Meduza claims that Major Sanchirov, commander of the 74507 Airborne Forces battalion, died in Syria

The administration of the village of Yashkul of the Republic of Kalmykia informs about the last mourning rally - a farewell to the deceased commander of the 74507 military unit, Major Sanal Sanchirov. A note about the farewell to a December 13 soldier appeared in the social network VKontakte on page House of Culture Yashkulsky.

Text notes from 12 December:

Tomorrow, December 13, at 10.00, a mourning rally will be held in the House of Culture in Yashkul, a farewell to our countryman, the commander of the 74507 paratrooper battalion of the military unit Sanalov Sanal Vladimirovich.

Informational portal «Medusa» however, he claims that Major Sanchirov died in the Syrian Arab Republic. The material states that we are talking about a “reliable source of information,” although it is immediately added that there is no official confirmation from the Russian Defense Ministry about the death of a soldier in Syria.

For reference: 74507 military unit is deployed in Kamyshin, Volgograd region.

In the 74507 community of VKontakte VKontakte, military personnel and other users are trying to find out if the data published by Medusa is true.

Comments

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Why do not you place verified information?

[bouncyhunter]

Hat of pure water!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

bouncyhunter and Pronow, quietly! don't quarrel! wait, it will be clear ...

[Großer feldherr]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

quiet! don't quarrel! wait, it will be clear ...

But what may not be clear here?
Would have been alive, had long ago made itself felt, and this "jellyfish" would have been condemned for libel. Where else can the battalion commander die so that it hides the MO?
It’s definitely not medicine, an accident, or the same shooting — in such cases, they immediately spread everything.

[Maryana Kotovskaya]

Maybe not in Syria, but with the neighbors, there is again some sort of mess. It seems from the rain, the guys were looking for graves who died during active clashes with neighbors. But why is this, all and so on the whole guess, and the extra info, why, life will not change from this. We don’t know much, and don’t.

[rpek32]

Quote: Pronow

And what is not a hat for you?

MORF statement - not a hat. so while the information is not verified - it means a hat

[Homo]

What is MORF? If it is intentionally written, then you are a loser, if you make a mistake, it's hard to fix it (there is a button there).

[rpek32]

Quote: Homo

What is MORF?

no need to be clever. all those interested were well aware of what I was talking about, and those who were not interested did not need to know.
2k16. not be able to use google.
ps I love conclusions based on nothing.

[Pronow]

Mod, how much time do you save by typing the letter k instead of the number 0?

[ssergn]

Quote: Pronow

Mod, how much time do you save by typing the letter k instead of the number 0?

So also show off! A good show is more expensive than money.

[Koshak]

Quote: Homo

What is MORF? If it is intentionally written, then you are a loser, if you make a mistake, it's hard to fix it (there is a button there).

For five-man I can explain - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. And if a person has not pressed the spacebar, you do not need to be clever and build yourself into a teacher who checks dictations. Everyone understood everything, except for you, and you are just dumb and pretending to be dull.

[Themi30]

Quote: rpek32

Quote: Pronow

And what is not a hat for you?

MORF statement - not a hat. so while the information is not verified - it means a hat

The MO’s statement is the same hat, since the press secretary makes all the statements, in fact, which is no different from Kiselyov’s, the party’s line is one. I have no doubt that no one about the losses would not have heard at all if the militants had not uploaded the video.
I don’t presume to say it is good or bad, it's just worth understanding. And do not be a believer in television. Moreover, the articles are different. It is foolish to try to say that it is true or not without waiting, where are you in a hurry?

[Asadullah]

MO statement is the same hat as all statements are made

Who is your application? That is, it is not necessary to understand the "hat" for sure? And the meaning of the usual bar in / s? Can you tell me? Specialists are secret to avoid possible revenge, intelligence officers, in order to keep the action secret and not give the material to analysts. Why secret a business traveler to / from the sounded in / h? There is an informational task of certain circles to give an example of the "concealment of losses" of the opaque operation in order to sow distrust in the authorities and develop a "kitchen" opposition, in the hope of somehow spoiling the future presidential elections in the Russian Federation.

[avia1991]

Quote: Asadullah

There is an informational task of certain circles to give an example of the "concealment of losses" of the opacity of the operation, in order to sow distrust in the authorities

Do you even stop writing nonsense, Asadullah!
Why does no one recall that the loss of military personnel in the RF Armed Forces is classified information? This is where we are dancing from. And you do not need to wait for statements from the Ministry of Defense: if they deem it possible, they will report, no, there is nothing to guess.

[Asadullah]

And what is not a hat for you? Kiselev? Well, it’s clear that jelly will never say this

Information from the MO will come, he will say. He works, and is not involved in club activities. And in general, it works well. As for the losses, the operation in Syria is official, it makes no sense to classify when there are orders and subsequent award sheets. If there was a business trip, then there will be information with all the ensuing consequences.

[Themi30]

Quote: Asadullah

Your statement from whom?

This opinion, it’s mine, it’s hard to probably understand this, huh?

Quote: Asadullah

Information from the MO will come, he will say. He works, and is not involved in club activities.

Do you think that the Ministry of Information is engaged in information policy in the country? They can either confirm something or refute it. More suitable people are doing everything else. Including any official statements made on behalf of the Moscow Region or Kiselyov, so yes, it is obvious that there is no difference who will say this or that.
ps And this is normal, otherwise the information policy (propaganda that should be in any normal state) is not adequately implemented.

Quote: Asadullah

As for the losses, the operation in Syria is official, it makes no sense to classify

It is a pity of course that you were not asked, but the information is classified, for which there are adequate reasons and the law.

[Asadullah]

You have porridge in your head

Do you know it pleases that it is not a soup, or God forbid, what a fried steak. Do you know how the fretboard is applied? And how is it filmed? If you don't know, then there is nothing to talk about. Before the "top secret battalion commander" becomes classified, he will be transferred to another place, and in case of death, he will never appear in the figures quoted. There is another point, there is a date and conditions for declassification, which will expire in the near future and there is no point in violating a certain order, then this will be announced in the press. In another way, it is a violation of the Law "On State Secrets" No. 5485-1. Is that clearer?

[Themi30]

Quote: Asadullah

Do you know how the overlay occurs? And how is it removed?

No, but are you up to date with the origin of the universe? Why am I asking? And this also does not apply to what is at stake.

Quote: Asadullah

there is a date and conditions for declassification, which will expire in the near future and there is no sense in violating a certain order. Then it will be announced to the press.

You just refuted your words, now I really understand everything.

Quote: Asadullah

As for the losses, the operation in Syria is official, there is no sense in classifying

[Awaz]

5 years ago it was possible to check information about Russia through Ukro Media. Now I would be shy, they say lies - stopudovo

[lelyk72]

Those. Kiselev never talked about the losses of the Russian Federation in Syria ?????

[210ox]

Why immediately "hat"? Prove the opposite, the major is alive. Then you will argue that this is a duck ..

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hat of pure water!

[dsm100]

Where and how many of our guys died, we will not know soon.

[xetai9977]

And it’s clear to the hedgehog that the real losses of those killed, wounded and in technology are much higher than those numbers. that are officially announced. By the way, this is the norm for all warring countries. Nothing new.

[avia1991]

Quote: xetai9977

real losses of those killed, wounded and in technology are much higher than those numbers

It is not a fact that it is "much": firstly, real specialists work "in the field" there, and not boys with a one-year "deadline" behind them. HOW they know how to work - it is better not to know, you will sleep more peacefully.
And secondly, our contingent there is very limited. And the losses, respectively, too. Although the fact that they are is an understandable and sad fact - there is no war without losses ..

[Trevis]

Very bad, if so. I hope nonsense.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The earth will rest in peace, but what about the statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and there are no operations?

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

but what about the statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and no operations?

First wait. See nothing is clear, yet ..? And secondly, secrecy ... In war, data on operations is sometimes classified, and this is normal.

[Indifference]

and they said who was there and what for did we first let the country turn into the surface of the moon and then make an offer to Assad that he couldn’t refuse ... all are kind ... and who’s fighting there and is located, God forbid, in 50 years

[Pronow]

statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and no operations?

Statement for the layman. And there are troops. And there are losses.

[avia1991]

Quote: Pronow

Statement for the layman. And there are troops. And there are losses.

Well, from Moldova, kanecna, know better.
That you, that this "leader of the redskins" FROM GERMANY (!!!), clearly do not see the difference between the concepts of "special operation" and "ground operation" - and you also do not understand the difference between the concepts of "troops" and "limited contingent".

[Iskander Sh]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

There are no ground troops in Syria and no operations?

In my opinion, it has never been hidden that there is a limited contingent in Syria to solve specific tasks in the framework of assistance to the legitimate government of Syria.

[210ox]

Marines, MTR, air defense -Is this not ground troops? They were brought in there, and accordingly they have combat missions ..

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The earth will rest in peace, but what about the statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and there are no operations?

[the lord]

They told you, a limited contingent for special operations. Would you like the safety of our facilities from powerful enemy attacks to be completely entrusted to the Syrians? Men work to identify the movements of the enemy, and to develop possible options for his actions, and to curb them against our objects.

[igorka357]

What kind of secrecy, there’s already a whole vidos where our jackals are being taken off, and there are different kinds of snipers, and it’s all different! It’s absolutely Slavic, not Chechen, no ... but Slavic, they simply do not shout stupidly all the Russian troops ..yes have they been there for a long time, called the MTR of the Russian Federation!

[Gamer]

"ichtamnet" is always there!

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The earth will rest in peace, but what about the statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and there are no operations?

1. Land in peace ...
Condolences to relatives and friends, and, I hope, from Shoigu everything that is relied on in the new Russian army. Especially if those who organized the "news" are right.
2. As for the statement .... It is high time to understand the meaning of the words "Russian troops". Where there are Russian troops, there is swiftness, activity, efficiency, Victory.
But sometimes only instructors, advisers, volunteers are present ... And there, too, the situation changes for the better, NATO retreats, human rights activists are in a panic, extremist terrorists are beaten and demoralized.
This is the experience of the last year.
Even if with an overlap, then only a little ...

In both cases, it is easy enough to guess the presence of a Russian soldier.
But this is a secret, or rather one of the secrets of our time.
For example, the Amerians will not reveal their secrets about the organization of the coup in Ukraine, about the goals and causes of the wars in Iraq and Libya, about the attempts of the collapse of Russia, about the bribery and intimidation of EU officials, about the real operations against V.V. Putin ...

So statements that

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

... there are no ground troops in Syria and no operations

correct and true.
And if someone doesn’t like it, contact the Russian tractor driver, who is now plowing peacefully plowing, with questions and questions.

[RUSIVAN]

It’s interesting IN it’s fashionable to spread unverified information, then turn to ukroSMI, they can find so much interesting there ...

[Deniska999]

Losses are mostly classified. So it is likely.

[Alexey-74]

Kalmyk desa .... ???

[Iskander Sh]

Rest in peace.

[den-protector]

What kind of dog thing is some fucking Medusa doing to the death of our military man? Raise your sluggish rating or light up on a tragic event? It is not for nothing that they say that journalism is one of the oldest professions along with bl ... War without loss does not happen, incl. and in Syria. This must be known to the people behind Medusa.

[Großer feldherr]

Is it a journalist’s profession to talk about what’s going on in the world, or not?
And the losses must be hidden, if you can not do without them?

[avia1991]

Quote: Großer Feldherr

Is it a journalist’s profession to talk about what’s going on in the world, or not?

Judging by your fellow countrymen, this is not the case: their main purpose is to compose false information about “blameless insolent Russia around” without bothering to present the real facts.

Quote: Großer Feldherr

And the losses must be hidden, if you can not do without them?

See above: it is quite possible that this officer really died - service with the paratroopers is associated with considerable risk even in peacetime. But what about WHERE and HOW - here I’m sorry! Representatives of the said house of culture do not indicate that the death took place in Syria - this is already working the fantasy of "journalist" who dream of a "fried fact"!

[Großer feldherr]

Well, your assumptions, where could the battalion commander die in the line of duty (won't you have to prove it?) When there is peacetime in the country, and there are not so many hot spots where Russia has interests — as many as two, the intensity in one of which already dumbfounded?

[ghby]

Quote: Großer Feldherr

Well, your assumptions, where could the battalion commander die in the line of duty (won't you have to prove it?) When there is peacetime in the country, and there are not so many hot spots where Russia has interests — as many as two, the intensity in one of which already dumbfounded?

If, in your opinion, a soldier can die in the line of duty only in two places (I think you are about the outskirts and Syria), then you are very far from your knowledge of reality.

[Großer feldherr]

As I understand it, you will not even have hypothetical suggestions, only a ridiculous otmaza "you will get it", which is a pity.

[avia1991]

Quote: Großer Feldherr

As I understand it, you won’t even have hypothetical offers, just an absurd otmaza

Hypothetical assumptions may be in science fiction writers. The reality is that information about losses in the aircraft is classified information.
An officer could have died in many situations: the parachute did not open, a grenade fell into the trench during training throwing, the armored vehicles crushed it, because of a violation of safety, accidentally hit the wrong place during training, slipped - and his head on a stone ... enough? And these are not hypothetical options at all, but quite real ones!
These are yours - and ours! - Journalists love to rummage in someone else's "dirty laundry"! And this is much meaner than keeping secret information secret. Because the goal of such people is not to reveal the truth, but to cause a wave of rumors and gossip in order to cause a surge of discontent among the population.
Incidentally, do not like the Russian order? And WHAT PARDON IS YOUR DOG CASE, how do we live in OUR COUNTRY? You and your "heroes" will sort it out - with those who were involved in training and feeding terrorists in Syria, and those who "blessed" them for this! And we are here ourselves somehow - without your "help"!

[doubovitski]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The earth will rest in peace, but what about the statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and there are no operations?

Land in fluff is the wish of pre-Christian Slavs. Pagan wish. Christians wish the deceased the kingdom of heaven.
It makes no difference WHERE a person died. THIS FOR WHAT is another matter.
There are advisers in Syria, Russian military personnel. There is a ground unit guarding the base. But in any case, the death of a warrior is in the name of all of us Russians. So, the Kingdom of Heaven is in his Soul, and the Eternal Memory, forever and ever.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: doubovitski

Land in fluff is the wish of pre-Christian Slavs.

Christian wish. Until 9 days - the earth rest in peace, after - the kingdom of heaven.
P.S. In pagan rites of burial Slavs burned their victims.

[Altona]

Medusa is an agitprop and information resource of the fifth column.

[vmo]

To close up this freaking free press, the hangers-on of the whole trash, the so-called opposition, but in general knows exactly the clown from Channel 1 (broadcasting how to dress a woman) with strange inclinations.

[Großer feldherr]

And no one would know about the battalion commander who died during the performance (possibly heroic) of military duty, that would be nice.
A curtain.

[himRa]

Quote: doubovitski

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The earth will rest in peace, but what about the statement that there are no ground troops in Syria and there are no operations?

Land in fluff is the wish of pre-Christian Slavs. Pagan wish. Christians wish the deceased the kingdom of heaven.
It makes no difference WHERE a person died. THIS FOR WHAT is another matter.
There are advisers in Syria, Russian military personnel. There is a ground unit guarding the base. But in any case, the death of a warrior is in the name of all of us Russians. So, the Kingdom of Heaven is in his Soul, and the Eternal Memory, forever and ever.

There is probably no difference how to express my gratitude to our warrior? ginel fat or earth in fluff or the kingdom of heaven, or something like Buddhist, if you really believe that you can unite Russia in Christian traditions, you are mistaken!

[avia1991]

Quote: himRa

if you really believe that Christian traditions can unite Russia, you are mistaken!

What kind of phenomenon did it come out of? And ON WHICH, ALLOW TO ASK ?!
Russia, Russia - traditionally Christian, although it was once pagan, true - but then Muslims did not even exist in plans! And since more than 80% of the population is Russian, it is natural that the unifying traditions are precisely Christian!
I do not like? YOUR PROBLEM. But not Russia, for sure.

[Holoy]

I can conclude: the battalion tactical group of the 56th separate guards airborne assault brigade was introduced into Syria ... Previously, based on the messages of the airborne units in Syria, there weren’t ...

[vmo]

Lord, what a nonsense, especially about the battalion tactical group !!

[himRa]

small detachment, 30-40 million (from an old Soviet joke)

[avia1991]

Quote: vmo

what nonsense

This is your way. And the people - you see? Pluses, and begins to lament!
And even if someone asked themselves such a stupid question: The goals and objectives of BTG ??
And BTG is only a reinforced, due to additional equipment and firepower, motorized rifle battalion, designed to conduct combined arms combat (!!!) in an offensive or defense ..
Now ask yourself, what are the GOALS AND OBJECTIVES of the airborne forces ?! And how do they fulfill their tasks? (Purely practically, being in the deep rear, for example) ... WHAT, ON .... Y, BTG ???

[Holoy]

Quote: avia1991

And BTG is only a reinforced, due to additional equipment and firepower, motorized rifle battalion, designed to conduct combined arms combat (!!!) in an offensive or defense ..

I didn’t want to answer, because you look like a Clown, but your attack on the BTG only Motorized Riflemen ... laughed ... did not get tired of copying the information from Yandex? Not all information may be on Yandex ...
For your self-education, tell me- BTG is not only for Motorized Riflemen, For several years now, BTGs have been at the core of military tactics ... for conducting battles with the BTG personnel of the 11th, 83rd separate Airborne Assault Brigades of the Russian Airborne Forces, the Guards Ranks were awarded ... Now, take the trouble to strain your brain ... Where were the battles in 2015? Order of Assigning the Guards Ranks for 2015 ...
Moreover, BTGs form and use MTRs ... while conducting Hybrid combat operations ...

[avia1991]

Quote: Holoy

... for the battles of the BTG composition of the 11th, 83rd separate Russian Airborne Assault Brigades assigned the Guards Ranks

I recommend that you cool your brain. For "Clown" is your middle name .. a mixture of megalomania and amateurish knowledge, seasoned with a desperate desire to show off: "I am a bla-aval, I know something!" Well, no less than the Chief of Staff! General .. Retired .. on the occasion of the lack of a concept of service, as such.
And you still accuse me of "copying Yandex"?
My "friendly" advice to you: stop writing any nonsense here.
That's right PHANTOM-AS regrets the absence of "minuses" - I would have been in "TURTLES" for a week!

[Holoy]

But the Essence is nothing ... Just Blah ... blah ... blah

[Semurg]

Quote: Holoy

I can conclude: the battalion tactical group of the 56th separate guards airborne assault brigade was introduced into Syria ... Previously, based on the messages of the airborne units in Syria, there weren’t ...

If your conclusion is confirmed, then the Russian Federation is drawn into this war to the fullest. If you rewind, it turns out at the beginning they talked only about the help of the air force, ammunition, equipment. Then they introduced the Air Force for a limited time, then specialists, sappers, gunners. and now btg?

[Holoy]

There are no miracles. The Air Force without ground troops ... nothing.

[avia1991]

Quote: Holoy

Air Force without ground troops ... nothing

Here again you are with your "gull-thinking" conclusions .. WHAT IS "GROUND TROOPS", in your opinion? In light of the tasks facing Assad and his army, as well as the available information about the number and armament of all militants opposing the official government in Syria?

[avia1991]

Quote: Semurg

If your conclusion is confirmed, then the Russian Federation is drawn into this war in full

Damn, another alarmist screamed ..
Why did you decide that it makes sense to listen to Holuaya? Show me a real military man, even a retiree, who with such pathos will declare "the introduction of BTG into Syria", indicating even the name of the military unit ?? Is it something that makes you delight ?!
In a military man, this will evoke the thought of the incomplete mental adequacy of the commentator - or of an unrestrained desire to draw attention to himself, with the help of such "profound" statements. Ask why? ..
I now EXACTLY know WHO is there. Not about everyone, of course .. Let's just say this: a friend serves. But it would never occur to me to tell here who, where and why! Just because you need to deal less with hassle. Everything that we need to know about our military people, Konashenkov reports. But Holuay, if you pay attention to his comments, is engaged in the fact that cries for war in the lost positions of Russia, and her miserable army, forced to die for nothing away from her beloved homeland ..
I do not know WHO this gentleman is, and what goals he pursues - but he did not come to Russia with Good.

[ghby]

Quote: Holoy

I can conclude: the battalion tactical group of the 56th separate guards airborne assault brigade was introduced into Syria ... Previously, based on the messages of the airborne units in Syria, there weren’t ...

about analyte. with conclusions.

[Holoy]

Curious ... why did the battalion commander die? Sniper? The death of the battalion commander is a rare occurrence ... what is out of order ... Apparently they are foolishly pushing ...

[Russian]

Quote: Andrew Y.

Why do not you place verified information?

I agree to all 100%.

[Ivanov17]

Interestingly. Why does the site not give out information about the detention of Western instructors in Aleppo? When Israeli readers of the site write about Russian fascism, this is normal. And when you write about the Zionists, they immediately warn about the inadmissibility of "sowing interethnic" hatred. Some kind of double standards for website

[Gamer]

no interrogation video? not shielded

[Alexander S.]

Fortune telling ... and a rich field for speculation. Under recent law, my company may not report losses.

[Holoy]

Sincerely sorry Kombat !!! In the Army, the most valuable thing is the Commanders of the Battalions ... Apparently because of some kind of hold-up muzzle of the Parquet General who came to Rubanus in front of the Defense Ministry ... against the backdrop of failures in Palmyra ...

[panov_panov]

Unfortunately, the information is true, came under mortar shelling, a shrapnel penetrating wound to the head, died on the spot. The officer has already been buried (. May the earth rest in peace with him !!!

[Serg81]

Yeah, the note appeared on the 13th and no one knew about it. And now what number ????

[Serg81]

Confirmation of your statements can you give ???

[Serg81]

Yes, you look at the page of this house of culture and everything will become clear

[nika407]

Jellyfish is such a biljo. Look - do not mess around ...

[Cananecat]

If buried alive, will live long.

[Mentat]

Quote: 210ox

Why immediately "hat"? Prove the opposite, the major is alive. Then you will argue that this is a duck ..

Quote: bouncyhunter

Hat of pure water!

The burden of proof lies with the approver.
He who claims to be dead must cite facts that confirm this.

[panov_panov]

He served in this military unit, personally acquainted with the officer. Unfortunately, really died (

[avia1991]

Quote: panov_panov

He served in this military unit, personally acquainted with the officer. Unfortunately, really died (

Perhaps he would have believed in this statement, but the date of your registration on the site is very suspicious: December 11, 2016 (!) of the year .
As soon as it appeared on the site, infa about the death of an officer immediately appears - and that's a coincidence! "SERVED IN ONE PIECE" .. I DO NOT BELIEVE in such "accidents", my dear.

[panov_panov]

I really registered on December 11, I recently attended this forum, at one time served in this military unit, in my time (after the withdrawal from Afghanistan) it was an airborne infantry regiment, I knew the regiment commanders (there were several of them in my time), I know and am familiar with many officers of this military unit, including with this battalion commander. Do not believe your right. Only this officer to my deep regret will not return (

[avia1991]

I will not argue with you. I don’t want to offend the memory of the deceased, if this is a fact, but there is too much garbage to take on faith. By the way, there are "Afghans" here. When did you leave? ..

[panov_panov]

I served in this military unit from 2004 to 2006, at that time it was 56 infantry regiment, by the way the regiment at that time was not of central subordination, it was part of 20 MSD.

[BISMARCK94]

Given that the Russian Defense Ministry loves not to report losses until infa appears from the side, it is inclined to believe the House of Culture. And why should he lie? Al-hoyed hackers hacked?

[alexhol]

When I see the news about the dead, I always want to ask the Russians, why is there no one else to fight for? Is Assad's power more valuable than the lives of these guys? I still remember the funeral of the "Afghan" neighbor 30 years ago and the sobbing of his mother over the closed coffin. Although, by the way, this is not the right site for reasoning about humanism, but high-precision weapons remain high-precision only on paper and in the reports of high-ranking military personnel (including American ones).

[avia1991]

Quote: alexhol

I always want to ask the Russians, and what more there is no one to fight for? Is Assad's power more valuable than the lives of these guys?

Better for your own. What Russia is fighting against terrorism in Syria for - Putin has long said clearly and clearly. And if, at the same time, it is possible to strengthen its influence in the Middle East and to control the world oil rivers more tightly, what’s wrong with that?
Can you tell me, by the way, WHAT did the Belarusians need, who fought in the "volunteer battalions" against the DPR-LPR?

[alexhol]

"world oil rivers" is of course good ... the bad thing is that whose baby was left without a father and how to explain to him about the "influence in the Middle East"? As for the Belarusians who fought, they are fighting on both sides of this civil war and this is punishable in our country. Recently. at the president's press conference for Russian journalists, a good answer was given for one patriot: "And that many children of these" hurray-patriotic "politicians shed their blood?

[avia1991]

Quote: alexhol

the bad thing is that whose baby was left without a father and how to explain to him about the "influence in the Middle East"?

Do not write nonsense!
If you have not served, do not try to judge those who have linked their lives to serving the Motherland! And this is not pathos, but the essence of the life of a military man. Including, the understanding that when performing a combat mission, a serviceman may die .. WITH HONOR FULFILLING YOUR MILITARY DUTY!
And a properly educated "kid" will be proud of his Father-Hero all his life! And the Motherland will be proud of him too ..
But they are not proud of "biomass" - it simply "is".
"In a gloomy crowd, and soon forgotten,
We’ll pass over the world without noise, without a trace,
Throwing not a fertile thought for centuries,
Not the genius of the work begun ... "
DO YOU REALLY BETTER THAN REALLY?

[alexhol]

Well, I can't connect the "world oil rivers" with serving the Motherland. Sorry.

[avia1991]

Quote: alexhol

I can't connect the "world oil rivers" and serving the Motherland.

I forgive you. This is all the more difficult for you to do because you do not have your own in Belarus. This is not a rebuke, but a statement: you get energy from Russia (and, by the way, you don’t pay very well!) Russia has to play this card as well, since control over oil-bearing regions is a key influence factor in many regions of the world. And it is the geopolitical interests of our country that our soldiers are now defending.
There is a struggle for redistribution of energy resources in the world - I suppose you will agree with this? Current and future conflicts are largely predetermined by precisely this interest. You, of course, find it difficult to understand that Russia - and our military! - defend in Syria not only the right to "be Russian", remaining a reliable friend for their allies, regardless of who is in power, but also the geopolitical interests of the entire "Russian world" and the countries of the former USSR! What do you think, if Russia turns out to be weak - will it not affect you in any way?! .. Belarus is alive, while Russia is alive. The stronger Russia is, the easier it is for Belarus. So - do not understand further, but look towards the Outskirts - in which case, it will be worse for you ..

[alexhol]

The economy of Belarus really depends on the state of affairs in Russia by 80% (the dollar exchange rate, for example, almost directly fluctuates from the exchange rate of the Russian ruble). And really, if anything, then we don't even need any "polite men". But Russia will not do this - there are simply NO other allies (well, at least not hostile states). As for the one whose interests are defended by the Russian soldiers ... Oil, gas, pipe ... try to continue the logical chain yourself.

[the lord]

But it would be worth it. How do you think become great nations and states? Only by gaining control over relevant resources in each era. And they are acquired precisely thanks to those who serve their homeland, helping to increase its influence.
No, of course, it’s good when Archimedes is born in your city, but only this product is piece-wise and inexcusably unpredictable.

[alexhol]

Do you think Russia is a great country because of the possession of the entire periodic table? The largest oil exporters, who are they? Great states? Think about it. can the possession of modern technology and a powerful economy make the state independent and strong today? Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq. Kuwait, Venezuela, Angola, Nigeria - wake up and reason with categories of the 19th century.

[avia1991]

Quote: alexhol

Think about it. can the possession of modern technology and a powerful economy make the state independent and strong today?

In a sense, yes .. let's remember about Japan? Malaysia, Singapore? South Korea! .. Israel .. it would seem - they must be the strongest! .. NO? But they are much more technologically advanced! Japan has a strong economy, as does South Korea. SO WHAT?
I am not against your thought. But only an economy combining one with the other can be really strong. And in order for such an alliance to be possible, effective levers are needed to control energy resources. NEED INFLUENCE. And it is achieved by the Good Word .. sitting on the armor, and armed to the teeth of a military man!
As for technology .. now block the gas pipe to Europe? .. They will not die - but the losses in the economy will be colossal! And if they block everything that is possible for us, what will happen? That's right - we will survive it. And they know this, and therefore they are furious - there is really little they can do
So technology is, of course, wellooo ..

[the lord]

You have a limited perception of resources. I just wrote "resources relevant in every era". Once it was a fertile land, then the presence of copper deposits was added, later - iron, even later - a combination of iron and coal. Previously, this made it possible to quickly equip their armies with modern weapons in large numbers and ultimately led to victory (although there were incidents when the invader was put to flight by those who were considered savages, and the Mongols against China, too). Now, thanks to the globalization of relations, many are gaining access to raw materials from other countries and the most skilled can succeed in the development of technologies that become that "actual resource". But the position of these countries is still more precarious than those who develop technologies and are rich in raw materials.
And about the listed countries, welcome to the neocolonial world. They are just objects of politics, not subjects, although some are very trying to get out of this.

[Readme]

Quote: Alexey-74

Kalmyk desa .... ???

You THIS in Kalmykia tell (ask) relatives and friends. The steppe is big. In spring grass will grow, livestock will eat it.

[Readme]

Quote: avia1991

Quote: panov_panov

He served in this military unit, personally acquainted with the officer. Unfortunately, really died (

Perhaps he would have believed in this statement, but the date of your registration on the site is very suspicious: December 11, 2016 (!) of the year .
As soon as it appeared on the site, infa about the death of an officer immediately appears - and that's a coincidence! "SERVED IN ONE PIECE" .. I DO NOT BELIEVE in such "accidents", my dear.

https://vk.com/photo-123538639_456245406

[avia1991]

Quote: Readme

https://vk.com/photo-123538639_456245406

Well? I can say that I saw a photo of a major - but I did not see a single photo from the event .. how so? Although the cross, or as they have adopted - but probably photographed!
By the way: do not really fit in, to be honest, these three photos with a general exposure of the community ...?
I do not assert and do not deny: there is no official information. And the "brother-soldier" who suddenly appeared on the site is all the more alarming.

[panov_panov]

It’s me who’s accidentally surfaced, I’m interested in introducing myself in my place, how can I prove that I really served in this military unit? (the service was from 2004 to 2006, then it was 56 airborne infantry fighting regiments, and you will be surprised then this unit was not of central subordination; I can call the regiment commander, chief of staff by last name, battalion commanders, but this is probably not entirely ethical).

[avia1991]

I already answered you, upstream.
You write strangely:

Quote: panov_panov

in my time (after the withdrawal from Afghanistan) it was a chipboard

and then:

Quote: panov_panov

(served from 2004 to 2006, then it was 56

So when was YOUR TIME - after leaving Afghanistan, or still in 2004-2006 ??
And one more thing: there is no need to prove so actively that you served, and you know everyone - this is all the more suspicious, like "Yes, I'm the daughter of an officer!" Everything will clear up over time.
I personally, if I want to make an opinion about a person, I go to his profile and read the comments .. you have one or two of them so far - and you’ve got a lot of money .. so we will be familiar! And we’ll see .. out there, I read Holuaya - immediately understand what I mean.

[panov_panov]

Having registered on December 11, you can't comment on much), to be honest, I didn't figure it out, I thought I entered into polemics with different people, but it turned out to be with the same person, so the comments are partially repeated. No, my time is 2004-2006. With regards to Afghanistan, there this unit was called 56 DShB (brigade), that's what I meant, after the withdrawal and reform the regiment became, and if memory serves, it was originally in Volgodonsk, then relocated to Kamyshin (to the place of the former engineering school). I saw the transition to a contract basis (it was a hard time). This is my first job in graduation. During the "Serdyukovschina" it again became a brigade. I understand the officer's daughter about the Crimean woman)))

[avia1991]

Quote: panov_panov

I understand the officer’s daughter about Crimean)))

Well and goodies
I did not want to offend you, but such coincidences cannot but cause caution. And all sorts of scoundrels on VO appear regularly - under intimate conversation they try to spread dirt and lies. We have "freedom of speech"!
So I repeat: we will be familiar
There will be questions on the site - do not hesitate to ask, people will prompt and help. Have a nice chat

[panov_panov]

We will be familiar!

[kirieeleyson]

“Reliable source of information”

OBS is called, Note is designed for stuffing with a bright headline, event marketing below the belt.

[Ckyy]

nenenenene - "patriots" believe only the news of the Republic of Tatarstan and the first channel - what kind of jellyfish? : 3

[himRa]

Quote: avia1991

Quote: himRa

if you really believe that Christian traditions can unite Russia, you are mistaken!

What kind of phenomenon did it come out of? And ON WHICH, ALLOW TO ASK ?!
Russia, Russia - traditionally Christian, although it was once pagan, true - but then Muslims did not even exist in plans! And since more than 80% of the population is Russian, it is natural that the unifying traditions are precisely Christian!
I do not like? YOUR PROBLEM. But not Russia, for sure.

,, the phenomenon is with you ,,!? I’d like to put it this way, you study the ignoramus, for example, what language did Afanasy Nikitin write and who are the Rus and Slovenians and why is it suddenly 80% !? because of such as you Ukrainians ceased to be ,, brothers, ”even if we take the official history as a basis, then for 300 years, all re..li and where are you ,, Russian ,,?
I don’t like it — your problem, but I express my point of view (your words) and don’t answer for the whole of Russia !!! from my cellar ...
Yes, once Christianity was a unifying idea, but you cannot enter the same river twice! and you can celebrate the November 4 holiday in your cellar!

[sogdianec]

Another wise guy got out, at least he taught the materiel. The ethnic composition of Russia is 80% Russian. Anyone who has Russian as their native language and who is familiar with Russian culture, who can proudly say that he is Russian, can consider himself Russian. Russian culture includes, among other things, Orthodoxy, i.e., Christianity. And no matter what blood flows through your veins and who your grandmother or grandfather is.

[himRa]

Quote: sogdianec

Another wise guy got out, at least he taught the materiel. The ethnic composition of Russia is 80% Russian. Anyone who has Russian as their native language and who is familiar with Russian culture, who can proudly say that he is Russian, can consider himself Russian. Russian culture includes, among other things, Orthodoxy, i.e., Christianity. And no matter what blood flows through your veins and who your grandmother or grandfather is.

,, crawled out, I’ve already long ago when maybe you weren’t in the project yet, a history buff, I’m proud that the Soviet one was and still am! There is no Russian world, there are remnants of the Soviet world — for me, yes, and we speak the Turkic language well or in his dialect, from what everyone says, the Russian field, the Russian forest, etc. it will not become such! if the need for unification is the base can not serve people who went up on business with tobacco and alcohol, that is, the head of the Christian church and clergy compromised on drunkenness and perversions ..
according to the materiel: http://www.adji.ru/ and the like, read it at your leisure, maybe you won’t so clearly state it !?

[sogdianec]

Wake up comrade! What a century in the yard. There was never a Soviet language, but Russian. If you are ashamed that you are Russian, then you can not worry, you really are not Russian. If you think that you speak the Turkic language, then congratulations, you are a Turk. What's the point of being proud of a country that has collapsed, isn't it your personal fault? I also grew up and matured in the USSR, but I have always considered myself Russian, not cosmopolitan "Soviet". Time is running out, there will be no return to the USSR. Even an alliance with former brothers "Ukrainians" is not expected in the next fifty years. Now, Russia will not be spoiled by its new homeland while talking about the former greatness of the destroyed country.

[himRa]

we’re not profucing! my sons will certainly fight! people don’t change in spite of ,, new times ,, having a strong foundation, the foundation can be sure! and such a foundation, it seems, should be an ancient story than we tried to impose, an ancient Chinese one, etc. .
There have always been great empires on this earth, and there is strong archaeological evidence for this!
was there no Soviet language? but where did the words communism, party, working class, etc. come from?
no fault of mine - I voted for the USSR with arms to go out and could not kill my own!
There is no American language, but there is a fact that the American and the Englishman may not understand each other!
with respect.

[sogdianec]

1 . You want to say that Russian civilization is older than Chinese? No comment, yourself not funny?
2. According to your logic, if the people do not have a long history, then there are no grounds for patriotism? Then in all countries of Latin and North America there should be no patriots at all? And the Egyptians - every patriot of their homeland?
3. Your pearl about the Soviet language is a joke for the philologist, I do not comment.
4 American language is. This is probably a discovery for you.


I thought that the Soviet man’s pride was overcoming the civil war, industrialization, the Victory over Nazi Germany, Gagarin, Korolev, the friendship of peoples, that is, a short but vivid history of the Soviet Motherland.
And you base your patriotism on archaeological research and historical theories that are not always true. And tomorrow they will prove that our history is not more than several centuries, so what to get into the noose?

[himRa]

1 ancient, it was called differently, but people, ancestors, are the same
2-no, the creoles of South America are the same
3-you will argue that a lot of concepts and words are Soviet and not only from the Russian language?
4-which of the American languages ​​do you mean English or Spanish (more than 60%) or Chinese?
Right you think.
Do not prove! archaeological dating methods are accessible to all and unchanged!

[avia1991]

Quote: sogdianec

If you are ashamed that you are Russian, then you can not worry, you really are not Russian.

Strong! And for sure

[sogdianec]

I confess, not my words, I didn’t accurately quote Dostoevsky.

[avia1991]

Quote: sogdianec

I confess, not my words, I didn’t accurately quote Dostoevsky.

This is not so important - the essence is important! For it is true.

[avia1991]

Quote: himRa

and you can celebrate the November 4 holiday in your cellar!

!!!
I will briefly answer your pompous attack: my holiday is November 7th! And if you don’t consider yourself Russian, go to your ... what’s at YOU? And put your order there.

[himRa]

Go wherever you want! I do not consider myself Russian! I know my ancestors up to 5 knees and there are photos up to 3 and lived on the street where the old people knew my grandfather, father.
the order (law) we have one and adopted (voted) also the Criminal Code and the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, by the way and the holiday on November 7 the same

[sogdianec]

Quote: panov_panov

He served in this military unit, personally acquainted with the officer. Unfortunately, really died (

Stars do not roll bags. In wartime, people like you shot for spreading alarmist rumors.

[avia1991]

Quote: sogdianec

In wartime, people like you shot for spreading alarmist rumors.

Do not rush to conclusions. Until the guy said anything supernatural ..

[sogdianec]

Quote: panov_panov

It’s me who’s accidentally surfaced, I’m interested in introducing myself in my place, how can I prove that I really served in this military unit? (the service was from 2004 to 2006, then it was 56 airborne infantry fighting regiments, and you will be surprised then this unit was not of central subordination; I can call the regiment commander, chief of staff by last name, battalion commanders, but this is probably not entirely ethical).

Chatterbox is a godsend for the spy. The concept of non-disclosure, do you have?

[panov_panov]

Quote: sogdianec

Quote: panov_panov

He served in this military unit, personally acquainted with the officer. Unfortunately, really died (

Stars do not roll bags. In wartime, people like you shot for spreading alarmist rumors.

Why do you think I'm lying !? The officer died on a business trip while on duty, with alarmist rumors here! He honestly fulfilled his military duty. Yes, there is no official MORF comment yet, but I think it will be later. I repeat, I served in this military unit, so I have a little more information. Personally, I recommend that you first think and then shoot! More serious sources yet:
http://korrespondent.net/world/3788384-v-syryy-ub
yt-esche-odyn-rossyiskyi-ofytser-smy
http://www.newsru.com/world/19dec2016/sanchirov.h
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[sogdianec]

I apologize for being rude. Even if you are knowledgeable, do not write everything rashly. Think about the fact that your messages can be read by enemies and provocateurs and your information will be presented in a different light. For example, as proof that "Russian troops are suffering huge losses in Syria or Ukraine and are hiding it from the people."

[panov_panov]

I agree "Meduza" is still a resource, but for the sake of objectivity in this case, unfortunately, this article is true. Personally, I do not classify myself as a "Hurray" patriot, but I also do not classify myself as "EVERYTHING IS LOST". At this stage, there are no absolutely contactless wars, losses are inevitable, especially with so many interested parties, and in such a theater of operations. I will voice my opinion in terms of hiding information about losses, especially in my opinion, the truth is better (both in terms of memory of the victims and in terms of faith in our own media, faith in a country that will not forget you, and in the end you will not look stupid when the facts come up) ... A striking example of UKROSMI I am sure and I know that even the most Svidomo Great Ukrainian trusts little of his media or the information of his Armed Forces, and how to believe when the corpses of their servicemen are still being dug in the boilers. Something like this PS: do not rush to shoot)))

[panov_panov]

Quote: sogdianec

Quote: panov_panov

It’s me who’s accidentally surfaced, I’m interested in introducing myself in my place, how can I prove that I really served in this military unit? (the service was from 2004 to 2006, then it was 56 airborne infantry fighting regiments, and you will be surprised then this unit was not of central subordination; I can call the regiment commander, chief of staff by last name, battalion commanders, but this is probably not entirely ethical).

Chatterbox is a godsend for the spy. The concept of non-disclosure, do you have?

Therefore, I do not disclose)

[sogdianec]

Quote: CKyHC

nenenenene - "patriots" believe only the news of the Republic of Tatarstan and the first channel - what kind of jellyfish? : 3

Yes, you’re right, the Russian media are crazy. I’m sad myself. Could you, my dear sir, tell me which channels, the media of which countries carry the unshaded light of the ultimate truth to the masses, where is that life-giving source of truth and justice for the fooled Kisilev-Solovevsky propaganda? What is the icon of honest journalism for you?

Ukrosmi?

[avia1991]

Quote: sogdianec

What is the icon of honest journalism for you?

So he told you!
I understand your desire to put "tavarischa" in place - but maybe it's better to just "not notice"? Since we have been deprived of the opportunity to drive the zaslanets into the "skulls", I believe that IGNOR will be a completely effective way of fighting. Complete and unanimous. Otherwise, everything will stink.

[himRa]

menacingly to glance and be silent!
oh ... yes ... and pinch your nose! yes it will be better
sorry could not resist!

[sogdianec]

Quote: himRa

Go wherever you want! I do not consider myself Russian! I know my ancestors up to 5 knees and there are photos up to 3 and lived on the street where the old people knew my grandfather, father.
the order (law) we have one and adopted (voted) also the Criminal Code and the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, by the way and the holiday on November 7 the same

Excuse me, sir, a question, not a question, but a tiny question. And what will happen to you if it emerges that your great-great-great-grandfather is in the tenth generation, suddenly turns out, horror, to be a Jew or an Arab. Well, or at worst a Negro. After all, the Great Russian Poet had a Negro grandfather. And then what to do, where to run? To your historical homeland? But what about the saying: "If you dig any Russian, it will turn out to be a Tatar"? You are doing the right thing to remember your ancestors, but being proud of their nationality is not entirely true, it is much more important to know what good they have done and achieved, and nationality is the tenth thing.
If you dig history very deeply, then you can make the discovery that our ancestors were Cro-Magnon, will you build your patriotism on this fact?

[himRa]

so you yourself have come to the conclusion that the unifying (us) idea should be out national then she has the right to life
I’m proud of my ancestors not because they were of a certain nationality, but because they lived on this earth from ancient times, cultivated, defended, and before that I was able to master

proud of their nationality is not quite true

Great Russian Poet

some kind of double standards policy

But what about the saying: "If you dig any Russian, it will turn out to be a Tatar"?

why not admit that we have one basis - Turk?