Under the Palmyra into the hands of the militants fell Russian "Snake Gorynych"

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Retreating from Palmyra, Syrian troops, among other equipment, abandoned the UR-83P mine clearance plant, also known as “Serpent Gorynych”, which was used this spring when the city was liberated from terrorists. Messenger of Mordovia.

Under the Palmyra into the hands of the militants fell Russian "Snake Gorynych"




“UR-83P serves for making passages in minefields. With the help of special rocket engines, a special charge is thrown at the minefield, which, exploding, destroys mines, including the most modern modifications. In total, more than 1300 kg of explosives can be abandoned at a distance of up to 440 m, ”explains the author of the article, Roman Katkov.

Installation weight - 1800 kg, calculation - 2 person. The width of the pass is up to 6 meters.

For transportation installation previously used ZIL-131. In Syria, GAZ-3308 Sadko and Ural-4320 were used for this purpose.

“Military experts point out that, judging by the photographic materials that have fallen into the network, the installation of the UR-83P is not in the equipped state, and is absolutely safe. To use it, we need the appropriate skills and special equipment, which the terrorists do not have, ”the author concludes.
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  1. +7
    16 December 2016 10: 35
    What kind of source is this? what kind of media? in my opinion it is a beard and nothing more !!! Moscow Defense Ministry said yesterday that nothing serious had come to the bearded men.
    1. PAM
      +21
      16 December 2016 10: 40
      about how much and what they threw the horseradish you’ll understand, but how quickly the defender combed it off is surprising, although they claim the destruction of a large number of attackers (only with words without video evidence)
      1. +10
        16 December 2016 10: 46
        There really is not clear what is happening - a mess and panic.
        1. +4
          16 December 2016 14: 34
          Quote: cniza
          There really is not clear what is happening - a mess and panic.

          All combat-ready and personnel units were thrown at Aleppo, the so-called Shabikha + several militias from different tribal groups covered the palmyra, and the Igilovites there were ideological and inveterate suicide bombings on lightly armored vehicles. So the Syrians ran. It’s not how much was captured now that there’s nothing modern, there wasn’t anything mountain before the military.
          1. PAM
            0
            16 December 2016 18: 17
            there was nothing modern
            damn what difference do you have been hit with a modern bullet or since the cold war (when properly stored, ammunition of 60 gs still shoots great). And the ammunition there was a good trip to the shooters' minds and weapons to various portable mortars and grenade launchers, judging by the video on the networks.
      2. +3
        16 December 2016 11: 26
        Part of the Afghans who fought there ran and the other remained at the heights and stood to the last. Different units are fighting in the Syrian army. The professional units were under pain near Aleppo. So it’s not so easy and simple. In Palmyra, it’s not so bad and deadly. Although this is a minus.
      3. +2
        16 December 2016 11: 29
        According to the pictures. as the barmalei advanced, it was clear that there was a cauldron. They broke through it and took everyone out, but limited in time and tonnage
      4. +7
        16 December 2016 13: 56
        Yesterday in "FM Vesti" they said that the first was the deputy. Chief of the General Staff of Syria, then the commander of a tank division (as he ended up there) and commanders of a lower rank, and only then all the others fled. The only thing that gives relief is that the war is still a civil war, and this is a mess in all respects. Although it is bitter and insulting to help such warriors. This is no help for Vietnam, there were no soldiers there for the Arabs.
      5. 0
        16 December 2016 20: 37
        PAM, perhaps, have heard such wisdom: "the beaten one must pile on the offender, but the offender does not know about that
    2. +2
      16 December 2016 10: 45
      Is photography a beard? MO could consider that this thing is not serious. Although what the Defense Ministry says also needs to be shared.
    3. +2
      16 December 2016 10: 51
      What's so serious about him? The same popular "Shot" cost several times more.
      1. +6
        16 December 2016 11: 09
        And when did the Arabs just seriously fought))? Israel somehow simultaneously simultaneously four Arab goswam lyuley natsedil more than once
        1. +4
          16 December 2016 14: 18
          Why did you have to organize concerts there? You are my suitcases, without handles
          Afghans? Do they have enough of their own business at home?
          When did the Arabs fight? And in Syria, the Arabs? All graduates of Soviet schools and their children in command posts, with Soviet education, too. And look at the Palestinian commanders with blue eyes. Moms from the USSR, folders studied there
      2. +6
        16 December 2016 11: 39
        Well, what really happened, if you think about it? One of the belligerents seized military equipment from the other. For War - an ordinary event. It’s shitty that our allies have our technique - yes. But nothing unusual, although anger, of course, gnaws.
    4. 0
      16 December 2016 11: 34
      What kind of source is this? what kind of media? in my opinion it is a beard and nothing more !!! Moscow Defense Ministry said yesterday that nothing serious had come to the bearded men.


      Courage 2004. What has no one heard?
      I really do too.
      1. +7
        16 December 2016 11: 49
        A video with this installation appeared on the first day, she stood in the former camp of our sappers. Any attentive could see her there. And do not think of anything here about fakes and tragedy, there the T-72s were thrown in not small quantities, but these are trifles.
  2. +11
    16 December 2016 10: 35
    give the doo.raku a glass ... ball, it will either break or cut ... it's interesting to see the whole list of "gifts".
    1. +5
      16 December 2016 10: 48
      words are already lacking about the Syrian army. I’m talking about the feeling that they do not perceive this war as a "patriotic" one. Allies, damn it
      1. +21
        16 December 2016 10: 50
        Quote: Mikado
        words are already lacking about the Syrian army. I’m talking about the feeling that they do not perceive this war as a "patriotic" one. Allies, damn it

        ha ... so it’s not so domestic, but rather clanish. and we were attached, so that the Americans did not occupy the entire sandbox.
      2. +21
        16 December 2016 10: 51
        Quote: Mikado
        I’m talking about the feeling that they do not perceive this war as a "patriotic" one. Allies, damn it

        Why? German women feel and trample, much nicer than fighting for their homeland. Yes, allies.
        1. +11
          16 December 2016 11: 00
          yeah. When half of the men prefer to flee "to the Germans" instead of defending their homeland, there is nothing to add. Aleppo was released - there are a lot of mature men on the footage. The question is why they are not in the army. Are they waiting for the barmaley to dishonor their women?
          1. +6
            16 December 2016 11: 41
            Quote: Mikado
            Aleppo was released - there are many quite mature men on the frames


            They ask the Syrian: “Well, are you glad that Russia liberated your hometown of Aleppo?” - Of course, glad! After all, that's why I now live in Germany! I hope forever ...
            1. +1
              16 December 2016 11: 44
              sad joke, somehow .. drinks
          2. +5
            16 December 2016 12: 19
            Yes, they are so passive that, you see, soon they will begin to dishonor them!
          3. Fox
            +9
            16 December 2016 14: 01
            Quote: Mikado
            there are many quite mature men on the frames. The question is, why are they not in the army.

            the same question can be asked in Donetsk with Lugansk ...
      3. +2
        16 December 2016 11: 30
        then dr allies choose, and throw these?
      4. +10
        16 December 2016 12: 32
        Quote: Mikado
        words are already lacking about the Syrian army. I’m talking about the feeling that they do not perceive this war as a "patriotic" one. Allies, damn it

        And you look carefully who is fighting in the Syrian army ... Iraqis, Iranians, Libyans, Russians (Chechens), ki
        Thais and Hezbola ... this is in addition to the Syrians themselves. It is ridiculous to say that the Syrian army is staffed by the Syrian military alone. There is such a hodgepodge in the army that Mama Do not Cry ...
      5. +9
        16 December 2016 12: 53
        Quote: Mikado
        words are already lacking about the Syrian army. I’m talking about the feeling that they do not perceive this war as a "patriotic" one. Allies, damn it

        What other patriotic? This is a civil war where the Alawites (less than 10% of the population) are trying to maintain absolute power led by the Assad ... but at the same time not to be torn apart by the same "moderate" and other barmaley.
        Fighting in Syria, not only ISIS but also half of the former army of Assad on the side of the militia. If not for the external "help" (from the same barmaley as Ksir Hezbollah ...) which is perceived by the local population as an occupation, then the Assad was gone.
        1. +2
          16 December 2016 13: 10
          if other barmalei (for example, ISIS) come to power and chop their heads, would it be better? I doubt ..
        2. +1
          22 December 2016 08: 48
          Why are you deceiving people? The war there has not been civil for a long time, but with invaders from neighboring states. And at the head of this entire international invasion army are your comrades from Mossad.
  3. 0
    16 December 2016 10: 49
    A lot of noise ... dust ... fog ... but in fact, PALMIRA is like a suitcase without a handle ... you seem to own it.
    Just a crossroads of traffic ... soon a bearded uncle from the traffic police with a wand will come up ... would have to pay for the violation.
    1. +1
      16 December 2016 21: 12
      There was a lot of noise and concerts when her Russian - Syrian troops captured. The concert was given, if forgotten, with the cellist famous... Reconsider, if not difficult, the news was growing media of that time. And how about ... is it so immediately and a suitcase without a handle?
  4. +2
    16 December 2016 10: 52
    To use it, you need appropriate skills and special equipment, which terrorists do not have

    Let's hope so. But throwing equipment when retreating is somehow not good. Otherwise, this is not a retreat (i.e., a type of hostilities), but an ordinary flight from the battlefield.
    1. +12
      16 December 2016 11: 32
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But throwing equipment when retreating is somehow not good. Otherwise, this is not a retreat (i.e., a type of hostilities), but an ordinary flight from the battlefield.

      Historically, it has been noticed that for Arabs to abandon equipment and topple over, saving the ass - this is completely normal behavior. Zhoppa, she’s alone, but they’ll still give me the equipment.
      1. +3
        16 December 2016 11: 35
        This is what causes grief and misunderstanding in Russian.
      2. +6
        16 December 2016 12: 32
        Not only Arabs fled there, abandoning everything.
        1. +5
          16 December 2016 14: 02
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Not only Arabs fled there, abandoning everything.

          Alexei (if I remember correctly), are you hinting that ours, too, were draped? So if so, what was left to do if everyone was washed away? A handful to defend a strange city, which, as it turned out, the Syrians themselves do not need nafig? Although I doubt very much that our servicemen were there.
        2. +1
          16 December 2016 14: 33
          A part ran and a part also went to ISIS.
        3. +2
          17 December 2016 15: 06
          That is, it was necessary for 10-20 Russian guys to die, seeing how the natives of this country dump?
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      3. +5
        16 December 2016 14: 47
        Historically, it has been noticed that for Arabs to abandon equipment and topple over, saving the ass - this is completely normal behavior. Zhoppa, she’s alone, but they’ll still give me the equipment.

        Aleppo ... Zhoppa ... there is something in common in these words wassat
  5. 0
    16 December 2016 10: 53
    Without a detonating cord, this thing is not dangerous. The cords were involved in the assault, but now the bays are not visible ... wassat
    Let them try laughing
  6. 0
    16 December 2016 10: 55
    “Military experts note that, judging by the photo materials that got into the network, the UR-83P installation is not in running order, and is absolutely safe

    Is there anyone rummaging around in question?
    Is it by accident that the cable with the BB is outweighed through the port side?
    1. +1
      16 December 2016 11: 00
      It is similar in color.
  7. +1
    16 December 2016 10: 55
    This is old Soviet equipment and where it fell into the hands of militants and when it is not realistic to judge.
    1. 0
      16 December 2016 15: 23
      Quote: Bering Strait
      This is an old Soviet technique

      In 1972, the Serpent Gorynych was used in the exercises.
  8. +1
    16 December 2016 10: 59
    Quote: salat
    What kind of source is this? what kind of media? in my opinion it is a beard and nothing more !!! Moscow Defense Ministry said yesterday that nothing serious had come to the bearded men.

    look at youtube as they walk around the abandoned tent city, there it is.
    1. 0
      17 December 2016 00: 20
      You were told that they "declared" and even probably on the first channel they said! Why watch something else? : 3
  9. +5
    16 December 2016 11: 13
    This is a small camp (read the charter of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation) our sappers who cleared Palmyra (obviously it’s not pulling at the base according to what they saw, our minimum of equipment and armaments remains - this is not rocket base or artillery), he was captured by the barmaley (yes, this is a disaster), but in a month, two will be beaten back ((if necessary) like the whole of Palmyra)) that now to make a "show" of this now, everything is clear about ... ...
  10. +3
    16 December 2016 11: 13
    According to some reports, the Syrians drapanul from the T-4 base with the first shots, the Syrian command was the first to drap the Syrian soldiers behind them, the Syrian soldiers
    .
    The Russian base guard battalion - held back the barmalei for half a day while evacuating, then retreated in perfect order and without loss.
    The main warehouses were undermined - not so much for the barmalians.

    The Syrian army - those are still warriors ...
    This is what M Khodarenok says about the capture of Palmyra.
    http://radiovesti.ru/episode/show/episode_id/4278
    4
    1. +1
      16 December 2016 11: 52
      it appears from your message that the T4 base is left. but this is not so.
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    3. 0
      17 December 2016 00: 19
      they didn’t say that ours went on the counter-offensive? and they reached Israel already ... but did they give the command to retreat? no? what is the country? АААннноОООо: 3
  11. 0
    16 December 2016 11: 24
    This video is available on YouTube in Arabic. It looks like "Snake" .... In addition, the Islamists got boxes with AK, horns to them ... I did not see the equipment.
    1. +4
      16 December 2016 13: 38
      Technique here, but it's just that on the streets of the city. + They picked up the tank’s 2 along the road (fuel ran out or broke down while running away from the farm). At high-altitude near the city of T-55 and T-62 + 2 BMP and battery D30. In the fields of the 2-3 tank, guns.


      For example, the captured M-46 has already been launched by Black into the case of T4.
  12. +4
    16 December 2016 11: 27
    Military experts note that, judging by the photo materials that got into the network, the UR-83P installation is not in running order, and is absolutely safe

    I don't know what these "experts" are, but I would not indulge in complacency
  13. 0
    16 December 2016 11: 32
    Quote: cniza
    There really is not clear what is happening - a mess and panic.

    Well this is Arabs ... It's always like that ...
  14. +1
    16 December 2016 11: 40
    no but retreat could be destroyed?
  15. 0
    16 December 2016 11: 43
    Could monkeys undermine? So they faded that the Syrian warriors left ... I think the Ministry of Defense simply does not tell the public how much and what the Syrian Warriors threw ... Everything is much sadder there. The question is not even what the terrorists left and couldn’t deal with the equipment, but even ... But its samples can be sold (exchanged) to anyone ... the USA, for example. Do not give them anything, they do not know how to use and cherish let them fight with a stick and stones.
    1. +2
      16 December 2016 11: 53
      and another question-question why didn’t the wizards come in and fill everything there?
      1. 0
        16 December 2016 16: 58
        Good question. Exactly the same as why wizards missed Palmyra? Well, these rams, but ours then!
        1. 0
          16 December 2016 21: 13
          Power is clearly exaggerated. It's time for the fools to shut up. Crap our VKS.
  16. +1
    16 December 2016 11: 48
    Quote: Mikado
    Aleppo was released - there are a lot of completely mature men on the frames.


    Now it becomes clearer why the media almost always uses the unctuous epithet "civilians" instead of "civilians".
  17. +3
    16 December 2016 11: 58
    the story near Palmyra clearly showed why the war in Syria still lasts and its end is not yet visible
  18. 0
    16 December 2016 12: 41
    What is the noise? What will the barmaley do with this "gornychem"? And how many shots did they get?
  19. +3
    16 December 2016 13: 48
    Quote: DimerVladimer
    According to some reports, the Syrians drapanul from the T-4 base with the first shots, the Syrian command was the first to drap the Syrian soldiers behind them, the Syrian soldiers
    .
    The Russian base guard battalion - held back the barmalei for half a day while evacuating, then retreated in perfect order and without loss.
    The main warehouses were undermined - not so much for the barmalians.

    The Syrian army - those are still warriors ...
    This is what M Khodarenok says about the capture of Palmyra.
    http://radiovesti.ru/episode/show/episode_id/4278
    4

    your untruth.
    they knew about the accumulation of barmaley in advance. When reporting, the management replied, wait, there will be help. In total, there were more than 3t soldiers in Palmyra, including 18 and 11 divisions, 500 tigers, a lot of people from militias and all sorts of greens. At the start of the offensive, the green ran away. The 18th division withdrew after a tank bombing with a suicide bomber. 11, too, most fled. half of the tigers left under the pretext of non-payment of salaries for 5 months. In total, 500-600 fighters remained to defend the city. The panic began when the Russian soldiers blew up their warehouses and left. I do not presume to condemn them, maybe the order was what. but only they had a lot of manual anti-tank, which was blown up. and the rest of the troops did not have this and met the barracks with almost bare hands. those in each direction went from 2 to 4 tanks. Barmalei in army uniforms leaked to the rear and hit in the back. some units of the Syrians, surrounded, fought to the last man. it’s not for us to blame them for cowardice. so there weren’t any of our heroic restraints. ours have safely left ...
    1. 0
      16 December 2016 21: 15
      This is very similar to the truth.
      This is a good reason to clean the general staff.
  20. +1
    16 December 2016 14: 21
    They learned nothing from Afghanistan, except how to sing praises on TV
    1. +1
      16 December 2016 15: 25
      They learned nothing from Afghanistan, except how to sing praises on TV

      I would have a sword and a horse, yes to the line of fire! (C) laughing
      another ANALYTIC? or so ... did he come in old-fashioned way?
      1. +1
        16 December 2016 15: 52
        Not an analyst, but a practitioner. And had to shoot and hide. You are my helmsmen
    2. 0
      17 December 2016 00: 16
      smart learns from his mistakes, but does not learn at all))) and why are you offending our army? the last loot is thrown into it ... "patriots" are offended: 3
      1. 0
        22 December 2016 15: 54
        Quote: CKyHC
        smart learns from his mistakes, but does not learn at all))) and yes that you offend our army? the last loot is thrown in ... "patriots" are offended:3

        ===
        understandable enthusiasm ukrov, west and other, but why do you "fun" that patriots are offended that the last loot is thrown in, or what is thrown into the army?
  21. +2
    16 December 2016 16: 59
    Quote: Vz.58
    Why did you have to organize concerts there?

    Gergiev did a good job, but our advisers and military experts screwed up great. Now, those who stayed (many have washed the withers) and scratch their turnips.
  22. 0
    16 December 2016 21: 14
    The Syrians had such attitudes and so. At least one of the video applications of the Serpent Gorynych appeared in the summer of 2015, for example.
  23. +1
    17 December 2016 00: 14
    and they didn’t find any violins from the concert? otherwise terrorists have enough skills and special equipment to use it: 3
  24. +1
    17 December 2016 11: 56
    Quote: Yuyuka
    They learned nothing from Afghanistan, except how to sing praises on TV

    I would have a sword and a horse, yes to the line of fire! (C) laughing
    another ANALYTIC? or so ... did he come in old-fashioned way?

    This is the first time you see him on the forum? Whatever the message, the “blowing the winds.”
  25. 0
    17 December 2016 19: 49
    Unable to organize block posts
  26. 0
    20 December 2016 15: 58
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    Quote: cniza
    There really is not clear what is happening - a mess and panic.

    All combat-ready and personnel units were thrown at Aleppo, the so-called Shabikha + several militias from different tribal groups covered the palmyra, and the Igilovites there were ideological and inveterate suicide bombings on lightly armored vehicles. So the Syrians ran. It’s not how much was captured now that there’s nothing modern, there wasn’t anything mountain before the military.


    Just don't blah blah about "shabiha + several militias from different tribal groups" ... in addition to the regular Syrian military, there were so-called militias in the amount of 1000 people, about 500 "tigers", 120 special forces of the RF Ministry of Defense, as well as Afghans- mercenaries from the Iranian brigade "Fatamayun". All of them fled from Palmyra, and one of the first to flee was Russian servicemen ... am
  27. 0
    23 December 2016 01: 23
    Quote: Chief Mechanic
    one of the first to flee was the Russian military ...

    And where does this information come from, haven't you seen it yourself? Fuck, not tossing bags, but sources in the studio, please.
    1. 0
      23 December 2016 03: 36
      So, by the end, does anyone have accurate and objective information about whether the Russians were in the base guard, how many there were and how heroically they behaved if they were present there?

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