During the investigation, no signs of a terrorist attack on Tu-154 were found.

Interfax referring to a source in the commission investigating the causes of the crash of the Tu-154 of the Russian Defense Ministry, writes that after deciphering the flight recorder data, the version of the terrorist attack finally ceases to be considered among the causes of the tragedy. From the statement of the source:

The first data of the transcript of the flight recorders, as well as the analysis of the state of the debris, including the absence of traces of explosives, leaves no grounds for further development of the version, which could potentially be qualified as a terrorist attack.

The investigative commission did not reveal any evidence that an explosion could have occurred on board. At the same time, it is reported that a combination of human and technical factors is now being carefully studied, which together could be the cause of the crash of an airliner heading for Syrian Lattakia.

Particular attention, as noted by an unnamed source, is given to the technical condition of the Tu-154. In particular, the parameters of aircraft servicing, the qualifications of technical personnel from the airfield services are specified. Confirmed information that the fuel samples taken at the moment did not show any "impurities" in its composition that could affect the operation of engines.

Comments

[TsShVS]

Birds are to blame, definitely!

[Observer2014]

TsShVS

Birds are to blame, definitely!

.Winter in Sochi is one name. In the mountains is another matter. Over the sea there are flocks of feathery waterfowl in bulk. From gulls to cormorants to trifles are different. The thing was in the early morning. Count at night. I saw Tu 154 crashed into a flock of owls. Although this question is more for ornithologists.

[Reserve officer]

Yesterday I listened to an interview with representatives of the Ministry of Defense. Tactful. But the meaning is unequivocal - it is better for all journalists to shut up and not try to raise the rating of the publication with their own inventions. Not a single version has been dropped! Work is underway - the result will be at the end of January.

[miru mir]

Owls do not fly in packs.

[Koshak]

Quote: TsShVS

Birds are to blame, definitely!

Another "expert"? Definitely - you need to close your "fountain" and wait for the results of the investigation.

[TsShVS]

It was sarcasm actually ... And the "results of the investigation" may be far from the real reasons

[sergeyzzz]

Nobody will tell us the truth anyway.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Koshak

Another "expert"?

Wow, their legion is here.

Quote: STARPER

Another revenge for Allepo ....! This matter will be closed, of course, while Russia has nothing to answer ... But we all remember and concentrate!

Quote: STARPER

STARPER 2 December 25, 2016 10:54 ↑
It looks like a terrorist attack .... My condolences to relatives and friends .... In the process, the New Year in Russia will again be a day of continuous mourning! Know our pain points ....

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Are the birds to blame for flaps being removed?
http://denokan.livejournal.com/167800.html

[Bayonet]

Quote: TsShVS

Birds are to blame, definitely!

Well yes - if not the enemies are to blame, then the birds! But certainly not the equipment or the crew.

[Georgy USSR]

The attack, can be carried out without I / O, by purely mechanical action with the use of a radio channel, to block the same flaps.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Lock flaps in a retracted state before takeoff? You are joking?

[Georgy USSR]

And who said that before takeoff, for example in flight.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

What are we discussing?

[glasha3032]

Have you seen enough horror movies?

[Bayonet]

Quote: George USSR

The attack, can be carried out without I / O, by purely mechanical action with the use of a radio channel, to block the same flaps.

You need to watch less stupid action movies and read more! Then "... a purely mechanical action with the use of a radio channel" will not be reflected on the flaps!

[Georgy USSR]

I don’t do these stupid things at all. If you like stupid and not stupid fighters, erase them yourself and you don’t need to attribute this to others

[Bayonet]

Quote: George USSR

I do not do these nonsense at all.

Well then, tell me how to "block the flaps by radio" I know that this is technically not possible, but it might be interesting to someone

[siberalt]

Downed over the Donbass, a Boeing flew higher and faster, fell apart in the air and fell to the ground. But the passengers did not fly apart. Maybe our sea current broke?

[Vladimir Postnikov]

How did you do with physics? I see that is bad. The earth’s firmness is your firmament, and water is something soft, fluffy.
In a school course in physics, students try to hammer out that the fluid is practically incompressible.
There, they grind Newton's laws into their heads regarding momentum and the fact that mass is a measure of the inertia of the body. When you immerse your palm in water, you displace water. Try to hit the water hard and sharply, and you will feel the difference. At a speed of 300 km per hour, the water surface will not differ from the firmament of the earth. Do you get it?
If people fall from the wreckage of an aircraft from a height of 10000 meters, 5000 meters, or 500 meters, the speed at the Earth in all cases will be about 200 km per hour. If the bodies fall into the field, then nothing will fly off.
When people are on a plane that flew into the water at a speed of 300 km per hour, and its body is torn to pieces, and people are inside this meat grinder, what do you expect?
A small educational program based on a high school physics course.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

A small educational program based on a high school physics course.

Detailed and sensible!

[Flatter]

Water dampens the blow, lasting a split second, extinguishing speed, unlike the instantaneous one, when it falls to the ground. And the hull is torn in all cases. It is not clear with the passengers.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Flatter

Water dampens the blow, lasting a split second, extinguishing speed, unlike the instantaneous one, when it falls to the ground. And the hull is torn in all cases. It is not clear with the passengers.

What kind of a miracle is this? "The strike lasts a split second versus the instant strike." And who will defeat whom, or what? Forgive me, but in physics, a blow is understood as such a TYPE OF INTERACTION between moving bodies, in which the interaction time can be neglected. A blow is not measured and cannot be compared with another blow. There is no impact in nature that lasts a split second, or instant. They are all instant.
Does the case break at 300 km / h? Who would argue.
With passengers is not clear? And what should be clear with them in this situation?
Sorry, but I didn’t understand anything.

[voyaka uh]

The plane fell from a height of only 250 m and its speed was not particularly great.
Therefore, it is not very clear how the "body fragments" that divers find appeared.
In car accidents at high speeds, people die, but they are not torn to pieces.

[Flatter]

Probably, the crews of planes shot down in World War II above the water area at speeds of 2-400 km were also fragmented.

[voyaka uh]

Whole bodies are usually found, even when aircraft fall from great heights.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: voyaka uh

and his speed was not particularly great.

Is a heap a lot or a little?

[NordUral]

The body is torn, people fly out through what happened. So many tearing bodies could not be for this reason. I would be glad if this is not a terrorist attack, they do not need us. But the board, its passengers, time and situation are ideal for a terrorist attack. And not necessarily an explosion, but the creation of a situation for such a destruction of the side in the air.
In general, we have a happy New Year. I don’t even speak about the dead, their relatives and friends.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: NordUral

The body is torn, people fly out through what happened. So many tearing bodies could not be for this reason.

What is "SO MUCH"? What are you eating that one has "the speed is not very high" (this is 300 km / h when colliding with a wall almost !!!), the other has "SO MANY BODY BREAKING"?
How much so much? The plane did not collapse in the air, it collapsed from a blow to the water and at the entrance to the water.
How many body breaks should be according to your version? And how many were there in reality? Any answers? If not, it’s better to chew.
In the world that planes fall to depths of up to 40 meters every day? Where does the experience come from. If they are destroyed from falling into the sea, then far and at depth, or during an emergency landing at lower speeds with the flaps extended. There can be only one such concrete experience with retracted flaps around the world throughout history. Each accident has its own characteristics. One "expert" mentioned here writes that "in car accidents at high speeds, people die, but they are not torn apart." In car accidents, this expert has great speeds, while airplanes have a speed of 300 km / h in a collision - "not very high". Where in the world are cars on the road running at a speed of 300 km / h? If there are two hundred on the autobahns in Germany, then it should be compared with passenger buses. And where were the buses from the bridge jumping into the river at a speed of 300 km / h? Even if it jumps at such a speed, what will happen to the passengers? Will they all remain intact?
One would like to say Sergei Lavrov's favorite word, but I won’t say it.
Wait for the results of the investigation. Do not worry, do not lie. Accident in sight. They have no choice. They know this, and therefore have confirmed that this is not a terrorist attack. This is not a terrorist attack.

[Holoy]

Perfectly!

And what then did the MO declare about the serviceability of the aircraft and about professional pilots? We are waiting for those who declare this to be removed from all posts and demoted, not figs are inadequate to go to the Generals!

[bouncyhunter]

Holoy As always, you are restless and irreconcilable. Are you hungry for blood? And this will return the dead? Do not escalate the situation - everything is already in the platoon in the light of recent events. Yours faithfully

[your1970]

Aircraft serviceability on the strip is one thing, and a malfunction in the air is another, it happens ...

[Orionvit]

Keywords here

Particular attention, as an unnamed source notes, is paid to the technical condition of the Tu-154

That is, one version was immediately excluded, the other has not yet been found, but they will be looking. The "unnamed source" is especially encouraging. It is very likely that the "culprit" will not be found, but appointed.

[marshes]

Many dreamed of serving in Chkalovsk under the union, and now even more so. All the same, "confidants". During the union, the selection was, the best in the districts were recruited, until the sons of the generals grew up and now.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Holoy

And what then did the Moscow Region declare about the serviceability of the aircraft and about professional pilots? We are waiting for those who declare this to be removed from all posts and demoted, not figs are inadequate to go to the Generals!

Bravo Colleague! You don’t write that it’s a terrorist attack and it pleases everyone very much Did the General accidentally ruin a XNUMXth-century tower?

[siberalt]

The tower is a tower, but the truth about the Kursk submarine was never told.

[Oleg Monarchist]

And you were told the truth about the battleship "Novorossiysk" in 1955 or the submarine K-129 in 1968. Tell. And what truth suits you personally?

[210ox]

Holuay, go to the Ministry of Defense and demand yours .. You already demanded that you name the name of the blast attack on the plane ..

Quote: Holoy

Perfectly!

And what then did the MO declare about the serviceability of the aircraft and about professional pilots? We are waiting for those who declare this to be removed from all posts and demoted, not figs are inadequate to go to the Generals!

[Koshak]

Quote: Holoy

Perfectly!

And what then did the MO declare about the serviceability of the aircraft and about professional pilots? We are waiting for those who declare this to be removed from all posts and demoted, not figs are inadequate to go to the Generals!

Aircraft serviceability is confirmed by documentation (timely scheduled and repair work). A report on the professionalism of the pilots confirms the presence of class and experience.
But the most efficient equipment at some point breaks down, and according to statistics, most accidents occurred precisely with the participation of high-class pilots. This I declare to you from my own 27 years of experience.
You are here by elementary trolling, not having the slightest idea about aviation.

[KBR109]

"You said once - and I believed, repeated the second - and I became thoughtful. After the third, I no longer believed." Folk wisdom. The first time this was announced three hours after the crash.

[your1970]

Well, don't believe it - it's your right to walk around your apartment in circles and mutter under your breath - "Terrorist attack! Terrorist attack! Terrorist attack!"
The landing was unscheduled ...
Just imagine that you are a terrorist and somehow dragged explosives on board.
Logic: 1) why wait - when you can explode after 10-15 minutes of flight - i.e. over Moscow suburbs, 2) Sochi: why blast so early - on takeoff? and if it exploded on the ground - 2 minutes earlier and there would be practically no casualties (a couple of three wounded maybe no more). The dispatcher would not let them take off a minute earlier and all-zilch from your efforts. Obviously, they would have been waiting for the guaranteed quality of 10-15 minutes of flight, 3) no one took responsibility for the terrorist attack - which is not at all according to the rules of the terrorists (there is no advertising of themselves and what awesome fighters against everything and everything, PR-informational meaning disappears) ...
Z.Y. Still, this is a malfunction of technology, it happens alas ...

[car-el]

Yes, they blew it 100%, but they will not tell us.

[Observer2014]

car-el

Yes, they blew it 100%, but they will not tell us.

To you, this is sorry to whom? Why blurt out? Or is it such a "smart" trolling. Damn it with a bow on the side.

[car-el]

We - this is ordinary people, but I did not write it for you, the troll

[Bayonet]

Quote: car-el

We are ordinary people

And what is this category - ordinary people? Brains half a pound?

[car-el]

Ordinary people who are not paid money for comments here are not like you and yes, people are not judged by themselves.

[Koshak]

Quote: car-el

Yes, they blew it 100%, but they will not tell us.

IKSPERD No. 782?

[siberalt]

And what was the "lonely" border guard doing in the boat until dawn?

[Bayonet]

Quote: siberalt

And what was the "lonely" border guard doing in the boat until dawn?

I caught fish!

[roman_pilot]

There is always a coast guard boat on duty

[Observer2014]

You read the comments and you realize that you've heard something like that somewhere before. How the plane crashed from Armenia, what heresy they did not carry. Either they ground that the dispatcher is to blame and he is already on the run. That "There is one human literal. He didn’t have to refill in Sochi." And the weather was terrible. For three weeks it rained without stopping. So on approach, a cloud poured on the strip from the sea. The plane was naturally sent to the second circle because the visibility was zero at that moment. And in Armenia kerosene is more expensive than in Russia. So we refueled to take off, fly and just sit down. The airline had such savings.

[roman_pilot]

You're not right. The Armenians violated the procedure for withdrawing to the second circle, did not put the ORE on take-off mode, and their directors were brought to sea.

[SCHNIFER]

Absolutely no questions! Only one thing is of interest: given the fact that the investigation is being conducted by the military department, whether the results will be made public or will be classified.

[michajlo]

Quote: Observer2014

You read the comments and you realize that you've heard something like that somewhere before. How the plane crashed from Armenia, what heresy they did not carry. Either they ground that the dispatcher is to blame and he is already on the run. That "There is one human literal. He didn’t have to refill in Sochi." And the weather was terrible. For three weeks it rained without stopping. So on approach, a cloud poured on the strip from the sea. The plane was naturally sent to the second circle because the visibility was zero at that moment. And in Armenia kerosene is more expensive than in Russia. So we refueled to take off, fly and just sit down. The airline had such savings.

Welcome all!

I fully agree with the "Observer 2014"!

Words from the song of V.S. Vysotsky can complement it.
"... rumors, rumors here and there
and the toothless old women carry them home ... ".

If, at the end of the investigation (not today after lunch), there is a verdict (conclusion) that the plane crash is not a terrorist attack, then THIS ONE is also good!

Well, if the result is that the fault was the TOTAL of several technical problems or the FAILURE of the equipment, which occurred during take-off at low altitude and only at the beginning of speed gain (not when flying at a cruising speed (700-800km / h) at an altitude of the air corridor of 8-10 thousand meters, when there would be some time to resolve or at least notify the flight dispatcher of any problem or problem),
and in such a situation, even the coolest pilot, "without a pinch of happiness" WOULD NOT be able to do anything ...

In the latter case, for me, an electrotechnical technician and a doctor without aviation experience (flights and maintenance of equipment) by the way more valuable comments and opinions of people flying or serving aircraft, because I do not have the impudence inherent in many "connoisseurs and experts here on VO and in general on the Internet" only on the basis of my general and fragmentary knowledge of physics, aerodynamics and even Wikipedia,
judging clever things with a clever look!

Therefore, for me, the opinion of any forum member is more authoritative, who, in his opinion, will indicate that he flew for many years, serviced, designed or tested aircraft,
and he, unlike us civilians, has knowledge, concept and personal experience about the things he writes.

Well, just as real is the possibility that ordinary citizens can not tell us everything, alas, it happened more than once, and that’s why the people have a MATURE distrust of words and conclusions from various authorized and vested with authorities,
what actually gives plentiful food to various rumors and theories "from unnamed sources and secret experts" (for everything and everything) ...

Michael, Smolensk.

[Ruby]

Quote: michajlo

Therefore, for me, the opinion of any forum member is more authoritative, who, in his opinion, will indicate that he flew for many years, serviced, designed or tested aircraft,
and he, unlike us civilians, has knowledge, concept and personal experience about the things he writes.

People who have similar experience say they need to wait for the results of the investigation. I’m talking, among other things, with almost twenty years of work in aviation.