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Turkish media: a terrorist attack in Istanbul made a citizen of Kyrgyzstan

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The Turkish state television channel TRT reports that it has established the identity of a terrorist who, in the costume of Santa Claus, organized a terrorist attack at a nightclub in Istanbul. Recall that a terrorist shot Reina club visitors - the victims of the attack were 39 people (including one Russian woman), five more are currently in serious condition in Turkish clinics.


The channel showed a terrorist passport. If you believe the published information, the shooting in Istanbul was perpetrated by 28-year-old citizen of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan Yahye Mashrapov.

Turkish media: a terrorist attack in Istanbul made a citizen of Kyrgyzstan


Recall that the responsibility for the attack on a nightclub, in which at that moment there were up to half a thousand people, was assumed by the terrorist group Islamic State (banned in the Russian Federation).

It is reported that the Turkish secret services find out whether Mashrapov had any accomplices in the course of the terrorist act. 12 people have already been arrested, but the Istanbul police at the moment have no clear evidence against any of them.

Recall that after the terrorist attack in Berlin, the local police also announced the arrest of a terrorist. However, after the interrogations it turned out that a completely different person was driving a multi-ton truck to the crowd of people at the Christmas fair. A few days later, he was shot by a policeman in Milan, Italy.
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  1. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 3 January 2017 14: 45
    +3
    It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 3 January 2017 14: 51
      +13
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?

      There are many immigrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus in ISIS, nothing surprising, in fact, the PKK did not do such attacks, yes, against the army or the police, the Kurds can. what
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 3 January 2017 15: 26
        +9
        Quote: vovanpain
        Quote: Strezhevchanin
        It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?

        There are many immigrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus in ISIS, nothing surprising, in fact, the PKK did not do such attacks, yes, against the army or the police, the Kurds can. what

        As I wrote earlier, there are enough geeks in any nation. But this is no reason to blame everyone indiscriminately. negative
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 3 January 2017 15: 38
          +11
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          As I wrote earlier, there are enough geeks in any nation. But this is not a reason to blame everyone indiscriminately

          And no one Pasha indiscriminately blames any innocent people for any terrorist attack, but as he wrote earlier, the Kurds (PKK) make their sorties mainly against the army and the police, and the barmalei from ISIS, against everyone, and ISIS has a lot of immigrants from Central Asia and the Muslim regions of the post-Soviet space, what to say Jihadi Tolik from Noyabrsk Khanty Mansiysk District, and the quiet woman and excellent student Varia Karaulova. request After all, if she got to Syria, they would put on her a suicide belt and send her to some nightclub, and not necessarily in Turkey, at which she would have changed more than a dozen "husbands" before that. drinks hi
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 3 January 2017 15: 45
            +9
            Well what can I add ... Good barmales - neutralized barmales! am
            A balanced, normal person with a stable psyche is unlikely to grab an AK and run to mow whoever is pointed out with shouts like: "Allahu Akbar" or "Heroiam - sala". Inadequate. am
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 3 January 2017 20: 23
              0
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              A balanced, normal person with a stable psyche is unlikely to grab an AK and run to mow whoever is pointed out with shouts like: "Allahu Akbar" or "Heroiam - sala". Inadequate. am

              and what, excuse me, will he do? Sitting at home on the couch in front of the TV?
      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 3 January 2017 15: 43
        +3
        The Daesh is well placed brainwashing. When a person consciously destroys himself, it means that much is already indifferent to him in this world ...
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 3 January 2017 16: 04
        +7
        Quote: vovanpain
        There are many immigrants from Central Asia and the Caucasus in ISIS, nothing surprising

        Nothing surprising ... only Did he, in the costume of Santa Claus in his pocket, forget his passport? Some strange terrorists went — the one that rammed the Christmas market — thrust a passport under the seat. In Nuirka, on September 11, everything that was possible burned down and collapsed - only the terrorist passports survived ... Somehow, somehow, the Turks adopted the unsuccessful experience of finding the guilty from America ....
        1. svd-xnumx
          svd-xnumx 3 January 2017 18: 05
          +2
          Nothing surprising ... But did he forget his passport in his Santa Claus costume in his pocket?
          The story is almost like a joke, but it happens. In our village on a neighboring street a goat was stolen, so the thief at the crime scene lost his passport.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 3 January 2017 18: 31
            +4
            Quote: svd-xnumx
            In our village on a nearby street, a goat was stolen, so the thief at the crime scene lost his passport.

            I think this is not the case. They didn’t steal a goat ... It’s a goat that the local bums steal, but because of drunkenness he lost his passport. And here - not fools are planning these attacks. Either the passport is in a conspicuous place so that the investigation instead of the right goes to the left, or the investigation really needs to find at least some culprit. Remember the Malaysian "Boeing" - it has not yet reached the ground, and America already has "proof" that Russia shot it down. Yes, and Bin Laden on September 11 was in an American military hospital, either in the Saudis or in the Emirates ... At the time when he was already "appointed" guilty ...
          2. Mishaca72
            Mishaca72 3 January 2017 22: 41
            +2
            But in our city, he attacked one woman. Well, how did he know that she was a slaughterer at a local meat-packing plant. She filled his face with him, he ate his legs. But he dropped his passport. That was a laugh.
    2. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 3 January 2017 14: 52
      +3
      There are many problems in Kyrgyzstan and it is not difficult to recruit extremists in such countries. Those who grew up in the USSR, for the most part, are vaccinated against this, and those who were born in perestroika later on are no longer there.
    3. raki-uzo
      raki-uzo 3 January 2017 15: 01
      +3
      Nikto ne skazal, chto eto kurdy sdelali, s samogo nachala bylo skazano, chto eto IGIL !.
      A terroristy-kurdy i bez etogo nemalo natvorili v Turtsii. S nimi otdel'nyj razgovor vedetsja.
      Vam by uzhe "shablon" svoj pomenjat '.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 3 January 2017 19: 00
        0
        Quote: raki-uzo
        Nikto ne skazal, chto eto kurdy sdelali, s samogo nachala bylo skazano, chto eto IGIL !.
        A terroristy-kurdy i bez etogo nemalo natvorili v Turtsii. S nimi otdel'nyj razgovor vedetsja.
        Vam by uzhe "shablon" svoj pomenjat '.

        The method of fooling and brainwashing naive and poorly educated people from Central Asia, although not only, comes to the forefront. Terrorism is losing its national shape, almost any inhabitant of the planet can recruit, but most easily with residents of religious areas from rich countries.
        True, there is more and more suspicion that these are random people, a terrorist attack, as a rule in Europe, and a Muslim terrorist. The story with passports in general suggests a certain meaning that everyone shows openly
        Someone strongly wants to pit Muslims with the Christian world, the new war will be just religious
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 3 January 2017 20: 26
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          Terrorism is losing its national shape, almost any inhabitant of the planet can recruit, but the easiest way is with residents of religious areas from rich countries.

          The easiest way is in countries with pronounced social inequality. Where there is no prospect of any kind for most people and whose destiny is total poverty
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 3 January 2017 22: 18
            0
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Quote: APASUS
            Terrorism is losing its national shape, almost any inhabitant of the planet can recruit, but the easiest way is with residents of religious areas from rich countries.

            The easiest way is in countries with pronounced social inequality. Where there is no prospect of any kind for most people and whose destiny is total poverty

            I missed RICH countries, here it’s not accurate, sorry sorry .......
    4. 210ox
      210ox 3 January 2017 15: 52
      +4
      This infection has penetrated into Kyrgyzstan to the fullest .. Unfortunately, a beautiful country, maybe like in Syria ...
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 3 January 2017 16: 08
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        A beautiful country, maybe like in Syria ...

        He was in Osh, in Frunze - still under the Union - heavenly places ... A special memory - torpedo melons, not in kilograms, but in pieces - for a ruble .... Only there he learned what peaches are. Since then I haven’t eat peaches in Russia - grass ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox 3 January 2017 16: 14
          +2
          My relatives lived there .. In Tokmak and Tyup .. Issyk-Kul ...
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Quote: 210ox
          A beautiful country, maybe like in Syria ...

          He was in Osh, in Frunze - still under the Union - heavenly places ... A special memory - torpedo melons, not in kilograms, but in pieces - for a ruble .... Only there he learned what peaches are. Since then I haven’t eat peaches in Russia - grass ...
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 3 January 2017 18: 33
            +2
            Quote: 210ox
            My relatives lived there .. In Tokmak and Tyup .. Issyk-Kul ...

            My relatives lived in Osh (Russians), and both there and in Frunze I was on duty. Paradise places. There were ...
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 17: 54
      +3
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?

      The Kurds did not carry out attacks against the civilian population. Representatives of power and military structures, as a rule, became the objects of their attention, while civilians suffered only if they were close by. If it’s wrong, correct, but I don’t remember such cases.
      1. raki-uzo
        raki-uzo 3 January 2017 19: 16
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Quote: Strezhevchanin
        It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?

        The Kurds did not carry out attacks against the civilian population. Representatives of power and military structures, as a rule, became the objects of their attention, while civilians suffered only if they were close by. If it’s wrong, correct, but I don’t remember such cases.

        Ssylka na terakty PKK (RPK)
        http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2016/05/2
        0 / pkk-terrorists-long-history-of-attacking-civili
        ans-a-grim-timeline
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 3 January 2017 19: 22
          0

          Ssylka na terakty PKK (RPK)
          http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2016/05/2
          0 / pkk-terrorists-long-history-of-attacking-civili
          ans-a-grim-timeline [/ quote]
          Alas, dear - but the link does not work. Gives out just such a "hat" - "PAGES
          CANNOT BE FOUND
          The page you are looking for has been migrated or does not exist.
          Please use the backspace key to return to the previous page.
          ".... Apparently, the resource is "foreign" and I am not sure that the material is presented without bias.
          1. raki-uzo
            raki-uzo 3 January 2017 21: 23
            +1
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Kur
            dish%E2%80%93Turkish_conflict_(1978%E2%80%93prese
            nt)
            I hope it helps. Respectfully...
    6. SSR
      SSR 3 January 2017 21: 49
      0
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?

      and here along the way it is Uzbek ..... and the name and surname ....
      I mean the fact that in the former USSR the Uzbeks are the most religious, then the Tajiks, then the south of Kyrgyzstan and then the Kazakhs ... I am silent about the Turkmens because they are still deaf in them.
    7. diver1977
      diver1977 4 January 2017 06: 33
      0
      The Turks made a mistake and apologized, all suspicions were removed.
      And you are already burying Kyrgyzstan here.
  2. sergey32
    sergey32 3 January 2017 14: 50
    +3
    When it comes to our power that it is high time to introduce a visa regime with Central Asia.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 3 January 2017 15: 01
      +6
      Then we will have less influence in these countries, and the Eurasian Economic Union will have to dissolve, because freedom is supposed there for the movement of capital and labor. And this is unacceptable, because our president considers the EurAsEC his merit and great victory in the post-Soviet space and a counterweight to the EU, China, the USA and other large sharks.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 3 January 2017 15: 06
        +3
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Then we will have less influence in these countries, and the Eurasian Economic Union will have to dissolve, because freedom is supposed there for the movement of capital and labor. And this is unacceptable, because our president considers the EurAsEC his merit and great victory in the post-Soviet space and a counterweight to the EU, China, the USA and other large sharks.

        Well, that’s why supporters of expulsion and introduction of visas do not understand these basic things.
        1. Comrade Glebov
          Comrade Glebov 3 January 2017 15: 26
          +3
          Quote: Yeraz
          Well, that’s why supporters of expulsion and introduction of visas do not understand these basic things.

          And they don’t understand that dofiga and more Russians live there. Also, they do not understand that the struggle for the minds of people living in Central Asia is an urgent problem of the Russian Federation. If Islamists get there in commercial quantities, then believe me, the visa regime and expulsions will not help. Russia needs to increase its presence in Central Asia, especially since in the same Kyrgyzstan Russians are treated very well (from there, so I know).
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 3 January 2017 20: 28
            +1
            Quote: Comrade Glebov
            And they do not understand that dofiga and more Russians live there. Also, they do not understand that the struggle for the minds of people living in Central Asia is an urgent problem of the Russian Federation.
            except that in Kazakhstan, the northern regions - the Russians were expelled from the rest of Central Asia even during the collapse of the USSR
            1. petrkuznetsov
              petrkuznetsov 4 January 2017 11: 01
              0
              You do not know, do not insert your 5 cents. I live in Bishkek, there are about 200 thousand Russians. At our entrance, out of 16 apartments in 14, Russians live. In Moscow, the percentage of non-Russians is higher.
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 4 January 2017 12: 59
                0
                Quote: petrkuznetsov
                You do not know, do not insert your 5 cents. I live in Bishkek, there are about 200 thousand Russians. At our entrance, out of 16 apartments in 14, Russians live. In Moscow, the percentage of non-Russians is higher.

                Well, let's work with the numbers - the Russian population of Bishkek for 1989 was 345387 (55,72%) for 2009 192080 (23,78%). And this is in the capital, where there is more or less order, 20 thousand Russians have disappeared in 150 years ?! I am silent about the province, below I gave data on the Russian-speaking population in Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan as a whole. Naturally, there is less decline in the capitals than in the whole country
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 3 January 2017 17: 00
        +3
        Thunderbolt
        Then we will have less influence in these countries, and the Eurasian Economic Union will have to dissolve, because it implies freedom for the movement of capital and labor.

        Influence due to the surrender of the country's own sovereignty is no longer influence, but fiction.
        Better read the article "Financial risks of the national security of the Russian Federation from foreign labor migration" - https://topwar.ru/71406-finansovye-riski-nacional
        noy-bezopasnosti-rf-ot-inostrannoy-trudovoy-migra
        cii.html
        According to official data from the FMS of Russia, in November 2014, 11420007 people were in the Russian Federation, and 16458913 people entered the country. - http://www.fms.gov.ru/about/statistics/data/detai
        ls / 110975 /
        However, according to unofficial data from Russian border guards, the number of foreigners actually entering the country is much more. The border guards note in 2011 year (and now 2015 year) that when foreigners cross the Russian border 40-50% of them, entering Russia, illegally fill out their migration cards, which is why the border guards of the Russian Federation and does not count. (The border guards in 2011 said that in 2001-2003, the number of illegible migration cards was of the order of 10%, but then mostly the urban population was traveling to Russia, and now - in 2011 - people from rural areas go, There are no remote places in the country where there are no schools anymore.These people are simply completely illiterate.) Therefore, to determine the real number of foreigners entering the country, official data should be increased by a maximum of 50%.
        Then the real number of foreigners who entered the Russian Federation in November 2014, to the maximum will be:
        16 458 913 x 150% = 24 688 370 (people)
        FOURTH. Compare the results of the first and second options for calculating the maximum demand Q max so-called foreign "labor" migrants in US dollars on December 5-10, 2014. This is necessary in order to determine the financial risks of Russia from the use of foreign labor migrants in the Russian Federation in relation to the stable stability of the financial system of Russia, which allows us to properly navigate in the field of taking adequate measures to stabilize the exchange rate of its national currency in the international financial market. We get a depressing picture.
        So, the difference between the real and official need of the so-called in. work. migrants in the Russian Federation on December 10-12, 2014, according to the calculation, amounted to:
        34,290 billion $ - 15.861 billion $ = 18.428 billion $
        Firstly, this means that the Ministry of Finance, as well as the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, did not take into account in their financial balance the real value of the imminent excess of the country's short-term demand in US dollar currency by foreign investors. work. migrants. Moreover, due to the lack of a proper accounting system on the Russian border and in the FMS system of the Russian Federation, the real movement of foreign citizens across the Russian border was not taken into account. This is a systemic error in the field of national security of the country.
        Secondly, business. risk in fin. the system of Russia achieves an unacceptable value only from this one deed: 34,290 billion. $ / 15,861 mld. $ = 2,16 = 216%
        Namely, in the theory of design and business conduct, it is indicated that with all - cumulative - business risks equal to 50% or more (and even one equal to 50%), a business project with such data is already CRITICALLY unprofitable (!) And that it definitely cannot be started! otherwise he will bankrupt. And in the Russian Federation, as this calculation shows, fin. country risk from int. work. migration by December 2014 turned out to be 4,32 times more than the maximum permissible critical. level as 216% >> 50%. Those. just rolls over!
        And here one cannot pay attention at all to the peculiarities of the so-called ideological concept itself. "Free market" of capital, goods and labor of M. Friedman with his monetarism.
        First, in practice, when implementing the concept of M. Friedman in Russia (and in other countries too), it turns out that in. work. migrants, although they receive a salary in Russia. In the final analysis, rubles still work for the American currency, and, in fact, they pay “taxes” from working in the Russian Federation to the US Federal Reserve bankers (with its permanent representative office in England) in the form of a bank dollar “usurious%” - and taking the slave. places on the Russian labor market for the local Russian population, tearing it away from their own means of production as a means of subsistence. That is, it turns out that in fact in the end result, the manager of the Russian means of production and the employer for foreign labor migrants on Russian soil is not Russia, namely, the US Federal Reserve bankers! (It is “their” people who advocate unlimited foreign labor migration to the Russian Federation.)
        At the same time, the bankers of the US Fed as a result of using foreign labor migration in Russia are enriched by selling their currency twice. The first time is when the Central Bank of the Russian Federation issues rubles for purchased American dollars in order to print rubles in general and launch the financial system of the Russian Federation as a whole, as such, and in particular to pay for labor on its Russian labor market, including foreign labor migrants. And the second time, when foreign labor migrants themselves pay their earned money in rubles without fail, when they are exported from the Russian Federation, they are exchanged for US dollars, i.e. when they make again the purchase of the same amount of dollars that Russia once bought for them to pay for their labor - and again “with usurious%”! As a result, US Federal Reserve bankers from using foreign labor migrants in the Russian Federation (and in similar dollarized countries) get a real double financial benefit from "easy money" from selling US currency when foreign migrant workers do the same one-time work. And the more foreign labor migrants in Russia, the more beneficial it is for US Federal Reserve bankers.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 3 January 2017 17: 49
          +2
          Comrade Glebov
          Also, they do not understand that the struggle for the minds of people living in Central Asia is an urgent problem of the Russian Federation. If Islamists get there in commercial quantities, then believe me, the visa regime and expulsions will not help.
          And what do you propose, comrade Glebov, to remove the problem of deformation of the Russian labor market due to an oversupply of the so-called of foreign labor migrants in Russia to a regime without any brakes at all?
          This problem has already been discussed in the media and on TV in the Russian Federation.
          For example, this article "Financial Risks of the National Security of the Russian Federation from Foreign Labor Migration" was accompanied by the video "Migrant workers The history of all-Russian deception."
          See "Guest workers. The history of all-Russian deception". Upload date: Oct 1. 2011 r.

          1. Comrade Glebov
            Comrade Glebov 4 January 2017 11: 05
            +1
            There is no deformation of the labor market, the Kyrgyz work where the Russians will not go (as I imagine a Muscovite with an apartment as a janitor, I laugh until I drop)
            Quote: Tatiana
            And what do you suggest

            I propose the following, to finance (at least to throw textbooks, not more) not government officials, but a group of Russian language teachers who want to teach Russian in the south of the republic and bring our culture and Russian idea there. The Russian Embassy dismissed them, they say, do it yourself. I only agreed to ascribe to myself all the successes in case there are positive results. Just not throwing at the mercy of fate people who treat us well is not difficult.
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            except that in Kazakhstan, the northern regions - the Russians were expelled from the rest of Central Asia even during the collapse of the USSR

            Well, I’m probably the last Russian in Central Asia. Now I have returned home to Bishkek, to take a break from Moscow, to see my relatives and friends. We are all exiled here, so exiled ... And the Russian drama theater is still standing here, furious little by little, and the Russian song ensemble (where I worked) also sings and dances, the leader (Russian both by blood and by thought) title deserved, and the official language is still Russian (if the Russian Federation makes efforts to spread it, and this is precisely in the interests of the Russian Federation, and will continue to be official) and Russian culture is accepted. And for a week I will go to Tashkent to visit my friend Kolyan, a Russian Ukrainian who has a huge Russian-Ukrainian family, also, probably, the same "expelled" by the Uzbeks. So that...
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 4 January 2017 12: 52
              +1
              Quote: Comrade Glebov
              And for a week I will go to Tashkent to visit my friend Kolyan, a Russian Ukrainian who has a huge Russian-Ukrainian family, also, probably, the same "expelled" by the Uzbeks. So that...

              Relatives left Tajikistan as well, and who managed to leave Uzbekistan. There are official census data from Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan at the time of the collapse of the USSR and for 2010-2016. Russians in Uzbekistan 1989 - 1653478 (8,35%), 2013 - 809530 (2,7%), Kyrgyzstan 1989 - 916558 (21,53%), 2016 - 360580 (5,99%), Tajikistan 1989 - 388481 (7,63 , 2010%), 34838 - 0,46 (XNUMX%). Hang on noodles about Kolyanov, etc.
              1. Comrade Glebov
                Comrade Glebov 4 January 2017 15: 43
                0
                My dear, I live here, and not a single bastard has ever said to me "you are Russian, get out of here", if Russians leave, it is because of shitty salaries and high prices (which is, that is), and not because for being driven. I am now sitting at my home in Bishkek, my mother lives here, teaches and is a respected member of society, and you are hanging me on the ears about the officers. statistics. Look at the same statistics, how many Kyrgyz left Kyrgyzstan and you will understand that it is not a matter of nationality. Nazism, alas, only in Ukraine and Russia (is it funny, some "Chuchmek" did not recognize me as a native speaker of the Russian language, because I refused to pay a bribe) and it was in Russia that Russians who came from the former Soviet republics refused to be considered people, yes and now this happens too. So don't la-la. It's like people who have never been to the DPRK tell me how bad it is there. And don't stutter about the target audience.
                1. Stirbjorn
                  Stirbjorn 4 January 2017 17: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Comrade Glebov
                  So do not la la. It's like people who have never been to the DPRK tell me how bad it is. And it’s better not to stutter about Central Asia.
                  statistics say that the bulk left after the collapse of the USSR - then there were shitty salaries everywhere. The Kyrgyz are now leaving to work, and this is not emigration at all. The fact that persecution has not personally affected you does not mean that the rest is the same. Simple facts I cited above
                  1. Comrade Glebov
                    Comrade Glebov 4 January 2017 19: 25
                    0
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    Kyrgyz are leaving to work now

                    Read the same statistics on the number of emigrated Kyrgyz who dumped irrevocably and not only in the Russian Federation and you will see that no less of them left. Moreover, people respected and educated were leaving.
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    The fact that persecution did not concern you personally

                    Where are you from? Have you personally touched? Or again "one woman in the bazaar"?
                    Not only not me, but also none of my friends have touched, in the country there are so many Russian and pro-Russian organizations that you get tired of getting rid of fingers. And not only am I a Russian, also a communist, in a party from 18 years, nobody is repressing me for this.
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    Simple facts I cited above

                    Look at the "simple facts", the official statistics of the flight of Russians from Yeltsin's Russia, whistle. Was there also persecution? Come to the major cities of Central Asia, look at the population, dofig Russians. In poor cities there are fewer, they fled from there, fled from poverty. I have traveled all over Asia, not only in Turkmenistan, so "facts" are "facts" and facts are facts.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 3 January 2017 14: 53
    +1
    If you believe the published information, the shooting in Istanbul was carried out by 28-year-old citizen of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan Yahya Mashrapov.


    Yeah, if you believe ... only fools are not here.
    When planning such actions, fake documents are usually used.
    Who was actually the shooter still needs to be established when capturing him.
    Unless of course he will not be shot as usual throwing the ends into the water.
    The Turkish special services have screwed up large twice already ... skipping such attacks TURKEY will inevitably slide into chaos.
    Erdogan will be accused of failure to counter terrorism with the corresponding consequences.
    1. thinker
      thinker 3 January 2017 17: 08
      0
      Here's a detailed refutation -
      I have nothing to do with the terrorist attack in Turkey

      http://www.turmush.kg/ru/news:1355146?from=portal
      & place = top
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  5. Yeraz
    Yeraz 3 January 2017 15: 12
    +5
    Why does the VO disseminate unverified data? From the very beginning of the terrorist attack, Turkish media have been saying that Santa has changed clothes, although the authorities have warned the media and networks not to spread misinformation. And according to the video and according to the victims, there was a man dressed in black and not in SANTU.
    And about this citizen is also not clear.
    First, they threw a photo from the airport saying that this is a citizen of Uzbekistan.
    Then came info.

    Police detained the family of the organizer of the attack in an Istanbul nightclub. According to Habertürk, it was established that a terrorist who is a Uyghur Turk arrived in Konya on November 26 with his family.

    In order not to attract attention, he brought with him his wife and two children.

    Recall that the identity of the terrorist has been established; measures to detain him are currently ongoing.


    And now this citizen’s passport.

    Therefore, we are waiting for official confirmed data.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 3 January 2017 15: 18
      +1
      The Turks are stirring up water ... they simply cannot catch a terrorist, and they rush from one extreme to another.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 3 January 2017 15: 52
        +1
        And the terrorist witnesses say that the criminal was in black and not in a Santa suit.
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 3 January 2017 15: 18
      +2
      Quote: Yeraz
      Why does VO distribute unverified data.

      Well, they refer to, "The Turkish state TV channel TRT reports that ..." It's okay.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 3 January 2017 15: 57
        +2
        "Turks muddy the waters" is not the point. These attacks are for a long time. Erdogan actually welcomes religious commitment himself. And then his brothers Islamists plunge the country into chaos. Remember the history of Lebanon. Was a pearl region and then gradually plunged into civil war. Add the Kurdish problem. Turkey is splitting. Kemalists, Islamists, Kurds and NATO (Americans). Erdogan, who himself led to this, is now at a loss. The old allies turned out to be not allies, but now the hope is on those whom he considered the enemy - Iran + Syria in alliance with Russia, who are really fighting terror. And what about now to be with the radicals whom he supported - either he will change his clothes, or they will knock him down ?! Maybe he will now attend to his borders and connections with radicals? Will Erdogan grow wiser or what? hi
  6. samarin1969
    samarin1969 3 January 2017 15: 38
    +1
    And why did the Turks not please the "Kirghiz"? as in the DPRK.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 January 2017 15: 48
    +2
    Undoubtedly, the assassin had training - military or Barmaley - but he did. It was reported that he released about 7 stores (it was possible to light a cigarette from the trunk, probably), but with such a fire it was quite effective (no matter how creepy it sounds). Uncharacteristically for ISIS, the assassin is not a suicide bomber, but a fighter, well trained and probably with combat experience. Perhaps under the "battle cocktail" - a normal person will not withstand such stress.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 January 2017 16: 42
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It is uncharacteristic for ISIS - the assassin is not a suicide bomber - but a militant well trained and probably with combat experience.

      Well, it depends on what is considered characteristic. Being a suicide bomber in Isil is a topic of Arabs, among Caucasians and Türk peoples there are practically no suicide bombers in ISIS, they are all famous for their fighting qualities.
      In Turkey, it is easier to use the Türks and Caucasians. Perhaps they thought that they would shoot him there, and the dude turned out to be agile and even managed to escape. He acted very clearly and thoughtfully, it is immediately clear that they are not Arab in one extreme))
  8. EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 3 January 2017 16: 30
    0
    ALREADY REFUTED ... and you opened your mouths here
    HERE to you and military review
  9. 1536
    1536 3 January 2017 17: 14
    0
    But what about claims that terrorism is international and has no nationality? In any case, it is clear where the legs are growing: we must talk about the murder of our ambassador! First, a terrorist attack in Berlin (very strange, with a Polish "driver's track"), and now in Turkey, slipping the "Kyrgyz trace" into the investigation. Behind all this are the British and the Americans, Obama personally and his "intelligence community", or in a simple way - a gang of gangsters. Trump is unlikely to be able to stop this at full speed.
    We well remember the statement by J. Biden that the United States will strike Russia in "at the time that we choose, and under the circumstances that will have the greatest effect" (J. Biden, 2016). In all likelihood, this time is approaching, if you do not respond with blow to blow!
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 3 January 2017 17: 53
      +1
      Quote: 1536
      we need to talk about the murder of our ambassador!

      Do you think the killing of 40 people in Istanbul, among which only 1 citizen of the Russian Federation, the investigation of the FSB and other special services will go awry ????
  10. Bort radist
    Bort radist 3 January 2017 17: 58
    +1
    Yahya Mashrapov, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan, denied involvement in the terrorist attack in the nightclub of Istanbul, committed on New Year's Eve.

    Earlier, Turkish media reported that 28-year-old Mashrapov is suspected of carrying out the attack.

    The man explained that on December 31 he was still in Kyrgyzstan, and flew to Turkey on January 1. On Tuesday, upon returning to Bishkek, he was interrogated by officers of the National Security Committee.

    “They interrogated me for an hour. They explained that they interrogated me in connection with the terrorist attack on New Year's Eve, said that I looked a little like a criminal with a photo, asked for forgiveness and put me on a plane, ”AKIpress quoted Mashrapov as saying.
    http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2617591/
  11. Holoy
    Holoy 3 January 2017 17: 59
    0
    Duc them to us fig!
  12. raki-uzo
    raki-uzo 3 January 2017 19: 14
    +2
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: Strezhevchanin
    It turns out not the Kurds, the gap pattern?

    The Kurds did not carry out attacks against the civilian population. Representatives of power and military structures, as a rule, became the objects of their attention, while civilians suffered only if they were close by. If it’s wrong, correct, but I don’t remember such cases.

    https://topwar.ru/106637-tureckie-smi-terakt-v-st
    ambule-ustroil-grazhdanin-kirgizii.html # comments
    Tak negumanno Vy vyrazilis' ... tol'ko by znali ... Eta terroristicheskaja organizatsija, chto tol'ko ne tvorila v Turtsii v techenii mnogih let. Vosnovnom soldaty i kurdy stradali. Pochemu kurdy? Potomu chto oni hoteli mirno zhit 's turkami. A eti terroristy ih ubili i ubili v techenii dolgih let. Zhal ', zhal', mne tut prihodilos 'vam ssylkoj starat'sja dokazat'. A poslednoe vremja oni sozdali pod gruppi - chtoby zapad ih ne rugal za terrorizm. Tut vasha terminologija ne pravil'na. Kurdy tut zhivut spokojno, my s nimi sosedy, rodstvenniki, druz'ja. Kurdy-terroristi ot nih otlichaetsja.
    Vot vam ssylka. Esli ne utomit vas, postarajtes 'do kontsa prochitat'.
    http://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2016/05/2
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    ans-a-grim-timeline
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 3 January 2017 20: 43
      +3
       raki-uzo
      Dear hüseyin avni daülı! I looked at all your comments on VO. You perfectly speak and write Russian in Cyrillic! In my opinion, this is not difficult for you.
      Then why are you distorting our Russian written language with Latin letters ?! For what?
      Or do you still just imitate the long-standing colonial policy of the Latinization of Russia by the "collective West" to destroy the national identity of the Russian people?
      For example, it is unpleasant for me to read the beautiful written Russian language of a foreigner (and you, apparently, are from Soviet Azerbaijanis) in Latin letters. This is like an attempt on my Russian national identity. You offend me with this.
      1. raki-uzo
        raki-uzo 3 January 2017 21: 15
        +2
        I apologize if I really offended you. It’s just easier for me to write in latin. I am one hundred percent Turk. He studied Russian at the institute in adulthood. Therefore, sometimes problems arise especially in the grammar of the Russian language.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 3 January 2017 22: 01
          +2
          raki-uzo
          Dear hüseyin avni daülı! Try not to switch to the Latin alphabet. Otherwise it is wrong in all respects. And it is difficult to read your comments fluently - it takes too much time to read them. Such comments are usually overlooked. And it is necessary that everyone read your comments! You are just for this on the site "VO" - for communication and mutual understanding!
          Politically, the Russians will not tell you anything out of delicacy, but they will not have a subconscious trust in you because of the historical memory of the Russian people about the constant aggression of the “collective West” against Russia and the Russians for many centuries.
          And in terms of philology, you personally have a talent for foreign languages! Take as much as possible from this talent for full knowledge of the Russian language.
          Cyrillic reveals the system of building the Russian language, and the Latin obscures it.
          And using the Latin alphabet, you are definitely losing your understanding of this language system and thereby, as it were, you are robbing yourself of your maximum knowledge of the Russian language and even, quite possibly, of building your own business career. Indeed, knowledge of foreign languages ​​gives a person a great plus for building his personal career.
          I wish you success and all the best to you!