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Kyiv City Council refused to rename Vatutin Avenue to Shukhevych Avenue.

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Kiev City Council refused to rename Vatutin Avenue.


Kyiv City Council refused to rename Vatutin Avenue to Shukhevych Avenue.


Recall that the Ukrainian radicals demanded to assign the name of the leader of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army Roman Shukhevych to the avenue.

To rename the avenue bearing the name of the legendary commander of the Great Patriotic War, the Kiev City Council did not have enough 20 votes. Deputies from the radical party “Freedom”, as well as from “Self-help”, actively supported the renaming. After the failure of their initiative, representatives of the radical organizations of Ukraine declared that the Kyiv City Council “sabotage the law on de-communization and de-Sovietisation”. This caused a flurry of criticism towards the deputies who voted against the initiative from representatives of the so-called Maidan public. The radicals promised "to deal with everyone who voted against." Ukraine - Tse Europe ...

It should be noted that Roman Shukhevych became the “leader” of the so-called Ukrainian Insurgent Army in 1944. Prior to that, he swore allegiance to Hitler Germany and served in the armed forces and police units of the Third Reich. In particular, since November 1941, with the rank of Hauptsturmführer, he was the deputy commander of the 201 th battalion of security police.
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  1. Titsen
    Titsen 23 December 2016 07: 02 New
    25
    In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

    Not all Ukrainians reforged in ukrov!
    1. The black
      The black 23 December 2016 07: 09 New
      26
      Quote: Titsen
      In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

      Not all Ukrainians reforged in ukrov!

      What is the action there? Do you believe in the decency of the current Kiev City Council? .... Do not forget that the same City Council almost unanimously voted for Bandera Avenue ... the political situation just changed a little ... changed shoes ...
      1. Rom14
        Rom14 23 December 2016 07: 20 New
        +5
        You are wrong, there are more People and common sense, otherwise Yeltsin’s evil would have destroyed us in the 90s ... Now it comes to the Ukrainians what ... they got into.
        1. The black
          The black 23 December 2016 07: 24 New
          11
          Quote: Rom14
          You are wrong, there are more People and common sense, otherwise Yeltsin’s evil would have destroyed us in the 90s ... Now it comes to the Ukrainians what ... they got into.

          It was not the Ukrainians who voted, but the Kiev City Council .... in the same composition as for Bandera Ave. voted .... so do not heroize and praise them here ...
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 23 December 2016 16: 53 New
            +9
            Ukrainians have long understood and know everything. But what their elite carries ...
        2. Lukich
          Lukich 23 December 2016 08: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Rom14
          Now it comes to the Ukrainians what kind of ... they hit.


          So, the Kiev resident Alexander Kabanov post on the Web a poem of his own composition, which filled with resentment, disappointment and indignation ....
          Source: https://newinform.com/39424-kievskii-poet-kabanov
          -o-maidane-vlozhili-vse-i-prosrali-vse
      2. Vitalson
        Vitalson 23 December 2016 07: 58 New
        +2
        Then what happened to them now? Really, who brought Russian-made Coca-Cola to the meeting instead of American?
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 23 December 2016 08: 02 New
        +9
        Absolutely agree. The fact that there are no decent people at the top of the Ukrainian government, that's for sure, but some who are more savvy, are already beginning to understand that those times are not beyond the horizon when they will be asked and will have to answer in full. And they have done so much that they will not get off with trash cans. They "cardboard fools" thought they had come forever, and in addition they boasted with might and main.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 23 December 2016 07: 22 New
      +5
      We should expect the arson of the City Council along with lustration ... There is nothing to rejoice about, they will put pressure on them and rename them .. Although, by order of Parasha ..
      Quote: Titsen
      In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

      Not all Ukrainians reforged in ukrov!
      1. t-62
        t-62 23 December 2016 07: 58 New
        13
        Now this is not a heroic act - it is called rats fleeing a ship. in 14, my relative rode a minibus with a St. George ribbon in Kiev, and these rats, to put it mildly, condemned. it was a heroic act
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 23 December 2016 07: 45 New
      24
      Recall that the Ukrainian radicals demanded to assign the name of the leader of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army Roman Shukhevych to the avenue.

      But sometime in Kiev you can hear such a dialogue:
    4. Smog
      Smog 23 December 2016 07: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: Titsen
      In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

      Not all Ukrainians reforged in ukrov!


      They rather wait, and suddenly Trump will be against ........
    5. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 December 2016 08: 02 New
      13
      Quote: Titsen
      In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

      But let's see how they still fight among themselves. It will be a laugh if the right-wing residents of the Kiev City Council are burned down as the House of Trade Unions in Odessa. They didn’t want to quarter right-sided people right away for Odessa - get it, sign ... And they really have heroes ... Look, yesterday only on YouTube watched Solovyov, poor, at Slava-Globus for ten minutes, could not find out - a hero Shukhevych or not. I couldn't. Well, you can understand Slava - she's huffing, little soul. And you cannot say "yes" - they will peck here, and "no" is also impossible - they will generally be killed there. As a result, he said "historical character" laughing Also to me, "character" ..... Ugh, b ........... I only forgive the German form for Stirlitz ....
    6. Vend
      Vend 23 December 2016 10: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Titsen
      In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

      Not all Ukrainians reforged in ukrov!

      Yes, unexpectedly for Svidomo. Someone else can resist insanity. This makes me happy
    7. Agent_017
      Agent_017 23 December 2016 14: 49 New
      +1
      I totally agree. There are still people left! And the orcs themselves are afraid of Vatutin N.F. for his bright soul is immortal. The Light Forces will not let evil happen, for the enemy will be defeated ..
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 December 2016 07: 05 New
    +3
    the bandits wanted to name the avenue, after the bandits. angry
    1. Yuri from Volgograd
      Yuri from Volgograd 23 December 2016 07: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      the bandits wanted to name the avenue, after the bandits. angry

      Not bandits, but the most ordinary fascist.
      Bandiga sounds like a diminutive caressing, but I would call simply dishonesty.
  3. izya top
    izya top 23 December 2016 07: 06 New
    19
    with the inborn ability to change shoes in a jump, horses recklessly return the old names and restore monuments to Lenin
    1. The black
      The black 23 December 2016 07: 13 New
      21
      Well, the destruction of the monuments to Lenin has its own explanation. Ukrainians have a legend that under one of the monuments to Lenin there is a visa-free portal to Europe .. wassat laughing
      1. izya top
        izya top 23 December 2016 07: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Black
        visa-free portal to Europe

        under the new Chernobyl arch, it was specially erected so that potential cyborgs would not be washed away
  4. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 23 December 2016 07: 10 New
    +4
    Skakly in horror.
    "For scho we stood on the Maidan ???"
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 23 December 2016 07: 29 New
      +9
      And why in Moscow, in the 90s, the silos galloped on the square and shot the White House from a tank ??? And God forbid us that when "Yeltsin" or "Gorbach" comes to power again ..........
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 December 2016 08: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Rom14
        And for what in Moscow, in the 90's, they were jumping on the square and they shot the white house from the tank ???

        All my life after 91 I thanked fate for serving at that time VERY far from Moscow. Otherwise, they would certainly be driven there. It’s good that the tank’s mechanic’s driver or a simple paratrooper soldier decide for him. And I would have to decide. And I’m sure that I wouldn’t like my decision to this evil crowd led by Alkash Svedlovsky ... And so ... Quietly, from a hangover, cooked chicken soup on an electric stove, watched TV and was filled with the thought that there was still going on in Moscow worse than in my head with a hangover. I then restored my health under soup, but in Moscow and in the whole country it got even worse ...
        1. KUOLEMA
          KUOLEMA 23 December 2016 14: 20 New
          +1
          Well, in 93, there were zarobitchans in the Parliament who would like to know what kind of tour the devils had prepared for them in hell
      2. Elevator in the building
        Elevator in the building 24 December 2016 01: 20 New
        +1
        and our "most correct Orthodox patriots" do not remember this, there was not even a mustache, and whoever reminds us how "fun" we had is a liberal and an agent of the "404 State Department." We did not go "on the edge", did not shoot our citizens with tanks in our own capital, our "intelligentsia" with foam did not call "Saint Yeltsin" to bury the "bloody commies", and the constitution did not change to please the "democracy" that had seized power. There was no such thing: all fairy tales, libel and lies from propaganda. And all Ukrainians are degenerates and traitors, all without exception, that's all, and have always been like that. One thing is not clear how these scraps of the great Russian tribe managed to fight along with the Russians and earn so many awards and titles in the Great War. It was not otherwise in the headquarters, and they rewarded each other. Well, they destroyed the same themselves, and then they wrote off the Germans, but how else - after all, opportunists, they lived only by that ... And now in the civil war, all Ukrainians are only on the side of the Allied Forces, this is known to every local general, and they only fight the Nazis Orthodox Russians .. I was fed up with statements of this kind, Eastern Ukrainians are flesh of flesh, we Russians, and what we have done to them is our misfortune. And it is not necessary to escalate, but to stigmatize, finding those points that in the future will allow to cure the infected and return OUR territories and our people.
  5. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 23 December 2016 07: 18 New
    +3
    The main skill for a politician is to keep his nose in the wind. Kievans will not refuse this. Smells a cat where fat is dropped.
  6. tinibar
    tinibar 23 December 2016 07: 34 New
    +5
    Quote: Black
    Quote: Titsen
    In modern Ukraine, this is a heroic act.

    Not all Ukrainians reforged in ukrov!

    What is the action there? Do you believe in the decency of the current Kiev City Council? .... Do not forget that the same City Council almost unanimously voted for Bandera Avenue ... the political situation just changed a little ... changed shoes ...

    Or maybe they just didn’t know who Vatutin was ...
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 December 2016 08: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: tinibar
      Or maybe they just didn’t know who Vatutin was ...

      Maybe they thought what kind of writer? I don’t know ... Here, too, it is necessary to understand - what if Svidomo is not enough? For me, a riddle is some kind of deed. I’ll be thinking all day ... laughing Until the evening. And in the evening in the news, I think, they will tell why this happened. I think that by evening the pravoseki will bring clarity to the situation - either they will beat someone, or set fire to something - and everything will fall into place. I don’t think pravoseki just like that ...
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 December 2016 07: 37 New
    +2
    Radicals promised to "deal with everyone who voted against"

    But this behind them (radicals) will not rust. It is possible that a series of "strange" events will soon begin. This is how they live - from an outstretched hand to the EU for alms, to bullying and murder on their territory.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 December 2016 08: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      So they live - from an outstretched hand to the EU for alms, to bullying and killings on its territory.

      So European is a democratic country. In any talk show political, slobbery slobbery jumps that we have a totalitarian country, that we are all drugged by Putin’s propaganda, that they have 8,635 times more democracy and human rights than ours. Well, the stump is clear where we are before them ... We even have brains with some suspicious convolutions cut up .....
  8. acrshooter
    acrshooter 23 December 2016 07: 37 New
    +7
    For your information:
    The picture of the clash is visible from a memorandum drawn up on March 6, 1944 by the head of the Smersh Counterintelligence Directorate of the 1st Ukrainian Front, Major General N. Osetrov.
    The note states that “on February 29, 1944, N. F. Vatutin left Rovno (where the headquarters of the 13th Army of Lieutenant General N. P. Pukhov was then located) to Slavuta - to the headquarters of the 60th Army of Lieutenant General I. D. Chernyakhovsky. However, at about 19.00, at the entrance to the village of Milyatin, Ostrozhsky district, Rivne region, cars fell under the fire of an UPA sabotage group of 100-200 people.
    "N.F. Vatutin, having jumped out of the car, joined the officers in an exchange of fire, during which he was seriously wounded in the thigh."
    Sturgeons noted the extremely high activity of armed nationalist groups in the south of the Rivne region, where these groups enjoyed the support of the local population.
    According to the head of the Smersh Counterintelligence Division of the 13th Army, M.P. Aleksandrov, a captured rebel from hundreds of Zeleny operating in the Milyatin region testified that fighters of that hundred (which were 80-90 people that day) participated in the clash. robbed an ambush near the village of the Red Army convoy); however, the reliability of these testimonies raises serious doubts among historians.
    It is noteworthy that the commander moved along a previously unexplored route without escorting his platoon of guards sent earlier on another road. The group that organized the shelling of the headquarters group intercepted the road several hours before, having shot a convoy with mines and an army rear lorry. Having the opportunity to retreat, the headquarters group nevertheless entered into a shootout, which ultimately led to the injury of Vatutin.
    A seriously wounded military commander was taken to a Kiev hospital by train. The best doctors were called to Kiev, among them the chief surgeon of the Red Army N. N. Burdenko. Vatutin received a through thigh injury with bone fragmentation. Despite surgical intervention and the use of the latest penicillin during treatment, Vatutin developed gas gangrene. A consultation of doctors led by Professor Shamov proposed amputation as the only means of saving the wounded, but Vatutin refused. It was not possible to save Vatutin, and on April 15, 1944, he died in the hospital from blood poisoning.
    On April 17, Army General N.F. Vatutin was buried in Kiev, at the Mariinsky Park. At the funeral, along with the military leaders and leaders of Soviet Ukraine, there were children of Vatutin, his wife Tatyana Romanovna and mother Vera Efimovna (in February her son Afanasy died from battle wounds, the youngest son Fedor died at the front in March, and now she buried her third son) . On the day of the funeral, Moscow gave the last honor to the commander with 24 artillery volleys.
    In January 1948, a monument with a total height of 8,55 m was erected on his grave with an inscription in Ukrainian: “To the Hero of the Soviet Union, General Vatutin from the Ukrainian people” (sculptor E. V. Vuchetich, architect Y. B. Belopolsky).
    In March 2015, in connection with the events in Ukraine, the 85-year-old daughter of Vatutin Elena asked the Russian authorities to transfer the ashes of the commander from Kiev to the Federal War Memorial Cemetery in Mytishchi.
  9. Sergey F
    Sergey F 23 December 2016 07: 49 New
    +1
    Power in Ukraine is not power, it is an echo of American rule.
    I am very surprised, although very happy, by the decision of the Kiev City Council. Are there still smart and sane heads in the Kiev authorities? But this is a reason for the Ukrainian "Natsik" to start a "witch hunt"!
    I would like to believe that in Ukraine not everyone is scared by the fascist manners of the Ukrainian government!
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 December 2016 07: 55 New
    +3
    Is it just that the power in America has changed, and Shukhevych has become out of fashion? Not in trend, as they say now. It's just that in the Kiev Council there are absolutely frostbitten ones, and there are not quite those who try to keep their "nose down the wind".
  11. Vitalson
    Vitalson 23 December 2016 07: 56 New
    0
    The horses are strained
  12. Orionvit
    Orionvit 23 December 2016 08: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: izya top
    with the inborn ability to change shoes in a jump, horses recklessly return the old names and restore monuments to Lenin

    It will become of them. And who will be responsible for the war, for the destroyed country? Pope? Now they will quickly begin to remove their posts from social networks, where they boasted about who hates Russians and Russia more, or who is more Ukrainian, or who killed more separatists. Only late, everything is already fixed, documented and filed. The decision of the Kiev City Council is the first sign that the smartest already feel the beginning of a great end.
  13. Egoza
    Egoza 23 December 2016 08: 55 New
    0
    Well, it still doesn’t reach some, and for the sake of Europe ....
    Ukraine should legislatively support the initiative of Deputy Minister for European Integration Sergey Petukhov, who proposed migrants to settle in Ukraine for obtaining a visa-free regime with the EU, writes Kiev weekly “Business Capital”. The publication believes that refugees who have committed criminal offenses in the EU should be transferred to serve their sentences and further resettlement in Ukraine. “Ukraine amnesty them, but subject to settlement in the gray zone between the parties to the confrontation in the conflict in the Donbass. After all, this is Ukrainian territory. They receive an interest-free loan for the purchase of small arms and ammunition, which in the future (subject to settlement conditions) can even be written off from them. Weapons, of course, are provided to them for self-defense, and what, besides the machine guns, they will get on the spot - this is their concern. In the end, is there anything you can buy at a Voentorg around the corner? They have no access to the West. The red line is clearly marked on the map, for the attempt to cross which a car is assigned, sufficient to discourage the desire to cross it. But in the advance to the East there are no restrictions. And even support with art is possible - if some villains offend peaceful refugees who are forced to protect their lives. Thus, solving the European problem with refugees prone to crime and violence will at the same time create a good counterbalance to Russian aggression, ”the publication notes. “What peaceful refugees are doing in the territory that is not controlled by the constitutional authorities of Ukraine should not, by and large, be of interest to the Ukrainian authorities,” the Ukrainian weekly continues. - The main thing is that they do not try to cross the red line. Those of them who will cooperate with the Ukrainian authorities on an ongoing basis, informing them, for example, of the situation in the territory seized by the terrorists, can go to the designated rendezvous points and get there everything they need - food, weapons (to the extent permitted for sale by private persons, possibly with some exceptions, but all within the framework of the law), medical assistance, communications, etc. If refugees detain criminals hiding in Ukraine uncontrolled territory, it’s an honor and, naturally, materially e reward. If the peaceful Ukrainian population living in territories not controlled by Ukraine is dissatisfied with something (including, possibly, the manner of refugees), it can go into the territory under the authority of Ukraine and be placed in temporary camps (and filtering, of course). Funds for organizing such camps with acceptable living conditions in them may well be allocated by the EU in one package with funds for adaptation of refugees. Refugees loyal to the Ukrainian authorities should be recognized as a priori right in any conflict that arose in the territories not controlled by Ukraine with their participation. This provision should be enshrined in a special law. ”
  14. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 23 December 2016 09: 00 New
    +1
    Respect and respect to the deputies of the City Council of Kiev, who voted against. At this time, it costs a lot, so not everything is lost. Taking off my hat... hi
  15. Monarchist
    Monarchist 23 December 2016 09: 07 New
    0
    "Samoposch" is an ungrateful herd, and the shepherd will give it for a bottle. We must immortalize the names of Nuland and the black orangutan.
  16. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 December 2016 09: 23 New
    +1
    The deputies stopped an attempt to refute the calculations of their own historians, who claim that Ukraine was liberated from the fascists by the Ukrainian Army. After all, it was Vatutin and his front that previously played a decisive role in the liberation of Kiev in their opuses (which is not far from the truth). And here's another interesting "fact" -
    ... after the liberation of Kiev Vatutin in a whisper told his adjutant that in fact is a Ukrainian named "Vatutya", and ordered him to cross the front to Roman Shukhevych - to agree on a joint struggle against Stalinism and Hitlerism.
    http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/herodot_10/post3
    61579034
  17. Appraiser
    Appraiser 23 December 2016 14: 20 New
    0
    Absolutely in Ukraine! It remains to rename the streets in Kiev in the name of Hitler and Goebels .... am
  18. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 23 December 2016 14: 30 New
    0
    Not so simple with Shukhevych.
    Ah, with the monument to Vatutin ...
    The current cold can cool any hot head!
  19. koshmarik
    koshmarik 23 December 2016 20: 33 New
    +1
    Ukrainians begin to see clearly. I think the ice has broken.