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Tricky comments. APU-2016: reflections on numbers

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The end of the year is an unequivocal affair and thoroughly familiar in terms of summing up. Including in the Ministry of Defense at neighbors. In the Armed Forces of Ukraine also sum up, publish releases and inquiries about the state of affairs in the army Square.


Why I did not pass by? It's simple. They have already learned to lie there, but alas, no, to use the calculator. Apparently, the calculator is weapon terrible PTUR, because the States and did not put this terrible weapon. And I have, and I seem to be able to use it.

Come on.

Getting through the interpretations of the official Ukrainian language on the website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, I understood one more thing. It’s not just the way it is written with such words. It is necessary that the mind of the person who wants to penetrate boils, pounded and jammed.

So that what should not enter the brain does not enter.

But something has gone and even left.

Combat casualties.

I will begin, perhaps, with interesting numbers.

According to the certificate, which the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine bungled, and then distributed by the Office of Public Relations, in 2016, the fighting losses of the Ukrainian army were 211 non-combat man - 256 human.

I apply a terrible calculator, it turns out 467 person. We remember.

The very fact that non-combat losses are higher than combat losses will be discussed later. Now I'm more interested in another figure.

This figure was voiced by Mr. Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak (attention!) 15 this June, delivering a report at NATO Headquarters in Brussels.

So, according to Poltorak, it turns out that the APU from 1 January to 1 June 2016 lost in battles 623 person It is clear that Russia is to blame for everything with its absolutely irresponsible peace plan, and so on.

Who, I'm sorry, lying? Poltorak, who had to show the "face of the goods" in front of the owners, talking about the hardest battles with Russian armored camel Altai divisions, or officials of the Ministry of Defense, who need to save their blood from the nose on payments and compensations?

It is hard to say. Poltorak could and lie. But the fact that the Defense Ministry downplayed - do not drive to the grandmother.

I use the calculator again. The difference is 412 human.

And this, I note, without taking into account the losses under Shyrokyne, is without daily hassles and shelling all along the front line, this is without events on the Svetlodar arc. Damn it, Holmes, how? Necromancy?

I will not speculate, but it is clear that in the second half of the year, the figure for the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine could not become less because there were more battles. Of course, maybe she did not. There are no specific figures today. But surely, if the losses were, they could only increase the total figure. But not to reduce.

In any case, a sudden decrease in combat losses. with 623 to 211 the person will remain on the conscience of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. Well, since with conscience the leaders of any Ukrainian department have full order, then I think this moment can be closed and proceed to the next one.

Non-lethal losses.

The figure in 256 a person talks about several things at once.

For a start, it is worthwhile to consider in general what is behind this concept. If we use the academic definition, then non-combat losses include those who died from non-combat wounds, illnesses, and who committed suicide, who were shot by conviction of a military tribunal.

In Ukraine, we had to take a step further and include such reasons as road accidents and poisonings (including alcoholic ones) from this list.

Even the Ukrainian media are forced to cover what is happening in the army, seemingly leading the war. However, more people are losing as a result of drunkenness, hazing, and fights.

It turns out that a soldier of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has a much better chance of dying not in battle, but being poisoned by vodka or at the hands of his own “combat” comrades.

Everyone is trying to prove to us that “Ukraine and Europe”, and that Russia was not standing next to it in terms of freedoms and prospects. And great! We have already passed these perspectives. And I really do not want to stand next to me. In order not to splash brains of another disappointed in freedoms and prospects.

If in terms of economic development and rampant criminality, Ukraine really plunged into the nineties of the last century, then by the number of non-combat losses, it is even difficult to find a comparison where.

Probably somewhere in the middle of the 19 century, before the invention of antibiotics. And this is in the presence of field hospitals, donated by the States. With seemingly existing staff of military psychologists. In the 21 century, Ukrainian soldiers died, like their colleagues, four hundred years ago.

Tricky comments. APU-2016: reflections on numbers


As for frank criminality, which blooms with the terry color in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, so much has already been said about this that I don’t want to repeat myself.

Equipment.

In the same certificate from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine the losses of equipment are indicated. If you believe the certificate, in the 2016 year, as a result of combat damage, the loss of weapons and military equipment in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is more than 100 units.

This is a battle loss. How much was broken drunk, drowned, burned and incapacitated as a result of lack of preparation of crews and technicians, sold in LDNR, the reference is silent.

And correctly silent. Technique - not people, and it is easier to write off. So if by some miracle to get this information, the numbers would be breathtaking.

But there is one clue in the help.

Over the 2016 year, the Ukrainian army received about 1 thousands of new (modernized) weapons and military equipment, and another 700 units were repaired and returned to the Armed Forces.

Actually, the moment of truth. 700 weapons and equipment units were repaired ... after what? There are no direct indications that these units have been put out of action: the direct hands of the LDNR fighters or the VSUS curves. The fact is that they only repaired and returned 700 units. I wonder how much was thrown out due to the inability to repair?



And a few words should be said about the new and “modernized” equipment and weapons.

It is no longer a secret, again, that Ukraine today is completely bankrupt in respect of international contracts for the supply of new weapons. Attention, the question is: where does something new come from in the APU?

It is worth noting that the new for export is the full-fledged dollars today. A new in the APU - it does not understand the hryvnia when. No, of course, there is something new in the Ukrainian army. But it is used definitely not in the ATO area. Avoid, as they say. That did not work out, as with the complexes of counter-battery struggle.

For exhibitions, parades, for spetsura, which just will not break and do not push the militia.

You can, of course, be considered "new and modernized" machine guns "Maxim", which are used by the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the ATO zone. If so, then yes, taken on faith.









What conclusions can be made here? And all the same. Of course, the APU today is still a force. Especially on paper and command statements. Nevertheless, it is still quite a large amount of education, with the presence of military equipment.

Quality ... Yes, about quality, reproaches will always go to the “ten”. The current army of Ukraine is really not the one that was two years ago. This is another army.

But in the light of all this, not in terms of forecasts, but in terms of predictions, I would like to say the following. Yes, the path traversed by the Ukrainian army from complete decline to complete moral decay is impressive. Long road, state-owned tent in the field, alien peak interest. Basically, everything.

Yes, joyful cries are still heard from there that in Russia "representatives of the people have poisoned the" boyars ". But what is there in the ATO fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine being poisoned, we do not know, and we do not need it.

The fact that they will continue to continue in the same spirit. At least, I do not observe any prerequisites for changing the situation. An army that does not want to fight humanly, because it does not live according to human laws, this is sad. One side. Not with mine, I will note.

On the other hand, it is very good, because the faster this corpse finally decomposes, the easier it will be to solve some political moments.

So I sincerely wish in the new year the glorious forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to continue their difficult path of degradation and self-destruction. The competition in 2016 is not bad, so “go the right way, comrades!”



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  1. DMM2006
    DMM2006 29 December 2016 15: 43
    +30
    The fact that our guys in the DPR and LPR crumble them is far from the same amount as Poltorashkin complained about, that’s a fact. It’s a pity that just among the dead real Natsiks you can count on the fingers. Mostly ordinary children die, who were either shaved forcibly in the army or their heads were stupid until they were completely dull.
    Now, if among the combat losses of the Armed Forces there were exclusively gov ... nuki from the national battalions, and even better from the glad government and the administration of the President of Ukropia, with the piglet at the head itself, then it would be possible to rejoice. SINCERELY!!!
    And so it only becomes more painful from what was done with our brothers, or rather, with their brains, if everything came to that.
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 29 December 2016 16: 25
      +2
      Quote: DMM2006
      Now, if among the combat losses of the Armed Forces there were exclusively gov ... nuki from the national battalions, and even better from the glad government and the administration of the President of Ukropia, with the piglet at the head itself, then it would be possible to rejoice. SINCERELY!!!

      So those who came to power as a result of the Maidan-also advocate for this with both hands! The National Battalions are also standing across their throats. Because then they have the right to ask: why were they on the Maidan?
      Well, stubborn Nazis, too, must be minimized, so there is a double-edged sword.
      But in general, I completely agree - fewer Natsiks, cleaner nation.
      1. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 29 December 2016 17: 52
        +11
        Also, at first, I wanted to agree on emotions: fewer bans are more derogative — a cleaner nation. And in the process of writing, I slightly rethought it, I rewrite it again. Less than Natsik, ban derlogs, duped Natsik-ban derlogs, all this is good. But the realities, the most cunning, tried not to get into a meat grinder, either in Europe or in Russia (in no case do I claim that all those who escaped from the war are tricky). This is certainly not proof, but at least in Primorye I did not meet decent people who left Donbass (I was not lucky). I had to communicate with obvious lovers of freebies and drunks from there, from which I concluded (for myself) that the most decent remained at home to help their LDNR.
        And so it turns out: many decent and stupid derlogs are dying, the percentage of living cleverly done is growing. Then everyone will begin to lay claim to their piece of the pie, `` after all, they left so as not to participate in the bloody deeds of the ban derlog regime. '' `` Fun '' then the restoration of the country will take place.
    2. aleks700
      aleks700 29 December 2016 17: 58
      0
      They stupefied their heads to complete dullness.
      So this is the Natsik ethnomutants
    3. MoJloT
      MoJloT 30 December 2016 11: 12
      +2
      People driven by national interests represent the most organized, disinterested, fearless part of the population of any country, ready to defend its interests, at any place and time. Another question is that in Ukraine these people and everyone else are run by outright criminals.
      1. fox-66
        fox-66 1 January 2017 10: 34
        +1
        It is only necessary to strictly distinguish between patriots and moral freaks - those who enjoy the killing of defenseless people. And children and women especially. And Svidomo patriots are in the blood.
    4. c3r
      c3r 2 January 2017 07: 14
      +2
      They are not brothers to us!
  2. One of you
    One of you 29 December 2016 15: 44
    +7
    There is nothing to say about the article, except that the Author does not quite understand the policy of the conflicting parties, and it is such that no one at this (intermediate) stage is required to voice the true figures of losses, solely for political and strategic reasons. Therefore, the loss figures will be hidden until the last, and APU and VSN.
    Struck by another - the last photo. I don’t take the inveterate criminals who also decided to “shake hands” on the common grief, and they were not destined, but I suppose that most of those who were buried are junta-drugged people who shed their own and other people's blood for the benefit of the Kiev vampires. That is when the Bolsheviks with their experience of turning weapons against their commanders would come in handy in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but so far they are not there and we are seeing these terrible facts.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 29 December 2016 18: 39
      +5
      Quote: One of You
      Struck another - the last photo.

      There is also a video
  3. Brigadier
    Brigadier 29 December 2016 15: 46
    +1
    As the saying goes: "Healthy bules ..." laughing
  4. izya top
    izya top 29 December 2016 15: 49
    +3
    but no No. no loss (s) tymchuk
  5. volodya
    volodya 29 December 2016 15: 55
    +25
    They don’t lie, they just have such brains! For example, Klitschko.
    1. Aleksandr12
      Aleksandr12 29 December 2016 16: 08
      +2
      Klitschko at least hired a person to write and interpret his thoughts in congratulations laughing
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 29 December 2016 18: 00
        +3
        Quote: Aleksandr12
        and interpreted his thoughts


        Dear, Klitschko and "thoughts" are not compatible concepts, so God wished at birth. bully
    2. igfrost1957
      igfrost1957 30 December 2016 08: 08
      0
      Well, then everything is clear. Firstly, a "European" Ukrainian, and secondly a boxer.
  6. unsinkable
    unsinkable 29 December 2016 15: 58
    +2
    I’m wondering how the guardians of the Ukrainian way of life, who circumnavigate Russia and live among this terrible decomposition of the army, industry, the whole state, do not see this terrible picture. From the information I received, I realized that they had one workshop developing. A sewing flags workshop for coffins. The country has failed in tartarara.
  7. Aleksandr12
    Aleksandr12 29 December 2016 16: 05
    +3
    Roman, of course, I understand that war is an adversary and all that, but in the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are people too and most of them are in captivity. therefore
    So I sincerely wish in the new year the glorious forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to continue their difficult path of degradation and self-destruction. The competition in 2016 is not bad, so “go the right way, comrades!”
    and attached illustrations. probably out of place.
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 29 December 2016 17: 54
      +5
      but people are also in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and most of them are in captivity.
      What are you), raise statistics on contract soldiers, how many people are recorded, because military service is a stable income ........ who does not want to serve (and this is half the male population of Western Ukraine) work in the north and Siberia .
      1. yawa63
        yawa63 30 December 2016 04: 24
        +2
        I confirm - the drilling crews on Vankor are entirely composed of "zapadentsev"
    2. murriou
      murriou 30 December 2016 00: 34
      +3
      Quote: Aleksandr12
      in the APU are people too

      And in the Wehrmacht, it seems like people were? And in the SS? And in the Gestapo?
  8. Scud
    Scud 29 December 2016 16: 22
    +5
    Our motto is to fight until the last Ukrainian! So hold on to the Russians!
    1. uragan114
      uragan114 29 December 2016 16: 33
      +4
      Quote: scud
      Our motto is to fight until the last Ukrainian! So hold on to the Russians!


      Ours is the same. We are holding on !! )))
  9. cap
    cap 29 December 2016 16: 24
    +3
    Obviously something with arithmetic even looking at the last photo.
    And another question, is this one cemetery for all the APU?
    1. Scud
      Scud 29 December 2016 16: 33
      +8
      Most likely this is a cemetery for the unidentified. And they are in every area.
  10. verb
    verb 29 December 2016 16: 37
    +11
    Alexander 12. Of course, intoxicated, of course, people. And in ISIS? There are also intoxicated and also people. Well, let's not fight with either the VSUshniki or the ISIS. Let's cry in chorus about their losses, kiss our gums, shake hands and go home. So are they? And they are in our backs, despite the fact that they are only drugged and -all-so-people. For me, the more losses they have (combat, non-combat) - this is only better for us. Faster will pass dope .
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 29 December 2016 18: 04
      +2
      , kiss the gums, shake hands and go home
      This is not enough. We anoint our forehead with green stuff and give them a gun in their hands.
  11. Vladimir Batkovich
    Vladimir Batkovich 29 December 2016 16: 43
    +13
    Russia is completing the construction of six military bases in the Arctic, laid two nuclear icebreakers, four nuclear strategic submarines, six latest generation diesel submarines, four destroyers, twelve small missile boats and two fleet technical support ships, has successfully tested the latest electronic warfare, air defense systems and a new intercontinental ballistic missile, anti-ship cruise missiles, launched into production "Armata", built in 2016. 86 schools and 312 kindergartens and 147 hospitals ...

    Thanks to Western sanctions, agriculture and the industrial complex have been raised, we are constantly exploring and developing more and more new gas and oil fields; at the same time we are building three gas pipelines at once (to China, to Turkey and North Stream-2); we are building nuclear power plants all over the world ... We have invented a cure for cancer ... We often fly the cosmos at times more often than the rest of the world ... We tear Barmaley in Syria, like the Tuzik rag ... They drove them under the backboard and chose their "president" from them ... Gas to the Crimea spent, electricity ... building a bridge ...

    Meanwhile, in Ukraine, a school public parachute was solemnly opened with rallies and television cameras; sawing into metal another strategic defense enterprise - the Kharkov Tractor (Tank) Plant, and the remnants of the fleet nailed to the pier; wildly save helicopters (there are only seven of them left for the whole Nenka); buy from the EU with a fucking premium Russian gas; for a pittance in huge quantities they export black soil to Panam; cut down the last remnants of the forest ...; nostalgic for Chernobyl and selflessly risking their lives, expensive and dangerous to use American TVELs mutilate (yes ... just tear to shreds) all their nuclear power plants; longing for radiation, they turned their homeland into a worldwide dump of radioactive waste, and in Kramatorsk the cyborgs from "Aydar" again outrageously squeezed three geese from Avdotya's aunt ...
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 2 January 2017 02: 07
      0
      Life has become better, life has become happier?
  12. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 29 December 2016 16: 52
    +2
    For what? for what idea so many graves? What have they achieved? Which enemy was defeated?
  13. cedar
    cedar 29 December 2016 17: 12
    +1
    "... On the other hand, it is very pleasing, because the sooner this corpse finally decomposes, the easier it will be to resolve some political issues.
    So I sincerely wish the glorious forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to continue their difficult path of degradation and self-destruction in the new year. The groundwork for 2016 is not bad, so "you are going the right way, comrades!"



    Roman, are you d ... k or smart? You don’t understand who blew, killed and buried whom?
  14. esaul1950
    esaul1950 29 December 2016 17: 27
    +2
    But sorry for morons.
  15. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 29 December 2016 18: 11
    +23
    And what are these questions and presented to Roman? I sometimes watch footage of Banderlog on the front line and do not see there "doubting" persons. And quite ideologically sharpened turnips. And what is the difference between the Germans deceived by Hitler and the Ukrainians deceived by Bandera? were Russians, but they were not taken prisoner at all.
    AFUshniki are now well-dressed, armed, ideologically motivated .... but the fact that they decompose in drunkenness and theft is from the realization of their criminal essence.
    Personally, I’m not brothers. Brothers in the DNI and LC. So it was from the very beginning and I do not intend to wag.
    It is possible that there are good, but deceived people in the ranks of the Armed Forces ... I admit. But they are FIRING towards the EAST. And this is quite enough to destroy them or before they lay down their arms. And then to the court.
  16. Mel Vlad
    Mel Vlad 29 December 2016 19: 15
    0
    [b] [/ b] it is necessary to drive Ukrainians for the Dnieper
    accept Russian citizenship yourself
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  17. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 29 December 2016 19: 37
    +5
    Quote: One of You
    the Bolsheviks with their experience of turning weapons against their commanders would be useful in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but for now there are none and we are observing these terrible facts.

    The myth of any significant influence of the Bolsheviks on the collapse of the Russian army is greatly exaggerated.
    Much more for the decomposition of the Russian (also French and British) army was done by well-organized propaganda of the German General Staff (the corresponding services of France and Great Britain worked equally effectively with the German army).
    But in a state close to comatose, the Russian army plunged the Provisional Government with its idiotic decrees.
    The army was finally killed by the fact that in 1917 the time had come for the redistribution of land plots in the community. Each peasant soldier understood that if he would not be present personally during the redistribution of land, then he would lose land.
    (The redistribution of land allotments in the community was carried out with a periodicity of 12 years. By the way, the previous one led to the revolution of 1905).
    Although I admit that without the influence of the first and second factors, the third would not be so murderous.
    1. Cro-Magnon
      Cro-Magnon 29 December 2016 21: 25
      +3
      Well, what nonsense about propaganda of the Germans .... the very first order of the interim government to destroy UNITALITY in the army and navy, the introduction of the advice of soldiers and sailors and the appointment of commissars ... that’s what killed RIA!
    2. murriou
      murriou 29 December 2016 23: 53
      0
      There is still a lot for the collapse of the Russian army, that in the REV and in the WWI, they made permanent defeats and useless losses.
  18. Kenneth
    Kenneth 29 December 2016 20: 34
    +2
    Losses in battles with alcohol should be considered combat.
  19. lexx2038
    lexx2038 29 December 2016 21: 16
    0
    And I liked the grandfather-machine guns. If skillfully, then miracles can be worked out of it, although I doubt that the Natsiks have studied this science. Probably as seen in the movies - and scribble.
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 2 January 2017 02: 16
      0
      machine guns "Maxim" not from a good life, but due to the lack of replaceable barrels for PKM and PC, machine guns "Maxim" withstand a higher rate of fire, tk. are water cooled ...
  20. sabakina
    sabakina 29 December 2016 21: 53
    +1
    No, well, I'm just wondering where he put the barrel of the "Maxim"? Exchanged for pants? what
  21. vit
    vit 29 December 2016 23: 05
    +2
    Earlier, on June 10, the military prosecutor of Ukraine Anatoly Matios said that the non-combat losses of the Ukrainian army as of the summer amounted to 1294 troops.
    Among the causes of non-combat losses: illness, traffic accidents, poisoning (including alcohol), accidents, suicides and intentional killings.

    "Reckless relations, non-combat losses, both irrecoverable and sanitary, are striking in scale. More than a thousand killed, about 3 thousand wounded. These are different non-combat situations: suicide, fatal alcoholism, careless handling of weapons, harassment, and the like," Matios said. (c) http://warfiles.ru/show-139937-v-harkovskom-gospi
    tale-ranenyy-geroy-ato-pererezal-sebe-gorlo.html
  22. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 December 2016 06: 40
    +1
    In any case, the sudden decrease in combat losses from 623 to 211 people will remain on the conscience of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

    In the bottom photo, only where you can see: more than 15 rows, more than 15 graves in a row. Already by the most conservative estimates, more than 225 people. ONE cemetery! And judging by the knolls and land that did not fail, this burial occurred at about the same time. And how many of them did not get ukrokakly from the battlefield, and how many were missing! Yes, these mothers, whose bodies are in the graves, would not jump with pots on their heads in the squares, but pack up and unscrew these giblets and Co., all that is possible, and also that is impossible! angry
  23. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 30 December 2016 11: 55
    +1
    It seems to be a pity for these ancient people, but on the other hand ... It is necessary to put them in the Red Book, otherwise the world will remain without such a race.
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    1. commbatant
      commbatant 2 January 2017 02: 19
      +1
      these are not the last losses of the APU, we promise!
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  25. Slavin-67
    Slavin-67 2 January 2017 10: 38
    +2
    yes, that's understandable. but what losses, on the other hand, do our new friends and our "polite" ones have? or Ukrainians shoot strictly at the sparrows? we do not know: Uncle Vova wanted to keep all these not good numbers secret, and for some reason the Kremlin trolls have no desire to deal with this issue ...
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 2 January 2017 16: 36
      0
      Quote: slavin-67
      yes, that's understandable. but what losses, on the other hand, do our new friends and our "polite" ones have? ....


      yes it would be interesting to know, but since Uncle Vova had not worked at a coal mine before, I think we won’t know ...
    2. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 5 January 2017 11: 19
      0
      Do you think our tsifiri will be more honest than the APU-shnyh? Or they will cause less political resonance both in Russia and among "friends". Another question: do you need it? If you want to lead yourself instead of Vova, press the elections, no, so find your curiosity a more worthy application, at least housing and communal services
  26. Bat
    Bat 2 January 2017 22: 41
    +1
    Nah ... we are definitely not brothers. They are traitors.
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      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 3 January 2017 01: 15
        +3
        Quote: An Rivne Rivne
        Zradnik, all the same iz Shvetsії write.

        Oh tse beat .. Well yak fat ... laughing
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          1. Polishchuk Dmitry
            Polishchuk Dmitry 4 January 2017 04: 10
            0
            You, that there’s a boozer boozer loosened up? Zhiranul probably for courage?
      2. commbatant
        commbatant 3 January 2017 20: 14
        +1
        Do you know where the yellow-black came from? during the Battle of Poltava, the Swedes of Khokhlam knitted yellow-blue scarves so as not to soak by mistake ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 3 January 2017 22: 48
          +3
          Quote: commbatant
          Do you know where the yellow-black came from? during the Battle of Poltava, the Swedes of Khokhlam knitted yellow-blue scarves so as not to soak by mistake ...

          No, I didn’t. Fair sad .
  27. SEER
    SEER 3 January 2017 21: 28
    0
    Quote: An Rivne Rivne
    Hto come to Russia-Ukraine with good reason, that kind of undead.

    Well, Russia did not come to war. and you’ve got so much ...
  28. SEER
    SEER 3 January 2017 21: 55
    +1
    Quote: An Rivne Rivne
    Zradnik, all the same iz Shvetsії write.

    if your hero is mazepa and your flag is patch,
    I won’t be your brother, USA gasket
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  30. Polishchuk Dmitry
    Polishchuk Dmitry 4 January 2017 04: 07
    0
    Quote: Polishchuk Dmitry
    I sincerely wish in the new year to the glorious forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to continue their difficult path of degradation and self-destruction. Hit in 2016 is not bad, so "go the right way, comrades!"
  31. Litexa
    Litexa 4 January 2017 20: 52
    +1
    Another article promoting hatred of the Ukrainian people. It would be better if they plugged their holes and did not climb into someone else's garden.
    1. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 5 January 2017 11: 29
      +1
      there is nothing inciting national hatred of my people in this article: it’s just an attempt to sort out the facts of brain abuse. and if you so want to plug holes, go and shut up, silently, without shouting and advising others.
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