Doctor Lisa was on board the Tu-154 RF Ministry of Defense

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The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the information that had previously appeared in the media about being aboard a Tu-154 aircraft that fell near Sochi, Elizabeth Glinka, known as Doctor Lisa. It was reported that Dr. Liza could follow the Board of the Russian Defense Ministry only to Sochi and not fly to Syria. But then it became known that the plane was originally supposed to make refueling not in Sochi, but in Mozdok, and therefore Sochi, by definition, could not have been an arrival point for Elizaveta Glinka. She was going along with the Russian servicemen, artists of the Alexandrov Song and Dance Ensemble to Syria - to the province of Lattakia, to the Hmeimim airbase.
Doctor Lisa was on board the Tu-154 RF Ministry of Defense

It is known that Elizaveta Glinka was delivering medicines for a hospital in Syria.
According to some reports, Dr. Lisa was supposed to take out seriously ill children from Syria who need emergency medical care. Such assistance was ready to provide the leading Russian clinics.
Main military department publishes a revised list of crew members and passengers of the fateful flight:

The crew of the Tu-154 85572:

1. Mr. Volkov R.V.

2. Mr. Rovensky A.S.

3. p / n Petukhov A.N.

4. Mr. Mamonov A.V.

5. Art. lt Hairdressers VN

6. Mr. Tregubov V.A.

7. Art. Lt Sushkov BC

8. Art. lt Sukhanov AO

List of persons transported on the aircraft:

Military personnel:

1. g / lt Khalilov V.M.

2. rn Khasanov AB

3. rn Vaganov A.I.

4. Ivanov A.Yu.

5. Clause Kolosovsky A.V.

6. Mr. A. Dolinsky

7. pp. Negrub A.N.

8. Mr. Abrosimov S.S.

Federal civil servants:

1. Gubankov A.N.

2. Badrutdinova O.T.

International public organization "Fair Aid":

1. Glinka E.P.

Media:

1.Runkov D.A.

2. Denisov V.V.

3.Soidov A.A.

4.Luzhetsky M.V.

5.Obukhov P.K.

6.Pestov OM

7.Rzhevsky V.V.

8.Suranov A.A.

9.Tolstov E.V.

FSBU "Ensemble them. Alexandrova ":

1. Sonnikov A.V.

2. Guzhova L.A.

3. Ivashko A.N.

4. Brodsky V.A.

5. Bulochnikov E.V.

6. Golikov V.V.

7. Osipov G.L.

8. Sanin V.V.

9. Mayorov K.V.

10. Buryachenko B.B.

11. Bobovnikov D.V.

12. Bazdyrev A.K.

13. Belonozhko D.M.

14. Beschasinov D.A.

15. Vasin, MA

16. Georgiy A.T.

17.Davidenko K.A.

18. S. Deniskin

19.Zhuravlev P.V.

20.Zakirov PP

21. Ivanov M.A.

22. Ivanov A.V.

23.Kotlyar S.A.

24.Kochemasov A.S.

25.Krivtsov A.A.

26.Litvyakov D.N.

27.Mokrikov A.O.

28.Morgunov A.A.

29.Nasibulin Z.A.

30.Novokshanov Yu.M.

31.Polyakov V.V.

32.Saveliev A.V.

33.Sokolovsky A.V.

34. Tarasenko A.N.

35.Trofimov A.S.

36.Uzlovsky A.A.

37. Halimon B.JI.

38.Shtuko A.A.

39.Kryuchkov I.A.

40.Ermolin V.I.

41.Bykov C.

42.Kolobrodov K.A.

43.Korzanov OV

44.Larionov I.F.

45.Lyashenko K.I.

46.Mikhalin V.K.

47. Art. Popov V.A.

48.Razumov A.A.

49.Serov A.S.

50.Shakhov I.V.

51.Archukov A.A.

52.Gilmanova PP

53. Ignatieva N.V.

54.Klokotova M.A.

55. Korzanova E.I.

56. Pyrieva L.A.

57.Satarova V.I.

58.Trofimova D.S.

59.Khoroshova L.N.

60.Cvirinko A.I.

61.Shagun O.Yu.

62.Gurar L.I.

63.Suleymanov B.R.

64. Stolyar I.V.

Search teams and divers of the “Tsentrospas” Emergencies Ministry are sent to the crash area.
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    1. +42
      25 December 2016 11: 32
      OLD FART hi
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!
      Uncle, who needs revenge? Weather (super winter) I drove past the airport in Adler at 7 zero, zero. At first they said that the plane fell 20 minutes after take-off. That would be over Turkey already. Then about 1.5 km from the coast. Let's all be patient hi
      1. +14
        25 December 2016 11: 35
        Terrible tragedy!
        1. +30
          25 December 2016 12: 21
          The nightmare is simple! A terrible tragedy and right before the New Year. I am sorry for all the relatives of the victims!
          1. +19
            25 December 2016 12: 55
            Yeah, in the morning in shock, everyone has eternal memory and deep condolences to relatives.
            1. Arh
              +19
              25 December 2016 13: 12
              How I feel sorry for them, Alexandrov choir !!! , And most of all I feel sorry for HER, Doctor Lisa !!! Sadly ...
              1. +6
                25 December 2016 15: 49
                How shitty.

                ----------------------------------------
                I do not believe that this is just an accident.
                Too everything goes to the topic

                Trying to make us hit some country to blame the aggressor and break the situation

                Too often we have MO planes crashing down, recently in the north I had to sit down, thank God people survived



                1. +3
                  25 December 2016 22: 04
                  Anthem "Polite People". Words - Anton Gubankov (deceased). Soloist - Evgeny Bulochnikov (deceased) Performed by the Ensemble. Alexandrova

                  1. +2
                    26 December 2016 05: 05
                    Killed such a star flight. Young, beautiful, talented, patriots of our country, diamonds of the country of Russia.

                    Dr. Lisa

                    The poison of heavenly whim ...
                    Forgive us, Dr. Lisa.
                    Only life is stronger than metal
                    Your case is not lost!
                    Forever now you are with us
                    You are salvation and memory.
                    You are that spark from which
                    People light the stars
                    We served as a support
                    When choking pain and tears.
                    Forgive me for being with us
                    Our conscience was measured ...
                    You are salvation and memory
                    If the heart has not cooled.
                    We will live and believe
                    Keeping you a landmark ...
                    Peter, bending down, opened the door,
                    Before the Holy of the human world ....
                    25.12.2016
                    from internet
              2. +1
                25 December 2016 18: 03
                Quote: Arh
                Sadly ...


                But our liberos.v.o.lo.och.e. has a different opinion:

                And what kind of Sabbath and glee are happening on UA-portals .... And we still consider them brothers ...:
                1. +8
                  25 December 2016 18: 46
                  These are the enemies. Why is it strange that they rejoice in the deaths of our citizens? It is not worth responding to them, but remembering will not hurt.
                  1. +8
                    25 December 2016 19: 15
                    These are the enemies. Why is it strange that they rejoice in the deaths of our citizens? It is not worth responding to them, but remembering will not hurt.


                  2. +3
                    25 December 2016 20: 51
                    Quote: g1v2
                    These are the enemies. Why is it strange that they rejoice in the deaths of our citizens? It is not worth responding to them, but remembering will not hurt.

                    We do not forget them! The earth is round!
                2. 0
                  25 December 2016 19: 29
                  Quote: Lelek
                  But our liberos.v.o.lo.och.e. has a different opinion:

                  recalling the first war in Chechnya, more precisely, its coverage by NTVshnikami, I, perhaps, will agree with Bozhena (although I’ve heard about it for the first time).
                  Earth down dead.
                  1. +1
                    26 December 2016 12: 06
                    Quote: veteran66
                    perhaps I agree with God


                    Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. You can treat NTV as you like, but the death of people is a tragedy, and this professional girl rejoices at the death of NTV, and not the "blunders" of the NTV company. Think with your head, dear. fool
                    1. 0
                      26 December 2016 15: 50
                      Quote: Lelek
                      death of NTVshnikov, and not "blunders" of the NTV company.

                      by NTVshnikami, she means all NTV, those correspondents are not familiar to her at all. As for NTV and the war in Chechnya, there were not blunders, but purposeful anti-Russian propaganda. And this is not only my opinion, more knowledgeable than me, people also noted this. For some reason, she is not happy with the deaths of everyone else, but, on the contrary, regrets. You, apparently, think with your head, but above your head.
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              3. +5
                25 December 2016 19: 07
                Quote: Arh
                And most of all I feel sorry for HER, Dr. Lisa

                "-The death of the best is outlined
                And pulls one at a time, - "... V.S. Vysotsky
                The eternal memory of those killed in a plane crash.
              4. 0
                25 December 2016 19: 59
                It is a pity for ALL people.
                On the methods of forming the leaders of the fifth column
                State-patriotic media and analysts forge new leaders of the fifth column.

                Yesterday, the ISEPI Foundation presented the second issue of the Rating-2016 of promising public politicians with an eye to the 2016 State Duma elections. The study assesses the activity / efficiency of public public and political figures who are considered promising politicians to participate in elections to the State Duma by constituency or whose authority can have a decisive influence on the performance of political parties.
                http://frallik.livejournal.com/884704.html
                Include brains, not ears.
              5. +1
                25 December 2016 22: 21
                After today's catastrophe 33-year-old !!! Tu-154B-2 (not even M) you need to order Tu-204 and Superjets. At least the planes of the 2000s that were built from storage were bought, than to ruin people on such junk
          2. +2
            25 December 2016 13: 20
            Cho you with your condolences croak! -Nothing is known yet!
    2. +37
      25 December 2016 12: 20
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!

      Vitali, even if he would now stop waving a saber, in the name of the memory of the victims a terrible tragedy. Sorry. If Dr. Lisa was there, who will now help the children of Donbass, Syria, etc. as she helped. Awful.
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      2. +2
        25 December 2016 18: 49
        Quote: vovanpain
        Vitali, if only now he would stop stopping to wave his saber,

        That is yes. As they say about such expressions, do not wave nonsense ...
    3. +18
      25 December 2016 12: 22
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men.

      Vitala, are you again "stale" in the morning?
      What revenge? Well, if only Allah. But even Muslims claim that God is one ...
      Probably all the same fuel ... counterfeit. Otherwise, why would a plane with 3 dvigunami fall into the sea?
      Quote: katalonec2014
      Terrible tragedy!

      I agree with you, colleague ...
      The loss is irreplaceable and ridiculous ... They would all live and live ...
      Bright memory to those who have left us.
      1. +3
        25 December 2016 12: 42
        crash text translation on RT
        https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/344729-samo
        let-minoborony-propal-s-radarov
        12:17
        IAC will not be involved in the crash investigation.

        “The defense department itself is investigating the causes of the crash of military aircraft, including those carrying passengers and cargo, but belonging to the Ministry of Defense, in this case the Ministry of Defense will also investigate,” the Russian defense department said.
        =====
        12:25
        The Ministry of Defense specified that 93 people were on board the aircraft.
        ======
        12:40
        The military prosecutor’s office, together with the commission of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, began an audit of the preparation of the Tu-154 flight.
        1. +11
          25 December 2016 12: 45
          Elizabeth Glinka December 8 at the presentation of awards in the Kremlin
          with 4: 40
          something right up to tears sad
        2. +5
          25 December 2016 14: 36
          Is there really a rat that got money .. Oh, it's not easy!
      2. +15
        25 December 2016 13: 40
        Guys, this is a big tragedy. And you don’t have to dog each other.
        No one now has reliable information. Some versions. But it is alarming that no message was received from the crew.
        However, "black boxes" may not be found. Therefore, I think that we will receive the first reliable information not from the commission to investigate this tragedy, but from the FSB with their agent network.
        Now, let's just honor the memory of the dead.
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      4. 0
        25 December 2016 16: 20
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Probably all the same fuel ... counterfeit. Otherwise, why would a plane with 3 dvigunami fall into the sea?

        In this version, from the first minute and stick ...
    4. +16
      25 December 2016 12: 59
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!

      The main thing is the first to blow into a puddle, or what? Your head appointment is probably like that of Klitschko, I’m knocking outside and I also eat in it.
      1. +2
        25 December 2016 18: 51
        Quote: Fitter65
        The main thing is the first. To blow into a puddle so what? Your head appointment is probably like that of Klitschko, I’m knocking outside and I also eat in it.


        Sorry lane .. deleted, and so everything is true
    5. +5
      25 December 2016 13: 28
      Prior to the official conclusion of the commission, one should refrain from harsh assessments, especially to non-specialists.
      Given the circumstances of this serious accident and the available information, we can say that there is a high probability of overload and misalignment of the aircraft at Adler Airport. See the accident in which almost the entire command of the Pacific Fleet perished (the airfield of Pushkin on February 7, 1981.).
      Deep condolences to the families of the victims.
    6. +11
      25 December 2016 13: 34
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!

      How did you get your "smart" comments. Have you already investigated everything and made conclusions, "great specialist" in plane crashes? You sit here for XNUMX hours and wait for news to be the first to insert your next stupidity and earn asterisks. First turn on your brains, let you be the second or third commentator.
    7. 0
      25 December 2016 13: 39
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!

      Oh come on ... This sometimes happens with airplanes. Just a tragedy, an accident. And the commission will tell us about the reasons soon.
    8. +5
      25 December 2016 13: 56
      God takes the best ,,,
      1. +4
        25 December 2016 18: 53
        Quote: Don Karleone
        God takes the best ,,,

        So they are already angels ......
    9. +11
      25 December 2016 14: 15
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!

      Officially, they will most likely say that it is either a plane or pilots. Recognize that this is our act of fear; it will be necessary to prepare an answer, but it’s easier to give the yapons out to the islands for general use. Under the USSR, such idiocy could never have occurred. I do not believe that something is unlikely with the plane, with a mistake in piloting in general nonsense!
      I do not want to believe in the act of terrorism, but already a lot of strong and necessary people died to believe in heresy about not ter. act!
      1. +8
        25 December 2016 14: 30
        Where is the answer to the terrorists, and where are the islands ???? The main thing is to scream, wait a little weakly?
      2. +4
        25 December 2016 16: 05
        The attack on the Sinai with the A-321 - our fears were to give an answer, the terrorist attack in Rostov with Fly Dubai - our fears again. Instead of recognizing the terrorist attack that most likely took place after taking off from Dubai. scattered on the strip in Rostov the rubbish of metal remains from the An-24RV instead of Bong 737-800. Probably thought: yes, these suckers still do not understand anything. But those who need it understood that something is unclean and hide the truth and the true causes of the crash from people. And with the Tu-154 is likely to be the same.
        1. +11
          25 December 2016 16: 27
          Quote: Green Trumpet
          The attack on the Sinai with the A-321 - our fears were to give an answer, the terrorist attack in Rostov with Fly Dubai - our fears again.

          What are yours, yours seems not to be here.
          Quote: Green Trumpet
          the attack in Rostov with Fly Dubai - again we were afraid. Instead of recognizing the terrorist attack that most likely took place after taking off from Dubai. scattered on the strip in Rostov the rubbish of metal remains from the An-24RV instead of Bong 737-800.

          Oh god well fool fool fool This is a miracle iksperd, I join my colleague
          Quote: just explo
          Yes, how many damned trolls have you climbed today?

          Quote: Green Trumpet
          But those who need it understood that something is unclean and hide the truth and the true causes of the crash from people. And with the Tu-154 is likely to be the same.

          Well, yes, yes, yes, the superksperd immediately understood everything. Although they would have been silent for three days, there were no more words. negative
          1. +1
            26 December 2016 01: 02
            Vovan I just expressed my opinion. Or are you for an opinion that does not coincide with yours on this site are ready to gobble up each other ..? Reading some comments on the campaign, it is.
        2. +2
          25 December 2016 17: 28
          Quote: Green Trumpet
          attack in Rostov with Fly Dubai

          fool fool fool request
          That night in Rostov a strong southwest wind blew. Several aircraft commanders decided to leave for other airports. The same dispatchers proposed to make the pilot of flight 981, but he preferred to try to land in the Don capital. The first approach was unsuccessful. Before deciding on the second, the Boeing circled the city for almost two hours. Another attempt to land the plane was fatal. Board fell a hundred meters from the runway.
      3. +3
        25 December 2016 19: 16
        Quote: Oleg147741
        I do not believe that something is unlikely with the plane, with a mistake in piloting in general nonsense!

        The plane is 33 years old!
        Quote: Oleg147741
        I do not want to believe in the act of terrorism, but so many strong and necessary people died

        The plane should be refueling in Mozdok, but due to weather conditions, the refueling was moved to Sochi. Main versions: tech. airplane malfunction, bird falling into the air intake or pilot error.
        1. +3
          25 December 2016 19: 30
          Which bird? THREE engines, the most experienced pilot !!!
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            1. 0
              25 December 2016 20: 32
              Yes, everything is extremely clear and understandable, although someone still does not "fit".
        2. +4
          25 December 2016 19: 40
          Quote: kapitan92
          Main versions: tech. airplane malfunction, bird falling into the air intake or pilot error.

          Three birds at once in three engines and so big that they even didn’t have time to tell by radio!
          1. +3
            25 December 2016 19: 54
            Quote: Oleg147741
            Quote: kapitan92
            Main versions: tech. airplane malfunction, bird falling into the air intake or pilot error.

            Three birds at once in three engines and so big that they even didn’t have time to tell by radio!

            I repeat for the osssslivno wise. This is one of the versions that is considered by the commission! It does not depend on the size of the bird. In take-off mode, one of the three engines exits enough for the carcass to go into a tailspin or blockage.
            "..... In 2013, in Sochi, scientists recorded 83 species of birds, in 2014 - 140, and in 2015 - 179. At the same time, about 2 thousand birds remain in the ornithological park for wintering," Interfax quotes the deputy director on scientific work of the State Budgetary Institution "Natural Ornithological Park" Lev Shagarov. ".....
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      4. 0
        26 December 2016 19: 14
        Under the USSR, such idiocy in the head
        Under the USSR, these islands were going to give away just like that. Without any sharing, and no problem. We considered this a normal negotiation practice. Good hysteria.
        People have perished. Our people. It hurts ... We need to get together. Our land needs our protection more than ever. It hurts anyway ...
    10. +8
      25 December 2016 14: 17
      Yes, how many damned trolls have you climbed today?
    11. +11
      25 December 2016 14: 59
      Lord, what a terrible tragedy, eternal memory and kingdom of heaven for the lost. crying
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        1. +2
          25 December 2016 16: 26
          Quote: SPACE
          SPACE Today, 15:44 ↑
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          to thank "for the crash the authorities need,
          It would be better if they were silent ...
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          .y all the same de.bil ...
          All the same, you too.
          Reply

          what am I wrong? -by the shelves ...
        2. +1
          25 December 2016 19: 17
          Quote: SPACE
          All the same, you too.


          154 is both morally and constructively outdated, but costs 20 lem yu cheaper than 204; therefore, it was MO riveted until 2009, and for your information, passenger companies are forbidden to use it if it’s interesting to go online,
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    13. +2
      25 December 2016 17: 22
      Video with a strange "flash" in the sky during the crash of Tu-154 near Sochi
      1. +4
        25 December 2016 21: 30
        Quote: RUS96
        Video with a strange "flash" in the sky during the crash of Tu-154 near Sochi

        Yes, now such nonsense will begin, every "video-owner" with such videos will profit from the bones, and those "flashes" are very similar to the flashlights that stand on boats and have nothing to do with the catastrophe, but we always had enough freaks.
    14. SSR
      +1
      25 December 2016 20: 29
      Quote: STARPER
      This is the revenge of all Russia men ... They are waiting for a reaction!

      you are really sick ...... you as a liberalist provocateur.
      Ya Alexandrov’s choir is really tryndets like ....... but ahead of time, why rush with slogans?
  2. +34
    25 December 2016 11: 27
    He was a bright man. The other day, she said that she was flying to Aleppo to help children.
    12.07.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX - “The main thing for me now is to help the children of Donbass, so I’m not going to occupy any position until the end of the war.
    I will remain your doctor until the end of hostilities and until the moment when free humanitarian corridors are opened and the children are fully provided with the assistance they need.
    I am very touched by the trust, but this is not for me, ”Glinka said in an interview with the DAN correspondent, answering the question whether she agrees to take the post of the Commissioner for Children's Rights under the President of the Russian Federation http: //rusvesna.su/news/1468312482
    1. +52
      25 December 2016 11: 58
      The best ones leave as always ... Song and Dance Ensemble of the Russian Army named after A. Alexandrov - the best singers and musicians of the country! And what a repertoire! Our Russian and military songs, not like jumping around the stage. Bilans are different! Let's go to the New Year to support our military in Syria. It’s hard to imagine in their place Kirkorov with Baskov, Pugachev and Leontiev ... What Syria, they need to torture us again on TV again in the New Year! Just usurped TV channels! As far as I can remember, the New Year is so on TV, these are these ... Another hundred years will probably be there on TV.
      Sorry for the musicians. This is a big loss for the country.
      1. +16
        25 December 2016 12: 21
        In fairness, I would say that in vain you are so on Leontyev. He always kept aloof from scandals, and at the same time he took an active part in programs dedicated to the defenders of the Fatherland.

        Well, not that news ..
        1. +5
          25 December 2016 13: 01
          Quote: Voyager
          in vain are you on Leontief so

          Quote: Voyager
          actively participated in programs dedicated to the defenders of the Fatherland.

          He is one of these ... like Boris Moiseev! What defenders of the fatherland of them! They have different values. Looking at this blue and youth becomes the same!
          1. +9
            25 December 2016 13: 45
            I don't like the stage image - your right, although I don't see anything criminal, as well as the connection with Moiseev. But what do you know about Leontiev? I am not enough: unlike other "artists", this individual does not have the habit of demonstrating his personal life, views, etc. and is not interesting. Not a fan and not a fan, but I do not like it when worthy people are judged by one size fits all. He has many merits and awards, as well as concert programs for the military. And what have you done to judge from scratch? Well, unless you propose to put other people in the place of the victims ... I agree with the conclusion below.
            1. +4
              25 December 2016 14: 30
              Quote: Voyager
              Well, unless you propose to put other people in the place of the dead ... I agree with the conclusion below.

              The Lord is with you where did I suggest they put them in the place of the dead ?? I just answered the provocative question that I would not worry about the blue! That's all! This is a certain Protoss in his question offered to change their places! Sorry to hurt you.
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        2. +2
          25 December 2016 15: 25
          Quote: Voyager
          In fairness, I would say that in vain you are so on Leontyev.

          I support. Leontiev is superfluous there
      2. +3
        25 December 2016 12: 29
        would it be easier for you if there were pop stars in their place?
        1. +6
          25 December 2016 12: 58
          Quote: protoss
          would it be easier for you if there were pop stars in their place?

          For a lot! Estrada would become cleaner. Others would come, not spoiled.
          1. +11
            25 December 2016 13: 08
            with such morality you would be in the igil, it seems to me there you would find like-minded people
            1. +6
              25 December 2016 14: 19
              Quote: protoss
              with such morality you would be in the igil, it seems to me there you would find like-minded people

              Quote: Voyager
              I do not like when worthy people are judged on the same level with everyone

              Are you one of these, too? Sorry to hurt! Every sandpiper praises its swamp. And you worry about them! But don’t do me a monster, send me to ISIS! I didn’t wish them any harm, but I wouldn’t worry if something happened.
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      3. +7
        25 December 2016 14: 19
        Quote: Stas157
        It’s hard to imagine in their place Kirkorov with Baskov, Pugachev ...

        I caught myself on the bad idea that apart from malice, I would not have experienced anything if these scum (how many talented people they cut their wings) died! These are parasites that fatten and feast during the plague. There is no respect for them, only contempt.
      4. +2
        25 December 2016 16: 29
        Quote: Stas157
        Sorry for the musicians. This is a big loss for the country.

        The disproportionate loss, the guilty, and I think - there was something wrong with the fuel - must be severely punished !!!
        Deep condolences to those close to us, and to each of us - for this is our common and irreparable loss !!!
  3. +17
    25 December 2016 11: 30
    There are no words. So many souls in one moment. crying
  4. +32
    25 December 2016 11: 32
    Let’s guys only without stupid statements.
    Just honor the dead.
    Who and what is to blame for later.
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        1. +6
          25 December 2016 14: 37
          These are not liberalists, these are ordinary State Department mercenaries — a component of the weapons of hybrid wars, a powerful attack is underway in Russia, in all directions.
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            1. +1
              25 December 2016 21: 22
              Quote: Koshak
              Quote: Svetlana
              Why are you so angry with those who see the guilty as officials

              Light, turn on the brain. PEOPLE died, and you are rubbing us about officials here. Not a word about sympathy. Are you trying to balamamute people under this tragedy?

              Kitty, my brains, like any normal person, never turn off. If you have a button, then you are not a person, but a robot. For all of us, this tragedy that does not fit in our heads causes shock. I can express my condolences only in my soul, since it’s unlikely that I should be able to sit on them and read them on the Internet, but I don’t have the opportunity to express them personally. The people are not du.r.a.k., in your opinion, and it is not so easy to stir him up, even under such a tragedy. Most, I think, they themselves understand perfectly well that there is no need to play the trick, it’s enough just to live in our country and not be an oligarch. The main thing in any tragedy is to quickly sort out its causes and find the perpetrators, any incident has a name and surname, and an incident of this magnitude also. It is easiest to just sympathize, but this is not enough for loved ones. And for all of us too. What happened - this is one way or another - is someone else's crime, and criminals are sought after in hot pursuit. And the duty of the living to avenge those who perished. And you continue to whine your funeral whining, Kitty. I continue to think of dead people as living. The corpses of all 92 people have not yet been found, only 11 have been found, it is clear that this is not simple and not always real, but still.
          2. +7
            25 December 2016 20: 06
            Quote: Svetlana
            Guys, what are you talking about, what liberals, where did you see them here? Here everyone expresses his opinion.

            Dear Svetlana, all the same, decent people, whoever they were and wherever they were, after such a tragedy, express sympathy and condolences, people died. This is a Romanian body, expresses someone's opinion, it is not the first time, this body was previously banned for lying and juggling facts, more than once, now it jumps for joy, together with the "bros" Svidomo, I will not post their "creativity", but guess yourself or go to ukrosayty, normal and adequate Ukrainians also express a lot sympathy and bring candles and flowers to our embassy. The cause of the disaster will be established, and about the officials and planes we will talk in another topic, now we will remember the victims. Respectfully Svetlana. hi
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      3. +4
        25 December 2016 14: 21
        Quote: Pronow
        Shuvalov and Sechin continued to fly on the brand new Bombardier.

        "Effective managers" who make an unbearable contribution to the collapse and plundering of the country, therefore, such exorbitant salaries from foreign owners to their khaliyam.
        But this is not right now. Sorry for the truly Human Man!
      4. +8
        25 December 2016 14: 49
        Quote: Pronow
        Do not forget that the military and journalists flew to Syria on an old Tu-154 so that Shuvalov and Sechin continued to fly on the brand new Bombardier.

        Decent people are now expressing condolences, and those who instead of conscience and heart, purse such nasty comments post here. An unscrupulous monster. There is no shame or conscience.
      5. +1
        25 December 2016 15: 18
        Quote: Pronow
        Do not forget that the military and journalists flew to Syria on an old Tu-154 so that Shuvalov and Sechin continued to fly on the brand new Bombardier.

        Why old? The last Tu-154 m, was built in the 14th year, by order of the Moscow Region. So that maybe a new one was.
        1. +1
          25 December 2016 17: 35
          Quote: Observer 33
          So that maybe a new one was.

          Not new, this car is 33 years old.
  5. +33
    25 December 2016 11: 35
    Just do not need to breed srach, so the resource cannot be distinguished from the censor !!! I express my condolences purely on a human being !!!
    1. +8
      25 December 2016 12: 48
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Just do not need to breed srach, so the resource cannot be distinguished from the censor !!! I express my condolences purely on a human being !!!

      At least one person expressed a sound idea. People died and then they begin to water people in no way related to the tragedy (just from personal dislikes). As for VO, sometimes when reading comments I begin to doubt VO I or by mistake on the Echo, or maybe the Rain fell.
      1. +1
        25 December 2016 13: 24
        and who told you that they died?
        1. +5
          25 December 2016 14: 17
          Quote: Indiffeent
          and who told you that they died?

          Yeah. "Failed" into the past. Less need to read NOT science fiction.
          1. +1
            25 December 2016 16: 43
            off.-comments-statements were? -No! -Nefig then bury earlier
      2. +1
        25 December 2016 14: 23
        Quote: Homo
        IN I or by mistake on the Echo, or maybe the rain hit.

        Here everyone expresses what they consider necessary, and with their wishes somewhere else;
        1. +4
          25 December 2016 15: 13
          Quote: Oleg147741
          Here everyone expresses what they consider necessary, and with their wishes somewhere else;

          I am not against expressing my thoughts. I wrote a little about something else. The site from a military-patriotic one turned into a liberal-tolerant one, not much different from Rain and Echo!
          PS Very often, commentators (in particular my statements) do not understand what is written, it seems that a lot of young people are uneducated who need to chew everything and put it in their mouth (and they will not always swallow it). hi
          1. 0
            25 December 2016 19: 39
            I totally agree with you, I switched to "courage" myself, I rarely came here No.
          2. 0
            25 December 2016 19: 47
            Quote: Homo
            I am not against expressing my thoughts. I wrote a little about something else. The site from a military-patriotic one turned into a liberal-tolerant one, not much different from Rain and Echo!

            Yes, I think that in this case, people throw out emotions. Already boiled at all!
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      1. +2
        25 December 2016 16: 00
        And why should it differ greatly from the censor when a good half of commentators are the same hired Ukrainians, -

        I suspect you, you are getting an order in an underground regional committee
  6. +5
    25 December 2016 11: 39
    The terrible thing was confirmed. I have no words.
  7. +13
    25 December 2016 11: 40
    Lord Rest their souls in peace. Kingdom of heaven. When will this leap year end ?!
    1. +4
      25 December 2016 11: 52
      A terrible event on the eve of the New Year.
      It is a pity to all untimely departed.
      These losses should not have been.
    2. +6
      25 December 2016 12: 09
      Lord Rest their souls in peace. Kingdom of heaven. When will this leap year end ?!

      there is a feeling that this year is in a hurry in recent days to recoup to the maximum ... only in the last week there are so many tragedies!
      1. +2
        25 December 2016 12: 51
        Quote: Yuyuka
        ... a feeling that this year is in a hurry in recent days to get the most out of it ...

        On whom to win back and for what? Little thought, it turns out your Russia is to blame for all the problems on Earth. No.
        1. +3
          25 December 2016 13: 58
          On whom to win back and for what? Little thought, it turns out your Russia is to blame for all the problems on Earth.

          Rave I don’t even want to object ... just think first before making conclusions ... hi
        2. +3
          25 December 2016 15: 07
          Homo, my head is really bad, as I see it.
          A terrible tragedy. Condolences to all the relatives who died in this disaster. Hang on people. And my moral freaks and idiots are my wish: keep all your accusations to yourself. Now just be silent and at least make an attempt to express sympathy for families left without relatives. The reason will be voiced by competent people. Later...
  8. +4
    25 December 2016 11: 41
    Condolences to all relatives. A terrible tragedy! They didn’t manage to put them on water, they left abruptly with a turn.
    1. avt
      +6
      25 December 2016 12: 08
      Quote: Butt
      Condolences to all relatives. A terrible tragedy!

      request The trouble and nothing more to say, only
      Quote: Alekseir162
      Remember them, Lord, in Your Kingdom.

      Amen.
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  10. +16
    25 December 2016 11: 53
    Remember them, Lord, in Your Kingdom.
  11. +5
    25 December 2016 11: 54
    Most likely a terrorist attack will be determined. But is it easier from losses from this? (
  12. HAM
    +15
    25 December 2016 11: 54
    Why don't good people live long !!?
    Too bad Dr. Lisa,
    sincerely sorry for all the dead people ..
    1. +2
      25 December 2016 14: 26
      Quote: HAM
      Why don't good people live long !!?

      against the background of the good, the bad ones are very striking!
      1. HAM
        +4
        25 December 2016 15: 14
        Oleg, you are right, all the bastard like a fool "Bozena Rynska" went into hysterical joy.
        People who are nothing of themselves are trying to denigrate those who give their lives for others ...
        1. +3
          25 December 2016 20: 25
          Oleg, you are right, all the bastard like a fool "Bozena Rynska" went into hysterical joy.
          People who are nothing of themselves are trying to denigrate those who give their lives for others ...


          this fool, as you said, turns out to be a columnist (moronic word) of the Izvestia newspaper .... she must be lucky to have mastered two ancient professions ...
  13. +4
    25 December 2016 11: 58
    they rest in peace ...
  14. +7
    25 December 2016 11: 59
    Sad Condolences! I grieve!
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  16. +6
    25 December 2016 12: 03
    Hard at heart, the best go. condolences to family and friends. Rest in peace.
  17. +1
    25 December 2016 12: 07
    34 years for an airplane, of course it’s not a limit, it’s been discontinued for a long time, parts where and what are the secret behind seven seals, according to one version fell apart in the air. Sorry for the people.
    1. +2
      25 December 2016 14: 36
      Out of production in 2013. In your opinion is it very long ago ???
      1. +5
        25 December 2016 15: 33
        Very sorry for the people, sincerely condolences.
        But the thought is one that is totally wrong in our kingdom (((
        1. +5
          25 December 2016 18: 28
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          Very sorry for the people, sincerely condolences.
          But the thought is one that is totally wrong in our kingdom (((

          And this is a very true thought, unlike the thoughts of those who blame liberalism for everything. Do not even dare to think bad about a government in which everyone bathes in luxury, while the people think a penny, and someone pays their lives in order to alleviate at least somehow the situation of those who are at war.
      2. +2
        25 December 2016 17: 00
        Out of production in 2013. In your opinion is it very long ago ???


        Sorry, you don’t tell me how many of them were released from the beginning of the 90s to 2013, then it is that such an amount can not be taken into account.
  18. +9
    25 December 2016 12: 08
    It's time to deal with the trash that the air transport of the aerospace forces is equipped with. An-26, An-12, Tu-134, Tu-154, Il-76 have a life of operation, as many people do not live. It’s not even rubbish, it’s scrap metal. Flying on these aircraft is a manifestation of mass heroism. Our transport aviation pilots are heroes (in captivity). But passengers also suffer.
    1. +10
      25 December 2016 12: 51
      Quote: SergeyZel
      An-26, An-12, Tu-134, Tu-154, Il-76 have terms of operation, as many people do not live

      You did not include the recently crashed IL-18 VKS of the Russian Federation in Yakutia, which was once the most reliable aircraft in the USSR.
      Quote: SergeyZel
      It's time to deal with the trash that the air transport of the aerospace forces is equipped with.

      Those who can and should deal with this rubbish fly on other planes from the special squadron "Russia" - there the equipment and the operating life are different ...
      Quote: SergeyZel
      Flying on these aircraft is a manifestation of mass heroism.

      Unfortunately, little is changed in this regard - it is our long tradition to create difficulties for ourselves, heroically overcome them and be proud of it ...
      Infinitely sorry for the people ...
      1. +5
        25 December 2016 13: 22
        Quote: ranger
        You did not include the recently crashed IL-18 VKS of the Russian Federation in Yakutia, which was once the most reliable aircraft in the USSR.
        ... infinitely sorry for the people ...

        The IL-18 literally just proved that it is the most reliable aircraft ...

        [The plane of the Ministry of Defense delivered victims of the Il-18 accident from Yakutia to Moscow, where they will continue treatment, the RIA Novosti officer on duty at the Yakut Republican Center for Disaster Medicine ..

        https://ria.ru/incidents/20161222/1484348380.html

        In essence, nothing happened to say ...
        remembered by family ...
        especially Elizaveta Petrovna ...
        This is a loss ...
        Her prophetic words in the Kremlin ...

        It’s too early to draw conclusions, but ... some strange accident ...
      2. 0
        25 December 2016 22: 35
        Quote: ranger
        You did not include the recently crashed IL-18 VKS of the Russian Federation in Yakutia, which was once the most reliable aircraft in the USSR.

        IL-18 is still a reliable aircraft. The example with Yakutia has nothing to do with low reliability, but on the contrary. I wonder what would have happened to any "Airbus" in those weather conditions.
    2. +6
      25 December 2016 12: 55
      But this is true. It's time to restore a 100% domestic fleet. The country was waiting for its new aircraft. And let it be good they will be upgraded from the Union more developments, but ours are new.
      1. +7
        25 December 2016 13: 34
        it is necessary and who will construct it? -where to build it and who to build? we have fighter jets assembled on the knee !!! (no conveyor lines) and who will design the top managers? All right now, everything else flies out of factories 90 percent is still being developed under the USSR! the same beauty! —that I’m waiting for our new planes I can’t sleep already — don’t shit delirium — nobody will restore anything to you because if you wanted to do it already, how many conversations didn’t you remember? smart people on a clever man and a cho !!! ?????? - how they flew on Boeing and so they fly ... screaming damn loool !!!
    3. +5
      25 December 2016 13: 01
      Quote: SergeyZel
      It's time to deal with the trash that the air transport of the aerospace forces is equipped with. An-26, An-12, Tu-134, Tu-154, Il-76 have a life of operation, as many people do not live.

      And without any problems, build 100500 new ones in a month or spit out money (from a personal stash) to buy Boeing and all will be happy. You can neither one nor the other, then do not give empty advice.
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 15: 30
        I can not spit, nothing. I suggest collecting SMSkami, as for the treatment of children. Arranged !?
        1. +1
          25 December 2016 23: 50
          Quote: SergeyZel
          I can not spit, nothing. I suggest collecting SMSkami, as for the treatment of children. Arranged !?

          A plane cannot be built from banknotes. We need factories and specialists.
    4. +2
      25 December 2016 14: 29
      Quote: SergeyZel
      It's time to deal with the trash that the air transport of the aerospace forces is equipped with. An-26, An-12, Tu-134, Tu-154, Il-76 have a service life,

      An omniscient expert? Boeing and Airbuses in some airlines have a longer life. Throwing everything away is easy, but replacing it with what?
      1. +2
        25 December 2016 15: 37
        I pay taxes and get a salary that you can’t get around. Therefore, I believe that those who are charged with this should be engaged in equipping the BTA VKS with new aircraft. And the ensemble could be sent to Boeing or Airbus without refueling in Sochi.
      2. +7
        25 December 2016 15: 52
        I’ll just add: “And it’s stupid when they talk about the old plane, about“ it’s already been banned. ” the situation cannot be compared with the Boeing or Airbus. The plane does not have "old age", it has airworthiness - it is either fit to fly or not. In the USA, there are Douglases of 50-60 years flying.
        Read more at http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22888670
        .html
  19. +7
    25 December 2016 12: 09

    God rest the souls of the newly introduced!
    1. +2
      25 December 2016 12: 57
      92 word candles then be silent.
    2. +6
      25 December 2016 13: 26


      Everlasting memory!!!
  20. +3
    25 December 2016 12: 16
    This is a disaster ...
    So many wonderful people ...
    Is this someone's negligence?
    1. +3
      25 December 2016 12: 45
      Blessed memory of the dead!

    2. 0
      25 December 2016 13: 35
      No, it's whose rocket ..
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 14: 12
        Is this a joke?
        Is it appropriate?
        After all, people died, not just people, but servicemen!
    3. +1
      25 December 2016 14: 30
      Quote: Sergey F
      This is a disaster ...

      This is really a disaster! Briefly and capaciously, without further ado!
  21. +3
    25 December 2016 12: 18
    Awful !!! So many good people died due to some technical malfunction.
    As, I think, the Bandera bastards rejoice. And their father Obama with Clinton.
    Deep sympathy for relatives.
  22. +2
    25 December 2016 12: 20
    My condolences ... A terrible disaster, instant ... the crew did not even have time to report ...
    1. +10
      25 December 2016 12: 56
      This leads to terrible suspicions.
  23. +7
    25 December 2016 12: 20
    When such tragedies happen, you understand how fragile a human life is ... And how much effort is expended in spoiling it for oneself and others for different trifles! A blessed memory to all those who died ... And we all would like to wish to take care of those who are nearby, talk more with those you love, who are dear ... you just don’t have time ...
  24. +1
    25 December 2016 12: 28
    33 years and 6689 hours of flight is the life of a Russian Tu-154 plane that crashed over the Black Sea, heading from Russia to Syria ... INFO.from the media
    1. +10
      25 December 2016 13: 16
      For comparison, for those who suspect significant wear and tear on the aircraft, for so many hours in civil aviation the aircraft flies in less than two years. Therefore, an airplane with such a raid that recently underwent its first major overhaul cannot be considered worn out.
      1. +5
        25 December 2016 14: 32
        Quote: Cook
        Therefore, an airplane with such a raid that recently underwent its first major overhaul cannot be considered worn out.

        This is the main thing that suggests the ter.act!
      2. +1
        25 December 2016 17: 49
        Quote: Cook
        For comparison, for those who suspect significant wear and tear on the aircraft, for so many hours in civil aviation the aircraft flies in less than two years. Therefore, an airplane with such a raid that recently underwent its first major overhaul cannot be considered worn out.

        The Tu-154 aircraft of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which crashed on Sunday morning over the Black Sea, has undergone three major overhauls during its operation. This was reported by the press service of the Russian Machines corporation, RIA Novosti reports.
  25. +3
    25 December 2016 12: 36
    What grief to all of us ...
  26. +1
    25 December 2016 12: 37
    it’s scary to imagine that their relatives now feel
    on TV they say that maybe this is a terrorist attack? What do you think could be like planting an Airbus A-321 bomb on an airplane?
  27. 0
    25 December 2016 12: 37
    Maybe the Ukrainians shot down the plane?
    1. 0
      25 December 2016 12: 39
      no, the distance to the territory of Ukraine is very large, this is the airspace of Russia, they’re not there
    2. 0
      25 December 2016 23: 54
      Quote: Ilja2016
      Maybe the Ukrainians shot down the plane?

      But are Ukrainians already in Sochi or Tuapse housed with their air defense systems? Look at the map. Then drag Georgia here - closer to it.
  28. +1
    25 December 2016 12: 39
    Sparking condolences to family and friends !!!
  29. +8
    25 December 2016 12: 40
    Just awful.
    Airplanes, helicopters fall like autumn foliage. Our people are dying. Relatives lose loved ones: parents, children, grandchildren. Children are left orphans ....
    Condolences to everyone whose loved one died on this plane.
    1. +6
      25 December 2016 14: 35
      Quote: Sovetskiy
      Airplanes, helicopters fall like autumn foliage.

      Don’t lament, in car accidents, perniciously more die, it’s just not covered, hundreds of thousands die from cigarettes, alcohol, drugs. It is not a matter of airplanes and their catastrophes, but the matter is unhealthy to this attitude.
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 14: 48
        Quote: Oleg147741
        It is not a matter of airplanes and their catastrophes, but the matter is unhealthy to this attitude.

        You either did not read the comments or intentionally try to breed srach on the tragedy of people. There was a request not to start now about who could be to blame.
  30. +3
    25 December 2016 12: 41
    Defense Ministry pride does not allow to buy airbuses or Boeing for passenger traffic?
    how else can you fly in this coffin - tu154, 70 crashed out of 1000 built - this is no way.
    Well, we don’t have civilian aircraft manufacturing and all right, that means we have to use normal imported cars, and not bury people at sea.
    1. +2
      25 December 2016 12: 58
      Can you run your own in a series? The blessing is that.
      1. +3
        25 December 2016 13: 20
        what? tu204? maybe, but if they don’t have so many orders to make their production profitable, then they lose to competitors, even at their relative cheapness.
        nobody needs it abroad, and only the Russian market is not able to generate the necessary demand.
        1. +7
          25 December 2016 15: 29
          Quote: protoss
          and only the Russian market is not able to generate the necessary demand.

          You are talking absolute nonsense!
          The need for these aircraft in the domestic market can provide work for more than one plant and for years to come.
          Only the current bourgeois does not need this.
          1. +5
            25 December 2016 18: 40
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            Only the current bourgeois does not need this.

            Here is the key phrase. Someone needs only Boeings to fly.
          2. +2
            25 December 2016 19: 13
            the owners of airlines are businessmen, they are aimed at profit, and not at providing someone with work for years to come, explain to me why they do not take carcasses, which are 2 times cheaper, from harm?
    2. +4
      25 December 2016 14: 37
      Quote: protoss
      Defense Ministry pride does not allow to buy airbuses or Boeing for passenger traffic?

      These airplanes have a remote control function and nobody knows how it works. That would be nonsense. Can you imagine the Americans flying on our dry or silt?
      Do not say nonsense!
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 18: 40
        I'm talking about passenger transportation, since they are required by the military department. we have the whole country flying on Boeing, no one is confused by the "remote control function"
    3. +2
      26 December 2016 00: 02
      Quote: protoss
      Defense Ministry pride does not allow to buy airbuses or Boeing for passenger traffic?
      how else can you fly in this coffin - tu154, 70 crashed out of 1000 built - this is no way.

      The most dangerous passenger aircraft in terms of accidents, experts recognized the Boeing 737 JT8D, which includes the old modifications of the most popular passenger aircraft in the world, the Boeing 737 - models 100 and 200. These aircraft have one fatal accident with 507 flight hours.

      Source: http://fishki.net/1337738-samye-opasnye-i-samye-b
      ezopasnye-samolety-mira.html © Fishki.net
  31. 0
    25 December 2016 12: 46
    People themselves invented flying and traveling coffins and then they are surprised by accidents. Fell, fall and will fall. Well, they created a commission ... well, the prosecutor’s office was connected ... what will it give? How many times has it been? You will not return people. And it will always be like this and will fall every year. Invented the coffins here and reap.
  32. +6
    25 December 2016 12: 50
    Condolences to the relatives of the dead!
    But with the death of the board should deal with the most thorough way. Too much speaks of sabotage.
    1. +1
      25 December 2016 13: 20
      What exactly, in your opinion, speaks of sabotage?
    2. +1
      25 December 2016 17: 53
      Quote: NordUral
      But with the death of the board should deal with the most thorough way. Too much speaks of sabotage.

      Can someone shoot, just in case?
      1. +1
        25 December 2016 18: 42
        It would not hurt now. Because it’s like wartime, which has its own laws.
  33. +1
    25 December 2016 13: 02
    Lord, repose the souls of the tragically dead ...
  34. +4
    25 December 2016 13: 13
    Peace be upon them! Tears welling up: the military, musicians, Journalists, Dr. Lisa, in general, people, our people. How so? My condolences to those close to me.
  35. +10
    25 December 2016 13: 13
    A terrible tragedy. Lump to throat. Blessed memory of the dead! The best always leave ...
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  37. +11
    25 December 2016 13: 17
    Condolences to relatives, close and simply not indifferent people.
    I didn’t want to write anything, but the comments of some, from “true” patriots to “friends” of Russia with their own versions, are outraged. Sometimes it’s better to keep quiet while sharing grief with someone. People are working on the causes of the tragedy.

    I hope that they will help the Ensemble them. Aleksandrova other military ensembles, creative people to recreate the team.
    I hope that the example of Elizaveta Glinka will give an impetus to the emergence of new "Doctors Liz".
    Indifferent, honest, talented people in Russia have always been.
  38. 0
    25 December 2016 13: 18
    God forbid if the rocket helped him crazy !!! - and find out whose !!!!
  39. +3
    25 December 2016 13: 20
    Insanely sorry. No words. Sincerely condolences to relatives.
    I want the truth about the results of the investigation. Whatever it is.
    I can imagine what joyful squealing the enemies will have again. The history of the "hawthorn" brought their disgusting little souls to the surface.
    There are many victims, tangible losses. Moreover, it is a matter of honor to bring the matter to an end in Syria.
    And no truces.
    1. 0
      25 December 2016 14: 42
      Quote: Barkhan
      And no truces.

      That would be right, but ....! who listens to ordinary people.
  40. +6
    25 December 2016 13: 28

    Or well, or keep silent, put a candle for rest
    1. +4
      25 December 2016 14: 46
      Quote: Vasily V
      Or well, or keep silent, put a candle for rest

      Wrong you say!
      What a person deserves is what you need to talk about. It’s impossible to say the words about Yeltsin now! Or Gaidar only need to be praised?
      What heresy are you repeating! We have watered the Kosmodemyanskaya, and nothing, conscience allows them. The feat about 28 Panfilov’s people is being questioned, and we are making excuses!
      What a person deserves is what you need to talk about him, otherwise you can do vile things without fear. They didn’t think why this saying was invented!
      1. +2
        25 December 2016 15: 28
        Quote: Oleg147741
        Wrong you say!

        Your anger is out of place. He showed two pictures alluding to the fact that Elizabeth like the wrong people was standing next to them, and in order not to blaspheme, he said nothing.

        As for me, it seems to me that his comment is generally inappropriate now and indeed
        1. 0
          25 December 2016 19: 57
          Quote: karabas
          Your anger is out of place. He showed two pictures alluding to the fact that Elizabeth like the wrong people was standing next to them, and in order not to blaspheme, he said nothing.

          And without anger, sorry, it doesn’t work! We had so many airplanes produced and to fly from one end of the country to the other did not have to fly through Moscow. There were flights in a straight line, I mean not even regional airfields, but small-town ones.
      2. 0
        20 January 2017 18: 50
        For this ... it is not necessary to light candles, but to open your eyes wider. Whom did "doctor" LISA cure?
  41. 0
    25 December 2016 13: 36
    Very sad! My condolences to family and friends! How did this happen?
    1. +2
      25 December 2016 15: 33
      We all want to know: what is the reason for the tragedy?
  42. +4
    25 December 2016 13: 36
    The kingdom of heaven to all those who died in this terrible catastrophe! Strength and mental strength to their relatives and friends in a difficult period of awareness of the loss and experience of this pain ...
  43. 0
    25 December 2016 13: 37
    The family of each killed serviceman in the Tu-154 crash near Sochi will receive insurance compensation in total over 5,8 million rubles. This is stated in the message of the Sogaz insurance company, where the liability of the RF Ministry of Defense was insured for causing harm to the life, health and property of third parties during the operation of aircraft. The insurance company is ready to make payments as soon as possible. "The amount of compensation to the family of each deceased soldier will total more than 5,8 million rubles, of which 2,3 million rubles is an insurance payment and 3,5 million rubles is a lump sum," the insurer said in a statement. As TASS reported earlier, the servicemen on board the Tu-154 plane that fell in the Black Sea were insured under a state contract with the Sogaz company. This follows from the documents posted on the website of the insurance organization.
  44. +1
    25 December 2016 13: 42
    God bless the dead of death! Everlasting memory!
  45. +7
    25 December 2016 13: 51
    Painfully. They died at the forefront of the struggle, although they did not hold weapons in their hands. Rest their souls, Lord. The crew, I believe, fought to the very edge.
  46. +1
    25 December 2016 13: 55
    Now let's see what the world will say.
    About Ukrainians, and so everything is clear, either they are silent, or a bunch of rot.
    But what does the rest of the world say?
  47. +6
    25 December 2016 13: 56
    Lieutenant Colonel Yuri Petukhov, who was the navigator of the Tu-154, which crashed over the Black Sea, in 2011 was awarded for the landing of the Tu-154 (RA-85563), belonging to the 800th air base of the Ministry of Defense, whose control system failed. After the video of that landing appeared on social networks, Internet users nicknamed him "the dancing Tu-154".


    https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
    D1%82%D0%B8/951988/liotchik_poghibshii_pri_krushi
    enii_v_sochi_naghrazhdalsia_za_posadku_tantsuiush
    chiegho_tu-154
  48. +7
    25 December 2016 14: 37
    A terrible tragedy, relatives of courage, we grieve with you.
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  50. +3
    25 December 2016 14: 59
    Blessed memory to all the dead! We mourn and remember according to Russian custom!
  51. +3
    25 December 2016 15: 00
    Bright memory. I feel sorry for everyone.
  52. +1
    25 December 2016 15: 09
    Tragedy My condolences to the relatives of the victims. We are waiting for the results of the investigation.
  53. 0
    25 December 2016 15: 22
    the plane was more than thirty years old, sooner or later it was bound to crash. Even if this plane was not checked before departure, the plane on which mere mortals will fly will never be checked in their lives.
    1. +4
      25 December 2016 15: 29
      Quote: red joni
      the plane was more than thirty years old, sooner or later it was bound to crash. Even if this plane was not checked before departure, the plane on which mere mortals will fly will never be checked in their lives.

      A cynical lie.
      The majority, the absolute majority of specialists do their job well.
  54. +1
    25 December 2016 15: 23
    May the memory of all those who died, I especially feel sorry for Dr. Lisa.
  55. 0
    25 December 2016 15: 30
    Quote: Indiffeent
    Nightmare

    Do you want to say that the plane did not crash and there were no fatalities?
  56. +1
    25 December 2016 15: 34
    Bright memory
  57. 0
    25 December 2016 15: 37
    Quote: Yuyuka
    there is a feeling that this year is in a hurry in recent days to recoup to the maximum ... only in the last week there are so many tragedies!
  58. +8
    25 December 2016 15: 42
    Interesting picture:
    The murder of our doctors.
    An illogical attack on Palmyra.
    Murder of the ambassador.
    Yes, there is a bloody escalation in the Donbass, and attacks in the Caucasus, and even sports boycotts - on all fronts, in short.
    Now the plane... and not an ordinary ordinary one like the IL-16 recently.......
    For some reason, the version of the terrorist attack was dismissed IMMEDIATELY.
    And given the circumstances, it should have been a priority. And if you remember about the side that was blown up over Sinai, where everything was obvious, and even then they were spinning like a frying pan until the last. And why? But because the terrorist attack must be RESPONDED with a set of measures that will hit our liberal establishment with a sickle. They are afraid of only the shadow of order in the state, which they call “Stalinism”. And in a country at war, order is the key to survival. Having a liberal mess (so-called “freedom”) we will have troubles even without terrorist attacks.
    1. +5
      25 December 2016 16: 50
      How to respond to a terrorist attack in Egypt? How's that? destroy Egypt with a nuclear bomb? What kind of nonsense are you talking about? ours responded with a ban on flying to Egypt. You make an offer and don’t shake the air. Gorachev also constantly said...“You can’t live like this, you have to do something”
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 19: 18
        How old are you, dear? But still, I will answer briefly because in detail - they can equate to incitement.... At least as a state of “God’s chosen ones”.....
      2. +1
        25 December 2016 20: 00
        Quote: Kosmotoga
        How to respond to a terrorist attack in Egypt? How's that? destroy Egypt with a nuclear bomb? What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

        You are the one talking nonsense. There are a lot of methods, from political to economic. Isn't it time for our governments to stop groveling before the West! This is the main idea. Although the government that now doesn’t give a damn about this. They have villas and accounts overseas, and some have dual citizenship.
  59. +1
    25 December 2016 15: 53
    Quote: saksan
    Quote: Yuyuka
    there is a feeling that this year is in a hurry in recent days to recoup to the maximum ... only in the last week there are so many tragedies!

    month of December. From year to year, the maximum number of accidents occurs on all types of transport. And nothing can be done about it
  60. +2
    25 December 2016 16: 21
    Transport is speed, and water transport is also water. Transport is not safe.
    Tragic accidents have always carried with them lessons that help prevent possible future accidents.
    Every major accident should be a reason to discuss transport safety issues. Do not talk “about anything” to authorized officials, but openly discuss specific problems with the participation of specialists (engineers, psychologists, dispatchers, etc.). There is internet. Those interested can organize a non-governmental website dedicated to transport safety issues. I will help start public discussions. Transport safety is outside of politics, so there is no risk of conflict with those in power.
    This experience today has already been paid for. I will be sincerely sorry if my call is not heard today
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  62. 0
    25 December 2016 17: 18
    Explain to me why our planes and helicopters crash regularly?????
    1. +1
      25 December 2016 18: 17
      And look on the Internet. So, from memory, recently, somewhere in Peru, a plane with football players crashed, in Japan, a tiltrotor with Marines crashed, and within a couple of days an F-18 crashed there. Don't be lazy. You will find a lot of things in this regard from our friends.
    2. +3
      25 December 2016 18: 20
      The technology is getting old. Planes and helicopters were built during the USSR. Overhauls extend life, but metal fatigue cannot be repaired by overhauls. We need new technology - domestic. And they prefer to buy Boeings from us for oil dollars. And with technical maintenance, not everything is going smoothly either - specialists are aging and retiring, and there are few new ones and their professionalism is in question.
    3. 0
      26 December 2016 01: 20
      Quote: ZuuT
      Explain to me why our planes and helicopters crash regularly?????

      Whose is it?
  63. 0
    25 December 2016 17: 28
    Quote: saksan
    to make up for it as much as possible... there have been so many tragedies in the last week alone!

    Quote: saksan
    month of December. From year to year, the maximum number of accidents occurs on all types of transport. And nothing can be done about it

    I’ll add, according to statistics, December and January are the most emergency months in aviation around the world
  64. +1
    25 December 2016 18: 19
    Eternal memory to EVERYONE! To relatives - courage.
  65. +1
    25 December 2016 18: 36
    No comments.
  66. 0
    25 December 2016 18: 44

    graph of aircraft accidents by month of the year around the world
  67. +2
    25 December 2016 18: 50
    Quote: ZuuT
    Explain to me why our planes and helicopters crash regularly?????


    Why only ours? Boeings are lying around the world
  68. +3
    25 December 2016 18: 52
    Maybe there aren't enough angels in heaven? Tragedy. Forgive us Lord.
    1. 0
      26 December 2016 16: 22
      no... they just don't exist.
  69. +2
    25 December 2016 19: 28
    May they rest in peace. Sincere condolences to all the relatives and friends of the victims.
  70. +2
    25 December 2016 19: 59
    It looks like the landing in Sochi was forced. Exactly according to the information about the bookmark. Which was supposed to rush to work on time over Turkey. They planted him, searched him, but found nothing. Now estimate in time - where the plane should have been if not for the forced delay in Adler. Right over Turkey. The scattering of debris at a distance of 5-7 km along the flight path, despite the fact that the plane has not yet gained altitude, somehow hints that the plane fell apart in the air. And the pilots didn’t have time to report anything.
  71. 0
    25 December 2016 20: 03
    Sorry of course...

    But just in case, I’ll ask a question: Why did Doctor Lisa speak in the Kremlin during Putin’s award ceremony about the unknown whether she will return home or not... from these trips...

    Strange Statement...Usually, when they are awarded, they don’t think about bad things!

    .FSB needs to take a closer look at what has happened in her family lately???
    1. +1
      25 December 2016 20: 43
      Don't project....pan head!
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 20: 54
        ...Oga...Only a terrorist attack on the face...
    2. +3
      25 December 2016 21: 35
      Everything has a limit. Personally, I don't excuse you. And in order not to ask questions, go to where children are dying. Look into the eyes of a dying, crippled child and feel that you are unable to help him no matter how much you want. This small, fragile woman did much more than she said.
      And let me add, I would slap you in the face with all my heart.
      1. 0
        25 December 2016 21: 46
        That's right, there is a limit to everything. And in the psyche as well, especially when someone is engaged in a very difficult task! But you don’t know that in practice, essentially, when this happens, Investigators should not reject anything! Nothing! And all participants and those involved in this will still be and must be under suspicion! Without exception, everything! After all, nothing is clear yet... I’m not blaming anyone, I’m just emphasizing what they must do, namely check everything and everyone!

        And I didn’t deserve a slap... You can’t be emotional here...

        Why did the regular Bodyguard kill Indira Gandhi?
        Why did an elite special forces policeman involved in Erdogan’s security shoot our Ambassador?

        Why did the hero of the Moscow Defense Vlasov surrender to the Germans?

        Let the experts do this...
        1. 0
          27 December 2016 18: 30
          .I’m not blaming anyone, I’m just emphasizing what they must do, namely check everything and everyone!
          Dirty hints about Dr. Lisa. There were 92 people flying there! Everyone flying there was a Personality. And you are looking for suicide bombers among them. The inspector was found...
          1. 0
            27 December 2016 19: 08
            If this was an explosion, please suggest another option for checking clean, you are ours!

            Yes, I didn’t hint at anything, I just said that all versions need to be checked without exception...
  72. +2
    25 December 2016 20: 51
    Terrible tragedy. The tragedy is not only for loved ones, it is a tragedy for all of us, patriots of the country.
    Doctor Lisa is an example of humanism and mercy, a bright person and a fighter, a fighter for the lives of those who cannot stand up for themselves - children. May her memory be blessed.
    Song and Dance Ensemble named after. Aleksandova are bearers of patriotism, guardians of Soviet song.
    Media workers, military personnel.
    A great loss for the country. We have lost the best of the best. It hurts, it hurts a lot.
  73. 0
    25 December 2016 22: 46
    The cause of the disaster may be counterfeit spare parts for the plane, which is old, many aircraft factories in Ukraine, for example in Kharkov
  74. +1
    25 December 2016 23: 41
    Quote: Homo
    on VO me or by mistake on Echo, or maybe the rain got in

    There are no fewer State Department mercenaries here, the attack on Russia is underway in all directions,
    It’s just that here they won’t shout “glory to Ukraine” - they work more subtly.
  75. +2
    26 December 2016 03: 37
    The Kingdom of Heaven for the Lost. I’m very sorry for everyone. People, at least don’t start a fight and empty guesses about this. But we have no facts, except that, as they said on TV, there was no signal about the accident, the plane simply disappeared.
  76. 0
    26 December 2016 11: 25
    Quote: bulvas
    Trying to make us hit some country to blame the aggressor and break the situation

    They are trying to force us to attack some “little stinking” country. Nah, nah, there’s plenty of this crap inside, the Russian National Guard is beating the hooves of the patriots.
  77. 0
    26 December 2016 16: 10
    As the news doesn’t go away, I cry. May their memory be blessed.
  78. 0
    26 December 2016 17: 01
    I have no doubt that this was a terrorist attack in any form and the United States and its stellites, terrorists, agents, etc. are to blame. They need a terrorist war in Eurasia against their competitors. US capitalists and financiers are becoming closely associated with the growth of the Earth’s population and the lack of energy resources! The main competitor at this stage is Russia for them, as the richest country with natural resources and fresh water. Therefore, they conduct false propaganda in order to use world opinion to justify the terrorist war they organized against Russia. For the elimination of Russia, without a direct nuclear war, the USA needs the neo-Nazis of Ukraine, puppets in Kiev and the European Union, terrorist organizations in Eurasia, created by them!
    The steppe crumbled with colorful
    On open spaces of the sovereign country.
    How much can people endure
    The humiliation of a bloody war!

    All for the sake of lying friends
    From the hands of foreign masters
    On the expanses of the Russian steppes
    The Russian people are dying!

    And in a gang of Ukrainian businessmen
    And in the outskirts of the Russian land,
    Surrounded by Kremlin flatterers
    Enemies rule their ball to Russia!

    In truce with the enemy horde
    The blood of women and children is pouring.
    Russia is torn apart by hostility
    From vicious, cruel leaders!

    God save all
    Our beautiful but sinful world!
    In Ukraine, Holy Russia
    There is a Nazi feast.

    So answer me, Russian people!
    How much will you endure evil,
    While your holy clan perishes
    From the sovereign power to decrepit?

    To glow with a bloody glow
    In the outskirts of a great country.
    How much can people endure
    The power of the lord is the power of Satan!

    Death spreads in a bloody dawn
    On the plains of Slavic land.
    How much can all Russians endure,
    Those enemies who fanned the war!

    If the authorities assume that this is not a terrorist attack, then TU 154 was faulty. If passengers were put on a faulty plane, which flew from Moscow to Sochi, and then suddenly broke down and crashed without flying tens of kilometers from Sochi, this means a technical attack, or rather wrecking! What is not clear or necessary to explain? The government must strip its swords and tackle the elimination of terror organizers around the world, as Israel and the United States do! Otherwise, they will slaughter and destroy Russia!
  79. 0
    26 December 2016 23: 24
    Very sad! They performed at the Kharkov Sputnik named after. Alexandrova with the guys in Sevastopol! And it hurts