Who pays the most, and friends!

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The other day in St. Petersburg the Summit of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and the meeting of the Eurasian Economic Union (EurAsEC) were held.



Traditionally, representatives of integration associations are gathered in full composition, but this time Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko did not participate in the meeting. As a result, the EurAsEC Customs Code, which was planned to be approved during the negotiations, was approved only by four out of five participants.

It should be noted that the press service of the Belarusian leader did not comment on the absence of her boss at the meeting. Nevertheless, a number of media outlets agreed that the absence of Lukashenko at the CSTO and EurAsEC summits is an attempt to put pressure on Russia in order to obtain economic benefits.

Obviously, the outgoing year can be called a period of crisis in Russian-Belarusian relations. It seems that the main source of the problems that have arisen was the decision of the politicians of Belarus to translate the dialogue with the Kremlin into the “you for me, I for you” bargaining mode, which Minsk often begins to look like blackmail. Today, officials of the brotherly state for Russia practically openly demand an increase in financial assistance from Moscow, which already does not forget about its partner. Suffice it to recall that in March the Eurasian Bank allocated a loan in the amount of 2 billion dollars to the republic. However, economic differences between neighbors are beginning to emerge more often.

Recall that since the beginning of 2016, the Republic of Belarus has been insisting on reducing the price of gas from 132 to 73 dollars per 1 thousand cubic meters. The problem was repeatedly raised by the presidents and prime ministers of the two countries, but the Kremlin refused to make further financial concessions. It is also impossible not to recall the recent conflict over the supply of European sanctions products to Russia from Belarus.

One gets the feeling that Belarusian politicians nevertheless decided to try the Ukrainian scenario in practice, taking an intermediate position between the closest neighbor and the West, trying to put pressure on Moscow in this way. However, the above example shows that attempts of this kind of manipulation do not produce results and lead to conflict situations between fraternal countries.

The decision of the Belarusian leader not to participate in the summits of the CSTO and the EAEU is a continuation storiesin which neighbors demand economic preferences from Russia. It seems that if the Russian side does not make another financial concession to Minsk, a new EU delegation will visit the country in the near future, who will discuss ways of early European integration of Belarus.

The expression “the salvation of a drowning man is the work of the drowning man himself” is involuntarily remembered. However, in the current situation there is a slight difference: a sinking state requires monetary compensation from the rescuer. Probably, it remains only to recall that when the drowning man goes into the rank of a drowned man, he will no longer need the money.
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  1. +40
    30 December 2016 05: 49
    I remember here the komenty were Old Man, well, his president in Russia. Now there is such silence, AU -Where are you guys?
    1. +18
      30 December 2016 05: 57
      I’m here .. It’s true that I’m not a kid, I’m already in the top ten. And Old Man really looked good against the background of our drunk EBN .. Yes, and in principle, he knows his politics tightly now. He’s not interested in an ally, his main state. Isn’t it? hi
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I remember here the komenty were Old Man, well, his president in Russia. Now there is such silence, AU -Where are you guys?
      1. +22
        30 December 2016 06: 15
        Quote: 210ox
        .And Old Man really looked good against the background of our drunk EBN

        And what does the EBN have to do with it? In his time, one of us had a computer at home? I'm talking about the comments that were here three years ago.
        Although even at the time of EBN, his economy held on at our expense.
        Quote: 210ox
        . He is not interested in an ally, his main state is. Is not that so?

        Not true, rather, he is interested in his personal ego.
        Quote: ML-334
        No need to juggle, we talked about the 90s.

        Okay, you’ll have a conscience, you’ll lie right in your eyes.
        1. +8
          30 December 2016 06: 31
          At the time of EBN, our economy also rested on Western handouts .. And about his EGO .... Yes, let the head of state have at least something OWN (maybe the state will get something), unlike the slug of the same Yanukovych. By the way, this is EGO acts well when receiving preferences. Alexander, go to Belarus, look at how clean and tidy the streets are, talk with people. I have lived there most of my life there and know what I'm talking about ...
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: 210ox
          .And Old Man really looked good against the background of our drunk EBN

          And what does the EBN have to do with it? In his time, one of us had a computer at home? I'm talking about the comments that were here three years ago.
          Although even at the time of EBN, his economy held on at our expense.
          Quote: 210ox
          . He is not interested in an ally, his main state is. Is not that so?

          Not true, rather, he is interested in his personal ego.
          Quote: ML-334
          No need to juggle, we talked about the 90s.

          Okay, you’ll have a conscience, you’ll lie right in your eyes.
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          2. +19
            30 December 2016 08: 03
            Take a trip to Belarus, see how clean and tidy the streets are,
            So what? Is people getting richer in purity? So I clean my yard every day from the snow. Sweeping. And my neighbor cleans his "yard" less often, but with a tractor (you can't overpower it with a shovel and a broom). So which of us lives better (read richer)? Your argument is not clear to me ...
            1. +3
              30 December 2016 15: 04
              Yes, cleanliness is like living better ... And if we consider the standard of living in the same Smolensk region of Russia and the Vitebsk region of Belarus, then they are about the same .. Only in Belarus it is much cleaner and better road, with everything else .. That's the whole argument ..
              Quote: BecmepH
              Take a trip to Belarus, see how clean and tidy the streets are,
              So what? Is people getting richer in purity? So I clean my yard every day from the snow. Sweeping. And my neighbor cleans his "yard" less often, but with a tractor (you can't overpower it with a shovel and a broom). So which of us lives better (read richer)? Your argument is not clear to me ...
        2. +14
          30 December 2016 11: 37
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In his time, one of us had a computer at home?

          I had it!)) On the 486 processor! And instead of Winda Norton Commander, sheath. Internet through a modem from a home telephone. There were very few Internet sites; many looked like documents with spreadsheets.
        3. +3
          30 December 2016 19: 23
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Although even at the time of EBN, his economy held on at our expense.

          There were good times. good Luke snickered, I thought that with Russia it would always be easy not only to trade but also to bargain.
          Now when the site says about two chairs on which he wants to sit, I remember the question about two chairs. On one the peaks are chiseled, and on the other ... and choose which one you sit on (etc.)
      2. +15
        30 December 2016 08: 21
        Yours NOT true. 16 years have passed since EBN. Your Old Man is oppressing the old line-GIVE AND I WILL SUPPORT YOU.
        But in general, I am personally offended FOR OUR GORGEOUS SITE. Where like-minded people and opponents have gathered, BUT, what is it that only a few decide to publish. I hope and am sure that the "villains" also read our site and they were happy) to their comments on the appointment of Moggerini. Our girl, cute, etc. And the like came to power-comments on the website of Mr.Sorry guys, I don’t know the department of MILITARY-POLITICAL GEOGRAPHY was in your higher educational institutions (we are not surprised), but in the LPVPU Air Defense named after Yu.V. Andropov, this discipline was taught perfectly. NEVER RIMLYanka Will NOT support the inhabitants of northern Italy, and let's not forget WHAT the Americans did in Italy after the end of WWII.
        The guys are the "owners" of THIS really GORGEOUS site, where military pensioners and PATRIOTS of Russia and YOUTH - you will decide on your priorities.
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      4. +16
        30 December 2016 10: 52
        And in principle, and now he knows his politics tightly. He is not interested in an ally, his own state is the main thing. Is not that so?
        If not for our money, oil products, and other preferences ....... where would Old Man be ???
        PS And about the "sweet" life in Belarus ............... I have many relatives and friends there, I have information.
        1. +2
          30 December 2016 18: 31
          Quote: 72jora72
          If not for our money, oil products, and other preferences ....... where would Old Man be ???

          Just so that there is no confusion, comments should be divided into two parts ...
          1) Does he arrange for Belarusians as president? Does he manage his job?
          2) Does he arrange the citizens of the Russian Federation as the head of a union state? Does it work to the benefit or to the detriment of our union interests?
          These two points can be multidirectional.
        2. +3
          30 December 2016 23: 19
          poor thing, Belarusians robbed you from the porch you probably write
      5. +11
        30 December 2016 13: 48
        If father is for his state, then why should our president Putin turn away from his state to please another state? After all, all the former republics voted for equality and self-sufficiency. Let them be even with each other. And there is nothing to blame Russia.
      6. +15
        30 December 2016 14: 12
        He is not interested in an ally, his main state is not it?

        you respected in Belarus were at least once ??? poishachte, and then live on a salary of 250 ye, and this is not the worst salary, educators, medical workers and teachers with experience of up to 10 years get just over 150, and then, sorry, tryndit here.
        fucked up smart people who from somewhere far away teach us how to live and work here in Belarus.
        1. +1
          30 December 2016 15: 10
          Yes, almost fifty dollars in the neighborhood lived in Smolensk and relatives in Klimovichi and Kostyukovichi .. Yes, I am that "smart guy" who can quite imagine the level in Smolensk and in the same Mogilev .. Now the truth moved to the south .. closer to the sea.
          Quote: hedgehog in the fog
          He is not interested in an ally, his main state is not it?

          you respected in Belarus were at least once ??? poishachte, and then live on a salary of 250 ye, and this is not the worst salary, educators, medical workers and teachers with experience of up to 10 years get just over 150, and then, sorry, tryndit here.
          fucked up smart people who from somewhere far away teach us how to live and work here in Belarus.
      7. +3
        30 December 2016 17: 36
        He is not interested in an ally, his main state.

        Mosaic psychopaths have their own logic
    2. 0
      30 December 2016 06: 02
      No need to juggle, we talked about the 90s.
      1. +21
        30 December 2016 07: 49
        Quote: ML-334
        No need to juggle, we talked about the 90s.

        Well, who is how.
        I remember they slammed a warning, for the words: Old Man is a traitor and unprincipled person looking at neighbors only from a position of personal gain, betray more than once and a penny will work on any trouble, give only a chance.
        And the wording of the warning is for insulting the leader of a friendly state ... Where is this moderator, to ask him about the 90s, he had in mind or in general? I mean, who is the friendly leader there?)))
        This is even before the gifts of the Belarusian seas in our market, it was said. And so on.

        Yes, there were many funny things about the "brothers", that about some, that about others.
        As in 2014, I had an opinion, after a trip to rhlandia for relatives, that he was not his brothers to us, that they wanted our blood and would most likely be shed. What enemies to look for. So gentlemen like Domocles and others, gnashed their teeth, saliva expired about how I was wrong. Under a couple of hundred cons I typed in one message.
        How did it come about?
        1. +11
          30 December 2016 09: 58
          Quote: insular
          Old Man - a traitor and unprincipled man

          Let's start in order ... all children are born equally good and only over the years some of them become not good at all. And this transformation is influenced by the external environment. Is that why Lukashenka became like this? He was just allowed to be so. I just can't imagine that Mexico or Mongolia would start bending their fingers like a fan in front of their Main neighbor .... they would get a lot of everything at once .... And this one sits, "pesters" and doesn't blow his mustache ... And this is all because of the failure of our policy in the post-Soviet space ... If only there were at least a few spare "fathers" and "shahs" of Central Asia in Moscow, just in case, and the rulers of the "free" republics knew that "a step to the left - shooting on the spot with retirement ", then their head would have thought all day and night about not teasing the northern bear ... and no need to offend the Russians ... and knock down monuments ... and even fart loudly at home under a blanket at night without permission ... This is the kind of policy that should be, and not "what you please" at the expense of Russia ... Here are all sorts of "rulers" and became insolent to disgrace ... How to fix it ??? There would be a desire ... For the new year, you can send everyone a framed portrait of Amin and a portrait of Najibullah also in a frame ... I am sure that everyone will understand !!!! And on the morning of January 1, they will stand in front of the Kremlin gates with pens in hand, ready to sign any agreements.
          1. +12
            30 December 2016 10: 15
            Quote: the most important
            Let's take it in order ... all children are born equally good and only with the years some of them become completely not good.
            I will continue - those whom the stork brought — become eagles, those who were found in cabbage — become goats. Question - where did they find the dad? wassat There is a contract, it needs to be implemented. Lukashenko-Russia, this is not the Soviet Union, we do not serve the poor. hi
          2. +16
            30 December 2016 10: 58
            then their head would have thought all day round that they shouldn’t tease the northern bear ... and don’t need to offend the Russians ... and bring down the monuments ... and even fart loudly under their covers at night without permission ...

            And it seems to me, and not only to me, that this is such a simple blackmail by Lukashenko, and with numerous hints:
            “If you don’t give us any preferences, we’ll take it from the West. Look how we are being offered! But I’ll take it and agree, and what will you do when we are so beautiful by your side?”
            For such a game you need to be a very, completely unprincipled bastard politician. But you and I suspect everything, we suspect ... And it suddenly just! and so it is?
            With all the respects for the brilliant fatherless speech at the last UN summit.

            Number two. Are the roads in Belarus good? Purity?
            And I, comrades, communicate with many young Belarusians who have come to work with us. They work in a warehouse in the Moscow Region for a penny (maximum for a very average salary), in a frantic schedule - and do not want to go back! They live in wild conditions, next to the Uzbeks and other Ravshans, Dzhamshuts and Ukrainian refugees. And - they don’t want to go back to Belarus!
            We Russians are more patriots of their homeland! I ask why they do not like their homeland so much. At the very least, they complain that a very low salary, a wild increase in prices, and from the TV are a good mine with an abominable game.
            You know, friends, how much do they get for a 12-hour hard working day?
            From a thousand to one and a half thousand rubles. Rarely more! And - they don’t want to go back.
            These are ordinary young guys and girls, not drunks, not liberotas, and not outcasts.

            Does anyone have a precedent for Russians to go to Belarus on the same conditions to earn a piece of bread? Because "it's better there"? Do not do business, no! Work hard in the warehouse! I'm just curious.
            1. +14
              30 December 2016 11: 25
              Quote: Larra Anathema
              Does anyone have a precedent for Russians to go to Belarus on the same conditions to earn a piece of bread? Because "it's better there"? Do not do business, no! Work hard in the warehouse! I'm just curious.

              I have not seen a single Russian in earnings in Belarus. But I know many Belarusians who travel to Russia to earn money.
            2. +7
              30 December 2016 13: 26
              Quote: Larra Anathema
              ...
              You know, friends, how much do they get for a 12-hour hard working day?
              From a thousand to one and a half thousand rubles. Rarely more! And - they don’t want to go back.
              ...
              .


              It's cool, but in kilometers two hundred from the Moscow Ring Road there is not even such a salary for the same working conditions! Where are you writing from? From Mars, eh?
              Farmers and "businessmen" are paid 8 rubles for 500 hours of hard work, and 12 rubles for 800 hours of hard physical work. There is no other job. From the word GENERAL! Except for government agencies. But there are 2-3 dozen places for 2-3 thousand souls.
              So they leave for Nerezinovaya on construction sites and janitors.
              PS: And I write about Russia. People, where did you come from here?
              1. +3
                30 December 2016 15: 14
                These guys are writing from Moscow and St. Petersburg .. And the fact that in the same Smolensk salaries in terms of food and stuff are equal and even lower than Belarus doesn’t care .. Then the Belarusian guy claims that everything is bent there .. Well, so go to the Pskov or Smolensk region and see what is happening there ..
                Quote: Signor Tomato
                Quote: Larra Anathema
                ...
                You know, friends, how much do they get for a 12-hour hard working day?
                From a thousand to one and a half thousand rubles. Rarely more! And - they don’t want to go back.
                ...
                .


                It's cool, but in kilometers two hundred from the Moscow Ring Road there is not even such a salary for the same working conditions! Where are you writing from? From Mars, eh?
                Farmers and "businessmen" are paid 8 rubles for 500 hours of hard work, and 12 rubles for 800 hours of hard physical work. There is no other job. From the word GENERAL! Except for government agencies. But there are 2-3 dozen places for 2-3 thousand souls.
                So they leave for Nerezinovaya on construction sites and janitors.
                PS: And I write about Russia. People, where did you come from here?
                1. 0
                  30 December 2016 23: 26
                  I know how they work for us and we don’t earn more, by myself I know that if I make me work as a German it will be a personal disaster for all Belarusians, and as for work in Russia, then they work only in Moscow and St. Petersburg and everyone says that there they rage with fat
                2. 0
                  6 January 2017 14: 57
                  Soon you will be nauseous from your Smolensk ... In almost every comment ...
              2. 0
                30 December 2016 20: 16
                I can tell where they pay like that. Write in a personal - I'll tell you. We don't need an influx of wild farmers, but smart workers are needed. With the ability to work with even the simplest, but electronics (warehouse TSD). "At the Windows level, you know? Well, it's the same." You can teach from scratch, if the truth is a smart person. But yes, only a lazy person has less than a thousand per shift.
          3. +1
            30 December 2016 18: 38
            Quote: the most important
            Here for the new year, you can send everyone a portrait of Amin in a frame and a portrait of Najibullah also in a frame ..

            Then portraits of Saddam and Gaddafi with a black ribbon and a portrait of Yanukovych with joyful pink are better .... These are all who believed the west.
        2. +12
          30 December 2016 12: 37
          Speculation on the topic of Lukashenko in our media is already fed up. When there is absolutely nothing to write, they write about the Old Man.
          I can’t understand why this is necessary? What do they achieve by this?
          Denigrate Lukashenko because he did not allow privatization of state property and state enterprises?
          For the fact that medicine and education have been preserved and developed in the Republic of Belarus.
          Because in Belarus there are good roads, clean forests, for the construction of libraries, for the construction of sports facilities, for excellent agriculture, for the magnificent Victory parades, for the preserved and modernized sanatoriums.?
          Or maybe the lesson with hohlodonts did not go for the future? Kaklovsky leadership was given preferences and loans that the Republic of Belarus never dreamed of, and sho? Received a fratricidal war on the borders of the Russian Federation.
          It may be enough already to pour mud on Lukashenko and restore order in his home.
          Or do we have few problems? Maybe we can boast of achievements in the economy? Or maybe we have a country development project?

          By the way, today our media talked about how kakly blocked the pipeline for supplying ammonia from Tolyatti to the Odessa port and that it deprived someone of 400 million raccoons arrived per day .. But they did not say a word to who owned TollatiAzot.
          The main owners of the company: management (including former president Vladimir Makhlai) - more than 76%, other individuals - Russian citizens - 15%, Uralchem ​​company - 9,73%.
          For 10 years, stock-wars have not abated around ToAZ, and the main owners, Vladimir Makhlai and his son Sergei, have been running business from abroad all this time.
          And we, in turn, buy fertilizers abroad!
          Here is a model of the economy we can offer Belarus? Or all the same, taking the Belarusian experience, to rebuild your own?
          And to all, "like patriots", I will say that the Republic of Belarus is currently the only ally of the Russian Federation. Dot.
      2. +13
        30 December 2016 07: 53
        And why are Belarusians and Ukrainians asked, did they sign the Bialowieza agreements? After all, they cannot live without Russia (Kiev slid to export of 18 billion Tymoshenko)! The Baltic states dreamed of becoming a gateway to Europe, but what did they get?
        It is clear that at such a price Minsk gets competitive advantages. Half a billion for gas + smuggling, so he didn't come. And maybe even the new Customs Code itself is not satisfactory, you probably won't make much money. We can't grow these apples ourselves - here the Old Man is not 100% right. Smuggling eats up a part of the market where domestic products can be sold. In general, it seems that Moscow is turning a blind eye to this, giving Minsk some extra money. But with gas, this is too much - they will push them to the EU, and pocket the profit. How many times Daddy does not quote, he will find a reason for surplus "grabbing" - how long it is already possible to play this "carousel"! Here is the Kremlin, which often closed its eyes to all the "sins" of Father, decided to be tough. I don’t know how all this will end (VVP will show mercy or money on the table), but at the end of next year the picture will repeat itself. Now, if Father is put on an advance payment, he won't find money even with a discount ?! And with Nord Stream 2, Old Man without transit to Poland may be left without any surplus for resale - and he needs it !? It turns out somehow shortsighted with him. Moreover, against the background of the Arab League's words, the EAEU is based on the Union State of the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation. hi
        1. +6
          30 December 2016 09: 25
          A true union of Slavic (and not only) countries can only be a union of socialist countries.
          1. +1
            30 December 2016 13: 29
            CMEA has already been. Not a ride.
        2. +8
          30 December 2016 10: 26
          Quote: Kasym
          And why are Belarusians and Ukrainians asked, did they sign the Bialowieza agreements? After all, they cannot live without Russia
          But Russia can and will live without them. What are these "cunning" brothers? And so they have a huge nishtyak, at the expense of the Russian market and orders, can they still smear his face with jam? hi
        3. avt
          +7
          30 December 2016 11: 09
          Quote: Kasym
          Somehow short-sighted it turns out from him. Especially against the background of the words of LAS that the EAEU is based on the Union State of Belarus and the Russian Federation.

          Well, no, no! laughing Here you are wrong and do not argue! But father may not be mentally, and in the heat of the moment, but with a peasant chuykoy he said absolutely exactly what he wants and how he sees it. ,, Sayuznaye gasudarstvo "this is nothing at all ,,, gosudarstvo" without any constitutional act at all, but .... with the BUDGET of this quasi-state! So the EAEU, according to its concepts, SHOULD be the same - pour a glass, and go yourself. This is mine, this is also mine, this is mine again, but I don't wear this style - keep it for yourself. bullyBut judging by his last fortune with a failure to appear in St. Petersburg, the hysteria is natural, his intractable creditors pressed him at least yards so hard for $ 3.
        4. +6
          30 December 2016 14: 08
          After all, they cannot live without Russia

          I can not leave without comment. A country smaller than Moscow (I'm talking about Belarus), without mineral resources, access to the sea, not the best soil (swamps). It produces products (without sarcasm, not talking about shrimp), shoes, clothes, tires, tractors, cars and buses, a cloud of military equipment, etc., etc. And one should not confuse state policy and business interests. I have no doubt - Belarus is shaken by our businessmen as sticky. And the Old Man keeps only because of the pro-Russian view (GDP recommends helping). It’s stupid to think that Belarus-idlers live off of our help. The people are working hard, Lukashenko is not seen in excesses!
          1. avt
            +3
            30 December 2016 14: 17
            Quote: Airborne6
            I can not leave without comment.

            Here you can specifically quote from someone writing here about
            Quote: Airborne6
            lazy Belarusians live off our help,
            If not, then
            00:05
            And do not confuse your personal wool with the state!
            And do not go to lawyers for all the people
            Quote: Airborne6
            The people work hard
            If the essence of other people's comments do not catch up.
            So you don’t have to play the violin at someone else’s wedding, especially since the guests have already left. Better ask about what you didn’t understand. It helps me.
          2. 0
            30 December 2016 21: 20
            It is foolish to ignore economic statistics.
    3. avt
      +8
      30 December 2016 10: 48
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Now there is such silence, AU -Where are you guys?

      The Potsins gather their strength to sing in chorus - "he does the right thing, we have oligarchs" bully
    4. +4
      30 December 2016 11: 00
      laughing laughing He realized that there was no chance and began ... to weird.
  2. +9
    30 December 2016 05: 52
    Blackmailing is certainly not good .. Especially blackmailing against the hand of the giver. I think that Alexander Grigoryevich understands what he is doing .. And if something happens, he may not be able to deliver the plane to the nearest Smolensk .. Although I think this option is unlikely and he will get from the Kremlin his ..
    1. +1
      30 December 2016 13: 30
      Is a plane to Smolensk a hint?
      1. +2
        30 December 2016 15: 17
        This is a hint for the Poles. For him it could be salvation ..
        Quote: Kenneth
        Is a plane to Smolensk a hint?
    2. +13
      30 December 2016 13: 39
      You write strange things - the AHL did not allow privatization ..., the AHL cares ..., the AHL will achieve ... Well, it is clean and good roads ...
      I will tell you so - in the Republic since the start of gas / oil graters and the termination of direct financing - there are big problems, stagnation in the business, the crisis of defaults is evident, more and more offers of barter (remember, what is this?), The debauchery began - with repair problems are expensive (unlike the same Pskov region., I often happen, there is a reason for comparison, and the Pskov region is far from the richest region of the Russian Federation).
      By the way, the AGL itself was threatening with "cruel punishments" from the screen back in the summer, but now it is not showing, apparently there is nothing to say. Non-privatized state-owned enterprises hold tenders with deferred payments for 30-60 days, but ... Tenders regularly fail, there are very few gullible fools left - 30 days very quickly turn into 90, and 60 - in six months, as if not to get to the next denomination.
      Personally, I have already reduced the debt of such an enterprise from 4000 euros to 1 thousand, while I haven’t received a dime from it, and I probably won’t get it. Although all court decisions are in my favor.
      In the relations between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, there appeared, if not a red, then at least a pink line - yes it is understandable, how much can you play the nipple system? It’s time, in addition to the words about the readiness to restrain NATO tanks by the breast, it’s really something to do. For example, pay debts for gas. No one else demands anything from him. Even Belarusian shrimps and avocados - and then, they practically do not pay attention. Well, you have to have a conscience!
  3. +6
    30 December 2016 06: 03
    I sometimes get bombs from my dad
  4. +22
    30 December 2016 06: 17
    Quote: 210ox
    he will get his Kremlin

    Little Belarus is blackmailing big Russia. I think the Kremlin constantly protects its permanent LAST ally. And this ally has gotten rid of it! Colossal loans, preferential prices for gas and oil, the market for Belarusian goods is SMALL. Minsk completely thwarted counter-sanctions - through Belarus, the European export of seafood is falling in bulk, fruits and much drugoe.I think it is necessary to put in a little place their "ally", and to conduct a different international policy, so that Russia would have numerous allies and supporters. hi
    1. +5
      30 December 2016 06: 43
      Yes, this is so. The Kremlin is very "careful" to its ally .. However, the ally is such a thing .. not very reliable. There are two ways out, and both are wrong. The first is to continue the policy of preferences in relation to Belarus. The second is to take a tough position, and it will not give anything good. Lukashenko will take his country into the arms of the West. He acts as he sees fit for his entrepreneurs, production. This does not fit into the requirements of the Kremlin. In general, I do not see a worthy way out of this stalemate. ... request A change of power in the republic? This is unlikely. Everything will continue as the Old Man wants ..
      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: 210ox
      he will get his Kremlin

      Little Belarus is blackmailing big Russia. I think the Kremlin constantly protects its permanent LAST ally. And this ally has gotten rid of it! Colossal loans, preferential prices for gas and oil, the market for Belarusian goods is SMALL. Minsk completely thwarted counter-sanctions - through Belarus, the European export of seafood is falling in bulk, fruits and much drugoe.I think it is necessary to put in a little place their "ally", and to conduct a different international policy, so that Russia would have numerous allies and supporters. hi
      1. +4
        30 December 2016 07: 33
        Quote: 210ox
        .Second, take a tough stance, and it will not do anything good. Lukashenko will lead his country into the arms of the West ..

        Do you think he has enough "intelligence" for this? After all, the neighboring country has already shown from personal experience that there is a western embrace, and I hardly believe that another scenario is in store for my father.
      2. +3
        30 December 2016 13: 47
        Well written - just for their entrepreneurs. So with regard to non-privatized enterprises, this is a very big question, who exactly is their real owner. State of RB or Unitary Enterprise of RB and Co.
        And about "he will take him to the West" - I think no one is flattering himself now, "polite people" are on guard, just give them a reason.
    2. +3
      30 December 2016 13: 33
      Ally implies equality
      Belarus is a client
      And you need to clearly explain it to her.
  5. +3
    30 December 2016 06: 24
    Again the Old Man flunked. Like a tumbler: your-ours, your-ours ...
  6. +14
    30 December 2016 06: 27
    Lukashenka will soon have fun, this is already clear ... With such a policy in the USA, Maidan cookies for Belarus are already baking at an accelerated pace.
    And the most interesting - where will he run in case of what? I’m not sure that Putin will save him, like Yanukovych ...
    And now Putin just needs to point the completely insolent "ally" in his place, because it is clear that Lukash will pull everything that is possible from Russia to the last, and when he sees that there is nothing to pull out, he will immediately jump to the West. There are already examples. Alas...
    Therefore, there is nothing to think about how to appease him ... You just need to start a normal business policy with him. At least here everything will immediately become apparent: hu from hu! Yes, and in this situation we will save a lot of money that could continue to spend on it without benefit.
    1. +8
      30 December 2016 07: 18
      Quote: Brigadier
      Lukash soon krants, this is already clear ...

      I would not say so categorically. The balancer will swing, but will stand. Of course, many Belarusians are tired of Lukashenka’s order, but nobody wants a situation like in Ukraine. Rydorych will quickly disperse Maidanutykh, there will be no ceremony.
      where will he run if something happens? .. I’m not sure that Putin will save him, like Yanukovych ...

      Will and save, if that. Why should the West give the initiate to many shared secrets. Moreover, Rygorych has a house in Sochi, although he and Kolya are skiing there, it’s a pity or something.
      and when he sees that nothing can be pulled out, he will immediately rush to the West.

      He will never be his in the West. Of course, they first caress him, exalt him, but then they remember the deeds of the last dictator of Europe. Milosevic’s fate is not enviable and Lukashenko understands this well. This Putin can tolerate the tricks of Lukashenko, the West will quickly put his wholly controlled.
      You just need to start a normal business policy with him.

      I absolutely agree.
  7. +5
    30 December 2016 06: 39
    Lukashenko needs to demand that Russia pay him the same 73 bucks for 1000 cubes for purchased gas lol The people seem to be normal, but the king then completely lost the coast ...
  8. +7
    30 December 2016 06: 41
    Considering the messages here on the site about what is happening in Belarus, that the Ukrainian scenario is possible there, I don’t understand why Lukashenko puts his head in the loop. I think that most of the people would support their president if he integrates his economy with ours, after all, the Union State, and this should be used. And so, trying to gain, go about the European integrators, what this will lead to is unknown ... The only thing that will try to bid with Europe, possibly with the USA, is to integrate with them while maintaining its economy and any bonuses in the future and for yourself. But the experience of Ukraine already shows (and the whole of Eastern Europe) that this will not happen ... they will throw a bone in the beginning and then take it away ..
    1. avt
      +4
      30 December 2016 10: 58
      Quote: Letnab
      why does Lukashenko stick his head in a noose.

      To understand, well, in short, without nuances, try to take out a loan to live well, then a loan to pay off the first loan to live well, and continue to walk the same way as when you got the first one with your drinking companions who sing an asana for your treat - you know how live "Well, something like this
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, and in principle, even now, he knows his politics tightly. He is not interested in an ally, his main state.
      Then another loan to pay off not even the second loan, but at least pay interest. Then, when specific guys come to pay off your debts, go to your friends and ... no, do not ask for money, but simply declare to them that they are OBLIGED to give you money, that's just because you are as you were told earlier at the table - ,, you know how to live beautifully. "Then it will come to you in a sense, together with the collectors, or bailiffs - depending on the bank's notions about how comme il faut it is, what is the“ Belarusian economic miracle ”. : Just a question - Do you need it? Maybe without show-off it will come out calmer on your own? bully
  9. +3
    30 December 2016 06: 48
    Well ... no replaceable no. You can move if that.
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  11. +4
    30 December 2016 07: 09
    how did he run out of ...
    Quietly, slowly, is the "roof" of the dad going?
    is he not quite in good health?
    still not "got it" that the time of "proud loners" is long over?
    will roll out "independent" "students" nah ...
    db!
  12. +5
    30 December 2016 07: 12
    Now for Lukashenko, his personal ambitions are important. The interests of the people - in general, on the side, the interests of the country - then.
  13. +9
    30 December 2016 07: 46
    Do you SELL breakfast with lunch too?
    So why the Belarusians in the UNION state have to pay the European prices for gas? Moreover, twisting hands by underdelivery of oil - paid without delay, and the demand to "give" the MZKT for free - that is, just "spin"?
    Moscow bureaucrats-liberals and so all partners pushed away (where is Cuba with Vietnam? Iran offended spends billions in the West, and not with us), now in our "friends" Turkey and Qatar are venerable states ...
    Let's push away the last shield in front of NATO and open the western borders so that they get from the MLRS to Moscow - 404, after all, did it ...
    There is no money? - So look in the pockets of Chubais, Ulyukaev, Serdyukov, Sechin, Miller and others - there are enough of Belarus for 200 and a couple dozen Russia ...
    1. +13
      30 December 2016 08: 17
      Quote: Aviagr
      Do you SELL breakfast with lunch too?

      Didn’t confuse anything sick? How did such a comparison come to mind? Apparently started celebrating in advance ...
      Quote: Aviagr
      Let's push the last shield in front of NATO and open the western borders

      Egei, an eccentric man, following your own logic about children: Are you also hiding from the gopniks with your children?
      Tie up a plump. Seriously.

      The union state is not a republic in the composition. Do you want to feed from the mother of Russia? I passed the under-passport of the under-state and received the correct Russian passport. Getka Old Man and said hello Russian ruler. Only then can you open your mouth and demand maintenance from the Russian rulers. In the meantime - pshol home. Frozen at the end, parasitic dependents.
      1. +6
        30 December 2016 09: 26
        This is not an Aviagr eccentric man, it is you insular such. To write about power Russian rulers, and even with a capital letter, it is necessary to completely lose touch with reality.
        As for your last words about the overgrown, this is only your point of view, because you
        no one can call you in any way, like most local commentators.
        1. 0
          6 January 2017 07: 22
          Quote: KP8789
          . To write about power Russian rulers, and even with a capital letter, it is necessary to completely lose touch with reality.

          For people with a forehead two fingers high, I’m chewing: with a capital letter it is written not only according to the rules, but where it is required to highlight a particularly important detail. Someone uses bold font, someone prints in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, but I used one Capital. Not to understand this, and even to be nasty - this is apparently from a very "big" mind, but after reading your text further, I realized that I am still right, you are not different in intelligence.
          Russian, in this case, did not mean ethnicity, but the essence of Russia = Russian ruler. Belarus and Belarusians will receive the right to demand from Russia only as part of a single state under autocracy.
          In the opposite case, I want to see a call from lovers of the union state to Belarus Belarus to give Russia everything that Russia needs and a burning desire to raise prices for gas supplied from Russia to help the Russian economy (exactly the opposite). Why not? Why can Belarus demand any benefits, and Russia is not on the same terms of fraternity?
          Quote: KP8789
          As for your last words about the overgrown, this is only your point of view, because you

          So yes, this is my point of view, like most comments, by the way and articles on this resource - this is someone's opinion. What is the salt? What tried to say this?
          Quote: KP8789
          take out who and call you in no way, like most of the local commentators.

          Actually, who are you to write this here? What makes you stand out?
          Maybe you know something about me to claim that I am no one?
    2. +8
      30 December 2016 08: 20
      Belarus INDEPENDENT state or so, the flag pants-on-stick? With what fright does someone owe something? Do you feed your neighbors so that they do not make noise and do not build dirty tricks? I assure you there are quite different ways of education than gingerbread.
    3. +4
      30 December 2016 13: 44
      Does Belarus give something to Russia for nothing?
  14. +6
    30 December 2016 08: 16
    The reality is harsh, but some short-sighted comrades continue to demand freebies, apparently forgetting that declaring independence automatically you are leaving for "free bread". If Belarus is jumps in approaching its Baltic or God forbid the Ukrainian scenario, there is no need to talk about the sanity of the leadership. There is no AND / And here solid capitalism and relations are built on the principle of OR / OR. And so to eat for free happens only to the trash bums, they will agree to such a "European kitchen" and the way to decent places will be closed.
  15. +1
    30 December 2016 08: 22
    Lukashenko acts in the interests of his own people!
    1. +12
      30 December 2016 08: 33
      Lukashenko acts in the interests of his own people!

      How pathetic, but they did not think at the expense of whom, in the interests of their own interests and to the detriment of the other? But it would be worth it. Every year, billions of greens torn from the Russian people for empty promises.
      1. +1
        30 December 2016 08: 36
        Assad gets even more "green" ones, who will restore Syria from the ruins?
        1. +7
          30 December 2016 08: 39
          Do you know how much Assad gets? And where does he. The conversation is about Belarus.
          1. 0
            30 December 2016 08: 43
            Lukashenka supports the population of Belarus and the population of Syria "dislikes" Assad
    2. +7
      30 December 2016 09: 20
      Let it be known to you, dear, Syria is on the way of the gas pipeline from Qatar to Turkey. And if not for Assad, we will not see the "Turkish Stream" and a trillion rubles to the treasury from Qatar. Syria has enough hydrocarbons to recover in 15-20 years. It will be restored at its own expense, but by our builders.
      1. 0
        30 December 2016 09: 28
        The gas pipeline from Qatar to Turkey is in my opinion a myth, an alternative to the gas pipeline LNG tankers
    3. +5
      30 December 2016 10: 33
      Quote: Siniy
      Lukashenko acts in the interests of his own people!
      Acts and greets - different concepts hi
  16. +14
    30 December 2016 09: 21
    You can still endure Lukashenko’s non-recognition of South Ossetia and the Crimea, but kissing a gag with Potroshenko during a bloody massacre in the Donbass is already too much. Bulbash is clearly rotten.
    1. +1
      30 December 2016 09: 31
      Lukashenko is an independent politician, not a daub like Yanukovych
      Many in Belarus respect Alexander G. for the work that he did in his country!
  17. +3
    30 December 2016 10: 04
    Quote: Siniy
    The gas pipeline from Qatar to Turkey is in my opinion a myth, an alternative to the gas pipeline LNG tankers

    counter, count pliz. CNG against the pipe.
  18. +2
    30 December 2016 10: 29
    Flog dad, and the thing is over. Or in the corner of an hour for three. lol
  19. +7
    30 December 2016 10: 56
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I remember here the komenty were Old Man, well, his president in Russia. Now there is such silence, AU -Where are you guys?

    Wow, how brave!
    Sasha, don’t shout, but you will be heard.
    This is for you "boys".
    And now on the topic.
    So what do we have? And we have a Republic that doesn’t have resources like the Russian Federation and it buys them. The laws of your so beloved market economy are doing something badly, therefore, in order to provide their citizens with warm winter, and enterprises with gas, villages and collective farms of fuels and lubricants - he has to negotiate with everyone.
    And, what a dream, Belarusian agricultural products will be better than ours. At least I buy Brest-Lithuanian milk, sour cream, unlike yogurt and other ...
    And imagine for a couple of minutes that instead of the Old Man, Belarus has some thread Medvedev or Dvorkovich? Fearfully? Here it is.
    And Old Man, meanwhile, remains a loyal ally of Russia.
    So, dear, first understand the topic, go to Belarus, talk with people - and then draw conclusions.
    1. avt
      +9
      30 December 2016 11: 19
      Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
      And Old Man, meanwhile, remains a loyal ally of Russia.

      laughing Introduced a single means of payment, how did you defile it? Yesterday evening I found out Abkhazia with South Ossetia, finally, did I dishonor you? And then I probably missed. Well, what about Belarus’s air force base? Well agreed upon for opening at the end of 2015? Is he finally up to date? Opened? Ahhhhhh! Probably today in the morning I signed the EAEU Customs Code, which was agreed upon, and called you saying they should start panegyricing on the clave for VO. bully
      1. +4
        30 December 2016 11: 20
        Yernichay ... what else can I say.
        1. avt
          +3
          30 December 2016 11: 22
          Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
          Yernichay ... what else can I say.

          laughing Only this one is a medical fact. bully
          1. +4
            30 December 2016 11: 24
            You can laugh for a long time ... but ...
            Old Man did not sell the country to either the EU or the Russian Federation - a fact.
            The return on attracted investments as a percentage is higher than in Russia - a fact.
            But you don’t need it :)
            1. avt
              +6
              30 December 2016 11: 55
              Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
              Old Man did not sell the country to either the EU or the Russian Federation - a fact.

              Yeah, but that's why the lenders describe the property bully So much so that Butka urgently needed $ 3 yards for "arranging the border with Ukraine from the flow of weapons from her"
              Quote: Olezhek
              And Old Man, meanwhile, remains a loyal ally of Russia.
              Is this a joke?
              Or a propaganda stamp?

              This is ..... SYMBOL OF FAITH bully adherents of the sect of the “Belarusian economic miracle” and the main teacher Batski. But the holiday of “St. Jorgen” ends. with the destruction of the financial pyramid. See "MMM" named after Mavrodi, but it is not possible to shoe the entire EAEU space - the EAEU Customs Code does not order. bully Well or so, But father decided and did not sign. bully Although, of course, laughter is ... it becomes not funny, well, if you remember HOW and WHAT documents were selectively signed by the leadership of then Ukraine in the CIS, well, starting from the 90s. Now, if the analogy of Belarus with Poland of the times of Uncle Leni is FULL, well, before Jaruzelski's demarche on the issue of Solidarity named after agent Bolek, called in the common people Walesa, then here is the analogy with the signing of the EAEU documents and the other day the TC in particular, when in this cartel conspiracy there are at least some, not even restrictions, but simply the framework of the behavior of the members of this cartel conspiracy is indicated. ”To admit, the analogy with Ukraine that reached the Ruins begins to strain. negative
    2. +5
      30 December 2016 11: 28
      And Old Man, meanwhile, remains a loyal ally of Russia.


      Is this a joke?
      Or a propaganda stamp?
      1. +3
        30 December 2016 11: 29
        And what does he need to join EP, what would it get to ALL?
        1. +2
          30 December 2016 11: 55
          And what does he need to join EP, what would it get to ALL?


          Could you post a scan of your Edra membership card?
          I'm interested in numbering ...
    3. +3
      30 December 2016 12: 08
      Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
      And, what a dream, Belarusian agricultural products will be better than ours. At least I buy Brest-Lithuanian milk, sour cream, unlike yogurt and other things.


      Forgot to mention that at a price of 1,5-2 times higher than domestic.
    4. +3
      30 December 2016 23: 12
      Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
      And, what a dream, Belarusian agricultural products will be better than ours. At least I buy Brest-Lithuanian milk, sour cream, unlike yogurt and other ...
      And imagine for a couple of minutes that instead of the Old Man, Belarus has some thread Medvedev or Dvorkovich? Fearfully? Here it is.
      And Old Man, meanwhile, remains a loyal ally of Russia.
      So, dear, first understand the topic, go to Belarus, talk with people - and then draw conclusions.




  20. +5
    30 December 2016 12: 04
    I do not want to comment on this propaganda article by Vladimir Sergeyev, apparently he doesn’t feed badly on such articles, driving a wedge of discord between the two Fraternal States. Russians if for you Lukashenko and Belarus are a parable in languages, so forget about HIM and Belarus, and save your evil for YOURS true enemies. This I wrote for those Russians who, with anger and foam at their mouths, pour dirt on us Belarusians and Lukashenko.
    1. +7
      30 December 2016 13: 09
      Partly agree, unreasonable emotions in relation to the former fraternal republics more than a balanced political analysis. But understand us too. The fact that Lukashenko defends the interests of his country is the norm, but what he does in the form of blackmail looks impartial. In addition, a living example of other neighbors is clearly not conducive to improving understanding on the issue of relationships. Behavioral cliches and expectations apply to Belarusians, unfortunately. Therefore, only one thing - I want not words, but deeds, and conclusions will be drawn on them.
    2. +3
      30 December 2016 17: 52
      Belarus is a small country and the population is also low. Personally, I come from the USSR, and Belarusians are not strangers to me, although, perhaps, they do not think so. I have deep respect for Lukashenka, it's just time to choose: with whom is Belarus? If with the Russian Federation, then it will be a vassalage, when it will have to support all decisions made by the Government of the Russian Federation. If with the EU, the same vassalage, only the Esovtsy with the states will need to podmahivat. You have a bunch of examples, take a look at the territory of the EU and the behavior of the so-called "brothers".
      1. 0
        30 December 2016 17: 57
        Unfortunately, this is a harsh and cruel reality ...
    3. +1
      30 December 2016 21: 28
      Your problems are due to the fact that Belarusians write with a capital letter. And by rank enough with a little one.
  21. +5
    30 December 2016 12: 05
    (The Kremlin refused to make another financial concession.)

    And rightly so. The market rule is "if you don't want it, don't eat it."
  22. +5
    30 December 2016 12: 48
    And you didn’t think about why the media only pour mud on Ukraine and Belarus. Divide, bleed, destroy. With Ukraine swept. Now is the turn of Belarus? They say the bowels of Russia belong to the people, and we even know their names.
    1. +4
      30 December 2016 14: 47
      Well hold on! Wait hamsters will tear you like a hot water bottle. Such common sense in the "News" section is not popular.
    2. +1
      30 December 2016 21: 31
      And you probably think that Russia lives solely on your taxes. By the way there is no greater lie than the Slavic brotherhood.
  23. +3
    30 December 2016 14: 17
    Citizens! Colleagues! Russians (TM ex EBN)!
    Everything is very, very simple:
    1. We see current conditions in the former Little Russia (now Banderostan).
    2. The trends on explicit blackmailing of GDP by the Old Man are obvious to everyone (and in some places Nazarbayev too ....)
    3. US investments in the states described in paragraph 2 are obvious with the aim of Ukrainization ....
    4. GDP Old Man does not pull and does not upset, or encourages, in other words .....

    As a conclusion: we joyfully cultivate unfriendly US (Russia) regimes and PSEVO-states at our expense under the slogans of fraternity and other friendships unchanged by anything intelligible .....

    As a second conclusion: in a few years, in the format of the current Dill, there may already be several "friendly" "states" with a similar set of animals to Ukrop ...

    As a third conclusion: our dear State, for the sake of solving the current short-term tasks of its own "elite", is burying its own future!

    Yes, Colleagues, the "elite" will dump the money, but the problems will remain for us!
    1. +1
      30 December 2016 18: 16
      If Lukashenko immediately went west, Belarusians would live like Poles
      1. avt
        +4
        30 December 2016 18: 34
        Quote: Lex.
        If Lukashenko immediately went west, Belarusians would live like Poles

        Well, yes, yes ... If the Balts, MAZ, BelAZ and MZKT were closed like the Gdansk Shipyard and the RAF, apples might not have been grown on an industrial scale, but cucumbers were easy, but now we would have eaten it because of sanctions. bully We would have held a meeting again against Kaczynski. What else have you forgotten? A-ah-ah! They would protest in chorus with lyakhams against the Nord Stream, well, all branches in general and visas would be to Russia, which is what the leadership of the Ruins yearns for .... solid nishtyaks and no loans from Russia. bully
        1. +1
          30 December 2016 19: 50
          So what if they would close that mana would sell who wanted to buy it maybe it was better it wasn’t necessary to throw money into unprofitable production
          1. avt
            +3
            30 December 2016 21: 21
            Quote: Lex.
            Well, so what would be closed to that mana would be sold who wanted to buy it

            laughing Yes, yes - mana, mana. tyds tyryn Go to the import, buy a rooster and twist his beits. Such shoppers are in vain in ALL CMEA countries, when in the same Bulgaria they bought and ruined the same winemakers and others.
      2. +3
        30 December 2016 19: 35
        Quote: Lex.
        If Lukashenko immediately went west, Belarusians would live like Poles

        They cleaned the toilet and looked after their grandmothers? ... ha ha ha..Familiar saying from the 90s ..)))) bully negative
      3. 0
        30 December 2016 21: 32
        No. Like the Ukrainians.
  24. +5
    30 December 2016 14: 26
    There is nothing new under the sun. Once upon a time, the ever-hungry Black Continent lived like this. Dear Ilyich was promised to build socialism, kissed sweetly and took the money away. They immediately informed Uncle Sam that they were ready to fight socialism until the last black man and received money.
    Africa longingly recalls these blessed times.
    Why not take advantage of Lukashenko’s historical experience in relation to new realities?
    1. +1
      30 December 2016 14: 55
      A clear and intelligent observation! I share the approach: do not supply food, demand loyalty ...... And then, according to EIV Nicholas the First: "All ROSGIIII !!!!"
      The funny thing is: I am an anarcho-communist, my idol is rather N.I. Makhno, than any of the Romanovs, however ... Hatred of the overgrown neo-feudal lords outweighs everything !!!!
      We read the Comments of Satanovsky !!!
      Good girl! I will accept any anti-Semitism with hostility !!!
      I am not a Jew, but I am ready to die for the right Jew!
      A good Russian Jew is a treasure! For the mind is directed in the right direction !!!
      Why feed the dough of ungrateful freaks !!!
      Let every "sponsored woman" work her loot !!!!
      The conversation is extremely simple: There is a result, there is a loot! Like a Pimp !!!
      1. 0
        30 December 2016 18: 32
        Have you ever had an idol in your homeland?
  25. +3
    30 December 2016 18: 15
    The Old Man does not poison from hawthorn, and the article is custom-made Ragnum
    1. 0
      30 December 2016 18: 33
      What is "Ragnum?"
    2. +1
      30 December 2016 19: 22
      Quote: Lex.
      The Old Man does not poison from hawthorn, and the article is custom-made Ragnum

      Such a comment would be ashamed to write .. hi Enough already ? And Old Man, as always, is looking for all the benefits and, in principle, is doing everything right (Belarus has no oil or gas and transit is purely grocery) Spinning like a yule, and world business sharks have been fanging Belarusians for a long time .. !!! THIS FATHER .. I even a little envy the brothers Belarusians, from the bottom of my heart! hi
      1. +2
        30 December 2016 19: 52
        Such a comment would be ashamed to write .. Maybe enough already? And Old Man, as always, is looking for all the benefits and, in principle, is doing everything right (Belarus has no oil or gas and transit is purely grocery) Spinning like a yule, and world business sharks have been fanging Belarusians for a long time .. !!! THIS FATHER .. I even a little envy the brothers Belarusians, from the bottom of my heart
        Would you be ashamed people would have died from a barmatukha and there are no guilty parties at the Old Man, they would go to the tower
        1. +2
          30 December 2016 20: 13
          Quote: Lex.
          Would you be ashamed people would have died from a barmatukha and there are no guilty parties at the Old Man, they would go to the tower

          Can we understand this without Israel ...?
    3. +1
      30 December 2016 21: 35
      They are poisoned by surrogates even like. And they drink more than in Russia.
  26. +5
    30 December 2016 19: 04
    Our brothers are "senior", the Slavs are "correct", but tell me please, are there many states that are friends with you? Everywhere you look - all the enemies: Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, the Baltic States, and the damned West, and Turkey (although no, it is no longer an enemy: the pipe will be laid). and now, among all the states, the Republic of Belarus, which carries the flag at the Paralympics .... No, we need to justify ... our language, our history, our traditions. Yes, we ask for preferences, but excuse me, why was this Customs Union created at all? Maybe the whole reason is that our Old Man does not allow your oligarchs to grab another tidbit? As long as you look down on other peoples, you will not see friends.
    1. +2
      30 December 2016 19: 31
      Quote: alexhol
      Our brothers are "senior", the Slavs are "correct", but tell me please, are there many states that are friends with you? Everywhere you look - all the enemies: Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, the Baltic States, and the damned West, and Turkey (although no, it is no longer an enemy: the pipe will be laid). and now, among all the states, the Republic of Belarus, which carries the flag at the Paralympics .... No, we need to justify ... our language, our history, our traditions. Yes, we ask for preferences, but excuse me, why was this Customs Union created at all? Maybe the whole reason is that our Old Man does not allow your oligarchs to grab another tidbit? As long as you look down on other peoples, you will not see friends.

      Calm down please, who writes what here, this does not mean the opinion of all the people of Russia! There are just a lot of "comrades" here on the site who really want to embroil the peoples of the former USSR ... No need to take offense, but you need to unite! Everything will be fine, I'm sure ...

      We are one people and we have a lot in common ... We need to remember this .. A beautiful song! hi
      1. +4
        30 December 2016 19: 50
        One of my brothers lives in Russia, the second in Ukraine, I am in Belarus. Whose side do I take, who is more precious to me? So with the policy of our state - we experienced enough of everything 70 years ago. to get involved in a new war. In our country there is not a single family where there are no dead, wounded, captive, or exiled relatives. Drive along our roads and you will see the monuments of the burned villages, soldiers killed by Jews. We still find shells in the land, this land is just watered with blood and RUSSIANS and UKRAINIANS and BELARUSIANS.
        1. +5
          30 December 2016 20: 27
          Quote: alexhol
          Drive along our roads and you will see the monuments of the burned villages, soldiers killed by Jews. We still find shells in the land, this land is just watered with blood and RUSSIANS and UKRAINIANS and BELARUSIANS.

          I was there ... (schoolchildren were transported in childhood ..) Youth, hee hee ha ha .. And when they got off the bus and the silence in my ears crushed terribly ... How many years have passed, and I remembered this horror in my soul that there nature itself froze ... (it’s just the moans and cries of our grandfathers and grandmothers, etc.)

          We all remember ... I’ll take my guys back there to feel deep down (genes to get out, from the feeling that they could do with us ..))
          These are the things in the tank troops ... You directly hit me for the sick gene!
          1. -1
            30 December 2016 21: 17
            Last year, my wife and I went to remember the victims of the Rositskaya tragedy. Perhaps you have not heard of her. she is not so known as Khatyn or Babi Yar, but from what happened there the hair stands on end. [media = http: //lupa.by/istoriya/rositsa.-ogn
            ennaya-tragedy.html]
      2. +2
        30 December 2016 19: 57
        STARPER -Your products are all hydroponically cheese and cottage cheese where there is no milk, not a couple of Belorussian where everything according to the Soviet guest corresponds.
        1. +2
          30 December 2016 20: 30
          Quote: Lex.
          STARPER -Your products are all hydroponically cheese and cottage cheese where there is no milk, not a couple of Belorussian where everything according to the Soviet guest corresponds.

          You, as I understand it, "a torpedo for my soul," comrades released ....? negative Oh well...
    2. +3
      30 December 2016 21: 35
      Some friends are worse than enemies. Especially leeches.
  27. +5
    30 December 2016 19: 36
    Yes, in the article, everything is written correctly. Only now, what are we Belarusians to sense from this? How do we live, ordinary people, Belarusians. Civilians? We want to be part of Russia for a long time, so that we don’t have such crap like that. We should be Russia and not all NATO, the EU and all other disadvantages would come to us and not carry our heresy, blood, murders, tears, war, and all other misfortunes and tribulations are different. Because when we become part of Russia, we will immediately become Russia. And there will be nobody to climb into us without soap. And everything will be quiet, peaceful and calmly and the Russian troops will stand with us. And let anyone try to attack us then.
    And so it turns out ???? It turns out that, as that Zhirinovsky spoke-Russians, Russia-buys, buys funds-in Belarus, Lukashenko-Belarus, Lukashenko is still a separate state. Another is an independent country. It’s kind of direct. That’s why Belarus- and you need to be part of Russia. In order to be Russia, and not some kind of alien country. So that the Russian troops stand, so that we are Russia, Russian. And not like that wolf, how many do not feed, it looks into the forest anyway.
    When you are Russians, Russia will understand. And pass on all the kov, all the traitors of Russia, the Russians, the people of Russia, all kinds of organized crime groups and other things? So that all people on planet Earth and every person and people, country, republic — in short, all look at Russian Orthodox, Orthodox Russia — and see Russian Orthodox, Russia right-handed — protection, peace, prosperity. And therefore, ourselves. Voluntarily and voluntarily, they simply pleaded with the Russian Orthodox, Orthodox Russia, to take them into Russia, together with their country, land, territory. So that in Russia there would be, not only beggars, the poor so that there would not be. middle and rich class. So that people come to Russia, look at the Russians, Russia, and they, so that there is one desire, how to become part of Russia. That it be a dream for them, and they, to implore the Russian Orthodox, Russia is Orthodox -Take them in the team of Russia. to Russian.
    И
    Recall that since the beginning of 2016, the Republic of Belarus has been insisting on lowering the price of gas from 132 to 73 dollars per 1 cubic meters.

    I don’t understand Lukashenko. He agreed on the cost. He signed the documents. Once agreed, pay. Or join Russia.
    Damn, what about simple Belarusians, what should we do ?? Do you think we want all that shit here in Ukraine or something like that? We want to be part of Russia, but what's the point? Here, what are we to do, mere mortals ??
  28. +2
    30 December 2016 20: 13
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: Lex.
    The Old Man does not poison from hawthorn, and the article is custom-made Ragnum

    Such a comment would be ashamed to write .. hi Enough already ? And Old Man, as always, is looking for all the benefits and, in principle, is doing everything right (Belarus has no oil or gas and transit is purely grocery) Spinning like a yule, and world business sharks have been fanging Belarusians for a long time .. !!! THIS FATHER .. I even a little envy the brothers Belarusians, from the bottom of my heart! hi

    There is nothing to envy us. The state is not rich, the dwarf is weak. He is incapable of defending himself. Here we, the Russians, envy Russia! This is the only superpower on planet Earth. It provides itself-EVERYTHING: from resources to the army, from food to the territory, from people to scientists. And what are we ??? We are zilch, a point on the planet Earth. We can neither protect ourselves nor provide anything. What are you jealous of? .... we bend down and suck everyone and give in point. Not that you are the only superpower Russia is Orthodox , Empire of Good is powerful. Strong. Smart. Having everything.
    1. 0
      30 December 2016 20: 24
      fool I understand that something went wrong in your life. I wish the next year that my wife would return, they would take me to work, my analyzes became good. And most importantly. What would they learn to love their homeland! And all you will have is good!
    2. +2
      30 December 2016 20: 51
      Quote: Al. Peresvet

      There is nothing to envy us. The state is not rich, the dwarf is weak. He is incapable of defending himself. Here we, the Russians, envy Russia! This is the only superpower on planet Earth. It provides itself-EVERYTHING: from resources to the army, from food to the territory, from people to scientists. And what are we ??? We are zilch, a point on planet Earth. We can neither protect ourselves nor provide anything. What do you envy ?.

      He wanted to be rude at first, and then changed his mind ... hi
  29. +6
    30 December 2016 20: 23
    Quote: 210ox
    I’m here .. It’s true that I’m not a kid, I’m already in the top ten. And Old Man really looked good against the background of our drunk EBN .. Yes, and in principle, he knows his politics tightly now. He’s not interested in an ally, his main state. Isn’t it? hi
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I remember here the komenty were Old Man, well, his president in Russia. Now there is such silence, AU -Where are you guys?

    He-Lukashenko-got the people. In that .opu drove-PPC. Neither work, nor salaries, like slaves. He also imposed taxes. For the unemployed, he introduced a tax! A person cannot find work, but he has a tax for that fights. From the one who already has no money. At work, nepotism and matchmaking. All relatives are bosses and their sons and daughters. And the people are full in the pope.
    1. +1
      30 December 2016 20: 54
      So quiet .... There are so many whiners here ....! Got it already ..
  30. +3
    30 December 2016 20: 26
    Quote: alexhol
    fool I understand that something went wrong in your life. I wish the next year that my wife would return, they would take me to work, my analyzes became good. And most importantly. What would they learn to love their homeland! And all you will have is good!

    It will be good when Belarus becomes part of Russia. I love my homeland. I want my motherland to blossom and smell and no one to attack it. And my children and I should live well. Like all Belarusians want to be strong a country-Russia-providing itself-EVERYTHING: from resources to defense and the army, to territories and everything else). And you, Lukashenka, should not be confused with your homeland.
    What does the homeland have to do with it (the Lukashenka) tax on the unemployed, raising the retirement age, reducing work, and the lack of salaries.
    1. +2
      30 December 2016 21: 14
      Quote: Al. Peresvet
      What does the homeland have to do with it (the Lukashenka) tax on the unemployed, raising the retirement age, reducing work, and the lack of salaries.

      laughing wassat Everything is familiar, hope that in Belarus it will be the same ..?

      You are nevertheless gentlemen gentlemen liberals ...... Everything is useless!
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  33. +3
    30 December 2016 23: 22
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    What does the homeland have to do with it (the Lukashenka) tax on the unemployed, raising the retirement age, reducing work, and the lack of salaries.

    laughing wassat Everything is familiar, hope that in Belarus it will be the same ..?

    You are nevertheless gentlemen gentlemen liberals ...... Everything is useless!

    Do you READ ???? BELARUS AND BELARUSIANS-IN THE COMPOSITION OF RUSSIA WANT!
    WHAT HERE IS YOUR PICTURE WITH MAIDANA OF UKRAINE ??? WE HATE BANDER, THESE MAIDED-KILLING THEIR PEOPLE OF UKRAINE IN THE SOUTH-EAST OF UKRAINE, THE WEST, THE EU, NATO. WE-RUSSIANS, RUSSIA LOVE AND WANT WE ARE IN RUSSIA.
    You remind idiots who are scribbling comments. But they haven’t figured it out. And Lukashenka, what to hide, he drove people into a deep .ope. He-got the people.
    So, your comment is inappropriate in general and generally out of place. You-read my comments or turn on your head before you write that you don’t have to go anywhere. I should give you all the articles here about his tax not unemployed. about raising the retirement age, about low salaries, when a boss receives 150 million-two hundred million, and a worker costs three million. At the price of bread-10 thousand. And his bosses and all kinds of bureaucrats keep people worse than animals. There is no work. There is nowhere for people to settle down, but he also introduces this fucking tax.
    You are confusing something. Calling me a liberal. Or comparing me to a Ukrainian comedian. We are not against the Russians, we even want to become part of Russia. It’s just that your Lukashenko doesn’t want to. He’s the king in Belarus. here, just you are more like a liberal.
    In this case, you are very, very, very wrong.
  34. 0
    30 December 2016 23: 32
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    What does the homeland have to do with it (the Lukashenka) tax on the unemployed, raising the retirement age, reducing work, and the lack of salaries.

    laughing wassat Everything is familiar, hope that in Belarus it will be the same ..?

    You are nevertheless gentlemen gentlemen liberals ...... Everything is useless!

    You, dear, for reflection.
  35. +3
    30 December 2016 23: 38
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    we bend down and suck off everyone and give a point.


    Hike, I correctly diagnosed those, if YOU are omitted, then you do not need to write for All Belarusians, As one opponent said to you, "I wanted to be rude to you, but changed my mind" - the end of the quote. Think what you write!
  36. +4
    30 December 2016 23: 55
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    we bend down and suck off everyone and give a point.


    Hike, I correctly diagnosed those, if YOU are omitted, then you do not need to write for All Belarusians, As one opponent said to you, "I wanted to be rude to you, but changed my mind" - the end of the quote. Think what you write!

    Omitted, you. Here and do not write for all the Belarusians. I understand, right?
    Campaign, you yourself put the correct diagnosis, it is YOU OMITTED.
    Think yourself what you write. Well, if you're just not some bureaucrat Lukashenka.
    OR TO YOU PRINT-YOUR COMMENT ????
  37. +1
    31 December 2016 00: 00
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    we bend down and suck off everyone and give a point.


    Hike, I correctly diagnosed those, if YOU are omitted, then you do not need to write for All Belarusians, As one opponent said to you, "I wanted to be rude to you, but changed my mind" - the end of the quote. Think what you write!

    Well, please, your comment.
    VictorMinskiy December 24, 2016 11:34 ↑
    Once again about nothing ... And it is written so that it would be annoying the Belarusians themselves. And apparently you are waiting for just such a reaction that for jumping! We are already jumping, we have nothing to eat, no work, taxed like wolves on the hunt. Belarusians eat one common enemy! In the West and in the East they know this .... And I am playing this card in my interests ...
  38. +1
    31 December 2016 07: 21
    Quote: Lex.
    poor thing, Belarusians robbed you from the porch you probably write
    Listen, go kiss the gums with the Palestinians (like your late Perez ....... by the way, what's the bottom line? Did he kiss a lot?), Don’t let us go.
  39. 0
    31 December 2016 19: 18
    Today on "Russia-1", the all-Russian state TV channel will show "Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession" why would it?
  40. c3r
    +2
    1 January 2017 02: 18
    Yanek also began to flirt. So he got drunk that he was flying to Rostov.
  41. +1
    3 January 2017 23: 44
    Beautifully act, just handsome. Americans are good to you. You know how to scold people. And the same hi
  42. 0
    5 January 2017 19: 55
    Post-Soviet countries thus joined the WTO:
    • Kyrgyzstan, December 20, 1998 (133rd WTO member).
    • Latvia, February 10, 1999 (134th WTO member).
    • Estonia, November 13, 1999 (135th WTO member).
    • Georgia, June 14, 2000 (137th WTO member).
    • Lithuania, May 31, 2001 (141st WTO member).
    • Moldova, 26 July 2001 (142nd WTO member).
    • Armenia, February 5, 2003 (145th WTO member).
    • Ukraine May 16, 2008 (152nd WTO member)[15].
    • Russia, 22 August 2012 (156th WTO member)
    • Tajikistan, March 2, 2013 (159th WTO member).
    • Kazakhstan, July 27, 2015 (162nd WTO member)[16].
    Four post-Soviet countries remain outside the WTO: Azerbaijan, Belarus, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. In 2013, Turkmenistan took the initiative to join the WTO. In 2016, Belarus began active negotiations on accession to the WTO.

    I think if the Republic of Belarus follows the development of Ukraine, then it will have more losses in the economy, because Ukraine is more important for the EU than the Republic of Belarus, and the fact that Ukraine has long been a member of the WTO, and the Republic of Belarus is still not, it means that integration of the Republic of Belarus into the EU economic market is possible only with greater losses for the Republic of Belarus than those losses which Ukraine will and will bear in the future.
    MTZ will also be cut into scrap metal, just like HTZ is now in Ukraine, MAZ is unlikely to be more attractive to EU comrades than KrAZ in Ukraine, etc.
  43. 0
    8 January 2017 00: 27
    Parhati Judah

  44. +1
    8 January 2017 20: 43
    There is one thing, BUT. Friendship with Europe is guaranteed to deprive Lukashenko of power, but he does not want this ... And the Russian Federation does not particularly climb into his power ...