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Marine Le Pen: "The reunification of Crimea with Russia is legal"

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The leader of the French "Popular Front" Marine Le Pen, who is one of the future candidates for the presidency of France, commented on the issue of the reunification of Crimea with the Russian Federation. According to Marine Le Pen, advocating France’s withdrawal from the EU and a reduction in dependence on the United States, said that the entry of Crimea and Sevastopol into Russia was completely legal.


The head of the French right:
I do not think that the accession (of Crimea and Sevastopol) was illegal. A referendum was organized there, and residents voted to join Russia. I see no reason to doubt the conduct and results of the referendum.


Marine Le Pen: "The reunification of Crimea with Russia is legal"


Recall that the official authorities of France at the moment do not recognize the Russian jurisdiction of the Crimea and Sevastopol. At the same time, separate groups of the French parliament repeatedly visited the Crimean peninsula, indicating that “oppression” and “human rights violations” in the Crimea are just cliches of Western anti-Russian propaganda that have nothing to do with reality.

Help: Marine Le Pen was born in 1968 year. In 2012, he already ran for president, taking third place in the first round with 18% of votes. To the future (at that time) President Hollande she lost a little more than 10% of votes.
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  1. bouncyhunter
    bouncyhunter 3 January 2017 15: 32
    +27
    Recall that the French authorities do not currently recognize the Russian jurisdiction of Crimea and Sevastopol.

    And how will Russia survive the non-recognition of Crimea and Sevastopol as official Paris? Woe is what ...
    lol
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      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 January 2017 15: 49
        +16
        They left the "Fleet" ... Even one rusty submarine .. And what they could not wash, it is the merit of the Crimeans themselves, and not the "flaw" of these utyrkas ..
        Quote: Zibelew
        Thanks to the Black Sea Fleet, the opinion of Paris can be put. Nevertheless, the cheap Crimea was returned to Russia, our grandfathers had to take it with big blood from the Germans. Glory to the horses, they transferred normally, even the fleet was left ... And most importantly, the Svidomo propagandists could not brainwash the Crimeans.
        1. Zibelew
          Zibelew 3 January 2017 16: 03
          +3
          BDK Olshansky is younger than many Syrian express ships. By the way, a catamaran of the Commune of 1915 and a tanker of the time of the Second World War are operated at the KChF not from a good life.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 3 January 2017 16: 07
            +3
            On "Olshansky" the engine is out of order .. As far as I have heard .. And in general, which of these "ships" do we use?
          2. masiya
            masiya 3 January 2017 22: 23
            +5
            I would like to answer that "Komunna" 1915 onwards. on the move and in working order, unlike the "Minsk, Kiev, Baku", as well as "Moscow and Leningrad" and other ships of the prohe ... renn ... s of the Soviet Navy, and this is a pity .. !!! and it's a shame to us the old men of the Navy !!!
            1. Thomas is not a believer
              Thomas is not a believer 4 January 2017 23: 29
              +1
              I read articles on this site, 70% IMHO about Ukraine. I don’t understand, we have everything so good that it is possible to discuss Ukrainian affairs? Do we have our own problems? Or are the media deliberately distracting the attention of Russian citizens from their problems?

              It seems to me that the crowing on the theme "Che there at the Ukrainians" is a special order of the owners of the media ...
              What do you think, comrades?
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 6 January 2017 12: 22
          0
          Marine Le Pen: "The reunification of Crimea with Russia is legal"

          Thank you Marina, we will not forget you good
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 3 January 2017 16: 01
        +22
        Zibelew Quote:
        And most importantly, Svidomo propagandists Crimeans could not brainwash
        If the help was to Donbass, as well as to Crimea. Yes at the time, then it’s not enough in Donbass, but throughout the Southeast of the former Ukraine there would be silence and calm. So with all due respect, fairy tales about the special character character of Crimeans and about brainwashing we do not need to tell. hi
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 3 January 2017 16: 36
          +20
          Are you from Sevastopol or Crimea? Or so, tryndet on my own! ? Are you a participant or witness to the Crimean events? Or there’s nothing to do with buzzing ... In the puddle, ruin the air .. Yes, I have even classmates who were 55 years old in the block posts in Sevastopol. Oh, you!
          1. RUBEROID
            RUBEROID 3 January 2017 16: 42
            +6
            Greetings from Simferopol.
          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 3 January 2017 18: 05
            +4
            Are you from Sevastopol or Crimea?


            Yes, waking you up! smile It doesn’t matter anymore, I bought a house in Yalta, the Almighty will allow, I will write books on retirement, inshaalla ....
          3. Observer2014
            Observer2014 3 January 2017 21: 12
            +3
            Xnumx vis
            Are you from Sevastopol or Crimea? Or so, tryndet on my own! ? Are you a participant or witness to the Crimean events? Or there’s nothing to do with buzzing ... In the puddle, ruin the air .. Yes, I have even classmates who were 55 years old in the block posts in Sevastopol. Oh, you!
            Your classmates were at the checkpoints. And my relatives have been living in the war for the third year. I won’t write more. Relatives also live in Sevastopol. Well, and then what? As it shows about failed to brainwash? You know, God willing, someday I will write in detail about what is happening. Now the time has not come. For obvious reasons, I hope.
        2. RUBEROID
          RUBEROID 3 January 2017 16: 38
          +2
          less pathos please. Are you a resident of Crimea? Do you know a lot about the nature of the inhabitants?
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 3 January 2017 16: 44
            +3
            I am a citizen of Sevastopol! Paphos where?
            1. RUBEROID
              RUBEROID 3 January 2017 16: 45
              +2
              not written to you. and to the observer 2014
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 3 January 2017 16: 48
                +2
                ...Excuse me ..
              2. BLOND
                BLOND 3 January 2017 17: 27
                +11
                Quote: RUBEROID
                not written to you. and to the observer 2014

                ... I will intercede for the observer 2014 (I don’t know him at all)
                He wrote that we did not "get" the kind of help that was in the Crimea in the Donbass. Moreover, Donbass was mostly happy for the Crimea and hoped for the same fate
                And the people in the Donbass were no less determined than the Crimeans.
                Here is what I read in his post. And what did you see in him bad?
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 3 January 2017 18: 13
              +6
              Quote: 30 vis
              I am a citizen of Sevastopol

              I bow my head to the hero city of Sevastopol and its heroic population.
              I am aware of its federal status ... But when it acquired the status of "City-State", which gives "citizenship" to its residents, I confess ... I missed it ...
              Therefore, sincerely happy for you, CITIZEN OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION! - a resident of the Hero City of Sevastopol!
              Yours faithfully, hi
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 3 January 2017 19: 38
                +3
                .First of all, we are Citizens of Russia! A citizen of Sevastopol .. This is the mentality of the Sevastopol residents. In Sevastopol they say - "Sevastopol is the capital of the world .." This is not a show-off. We just love our glorious, heroic city by the sea. We love and that's it.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 4 January 2017 21: 22
                  +1
                  The birth rate in Sevastopol remains one of the highest in the Russian Federation. In 2016, more than five thousand people were born in the city http://sevastopol.su/news.php?id=93479 And here Sevastopol is ahead of all of Russia! Our youth is trying! They can!
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            4. Executer
              Executer 4 January 2017 12: 06
              0
              Paphos in Cyprus!
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 3 January 2017 21: 03
            +3
            RUBEROID
            less pathos please. Are you a resident of Crimea? Do you know a lot about the nature of the inhabitants?
            Well, surprise. How is the character of the Crimeans different from the Donetsk and Luhansk?
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 17: 26
          +28
          Quote: Observer2014
          If the help was to Donbass, as well as to Crimea. Yes at the time, then it’s not enough in Donbass, but throughout the Southeast of the former Ukraine there would be silence and calm. So with all due respect, fairy tales about the special character character of Crimeans and about brainwashing we do not need to tell.

          You see, dear, Crimea voted in a referendum for reunion with Russia as a subject of the Federation, and Donetsk and Lugansk voted for independent Donetsk and Lugansk Republic. Do you feel the difference? If in the Crimea, Russia was not limited both on the moral and legal side of the issue, then it is more difficult for LDNR due to the fact that they voted for an independent status and not for reunification with the Russian Federation. According to the results of the Crimean vote, we can send everyone in three letters because no one canceled the right of the people to self-determination, but they decided on us ..... The only thing we can do is recognize the independence of the LPR and establish diplomatic relations with them, get invitation to send troops, etc. etc. But until the moment is ripe, though, probably, it will happen so soon. Nevertheless, it must be admitted that the assistance from Russia to the republics of New Russia is provided not only with flour and canned goods.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 3 January 2017 17: 58
            +6
            Here I am talking about the same thing .. In the summer of 2014, and even after that the columns went towards Rostov .. And not only with flour and canned goods .. Let's be realistic ... Well, not only the Donetsk and Lugansk men blocked the brutal Bandera ..
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Quote: Observer2014
            If the help was to Donbass, as well as to Crimea. Yes at the time, then it’s not enough in Donbass, but throughout the Southeast of the former Ukraine there would be silence and calm. So with all due respect, fairy tales about the special character character of Crimeans and about brainwashing we do not need to tell.

            You see, dear, Crimea voted in a referendum for reunion with Russia as a subject of the Federation, and Donetsk and Lugansk voted for independent Donetsk and Lugansk Republic. Do you feel the difference? If in the Crimea, Russia was not limited both on the moral and legal side of the issue, then it is more difficult for LDNR due to the fact that they voted for an independent status and not for reunification with the Russian Federation. According to the results of the Crimean vote, we can send everyone in three letters because no one canceled the right of the people to self-determination, but they decided on us ..... The only thing we can do is recognize the independence of the LPR and establish diplomatic relations with them, get invitation to send troops, etc. etc. But until the moment is ripe, though, probably, it will happen so soon. Nevertheless, it must be admitted that the assistance from Russia to the republics of New Russia is provided not only with flour and canned goods.
          2. lecturer
            lecturer 5 January 2017 17: 18
            +1
            Nyrobsky
            - Exactly and sensibly! "5" points from me ...
          3. evge-malyshev
            evge-malyshev 6 January 2017 11: 32
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Crimea in a referendum voted for reunification with Russia as a subject of the Federation, and Donetsk and Lugansk voted for the independent Donetsk and Lugansk Republics. Do you feel the difference?

            Moreover, besides, some friction is observed between the DPR and LPR.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 3 January 2017 18: 39
        +12
        Quote: Zibelew
        Nevertheless, the cheap Crimea was returned to Russia, our grandfathers had to take it with big blood from the Germans.

        America said that about five billion dollars were invested in the last Maidan ...
        Obama sits there, scratching his turnips and thinking: "Well, it turns out - I bought Crimea from Ukraine for Russia for five billion dollars?"
    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 3 January 2017 15: 40
      +12
      Marine Le Pen is very different from most French politicians. It is a pity that he will not become president of France.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 3 January 2017 15: 54
        +24
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Marine Le Pen is very different from most French politicians. It is a pity that he will not become president of France.

        Who knows, colleague, now she has 28-30% of the vote, Fillon, 32% of the main competitor, wait and see, although both candidates are called pro-Russian and Putin’s friends. hi And indeed, Colleagues, the feeling is whether it is Marine in France, and Sarah in Germany is real men in politics, unlike their clouds in their pants. hi
        1. alex73s
          alex73s 3 January 2017 16: 28
          +3
          Quote: vovanpain
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Marine Le Pen is very different from most French politicians. It is a pity that he will not become president of France.

          Who knows, colleague, now she has 28-30% of the vote, Fillon, 32% of the main competitor, wait and see, although both candidates are called pro-Russian and Putin’s friends. hi And indeed, Colleagues, the feeling is whether it is Marine in France, and Sarah in Germany is real men in politics, unlike their clouds in their pants. hi


          Afro-French and French Muslims will not vote for her for sure. Business is the same as she wants to limit migration, and who wants to lose cheap labor from the business, plus she wants to leave the EU, and who is engaged in trade aimed mainly at the EU market is not profitable. The victory of Holland was provided by just the colored French
        2. 210ox
          210ox 3 January 2017 17: 22
          +4
          Yeah ... Unlike male politicians, these ladies have ... a core ... Sorry, I meant something else ..
          Quote: vovanpain
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Marine Le Pen is very different from most French politicians. It is a pity that he will not become president of France.

          Who knows, colleague, now she has 28-30% of the vote, Fillon, 32% of the main competitor, wait and see, although both candidates are called pro-Russian and Putin’s friends. hi And indeed, Colleagues, the feeling is whether it is Marine in France, and Sarah in Germany is real men in politics, unlike their clouds in their pants. hi
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 3 January 2017 18: 04
        +5
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Marine Le Pen is very different from most French politicians. It is a pity that he will not become president of France.

        About Trump, they also wrote something and said something.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 3 January 2017 18: 45
        +10
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Marine Le Pen is very different from most French politicians. It is a pity that he will not become president of France.
        I sincerely hated Hillary, but, nevertheless, I was inclined to think that Trump would simply not be allowed into the presidency. AT ANY COST. And that's how it came out ... And I didn't believe in "Braxit" either - I thought they wouldn't be allowed. AT ANY COST. And it just! - and fig them then the EU ...What the hell is not joking - maybe the French are also tired of blowing an American asshole?
      4. Serg 122
        Serg 122 3 January 2017 20: 29
        0
        Here the dill have already "punished" her for her statements:
        The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) may deny entry to Ukraine for the leader of the French Popular Front Party Marine Le Pen after her statements about the legality of the return of Crimea to Russia. This was announced by the chief of staff of the head of the SBU Alexander Tkachuk.
        "If officials make such statements, then our service and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs assess them and react accordingly. I do not exclude that Le Pen will be barred from entering or some other measures will be taken," Tkachuk told the Obozrevatel. adding that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine will participate in the discussion of this issue, since the ban will concern a foreign citizen. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/world/35753508/?utm_conte
        nt = news & utm_medium = read_more & utm_source = copylink
        [Quote] [/ quote]
        1. Anton Boldakov
          Anton Boldakov 3 January 2017 22: 17
          +1
          Ofiget. She will die of grief. if she will be denied entry to Ukraine
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 3 January 2017 15: 46
      +4
      But she won’t win, another right candidate will win.
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 3 January 2017 16: 51
        +1
        This is shitty !!!!
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 17: 47
        +7
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        But she won’t win, another right candidate will win.

        Yes, who knows? For Trump, they also said that this berry would not ripen, but it turned out like that .... a whole watermelon was drawn. Now the French have three men and one aunt in the candidates. Everything is clear with the aunt - she is a statesman and pro-Russian politician, in other words, a threat to the EU and NATO, Of the three men, one from the circle of Holland (and not a man) is extremely not popular, and the two remaining will not go against the EU and NATO restrictions, but supporters of the development of relations with the Russian Federation. Marine Le Pen in the quest for independence, more reminiscent of Charles De Gaulle, who is respected by most Frenchmen and was also for leaving NATO, limiting US influence on French policy and for the return of gold reserves. True, they attempted to attack him more than 30 times.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 3 January 2017 18: 48
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          for example, a threat to the EU
          As I understand it, France has suffered the most. Mistrals, thermal imagers, Rafali were not sold to India, the United States bought for a penny for Egypt, Launches of Unions from the Chickens have risen in price. Only this lard 30 pulls French losses
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 3 January 2017 15: 58
      +7
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      And how will Russia survive the non-recognition of Crimea and Sevastopol as official Paris? Woe is what.

      Yes, actually the Colleague, it’s already the third year and we are worried and not worried about this. hi
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 3 January 2017 16: 01
        +12
        Quote: 79807420129
        Yes, actually the Colleague, it’s already the third year and we are worried and not worried about this. hi

        You may not have noticed sarcasm in my comment. After all, this is exactly what I had in mind. Yours faithfully hi
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 3 January 2017 16: 10
          +8
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          You may not have noticed sarcasm in my comment. After all, this is exactly what I had in mind. Yours faithfully

          A colleague, in your humorous comment, was given a humorous answer with respect hi
      2. Kasym
        Kasym 3 January 2017 16: 17
        +6
        After Thatcher, there have been many women in Western politics. And not only - there are many women ministers of defense in the EU. In England and Germany, the first persons - maybe in Paris will come. In the USA, Hillary was close. They decided to take the Babsk battalion to take the GDP - after all, a bachelor. laughing . I’m only afraid that they’re not suitable for recruitment. laughing. The Germans should not miscalculate, at least Sarah should be chosen from the left to chancellors. It’s good that the Americans didn’t choose this sterlet - this Baba Yaga would certainly not have attracted the most enviable groom. wassat
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 3 January 2017 19: 04
          0
          Quote: Kasym
          After Thatcher, there has been a lot of women in Western politics

          This is the way. Protective mechanism against American expansion. Do not send the maid or adult to bed. Brains sometimes think recourse
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 19: 45
            +3
            Quote: Tusv
            Quote: Kasym
            After Thatcher, there has been a lot of women in Western politics

            This is the way. Protective mechanism against American expansion. Do not send the maid or adult to bed. Brains sometimes think recourse

            They are there already afraid to look towards their girls. And if there are more or less pretty ones, such as Sarah Wagenknecht, or Marina, then they are friendly towards Russia.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 3 January 2017 19: 56
              +2
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              They are there already afraid to look towards their girls.

              About the pictures. Do not scare my subtle gaze with such terrible characters, because I have beautiful sisters and I'm used to protecting them
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 20: 02
                +6
                I'm afraid myself. I checked the saying - "There are no ugly women, there is little vodka." He drank, looked at the photo - and was still afraid. Weak in spirit belay drinks request
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 3 January 2017 20: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  He drank, looked at the photo - and was still afraid. Spiritually weak

                  What is the problem. Get married and you don't see such strauuyulidin. Imagine waking up, you see a beautiful woman - "Oh, what a beauty" - and on your head with a rolling pin: "I am your wife" laughing
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 21: 59
                    +1
                    Quote: Tusv

                    What is the problem. Get married and you don't see such strauuyulidin. Imagine waking up, you see a beautiful woman - "Oh, what a beauty" - and on your head with a rolling pin: "I am your wife" laughing

                    Yes, I’m why, I’m always ready, but my wife, once again, will not allow me to marry. It’s just that I’ve already ceased to be afraid of everything, which is bad, but then you look furtively at NATO and half a day in horror, all of a sudden such recourse laughing
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    5. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 3 January 2017 16: 38
      +1
      Oh, these "candidates" and "former", which current will not say, we will look at the cases.
    6. tihiy
      tihiy 3 January 2017 16: 50
      +6
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      And how will Russia survive the non-recognition of Crimea and Sevastopol as official Paris?

      Yes, we will survive somehow. And if Marine becomes president, it will be much easier to worry.
    7. Sazeks
      Sazeks 4 January 2017 17: 38
      0
      sorry only the hetman stayed with them, otherwise the complete set would
  2. asbond
    asbond 3 January 2017 15: 37
    +4
    Well, that’s it, now the democratic Western Caudle will kill Le Pen half to death. They will not let her become president, definitely.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 3 January 2017 15: 45
      +3
      French banks began to deny her money ... the process is not in her favor.
      1. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 6 January 2017 12: 37
        0
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        French banks began to deny her money ... the process is not in her favor.

        Maybe Abramovich will help. It seems that he did not light up anything anti-Russian. It would not have ruined it, but you would have helped your homeland, you see. True, he was not noticed in the VO either.
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 3 January 2017 15: 47
      +2
      But where is European democracy?
    3. samarin1969
      samarin1969 3 January 2017 15: 47
      +6
      Well, if the "refugees" move from the autodofe of French cars to mass compensation for the lack of "love", then Le Pen will become president ahead of schedule.
  3. bycharashkO
    bycharashkO 3 January 2017 15: 41
    +7
    Quote: asbond
    Well, that’s it, now the democratic Western Caudle will kill Le Pen half to death. They will not let her become president, definitely.

    And what are our hackers doing?
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 3 January 2017 18: 22
      +2
      Quote: bycharashkO
      And what are our hackers doing?

      How on what? belay
      This is 100% excuse for the losing globalists in the next presidential election! laughing
  4. nikpwolf
    nikpwolf 3 January 2017 15: 46
    +9
    Well, now everything ... all the "democratic-tolerant" media from London to Kiev - Putin bought ... - Putin's bedding ... - Putin elects presidents ... - Putin's hordes are advancing ... - Aaaaaaa threat ... - everything is gone ... Although between the statements of candidates or those who have already been and the deeds of the elected and the current ones, oh what a difference! Wait and see. For some reason I would like to wish Marinochka success.
  5. PValery53
    PValery53 3 January 2017 16: 01
    +5
    Western propagandists understand that only in a herd chorus they can zabrehivaet with their brazen lies the great truth of Russia. And as soon as they have someone leaning out with a truthful voice for Russia, they immediately "drown" him with dastardly methods. In a word - scum in big politics.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 3 January 2017 18: 36
      +4
      Quote: PValery53
      And as soon as they have someone leaned out with a truthful voice for Russia, they immediately "drown" him with dastardly methods.

      That's for sure! How many men-politicians were killed under charges of "sexual harassment" !!!
      Trump won’t get out of the sweet trap ... of the Democrats ...
      I wonder what liberoids will come up with against female candidates !?
      Really ... rape ... men !!!
      Oh my God! Your paths are inscrutable ...
      And all because:
  6. sgazeev
    sgazeev 3 January 2017 16: 05
    +4
    Yes, no matter how brazenly the French didn’t try to chop off the Crimea together with the Ottomans, it didn’t work.
  7. Zymran
    Zymran 3 January 2017 16: 05
    +1
    Hehe, I remember very well how her dad, completely official, was growing up in the media. They called it Foschizd. And now it’s how it turned.
    1. Samen
      Samen 3 January 2017 17: 25
      +5
      Everything flows, everything changes! Vaughn, in Germany, the reissued "Man Kampf" hit the top seller.
      Not sprsta, I think. So, the extreme right has a chance "the further, the more." Merkel is a fool @ old.)))
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 3 January 2017 18: 40
        +2
        Quote: Semen
        Vaughn, in Germany, the reissued "Man Kampf" hit the top seller. Not sprsta, I think.

        You are right, colleague!
        There are very good reasons !!!
  8. Knight Rider
    Knight Rider 3 January 2017 16: 06
    +6
    I agree with Marine Le Pen. Good luck on her election drinks
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 3 January 2017 16: 33
    +1
    Again he asks for money from Moscow. Due to difficulties in the budget, they may refuse.
  10. bald
    bald 3 January 2017 17: 01
    +1
    Something long thought. But, as they say, better late than never.
  11. Elizabeth
    Elizabeth 3 January 2017 17: 21
    +6
    Here, explain to me, it seems like men, it seems, even in epaulets, even if drawn, really none of you in the almost three years that have passed after the Crimean referendum, did not guess that in March 2014, at least de jure , is it the same as in December 1991, when on the basis of a referendum, repeated and already therefore, false, a huge powerful country - the USSR - ceased to exist? And the entire "civilized" world has recognized this as legal and consistent with international "law". This "right" suited those who imagined themselves to be the rulers of the world and the world order and those who creeped under the imaginary "rulers". The Crimea was, fortunately, an autonomous republic and just like in its time, that is, in 1991, the country to which it was a republic, exercised on a legal basis the nation's right to self-determination, up to secession. If the choice of the Crimeans is really to be recognized as illegal and the annexation of Crimea to Russia is illegal, then on the same grounds it is time to recognize the disintegration of the USSR as illegal. Then all the "Svidomye" and all the "independent" and all those pursuing the policy of "anti-Sovietization" are traitors to the Motherland, enemies of the Soviet people and state criminals.
    And if the collapse of the Soviet Union was nevertheless recognized as legal, then there can be no doubts about the legality of the annexation of Crimea to Russia. Marina, although a woman, even a French one, noticed it. But those commentators who still do not understand how Donbass differs from Crimea, and the whole of Novorossia from Donbass, and what was called Ukraine from Novorossia, let them spread out with their "unwashed", as they believe, brains and think why not was to repeat the Crimean scenario in the areas of the pseudo-state, which the world "civilized" community still calls an "independent state". The Crimean scenario in any other area is the Obama gang's coveted dream. And with Crimea, they can only yell and threaten with sanctions. Going for more means returning the USSR. And who needs it today? Perhaps, this gang still needs to revive the USSR in order to get Ukraine in there with all its problems and armed banderlog, and at the same time the roaring community of small but proud peoples who are pretty fed up with this "civilized" world. At the same time, in the Donbass there was the same brainwashing as in Kharkov, and in Odessa, and in Lvov. All the same ukrosmi (or rather ukrosmd - mass moronization). However, the immunity against the fascist infection turned out to be different, the number of individuals who retained sufficient immune protection to prevent fecal processions on their land turned out to be different. to avenge the Odessa Khatyn. In Europe, more and more of those to whom consciousness returns and those who have not lost consciousness and conscience. In Europe, they began to understand that the position "my hut is on the edge" does not give guarantees of the preservation of this very hut and its inhabitants. The refugees helped them to wake up from the hassle. So the living have risen, that is, those who are not afraid to go against the current, especially when the current began to change its direction. But who rose up against fecal matter in the Ukraine on January 1? Several women and retirees, as reported by some media. Where are the men? Yes, everything is on the Internet. Others at the fronts. The fatherland is protected.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 3 January 2017 17: 49
      +1
      The autonomy of Crimea was abolished.
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 3 January 2017 18: 40
        0
        The Constitution of Crimea in which there was a right to a referendum.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 3 January 2017 20: 09
          +4
          Quote: Kenneth
          Crimean Constitution in which there was a right to a referendum

          The Constitution of Crimea is completely out of business. A coup, a revolution in Kiev is for all, not just the Maidan. In fact, the coup ceased the mandatory nature of the Ukrainian constitution. In Crimea, they took advantage of this .. People’s representatives there were theirs in zdangiya still managed to bring together.
          But in Lugansk and Donetsk, deputies fled, leaving the population without legitimate authority. That's why Minsk is needed. Their outcome is legitimate elections, without surrendering the ukraine border. Then everything can go according to the Crimean scenario. Everything is in the hands of legitimate parliamentarians.
          And in the opinion of France. Germany .. and others like them .. do not care. let them try to take
        2. Elizabeth
          Elizabeth 3 January 2017 21: 01
          +4
          The Constitution of Crimea in which there was a right to a referendum.

          If the Constitution of Crimea is mentioned, then the autonomy of Crimea is confirmed, which, in the opinion of aleks700, was abolished. In March of 2014, only Crimea and Sevastopol possessed autonomy in a pseudo-state.
          Read, it’s interesting and useful if only this: http://www.iarex.ru/articles/51518.html
          "The events of the Crimean Spring are just Russia's implementation of its own decisions on the status of Crimea and Sevastopol. The executive branch and the President of the Russian Federation, as its leader, must strictly and conscientiously implement the decisions of the country's supreme legislative body. This is a common practice throughout the civilized world. And if this cannot be done right away, then it must be done as soon as the slightest opportunity presents itself for this.It appeared immediately after the overthrow of the legitimate president of Ukraine in February 2014, at the moment when the country left the constitutional field and was on the verge chaos and civil war. The Constitution of Ukraine is either in effect in its entirety, or does not work at all, selective enforcement is not permissible. Since it has ceased to be in force, the time has come to return the primordially Russian lands under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation.
          The statehood of Ukraine should be re-formalized and constitutionally reinforced, because the former state stipulated by the Constitution of Ukraine from June 28 to June 1996 is no more.

          This is another state, albeit with the same name. Therefore, it does not have the right to demand territories not participating in the reformatting of the new Ukrainian project. Before writing a new basic law of the country, the issue of its territory is debatable, which is clearly demonstrated by the events of recent months in New Russia.
          But even the 1996 Constitution does not unequivocally define the ownership of Crimea and Sevastopol to Ukraine. "

          In matters with the Donbass and other regions of Novorossia there is so far no such legal basis that would immediately resolve the issue of the status of these territories and the peoples inhabiting these territories, which are originally Russian. Now Donbass is fighting for Russia, for the Russian world on Russian lands, with the hooting of the Democrats of one bottling, even in the wild West, even in Russia. And there is no doubt that:
          "The statehood of Ukraine must be re-formalized and constitutionally enshrined, because the former state provided for by the Constitution of Ukraine of June 28, 1996 no longer exists." And what the new state system will be in the temporarily occupied Russian lands depends on you and me. From each according to his ability.
          .
      2. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 3 January 2017 20: 14
        +1
        The autonomy of Crimea was abolished.

        Question 1: when and by whom was the autonomy of Crimea established and when and by whom was it abolished?
        Question 2: what areas of the former Ukraine possessed or have the same status as Crimea?
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 19: 08
      +4
      Quote: Elizabeth
      The Crimean scenario in any other field is Obama’s longed-for dream.

      Come on))) If Obama only hinted at such a "dream", then Poland, Romania and Hungary would have already ripped off their historical pieces from the territory of non-settlement ...
      Quote: Elizabeth
      Going for more means returning the USSR. And who needs it today? Perhaps, this gang still needs to revive the USSR in order to get Ukraine in there with all its problems and armed banderlog, and at the same time the roaring community of small but proud peoples who are pretty fed up with this "civilized" world.

      They also do not need this))) It was not for nothing that Khrenova's aunt Clinton declared that the United States would not allow the revival of the USSR. They now have, of course, a "bum", who would determine 40 million banderlog and "undecided" Ukrainians for food, but so that they would receive money and resources from the "aggressor" and at the same time he was spoiled in their interests. But fools are dumb. The "aggressor" will now patiently observe how the "unkind" will not only break through the floor, but also break through the underground bunker where the trampoline is buried, from where they will jump out like a devil from a snuffbox with an enlightened head and a resurrected love for Russia, remembering the common roots.
      Quote: Elizabeth
      In Europe, more and more of those to whom consciousness returns and those who have not lost consciousness and conscience. In Europe, they began to understand that the position "my hut is on the edge" does not give guarantees today that this very hut and its inhabitants will be preserved.

      Yes, they did not lose consciousness. They, well-fed and prosperous, didn’t care that somewhere near Europe they were killing children in LDNR, or somewhere in the BV, bearded thugs were cutting people’s heads, because it didn’t concern them. And now ........ now, I absolutely agree with you, when dozens of people began to shoot and crush people with wagons, they saw their sight and looked around, suddenly felt the awakening of the self-preservation instinct, which pushes them not to tolerance, but to resistance and therefore they will support the leader who will propose specific methods of struggle for survival i.e. not how to live with a problem, but how to get rid of it. It seems to me that Marine Le Pen is just one of these leaders.
      1. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 3 January 2017 20: 22
        0
        Come on))) If Obama only hinted at such a "dream", then Poland, Romania and Hungary would have already ripped off their historical pieces from the territory of non-settlement ...

        Obama, although a lame duck, is not one to speak openly about his dreams. In addition, he needed a war exclusively with Russia, and not with Poland, Romania or Hungary. They only licked their lips since March 2014, and the team “face” from the owner did not wait. But, at the end of the day, such a command was received by the dill and now they delight the agony of their patron with new blood.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 21: 16
          +4
          Quote: Elizabeth
          Obama, although a lame duck, is not one to speak openly about his dreams.

          Judging by the fact that the results of his deeds have exactly the opposite result and differ from the words uttered, he only does what he says about his dreams, which are far from reality. (Either the Russian economy is tearing, then it sees it as ordinary and regional, then drives hackers, etc.) He’s still a utopian)))
          And the reality is that the listed countries, right now, are actively distributing their passports (ethnic Romanians, Poles, Hungarians) to citizens of Ukraine in the border areas. Perhaps, given the precedent of Crimea, they will also initiate referendums on the reunification of these territories with their own, along ethnic lines. To do this, you just need to recognize the legality of the transition of Crimea to Russia on the basis of a referendum in compliance with international law, which gives peoples the opportunity for self-determination. Why has this not happened to this day? Because it was dictated to Brussels by the owner from Washington - "Crimea was annexed illegally." The owner has changed and for the affairs of Europe he somehow - pffffff, with his own first of all to sort it out. If they do not take advantage of this moment in the near future, they will never take advantage of it, which means that soon they will "suddenly" see their light and admit that everything was correct in Crimea, since everything was correct. this will give them a similar opportunity to legally return territories without invasions, aggression, annexations, occupations, etc. - simply on the basis of the self-determination of peoples. Kiev will no longer be able to prevent this, either militarily, economically or financially. And something tells that in Europe no one will help Kiev, hold these territories for the reason that everyone understands the nature of its artificial appearance on the world map and the fact that this country, as a country, did not take place.
          1. Elizabeth
            Elizabeth 4 January 2017 02: 19
            +2
            I agree in the main, dear Nyrobsky. And in the little things, it's just a different perception - male and female views.
    3. andron-30
      andron-30 4 January 2017 00: 30
      +3
      Elizabeth, with your permission, Marin may speak in a "language" that is understandable to many Russians, about things that are close to us, understandable, but being a foreign politician for the time being "until she becomes the President of France," and in my opinion she does not know how to address her to a woman president? but personally I will be very pleased to congratulate Marin if she wins. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. Elizabeth
        Elizabeth 4 January 2017 02: 13
        +1
        I personally will be very pleased to congratulate Marine if she wins. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I agree with you, only not "if" he wins, but when he wins.
  12. 1536
    1536 3 January 2017 17: 22
    +2
    Thank you Le Pen! But it does not change anything. Even if Crimea is recognized as part of Russia, firstly, no one will lift the sanctions, and, secondly, they will say that the "Maidan" and the "hydrological revolution" in Ukraine were organized by the Russian government in order to "squeeze" Crimea, take the peninsula out of -under the noses of NATO and the American-British old men-maniacs who want to drag all of humanity with them to the grave.
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 3 January 2017 21: 17
      0
      Even if Crimea is recognized as part of Russia, firstly, no one will lift the sanctions, and, secondly, they will say that ...

      Yes, the sanctions will not be lifted and they will say that Russia and Putin are to blame for everything and in general at all times they will say what someone is used to, liars will lie, the vile will reproach, and only the truth and those who are not afraid of the truth will win. . Marine Le Pen Pen is not afraid of the truth and therefore will win, perhaps even in the coming elections.
      And for those who are with truth and truth, what is the matter of sanctions and what they say.
  13. aleks700
    aleks700 3 January 2017 17: 48
    +4
    If Le Pen won the election and recognition of Crimea as official Paris, Russian, this will be a breakthrough. It’s just that I can’t believe in victory. After trump, the geyrope is better prepared. But let it be a pleasant surprise.
  14. Holoy
    Holoy 3 January 2017 18: 03
    0
    I heard that she does not have enough finances, Russia needs to help this wonderful Political Leader!
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  16. rus-5819
    rus-5819 3 January 2017 19: 02
    0
    I see no reason to question the conduct and results of the referendum.

    Marinka - for president !!! (I'm not a hacker)
  17. Sergey F
    Sergey F 3 January 2017 19: 45
    +1
    On the one hand, we don’t care how Europe treats the annexation of Crimea to Russia. This is our land, period!
    On the other hand, recognition of this fact should be legally formalized in international institutions. This is normal.
    The bad thing is that Russophobia did not arise on its own, it is the corrupting influence of the United States, America is the icon to which the notorious Europe prays!
  18. rus-5819
    rus-5819 3 January 2017 19: 48
    0
    I do not think that the accession (of Crimea and Sevastopol) was illegal. A referendum was organized there, and residents voted to join Russia. I see no reason to doubt the conduct and results of the referendum.

    The dillies have already reacted to this by verbal expressions addressed to Marin, but ... "The dog diligently licks the owner's boot after the beatings." Wait, there is still popcorn ...
  19. Chaos
    Chaos 3 January 2017 20: 52
    +1
    Beauty and life wants true, not fake western
  20. behemot
    behemot 3 January 2017 20: 57
    0
    now svidomye went wild savage howl, and bite each other's asses. Well, nothing, chubati, howl!
  21. domnich
    domnich 3 January 2017 21: 24
    +8
    Quote: 1536
    they will say that the "Maidan" and the "revolution of guiding" in Ukraine were organized by the Russian government in order to "squeeze" Crimea


    Immediately they started talking. My American acquaintance (former co-worker) very persuasively convinced me on Skype that Maidan was a special operation of the FSB with the goal of “squeezing” Crimea. I also wrote to him on Skype in writing all that I think of the USA with their §5 billion for the coup and their lying media. On this I stopped communicating - I realized that it was useless to reeducate.
  22. domnich
    domnich 3 January 2017 21: 32
    +7
    Quote: Zymran
    Hehe, I remember very well how her dad, completely official, was growing up in the media. They called it Foschizd. And now it’s how it turned.


    Marin, I remember, had a “grater” with his dad about his ultra-right radicalism. She moved the pope out of big politics, and modified the party somewhat in a more decent direction. It is possible to cheer for her, good luck to her!
  23. Anton Boldakov
    Anton Boldakov 3 January 2017 22: 15
    0
    I read that Marine Le Pen will be banned from entering Ukraine ... The poor woman will not survive this ban. It would not have to pump it in the Crimea
  24. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 3 January 2017 22: 58
    +3
    At Le Pen's headquarters, everyone arrives in shock. Entry to Ukraine will be closed. SBU has filed an international wanted list, French, along with Russian, is prohibited by law on the territory of Nezalezhnaya. French perfumery is withdrawn from sale, in their place appeared Ukrainian cologne "Evening Mariupol" and perfume "Zhmerynka Noir". Finally. Instead of French comedies, a new blockbuster, tragicomedy "Evenings on a Farm Near Debaltseve"
  25. andron-30
    andron-30 4 January 2017 00: 06
    +1
    almost my same age and views are the same, if I hadn’t been married to her, such a lady would have made an offer, forgive me, my wife, whom I simply adore and love.
  26. andron-30
    andron-30 4 January 2017 00: 41
    +4
    if someone in the French parliament recognized Crimea as Russian in the end it will be, but it doesn’t matter who recognized it or how, RUSSIA told our Crimea, the rest sha, it will be so.
  27. Fagelov
    Fagelov 4 January 2017 08: 48
    +2
    Quote: Observer2014
    So with all due respect, we don’t need to tell tales about the special character warehouse of the Crimeans and about not having time to brainwash.

    They tried to brainwash the Crimeans. Nothing succeeded. A pitiful group of "Svidomo" who went to bed under the so-called. "Mejlis", headed by Pilunsky, tried to oppose the "Crimean Spring". They were simply swept out of the way. The Crimeans, in February 2014, left aside all tactical differences, united and defended their right to be with Russia. Pathetic attempts, in hindsight, to question our Crimean choice, are ridiculous and inadequate. The fact is on the face: Crimea in Russia, Russia in Crimea!
  28. BOB044
    BOB044 4 January 2017 09: 59
    0
    Crimea became a part of Russia in 1784. And Marie Lepin is well done. And all the accession to the Ukrainian SSR Khrushchev Crimea. Suck, Crimea was and will be Russia.
  29. Taygerus
    Taygerus 4 January 2017 13: 13
    0
    Krasava, in contrast to the lack of power of France
  30. Munchhausen
    Munchhausen 4 January 2017 18: 20
    +2
    I would say not just lawfully, but historically fair. And if you add post-maid yellow-blue madness here - I absolutely support it. Hello Crimeans from Kiev.
    1. andron-30
      andron-30 4 January 2017 19: 04
      +1
      change your profile picture be afraid of GOD
  31. andron-30
    andron-30 4 January 2017 19: 02
    +2
    here it’s not some who write that Russia allegedly merged Donbass and Lugansk, Crimea and Sevastopol were saved, but it means they didn’t, and therefore they could have decided so, and recognize the honor if it weren’t for Khrushchev’s drunken trick with a gift to Crimea, Ukraine and there wouldn’t be a reason for this conversation, and what the DNI and LC are concerned with, Russia helps as much as it can, we in Russia do not live very basely, but we suffer, but how else?