKolt company for example. Ha! Himself incriminating in plagiarism! This was already with Ilf and Perov. World Chess Tournament in New Vasyuki !!!

[Wolka]

promising doesn’t mean getting married ... screaming out from under the gate too ... wait and see

[iouris]

This American oxymoron should not be used here. In the Russian (state) language there are the concepts of "weapons" and "military equipment".

[scaramaks27]

Well, if the M4 model WAC 47 .... in one small, hot, but very proud country, when the old man McCucacaine was still "buv litak" brave amerovskie "gi ah" with great pleasure, on occasion, tried to change this (M4) to a trouble-free SCS!

[Morris worm]

Yes there and so civilian ARs were collected from the Colt designer, I can assure you not of poor quality, there is no Orsis of course, but many of the details they already have.
So the designer is sent, they collect it and go on the road!

[alavrin]

What nah im rifles without cartridges? There are no cartridges (the Lugansk plant moved to Russia), but there are rifles ...))

[goncharov.62]

Is this the beginning of your end or the end of your beginning will be?

[muhomor]

Well, damn it I can't understand! Well, what is the point of switching to a "new" old machine? What efficiency? TTX is clearly worse! Only forces and means will be spent. And with cartridges of leapfrog it will be.

[Babermetis]

A line for optics and "bells and whistles" produced by NATO countries.

Quote: muhomor

Well, damn it I can't understand! Well, what is the point of switching to a "new" old machine? What efficiency? TTX is clearly worse! Only forces and means will be spent. And with cartridges of leapfrog it will be.

[Alf]

Quote: muhomor

Only ... spend money.

Here! The golden word "funds"!

[Larra anathema]

Well, they got a license.
Well, and the production base? Here at VO there are a lot of materials on the topic: Ukraine has technologies, but there are no specialists, not to mention factories.
It is clear that this news is terribly joyful for them: freshly made VAKs combined with curvature are a very, very dangerous weapon ... for ukrov themselves.

[Brigadier]

M16 against AK in the natural conditions of Dill? Yes, this is wonderful! A lot of our guys from the LPR and the DPR will be saved, because the reliability of the M16 (and even in Bandera manufacturing!) Is well known!

[CYBERNINJA]

Now it’s clear why Russophobe McCain came to check how things are going with his military business

[Ruby]

The good news is in fact, which doesn’t add any fighting efficiency to the dill army :)
They will cut a piece of the budget, which in other cases would go to something useful for them, well, they will release something. Although it is not clear what they were going to do. As far as I know, they do not have a serious production of gun trunks. Then they merge the topic in a quiet, that's all. The bottom line is, a certain number of babos in something pocket and a decent hole in the defense budget. Donbas really shouldn’t be upset about this.

[Mountain shooter]

Yes, at least put on embroidered shirts, even take off the harem pants - and the cartridge 7.62x39 will not give 884 m / s! From no trunk. 7.62x54 - can. But I do not want to shoot from the trunk weighing 3.1 kg with such ammunition in bursts.

[Vadim237]

So this rifle is just under the cartridge 7.62x54.

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

So this rifle is just under the cartridge 7.62x54.

Raise the eyes in the photo in the article. There it is very clearly written 7,62x39.

[Reserve buildbat]

Wonderful. m-16 with a shorter barrel even compared to the AK_47 / 74. (AK 415mm, as far as I remember). Under the AK cartridge with the m-16 mechanism))) They simply cannot even establish production until the end of the "country", not to mention the fact that the quality of these "crafts" could reach a normal level only if there were specialists at the factories and in KB. Specialists, not Banderlogists.

[Alf]

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

How dill managed to throw the same bullet out of the barrel with a length of 406 mm at a speed of 884 m / s, this is unattainable for the mind.

There is a superpowder. The latest Ukrainian development.

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Comrade_Stalin

How dill managed to throw the same bullet out of the barrel with a length of 406 mm at a speed of 884 m / s, this is unattainable for the mind.

There is a superpowder. The latest Ukrainian development.

Salts added?

[mr.redpartizan]

Cannabis gunpowder, probably. I saw in YouTube one report on the latest development of dill gunsmiths - hemp cartridges.

[Tai]

they decommunized meters, now they have the correct ones, and their bullets flew faster)))

[bunta]

This is what, they are piercing armored personnel carriers with this bullet.

[mr.redpartizan]

Svidomo cartridges give +150 bullet speed - that's the whole secret.

[rus-5819]

automatic rifle M16. NATO-made weapons are part of the development and reform of the Ukrainian defense industry.

You will also "cut" the trunks yourself, ukr?
Where am you planning to buy ammunition?
There are many questions, the answer is one: - "Abroad will help us!" .. Ostap, damn it, not implemented.

[Zomanus]

There will be no arms shipments. There will be disassembled arms deliveries.
So to say in the form of a car kit. Outside Ukraine, these car kits will be assembled.
Well, in general, yes. But in any case, it all depends on
how hard Trump is ready to defend what he talked about during the election campaign.
If someone forgot, then Obama also received a peace prize for a reason.
his plans were very rosy for us.
And then the system of checks and balances began ...

[sgazeev]

Kalash is self-sustaining, and from this it will be difficult for pan-leg-killers.
For example, there is an opinion that the M16 is rather a good sports rifle, suitable for military service only conditionally due to a number of inherent flaws [12].

As such, they are called, first of all, the low reliability of the weapon, especially in the hands of a relatively inexperienced or careless fighter, or in conditions where careful maintenance of the rifle is simply impossible, unlike a Kalashnikov assault rifle. In particular, it is believed that because of this, the M16 is unsuitable for long autonomous trips [12].


M4 carbine, disassembled for cleaning; in the foreground, a massive cylindrical bolt frame is clearly visible.
The reason for this lies mainly in the design of the weapon: its bolt carrier (eng. Bolt-carrier) has the form of a cylindrical part, quite tightly fitted to the walls of the bolt box (“receiver” - eng. Upper reciever) made of a relatively soft aluminum alloy, the inner surface of which does not have developed "pockets" for removal of pollution. This leads to the fact that if dirt or sand gets into the receiver’s cavity - the weapon either ceases to shoot immediately, or when firing without immediate cleaning it can very quickly fail [12].


Shutter M16. The numbers indicate:
1 - spring rings, providing a landing bolt inside the bolt; 2 - shutter; 3 - axis of the ejector; 4 - hairpin restricting the course of the reflector; 5 - reflector spring; 6 - reflector; 7 - ejector; 8 and 9 - ejector springs.
Moreover, this happens, despite all the measures taken by the designers to seal the weapon, such as the introduction of a spring-loaded shutter closing the window for ejecting cartridges (opening automatically when firing) or eliminating the slot for the cocking handle (the handle is located behind the receiver and is stationary when firing, which itself led to a decrease in reliability and the emergence of such an additional detail as a shutter closer (Eng. forward assist), which allows you to close it if for one reason or another it does not reach its extreme forward position under the influence of a return spring itself, and the risk of such a delay M16 has been upgraded due to its characteristic design of the cartridge removal mechanism with a spring reflector fixed to the bolt, the spring of which is compressed when the cartridge is retaken, taking energy from the mobile weapon system).


Repeatedly criticized the system of "direct" gas exhaust without a gas piston, used on the M16.
In addition, the repeatedly criticized system of the “direct” (without a gas piston) gas exhaust engine (English direct impingement), which is the most significant design feature of Stoner's rifles, also does not differ in reliability, contributes to the pollution of the weapon mechanism by powder deposits, its increased wear due to high temperature and the formation of aggressive chemicals, and requires the use of gunpowder in cartridges of consistently high quality, as well as frequent changes and additives of grease due to its “burnout” during firing - and the grease used must also be of high quality. A thin tube connecting the cavity of the bolt box with the gas outlet on the barrel is also a weak point of the weapon, since it heats up under intense fire (sometimes to the point that it begins to glow in the dark) and can burst.

It is noted that in the hands of an experienced fighter who understands the need for careful maintenance of the weapon and provides it, the M16 is completely reliable. However, the very need for careful care can be called a disadvantage for military weapons operating in real field conditions [12]. The addition to the M16 Rifle Tips manual, distributed among American soldiers in Vietnam, recommended cleaning up to 3-5 times a day [13].

Assembling and disassembling the M16 for cleaning, although theoretically it is not particularly difficult as a procedure, in the opinion of those who operated this weapon in combat conditions, in practice can be carried out almost exclusively indoors, not only because of the presence of small parts in the weapon, but also due to the fact that when assembling weapons “in the field”, dust and dirt in enough quantities can get inside the sealed receiver [12]. In addition, the cleaning of weapons is complicated by the presence of a large number of inaccessible places in which carbon deposits accumulate, which, however, can be said about many other samples operating on the principle of removal of powder gases, including a Kalashnikov assault rifle, which, for example, presents particular difficulty cleaning a flue gas tube having a complex shape.

Other significant shortcomings of the weapon are called.

The dimensions of a rifle with a 20-inch (508 mm) barrel are currently considered unnecessary, especially for motorized infantry moving inside a limited volume of armored personnel carriers [12].

The M16 is characterized by insufficient service strength - the alloy receiver is very prone to cracking during impacts that occur even during normal operation of the weapon - for example, the body of armored vehicles, and at the same time is not at all repairable, so any breakdown of it requires replacement, which is very expensive and requiring a new sighting of weapons. Plastic fittings parts also do not differ in high strength [12].

The small-caliber M16 barrel is characterized by capillarity (retention of water that has condensed or gets into it, which is not completely removed with a simple shaking of the weapon), which can lead, if not to a sharp increase in the pressure of powder gases during firing and, as a consequence, to rupture of the barrel [1], then to his quick - in just a few shots - failure [12]. Moreover, this drawback is mainly associated not with the diameter of the bore, but with the nature of the rifling used - the AK74 with exactly the same caliber is devoid of such a flaw (5,45 AK and 5,56 M16 calibers are absolutely identical due to differences in caliber measurement systems in the USA and In Europe - in AK along the rifling fields, and in M16 - along the bottoms of rifling) [12]. To eliminate this drawback, a special muzzle cap was developed, put on the trunk in the stowed position [1].

In addition, like all weapons under low-impulse small-caliber cartridges, the M16 is often criticized for the relatively low breakdown and prohibitive action of a bullet [12], while its striking ability for an unprotected target is usually not satisfactory.

For regular M16 stores, an unreliable supply of cartridges is characteristic: despite their formal capacity of 20 and 30 rounds, in practice, the reliability of the supply is ensured when loading no more than 17 and 28, respectively [14]. The addition to the M16 Rifle Tips manual, distributed among American soldiers in Vietnam, categorically prohibited the equipment of a 20-round magazine with more than 18-19 rounds of ammunition [13].

The receiver of shops with a long neck, although it is convenient to use, tends to clog up with dirt under appropriate conditions, after which joining a store becomes problematic [12].

Placing the return spring in the butt does not allow to obtain a full folding butt (for shortened versions of the M4 type it is made telescopic, when folded, the length of the weapon decreases comparatively only slightly).

Finally, as a significant drawback is the high price of weapons [12].

Modification of the M1980A16 adopted in the early 2s, which received a thicker and heavier barrel, adapted to conduct intense fire, a wider and more comfortable butt, made like the new forearm, was called upon to “get rid” of some of the shortcomings characteristic of early weapons. and a handle made of more durable polyamide instead of brittle fiberglass, improved sights that allow more precise adjustment when shooting, and other improvements.

However, along with this, a “cut-off” appeared in it, which limited the number of shots in the line when firing automatic fire to three. This detail was immediately criticized, since it was practically useless in battle - even an inexperienced shooter may well “cut off” short bursts, but at the same time he would seriously harm the accuracy of firing single shots due to the fact that changes introduced into the USM weapons negatively affected the nature of the descent - it became heavy, uneven and with a failure at the end. Therefore, at present, many army A2 rifles, as well as all M16A3, armed with the Marine Corps, do not have this device [12]. The most modern variants of the AR-15 family - the M4A1 carbines - also have the usual automatic fire mode without cut-off, but the latest modification of the M16A4 rifle retains the "cut-off".

[Stinger]

Glory to McCain! This is the most necessary weapon. Without it, no transgression is possible. Production must be established necessarily at the ROSHEN factory. And the cartridges are there. So that not a single dollar passes by the owner’s mouth. Glory to Ukraine! Poroshenko glory! Shame on the rabbit!

[113262a]

Ironically in vain! This is the case when a serious contract was contracted - Kiev Aeros is a kind of DESPICABLE ME! Before the war, it was one of the best offices in Miter working in the production of ALS, paragliders, kites, and motorized hang gliders. Who cares, Izh site-http: //www.paradelta.ru/page/aeros. Not majors and not cutters, crossed before. Now, Svidomo on the board, it’s for the Pentagon that they riveted the airship. There are two options — either they will be inside Vekraine to collect disassembled in these, or, really, using the purchased equipment and license, they will muddle in nenka. And without hatred, the office is serious!

[Morris worm]

I thought the deal would be given to Zbroya.

[The leader of the Redskins]

All neighing? Thank God ... Well, for those who are in the stable, I remind you that there is where to collect this device in Ukraine - at least two plants are available. Ammunition? It is not a shame for us - they are buying from brothers in Bulgaria. And ammunition, and VOG, and shots for RPGs. And the last to spit on historical kinship. Business. Who continues to compare the line of M-16 and AK, based on the experience of Vietnam, I advise you to look at the calendar. Forty years have passed. Americans upgraded and improved their rifle. Have we greatly upgraded AK?

[mr.redpartizan]

The design of the M-16 will never be able to achieve the reliability of the AK family, how many do not upgrade it. The scheme with direct removal of powder gases and a short shutter speed with a weak return spring is designed for high accuracy of fire to the detriment of the reliability of the automation. Even the .223Rem cartridge with an almost cylindrical sleeve is less suited for automatic weapons than our intermediate 5,45 / 7,62.

[dvina71]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Forty years have passed. Americans upgraded and improved their rifle. Have we greatly upgraded AK?

No .. our army is still armed with an ak-47 .. By the way, how was the m-16 upgraded? Changed the butt? Have you hung a bunch of slats? .. What else? The rammer as it was and remained, therefore, they did not get rid of the delays .. Tales of reliability equal to Ak .. tell anyone ..

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: dvina71

By the way, how was the m-16 upgraded? Changed the butt?

No, they stuck a grenade launcher.

[dvina71]

Quote: Mordvin 3

uh, they stuck a grenade launcher.

Finally..

[Mordvin 3]

I would answer right now about this, but Smirnov banned me. So I will not express obscenities.

[Dimont]

Quote: Zaurbek

Well, a little hole to make it fit.

I apologize, whose hole to make more?

[Tai]

NATO rifle, under the Soviet cartridge! megazrad !!!!

[webdog]

focus on indicators such as the media, in particular the FRS media - CNN
1. first, the media praised obamycha
2. Then for some reason they began to scold him a little
3. Then they began to deliver it in full ...
4. Then they began to frighten Obamych - they caught a drunk with a knife in the garden of the White House ... who just picked it up and entered a guarded object. The media talked about this for 2 weeks.
another indicator is Obamych’s behavior.
1. if he is an enemy of Russia, then he must support all hostile actions of the Congress
2. Congress accepted the possibility of supplying lethal weapons to Ukraine, obamych blocked it.
3. Congress waited for Obama to leave and again passed the gun law for Ukraine, Obamych rushed to Washington by plane and again blocked the law ...
Is that how the enemy should behave, risking his reputation and ratings and life?

[romandostalo]

Nonsense. It’s of a different caliber, remaking for a different caliber, it is a different barrel, damn it, actually everything else is different from the store and beyond !!! Complete nonsense!!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Ukroboronprom "announced the imminent start of production of American lethal weapons in Ukraine

translate!

[Leeder]

I wonder when ukrovoyaki tired of cleaning it, and have to go back to AK? In sitting in the trenches you won’t especially brush ...

[Großer feldherr]

The article is incomplete.
Ukraine has long been producing "civilian" ARs, AK. But all this is expensive and therefore not suitable for additional equipment.
Here we are talking about the final assembly of finished products from gifted sets. There is no sensation here, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had no big problems with the arrow before, but the precedent itself is interesting, because bypassing the ban on the supply of weapons, the Yankees will be able to supply much more serious things.

[nikpwolf]

Quote: Großer Feldherr

but the precedent itself is interesting, because bypassing the ban on the supply of weapons, the Yankees will be able to supply much more serious things.

Here, yes. Trial balloon. Business. Try, see how it goes (both in terms of performance in general and in terms of general, so to speak, reaction), move on to more serious things. That's what crap. And the barrel is not the barrel, the cartridge is not the cartridge ... everything is decided one way or another. If you make good money in the war, you sometimes need to invest, recoup investments and make a profit. This "guys" from the bloody business and are busy. And the blood is not theirs. Unfortunately.

[aversun]

Standard Russian 7.62 * 39 in the AK-47 barrel with a length of 415 mm has an initial speed of 715 m / s. SCS with a barrel valley of 520 mm - 735 m / s. Does this WAC47 have 884 m / s? Lies! Most likely, the initial speed for the American cartridge 5.56 * 45 is given

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: aversun

Lies!

Our 5,45 has 900 m per second. Theirs Armalight - 1005 M.S.

[Sergei75]

And what is so small, it is necessary immediately with the F-22 and F-35 ....

[BOB044]

Another cut of the money allocated for this. In a couple of months, they will begin to produce the Mosin rifle. And they will say that this new modification of the M-16 rifle. Dill listen to not believe yourself. Thieves and they want to live in a freebie.

[Taygerus]

not what they will not start, and especially after January 20

[blind]

Bugagagaga artisans of gunsmiths ruins are not even able to remake Kalash and then a new production

[kos2cool4u]

Quote: iConst

I conclude: the message is fake.

I agree, it’s for sure a fake, especially to shovel the M-16 under 7,62, how many pennies should I beg !!!!)))

[_my opinion]

Ukroboronprom announced the imminent start of the release of American lethal weapons in Ukraine

Oh well

[va3610]

Eg, if they set up a small-scale production, then "it" will be more accurate to shoot, they have tolerances like "plus or minus tram stop" and for the M16 and its last ones this is clearly not enough.

[tolmachiev51]

Pompously "served", but it seems. That there will be a knee garage assembly, that is, purely washing the bucks.