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Will Belarus be charged up?

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President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko regularly cites his country as an example of a stable and friendly state. It seems that the representatives of the nationalist organizations of the republic do not share the peace-loving presidential ideas and have long been thinking of “jumping” on the Belarusian Maidan.

So, in early December, members of the opposition Belarusian National Congress (BNK) announced the formation of a military commission. The decision, apparently, was another step towards the creation by the opposition of paramilitary units aimed at fighting the current leadership of the Republic of Belarus.

Recall that in the past 30 days this is the second attempt to create militarized units in the country. At the end of November, the Young Front movement organized an event, according to the results of which the fighters took an oath of allegiance to the union and its ideas. It should be noted that this organization for several years engaged in the preparation of "jumping patriots" of the republic. At the same time, in the workshop for the production of radicals, two main lines can be distinguished, one of which is located inside the country, and the other on the territory of Ukraine.

One of the main links in the chain of training of nationalist personnel are sports and patriotic organizations, the most notable of which the Vayar club is considered. With the help of social networks, the Vayar people attract young people to their ranks, train with them to assault and defend buildings, and train them to use firearms. weapons. In addition, on the community page on the social network "Vkontakte" there are videos that teach users how to install grenade-extensions and other military tricks. However, nationalist circles are just the tip of the iceberg. The base of the Belarusian militarized glacier is still on Ukrainian territory.

In particular, immediately after the start of the conflict in the South-East of Ukraine, many radicals of Belarus moved to the aid of their spiritual mentors - representatives of the Right Sector (banned in the Russian Federation). It’s quite a known fact that in the ATO zone there is an armed formation “Chase” consisting of Belarusian citizens fighting on the side of the punishers. To be honest, there is no doubt even where and for what purposes it is planned to use the combat experience gained.

Analyzing the above, the conclusion suggests itself that Belarus can go along the “glorious path” of Ukraine with a delay of 5-10 years. Most bewilderment is the fact that the sad Ukrainian scenario, it seems, did not teach anything to some residents of the brotherly state for Russia.
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  1. Combitor
    Combitor 24 December 2016 05: 52
    +16
    The germ of the infection must be destroyed immediately. No need to play democracy. Particularly stubborn and implacable - to the wall. The rest - on the construction of the national economy. Otherwise - blood, chaos, devastation. From American cookies comes bloody diarrhea.
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 24 December 2016 06: 04
      +4
      I agree completely. And the most stubborn, from ideologists, simply sent to the United States, so that they live happily overseas, let them feed them. bully
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 24 December 2016 06: 25
        +5
        While Old Man in power in Belarus, everything will be calm, but it will not be eternal. Then, if everything is launched, the ideologists of the color revolutions are right there.
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 24 December 2016 08: 12
          +8
          Whether Belarus will jump in - I don’t know, but a quarter of Moscow is already at a low start.
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 24 December 2016 13: 08
            +16
            All of these pseudo-patriots - count! am Especially those that hobnob with pravosekah and fight in the Donbass!
          2. 210ox
            210ox 24 December 2016 18: 00
            +2
            That there is little concern for me personally in Moskvabad is a separate sexual drama .. What a quarter of Muscovites thought up there when the other two quarters pray to Allah and the remaining quarter tries to run into resale, we, zamkadyshe, are worried because insofar as the Kremlin is located there ..
            Quote: Mahmut
            Whether Belarus will jump in - I don’t know, but a quarter of Moscow is already at a low start.
          3. avt
            avt 24 December 2016 19: 02
            +2
            Quote: Mahmut
            Whether Belarus will jump in - I don’t know, but a quarter of Moscow is already at a low start.

            Well, remember what happened to that, Mahmut! set fire to "when you are going to perform an artistic whistle again. Even on Bolotnaya at the peak of the White-greeted times and then to the Kamenny Bridge, well, at least 2% of the population of Moscow, and for a circle of 10 million there are definitely, it turned out, and every creature is a couple from homosexuals to Natsiks, there are also such - 25 years of brainwashing have not been in vain for Russia, and they sympathize like
            Quote: 210ox
            That there is little concern for me personally in Moskvabad is a separate sexual drama .. What a quarter of Muscovites thought up there when the other two quarters pray to Allah and the remaining quarter tries to run into resale, we, zamkadyshe, are worried because insofar as the Kremlin is located there ..

            ,, Oh, you're lying! You are lying to the Tsar "The Kremlin, even as a symbol of the statehood of Russia, is not at all interested in such a thing, not a gram, not a millimeter, well,
            Quote: 210ox
            zamkadyshe,
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 26 December 2016 19: 48
              +1
              Neither Belarusians nor Kazakhstan will "skip"

              But the floor of Moscow and Leningrad is already jumping.

              There is danger in the center. and from there the USSR collapsed - and they are still there - maybe someone will do something at last?
      2. Delink
        Delink 24 December 2016 06: 43
        +5
        It makes no sense to send abroad, to send everyone to the quarry, so that through your hands and hunger it reaches the brain if it does not dry out.
    2. Donhapa
      Donhapa 24 December 2016 09: 47
      +5
      Quote: Kombitor
      The germ of the infection must be destroyed immediately. No need to play democracy. Particularly stubborn and implacable - to the wall. The rest - on the construction of the national economy. Otherwise - blood, chaos, devastation. From American cookies comes bloody diarrhea.

      Quote: Teberii
      While Old Man in power in Belarus, everything will be calm, but it will not be eternal. Then, if everything is launched, the ideologists of the color revolutions are right there.

      And as usual, Belarusian Jews run these Nazis.
  2. Odysseus
    Odysseus 24 December 2016 06: 09
    +14
    A provocative article, one might as well ask the question whether Russia will jump in. At least the likelihood of this in Russia is significantly higher than in Belarus.
    What are the conditions for a "color revolution" in the post-Soviet space? This, against the will of the West
    1) The presence of a "class of owners" oriented towards the West and storing capital there. Ideally, these owners should control the media.
    2) The presence of money and property in the West and / or offspring there. Their desire to become part of the "civilized world".
    Both of these conditions were fully in Ukraine, partially in Russia, and completely absent in Belarus.
    As for the "horses", actually, it is just a consumable, cannon fodder, of course it can be collected in Belarus and Russia and anywhere.
    So the chances that Belarus will "skip" are zero. But this, of course, does not mean that the Americans are not working in this direction. They are doing very intensive work.
    They train militants, and fawn on Lukashenka, who has abruptly ceased to be a "dictator" for them and work with officials. Plus, of course, "creative intelligentsia"
    So we need not to ask abstract questions "will Belarus skip," but in turn actively work there to preserve the unity of our countries.
    1. BLOND
      BLOND 24 December 2016 06: 36
      +11
      A provocative article, one might as well ask the question whether Russia will jump in. At least the likelihood of this in Russia is significantly higher than in Belarus.

      Article is normal
      On the outskirts, too, we had no idea about such a development of events.
      And in Russia now the probability is less than 4 years ago (in any case, I see how the "tentacles" of the Maidan are being cut - the plan is similar)
      - this is the media and agents of influence
      And what about Lukashenko !? Without the support of Russia, they merge it (like Yanukovych) at the touch of a button ... And then a few Boeings with green papers + unfinished liberal democrats and Belaya Rus on fire (DO NOT GIVE GOD)
      So the chances that Belarus will "skip" are zero. But this, of course, does not mean that the Americans are not working in this direction.

      Do you think they scatter seeds in vain? Crop they want.
      we need not to ask abstract questions "will Belarus jump?"

      We must shout about it, especially to the Belarusians themselves
      In addition to the President and the security forces, there should be a very active civic position in society. So that not a single liberal can even look askance at the police
      Like in Lugansk in 2014 - when people were just around the clock "human shield" guarded the SBU building, seized by future "separatists"
      They did not let the junta destroy everything in the bud!
    2. kit_bellew
      kit_bellew 24 December 2016 07: 17
      +7
      Quote: Odyssey
      What are the conditions for a "color revolution" in the post-Soviet space? This, against the will of the West
      1) The presence of a "class of owners" oriented towards the West and storing capital there. Ideally, these owners should control the media.
      2) The presence of money and property in the West and / or offspring there. Their desire to become part of the "civilized world".
      Both of these conditions were fully in Ukraine, partially in Russia, and completely absent in Belarus.

      Forgive me, but these are not conditions, but goals color revolutions. I want to remind you that the very first of them occurred in the USSR in 1991.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 24 December 2016 16: 12
        +3
        Quote: kit_bellew
        Forgive me, but these are not conditions, but the goals of color revolutions

        No, these are precisely the conditions. The goal is to turn the post-Soviet capitalist republics into pro-American capitalist republics. That is, to put it simply, the goal is to put them under the full control of the West.
        Quote: kit_bellew
        I want to remind you that the very first of them occurred in the USSR in 1991.

        This is not true. Where did you see in 1991 the "class of owners" and officials with accounts in Western banks? It all formed after 1991.
        The restructuring of 1985-1991 was an anti-Soviet revolution of the classical class type, that is, it was about the transition from socialism to capitalism.
        Color revolutions are revolutions geopolitical , that is, it is not about changing the social structure, but about a change in political orientation. From the point of view of classical ideas, these are not even revolutions, but simply coups d'etat.
        For example, in Ukraine there was capitalism and the oligarchs ruled everything, and capitalism remained and the oligarchs still ruled everyone. What has changed? Never mind. The social formation has not changed.
        Nevertheless, the changes after the Maidan are striking, but they do not lie in the socio-economic plane.
    3. avt
      avt 24 December 2016 11: 32
      +8
      Quote: Odyssey
      So the chances that Belarus will "ride" are zero.

      You either put on those underpants or take off the cross. When with an aplomb of the type on the basis of the laid out reflections you issue such an categorical conclusion, immediately fuck yourself a fool to cook
      Quote: Odyssey
      . But this, of course, does not mean that the Americans are not working in this direction. They are being led very intensively.
      They train militants, and fawn on Lukashenka, who has abruptly ceased to be a "dictator" for them and work with officials. Plus, of course, "creative intelligentsia"
      So we need not to ask abstract questions "will Belarus jump?"

      Quote: BLOND
      Article is normal

      Yes, actually the photo on the screen saver is steeper than the article !!! Look WHO is hardly built there and WHERE are these banderlogs standing with a portrait of Shukhevych sa-a-ah-perfectly calm! This is in a country in which subordinates of Shukhevych people burned VILLAGES VILLAGES! And now these are the heroes who are not dying! And here we have a chorus of boys-bunnies gundosit about
      Quote: Comrade_Stalin
      Do not jump.

      Quote: Odyssey
      So we need not to ask abstract questions "will Belarus skip," but in turn actively work there to preserve the unity of our countries.

      What are you about!??
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Minsk adopted a law on "little green men", Gomel banned St. George's ribbon in minibuses, do you think Bandera's portrait will be allowed? Figurines!

      Well, this one is generally unique, it’s really who you need to be fool , or troll vulgaris-ordinary to write this under an article with such a photo under the heading! Yes, for going out into the street with such a collage, but in Belarus you must immediately give 5 years of strict regime, or even jail!
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Alas, even as he jumps up. And there is external support, from the south, west, north ..

      And the most important thing is that the elite and Batska are building the Lithuanian national project to maintain power, not as evil and fiercely as the Great Ukrainian one, but they are building it, and without thinking about the fact that it cannot be other than opposing Russia. Even the mantras about "sayuznaye statehood" have already been discarded - they do not roll and "we will fix you". Thank God, Russia has begun to build a defensive line on its territory.
      1. Comrade Stalin
        Comrade Stalin 24 December 2016 11: 51
        +3
        Oh oh oh :))). Bender a Hero for Great Lives? Have you collapsed from oak? What does the Hitlerite henchman from Galicia have to young lithuanians? From the black-eyed black-eyed and black-browed (so glorified in songs about Little Russian beauties) snouts of these juvenile morons in the photo it can be seen that it was the horses from dill who jumped up to kindle the international with provocative posters. Or didn’t you see an abundance of Georgian flags on the Maidan? Still, the Lithuanians would come out with placards digging a bender and other Hitler sixes :)))).
        1. avt
          avt 24 December 2016 12: 05
          +5
          Quote: Comrade_Stalin
          Oh oh oh :))). Bender a Hero for Great Lives? Have you collapsed from oak? What does the Hitlerite henchman from Galicia have to young lithuanians?

          fool Oh how! Congenially on a photo, without presenting a passport determines nationality and nationality! wassat The winner of the "Battle of psychics" with TNT visited us directly! Well, if you decided that tse garni lads
          Quote: Comrade_Stalin
          From the black-eyed black-eyed and black-browed (so glorified in songs about Little Russian beauties) snouts of these juvenile morons in the photo it can be seen that it was the horses from dill who jumped up to kindle the international with provocative posters.
          So be it - sweat it.
          But they wiggled their brains - WHY do they sa-a-absolutely calmly stand and none of those around them cares! Yes JUST were able to get out! This is despite the fact that when they came out in the 90s with portraits of local oppositionists against the 2nd entrance through the carriageway near the cinema, and for the mass display of victims of the regime, the photos of the defendants were duplicated, they were dispersed at the moment, even despite the presence of Western journalists !
          1. Comrade Stalin
            Comrade Stalin 24 December 2016 12: 38
            +3
            Well, if the people do not react to this, then let them get what they deserve. We got the horses. And why are Belarusian horses better? You yourself know that you cannot be cute by force. Look how the USSR fed the Georgians, the Balts and the Ukrovs, and they eventually became the worst enemies. Let democracy and liberalism jump and eat their fill, like our Baltic, Georgian and Ukrainian "brothers". Something is not heard now about the "Baltic tigers", "Georgian miracle" and "Ukrainian 1000 euros pension and 2000 euros salary", as well as their shrine "visa-free" :)))).
            The USSR spoiled them too much, they ate, saw how rich they live, and how poor the Russians live, and of course, they came to the conclusion that I’m a complete asshole, and if they throw off pigs, they will live even better.
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus 24 December 2016 17: 14
        +1
        Quote: avt
        You either put on those underpants or take off the cross. When with an aplomb of the type on the basis of the laid out reflections you issue such an categorical conclusion, immediately fuck yourself a fool to cook

        Think more flexibly. Now there are zero chances, but this does not mean that they will not be tomorrow. Westerners do not sit on their bottoms talking exactly about the "bad Belarusians" and do not ask rhetorical questions, they work. They work with officials, invest money in the development of "civil society. "in the student movement, etc.
        Moreover, I remind you that preparation for the Maidan began in Belarus in the late 90s, and the first major attempt was in 2010. So far, due to the reasons about which I wrote, the West does not succeed, but attempts will continue in the future.
        Exactly the same way they work in Russia, with the only difference being that it’s much easier for them to work and there are more chances to transfer power from post-Soviet to radically pro-Western forces.
        Quote: avt
        And most importantly, the elite and Butsk to build power builds the national project of Lithuania, not as evil and fierce as the Great Ukrainian

        It is not the Old Man who is building it, but the West is creating this ideology, for that part of the cannon fodder that pretends to be "Belarusian nationalists". For the other part of the racers, the ideology of Belarus-tse Europe is being prepared.
        In Ukraine, Bandera ideology was being prepared for this part of the horses; in Russia, the White Guard ideology was being prepared.
        Quote: avt
        . Thank God in Russia they began to build a defensive line on their territory.

        This is a criminally wrong way of thinking. To declare that everyone around us is bad, everyone wants to fool us, we can’t do anything and we don’t even have to, and as a result, let’s sit on the priest, do nothing and "build a defensive line."
        And this despite the fact that in Russia itself there are more prerequisites for Maidan than in Belarus itself.
        It is even impossible to explain such heresy to an American, try to explain to him that America does not need to fight for influence in Canada, but should leave it to Russia and start preparing a "defensive line" in the north of the United States.
        They’re at least fighting this type of thinking even worse than Maidan’s, though they’re not doing what they need under the guidance of others, well, at least they’re doing something. You immediately suggest surrendering.
        1. avt
          avt 24 December 2016 19: 13
          +2
          Quote: Odyssey
          This is not the Old Man building, but the West is creating this ideology,

          Yes Yes. Not a bad king - the boyars, but actually not the boyars at all, but the valor ... But father around! fool
          Quote: Odyssey
          To declare that everyone around us is bad, everyone wants to fool us, we can’t do anything and we don’t even have to, and as a result, let’s sit on the priest, do nothing and "build a defensive line."

          Well, why cheating then? Or to the delight that in the virtual through the monitor the candelabrum will not fly quite real? GDP is absolutely correct, following the results of the separation of flies from cutlets with all this CSTO jelly, not paying attention to Batskin's artistic whistle, and guided solely by the correspondence of the conducted cases to promises, builds a defense policy in the interests of Russia. Remind me how it is with the base for the Air Force RFk 2015! But is Father already in the know at last?
          Quote: Odyssey
          Think more flexible.

          Quote: Odyssey
          Think more flexible.

          Yes, it’s much more flexible and wider. Maybe you just try not to bend your thoughts under the subject of your personal adoration, but simply take a piece of paper, spread it in half with a pencil on the ruler from top to bottom and write down all the Father’s promises on the right, and on the left - fulfillment, or vice versa . Well, then just think, not bending under the subject of adoration.
    4. james
      james 25 December 2016 12: 35
      0
      And you read, and then write.
      http://talks.by/showthread.php?t=14307233&page=1
    5. Caretaker
      Caretaker 25 December 2016 13: 28
      0
      Quote: Odyssey
      ... A provocative article, one might as well ask the question whether Russia will jump in. At least the likelihood of this is much higher in Russia than in Belarus ...

      The article is not provocative, but expresses concern about negative phenomena in a fraternal country.

      In Russia, they will not download, because the main idea and goal of the Maidans is the slogan "Ukraine is not Russia".
      Our "rabid" gather in the swamp (on the Swamp) and their slogans are different.

      It is necessary to destroy illegal armed formations "in the bud", preventing them from developing.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 26 December 2016 00: 23
        0
        Quote: Caretaker
        The article is not provocative, but expresses concern about negative phenomena in a fraternal country.

        If she was not provocative, then she
        1) It would be called differently.
        2) I would evaluate the situation in Belarus objectively, and not pulling out some aspects.
        3) It would contain the author’s suggestions on the necessary actions on the part of Russia in the situation that arose in order to prevent the Ukrainian scenario there.
        In the same form in which it is printed, it simply offends the majority of the citizens of Belarus, that is, it just contributes to the Belarusian "Maidan", and does not warn it.
        Quote: Caretaker
        In Russia, they will not download, because the main idea and goal of the Maidans is the slogan "Ukraine is not Russia".
        Our "rabid" gather in the swamp (on the Swamp) and their slogans are different.

        Oh God, what is this, excuse me, for kindergarten. Well, where does such attention to slogans and performers come from?
        The essence is the essence of the phenomena, and not their external design.
        Once again, the essence of the "color revolutions" in post-socialist countries is the transfer of power from the nomenclature of former degenerated communists to direct protégés of the United States. That is, placing these former republics under US control.
        For example, Georgia is the "Rose Revolution" - the transfer of power from Shevardnadze (a reborn communist) to Saakashvili (a US stag). And here Russia is no different from other Soviet republics.
        What is the essence of the events at Bolotnaya - an attempt to transfer power from Putin (Yeltsin's successor, a reborn communist) to the conditional Navalny (US protégé). Therefore, Russia can also "skip" like Ukraine or Georgia.
        Well, extras should have different slogans and heroes. Otherwise, this will not work. For example, for Serbia, the Americans prepared their slogans and their heroes, for their Ukraine.
        For example, the Ukrainians had to ride, but the Russians would be offered to lie, in memory of all those who had been trained by the bloody gebeit and personally by Putin. The meaning of this will not change at all.
  3. 501Legion
    501Legion 24 December 2016 07: 04
    +5
    It's time for the special forces to close the entire top of this riffraff
  4. asher
    asher 24 December 2016 07: 54
    +4
    Zakaskat, and how! That Bandera, that Belarusians are Russian renegades.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 24 December 2016 08: 03
      +1
      No, really, my friend - they won't skip! Lukashenka may be going too far, but he keeps his line straight. Minsk adopted a law on "little green men", Gomel banned St. George's ribbon in minibuses, do you think Bandera's portrait will be allowed? Figurines!
      1. james
        james 25 December 2016 12: 37
        0
        Here is the answer
        http://talks.by/showthread.php?t=14307233
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 24 December 2016 08: 19
      +8
      Quote: asher
      That Bandera, that Belarusians are Russian renegades.

      You’re just a provocateur, they took all the Belarusians and recorded them in Bandera, and they even called them renegades. For a start, go to Khatyn, which the Ukrainian punishers burned along with the residents, and then tell the Belarusians that they are Bandera, only call an ambulance right away ...
    3. Sheikh
      Sheikh 24 December 2016 09: 37
      +3
      Quote: asher
      Zakaskat, and how! That Bandera, that Belarusians are Russian renegades.


      protest moods, it seemed to me, are always manifested in countries like Ukraine or Belarus because of the impossibility of the elite to change, to transfer the state from which they are feeding on modern democratic rails. Their elites are the heirs of the USSR, and they repeat the path of the USSR and, of course, their countries will face the same fate, the emerging dissatisfaction with the elites is perfectly "canalized" into the nationalism of mentally undeveloped young people-patriots, who are offered simple and understandable models of behavior as bright ideas of renewal: Ukrainian - kill the enemy and live as the owner of your land, Belarusian - kill the enemy - for centuries they sat on the neck of the Belarusian people, drank the blood of their fathers, and similar attitudes of hatred, leading a healthy desire to move forward to peace and prosperity on the way to nowhere, cowardice for their sources of income or the inability to change the situation, modernize the country among the ruling elites and lead to its disintegration.
      as Wolond's retinue said from the famous novel, "We are delighted."
  5. peta locksmith
    peta locksmith 24 December 2016 08: 09
    +8
    because of father’s desire to sit on two chairs - very likely

    example- Komrad Yanukovych- this one also tried to climb into the Russian market with one hand, cling to the Eusropean lace underpants with the other
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 December 2016 08: 22
    +6
    Will Belarus be charged up? Alas, even as he jumps up. And there is external support, from the south, west, north .. The old man will leave and rock, create interruptions, discontent, provocations. They know how, experience is. Compared to Ruin, a small country will collapse quickly.
    Only the restoration of the death penalty for a crime against statehood can stabilize the situation.
    1. Donhapa
      Donhapa 24 December 2016 09: 56
      +7
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Will Belarus be charged up? Alas, even as he jumps up. And there is external support, from the south, west, north .. The old man will leave and rock, create interruptions, discontent, provocations. They know how, experience is. Compared to Ruin, a small country will collapse quickly.
      Only the restoration of the death penalty for a crime against statehood can stabilize the situation.

      Well, your Jewish brothers in Belarus, who are just teeming with them and who are gnawing by a toad, so Lukashenka didn’t let everything be stolen, as in Russia and Ukraine they will be badass. Set the stage.
      I hope that the Belarusian KGB will have time to tear them off ...
  7. WOLF 107
    WOLF 107 24 December 2016 08: 33
    +1
    And what kind of country is this-BELARUS ??? And where is she located ??? request
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 24 December 2016 08: 55
      +4
      Quote: WOLF 107
      And what kind of country is this-BELARUS ??? And where is she located ??? request

      - somewhere in the mountains, near the sea, as far as I know laughing
    2. Victor Minskiy
      Victor Minskiy 24 December 2016 11: 27
      +4
      In the west of the RSFSR! and also the inhabitants of Belarus love to go on an excursion to Leningrad!
      1. Victor Minskiy
        Victor Minskiy 24 December 2016 11: 34
        +1
        Once again about nothing ... And it is written so that it would be annoying the Belarusians themselves. And apparently you are waiting for just such a reaction that for jumping! We are already jumping, we have nothing to eat, no work, taxed like wolves on the hunt. Belarusians eat one common enemy! In the West and in the East they know this .... And I am playing this card in my interests ...
        1. Victor Minskiy
          Victor Minskiy 24 December 2016 11: 44
          +1
          P / S is another deliberate misrepresentation of facts ....
          1. avt
            avt 24 December 2016 11: 55
            +7
            Quote: VictorMinskiy
            P / S is another deliberate misrepresentation of facts ...

            Have you heard. “Onizhedeti.” There are no Nazis in Kiev - only the fight against Panda Ssynukovich. But of course, before Ssynukovich himself brought the Nazis to the Rada, it may not be close, but the fact that there are portraits of Bandera and Shukhevych on the street
            Quote: avt
            Yes, for going out into the street with such a collage, but in Belarus you must immediately give 5 years of strict regime, or even jail!
            Or is the ash of Khatyn not knocking in the heart? Well, as for our liberals, and most of them Jews, it is quite comfortable to breathe the "air of freedom" walking along Bandera Avenue and admiring the memorial plaque commemorating Khnroy Orlik.
      2. Caretaker
        Caretaker 25 December 2016 13: 58
        0
        Quote: VictorMinskiy
        In the west of the RSFSR! and also the inhabitants of Belarus love to go on an excursion to Leningrad!

        If we are to use Soviet geographical terms, then "in the west of the USSR" or "west of the RSFSR."
        By the way, if you like it, call the city Leningrad, in St. Petersburg they don't take offense at "Leningrad".
        Moreover, you can call Russia in the comments on the Russian Federation website.

        PS Interestingly, do you take offense at "Belaya Rus"?
        1. Victor Minskiy
          Victor Minskiy 25 December 2016 18: 08
          +1
          Quote: Caretaker
          Quote: VictorMinskiy
          In the west of the RSFSR! and also the inhabitants of Belarus love to go on an excursion to Leningrad!

          If we are to use Soviet geographical terms, then "in the west of the USSR" or "west of the RSFSR."
          By the way, if you like it, call the city Leningrad, in St. Petersburg they don't take offense at "Leningrad".
          Moreover, you can call Russia in the comments on the Russian Federation website.

          PS Interestingly, do you take offense at "Belaya Rus"?

          Belaya Rus is the name of the ruling party of the Almighty .... For us, this is just a phrase ... causing not the best associations ....... And it has nothing to do with the name of the country "Belarus"
  8. populist
    populist 24 December 2016 08: 48
    +4
    Lukashenko is pursuing a lithvinization policy within the country. This is the ideological basis of the Maidan. But they won’t immediately jump. After 10 years, maybe they will jump. After 15 years, it is already likely.
  9. Comrade Stalin
    Comrade Stalin 24 December 2016 08: 50
    +2
    Will not skip. Ever since Soviet times, when I visited Ukraine and Belarus, I always noted what a striking difference the population of these supposedly fraternal republics make. If in Ukraine they always boasted of their Ukrainianness, their embroidered shirts, dances, mova, openly considered themselves a higher nation than the Russians, and called the Russians invaders behind their backs (and this despite the fact that I had not yet been to Western Ukraine), then in Belarus nothing I did not notice this, in Minsk, Brest and other Belarusian cities I felt the same as if I were in the cities of the RSFSR, not the BSSR. Have you read Babi Yar? So, although the author is a native of Kiev, his father is Russian, and his native language is also Russian, but as an ordinary reflective intellectual liberal, he constantly cries in the book, like Russian rot against Ukrainians, and carried out forced assimilation. He also describes how the people of Kiev enthusiastically greeted the Germans with bread and salt, rejoicing that the Bolshevik regime had finally disappeared, and the Germans were bringing them European values ​​and culture. Well, what is the difference between the horses of 1941 and the horses of 2013? The same dreams and aspirations that foreigners will bring them everything on a silver platter.
  10. Chulman
    Chulman 24 December 2016 09: 09
    +3
    Ours are also replenished, clown with Belarus. We must be friends, but at the same time have strong borders. Please visit, but raising revolutionary bonfires on our territory is prohibited !!!
  11. Brigadier
    Brigadier 24 December 2016 10: 10
    +4
    Looks like Lukas Khan is coming soon!
    In Banderlogia, it all started exactly the same ...
    It's time for Lukash to stock up on lard, so that at hour "H" there was something to lubricate his heels ... negative
  12. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 24 December 2016 10: 14
    +7
    I was warned here for saying about Belarus that they shouldn’t incite them. But the article is the same and it’s being published. Is that double standards, like in the USA? You can’t make comments, but for the money, but yours, everything is possible.
    1. Victor Minskiy
      Victor Minskiy 25 December 2016 20: 05
      +1
      I absolutely agree with your arguments! Moreover, articles are written by those people who have never been to Belarus And are far from the problems of the Belarusian people and society. How Belarusians are not familiar to me the problems of Russians living beyond the Urals (I have been there more than once). I have repeatedly written to moderators about blunders with unacceptable speech selections, for which I was successfully banned. I can say that some authors of comments, judging by the style of writing from Russia, write better in Mongo more literate and politically correct than the authors of the articles themselves. Peace for everyone..
  13. East
    East 24 December 2016 12: 35
    +6
    Will jump. Definitely. He went over with his son, to nausea. Give him a saber and a marshal’s wand.
    1. Donhapa
      Donhapa 26 December 2016 08: 11
      +1
      Quote: East
      Will jump. Definitely. He went over with his son, to nausea. Give him a saber and a marshal’s wand.

      Hmmm!
      In five or ten years, and we will download. Chubais with his "FALCONS"
  14. pts-m
    pts-m 24 December 2016 15: 10
    +3
    As people say ... bad business is not tricky, but it doesn’t allow you to turn on your head ... Lukashenko repeats the "rake way" of his friends-leaders from the ruin. But most importantly ... when the whole canoe begins, DO NOT provide him with political refuge in Russia ...
    1. Donhapa
      Donhapa 26 December 2016 08: 21
      +1
      [quote = pts-m] As they say ... bad business is not tricky, but it doesn’t allow you to turn on your head ... Lukashenko repeats the "rake way" of his friends-leaders from the ruin. But the most important thing ... when the whole thing starts canoe, then DO NOT provide him with political asylum in Russia ... [/ quote

      I think that the Old Man will not provide you with a reason for such joy.
      Hopefully the KGB will quickly deal with the 5th column, as with the villains who staged terrorist acts in Belarus, despite the universal howl of the p'gav defenders
  15. Dekabrist
    Dekabrist 24 December 2016 15: 25
    +3
    It all depends on several factors.
    The first factor. Does Belarus enter the sphere of foreign policy interests of Russia.
    If not, the conversation takes on a purely theoretical character.
    If so, then the second factor. What are you ready to do in order to save Belarus as an ally and friendly country? They hope that everything will be preserved, as it is now, impossible. Lukashenko is not eternal.
    Exclamations of couch residents about the fact that they do not know such a country, there are no Belarusians, etc. etc. immediately need to sweep as wrecking.
    Otherwise, you can not think further. The surroundings may differ, but the result will be one. Bad. And then...
    Then you have to remember the rake.
    1. avt
      avt 24 December 2016 17: 06
      +3
      Quote: Dekabrist
      It all depends on several factors.

      wassat laughing Well, yes, well, yes .... "Perestroika, then the factor, the reactor was blown up first ....."
  16. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 24 December 2016 15: 44
    +4
    These are vomit-me and us-Belarusians, the people of Belarus, the citizens of Belarus-REACHED !!!
    Belarus and Belarusians, citizens of Belarus, have long wanted to become part of Russia, to become Orthodox Russia, Russian Orthodox. And this is rogue, they got us. And Lukashenko got it. It's time for him to be part of Russia.
    1. Donhapa
      Donhapa 26 December 2016 08: 27
      +2
      Quote: Al. Peresvet

      ... Lukashenko got it. It is high time for him to join Russia.

      Yep ...
      So that the "Chosen of God", as in Russia, pilfered and destroyed the entire industry ...
  17. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 24 December 2016 15: 45
    +3
    Quote: Evdokim
    I agree completely. And the most stubborn, from ideologists, simply sent to the United States, so that they live happily overseas, let them feed them. bully

    Exactly for sure.
  18. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 24 December 2016 15: 47
    +5
    Quote: Teberii
    While Old Man in power in Belarus, everything will be calm, but it will not be eternal. Then, if everything is launched, the ideologists of the color revolutions are right there.

    That's to prevent this, for this, and therefore, Belarus needs to long ago enter back into Russia, to the Russians. Then Belarus will become Russia. And everything will be, tip-top.
    1. avt
      avt 24 December 2016 17: 00
      +3
      Quote: Al. Peresvet
      That's to prevent this, for this, and therefore, Belarus needs to long ago enter back into Russia, to the Russians. Then Belarus will become Russia. And everything will be, tip-top.

      request In general, Lukashenko came to power precisely by riding a wave of slogans of reunification with Russia. This is a medical fact. Actually, the people still had a common memory that he was, although small, but STATE-EDUCATING part of the Russian World of a ONE country! As well as the Ukrainians. But over time, ambitions took their toll and were not able to enter the KREMLIN, well, a folding chair is not provided for by the throne, But father went the same way as the Nazis who were all newly formed in the post-Soviet space. What actually degenerated into Lithuanian semi-Polish, the real one doesn’t concede. He didn’t begin to work like Tatarstan, delimiting his powers and assuring guarantees in which everything in Minsk would be perfect. Now, slowly but surely, the flowers bloomed and the berries swell. And as the lesson of the Nazi Ruin showed, where the degree of nationalism goes off scale, it’s cooler so far only Tajiks have figured out, and it’s not evening well in proportion to the population, then the berries from the nationalistic buttocks will not fall far.
      If we suddenly smell of sulfur in our house, we simply have to assume that a devil with horns has appeared somewhere nearby and take all measures, including organizing the production of holy water on an industrial scale. "
      Moreover, there are NOT VERY MUCH MEASURES in the post-Soviet republics!
  19. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 24 December 2016 15: 50
    +4
    Quote: Comrade_Stalin
    Will not skip. Ever since Soviet times, when I visited Ukraine and Belarus, I always noted what a striking difference the population of these supposedly fraternal republics make. If in Ukraine they always boasted of their Ukrainianness, their embroidered shirts, dances, mova, openly considered themselves a higher nation than the Russians, and called the Russians invaders behind their backs (and this despite the fact that I had not yet been to Western Ukraine), then in Belarus nothing I did not notice this, in Minsk, Brest and other Belarusian cities I felt the same as if I were in the cities of the RSFSR, not the BSSR. Have you read Babi Yar? So, although the author is a native of Kiev, his father is Russian, and his native language is also Russian, but as an ordinary reflective intellectual liberal, he constantly cries in the book, like Russian rot against Ukrainians, and carried out forced assimilation. He also describes how the people of Kiev enthusiastically greeted the Germans with bread and salt, rejoicing that the Bolshevik regime had finally disappeared, and the Germans were bringing them European values ​​and culture. Well, what is the difference between the horses of 1941 and the horses of 2013? The same dreams and aspirations that foreigners will bring them everything on a silver platter.

    If you let everything down and Belarus jumps up. You don’t know what you are saying.
  20. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 24 December 2016 15: 52
    +2
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    All of these pseudo-patriots - count! am Especially those that hobnob with pravosekah and fight in the Donbass!

    Yes. Immediately, not to count in the same USA or-to the west. They will not clean up for good, they will breed their heresy and disturb people, then you can count.
  21. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 24 December 2016 15: 55
    +3
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    We are already jumping, we have nothing to eat, no work, taxed like wolves on the hunt. Belarusians eat one common enemy!

    The only thing I agree with you.
    By the way, your pagony flag, I don’t like it.
    Better is the Russian tricolor as part of Russia. And the pagon is not the flag of Belarus. The flag of Belarus is such as it is now and the coat of arms is now.
    The country is changing, with a flag and a coat of arms. Belarus is 25 years old as Belarus. Changing a flag and a coat of arms will already be another country.
    But on the Russian Tricolor-Belarus, Belarusians, the people of Belarus, the citizens of Belarus are ready with joy. That Belarus-became part of Russia.
    1. Victor Minskiy
      Victor Minskiy 25 December 2016 19: 48
      +2
      I "like" yours absolutely indifferently, As a "hello" dog, my pursuit does not reflect my views, moods, etc. - just awa. On my diplomas, the pursuit, I swore and served in the pursuit ....... I am not against normal relations with Russia. ONLY FOR, but not in the form you write or speak for all Belarusians ... This is not so, and you yourself know it. There can be no entry into Russia))) Although there is one option)) This is if Belarus becomes part of Russia where Lukashenko will be president ........... well, this is a nightmare for everyone)
  22. ship
    ship 24 December 2016 16: 35
    +5
    All the main social and political processes in Belarus are under the control of Lukashenka (or he thinks so). The arrest of three journalists and accusation of "inciting ..." confirms which path Lukashenka chose. There is no need to guess.
    1. avt
      avt 24 December 2016 17: 10
      +5
      Quote: brod
      All the main socio-political processes in Belarus are controlled by Lukashenko (or he thinks so).

      good So far, yes, but the question is - Can they catch the moment when they slip out of hands ??? For the time being, the trifle that has been posting with such posters as on the photo article, as the Ruins' experience has shown, quite specific uncles and no less specific weight uncles from the local elite will try to work them out in their interests, just like Benya the right-wingers in Ruin during it. This is a dangerous game! negative
      1. ship
        ship 24 December 2016 21: 36
        +2
        "This is a dangerous game!"
        I agree. But Lukashenka doesn't seem to think so, since "hands" he still has those.
    2. Donhapa
      Donhapa 26 December 2016 08: 32
      +1
      Quote: brod
      All the main social and political processes in Belarus are under the control of Lukashenka (or he thinks so). The arrest of three journalists and accusation of "inciting ..." confirms which path Lukashenka chose. There is no need to guess.

      And in Russia, these very "processes" are not under Putin's control?
      Only industry is killed, and in Belarus all plants are operating, the property is mostly state-owned, and not mercenary thieves and usurious
  23. Sheikh
    Sheikh 25 December 2016 00: 11
    0
    Quote: Sheikh
    Quote: asher
    Zakaskat, and how! That Bandera, that Belarusians are Russian renegades.


    protest mood, as it seemed to me ....


    but in general, the whole will of God.
    Peace to all, love and kindness, may everyone be happy in the New Year

    ... and when it seems - it is necessary to be baptized. :-)
  24. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 25 December 2016 01: 01
    +1
    Quote: brod
    All the main social and political processes in Belarus are under the control of Lukashenka (or he thinks so). The arrest of three journalists and accusation of "inciting ..." confirms which path Lukashenka chose. There is no need to guess.

    This Lukashenko-people, the people-brought to the grave. THIS-Lukashenko-DO NOT NEED US WITH OUR ANTI-PEOPLE LAWS AGAINST PEOPLE! HE-PEOPLE IN THE TOMBLE-ON THAT LIGHT EXPLODED.
  25. valerei
    valerei 25 December 2016 17: 22
    +3
    The article is not provocative, but warning. Brainless butts who want to jump are available both in Belarus and here. Another thing is why the security service does not respond to all these "clubs"? If Sergeev spoke about the "clubs", then the corresponding comrades probably know about them, but do not react to suppress the infection in the bud. The old man is not eternal and he is simply obliged to leave the country without the Nazi infection. But, if the article is true and nothing is done to cleanse the infection, then it, this infection, suits the leadership of Belarus. Only such a conclusion can be drawn.
  26. valerei
    valerei 25 December 2016 17: 27
    +1
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    This Lukashenko-people, the people-brought to the grave. THIS-Lukashenko-DO NOT NEED US WITH OUR ANTI-PEOPLE LAWS AGAINST PEOPLE! HE-PEOPLE IN THE TOMBLE-ON THAT LIGHT EXPLODED.

    May be so. I do not live in Belarus and, perhaps, I don’t know much. But I know one thing: the path of Ukraine will be even more destructive, even catastrophic !! for Belarus. You don’t have to go far for an example: it is nearby, several hundred kilometers away.
  27. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 26 December 2016 16: 08
    +1
    Quote: valerei
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    This Lukashenko-people, the people-brought to the grave. THIS-Lukashenko-DO NOT NEED US WITH OUR ANTI-PEOPLE LAWS AGAINST PEOPLE! HE-PEOPLE IN THE TOMBLE-ON THAT LIGHT EXPLODED.

    May be so. I do not live in Belarus and, perhaps, I don’t know much. But I know one thing: the path of Ukraine will be even more destructive, even catastrophic !! for Belarus. You don’t have to go far for an example: it is nearby, several hundred kilometers away.

    The structure of Russia is the path of Belarus. And both Belarus and Belarusians and citizens of Belarus want and want to be part of Russia. Only Lukashenko doesn’t want. That’s why it’s necessary to be part of Russia so that we are one country. And no one here should jump and shout NATO, in the EU, against Russians, Russia.
  28. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 26 December 2016 16: 19
    +1
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    I "like" yours absolutely indifferently, As a "hello" dog, my pursuit does not reflect my views, moods, etc. - just awa. On my diplomas, the pursuit, I swore and served in the pursuit ....... I am not against normal relations with Russia. ONLY FOR, but not in the form you write or speak for all Belarusians ... This is not so, and you yourself know it. There can be no entry into Russia))) Although there is one option)) This is if Belarus becomes part of Russia where Lukashenko will be president ........... well, this is a nightmare for everyone)

    It doesn’t reflect. It reflects - you don’t like the current flag and the coat of arms of Belarus. And the people of Belarus like it. The present, the current flag and the coat of arms of Belarus are real. And not the pagon.
    Lukashenko will not be president in Russia. When Belarus becomes part of Russia, Putin will be president. Nobody will be behind Lukashenko, because HE HAS PUT THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE!
    A normal relationship with Russia is joining Russia. Then Belarus will be strong, rich, prosperous, smart and powerful. And not a small supranational state, small and impoverished and weak.
    1. Victor Minskiy
      Victor Minskiy 28 December 2016 13: 19
      0
      Not you, but YOU! And leave your childhood illusions with unification ..... although this is Above opinion and your right. Although in business it is called "travel at someone else's expense." And enough of this propaganda .............. which has only been increasing in recent years. And if you, as a Belarusian, consider yourself "a small super-state, small and poor and weak" - the end of your quote. Then learn, grow and develop, and do not look for freebies ... it will not be. Each question has its own price!
      1. Al. Peresvet
        Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 01: 05
        0
        And what do you not like when I say, are you. Are you proud, or is this not a worthy treatment? I-Belarusians. All Belarusians want to live well and peacefully. And so that their children live well and peacefully. And their grandchildren and granddaughters .In the world, in abundance, in defense. And do not forever be afraid that someone will come and kill us all or conquer us. And do not be forever poor, sit on the same potatoes. Freebies, no one is looking. We work well. Only this is not a freebie, but sober thinking about our lives and the lives of our children and Belarus as a whole. So that we, our children, grandchildren and granddaughters, and Belarus itself, will flourish, live in peace and prosperity. it’s possible only by becoming a strong and rich, smart and beautiful country-Russia, the Empire of Good. That is, reunite back-to your own country-to Russia. And not to be-underdeveloped under-state, forever afraid that no one would capture, not destroy circle to everyone bending down and giving a point. To the poor, small and poor. And weak rickets, who, in three days, will be destroyed and turned into ashes. And if they are not turned into ashes, they will impose their will and force them to suck their penis or point to suck , or a bucket to eat theirs.
  29. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 01: 25
    +1
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Not you, but YOU! And leave your childhood illusions with unification ..... although this is Above opinion and your right. Although in business it is called "travel at someone else's expense." And enough of this propaganda .............. which has only been increasing in recent years. And if you, as a Belarusian, consider yourself "a small super-state, small and poor and weak" - the end of your quote. Then learn, grow and develop, and do not look for freebies ... it will not be. Each question has its own price!

    It has long been estimated by economists that the state can survive and live well and develop with a population of 300.000.000. Those who can provide themselves:
    1) Human reserves. Workers-for building and working, building factories, farms, collective farms, institutes, scientists, doctors and so on. For the Defenders of the country: from the external threat and traitors of the country: army. Soldiers, FSB, special anti-terrorist units and others.
    2) Resources: minerals, the periodic table — so that from these resources — it is possible to create, create, build.
    3) Large territories, so that there is where to place all this + large territories for agriculture, livestock breeding, factories, factories, military buildings and so on.
    4) A strong, intelligent, powerful army, capable of protecting such a country, from any aggressor.
    5) Because of the huge, large territory-Russia-even a couple of pairs of nuclear bombs cannot be bombed-because of the huge and large territory. Russia-will quickly throw nuclear attackers on Russia-because-Russia is larger in size.
    These countries include Russia, the USA, China, Turkey. Descending.
    The fate of small countries is to be colonies of these countries, or to be conquered by these countries and destroyed. Either to merge with these countries to become one, and thus grow stronger and stronger. The Russians and Russia offer to become part of Russia - to become Russia , Russians, thereby, grow stronger, become a powerful country. Other countries, do not offer this. The United States will never take us into the United States, will not let us print the dollar, we will not have one currency, the same prices, salaries, some troops .We will be a colony of the United States. the European Union breaks up for the same reason, it says there that it is the European Union, however, each country is on its own. There are no unified troops, there are no uniform prices and salaries.
    The only way Belarus can survive and become stronger is to become part of Russia - to become a strong and powerful Russia. From a small, impoverished, weak Belarus that can be conquered within a period of three days to a month, depending on which country is attacking, it will turn into a superpower -with huge resources, vast territories, a strong army, one big Russian people. Where resources and wealth are distributed evenly throughout Russia. Where Belarusians will become equal, one Russian people-Russians. The whole country-Russia-will be for all Russian the people of Russia, for the whole people of Russia.
    Moreover, we have Russian language, Orthodox faith. We alone understand one thing. WE ARE ALL TIME-TOGETHER-ONE COUNTRY-ANCIENT RUSSIA, RUSSIAN EMPIRE, USSR. -not bud.Ale on yo-uho and so-nihto not gavoryts.
    This is called - not occupation - but strengthening and prosperity, reliable protection of peace and good.
    In all other cases, Belarus is waiting for death. Death is either in a colony, or in capture and destruction by another state.
    US-SPECIAL AND ARTIFICIAL-SHARED-TO MANAGE US. IN YOUR COUNTRY-USA-US WILL NOT TAKE US-WE WILL NOT HAVE ONE CURRENCY, ONE PRICES. WHY US-DO NOT SHARE ???
    1. Victor Minskiy
      Victor Minskiy 29 December 2016 12: 48
      0
      Explain from your point of view such an economic phenomenon as South Korea and North Korea.
      1. Al. Peresvet
        Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 19: 46
        +1
        Explain from your point of view such an economic phenomenon as the current ass in Belarus. In the Baltic, in Britain, France. In the EU zone. Britain's exit from the EU, the desire to leave the EU-France. Discontent of their residents and citizens. Moving Russian Germans-back to Russia.
  30. Victor Minskiy
    Victor Minskiy 29 December 2016 11: 59
    0
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    It has long been estimated by economists that the state can survive and live well and develop with a population of 300.000.000. Those who can provide themselves:


    Dear Belarusian, fellow countryman! Tell this parable to the citizens of Luxembourg)))))))))))))))))) Maybe they don't know something about their unhappy life. P / s You are not reading those economists. In your successful equation, the result comes first, without numerators and denominators! And about pride and "YOU". there is no pride here))), this is simple respect for the opponent. Yes, and please, drop the reference where YOU found such interesting facts, I want to get acquainted with them in full context - academic interest!
  31. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 18: 50
    0
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Explain from your point of view such an economic phenomenon as South Korea and North Korea.

    North Korea, as Belarus is now. North Korea is not part of Russia. + Sanctions are imposed against North Korea. And what about South Korea ??? The US military base is there.
  32. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 19: 01
    0
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Quote: Al. Peresvet
    It has long been estimated by economists that the state can survive and live well and develop with a population of 300.000.000. Those who can provide themselves:


    Dear Belarusian, fellow countryman! Tell this parable to the citizens of Luxembourg)))))))))))))))))) Maybe they don't know something about their unhappy life. P / s You are not reading those economists. In your successful equation, the result comes first, without numerators and denominators! And about pride and "YOU". there is no pride here))), this is simple respect for the opponent. Yes, and please, drop the reference where YOU found such interesting facts, I want to get acquainted with them in full context - academic interest!

    Prove the opposite. These facts have been calculated by US economists. It is not for nothing that the United States doesn’t share, but only others. What about Luxembourg is a member of NATO. Offshore zones of the United States and Western countries. And that means a colony of the United States. It borders with Belgium, France, Germany. Without the resources of Russia, the whole of Europe and Luxembourg will be disgraced.
    Belarus is not a member of NATO, and in Belarus, offshore grandmothers of Americans are not laundered.
    And Belarus will never be in the EU and NATO.
  33. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 19: 04
    0
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Explain from your point of view such an economic phenomenon as South Korea and North Korea.

    Explain your phenomenon of the Baltic, Yugoslavia, Syria, Ukraine, Yemen, Somalia, Ira
    on, Afghanistan.
  34. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 19: 19
    +1
    Quote: VictorMinskiy
    Explain from your point of view such an economic phenomenon as South Korea and North Korea.

    Why separate from a strong, powerful, protected, wealthy country-Russia — when can this be used on an equal footing and duty — with the Russians as the Russian people ?? Even your president or my grandson can become the president of Russia. If he guards, defends, strengthens, takes care of Orthodox Russia, Russian Orthodox, the people of Russia.
    WHY DON'T YOURSELF SAVE A FINGER FROM THE BODY AND BE Proud BEFORE THE REST OF THE BODY: "LOOK WHAT SMALL, YES REMOTE!" or you don’t have the resources, you are all trembling and afraid, and you bow to everyone in a circle and please: you suck or substitute a point. Or then, you beg for the same resources from Russia, saying: well, we are brothers, oklmn, we are brothers, but we want to live separately! And the resources, you must supply us, free of charge or well, at very low prices. And you must protect us. And we will do whatever we want!

    With such success, Minsk can be disconnected from Belarus, and say, but the citizens of Luxembourg live by evaluating the halaso. Therefore, Minsk will live by evaluating the halas separately from Belarus.

    How stupid you are. A small state — unable to provide for itself necessary — will be conquered and enslaved. Because it has no strong army that can defend it; a strong army, you need to feed. And to feed, in addition to potatoes, you also need to provide weapons. modern equipment, people, resources. A weapon, you need to do something. Refuel, fuel. A soldier needs to be heated, the population, citizens of Belarus .
    Belarus is now in such an asshole, because Belarus, except for potatoes, has no nichrome. And Belarus cannot contain a large army to protect its citizens. Belarus is not only not only an army cannot contain, Belarus cannot contain its citizens. the current crisis in Belarus testifies very well. And there is no need to argue that this is not because of this.
    You are just stubborn, who does not see the benefit of being a strong, prosperous, protected, smart country with all the prerequisites and opportunities for this. No, you stubbornly talk about some kind of "independence". Some of the little states, the poor and the weak cannot be. They cannot provide their protection, because they cannot provide the maintenance of a good army, because they do not have the resources.
    That's why we are now in such an asshole.
    What is your Luxembourg ?? Britain, why has left the EU ??? Why does he want to leave the EU and NATO-France ??? Why is a woman-candidate with these slogans very popular in France, because this is all NOT ONE ONE STATE, BUT EVERYONE MYSELF. THEREFORE, THEM HAS BEGUN AN ASS THERE. THEREFORE, THEIR SALES FELL AND THE UNEMPLOYMENT, AND THEREFORE, CITIZENS ARE NOT SATISFIED. Because, the EU is not one country, not one people, but each on its own.
    You ask the Germans, if they were in Belarus, well, instead of Belarus, so that they were here, would they not unite with Russia ???? Yes, with joy and a long time!
    This is precisely what the associations of Germans and Russians are afraid of the United States, and not only that.
    1. Al. Peresvet
      Al. Peresvet 29 December 2016 19: 39
      +1
      VictorMinskiy, well, listen, there are no such idiots in Belarus. Cut off a finger and be proud of some fictitious "independence." And then, in their helplessness, blame the Russians, that it is they who are to blame, that they do not give Belarus, Belarusians brotherly so, all the resources. It's good that they are still guarded. And then, long ago, Belarus would have had some sort of Somalia. Or they would have stood like those psheki-under the cap of the amerikosov and would fly like cannon flesh-all over the planet in hot spots- for the shit of the United States and their geopolitical interests. Instead of them. And most likely, what is most plausible, we would have simply been driven by cannon flesh, like lambs, to fight for slaughter against the Russians, Russia, the people of Russia, as they are now being driven to slaughter the Ukrainians. Until the last Belarusian ...