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Fights go all along the line of contact in the area of ​​Debaltseve

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Disturbing news continue to come from the conflict zone in the Donbass. The night before, a representative of the people's militia of the LPR reported that the Ukrainian security forces attempted to break through the contact line in the area of ​​Kalinovka and Logvinovo.


Lugansk Information Center continues to report on the state of affairs at the line of contact. According to the Luhansk Information Center, with reference to the military command, full-scale battles resumed in the Debaltseve area. The submission says that the Kiev armed forces attacked the positions of the troops of the people's republics in several directions at once using large-caliber artillery pieces.

Donetsk News Agency, referring to the official representative of the Armed Forces of the LNR, Colonel Edward Basurin, reports a record number of shelling for the last time from the Ukrainian side. This number is close to 1700. At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces tie up heavy-duty vehicles, including the Grazo, Smerch MLRS and Gvozdika self-propelled howitzers, to the places of the fighting.

Basurin:
Data on violations of the Minsk agreements were transferred to representatives of the JCCC and the OSCE mission.




The official representative of the people's militia of the LPR, Major Andrei Marochko, reports that the battles are currently taking place along the entire contact line in the Debaltseve area.

Marochko:
Fighters of the people's militia of the LPR do not allow the enemy to advance to settlements. The APU uses 152 and 122 mm artillery, mortars and heavy equipment.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 19 December 2016 15: 56
    +37
    Well, here's Obama's "farewell gift" ...
    1. RDX
      RDX 19 December 2016 16: 06
      +15
      Abscess, sooner or later break through
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 19 December 2016 16: 13
        +39
        Yes, it has already broken through, it’s time to operate, clean, and drain.
        I do not exclude that something will have to be amputated
        1. Smog
          Smog 19 December 2016 16: 15
          +17
          Only cut, mercilessly, it is better with the "head".
          1. cniza
            cniza 19 December 2016 16: 20
            +6
            A lot of conflicting information, I would like to hear from our members of the forum, what is happening there? very anxious.
            1. Gerasim Donskoy
              Gerasim Donskoy 19 December 2016 16: 26
              +9
              Go to the site "The Voice of Sevastopol" - a minute-by-minute feed of events, or Antimaydan, etc. and read. This is much more accurate information than the chatter on the forums.
          2. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 19 December 2016 16: 24
            +13
            Kostya, hi! drinks hi Here are the goats! From Debaltseve to Zorinsk where my dad was born, you can add! Twares und Mutantes am
            1. cniza
              cniza 19 December 2016 16: 32
              +4
              Pasha, I myself was born in Gorlovka and this also bothers me, although I have not been there since 1968.
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 19 December 2016 16: 40
                +9
                I was there in 1995. Come on, Victor, how hard it is for me to look at this shit ...
            2. Smog
              Smog 19 December 2016 16: 44
              +8
              Pasha, great. soldier I can imagine how you feel when your homelands are filled with shells. And I am in Russian- T BARI, nonhumans !!!!!!
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 19 December 2016 17: 00
                +7
                Kostya! Thank you buddy! drinks drinks hi You understood me correctly! But I can’t do anything - according to our laws, they will put me in jail.
            3. vovanpain
              vovanpain 19 December 2016 17: 03
              +11
              Quote: cniza
              I would like to hear from our members of the forum what is happening there? very anxious.

              On the morning of December 19, the Armed Forces of Ukraine resumed attempts to break through several sections of the contact line in the Debaltseve region, where they suffered significant losses last night: dozens of dead and wounded.
              “The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to attempt to break through our defenses, however, the People’s Militia forces successfully nip them,” said Major Andrei Marochko, spokesman for the People’s Militia of the LPR
              “The enemy suffers losses, but, despite this, tries to break through at once on several sections of the contact line, including in the Kalinovka area,” he added.
              It is known that, as of 11 a.m. on December 19, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to shell the LPR People’s Police positions at Kalinovka and Logvinovo from artillery pieces.
              Recall, as previously reported, on Sunday, December 18, the units of the 54th brigade of the Armed Forces after artillery preparation (using 122-mm and 152-mm heavy artillery prohibited by the Minsk agreements) tried to break through from the village of Lugansk to the area of ​​the village of Kalinovka.
              At the same time, for the transfer of the assault group, the Ukrainian side decided to use BMPs, which turned out to be useless. Such an erroneous move cost Kiev dozens of servicemen of the 54th brigade killed and wounded ...
              Details: http://novoros-news.com/news/vsu-prodolzhayut-pop
              ytki-proryva-u-debalcevo.
              Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
              Go to the site "Voice of Sevastopol"

              A colleague, by the way, the news on VO is from there.voicesevas.ru / news / 28275-boi-idut-vdol-vsey-
              linii-soprikosnoveniya-v-rayone-debalcevo.html. Best regards, Colleagues. hi
              1. Gerasim Donskoy
                Gerasim Donskoy 19 December 2016 18: 07
                +6
                In the media, observers are now talking about this topic and explain the activity of the Armed Forces in this direction as drunk commanders, evil terbats and nonsense.
                Debaltseve itself and the Kharkov-Debaltseve-Rostov highway are the border flanks that connect the DPR and LPR. At the General Staff Department, military experts and Western advisers believe that this direction is the most advantageous for breaking through the defense of the DLNR from North to South. Because APU and rushing through the railway station Logvinovo - Kalinovka. By the way, they know this route well, that’s how they fled the boiler in February 2015
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 19 December 2016 18: 25
                  +11
                  In the media, observers are now talking about this topic and explain the activity of the Armed Forces in this direction as drunk commanders, evil terbats and nonsense.

                  Drunk commanders - this is just a convenient excuse that there would be someone to pack in jail, if that ..
                  Here the other day, the commander of the US armed forces in Europe, General Curtis Scaraotti personally visited the ATO zone in the Luhansk region. And a week did not pass after the visit, as the APU climbed over the cots. Coincidence? I don’t think ..........
                  1. vovanpain
                    vovanpain 19 December 2016 18: 45
                    +10
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    Here the other day, the commander of the US armed forces in Europe, General Curtis Scaraotti personally visited the ATO zone in the Luhansk region

                    Well, a colleague amersky drone did not fly in vain over the Donbass for nothing .topwar.ru / 104833-smi-strategicheskiy-bp
                    la-rq-4a-global-hawk-vvs-ssha-poyavilsya-nad-done
                    ckim-regionom.html
          3. Marksman
            Marksman 19 December 2016 18: 43
            +1
            Spirits write that they landed our helicopter over T4. Does anyone have info? ...
        2. The black
          The black 19 December 2016 17: 39
          +5
          It seems that the main task set by Poroshenko's "American colleagues" is the complete genocide of the Slavs. And it doesn't matter whether it is a militia, civilians or their own population. The main thing is more deaths.
        3. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 19 December 2016 18: 21
          0
          Quote: hirurg
          I do not exclude that something will have to be amputated

          Dull scissors, trimmed request yes
      2. Monos
        Monos 19 December 2016 16: 14
        +18
        Dill has such a tradition to bury chubates near Debaltseve on New Year's Eve.
      3. 210ox
        210ox 19 December 2016 16: 16
        +17
        Hands are untied? The Minsk agreement is buried? Let us look at the reaction in the Kremlin. Again, they will probably exhort and entreat. .. It is necessary to cleanse Donetina and the Luhansk region from evil spirits.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 19 December 2016 17: 12
          +13
          Quote: 210ox
          It is necessary to cleanse Donetina and the Luhansk region from evil spirits.

          In Odessa itself, and maybe further. Until all these frostbitten Nazis are gunned down, everything will be so, in the form of an abscess.
          1. Gerasim Donskoy
            Gerasim Donskoy 19 December 2016 21: 09
            +2
            Come on, all of you, at least beat off Avdiivka and stop beating the outskirts of Donetsk. And Odessa itself could have recaptured itself if it wanted! And who will go to the DLNR to fight for the 7th kilometer market and the Odessa port?
            1. 210ox
              210ox 19 December 2016 21: 16
              +1
              Only tight wallets can "fight" for the market and the port .. For cities and villages, desperate guys ..
              Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
              Come on, all of you, at least beat off Avdiivka and stop beating the outskirts of Donetsk. And Odessa itself could have recaptured itself if it wanted! And who will go to the DLNR to fight for the 7th kilometer market and the Odessa port?
              1. Gerasim Donskoy
                Gerasim Donskoy 20 December 2016 10: 12
                0
                But who’s stopping you, go ahead!
        2. Gerasim Donskoy
          Gerasim Donskoy 19 December 2016 18: 16
          +10
          It will be so, because the war is governed by the interests of Gazprom on the Russian side and Akhmetov, who is represented by the godfather of D Medvedev Medvedev, on the other. Therefore, they did not take Mariupol, which twice in September 2014 and February 2015 hung without any defense. In Svetlodarsk there is the Akhmetovskaya Uglegorskaya TPP with a capacity of 6 million megawatts, it could well have passed into the hands of the DPR in February 2015, but the command "Stop!" Also followed, because state Akhmetov has export-import, God forbid, interfere with him. That is why "maemo those, shche maemo!"
          1. bk316
            bk316 19 December 2016 19: 35
            +4
            Uglegorsk TPP with a capacity of 6 million megawatts

            How many? how much?
            Yes, Ukrainians can supply the whole world with energy!
            1. Gerasim Donskoy
              Gerasim Donskoy 19 December 2016 21: 05
              0
              Sorry, just the power of the units is about 4 MW. Units: 4x300mW + 3x800 MW. It was one of the most powerful in the Ukrainian SSR. Put into operation at full capacity in 1983. With the transition to fuel oil, its capacity was increased by 30%. This is what a present they left to Ukraine.
              1. bk316
                bk316 20 December 2016 13: 16
                +2
                This is what a present they left to Ukraine.

                Yes, we do not mind, but it would be better if they didn’t leave the nuclear power plants.
                I already walked in due time under the Chernobl cloud, I don’t want anymore.
    2. PAM
      PAM 19 December 2016 16: 24
      +11
      Quote: svp67
      Well, here's Obama's "farewell gift" ...

      where does Obama? Winter - money is mute (the IMF decided to suspend), gas is also mute (gas is not generated in storage facilities smile ), for jumps in the form of a court and 6 cores, Gazprom clearly said we will block it if there is a fence from the pipe, people will soon start to freeze, rebel and start looking for the extreme ("Putin is to blame" is no longer hawked), then you need to do something (the head of the nation ), so they start fighting again. Then they will say that Russia again attacked Peremoga, and help them jump in front of their Western partners.
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 December 2016 16: 33
        +12
        Quote: PAM
        where does Obama?

        Yes, of course he has nothing to do with it, he just walked by ... Yes, Poroshenko will not take a step without his permission. Do you think that the American reconnaissance drones just like that, for this month TWICE in that area were patrolling ... and the American general visited the ATO zone the other day. Don't be naive.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 19 December 2016 17: 03
      +14
      Two hours ago I met Basurin, he was just leaving DAN. The APU had a new attack in the morning - three were killed and four were wounded. And yesterday, as a Ukrainian volunteer said, "about thirty were killed only."
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 December 2016 17: 07
        +1
        Quote: Sith Lord
        In the morning the APU had a new attack - three were killed and four were injured.

        What result? I mean, the front line stood?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 19 December 2016 17: 16
          +23
          Yes, all remained with their own. If at the end of June ours departed from a height of 220, since there was no reason to die in vain. On the second day we hit the heights. Now ours didn’t even retreat from a height.
          APU climbed in the morning, as ours jammed communications and the APU has no communication from yesterday evening with two units that tried to cover the heights from the flanks.
          1. svp67
            svp67 19 December 2016 17: 18
            +15
            Quote: Sith Lord
            Yes, all remained with their own.

            Thank. Good luck in battle and God bless you.
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 19 December 2016 17: 20
              +9
              On losses at APU I wrote above, but we have 4s.
      2. avt
        avt 19 December 2016 18: 35
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        as the Ukrainian volunteer said "about thirty only killed"

        I’ve got something like that ..found, well, just the answer to
        Quote: svp67
        What result? I mean, the front line stood?

        I got the wrong word !!!! Peramoga Usih Paramog! Mats usih paramog!
        syabro.leonidminute back
        Ukrainian Heroes were able to vibrate a healer with a position without artillery preparation and armored vehicles, at that hour as a thief dovgo fired upon our positions with artillery and locked armored vehicles in battle! As a result, the hell is right at once with armored vehicles, having deprived the power of the trench and zbroy! All hto having taken part in the whole battle of the Hero of Ukraine and especially the commander of hto having taken the decision about the counterattack!
        wassat Salo Dropped! Full!
    4. OLD FART
      OLD FART 19 December 2016 18: 02
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      Well, here's Obama's "farewell gift" ...

      The slogan in action ... "War with Russia, to the last Ukrainian ..." ... Eh Ukrainians, what are you doing then .. How will you look into each other's eyes then?

      This is after a drunken raid against the Separs and the damned .. The result, as usual, is the same!
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 19 December 2016 16: 01
    +6
    Today is St. Nicholas Day, and although he is a miracle worker, he is not a warrior. What did they hope starting military operations? ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 19 December 2016 16: 08
      +44
      Fear God, what kind of saints are Nikolai, for them Bandera and Shukhevych are saints, so there is no need to expect anything else from them. Nikolai is a patron, in my opinion, the patron saint of sailors and travelers, well, let him help us send these frost-bitters on a one-way trip ... Burn these reptiles to all-hearted hells!
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 19 December 2016 16: 28
        +28
        I don’t understand the position of our authorities, not two, not one and a half,
        I don’t understand why Ossetians are better than Lugansk or Donetsk miners than Crimeans are better or we have business in Syria, and let them kill in Donbas, not Makhmuds and Ali, but Nikolaev, Sashek, Andreev, Igor'kov and Seryozhek.
        For the hohlodonts, we are still invaders and in their opinion the Donbass is occupied, for this the West has already put sticks in our wheels, so we need to "walk" at everything. I don't know what is more convenient to hit there, whether by hurricanes, dots, calibers, but all the same already! Give it time in the face and let snot choke on your snot!

        Here, Drugan, he sent a vidyuha, an old decel, but from the scene.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 19 December 2016 16: 56
          +15
          Valera, hi! hi I don’t know what our people are pulling with showdowns in the Donbass, but there is probably some kind of international reason. Maybe we’ll wait when they die from the cold and vodka, or maybe something else. But people are really sorry.
          As for giving in the face. If this is another military campaign and the dill are stubbornly climbing into Debaltseve, then I think our next boiler and another "reversal" will be arranged for them in full!
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 19 December 2016 17: 19
          +16
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          I don’t understand why Ossetians are better than Lugansk or Donetsk miners than Crimeans are better or we have business in Syria, and let them kill in Donbas, not Makhmuds and Ali, but Nikolaev, Sashek, Andreev, Igor'kov and Seryozhek.

          You are all right ... but only, if we bring in the troops, I’m ready to argue for anything that the Armed Forces will immediately have the most modern Mattress and European weapons, and in every city there will be “military advisers” posts. At the same time, all kinds of evil spirits will come running from all over the world. And then the smoldering conflict will turn into a war, like the one in Syria. And it will be very difficult for us to fight on two fronts.
          Here, I think, it’s necessary to shoot all these Parashenko, Yatsenyukov and Tyagnibokov, and quickly. Well, raise people in other cities. The Ukrainians in their silence allowed this all, now let them fix it themselves now.
          1. aleks700
            aleks700 19 December 2016 17: 34
            +3
            ... but only, if we bring in the troops, I'm ready to argue for anything that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will immediately have the most modern mattress and European weapons, and in every city there will be "military advisers" points. At the same time, all evil spirits will come from all over the world
            This will be so. We need to actively help with weapons and volunteers. Very active.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 19 December 2016 17: 40
              +3
              Quote: aleks700
              This will be so. We need to actively help with weapons and volunteers. Very active

              After Ilovaisk and Debaltseve, the new Russians have weapons of trophy, sorry, at least eat them backwards. He was taken from there by wagons. As for equipment and ammunition, I think with this we are already helping them. Mariupol, Kharkov, Odessa must be raised ... or are there no Russian and normal Ukrainians?
              1. aleks700
                aleks700 19 December 2016 18: 53
                +1
                Need a new technique. Radars against artillery, jammers, and so on. And of course, experts. Maybe something from the Air Force helicopters, light attack aircraft, means of destruction of air defense. (fantastic of course).
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 19 December 2016 18: 57
                  +5
                  Quote: aleks700
                  Need a new technique

                  First of all, it is necessary that people in Kharkov, Odessa, Mariupol, and finally in Kiev, finally understand that it is necessary to wet the Nazis without courts and rallies. And start with the Rada and the president with your own pack. Then the equipment will appear, as in New Russia.
                  1. aleks700
                    aleks700 20 December 2016 05: 54
                    0
                    This is ideal. The ideal is not attainable. It is necessary that work be done, underground organizations should be created. We need money. Who will give them? And the most active ones either sit or leave. However, this is not a reason to leave everything as it is.
                    1. Alexey Lesogor
                      Alexey Lesogor 20 December 2016 14: 45
                      0
                      It is necessary that in / in Ukraine Minin and Pozharsky are found in the country. The people followed them and dropped the junta. But it turns out, as in that great work, crests sit and wait until the dumplings themselves fly into their mouths. With geyropov just go all over your face can fly.
                      1. aleks700
                        aleks700 20 December 2016 16: 01
                        0
                        It is necessary that in / in Ukraine Minin and Pozharsky are found in the country. The people followed them and dropped the junta. But it turns out, as in that great work, crests sit and wait until the dumplings themselves fly into their mouths. With geyropov just go all over your face can fly
                        If for 3 years we were sucked in on the aggression of Ukraine in Voronezh, then we would also have believed. We need powerful propaganda on non-stale. And there is none.
          2. Served once
            Served once 19 December 2016 17: 50
            +7
            There is plenty of evil there: Poles, French, Swedes. Modern weapons, even up to the Abrams. Everyone is waiting for orders for at least some actions. The Donetsk and Lugansk regions need to be restored within their borders, to move the APU from the cities. This is long overdue.
          3. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 19 December 2016 19: 46
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            You all say correctly ... but only if we introduce troops,

            Yes, you don’t need to send troops, bomb on normal, and then heel five rockets from the Caspian Sea, that's all.
            And we give them oil, gas and the Lipetsk factory is working.
            sick of all this.
        3. Skeptic Self-Taught
          Skeptic Self-Taught 19 December 2016 17: 43
          +2
          Valera.
          See more news (Opinion heading) that coal is shipped from Lugansk and Donetsk to Ukrainian thermal power plants ...
          First business, then war - the so-called ...
        4. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 19 December 2016 19: 24
          +2
          Quote: PHANTOM-AS
          I do not understand why Ossetians are better

          They were officially in Ossetia, our peacekeepers were killed, Poroshenko was recognized here, so we are spinning, half steps.
        5. East
          East 20 December 2016 01: 38
          +2
          just do not care ... Putin.
    2. kepmor
      kepmor 19 December 2016 16: 13
      +7
      Come on, Leader! Is there anything "sacred" left for the "brave ukropeteks"?
      For them, that weekday, that Easter, everything is one ... creatures-non-humans in human form ... there is nothing more to say!
      And our numbered Minsk cars are still stamped, like "hot cakes" ... DOCOLE?!?!?!
  3. volot-voin
    volot-voin 19 December 2016 16: 02
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    Well, here's Obama's "farewell gift" ...

    Either Paris will defeat Vendée, or Vendée Paris .......
  4. vadimalehin76
    vadimalehin76 19 December 2016 16: 03
    +9
    Lord Enlighten! Let normal people live calmly am
    1. Smog
      Smog 19 December 2016 16: 07
      +15
      Let normal people live calmly

      And abnormal fool - rest.
  5. gm9019
    gm9019 19 December 2016 16: 03
    +4
    Well, that started ... ((
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 19 December 2016 16: 36
      0
      it may well be, judging by the letters of friends from there.
      1. Ckyy
        Ckyy 19 December 2016 23: 01
        0
        Are you an esoteric? : 3
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 19 December 2016 23: 47
          0
          Esoteric is a person who wants to reach Paradise without repentance or build this paradise on earth.

          What did you have ...?
          1. Ckyy
            Ckyy 19 December 2016 23: 55
            0
            Esoteria

            I talked only about your mystical ability to communicate with spirits: 3
            1. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS 20 December 2016 00: 04
              0
              Quote: CKyHC
              I talked only about your mystical ability to communicate with spirits

              And you snagged the word "from there" what
              Interesting plot, I want to ask, but do you have anything left in the pouch?
              It's hard to catch a wave wassat
  6. Mikado
    Mikado 19 December 2016 16: 04
    +1
    if this is a serious offensive, something tells me that it is last thing. For more of their ukrogosudarstva reserves are not enough material. So to speak, the last convulsive attempt.
    1. Ilmir099
      Ilmir099 19 December 2016 16: 08
      +5
      Enough, they have Nationalized Privat-Bank
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 19 December 2016 16: 13
        0
        Quote: Ilmir099
        Enough, they have Nationalized Privat-Bank

        several lard hryvnia debt, they nationalized. yes
        1. Ilmir099
          Ilmir099 19 December 2016 16: 20
          +2
          The deposits of the population will be cut down ... And then they started a diversionary maneuver for the people, that war, etc., and what kind of bank are you talking about ...
        2. nadezhiva
          nadezhiva 19 December 2016 16: 39
          +1
          No, they are now under the pretext of nationalizing Privat, they will print hryvnias as much as they need. Recapitalize. Poorly. Then only pieces of paper will remain in Privat, but now Petya will turn on the machine in full.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 19 December 2016 16: 23
        +2
        There 150 billion hryvnias of only FAMOUS debt, but what else will be revealed there? This is real .op!
        Poroshenko is very afraid of losing power. Because it will lose both money and head at the same time.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 19 December 2016 18: 46
          0
          Believe me, Poroshenko will not lose anything - all his grandmothers are already abroad - and chocolate plants too.
      3. the most important
        the most important 19 December 2016 16: 28
        0
        Quote: Ilmir099
        Enough, they have Nationalized Privat-Bank

        And there was only a signboard and billions of debts left ??
      4. Mikado
        Mikado 19 December 2016 16: 29
        0
        so the fact of the matter is that, as the Observer writes correctly, it is still unknown how this will come to them. Debts nationalized. The main loot, as I understand it, has already been withdrawn. If Benya allowed this, it means that he has nothing to worry about. Soon they will ride without pants.
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 19 December 2016 16: 10
      +6
      Quote: Mikado
      if this is a serious offensive, something tells me that it is the last. For more of their ukrogosudarstva reserves are not enough material. So to speak, the last frantic attempt

      Your lips ... what is already the last offensive, and how many of these will still be there, until the ukroarmiya either runs away or dies out, and the blacks send out.
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 19 December 2016 16: 31
        0
        ah, I know it myself. drinks It just somehow coincided with the news about the Benin Bank, and it inspired.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 19 December 2016 16: 20
      +2
      Are you sure of this? This idiot is there for a long time, unfortunately. And there are enough reserves, never voluntarily zashtatniks covered their "projects" Can only force force, as in Vietnam ..
      Quote: Mikado
      if this is a serious offensive, something tells me that it is last thing. For more of their ukrogosudarstva reserves are not enough material. So to speak, the last convulsive attempt.
    4. kepmor
      kepmor 19 December 2016 16: 21
      +3
      Still, Sergei Karaganov is right that "the time has come to solve the problem of Ukraine without Kiev's participation" ...
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 19 December 2016 16: 36
      +4
      if this is a serious offensive, something tells me that it is the last.
      It’s too early to judge. Is the Phashington drone still spinning there or flown away? It’s a pity they didn’t.
      It can only be reconnaissance in battle, probing positions, searching for weak points. In Ossetia, it did not immediately begin. As soon as the OSCE spies merge, the offensive will begin. Although the Macington macaques can just make them a sacred sacrifice to launch an offensive.
  7. AleBors
    AleBors 19 December 2016 16: 07
    +9
    Expected, but not now. Ukrovoyaki usually do not fight in winter ... Looks like the team came from across the ocean ... God forbid the militia survive!
  8. Altona
    Altona 19 December 2016 16: 08
    +9
    Hillary broke the chain, the electors must approve the victory of trump, so apparently everywhere gave the order to advance, on all fronts. Bloody granny and Alkonaut-President of Ukraine do not get drunk.
  9. Cynic
    Cynic 19 December 2016 16: 08
    +1
    Is there no echo of Aleppo?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 19 December 2016 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: Cynic
      Is there no echo of Aleppo?

      Why do you think so? Dushariks from Allepo still need to rest, they have to fix their strength in the resorts of Turkey. And so, nonsense, do not pay attention. No.
    2. aurano
      aurano 19 December 2016 16: 50
      +2
      I think the same for my specialists
      help Nikolai the Wonderworker to Russian
  10. Uncle Vova
    Uncle Vova 19 December 2016 16: 09
    +6
    Ott nationalization of Privat Bank is distracting. Now the hryvnia will fall, they say that because of the war.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 19 December 2016 16: 16
      0
      Or maybe you're right. Maybe ... Let's see.
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 19 December 2016 17: 15
      0
      and trade terms for gas purchases in the Russian Federation
  11. Alexei-
    Alexei- 19 December 2016 16: 11
    0
    it's tin, why print all sorts of nonsense ????

    http://vz.ru/news/2016/12/19/850240.html
  12. himRa
    himRa 19 December 2016 16: 12
    +8
    Normal reconnaissance in battle, in case of success, the introduction of reserves. It worries that this is the Armed Forces and not the National Battles. According to the volunteers, they don’t have much loss from 20-200 and more than 40-300 so if they want to sign a contract! They will announce the grave
    Hang on guys! sober khokhlofashistov! we are on your side, although morally, physically does not allow age angry
    1. Gerasim Donskoy
      Gerasim Donskoy 19 December 2016 16: 33
      +1
      They stand together on the front line, that is, the terbats included in the National Guard and the entire National Guard and the APU, interspersed, are subordinate to the single ATO command and the president, act on the orders of the ATO command and Kiev, so what's the difference?
      1. himRa
        himRa 19 December 2016 17: 01
        +3
        Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
        They stand together on the front line, so what's the difference?

        I believe that their bosses are still different (otherwise there would be no such mess, everyone shoots whenever he wants and where) I see the difference in combat training and experience, in 1-2 years it is difficult to comprehend all military skill and APU professional military
  13. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 19 December 2016 16: 13
    +1
    Scum, namietsya. The answer is impressive.
  14. Docent1984
    Docent1984 19 December 2016 16: 13
    +1
    ... "Yes, you, I see, a slave, will not calm down ...?!" When they are all processed into fertilizers ...
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 December 2016 16: 21
      +4
      Quite predictable development of the situation now, when terrorists in Syria are defeated, we decided to create "trouble" elsewhere in Ukraine and because of the back of Poroshenko and his team, as always, "the ears" of the US Israel EU
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 December 2016 16: 17
    +4
    Is it they who use the blood of their soldiers to distract the people from the robbery that Benya arranged for them with Privatbank? So that there was something to write off the SHARP devaluation? They just throw it into a meat grinder, so what? We need losses SCORINGING, then rallies in the country, mourning, increased defense spending - well, that's an excuse for further impoverishment ...
  16. morituri
    morituri 19 December 2016 16: 19
    +2
    Another Obama attempt to pawn Grundel Trump. Minsk 2 went to ashes, and goats must be punished for this.
  17. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 19 December 2016 16: 20
    +1
    They feel it, massive reconnaissance in battle, but I think the guys from the LPR and the DPR are ready for any development of events ....
  18. neoshef
    neoshef 19 December 2016 16: 34
    0
    Another Svidomo provocation, as they say, to draw attention to itself. Only somehow all this ukram didn’t work sideways. If the militias go forward, it will be difficult to stop them, it may even be impossible.
  19. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 19 December 2016 16: 40
    +11
    All this will continue until the South-East of Ukraine moves to Kiev and cleans all of Ukraine from these bandits, thieves, and Bandera killers.
    All these nedobitki-Banderlog-all will continue to "shoot and shoot" until the South-East-does not move-and smears them like a Colorado beetle. Do you really not understand this ???? It's understandable for a baby with a pacifier in a nursery. Baby, don't you ???? Why sit, wait? While the part of Ukraine, occupied by Bandera, does not give birth to its own Bendery, a whole generation, when will it be too late? And educate them to the bone-haters of Russians, Russia-haters of South-Votok Ukraine to the bone? What are you waiting for? Like, when "everything will resolve itself." ...
    It is necessary to win, in one battle, once and for all. So as to defeat all future wars and battles. To prevent them.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 19 December 2016 17: 13
      0
      only volunteers from Syria and in the spring (they did not see snow), before that endure in the trenches of militias
  20. rus-5819
    rus-5819 19 December 2016 16: 46
    +3
    Fighters of the people's militia of the LPR do not allow the enemy to advance to settlements. The APU uses 152 and 122 mm artillery, mortars and heavy equipment.


    Hugofrens from the OSCE, Merkaloids and Hollandepiteks, AU, where are you, guarantors of Minsk-02 ???????
    Again, in Russia, you hope that later on there will be something to talk about between the parties.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 19 December 2016 17: 11
      +1
      blood trading is more profitable than wine
  21. behemot
    behemot 19 December 2016 16: 48
    +2
    and what are the eurogays? silent obamkiny six?
  22. Explore
    Explore 19 December 2016 16: 51
    0
    Verkhovna Rada deputy Nadezhda Savchenko said that the Ukrainian presidential administration Petro Poroshenko is preparing her murder. She said this in an interview with NewsOne.
  23. Amper
    Amper 19 December 2016 16: 54
    +4
    Quote: neoshef
    Another Svidomo provocation, as they say, to draw attention to itself. Only somehow all this ukram didn’t work sideways. If the militias go forward, it will be difficult to stop them, it may even be impossible.


    No one will go anywhere. Bondage of the Almonds + support for the Kremlin as shackles. Very zealous and naughty awaits the grave ..
  24. morituri
    morituri 19 December 2016 17: 02
    +2
    And where is the noise of Euro-human rights activists and their authorities - the guarantors of Minsk-2, where there are screams about the suffering of civilians, about the use of weapons prohibited by Minsk. And where is the concern that 1500 tons of ammunition for this weapon arrived in Mariupol. For what ??? They decided to arrange a salute for the New Year ???
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 December 2016 18: 46
      +2
      Quote: morituri
      And where is the noise of the European-human rights activists and their authorities - the guarantors of Minsk-2, where there are cries of suffering of civilians,

      Are you all hoping to hear him?
  25. Explore
    Explore 19 December 2016 17: 05
    0
    In Ukraine, after the announcement of the privatization of Privatbank, a record amount of 2 billion hryvnias ($ 80 million) was withdrawn per day, TASS reports.
  26. Pavel Koltunov
    Pavel Koltunov 19 December 2016 17: 05
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    . It is necessary to cleanse the Donetsk region and the Luhansk region from evil spirits.

    To Kiev itself, and even further, closer to the ocean.
  27. antivirus
    antivirus 19 December 2016 17: 10
    +1
    Only a dream will bring us closer to discharge
    Minsk2 ends in December 16, the farewell tour of the Obama administration.
    I don't understand why the DRGs cannot "resolve" the issue with the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and communications (preferably not on the Dnieper, but on the right bank of Ukria, 100-200 km from the Dnieper)
  28. Mihail55
    Mihail55 19 December 2016 17: 26
    +7
    News Russia 17-00. NOT A WORD!!! Only about the EU ... sanctions extended. Ugh on these sanctions ... PEOPLE DIE !!!! Moreover, OUR !!! How did it become customary ... reports ... shellings ... killed and wounded - isn't that WAR? Is anyone used to it?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 December 2016 18: 23
      +10
      Quote: Michael55
      PEOPLE DIE !!!! Moreover, OUR !!!

      Who told you? Ours in Syria, in Allepo. in Ancient Palmyra. For their sake, we are ready to lose soldiers, soldiers and planes, haul thousands of tons of cargo over distant lands, and humiliate ourselves in front of the Qatari and Turks. And in the LPR / DPR who? The roofing felts are dead, either the wrong Russians, or the Cossacks, or the Makhnovists, in general, citizens of another country who are dreaming of fulfilling the Minsk agreements. Not kosher to the extent that the news is not worth mentioning.
      1. KUOLEMA
        KUOLEMA 19 December 2016 18: 35
        +4
        yeah, tanned krivichi live in Syria, again this is the ancient Russian land and Donetsk Ukraine wassat
  29. OLD FART
    OLD FART 19 December 2016 17: 29
    0
    I do not understand the Ukrainians what they are seeking ... After all, every day the peaceful perish, and then they will have to answer!
    On Sunday, the Armed Forces advanced by reinforced company groups towards Logvinovo and Kalinovka along the already beaten road. As if it were happening in the summer, the 54th brigade, according to the scheme worked out earlier, tried to approach the forward positions of the BCH in open areas. The offensive was preceded by active artillery preparation, which was heard not only in Uglegorsk, but also in Debaltseve itself.

    After that, the APU brought several armored personnel carriers to positions in order to suppress or at least “bend” the defense of the VSN with machine-gun fire, and to launch assault groups in the identified weak spots. These groups were delivered to the front line on the BMP, which ruined them: the VSN did not lie in the trenches, but met the attack aircraft with grenade launchers, which led to large losses to the attacking side.

    Crossed Bandera, before Christmas ...?
    1. aurano
      aurano 19 December 2016 18: 34
      0
      Do they ever dry out?
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 19 December 2016 18: 53
        +2
        Quote: aurano
        Do they ever dry out?

        When they got into the "boilers" they dried out immediately ...

        Remember the famous photo ...
  30. ochakow703
    ochakow703 19 December 2016 17: 38
    +1
    Is it that Monkey has decided to stir up the war in the end? No wonder their drone spent so much time on the border of contact. Hang on, guys. Hammer this fascist evil spirits at the root of all the trunks, and there is no need to look back at these "doves of peace", this is all their filthy handiwork.
  31. Stilet
    Stilet 19 December 2016 17: 53
    +2
    This was to be expected. The Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Battalions have been building up their forces during the entire past period. Conducted alignment, accumulated and restored materiel, regrouped. And now, before the African American left, they started. They will not wait for Trump to come to power, they need results before him. If so, the situation will only escalate further. It is necessary to prepare, whether we like it or not, the "partners" of Russia will not give a break to the 2 fronts.
  32. esaul1950
    esaul1950 19 December 2016 18: 05
    +1
    Banderlog decided to make a present for the "beloved prisident" for the new year? God grant that the DPR and LPR would have enough ammunition for these bandits.
  33. Awaz
    Awaz 19 December 2016 18: 05
    +2
    there it was necessary to cook a boiler for a long time. UkroVS long twitched in that direction. It was necessary to prepare in advance for the Cauldron, and why drive a good group of APUs there and scratch the hell out of there.
  34. 406ppm2gv
    406ppm2gv 19 December 2016 18: 20
    +1
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    Valera.
    See more news (Opinion heading) that coal is shipped from Lugansk and Donetsk to Ukrainian thermal power plants ...
    First business, then war - that’s what it is called ..

    you won’t believe that so much coal goes to Ukraine from Russia.
  35. 406ppm2gv
    406ppm2gv 19 December 2016 18: 25
    +1
    Quote: STARPER
    Crossed Bandera, before Christmas ...?

    I propose to send all the "Hawthorn" confiscated in Irkutsk to the ukrobandits as a gift for Christmas, there will be a peremog.
  36. guzik007
    guzik007 19 December 2016 18: 29
    +1
    Don't panic, Basurin! If something extraordinary arises, then in a couple of days we will watch videos of how "your" valiant Armed Forces "with sudden pinpoint strikes burned out whole advancing battalions" ...
    Already seen. Already applauded ... "your" super-duper invincible. Cho there ... we don't need to wag the booty in front of us ... we understand everything ... we must, it must be so .... if cho, it’s always so ...
  37. Karaul73
    Karaul73 19 December 2016 18: 46
    +4
    For normal operation, for a long time it was already necessary to combine the LPR and the DPR into one structure, and not play in the republics. Living together is easier.
    1. himRa
      himRa 20 December 2016 10: 12
      +3
      I agree with you, probably they themselves understand this, but can not sacrifice their personal interests and ambitions?
  38. Gvfrog
    Gvfrog 19 December 2016 19: 15
    +2
    Quote: Black
    It seems that the main task set by Poroshenko's "American colleagues" is the complete genocide of the Slavs. And it doesn't matter whether it is a militia, civilians or their own population. The main thing is more deaths.

    This is not a sensation, but an objective reality in Ukraine!
  39. bald
    bald 19 December 2016 19: 19
    +1
    There was nothing to give them a break. Give them (DNI and LC), with a dozen MIGs, filled in full. Well, a reserve for them. Let them clean the area themselves. And it will continue so.
  40. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 19 December 2016 23: 35
    +1
    Just reviewed Ukrainian news. The absolutely opposite flow of information - began with the shelling of militias. Then followed an attack which the APU lost (five dead, 16 wounded, one missing) were recaptured. We launched a counterattack. They took some enemy positions. They say that in Minsk, and so should have been for Ukraine. Preliminary counted about 25 bodies of dead militias. The map was shown (as always) uninformative - as for children. This is me - for completeness. I think tomorrow something will become clear.
  41. legkostup
    legkostup 20 December 2016 00: 29
    0
    And if you look at other sources?

    On the Svetlodar arc, the enemy lost 20 people
    December 19, 2016 22:25 based on: Details-TV author: Gennady Vivdenko 157
    On the Svetlodar arc, the enemy lost 20 people
    The Ukrainian army suffered the greatest losses here in a day

    The enemy offensive in the area of ​​the Svetlodar arc. The military admitted this was not the case with the attempt to storm Maryinka last year. The enemy attack goes in the direction of the villages of Lugansk, Mironovskoye and the city of Svetlodarsk. The Ukrainian army suffered the greatest losses here in a day. However, it inflicted heavy losses on the enemy many times and threw the attackers back.

    On Sunday at about six in the morning the enemy went on the offensive in the area of ​​the Svetlodar arc. Before that there was a long shelling.

    "The enemy first started the artillery preparation first. Then the offensive. The battle began. It lasted more than 6 hours," says Grigory Mazur, head of the press center of the ATO headquarters.

    The militants tried to capture our two firing strongholds in the area of ​​the village of Lugansk. When the attack was repelled, the enemy literally rammed Ukrainian positions with heavy shells for another two hours. About forty hits from the barrel artillery and up to seven hundred from mortars of various calibers were recorded. After - the enemy again went on the offensive.

    "120 caliber, 152nd. Doesn't give a break. We launched a counterattack. We seized a certain territory. It was difficult to gain a foothold in it, but we got a foothold. There were losses," says "Bugai", the callsign of the APU unit commander.

    In the evening, the enemy carried out a third attack on Ukrainian positions. Used BMP and armored personnel carriers. Ukrainian soldiers were forced to respond with a counterattack. As a result, several enemy positions and trophies of machine guns and grenade launchers were captured. The killed enemies, in particular, found passports with registration in the Rostov region of the Russian Federation. Ukrainian troops suffered the largest casualties in the ATO zone over the past 5 months.

    "For the dead 5. For the wounded 16. One serviceman is missing. Now the enemy forces are being built up. Regrouping is underway. We are preparing for a new attack on the enemy. At present, there are shellings," says Tisa, deputy brigade commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    According to the Ukrainian military, the enemy lost 20 people dead, 30 militants were injured. In the afternoon, shelling of the Ukrainian trenches continued. According to the forecasts of our intelligence, closer to night the enemy will go on the offensive again.
  42. Wolka
    Wolka 20 December 2016 05: 30
    0
    or maybe LDNR has long since given a damn about the OSCE and the Minsk agreements (all in no sense) and slam into the mugs of presumptuous APU and National Guard, so that they roll further than Kiev (and take Mariupol for sure) ...
  43. Bering Strait
    Bering Strait 20 December 2016 11: 26
    0
    Until Kiev and Lviv begin to burn, this war will not end ...
  44. Mel Vlad
    Mel Vlad 23 December 2016 22: 43
    0

    why not use the system "Mercury"