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Ukraine has failed the contract for the supply of Thailand tanks "Oplot-T"

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From the territory of Ukraine there are reports that the Ukrainian defense industry has actually failed the delivery order tanks "Hold" in Thailand. It is reported that the contract is not being implemented due to the lack of the proper number of qualified specialists. On the Online Ukraine.ru provides a commentary on this issue from the director of the Ukrainian Information and Analytical Center for Political Scientist Andrei Zolotaryov:


Thailand tank contract. It took an elementary thing - to grind the ring under the shoulder strap of the tower. The machines are there, the money has already come from the customer, and there are no more people who could do the work of very high precision. Some died, others in the (Kharkov market) Barabashova left. Therefore, the notorious is not surprising история with a mortar "Hammer". Capturing the drawings, it took the Nazis three months to make a quality copy of the Soviet regimental mortar. And we have the second or third case of mortar rupture. This simply reflects the banal quality.


Ukraine has failed the contract for the supply of Thailand tanks "Oplot-T"


Recall that the contract with Thailand for the supply of 54 tanks "Oplot-T" was signed in 2011 year. By the beginning of 2016, Ukraine was supposed to start supplying tanks to the country that had placed an order for 241 million dollars. As it turns out, over the past year and a half, for the Ministry of Defense of Thailand, not a single new tank was produced, and Kiev once again sent a request to Bangkok for a possible shift in the deadlines for the fulfillment of obligations.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 30 December 2016 15: 54
    +26
    Who would doubt that! Ukraine is the same weapons country now as Ganduras. We are waiting for the presentation of Tirex and buy pop food.
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 30 December 2016 16: 02
      +10
      Quote: NEXUS
      Who would doubt that! Ukraine is the same weapons country now as Ganduras.

      They would have to think about themselves, and they would export, soon they will not be able to produce anything at all.
      RS; Do not tell me, is there a scrap metal collection point in the photo?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 December 2016 16: 05
        +16
        Quote: katalonec2014
        RS; Do not tell me, is there a scrap metal collection point in the photo?

        Yuzhmash or Kharkov Tractor Plant ... now these once-defense giants have become such.
        1. cniza
          cniza 30 December 2016 16: 07
          +10
          And in the request, they accuse Russia, they say it does not allow to fulfill the contract.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 30 December 2016 16: 34
            +18
            Quote: cniza
            And in the request, they accuse Russia, they say it does not allow to fulfill the contract.

            Vitya, well, who else could be to blame for Svidomosaurus except Russia? Honduras is not! laughing
          2. commbatant
            commbatant 30 December 2016 22: 02
            +5
            So they are right, because many components for tanks are made ONLY in the Russian Federation (e.g. tank barrels) ...
        2. gloomy fox
          gloomy fox 30 December 2016 16: 49
          +4
          Kharkov already cut into scrap metal. Not long ago, the article was on this site about the X / T plant.
          1. activator
            activator 30 December 2016 18: 46
            +2
            Great experts KhTZ_ this is a tractor tank this ZiM
            Quote: frowning fox
            Kharkov already cut into scrap metal. Not long ago, the article was on this site about the X / T plant.
            1. commbatant
              commbatant 30 December 2016 22: 05
              +3
              right, they are cutting a tractor, apparently they will be transferred into the depths of the country so that the "maskals" do not get it when the Kharkov region becomes part of Novorossiya ...
              but most likely no one needs a tractor, except for the Russian Federation with KhTZ, so the "dad" will be delighted
              1. ssergn
                ssergn 30 December 2016 23: 38
                +3
                Quote: commbatant
                nobody needs


                Verily, to no one. And us too. Look at what ChTZ produces, the Kirov Plant ... MTZ in the end, what is their lineup.
                And hde here Kharkov?
                1. commbatant
                  commbatant 31 December 2016 00: 00
                  +1
                  let's not slander, yet we are kind
                  http://xtz.ua/
      2. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 30 December 2016 16: 06
        +5
        Quote: katalonec2014
        Do not tell me, is there a scrap metal collection point in the photo?

        Warehouse sorting made in the USSR. This is what is of the highest quality in the ruin.
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 30 December 2016 20: 23
        +3
        They should think about themselves, and they will export

        And heroes in ATO "fight" on this
        1. 1rl141
          1rl141 31 December 2016 00: 06
          +4
          Quote: Incvizitor
          They should think about themselves, and they will export

          And heroes in ATO "fight" on this

          What's this? A mobile toilet like a toilet? On one side of the "M" on the other "F"?
      4. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 31 December 2016 15: 27
        +2
        [i] [/ i]
        Quote: katalonec2014
        Quote: NEXUS
        Who would doubt that! Ukraine is the same weapons country now as Ganduras.

        They would have to think about themselves, and they would export, soon they will not be able to produce anything at all.

        In development of your topic. "The head hangs on a thread, and he thinks about the profit" ("Brother")
    2. 210ox
      210ox 30 December 2016 16: 09
      +4
      Tirex? So some gopniks stole it from him .. Yes, and there he is dear ...
      Quote: NEXUS
      Who would doubt that! Ukraine is the same weapons country now as Ganduras. We are waiting for the presentation of Tirex and buy pop food.
      1. katalonec2014
        katalonec2014 30 December 2016 16: 21
        +11
        Quote: 210ox
        Tirex? So some gopniks stole it

        It was an Azovian, Tirex secret development, two towers (one under the bottom, beating stealthily).
    3. rasputin17
      rasputin17 30 December 2016 18: 22
      +2
      How can you even sell what is a priori in nature and cannot be !!! wassat belay
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 December 2016 18: 47
        +2
        Quote: rasputin17
        How can you even sell what is a priori in nature and cannot be !!! wassat belay

        Well, the Igilovites were then sold by non-existing MANPADS workers.
        1. rasputin17
          rasputin17 30 December 2016 18: 55
          +1
          All they can sell is only the remnants of Soviet stocks that have not gone into the atom and be laying in the supply of someone else’s arms, acting as a screen. Existing production is not able to block its needs. They buy old stocks of ammunition from the former Warsaw Pact countries. hi
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 30 December 2016 23: 17
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      We are waiting for the presentation of Tirex and purchase pop food.

      And it started ....................
      Verkhovna Rada deputy, chairman of the parliamentary committee on national security and defense issues Sergei Pashinsky made a bold statement.
      In an interview with Channel 5, he said that Ukraine had surpassed Russia in the development of missile weapons by doing "unique things."
      “I declare responsibly, we have bypassed Russia in this type of weapon,” he said.
      1. ssergn
        ssergn 30 December 2016 23: 41
        +7
        Quote: APASUS
        I declare responsibly that we have bypassed Russia in this type of weapon, "he said.



        Essentially, they are going in the opposite direction. We’ll catch them here. laughing fellow
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 31 December 2016 17: 22
        +4
        Quote: APASUS
        “I declare responsibly, we have bypassed Russia in this type of weapon,” he said.

        Apparently, we are talking about those missiles that are now found in Syria - from gas cylinders with shanks welded to them.
    5. The comment was deleted.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 31 December 2016 11: 46
        +2
        Quote: mashinist
        "As it turns out, over the past year and a half ... not a single new tank has been produced" Au Vatana! Have you turned off critical thinking? Have a look at WIKI!

        Forest eagle, what are you talking about?
        Country Number of tanks
        Russia
        400 × T-90 + 4744 × T-80 + 7144 × T-72 + 4000 × T-64 + 689 × T-62 + 1200 × T-55 = 18177
        Ukraine
        2522

        What actually does not suit you? I would challenge this amount for Ukraine after the fighting in the Donbass, at least 30%
        Quote: mashinist
        "According to Interfax Ukraine, in May 2016, Ukraine delivered to Thailand the third batch of new main battle tanks (MBT)" Oplot "consisting of 10 vehicles. Thus, the total number of" Oplot "tanks in the Thai army was brought to 20 [67] Another batch of Oplot tanks in the amount of five vehicles arrived in Thailand in mid-November 2016.

        Considering that the tanks were manufactured in pursuance of a contract worth more than $ 240 million, signed by Ukrspetsexport on September 1, 2011 for the supply of the Thai army 49 new BM "Oplot-T" tanks and two armored recovery vehicles based on them, with a deadline contract by the end of 2014.
        I can’t understand what the joy is? That the deadline contract was not fulfilled or that they switched to the unit assembly. That you can’t hire people who can perform the work with high accuracy, the support ring of the tower.
        All problems to write ?????????
        1. commbatant
          commbatant 31 December 2016 14: 16
          0
          4000 × T-64 + 689 × T-62 + 1200 × T-55 removed from service since 2011 and put into scrap, until recently they also wanted to remove the T-80 from service, but senior comrades said to dismiss (those with gas turbines engines), because they work well at low temperatures and will be used (in a quantity of 3 pcs.) in the Soviet Arctic, probably now in Brussels they think that they are going to do tank armies of the Russian Federation in the Arctic
          The list of tanks of the Russian Federation:
          T-90 - 350 (+200 in warehouses)
          T-80 - 450 (+3 000 in storage)
          T-72 - 1 (+300 in storage)
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%
          D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B8%
          D1%8F_%D0%B8_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE
          %D0%B9_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8
          _%D1%81%D1%83%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%BD
          %D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA_%D0%A
          0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE
          %D0%B9_%D0%A4%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86
          % D0% B8% D0% B8

          I hope they don’t put me in prison for this screen shot
          screen shot of the combat personnel of the tank forces of Ukraine
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 31 December 2016 18: 51
            +1
            Quote: commbatant
            screen shot of the combat personnel of the tank forces of Ukraine

            Since when has wikipedia become the primary reliable source of information?
            Even if you use this information, you can safely subtract from this 178 pieces according to the information
            http://lostarmour.info/armour/
            1. commbatant
              commbatant 2 January 2017 13: 21
              0
              smart huh from where I will provide you with reliable information, share information from the source ...
        2. mashinist
          mashinist 2 January 2017 01: 21
          +1
          Well, it’s hard for a country that broke contacts with Russia and which has been ruining the army for 20 years, this is understandable, but on a site that has a rather high rating, fake information is missed! If it says here that the equipment has not yet been delivered, but in fact it has been partially delivered, then information about problems at the enterprise can also be false.
          1. The brightest
            The brightest 3 January 2017 09: 32
            +1
            Quote: mashinist
            that the equipment has not yet been delivered, but in fact it has been partially delivered

            Partial delivery is failure to fulfill the contract, failure to fulfill the contract is the failure of the contract, and failure is the consequences, right up to the termination of the contract - failure, because you still have to stay. So failure is, to say the least, an accomplished fact.
            Next
            .On the site Ukraine.ru provides a comment on this occasion, the director of the Ukrainian information and analytical center of political scientist Andriy Zolotaryov
            No other agent of the Kremlin ...
            1. mashinist
              mashinist 4 January 2017 01: 47
              +1
              these are consequences, up to the termination of the contract - a failure, for still have to stay. So failure is, to say the least, an accomplished fact.

              The Thai media reported that the Thai Ministry of Defense intends to receive 50 tanks from Ukraine as part of the advance payment paid, and the order for the 150 remaining tanks is transferred to China. At the moment, the Thai government does not intend to demand an advance payment in connection with a supply disruption.
              Those. all the same, the contract will be completed but there are problems, but "Ukraine — 85 T-64BM" Bulat ", as of March 2014" and "In addition, on September 10, 2014, 10 T-64BM1M tanks were transferred to the army and the National Guard for export for the armed forces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo "
              1. The brightest
                The brightest 10 January 2017 18: 16
                +1
                The Thai media reported that the Thai Ministry of Defense intends to receive 50 tanks from Ukraine as part of the advance payment paid, and the order for the 150 remaining tanks is transferred to China. At the moment, the Thai government does not intend to demand an advance payment in connection with a supply disruption.
                Yes ... this can only come up with r. The contract is being handed over to China, 28 cars have already been bought, and he continues to deny the failure of the contract. This, the diagnosis ...
                http://www.inosmi.info/vesti-ukrainskim-tankam-ta
                iland-predpochyol-chinese.html
                PS, and where does the "damask", the contract for "OPLOT" ...
  2. major071
    major071 30 December 2016 15: 56
    +38
    A short verse on this topic, written hot:

    If your factory
    No one to sharpen details
    And in the end, production
    Just on just standing
    Tell people right away
    These are the machinations of Russia!
    Well, so that the plant works
    You just have to jump!
    wink drinks
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 December 2016 15: 58
      +11
      And it is not necessary that this plant works ... In the world it will be calmer ..
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 30 December 2016 16: 08
        +17
        210ox hi
        And it is not necessary that this plant works ... In the world it will be calmer ..
        And don’t say. Now I’ll put the jelly for the new year. I’ll open a bottle of beer and you can’t imagine what tantrum I will have about the problems of the Kharkov military factories. laughing
    2. glasha3032
      glasha3032 30 December 2016 18: 26
      0
      Here at our factory (it produces ABSU on Tu -160 and Tu 22m3) there is no one to sharpen details - who should I contact?
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 30 December 2016 18: 55
        +3
        glasha3032 hi
        Here at our factory (it produces ABSU on Tu -160 and Tu 22m3) there is no one to sharpen details - who to contact
        Do you have housing from the plant? And what is your salary? I don’t pin up. I just ask for business. Suddenly I will help. hi
      2. Aviagr
        Aviagr 30 December 2016 19: 57
        +3
        We also do something for the Tu-160, so the most crucial details are the grandfather for 80 years! AND management - us * what will happen when and his will endure (What can they, besides the schedules and implementation of "thrift" = abolition of the increase of meager salaries, still implement ?!).
        So we have a situation and the rulers are the same on all sides, only as long as there is more oil and gas ...
    3. commbatant
      commbatant 30 December 2016 22: 09
      +4
      "Rain and hail outside the window?
      This is Putin's fault!
      Cat threw kittens -
      Putin is to blame again
      The hostess threw the bait -
      Guilty Guess!
      Our Tanya is crying loudly -
      Near Putin, not otherwise!
      Who yesterday in my porch
      Lift to the ceiling?
      Believe me, comrades
      This is Putin's hand!
      The light went out, the fence fell,
      The car stalled motor
      Healthy tooth removed
      Ile climbed into the apartment thief
      Did not like the movie,
      You have come to shit ...
      Any cataclysm
      Even if it’s an enema,
      One explanation:
      Every shit knows
      It's Putin's fault! "...
      1. Sergey F
        Sergey F 30 December 2016 22: 23
        +2
        Great!
        The more often Putin is to blame
        All the more often for Putin "Vivat!"
  3. DM51
    DM51 30 December 2016 15: 58
    +6
    And what, someone doubted that the order would not be completed? laughing
  4. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 30 December 2016 15: 59
    +3
    Guys need to be friends with their heads! Grandmas brought in, and in response there were no tanks of "Ukrainian quality" But after all, in -14-15, everything was clear, and the "quality" of "strongholds" atoms showed
    1. activator
      activator 30 December 2016 16: 38
      +2
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      Guys need to be friends with their heads! Grandmas brought in, and in response there were no tanks of "Ukrainian quality" But after all, in -14-15, everything was clear, and the "quality" of "strongholds" atoms showed

      Share the info that showed the atom about strongholds
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 30 December 2016 17: 42
        +4
        Quote: activator
        Share the info that showed the atom about strongholds

        Yes, the trick is that there is no information on the real use of "strongholds" They promised to send either 45 or 50 pieces, showed several pictures (possibly of the same tank) and a mustache! That is, either 84 Ukrainian assembly do not risk being allowed into battle (because of the awesome quality, not otherwise), or there are simply no "strongholds", and the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is unable to release them!
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 30 December 2016 18: 26
          +1
          I read only about one battle of local importance. There. it seems that "Oplot" with a pair of T-64s broke a convoy of several cars and armored personnel carriers. But all without photo-video and very compressed.
          1. activator
            activator 30 December 2016 18: 55
            0
            Quote: serega.fedotov
            Yes, the point is that there is no information on the real use of "strongholds"

            So why then express your authoritative opinion that
            Quote: serega.fedotov
            But in -14-15, everything was clear, and the "quality" of "strongholds" atoms showed

            Quote: serega.fedotov
            They promised to send either 45 or 50 pieces, showed several shots (possibly of the same tank) and a mustache

            They could not promise this because he was alone now, it seems like two were definitely not sure.
            Quote: serega.fedotov
            That is, either 84 Ukrainian assemblies do not run the risk of being allowed into battle (because of the awesome quality, not otherwise), or there are simply no "strongholds", and the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is unable to produce them!

            Here, Ukraine is more likely to not be able to buy them at the price of 4,5 Lyama, or maybe more.
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            I read only about one battle of local importance. There. it seems that "Oplot" with a pair of T-64s broke a convoy of several cars and armored personnel carriers. But all without photo-video and very compressed.

            Fake, I also came across this little article, but he was not sent to the atomic zone.
            1. activator
              activator 30 December 2016 19: 03
              +1
              Quote: serega.fedotov
              They promised to send either 45, or 50 pieces, showed several with

              And another moment, can you confuse the bulwark with bulat? in the photo damask
              1. activator
                activator 30 December 2016 19: 06
                +2
                But the stronghold.
                1. serega.fedotov
                  serega.fedotov 30 December 2016 19: 57
                  +2
                  It’s a stronghold! True, what kind of "talking helmet" promised 50 tanks I don’t remember (in the sense I don’t litter their brains with their names)!
                  Well, if you didn’t like my frustrated koment, I can expand:
                  When the winners of the Maidan sent the T62-64 tanks - they were burnt by the Buryats on armored camels, they sent bulati, again the bastards burned!
                  But the ancients have a wunderwafly OPLOT !!!!! all nafig will tear up !!! And there is a garbage 4.5 lard from "zero" AND 1.5 lard AT MODERNIZATION T-80UD!
                  And right here, our tanned friends should think: if there are 4 modifications there are at least 3 tanks (we’ll abandon the NATO standard) we have. and for some reason the miley Mongolian hordes trample Ukrainian tanks (and judging by the screams from Kiev, armored camels not only stomp, but ... stomp in general, only in a different way.) But no one sends strongholds into battle, they just do it!
                  Which is least strange.
                  PS I recommend reading reviews from Bangkok there is a very good order of prices set, for "expensive" assemblies from USSR stocks and photos are attached
                2. The leader of the Redskins
                  The leader of the Redskins 31 December 2016 00: 06
                  +2
                  you can not tell me about the types of tanks - I am a tanker myself. So I PERSONALLY in one of the Ukrainian programs saw a "stronghold" in the field fortifications.
          2. Alf
            Alf 30 December 2016 21: 27
            +1
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            I read only about one battle of local importance. There. it seems that "Oplot" with a pair of T-64s broke a convoy of several cars and armored personnel carriers. But all without photo-video and very compressed.

            This, apparently, from the tales of the burnt Armata and the dead phones.
  5. Orionvit
    Orionvit 30 December 2016 16: 01
    +3
    one example. Back in the early 2000s, the plant them. Malysheva, he placed the order for gears for the transmission of tanks on Motor Sich, since he could not make them on his own.
  6. igor67
    igor67 30 December 2016 16: 05
    +7
    Strange information, for a year and a half not a single car? Even on the site, we discussed what they post, but slowly. P “Plant them. Malysheva ”began to implement the contract. According to the plant, the cost of developing serial production of Oplot MBT was $ 30 million. The first five vehicles were shipped to a Thai customer in early 2014, another five in December 2015, and 10 in the spring of 2016.

    Source: http://www.milnavigator.com/ukraina-gotovit-pered
    achu-tailandu-ocherednoj-partii-obt-oplot /
    1. AndreiBelarus
      AndreiBelarus 30 December 2016 16: 15
      +4
      so one garbage wrote, and let others crow
    2. activator
      activator 30 December 2016 16: 45
      +5
      On November 12, 2016, 5 more were delivered. With a creak, but slowly moving.
      1. commbatant
        commbatant 30 December 2016 22: 23
        +1
        "For the whole of 2015, only ONE Oplot-T tank was assembled at the Malyshev Plant State Enterprise. It was intended for testing in Pakistan. In varying degrees of readiness, there were 4 more tanks within the walls of the enterprise, but until the fall of 2016 they are unlikely to be ready. "
        On November 12, 2016, 5 more were delivered. With a creak, but slowly moving.
        http://naspravdi.info/analitic/4888
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 31 December 2016 17: 15
          0
          I came across information that the "strongholds" are made by altering the hulls from the T-80. They themselves have not been able to make cases for a long time. Run out of old T-80s - production of "strongholds" will stop.
          But also comes across information (from this article):
          "... It took an elementary thing - to grind the ring under the shoulder strap of the tower. There are machines, the money has already come from the customer, and there are no more people who could do the work of very high precision ..."
          That is, the case, still doing? or the stronghold has another shoulder strap under the tower?

          In general, there is too much fog around these "strongholds"
      2. Grigory_78
        Grigory_78 29 May 2017 14: 58
        0
        But the next term expires in October 2017. Do you think the Thais will continue to pretend to be a victim and once again make concessions for the postponement of time?
  7. krops777
    krops777 30 December 2016 16: 22
    +3
    [quote] Ukraine has failed the contract for the supply of tanks to Thailand "Oplot-T" / quote]

    Poor Thais, before buying from Ukrainians had to study their mentality. request
  8. alavrin
    alavrin 30 December 2016 16: 23
    +3
    But Maidan clowns are not capable of this? Well Parasyuki there all sorts and other Moseychuki ... Strange.
    Ah, well, yes, here it is necessary not to beat the police with chains, but to work with the head. And hands.
    And they and the Central Europeans are incompatible things.
  9. dvina71
    dvina71 30 December 2016 16: 25
    0
    The analogy about the Nazis .. what is called .. to the point ..
    1. activator
      activator 30 December 2016 16: 50
      +10
      Quote: dvina71
      The analogy about the Nazis .. what is called .. to the point ..

      But the powder and the company do not need to be aligned with the Nazis. Hitler still gave his soldiers the best equipment, unlike ours, who give soldiers who fight for them painted metal scrap. So, for Hitler such a comparison is insulting. yes
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 30 December 2016 18: 07
        +12
        Quote: activator
        So, for Hitler such a comparison is insulting

        Yes, he has already opened the third pack in hell. Although the button accordion, it is still relevant today:
      2. Ostwest
        Ostwest 31 December 2016 14: 55
        +2
        Because it has long been noticed that if Hitler is a tragedy, then the Jew Valtsman-Poroshenko is a farce.
        By the way, the Germans never jumped. Not a single oligarch would have thought of paying for these races, unlike the Zhidobandera oligarchs, who really do not need anything in Ukraine except to take them away as much as possible and for this they divide and poison people, some of which the case gets the crumbs, but they are happy with it. yes it costs nothing. Jump, put pots on the head, curse Muscovites, dress up in a yellow-black poncho.
  10. Normal ok
    Normal ok 30 December 2016 16: 32
    +2
    I looked at the link, what kind of site this is referred to in the article. As you would expect a fake gun.
  11. SAA
    SAA 30 December 2016 16: 47
    +6
    Pashinsky: "Ukraine bypassed Russia to create missile weapons"
    Now everything is clear. The locksmiths who were supposed to collect the tanks at this time designed the rocket.
  12. CYBERNINJA
    CYBERNINJA 30 December 2016 16: 47
    +1
    The news is as old as the world, already four months have passed, and "VO" has just ascertained ... Probably they were waiting for one hundred percent confirmation ...
  13. Barbulator
    Barbulator 30 December 2016 16: 52
    +2
    From the territory of Ukraine there are reports that the Ukrainian defense industry actually failed the order for the delivery of Oplot tanks to Thailand.

    Nothing like this! The tanks are ready, only they decided to install missiles as an unexpected gift, the most perfect of which were not yet in the world. So wait Thai friends, but it is advisable to send the money in the light of new changes.
  14. bald
    bald 30 December 2016 16: 56
    +2
    What kind of garbage in the photo? And these are the enterprises with which they conclude orders !!!? Yes, Thailand will not understand who contacted (you can’t understand at all where the man is and where the woman is) - rightly so.
  15. faterdom
    faterdom 30 December 2016 16: 57
    +7
    So maybe not grind this ring? Or grind in the Maidan way: all the Maidan to quickly and for a long time rotate the tower until the ring is rubbed with sand? This, of course, is harder than jumping empty, but there is a lot of energy ... but there is not enough gas, at least to warm up at the same time ...
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 30 December 2016 17: 46
      +2
      And what for her, this tower to rotate ?! Yes, it will be so. It was just a tank - self-propelled gun will become! Again, you can arrange as peremoga. True self-propelled, it should ride, but here, too, is not a fact. Suddenly, again, you need to grind ...
  16. Nullpointerinter
    Nullpointerinter 30 December 2016 17: 11
    +1
    What is jaundice? 0 tanks in a year and a half? A total of 20 T-84BMs were delivered to Thailand, 10 of which in 2016, 2 batches of 5 vehicles
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 December 2016 18: 15
      +8
      Quote: NullPointerEx
      A total of 20 T-84BMs were delivered to Thailand, 10 of which in 2016, 2 batches of 5 vehicles

      But the trouble is that the last batch is not tanks made from scratch, but an alteration from the T-80UD ... There was no need to grind rings there in pursuit ...
      Here is a part of the hull of tank No. 20 from the Thai contract, against the backdrop of an excursion for students of the Kiev Bogun school, it can be seen that they didn’t even clean it of old paint before reworking .... Generally, HALYAVA ...


      And here are the towers made for them. Feel the difference. At "Oplot" it is original, made almost from scratch, and therefore it is painted with red lead. Here I see only the old sight shaft ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 31 December 2016 01: 01
        +1
        So after all, no one said that everything is from scratch. "Oplot" is a product of deep modernization of the T-80. After all, our BTR-82A was originally also altered from an ordinary "80 ki". And nothing...
        1. svp67
          svp67 31 December 2016 01: 23
          +2
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          So after all no one said that everything - from "scratch".

          So the fact of the matter is that work on processing the shoulder strap of the tower is carried out on a new building. The cases were old - this was not required, but as soon as there was a need for the manufacture of new cases, by the way, at the request of the Thai side, since they plan to use them for a long time, and the old buildings do not guarantee longevity, then there were PROBLEMS. And honestly looking at the photo, I am in shock ... It seems that the factory, which produced thousands of tanks a year, died. What is shown in the photo is a small-scale production ... For him, there is no need to maintain such a giant enterprise as the Malyshev plant ...
  17. Sergey Ignatiev
    Sergey Ignatiev 30 December 2016 17: 13
    +2
    Oplot-T, it's Oblom-Thais
    in a word, no dough, no tanks.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 30 December 2016 18: 49
      +1
      And what a bright future there were!
  18. svp67
    svp67 30 December 2016 18: 12
    +4
    It took an elementary thing - to refine the ring under the shoulder strap of the tower
    It turned out that an elementary thing is not so elementary ... Well, what can you say: "Zdobuli"
  19. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 30 December 2016 18: 21
    +2
    An article for hamsters ... Another "funeral" and beaten. Only the illiterate did not write about the Thai contract ... Well, have the rodents been fed? Let's go further, or something ...
  20. Monarchist
    Monarchist 30 December 2016 18: 47
    +1
    And what for do we need some "strongholds then" if they start purchasing state-of-the-art missiles next year?
    Please note: "there are no people who could do the work of very high precision, no longer ..." There are no turners to turn the ring under the tower, in my opinion this is a task for a novice turner, but they have people for assembling missiles!
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 5 January 2017 11: 15
      0
      really it's not for beginners
  21. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 30 December 2016 21: 34
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: katalonec2014
    RS; Do not tell me, is there a scrap metal collection point in the photo?

    Yuzhmash or Kharkov Tractor Plant ... now these once-defense giants have become such.

    At Khanty-Mansiysk Khmelnytsky Zavod, sawmills are already being sawn for scrap, so there isn’t any KhTZ anymore.
  22. rus-5819
    rus-5819 30 December 2016 21: 34
    +2
    A contract with Thailand for the supply of 54 Oplot-T tanks was signed back in 2011. By the beginning of 2016, Ukraine was supposed to begin delivering tanks to the country that had carried out an order in the amount of $ 241 million.

    Traded - had fun, calculated - wept ... Only tears are yet to come, when Thai (American) pennies have to be returned. This is not Russia for you, but wild capitalism!
  23. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 30 December 2016 21: 42
    +1
    It is impossible to disrupt the contract for the supply of what is not in nature
  24. Sergey F
    Sergey F 30 December 2016 22: 24
    +1
    Nothing to be surprised, it would be strange if the contract was fulfilled!
  25. bubalik
    bubalik 30 December 2016 23: 48
    +1
    Haha, how funny, they’ll soon leave without gas, And you all Ukraine ,,,
  26. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 31 December 2016 06: 40
    +3
    Russia and the evil genius Putin will be to blame for everything.
  27. gjkrjdybr50
    gjkrjdybr50 31 December 2016 08: 04
    +3
    They could not, because they were engaged in "overtaking Russia in the missile area", mainly in the "oncoming" line.
    Fool is enough only for "overtaking", for a business for which money has been paid neither time nor brains.
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 31 December 2016 08: 58
    +3
    Great news, just great. Ukraine must stay with
    what it should be with fields and farm laborers.
    And the farther, the closer this bright moment.
    It is a pity that the production is collapsing? Yes, sorry. When this production works to your advantage.
    And when it is all harmful to you, then burn it with a blue flame.
  29. vvp2412
    vvp2412 31 December 2016 10: 10
    +1
    Who would doubt such an outcome? :)
  30. Dmitry Khanin
    Dmitry Khanin 31 December 2016 11: 02
    0
    Money bye-bye!
  31. Suhow
    Suhow 31 December 2016 11: 22
    +1
    kapets, what a disgrace for the country, its prestige, because they could have earlier, but about ..... specialists and alas, the decline continues.
  32. Kalinvagen
    Kalinvagen 31 December 2016 12: 24
    0
    Take a walk to the Sevastopol factory repairing helicopters. Very interesting. Here the new government has tried, finished off.
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 31 December 2016 14: 31
      0
      http://crimeapress.info/vertolyotnyiy-zavod-sevas
      topolya-peredali-v-federalnuyu-sobstvennost /
      https://versia.ru/yeffektivnye-menedzhery-iz-xold
      inga-vertolyoty-rossii-prevratili-pribrezhnoe-avi
      apredpriyatie-v-vip-gostinicu
      these are the machinations of Japanese, Aglitsky, but more often Ukrainian spies ...
  33. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 January 2017 05: 47
    0
    And then they will ask for debt restructuring and introduce a moratorium on their payment ... Which country, such and laws ..
  34. neoshef
    neoshef 2 January 2017 12: 53
    +1
    They sold the Soviet stocks, thinking that everything would fall on its own as before, but no, now we have to do everything with our own pens, and the pens turn out to grow from the wrong place.
  35. Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 5 January 2017 09: 06
    0
    Failed ??? Again???
    1. Grigory_78
      Grigory_78 29 May 2017 22: 26
      0
      Yeah. The first term was - the end of 2014. The Thais were persuaded to wait until October 2017. But, considering that only 20 tanks were accepted by Thailand, 5 more were delivered, now at the reception, even let 8 more get ready for shipment (say), let 5 more tanks be remade from the T-80 by some miracle - by October there will be a maximum (we will stretch our eyes to the fifth point) 20 + 5 + 8 + 5 = 38 pieces. And there should be 49 tanks + 2 ARVs. It does not converge, alas. Absolutely. This means that the deadlines will be disrupted again, nowhere to go from this already.
  36. antivirus
    antivirus 5 January 2017 11: 12
    0
    Icelandic tank contract. It took an elementary thing - to grind the ring under the shoulder strap of the tower. There are machines, money has already come from the customer, and there are no more people who could do the work of very high accuracy. Some died, others went to Barabashov’s (Kharkov market).
    one acquaintance (in Russia): "an export order came. to forge a billet with hot forging. there are no specialists in the smithy. we went around the city, found me, a pensioner. 2 months of work, paid well, more. than permanent (who could not) and here I sit as a watchman, there are no specialists there "
    It remains to hope for a local therapist?