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If he is not a black donkey, he will not become a mule anyway. Sleep, "Volcano" ...

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An interesting thing is life. Especially for those who are curious. So many paradoxes. So many new ideas from the "well forgotten old." You do not want, but you will have to remember. And laugh. There is simply no other way to respond to statements that are voiced.


If he is not a black donkey, he will not become a mule anyway. Sleep, "Volcano" ...


Yesterday a lot of media outlets, including us, reported on the Pentagon’s statement about the revival of the Vulcan system. The presenter in the messages was a beautiful phrase from a representative of the US Department of Defense: "The Commander's Last Hope" ... Agree, beautifully said. And how much sense ... The commander has hope. In case there is no hope anymore.

Honestly, I do not understand why most of the leading media are so alarmed? Why in Europe and in our country have already started talking about the NATO mining of their territories with the help of Vulkan? Perhaps this was the reason for writing this article.

The system that is being revived today by the United States is nothing outstanding. It is from the point of view of the soldier. At the household level, which most media broadcast, mining systems are designed precisely to stop or halt the enemy’s advance. But, given the specifics of our publication, I have to expand the special knowledge of readers.

The classic work of a minefield is a cover for positions held as described above. And not only a cover, but also a forced offensive on other roads under the firing means of the defenders. Back in World War II, another method of mine defense was used. Remember the "rail war". This is nothing but a strategy of laying mines on enemy routes in his rear. Mines work like soldiers against second-tier troops. The reserves of the enemy "get stuck" and do not have time to replenish advanced units.

But what about the mines in the attack? Minefields that help advance? This happens?

Competent commanders will answer quite clearly. Not only it happens, but it is also the way of conducting a battle on the offensive. See messages from the Donbass. What is happening today under Debaltseve. Offensive. Separation from the main forces for a short distance. The exit of the defenders to the flank and the destruction of the attackers. Further - a withdrawal with losses and inventing a version for the press about what huge forces turned out to be on the defenders.

In modern warfare, mines solve these problems. The attackers cover the exposed flanks with minefields. Thereby depriving the possibility of a counter-offensive from these areas. And in the case of counter-offensive defenders, mining occurs ... behind the attackers. It happens that a counterattack / counterattack is choking. And counterattack depart.

And then the situation changes radically. Now the former defenders are attacking. And those who attack are already suffering huge losses. And mines help to cause the most damage. Yes, and crawling through a minefield, even if the mines lie randomly, it turns out much slower than running at a gallop.

In a message from Washington, it was also mentioned that the Volcano today needs to be modernized. Blah blah blah about international conventions and more. Antipersonnel mines cannot be set. Not humanely. "Volcano" only against tanks! He laughed.

The system "Volcano" was originally universal. For the installation of anti-tank and anti-vehicle mines in NATO, there are several quite decent European-made systems. That's why he laughed at the Pentagon’s statement. It is doubtful that American "goons" will spend dollars to worsen their own weapons.

"Volcano" is intended for the "rapid deployment forces" of the United States and NATO. It is mounted on the 5-ton M817 vehicle or Black Hawk helicopter. In the 4 ammunition module for 40 mine cassettes disposable. Each cassette contains 5 anti-tank mines and one anti-personnel mines. One gas station of "Volcano" allows you to mine a plot of 1000 terrain on 50 meters in half an hour.

So today, suddenly caused such a passion for the "Volcano"? Oddly enough, poor learning ability of the US military. Well, and experience of conducting operations by other armies in Ukraine and in Syria.

I have already mentioned Debaltseve. At the very beginning of the operation, we did an analysis on this issue. It was evident even from the few truthful reports that the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "are a little morons." Among other things, I called the developers of the offensive plan. What caused a lot of critical comments from readers. But when a unit is sent for slaughter only with the purpose of identifying enemy firing points, it is not from a great mind. For this today there are many other ways.

But back to the Americans. After the failure of the offensive, "debriefing" always follows. And, as I think, it was there that they remembered the forgotten minelayers. Honestly, if they were at the APU, the success of the operation would have been predetermined. Naturally, if the Republicans would not have "another scrap." But more about that below.

In the same way, the “successful operation in Mosul” affected the brains of the generals of the “most powerful army in the world”. When a bunch of soldiers from different countries and groups successfully dope from terrorists. When even the use of heavy artifacts and aviation no results. It was then that mines could be used against the advancing terrorists. But no mines ...

In conclusion, you need to tell about the "fire extinguishers", which make these "Volcanoes" almost useless. Any system of mining, as, indeed, any weapon system in general, is most effective when the enemy does not possess any countermeasure system. Listen to PVOshnikov. Most, if, of course, did not take part in real hostilities, they will tell you that the aircraft will never fly through precisely their position. And then talk to the pilots. The result will be completely opposite. Let the sparrows of their missiles knocked.

In modern armies there are systems that counteract mines. What we see in the films about the Great Patriotic War, a sapper with a mine detector or probe, is not used in the offensive today. Too long. The army simply cannot afford to linger for hours. Sappers work afterwards. Clean the fields. And in the offensive technique works.

The Snake Gorynych is most known in our country. And easier, install the UR-77. Designed for making passes in an explosive way. It has an extended charge clearance - flexible, double-stranded. Charge length 93 meter and weight 2400 kg. The unit has a range of charging charges clearance 200-500 meters. And guarantees the creation of the passage length 90 and width 6 meters. Simply put, "Vulkan" will delay the onset of a tank unit on 3-5 minutes maximum. Until “Gorynych” breathes ...

And there is still a portable installation UR-83P. There is an UR-07Р based on the BMP-3. There are even coastal demining systems. This is what I am writing for the Intelligence Agency of Ukraine. All attempts to mine the coastal strip in Mariupol are nothing more than a beautiful fairy tale for the average man. For demining do not even need to stop the landing. All anti-landing mine blast barriers at depths from 5 meters to the water's edge will be destroyed.

So, the Pentagon is trying to solve their problems with the help of a European man in the street. The fear of the Balts and the Poles is so great that today they are ready to believe in any nonsense. As the fear of Ukrainians. About the "weapon of retribution" we have already heard. Doomsday Guns too. Now here is the "last hope of the commander." Are there many scary stories?

When a person is constantly frightened, the reverse reflex is triggered. A person does not care about death. He seems to be resigned to death itself. Maybe this is exactly what overseas strategists want? Intimidate and make believe that the next war in Europe is inevitable? And if we add to this the increased propaganda among young people about the possibility of a serious army confronting hunters and a couple of NATO battalions, then ...

I do not see any other explanation for the hype about the statement by the Americans. Well, they do not consider our commanders as a flock of sheep? The fighting in Syria and Iraq showed "who is who ..." All the listed mining and demining systems have been used for a long time and do not represent any military secrets for the military. The secret, which is why the secret that no one wants to disclose it.

We are once again trying to take "on the weak." How many times should Putin answer the same question about an arms race? There will be no race. There will be a weapon that neutralizes the enemy effectively and "according to new principles of influence." We can talk. But we can cut into the face of the brazen face too impudent insolent. Every cricket know your hearth.

Whatever you say, but wise peoples once united in the USSR. Azeris gave the title of the article. Russian - the end. The wisdom of the people. Nothing personal.
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  1. inkass_98
    inkass_98 30 December 2016 06: 57
    +6
    Any technique is good in the hands of a professional. And we already know how some professional laureates of the Darwin Prize in Ruin Prize put mines. An epic blast in its own mine of a mining installation along with curved-armed personnel will be included in the annals of world military science.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 December 2016 07: 19
    +1
    Mericatos have long been sitting on a mine themselves. And the whole question is when will they jump off (or dump them) so that the mine explodes. We need to step aside a little so that the fragments do not catch.
  3. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 30 December 2016 07: 21
    +1
    This is also part of Obama's strategy - "bad Russian guys want to conquer" and further down the list - the country or countries that we allegedly want to capture. But in the world of fools, then everything becomes less and less, and then they are simply appointed fools. In this case, the United States is trying to appoint everyone as fools except itself.
  4. Siny
    Siny 30 December 2016 08: 30
    +2
    Better to let the United States send the Balts, Poles, etc. modern defensive weapons, not the fact that the "Russian threat" is just words ...
    1. domokl
      domokl 30 December 2016 09: 19
      +4
      What is this? It’s just interesting that the Poles and the Balts must have in order to be able to at least RETAIN the Russian army in the event of a mess. Nobody will play the war ala Ukrainian brawl. The stakes are too high and the losses in the next war are much higher than all previous ones.
      1. Siny
        Siny 30 December 2016 09: 22
        +2
        The USA has enough modern weapons so that friends of the USA can suspend the advancing Russian forces at least temporarily, until the approach of the main NATO forces
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 30 December 2016 09: 59
          +9
          Quote: Siniy
          The USA has enough modern weapons so that friends of the USA can suspend the advancing Russian forces at least temporarily, until the approach of the main NATO forces

          It is impossible to explain to a fool that he is "stupid" simply because he is stupid. First, try to explain what is so interesting for the "friends of the USA" that the Russians want to attack them? Russia is a self-sufficient country with enough own resources. Therefore, your words are only a projection of your own flawed consciousness onto someone else's, which is objectively different. And therefore - these arguments have no objective meaning.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 5 January 2017 14: 19
          +2
          Quote: Siniy
          The USA has enough modern weapons to make friends of the USA

          Friends of the USA !!! - already funny.
          could suspend the advancing Russian forces at least temporarily

          You turn on your head. Why do we need these "friends" and their territories? We have enough of our own piece of land. What do these "friends" have that Russia does not have, in the name of which we would need to capture them?
          Quote: Siniy
          to the approach of the main forces of NATO

          Then they will no longer have a chance to complete a retreat maneuver))) And I’ll tell you a secret, they also know this, and therefore will not be in a hurry.
          And in general, stop scaring us with mattresses, we have other "serious" problems ...
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 30 December 2016 12: 53
      +2
      Hmm. Well, wellcome, another bot of "western uh ... partners". What good and funny can you write?
    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 30 December 2016 13: 41
      +2
      Quote: Siniy
      Better to send the United States to the Baltic states, Poles, and others. Modern defensive weapons

      All b And then the kids are not very rich ...
      And those who have a lot of money, like, for example, the Poles, prefer third-party manufacturers: Finns, Germans, Israelis ... Louts.
      In total, the Americans sold them the F-16 somewhat unsuccessfully. The first two "newest aircraft" could not reach Poland on their own ... So it was necessary to understand and forgive the Exceptional Beacon of Democracy ... And what are they doing, vindictive ...
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 5 January 2017 14: 08
      0
      Quote: Siniy
      Better to let the United States send the Balts, Poles, etc. modern defensive weapons, not the fact that the "Russian threat" is just words ...

      Yes, let them send it. You can still put something into the load. It makes no difference to us what to let into remelting later, if these under-states from something are fired in our direction ..
  5. Mik13
    Mik13 30 December 2016 09: 21
    +3
    The message from Washington also mentioned that Volcano needs to be modernized today. Blah blah blah about international conventions and stuff. Antipersonnel mines cannot be placed. Not humane. "Volcano" only against tanks! He laughed.
    The Vulcan system was originally universal. For the installation of anti-tank and anti-vehicle mines in NATO, there are several quite decent systems of European production. That's why he laughed at the Pentagon's statement. It is doubtful that the American "goons" will spend dollars on the deterioration of their own weapons.
    "Volcano" is intended for the "rapid deployment forces" of the United States and NATO. It is mounted on the 5-ton M817 vehicle or Black Hawk helicopter. In the 4 ammunition module for 40 mine cassettes disposable. Each cassette contains 5 anti-tank mines and one anti-personnel mines. One gas station of "Volcano" allows you to mine a plot of 1000 terrain on 50 meters in half an hour.

    This is because ALL European countries (except Finland) have joined the Ottawa Treaty, which implies a complete rejection of the use of PP min. Therefore (despite the fact that the United States has not acceded to the Ottawa Treaty), they cannot use PP mines for use in European countries, respectively, the product must be modernized.

    By the way, in addition to the Ottawa Treaty (which the United States, China, the Russian Federation, and some others did not accede to), there is also Protocol II to the UN 1980 Convention on the Prohibition or Restriction of the Use of Specific Conventional Weapons, which can be considered to cause excessive damage or having indiscriminate act. This convention has been ratified (including) by the Russian Federation, the USA and China. And one of the requirements of the Convention is that remotely installed mines must be equipped with self-destruction or self-neutralization devices. Since the United States ratified the Convention only in 1995, it is understandable why modernization is acc. weapons, they are engaged only now.

    By the way, just yesterday at VO there was material that the Russian Federation is also modernizing remote mining systems to comply with legal standards.

    Likewise, the "successful operation in Mosul" affected the brains of the generals of the "most powerful army in the world". When a bunch of soldiers from different countries and groups successfully scrapes from terrorists. When even the use of heavy art and aviation does not bring results. It was then that it would be possible to use mines against the advancing terrorists. But there are no mines ...
    Well of course. Since Iraq (SUDDENLY) is a party to the Ottawa Treaty with 2007 of the year ...
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 30 December 2016 09: 39
      +3
      Any agreements are valid only in peacetime, for complacency and as a political mantra. Nobody will observe anything in the military. There will be a full range of EVERYTHING that can defeat the enemy. And the modernization of mine barriers is not an attempt to bring the ban on anti-ballistic missiles into conformity, but simply cleaning rust from them. The effectiveness of minefields is valuable precisely with the use of anti-personnel. And in the case of a grandiose schukher, you can even charge anti-flea vehicles into the cassette.
      "There would be a cannon and gunpowder, but you can shoot with buckshot from improvised objects" as pirates used to say on ships.
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 30 December 2016 09: 53
        +4
        Quote: g1washntwn
        Any agreements are valid only in peacetime, for complacency and as a political mantra. Nobody will observe anything in the military. There will be a full range of EVERYTHING that can defeat the enemy.
        Could you confirm your opinion with any historical example?
        And then (according to WWII experience), Germany did not violate the Geneva Protocol of 17 on June 1925 and did not use chemical weapons.

        Quote: g1washntwn
        And the modernization of mine barriers is not an attempt to bring the ban on anti-ballistic missiles into conformity, but simply cleaning rust from them.
        Tell me, is this your opinion - or do you have any reliable information on this issue?

        Quote: g1washntwn
        The effectiveness of minefields is valuable precisely with the use of anti-personnel.
        Cost center efficiency is determined by slightly different parameters. Reducing everything to PP mines is incorrect.
        1. DM51
          DM51 30 December 2016 10: 22
          +5
          And then (according to WWII experience), Germany did not violate the Geneva Protocol of 17 on June 1925 and did not use chemical weapons.

          Do you really think that Hitler, by destroying millions of people in concentration camps and committing the genocide of some peoples (which in itself is a violation of the conventions, especially in relation to prisoners of war), diligently executed the Geneva Protocol? WWII differs from WWII in that it is not trench but highly maneuverable, and chemical weapons are very unpredictable, completely dependent on weather conditions and can do more damage to attackers than defenders - in a gas mask it’s much easier to sit in a trench than to attack if you served in the army, then you know it well. Moreover, according to the results of the WWII, everyone already knew that chemical weapons were not effective and that it was a double-edged sword. Not to mention the fact that Germany’s beginning of WWII was a gross violation of the Treaty of Versailles
          1. Mik13
            Mik13 30 December 2016 10: 48
            +2
            Quote: DM51
            Do you really think that Hitler, by destroying millions of people in concentration camps and committing the genocide of some peoples (which in itself is a violation of the conventions, especially in relation to prisoners of war), diligently executed the Geneva Protocol?
            Yes, Germany didn’t really violate the protocol from 17.06.1925. Check out: http://www.memo.ru/prawo/hum/zhen1925.htm

            Quote: DM51
            WWII differs from WWII in that it is not trench but highly maneuverable, and chemical weapons are very unpredictable, completely dependent on weather conditions and can do more damage to attackers than to defenders
            As far as I remember, there were many episodes when the front for a very long time was very trench. In places - more than a year.
            In order to switch to a highly maneuverable option from the trench, you must first break through the enemy’s defenses. And only then compounds with high operational mobility are introduced into the breakthrough - tank divisions or tank corps (mechanized corps), cavalry corps, etc. But the most costly is precisely the breakthrough of defense on a wide front to the entire depth. And chem. weapons for this can be used just like any other. More precisely, it could.
            1. DM51
              DM51 30 December 2016 11: 14
              +4
              You have little idea what a trench war is at the beginning of the century — when trenches on the front line are ironed with heavy artillery for a couple of weeks — such an art preparation. Then the chains go, and the defenders meet them with machine-gun fire, because they advance to the reserve positions, the attackers suffer huge losses and everything starts again. They began to use chemical weapons in WWI out of despair in order to at least somehow advance. In WWII, this was impossible, since there were much more effective means for a successful attack than waiting for everyone to take a break from the gas there - tank wedges and aviation support, which has improved significantly since the beginning of the 20th century - by an order of magnitude, or even and two. Tell me, what kept Hitler from using chemical weapons — moral principles or fear of God's punishment? No, but the understanding that chemical weapons in WWII are not effective and will only slow down the attack, because many factors will need to be taken into account and the effectiveness of tank wedges will be significantly reduced if the enemy uses the same gas against German soldiers. I repeat once again that sitting in a gas mask is much easier than attacking, and under WWII maneuvers and deep cutting blows were much more effective than gas attacks. You can see the dynamics of WWII offensives when gas was not used and WWI when gas was used, there the difference is not only huge, but simply incredibly huge
        2. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 30 December 2016 11: 30
          0
          Quote: Mik13
          And then (according to WWII experience), Germany did not violate the Geneva Protocol of 17 on June 1925 and did not use chemical weapons.

          I read somewhere that Germany did not use chemical weapons because there was an agreement with ours about not using termite in our Katyusha shells.
          In general, if they used chemistry, then we would have fought using termite.

          I do not claim that this is true, but I came across such information.
          1. DM51
            DM51 30 December 2016 11: 51
            +7
            Yeah, Molotov and Ribbentrop met at the height of the war and agreed on everything. It was a survival war, you just have to remember how the Nazis burned entire villages with people, everything is much simpler, but this is just some kind of ridiculous legend
          2. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 30 December 2016 12: 57
            +2
            Not just a bike, it seems. Otherwise, at such a pace and before a joint war of "totalitarian monsters" against the "free world" it is possible to agree.
        3. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 30 December 2016 12: 13
          +2
          From what is in open information (or leaked to open)

          About anti-personnel mines and why they are abandoned only on paper:
          The statistics of US infantry losses in Vietnam - 60-80% of mines and anti-personnel artillery explosive devices (a very similar situation for Soviet losses in Afghanistan, the USA there and Iraq) can not continue.
          The justification of setting the cost center without anti-personnel mines tends to zero, as it becomes very short-lived. The network has enough analytics that in addition to miniaturization there is a unification of mines in terms of work both in terms of equipment and limited in infantry, thereby creating the appearance of compliance with the Convention without reducing the efficiency of application tactics.
          About chemical weapons:
          https://topwar.ru/67715-oruzhie-pod-zapretom-chas
          t-8-himicheskoe-oruzhie.html about why Germany didn’t agree to the violation. Everything is more than banal, everything is chewed ten times everywhere. As a counterbalance to Nazi Germany, one can bring "partners" - "Allies and Poisonous Gas in World War II" by Hans Meiser; The use of defoliants and gases by the Americans in the Vietnam War, etc.
          And a bonus on TNW: the trend of its use has long shifted from the category of "impossible" to ordinary US tactical directives, so the arsenal is being updated and all NATO pilots (including non-nuclear countries in violation of nonproliferation) are being trained to use ammunition similar in characteristics to the B61-12.

          And yes, besides all of the above, this is my personal opinion.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 December 2016 13: 01
      +2
      Quote: Mik13
      By the way, just yesterday at VO there was material that the Russian Federation is also modernizing remote mining systems to comply with legal standards.

  6. SEER
    SEER 30 December 2016 10: 08
    +1
    Quote: Siniy
    The USA has enough modern weapons so that friends of the USA can suspend the advancing Russian forces at least temporarily, until the approach of the main NATO forces

    But I didn’t consider this option, that FSA will not come to the rescue?
    Well, just nato rub off?
  7. SEER
    SEER 30 December 2016 10: 11
    0
    Quote: Siniy
    Better to let the United States send the Balts, Poles, etc. modern defensive weapons, not the fact that the "Russian threat" is just words ...

    Well send. Well receive. Either they break it or they lose it ... they also cut their hands ...
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    1. cost 75
      cost 75 30 December 2016 10: 39
      +2
      And you yourself saw how our draped? Maybe you’ll go to Palmyra and show everyone how to fight.
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 30 December 2016 13: 10
      +2
      Ohhh ... And you, by chance, do not confuse (more likely, intentionally) Aleppo and Mosul? We heard about the battles for Mosul, yeah. Fresh food, but angry with difficulty. Yeah, Mosul stormed only a few evil Iraqi commandos, and they almost freed him. Only this handful of heroes has another eighty thousand fighters with American instructors. And Mosul has not yet been taken, and even half. All foreign media would have trumpeted the capture of Mosul (or part of it). And they, gray dogs, are silent.

      Yeah, the phrase "The Americans have to destroy everything now" is five.

      Further. This is where our, Russian ARMY is fighting in Syria? Can you indicate the parts? You’ll even name the personnel, probably, since you have such information. I’ll just ask right away: information from Vasilyeva or from a Syrian from London?
      No doubt, our units are in Syria, but here they are - the defense of bases, not the strike forces. So no OUR forces from Palmyra draped, it was the Syrians, and it seems that they were not shot.

      Quote: 231185
      Wishful thinking ...


      It suits you perfectly.
  9. 72jora72
    72jora72 30 December 2016 11: 17
    +6
    Quote: 231185
    only Iraqi special forces take part in the assault
    at first I wanted to discuss, but after this phrase I realized that you are far from this topic ......
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 30 December 2016 13: 11
      +2
      I envy your stamina, I could not stand it ...
  10. HARDDEN_KMV
    HARDDEN_KMV 30 December 2016 14: 24
    +1
    Again, the United States came up with another "zamanuha" again, Europe needs to slobber the loot to an overseas friend ...
  11. Cat
    Cat 30 December 2016 14: 41
    +1
    Especially "+" for the title of the article!
    Whatever you say, but wise peoples once united in the USSR. Azeris gave the title of the article. Russian - the end. The wisdom of the people. Nothing personal.

    Bravo! Applaud all paws!
  12. Siberian
    Siberian 30 December 2016 18: 45
    0
    Quote: Kotischa
    Especially "+" for the title of the article!
    Whatever you say, but wise peoples once united in the USSR. Azeris gave the title of the article. Russian - the end. The wisdom of the people. Nothing personal.

    Bravo! Applaud all paws!
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 30 December 2016 19: 07
      +2
      ........... I once served on the territory of this Azerbaijan: in Shamkhor, Kirovobad, Akstaf ... and believe me, not many people in this republic were happy about unification in the USSR ..... and even They laughed at us Russians and personally over me, the son of the military commissar .... they say that you serve Russians, and we have the opportunity to evade the army .... a lot of things then seemed wild to me, for example, as the director of the store = Meat = , came to work on = Volga =, the seller opening the store came on foot, and then on an increasing bicycle, motorcycle .... I didn’t do much when I was young believed and was enthusiastic about the unification of the USSR, ..... but gradually. ADULT over the years, Russia understood is Russia and the wise people in it are only Russians, those who live with us, in our family, from the moment the state of Russia appeared or entered this family voluntarily ... the rest can be friends, allies, satellites, etc ... but it’s unlikely to be anything else and nothing more ... and clap do not clap = with all paws = will not become sweeter in the mouth, even if it contains a piece of chalk, with the inscription it is sugar ....
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 5 January 2017 14: 04
        +1
        Quote: Siberian
        ........... I once served on the territory of this Azerbaijan: in Shamkhor, Kirovobad, Akstaf ... and believe me, not many people in this republic were happy about unification in the USSR ........ ...

        Come on, at the expense of the people pour. Here are the results of a referendum on the preservation of the USSR
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    1. domokl
      domokl 31 December 2016 05: 38
      0
      You slide into the option "Horseradish will fly past us" ... Any new system after a year or two has a counter-system ... Controlled, counters and so on, that you listed this legacy of the Second World War ...
  14. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 December 2016 22: 59
    +2
    A demining installation makes a passage or passages in a minefield.
    The advancing tanks must be converted into columns and move forward in these passages.
    It is clear that at a low speed. And restructuring from chain to column takes time.
    And mine itself. Therefore, the delay will be not less than 5 minutes, as the author optimistically believes
    articles, and for half an hour at least. What is important in a military operation.
    1. domokl
      domokl 31 December 2016 05: 35
      0
      Gorynychi only individualists in fairy tales ... They fly in packs on the battlefield ... The numbers in the article are nothing more than a guaranteed passage ... According to the technical characteristics of the system