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US Army - the strongest in history (J. Kirby)

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"I don't think for all history mankind was armed forces as capable, intelligent, strong, with such good leadership and resources, as the US Army today ", - said the representative of the US State Department, John Kirby, in response to a recent statement by the President of Russia.

“Taking into account many factors, including not only the military, but also our history, geography, the internal state of Russian society, we can say with confidence: today we are stronger than any potential aggressor. Anyone ”[/ i], said V. Putin.

The search for the best army have a thick scum of populism. If we count in relative (specific) values, then history knew many great assemblies.

Mobility and strategic art of the army of Genghis Khan.

Or so motivated, well-coordinated and well-controlled fighting machine, as the Wehrmacht model 1941 of the year.

In absolute perspective, State Department spokesman J. Kirby is absolutely right. Against the background of the modern level of development of technology, any army from the past centuries looks like a bunch of ragged ones. And modern radar and self-guided munitions would have been perceived by the soldiers of Genghis Khan for the presence of unclean forces.

The main intrigue of the “cold war” remains the comparison of the armies of the great powers. The problem is that 40 the world's largest economies in the open were not at war with each other for seven decades. We can draw conclusions only on the basis of statistical data on the number of soldiers and units of military equipment. As well as historical information, which we customize to modern realities.

Historical experience itself does not mean anything. Who could believe that the backward, never had a strong fleet Japan will break into the top three leading naval powers, gain a number of brilliant victories on the naval forces of Britain and the United States - and just as quickly drop out of the list of the strongest fleets. Less than 40 years for the entire cycle. With the subsequent revival already in a new guise and a new millennium.

Who considered the USSR a great military power at the beginning of the 30-s? No one. How so?

What else to expect from a country miserably losing the previous three wars (Crimean, Russian-Japanese, First World). The events of the summer of 41 also contradict the events of May 1945.

The Americans were defeated at Pearl Harbor and shamefully blew out many battles. In the end, they “sprawled” Japan with an 1: 9 score. This was the final ratio of military losses in the Pacific theater.

In Vietnam, a huge army could not defeat a small but proud country. One should not forget that the United States fought not with Vietnam, but with North Vietnam on the side of the South Vietnamese government in Saigon. The goal is political control over both parts of the country. The goal, in those conditions, is impossible.

But even the most ardent hater of the United States does not deny that the military-technical level allowed the Yankees to win one day. Just killing all Vietnamese under zero. The poisonous "Orange", which sprayed the jungle, was the morning dew against the background of the combat composition of the VX or megaton power charges.

After 15 years, the same story will be repeated in Afghanistan. But who would argue that the Soviet army was weak?

Who is stronger - Russia or the USA?

The number of fighters of the fifth generation - 370 vs. 8.

The number of sea carriers of cruise missiles: 142 vs. 17.


Tracked BMP T-15 "Armata", armored forces - the power and pride of the Russian Armed Forces


The number of developed allies from among the countries of the first world, such as Germany, Japan, United Kingdom. Possessing their own armies, powerful and equipped with the latest technology. And ready to provide the Pentagon with bases in all parts of the world.

The US military has a multinational format. Modern Russia has not a single sane supporter left who would try to somehow strengthen Russia's defense capability, and not get another batch of military equipment. Of course, on credit, with a deferment of payment for 50 years.

The number of warships of the first rank (nuclear submarines, cruisers, aircraft carriers), the US fleet exceeds the fleets of all countries of the world combined.

The same ratio exists in the number of military satellites (reconnaissance, communications, presumably, combat satellites).

The Pentagon is trying to create a strategic missile defense system with elements of sea and land-based. A global Echelon radio interception network has been created.



Their technique is good, but the humans did not come out - neither with the mind, nor with the body. Prefer to sit safe and press the buttons. As for the accomplishments of feats, then this is not provided in the contract. (with)

Someone will remind about the importance of motivation and moral-volitional qualities of servicemen. But in one spirit you will not be full. The samurai were ready to hurt their heads on the deck of enemy aircraft carriers, and how did that help them?

I don’t think that the motivation of domestic recruits, often hiding from “agendas,” may be higher than that of the 20-year-old American “vets” (veterans) who enlisted in the army for free college.

To be honest, each army has its real professionals, sergeants and officers. "Nails", which keeps everything.

And the number of patriots who are ready to break their opponents' flags on the words “to break stripes” on both sides of the ocean reaches frightening values. After all, speaking does not mean doing.

A bitter dispute about the quality of training of the Russian and American military can go on forever. But everything is much simpler, here are two historical facts.

1. Not a single American ship died from the detonation of its own ammunition. At all times, "home accidents" were frequent in the fleets of other states (British "Vanguard", Japanese "Mutsu", the Russian battleship "Empress Maria", the death of BOD "Brave").

There is one explanation - the strictest discipline and observance of instructions would be impossible without high training of personnel. Here you have the "Pearl Harbor base, more like an expensive yacht club."

2. For half a century on more than 200 nuclear submarines of the US Navy there was not a single accident with damage to the reactor core.

More examples?

At the Yankees for seven years I did not break any of 180 «unfit fighters» F-35. Despite aerial balancing act, flying at night, refueling, taking off and landing on the swinging decks of ships.

US Army - the strongest in history (J. Kirby)

F-35 vertical night landing on an aircraft carrier


Epilogue

The geopolitical confrontation between Russia and the United States rests on nuclear deterrence, according to which we have marked parity. And no matter how much the circular probable deviation of missiles (CEP) differs - the use of nuclear weapons is like multiplying by zero. Whatever the original data - the result will be zero.

Why then all the other kind of troops? In the world, in addition to the United States, there are still 180 countries, and many other problems.

The listed American systems, ships and drones do not carry a direct military threat to Russia. This technique serves to strengthen geopolitical influence and as a “last resort” in resolving local conflicts.

Someone wisely will notice that we are not losing, but simply do not want to participate in this “competition”. On the other hand, official statements on this topic follow almost daily. We are proud of Russia's military might at the Victory Parade and try not to notice shortcomings.

However, the army - its appearance, training and equipment, is a direct reflection of the state’s economy. In my opinion, the main problem is not a question stronger - weaker, but the very popularity of this issue. And the constant appeal to this topic in the speeches of officials. This happens for one reason: after all, Russia and the United States simply do not have any other topics for comparison.

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  1. Titsen
    Titsen 26 December 2016 06: 47
    +2
    Again, another hysteria of the Kirby maniac!

    When will he finally shut up, and thinner - when will he shut up !?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 December 2016 08: 53
      +29
      No, everything is much funnier here. I don’t know if it’s Putin himself or a team of those who write for him has a noble troll, but everything was done very beautifully.
      Putin said that “we are stronger than any potential aggressor".

      And these not very clever heads in the West, like Pavlov's dogs, immediately reacted to the first part of the phrase. Starting to declare the power of the US Army. Not realizing that the word "aggressor" bears the main meaning.

      In short, Kirby is worth contacting the Kremlin for a premium. Beautifully exposed the aggressive essence of the American army 8)))
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 26 December 2016 11: 26
        +2
        Quote: Spade
        Putin said that "we are stronger than any potential aggressor."

        The military in the United States probably understood the meaning of his words correctly. It was about the fact that we could cause unacceptable damage to any attacker. In principle, we can agree with this. But today we would not have reached Berlin. However, they are up to Moscow too.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 December 2016 11: 50
          +1
          The US military chose to remain silent.
          This is not even a matter of "unacceptable damage", it is a matter of the inevitable escalation of any direct military clash between the United States and Russia to a global nuclear war. In which no one will be happy, neither Europe, which the Americans do not really care about, nor the United States itself
        2. opus
          opus 26 December 2016 12: 14
          +3
          Quote: Alex_59
          . But today we would not have reached Berlin

          Yes.



          Once we could have slipped through Berlin without even noticing

          =================================
          But everything changes, I think "there" they will sing Red Alert more than once
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 26 December 2016 14: 36
          +2
          Quote: Alex_59
          But today we would not have reached Berlin.
          Duc, no longer necessary. As if it makes no sense, except that one more set of keys to pick up (for seventy years, locks, go, changed). The most difficult thing is to suppress remorse by pressing "start".
        4. slava84
          slava84 28 December 2016 08: 21
          +2
          And the army of the USSR as of 1941 would have reached Berlin? The truth is learned in the process!
        5. KaPToC
          KaPToC 29 December 2016 11: 04
          0
          As for Berlin - a moot point, what will hinder us?
      2. Blondy
        Blondy 26 December 2016 14: 14
        +3
        Of course, Kirby here publicly tried on the aggressor's underwear for the US Army. But I would not confuse "the most expensive" and "the strongest". Not everything is measured in money here. And Suvorov also spoke about the number and skill.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 December 2016 14: 28
          0
          I do not think that the American army is the most expensive. In absolute figures, yes, but in relative figures, for example, how much is the cost of one soldier ... Here, it is more likely that Israel is in first place in the world. Due to the high percentage of expensive modern weapons plus high training costs for both troops and mob. reserve.
          1. Blondy
            Blondy 27 December 2016 07: 51
            0
            I don't think the audience here is so dumb that they didn't understand anything without clarifying "in absolute terms"
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 26 December 2016 09: 56
      +4
      "The US Army is the Strongest in History (J. Kirby)"
      Crammed with appliances and instructions - there isn’t strong! A strong army is an army in which Victory!
      Outstanding Victory of the American Army in the 20th Century - December 1989 - US military operation "Just Cause" in Panama to remove from power the country's leader Manuel Noriega, accused of drug trafficking and the promotion of terrorism.
      Where else is the Victory of the most powerful army?
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 26 December 2016 10: 49
        +3
        I don’t think that in the entire history of mankind there have been armed forces as capable, smart, strong, with such good leadership and resources as the US army today, ”said US State Department spokesman John Kirby in response to a recent statement by the Russian president.


        These are not his words! Something like this was already crazy one used to say !! Apparently heeded the speeches of Hitler and Goebbels !! wassat It’s a pity that they cannot sue him for plagiarism !! laughing
      2. opus
        opus 26 December 2016 11: 50
        +4
        Quote: To be or not to be
        Outstanding American Army Victory in the 20th Century — December 1989

        Well, then why?
        Guerra Hispano-Estadounidense 1989


        2MB again
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 26 December 2016 06: 55
    +14
    Phew, damn it belay , I already thought - Kaptsov .... wassat
    Two boxers can measure as much as they want in pipettes and pour mud at each other, but only the ring can reveal which one is stronger.
    So here request Some say that if you get into my yard, you will get along the faces, and the second will hang around the street, wave the causal place and yell at every corner, which are the strongest. But everyone should take one word and one and the other, because no one wants to climb into the open through the fence to confirm these statements smile ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 26 December 2016 07: 16
      +2
      Phew, damn belay, I already thought - Kaptsov ....


      smile I thought so too ... it painfully seemed like an article ... maybe his admirer?
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 26 December 2016 10: 46
        +6
        At first, it seemed to me that Kaptsov.
        And then .... not, the author, after all, knows his job tightly.
        Not a single detonation of ammunition - oh-oh-oh ... and Soviet ships, especially Empress Maria, detonate at every turn. How did this author miss Novorossiysk? Forgot what? Or does he know exactly what was there?
        Not a single accident of the F-35 plane ... Wow, damn it, why such preferences.
        What about the best friend of the Vietnamese .. - the pilot, and part-time Senator John McCain? Isn’t he following such instructions? When did he shatter planes on an aircraft carrier?
        And what about those burnt alive in pure oxygen - the Apollo 1 crew. What about the Challenger? And here, you never know whether there were such episodes, one Marshal Nedelin and the team were worth what.
        No, incomprehensible article. For Kirby, or something, campaigning. So I spoke earlier on this topic. These fools, talking heads, pronounce exactly what they are ordered to say.
        But from those who scribble their speech ..... these are clearly the same victims of the USE, the American standard. They are completely unable to understand the contextual content of speech.
        Therefore, they look like boys in a sandbox.
        And ... the Chinese tortoise ... with them!
        ...
        As for Empress Maria - please do not bathe. Not a ship of the fleet of the USSR. I just think that to drag the fleet of tsarist times in such an article is ANACHRONISM.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 26 December 2016 16: 39
          +2
          Quote: Bashibuzuk
          What about the best friend of the Vietnamese .. - the pilot, and part-time Senator John McCain? Isn’t he following such instructions? When did he shatter planes on an aircraft carrier?

          What does McCain have to do with the fire? In this case, he is the victim: evil ... the resulting "Zuni", with which it all began, flew from the "Phantom" on the other side - exactly in the car next to McCain.
          For that fire you need to ... dry the deck crew, first of all - gunsmiths. It was on their conscience a gross violation of instructions.
          First of all - connecting the PU cables before placing on the catapult. As a result, any power surge in the on-board network (and they were a chronic problem of aircraft carrier vehicles) - and that's it, "the missile is gone." That is why, according to the instructions, the physical connection of the cable was made already on the catapult - so that there was a clean deck on the trajectory of the missiles. But at Forrestal they scored.
          The second account ... is a disregard for safety checks (for the convenience of visual inspection, they had long ribbons, which, unfortunately, had a decent sail - and even flew out from a strong wind). As a result, airborne fuses often stood on a combat platoon even before being deployed on a catapult.
          Well, epic dumbbellism is the acceptance on board of rusty 1000-pound bombs with "old-style" explosives detonating from a fire, which, moreover, began to decompose (15 years of storage in the tropics, sometimes under the open sky). At the same time, they were afraid to even lower these bombs into the cellars - they decided to hang them on the cars of the first wave in order to quickly get rid of them. According to the law of meanness, under the same "skyhawk", which the NAR from the "phantom" hit and pierced it by the PTB, there was just such a bomb - and it, falling into a puddle of burning fuel, eventually tore off and mowed down the entire fire brigade on duty.
          ICHH, the only smart officer in this story with bombs turned out to be ... a logistician from the Subic base. When he found out where the bombs from his warehouse would go, he refused to sign the documents and release the supply vessel until he received a written order from his superiors to send these bombs specifically to Forrestal.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 26 December 2016 06: 56
    +11
    We are suited by the military power of Russia at the Victory Parade and try not to notice the flaws.


    Not true ... 2 Chechen campaigns ... how many flaws were revealed ...
    and the Georgian-Ossetian conflict ... who just did not speak out about the problems in our army ...
    useful criticism is a great thing and it has benefited our army.

    Further, the American army suffers from one incurable disease ... heh heh fear of big losses in a full-scale battle.
    Mosul vividly showed what all these technical bells and whistles of military equipment cost ... ultimately, anyway, the fighting spirit of an ordinary soldier who is not afraid to die in battle decides.
    Therefore, the bragging of the Americans with their military might can be perceived as the stupidity of an insolent pitching ... hehe heh, the bigger the cabinet, the louder the crash of its fall.
  4. cap
    cap 26 December 2016 07: 38
    +9
    In Vietnam, a huge army could not defeat a small but proud country.

    Was McCain led that way too? He also considers himself great.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 December 2016 11: 33
      +4
      Quote: cap
      Was McCain led that way too? He also considers himself great.

      No, McCain was dragged on a stretcher. Either it crashed into a fountain, or into a swamp, but they pulled it out of a reservoir with a very tarnished reputation and with broken limbs. This freak saved that he had a high-ranking dad. He drummed his five-captive from captivity, devouring fried grasshoppers, simultaneously cursing the USSR for having been shot down by a Soviet-made rocket, which served as a manifestation of manic hatred for everything connected with Russia.
    2. silver_roman
      silver_roman 26 December 2016 13: 38
      +1
      only in the battles of the Vietnamese, more than a million fell, and the Yankees - 60 thousand. And it is still not clear when the imprint of war will come off the post-war generations of the Vietnamese.
      1. cap
        cap 26 December 2016 14: 38
        +3
        Quote: silver_roman
        only in the battles of the Vietnamese, more than a million fell, and the Yankees - 60 thousand. And it is still not clear when the imprint of war will come off the post-war generations of the Vietnamese.

        You leave this arithmetic to yourself, the Vietnamese fought and won, just like we did in the Great Patriotic War, there are also statistics not in our favor.

        Do not bring God to trump statistics, in a conversation with the Vietnamese. Very proud people hi Free tip.
  5. novel66
    novel66 26 December 2016 07: 43
    +15
    Genghis Khan's fantastic army was fantastically powerful. it remains to discuss the features of the dwarf hird and the elven horsemen. crazy article, not a big fan of ratings, but here the minus asks
    1. Bashibuzuk
      Bashibuzuk 26 December 2016 10: 53
      +1
      Novel. I don’t know anything about connicof alves?
      Enlighten, please.
      I always believed that elves are mostly archers, foresters, trackers, and pedestrians. And in general, all of themselves are ..... pinkish shades.
      And they, okazza, are also equal to the Sarmatians? Cataphractaria, no?
      ...
      Right opinion, right.
      1. novel66
        novel66 26 December 2016 10: 57
        +4
        they, they say, were different, pinkish, yes, but they seemed not tolerant. the elf archer horse units were slipping somewhere, weren't Sapkowski?
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 26 December 2016 11: 07
          0
          Damn, ashamed to admit, not a single thing Sapkowski did not read.
          Yes and figs with him.
          But on the railing shield, this elf, aka Orlando Bloom, rides very well.
          Immediately noticeable, in the elven forests there are strong breaking waves. Therefore, surfing is developed.
          Or the elven forests in Haiti are located. In the surf zone of Waikiki.
          1. Bashibuzuk
            Bashibuzuk 26 December 2016 12: 02
            0
            Fir-trees, the correction is small.
            Surf Waikiki in Hawaii.
            In Haiti, only zombies can fly into .... wassat
            1. novel66
              novel66 26 December 2016 12: 05
              +3
              Sapkowski's "witcher" is a great thing, I strongly recommend
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 26 December 2016 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: novel xnumx
      it remains to discuss the features of the dwarf hird and the elven horsemen.

      I protest! You forgot epic horse crossbowmen! laughing
      1. novel66
        novel66 26 December 2016 17: 53
        +2
        for sure, and this is Pirumov’s
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 26 December 2016 07: 44
    +3
    today we are stronger than any potential aggressor. Anyone
    - straight balm for the soul!
  7. ImPerts
    ImPerts 26 December 2016 08: 12
    +7
    Let the Americans be the most powerful army on the planet. Let them call themselves the smartest. They will write themselves to the top of all ratings. That is their right.
    Our right and duty to discourage them from thinking about such an opportunity.
  8. Kirill750
    Kirill750 26 December 2016 08: 19
    +3
    the article says correctly -Technique is strong but little people aren’t too damn small They want to win the war and stay alive It doesn’t happen
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 December 2016 08: 24
    +1
    smart, strong, with such good leadership and resources as the US army today, ”said US State Department spokesman John Kirby


    Saying a retired admiralty, with a pronounced syndrome of senile disease, this is not yet an expert opinion. Chatter about anything.
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  11. EvgNik
    EvgNik 26 December 2016 08: 37
    +2
    with such good leadership

    Strongly said.
    Their technique is good, but the people didn’t come out - neither with the mind, nor with the body. They prefer to sit in safety and press buttons. And as for the achievement of feats, then this is not provided for in the contract

    And that is even better. Neither reduce nor add.
  12. murriou
    murriou 26 December 2016 08: 59
    +2
    Who could believe that a backward, never having a strong fleet, Japan would break into the top three leading naval powers, gain a number of brilliant victories on the naval forces of Britain and the United States - and just as quickly drop out of the list of the strongest fleets. Less than 40 years for the entire cycle.

    MORE THAN 40 years. The author shyly "forgets" that the rise of Japan as a naval power included a number of convincing victories in the RYA, and before that there was still a big war with China in 1894-1895, incl. on the sea.
  13. savage1976
    savage1976 26 December 2016 09: 25
    0
    And what kind of photo at the end of the article?
    1. cap
      cap 26 December 2016 14: 48
      0
      Quote: savage1976
      And what kind of photo at the end of the article?


      The plane vertically takes off from an aircraft carrier.
      1. savage1976
        savage1976 27 December 2016 06: 17
        0
        I'm talking about another photo, there is an aircraft assembly plant. Is it interesting our planes or not ????
        1. cap
          cap 27 December 2016 07: 43
          +1
          Quote: savage1976
          I'm talking about another photo, there is an aircraft assembly plant. Is it interesting our planes or not ????

          28. Marietta, Georgia, 2010: This was the last time all final assembly posts for the F-22 Raptor were filled. I used a fisheye lens and I just love the way the whole line flows. ”

          There are more photos.
          http://www.codeonemagazine.com/f16_article.html?i
          tem_id = 165
  14. Mwg
    Mwg 26 December 2016 09: 28
    +4
    “I don’t think that in the entire history of mankind there have been armed forces as capable, smart, strong, with such good leadership and resources as the US army today,” said the representative of the US State Department John Kirby ....
    And they themselves learned to go to the pot, they no longer need to change diapers ...
    "1. Not a single American ship died from the detonation of its own ammunition. At all times," domestic disasters "were a frequent occurrence in the fleets of other states (British" Vanguard ", Japanese" Mutsu ", Russian battleship" Empress Maria ", the death of the" Brave ")." Or maybe there was never any ammunition on American ships? Why should they, the enemy is far away, until they get there, will they always have time to load?
    USA defeated Japan only by using nuclear weapons
    the author, do not distort, it’s not good
    1. aliis-M
      aliis-M 28 December 2016 06: 26
      +2
      Quote: MVG
      USA defeated Japan only by using nuclear weapons

      You are mistaken, they defeated Japan only by using the carrier fleet ;-)
      and nuclear weapons were simply dropped so that everyone knew how it works.
      1. mark2
        mark2 28 December 2016 09: 02
        +1
        You are mistaken, they defeated Japan only by using the carrier fleet ;-)

        They defeated them only on the naval theater with the help of aircraft carriers, as you said. For the land theater, the Yankees asked Comrade. Stalin, so that the USSR entered the war with Japan after the defeat of Germany. And the bomb was dropped more for intimidation more than for strategic necessity. In this you are right.
        1. aliis-M
          aliis-M 21 January 2017 01: 50
          +1
          Well, here I agree with you, and I don’t see any reason to argue - a historical fact.
      2. Mwg
        Mwg 28 December 2016 10: 37
        0
        For aliis-M and mark2. By the end of the war, the United States lost more than 2/3 of its fleet and began to use civilian vessels to land on the islands occupied by the Japanese. During such operations, often, the Americans could not even use naval artillery to support the landings, and the landings suffered terrible losses, storming the well-defended positions of the Japanese. There were cases of mass desertion and open riots by soldiers in American units. The USA is modestly silent about all these facts and, at the same time, conducts active propaganda in articles, films, and official speeches of its victoriousness in that war. In fact, the United States was on the verge of losing to Japan.
        Now, as a rule, the dropping of bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki from all commentators is considered only on the one hand - the political one, as an opportunity to show everyone their capabilities, especially the USSR. But. There was another, purely utilitarian, goal - to improve their deplorable situation on the theater of military operations, which they safely did.
        It was after the bombing that the emperor of Japan announced to his troops the need to surrender for the sake of the survival of the nation. It is with this wording. It must be understood that for the follower of the Bushi-do tradition and the representative of the ancient Samurai dynasty, such a statement is a monstrous disgrace, if not caused by the highest necessity. So for Japan it was the dropping of bombs that was the basis for capitulation.
        1. aliis-M
          aliis-M 21 January 2017 02: 01
          +1
          And you look at how many ships in the Japanese fleet by this moment are left, and which, and in what condition. Add the total resource depletion, because by the end of the war some of the ships were at bases, corny waiting for fuel. Compared to Japan, the United States was not all that bad. And they always conduct propaganda, but no one here said that it was a small victorious war for them, it was a full-scale heavy war at sea, with defeats and Pyrrhic victories, but in which, admittedly, they ultimately won.
  15. MaksoMelan
    MaksoMelan 26 December 2016 09: 57
    +3
    The author offers the whole world is not proud of his army? Akritize her to the whole world? To do this, there are certain people who must do this. And they talk about it. And they are also discussing on this resource. The author proposes to ban the Victory Parade? In honor of the war in which our army saved the country from genocide, extinction .... Now the author has the opportunity to print all the shortcomings of the modern Russian army in his opinion and put it here for discussion. Maybe one of the experts reading this here will see. Or maybe he will read about it some future Suvorov who will be able to raise the aria to a new height. Well, the question is if the author doesn’t rattle the mess .... And he can also send a letter to the Commander-in-Chief, the Minister of Defense and the General Staff and other addressees. I do not think that such an opportunity was in Imperial Russia. Now there are special addresses for such messages. And sometimes they even answer from there.
  16. masiya
    masiya 26 December 2016 10: 21
    +6
    Historically, a rotten nation - the United States ... and they should not compete with us ... the result will be one ... and this day will come !!!
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 26 December 2016 19: 32
      +1
      Thumped soldier
      grunted shabby
      trophy old saxophone
      and shone on his chest
      medal "For the city of Washington" hi
  17. BecmepH
    BecmepH 26 December 2016 10: 43
    +10
    Explosion on Enterprise January 14, 1969

    During the preparation of one of the F-4J Phantom II fighter-bombers for a sortie, the warhead detonated a 127-mm unguided missile Mk 32 “Zuni” suspended under its wing. As a result of a rocket explosion, a severe fire broke out in the aft of the aircraft carrier, which, in turn, caused a series of explosions of aircraft bombs and unguided aircraft missiles. According to eyewitness data and evidence gathered by the commission, 20 powerful explosions occurred on the flight deck of the nuclear submarine in just 18 minutes, including eight detonating bombs with a caliber of 500 pounds (227 kg). In more detail, according to the events of that day, restored during the investigation, the ammunition on the aft part of the starboard side of the F-4J Phantom II aircraft carrier (aircraft number 103), which was located in the aft area, was the first to explode, as a result of which a large source of fire arose in that area.

    However, after a while, namely at 8:26 in the same area of ​​the flight deck, another powerful explosion occurred - it was caused by the simultaneous detonation of ammunition suspended on several A-7 B Corsair II attack aircraft and including 500-pound unguided bombs Zuni missiles and more than 400 shells of 20 mm caliber for aircraft guns.
    This does not count. It was a festive salute.))))
    The rest is boring to refute ...
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 26 December 2016 14: 15
      0
      And the author forgot to indicate how many atomic bombs we and the staff have lost.
  18. Altona
    Altona 26 December 2016 10: 56
    +7


    Remembering the immortal film "Seventeen Moments of Spring". Dialogue between the Wehrmacht General and Stirlitz on the train. The Americans will be killed by their own technology. It's hard to disagree. And at the end about fanatics, we project it onto ISIS. The general speaks prophetic words.
  19. Altona
    Altona 26 December 2016 11: 03
    +1
    Quote: BecmepH
    This does not count. It was a festive salute.))))

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    And the aircraft carrier Forrestal, renamed as a joke in Firestall. On which is it rumored that John McCain made a rustle?
    1. cap
      cap 26 December 2016 11: 52
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: BecmepH
      This does not count. It was a festive salute.))))

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      And the aircraft carrier Forrestal, renamed as a joke in Firestall. On which is it rumored that John McCain made a rustle?


      Altona is a cool story, it’s especially pleasant that our man wrote the text, and so far seen.
      “Seventeen Moments of Spring” is the twelve-episode Soviet television feature film by Tatyana Lioznova. Filmed by the novel of the same name by Julian Semenov.
  20. Ural resident
    Ural resident 26 December 2016 11: 25
    +3
    In principle, the article correctly says. Do not underestimate the enemy. We have already had so many failures in history from hatred. America, if it wants, can mobilize and build up industry and war machines while the most powerful and numerous in the world. They were dangerous back in the days of the USSR, when there was a huge country and a Warsaw bloc, and now even more so - when the countries of the former Soviet bloc are already against us, and the former republics too. We must not relax, we must be smarter and more collected, which, however, Putin said. And all this American power will disappear only when the world ceases to work for the dollar. By the way, the arrival of Trump destroys the illusions about the collapse of the American economic system. If he really returns the industry from China, even increases the economy, then it will be worse for us than Mrs. Clinton.
    1. cap
      cap 26 December 2016 12: 00
      +1
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      If he really returns the industry from China, even increases the economy, then it will be worse for us than Mrs. Clinton.


      It will be worse if someone somewhere does not remember that "Dad Joe" during World War II moved the leadership of the industry, from the bed to the leather sofa in the office with the telephone, closer to the machines and the people. And if you do not do something reminiscent of such a style of work, then yes, Mrs. Clinton will be remembered as his own grandmother. You cannot argue with you. hi
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 26 December 2016 13: 23
      +1
      I agree with you completely.
    3. Mwg
      Mwg 28 December 2016 11: 04
      0
      Do not believe in the legend about "shapkozidatstvo". Any losses to Russia have always been the result of someone's subtle side play on the field of high command personnel. Our warriors have always been gambling, fearless warriors who, in a critical situation, put the lives of their comrades above their own. At the same time, our warrior always showed ingenuity and a non-standard approach to difficult situations and was in no hurry to die aimlessly. Wars have always been won, not least due to the attitude of the rank and file and their immediate commanders.
      As for the US defense industry, I would like to note that they have good practices, but in the event of a conflict, such developments will not last long. all this is prohibitively expensive and extremely technologically advanced. During WWII, they had to break the "free" market system and outsource the construction of ships to one person, giving him the workers almost into slavery. From eq. crisis, the United States was saved only by indemnities and reparations received from the losing side, as well as their seized gold reserves.
      Americans are afraid of only one thing - the ability to manage finances and the ability to feed the right people in time, which, in fact, is the same.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 29 December 2016 06: 23
        +1
        I’m interested in the sources of your information about salvage with indemnities and gold reserves.
        After the war, the United States "gave out" 40-50% of industrial output. Yes, there was no war on their land. But this is the lyrics ...
        And people do not need yellow metal, they need goods, food. The more technologically advanced the product, the greater the profit share. On a horse is the one who produces more of such products. (We can compare the GDP of the modern "technological power" Japan and the "energy superpower" of the Russian Federation)
        1. Mwg
          Mwg 29 December 2016 13: 54
          0
          I can’t give sources, I’m looking for a long time. type in a search engine a request about the size and sources of gold transported to the United States after WWII.
          At the expense of products: it is not enough to produce it, it still needs to be sold. The profit share appears only when the product is converted into money. And further. the phrase "After the war, the United States" gave out "40-50% of industrial output." empty as a drum. Do not be offended, I will explain why. 40-50% of industrial products - from what are these percentages calculated? Where were they given out? To the external market, to the internal one?
          About GDP. What kind of GDP do you mean by offering to compare? GDP are different: "The following types of gross external product are distinguished: - nominal: expressed in prices of the current year; - real (real): expressed in prices of the previous year or another, taken as a basis; - actual: reflects those economic opportunities, which were realized; - potential: reflects those economic opportunities that are potential. GDP can be expressed in two ways: The first is in the national currency of the state, and, if necessary, it can be converted into the currency of a foreign state for reference according to the exchange rate. The second way is to present GDP in terms of PPP, i.e. purchasing power parity.There are three main methods by which GDP can be calculated: - by income; - by expenditure; - by value added. When calculating by the income method, GDP is determined as the sum national income, depreciation, indirect taxes minus subsidies and net factor income from abroad.At the same time, national income is understood as the sum of salaries, rents, interest payments and corporate profits. When calculated using the expenditure method, GDP is determined by the sum of such values ​​as final consumption, gross capital formation, government spending, exports and minus imports. also called the production method. In this case, GDP is calculated as the sum of the added values, which are understood as the total value of the product. "
          So what are you asking now with sarcasm?
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 19 March 2017 20: 13
            0
            GDP are different:

            Let's make it simpler: the budget of the Russian Federation (the richest in fossil resources) for the 17th year is $ -260 billion, the budget of Japan (low in natural resources, but with technology, hi-tech industry and managers) - 840 billion, for one "social network" is allocated 277 billion $.
            You can be big and have a deuce in basic subjects, except for physical education. You can weigh 60 kg, and be ahead of the whole school (including hard work). Who will be hired by a large leading company?
            Yes, our “dvoehchnik” from a poor family, was an excellent student and an athlete in the past, but got addicted to drugs, scared off and sent all his friends, became ill with all the parasites right away, moonlighting as a security guard in a store. He believes that he is so well, because he was once the best of all. Or is it parasites "puppeteers" ...
    4. 3danimal
      3danimal 29 December 2016 06: 02
      +1
      That's right, at the beginning of the 20th century, the "kosorylyh Japs" threatened to throw hats ... And they lost. Because we were not ready, technically and organizationally.
      Following the logic of some commentators, we couldn’t lose Tsushima, but we had a fighting spirit (churching, scrapings, cheap cannon fodder for the tsar - emphasize the necessary). Sailors from sinking ships, apparently, should have torpedoes floated on the enemy and bite their teeth with armor? ..
      And on the fields of World War I, with a terrible lack of ammunition? Machine guns from the trenches + barbed wire confidently stopped the "human wave" with bayonets at the ready - there was a qualitative change in the means of warfare. By the way, Russian soldiers were not too eager to die for medals for incompetent commanders (and also for the faith and the tsar), who sent them to machine guns without ammunition and artillery preparation - it was at this time that "blocking detachments" appeared and the executions of those who disagree with whole companies began. ..
  21. HAM
    HAM 26 December 2016 12: 23
    +1
    Friends, what did you want !? After all, only an "exclusive nation" can have "armed forces strong, capable, smart, with good leadership" .. And in general - Obama is a black God ..

    Without making any comparisons, the Kremlin pointed to the State Department’s mental abilities for sure .. Pride doesn’t lead to good.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 26 December 2016 13: 23
      +1
      I’ll add - it’s not bringing anyone.
  22. Hort
    Hort 26 December 2016 12: 40
    +2
    “I don’t think that in the entire history of mankind there were armed forces as capable, smart, strong, with such good leadership and resources as the US Army today,” said State Department spokesman John Kirby in response to a recent statement by the Russian president.
    “Taking into account many factors, including not only the military, but also our history, geography, the internal state of Russian society, we can say with confidence: today we are stronger than any potential aggressor. Anyone ”[/ i], said V. Putin.

    popularly it is called "Measure with bolts".
    Amers bolt may be slightly thicker (military budget, bases, etc.), but ours penetrates deeper, given the number of capitals taken and wars won.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 26 December 2016 13: 37
      +1
      The new war will be different, where great and, more precisely, decisive importance will be played by technology and instant combat readiness.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 26 December 2016 14: 42
        +2
        Quote: NordUral
        The new war will be different, where great and, more precisely, decisive importance will be played by technology and instant combat readiness.

        This is only the first month of the exchange of strikes, including nuclear weapons, then the old weapons, hastily repaired and restored, will be used. The more complicated the weapon, the longer the production process, even the United States will have a hard time, instead of abrams, rivet Sherman again, instead of f15-22-35 - thunderbolts or something else ancient. Of course, there are more mobilization resources in the United States (they freely buy or squeeze and store at home), but the location of factories and the settlement of the able-bodied population mainly along the coast makes the United States more vulnerable.
        From the exchange of nuclear weapons strikes in the first hours or days, we lose 30-50% of the population, the United States is about the same, neither zhps-nor glonas (satellites) will really work because they will try to cut them down in the first place, which means thousands of axes and other CDs will have to fly almost blindly. That we, that the United States will "go blind and deaf," even China will not do anything until the dust settles down, just in case, except that it will bomb Japan on the sly.
  23. Zatoichi
    Zatoichi 26 December 2016 12: 48
    +1
    Frankly speaking, I don’t want to enter into a discussion about this article ... The Amer army should not be underestimated, of course ... But praising its "POWER" is also not right ... Moreover, they demonstrated so-so results ... And our Motherland has products that can reduce all their TECHNICAL EXCELLENCE to a deplorable minimum soldier
  24. Docent1984
    Docent1984 26 December 2016 13: 15
    +1
    “I don’t think that in the history of mankind there have been armed forces as capable, smart, strong, with such good leadership and resources as the US army today.”

    Konstantin Ksaverievich Rokossovsky turned over in his grave and frightens off people walking near the Kremlin wall with wild laughter)))
  25. murriou
    murriou 26 December 2016 13: 19
    +1
    “I don’t think that in the entire history of mankind there have been armed forces as capable, smart, strong, with such good leadership and resources as the US army today,” said US State Department spokesman John Kirby

    And they are the most beautiful and modest laughing
  26. murriou
    murriou 26 December 2016 13: 26
    +2
    In the end, they “flattened” Japan with a score of 1: 9. This was the final ratio of military casualties in the Pacific theater of operations.

    Oh, you took the American statistics at face value? lol

    But, for example, I heard that the Japanese volunteers on Iwo Jima, searching and burying the remains of their compatriots, simultaneously dug up about three times as many Americans as they were, according to official US statistics, killed and wounded together belay
  27. murriou
    murriou 26 December 2016 13: 31
    +2
    we must not forget that the United States fought not with Vietnam, but with North Vietnam on the side of the South Vietnamese government in Saigon.

    Wrong.
    In Vietnam, American troops and the pro-American puppet government fought against the Vietnamese people, especially the South Vietnamese partisans - Vietnam or Viet Cong, as they were called by the Americans, who were helped by the military of the DRV (northern Vietnam), who were helped (mainly with air defense and aviation) by the Soviet and Chinese comrades (the Chinese also helped a lot with armored vehicles).
  28. MAD_SERGANT
    MAD_SERGANT 26 December 2016 22: 56
    +1
    To be honest, something this article smacks of schizophrenia ...
  29. CYBERNINJA
    CYBERNINJA 27 December 2016 11: 01
    0
    In general, I think that Kirby was released from the asylum with a diagnosis of paranoia. That did not stop him from attaching his ass well to a warm place ...
  30. mark2
    mark2 28 December 2016 12: 07
    0
    Some readers, strategists and analysts confuse the concepts "Stronger than any other army" and "Stronger than any aggressor". And they miss the phrase "for today". I think these two concepts cover the whole meaning of what the President said.
    Let me explain.
    After the collapse of the USSR, the United States proclaimed the doctrine of a bloodless war, relying on its military-technological superiority. This is accurate nuclear-free attacks on infrastructure, and massive local bombardments, a siege of countries from the sea. In general, the US advertised a war of buttons and computers. Advertising was so successful that even the United States believed in it. And they, with the usual zeal for the United States, began to put this idea into practice. New tactics were developed, new weapons and methods of its application, and so on. As a result, guaranteed, the United States was able to win the technological war only in Yugoslavia. Which was demonstrated to the whole world. The United States, without introducing its ground forces, relying on the ongoing bombardment with precision weapons, was able to bring small Yugoslavia to its knees.
    And then all their vaunted technology ended. Expensive. Already later operations in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and now in Mosul indicate that they are forced to return to tactics of action by land units. Though small, but there is no longer any talk about the use of precision weapons alone.
    And as time shows, the superiority in military technology of the United States is not as great as they told.
    If you think logically, then the lag of Russia, China, India from the United States is insignificant. In all 4 countries there are technologies capable of striking at someone else’s territory without going beyond the borders of their state. Quickly accurate and unexpected.
    The famous phrase of President V.V. Putin emphasizes that the United States will not be able to wage war against Russia and its Allies, as it was with Yugoslavia. They will not be pulled due to reasons rested on the economic opportunities of the USA itself. In addition, Russia was able to restore the early warning system for a missile attack and even cover those areas that were not blocked even during the Soviet Union (not my conclusions, read somewhere here on this site), rearm the army, re-equip, develop new tactics wars, try out new types of weapons. Those. Russia excluded the US technological component.
    The result is the status quo when the United States wants, but cannot, and Russia would not want, but it can. Those. everything has come to the conclusion that it is necessary to introduce land units, if we talk about the war. Putin understands this, Americans know it.
    It is necessary to create land connections, train, prepare, stockpile. And this, as we understand it, cannot be secretly carried out. It is also very, very expensive. Those. contain both a huge fleet and a huge breakthrough army today and they are not able to.
    After that, many begin to focus on the possibilities of industry in Russia and the USA. According to all kinds of reports, stories and myths, it turns out that the US is much stronger industrialized. I do not deny and do not intend to argue. Question: And how much stronger are they?
    The President's phrase "Today" says that just today, the United States will not be able to inflict any serious damage to Russia with the available means. But Russia, today, relying on the available data on the enemy and its capabilities, will be able to repel this strike without any problems, but no more.
    Those. it is impossible to deliver a one-time all-destructive blow to Russia, and Russia will not be able to storm Washington. It is necessary to prepare for war more thoroughly.
    ... I emphasize again: "FOR TODAY". Tomorrow will be a new day and everything can change.
    Some in the comments to this article begin to get into the jungle of the future, talking about how Trump will revive the entire industry in the United States, and then ... That and Putin is talking about "Today" and not about "then." Until then we still have to live.
    The question arises: And how can Trump crank it all up? He, what will come and take away the means of production from China, India, Taiwan, Hong Kong? Or will it make everyone forget the technologies that they themselves sold? It’s easier for him to start all over again. So to speak, start a new scientific and technological revolution on the territory of the USA itself. But it takes time. And this is not one or two years. And the time. And everyone knows about it.
    The USSR had already encountered at one time a high-tech army. As a result, the USSR won, because it was able to more quickly and in larger numbers to replenish losses in weapons and people.
    Conclusion. At this stage, China would be guaranteed to win a global war today. Holding back the first high-tech strike, they simply crush any enemy.
  31. Jack-b
    Jack-b 28 December 2016 12: 30
    0
    US losses to the losses of Japan 1: 9)))))) and if we take the ratio of losses among civilians? 3000: 690000 = 1:230.
    No comment.