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General Townsend (USA): "Russia and Syria must counterattack the Ishilians in Palmyra"

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American General Stephen Townsend, commander of the so-called coalition troops, who is also the person who gave a direct order to suspend the operation against ISIS (prohibited in the Russian Federation) in Raqqah and Deir-ez-Zor until spring, said that Russia and Syria "will soon time must take a counterattack on igilovtsev in Palmyra. "


Townsend said that the ISIL militants "got something that looked like victory, and in the near future Russia and the Assad regime will have to do it."
US General (quote RIA News):

We are following this.


General Townsend (USA): "Russia and Syria must counterattack the Ishilians in Palmyra"


Next from Townsend sounded a mysterious statement:
If they (Syria and Russia) do not do this, we will do what we need to do to protect ourselves.


So you already did everything ... They ordered the cessation of air attacks on terrorist positions in the north-east of the SAR to be given a free hand to ISIS militants, who were able to quickly transfer substantial forces to the Palmyra region. By the way, there are still questions, how did it happen that up to 5 thousand fighters actually secretly moved about 200-odd kilometers with a large number of units of military equipment, including Tanks. Has the American “partners” provided some help in this “to protect themselves,” as Mr. General puts it?

From the cynical statement of Townsend:
They could not consolidate the acquisition, distracted from the ball in the game, and the enemy took advantage of this situation.
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  1. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 December 2016 06: 26
    +12
    What will you do - officially put igil on rations in the US army, equip them with your own weapons, oblige the United States to swear allegiance to every igilovite - that is, legitimize the real state of affairs, because without you the igil would have fled and jumped to visit you
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 15 December 2016 06: 34
      +4
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      What do you do, officially put the igles on contentment in the US Army, arm them with your weapons,


      Now they will officially do it. Or rather they have already done it.

      And WE, who did not expect this (where are the intelligence and analysts of the General Staff?) Profiled Palmyra ...
      1. Hariton laptev
        Hariton laptev 15 December 2016 08: 20
        +4
        Well, since this commander is just trying to persuade him to launch a counterattack, it’s clear that they didn’t manage without their knowledge, and that certainly didn’t go according to their plan, which means that the reconnaissance worked, and they did everything right. That is precisely why he states that if there is no counterattack, they will do something there. Well, what a flag in their hands and a drum on their neck and on foot ero tour.
        1. letinant
          letinant 15 December 2016 10: 11
          +1
          I am very interested in who is sitting in Alleppo ?! If the Americans went for such an operation to disrupt the liberation in this city. After all, miracles do not happen.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 15 December 2016 12: 43
            +2
            how did it happen that up to 5 thousand fighters actually secretly moved about 200-odd kilometers with a large number of units of military equipment, including tanks. Has the American “partners” given any help in this?

            Well, actually this is a joint of our intelligence. Or does the author hint that the Barmalei were put on American military transport planes and dropped off by landing?
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 15 December 2016 13: 04
              +7
              Russia and Syria have counterattack igilovtsev in Palmyra

              Should ??? Who - you mattresses? You yourself know how to fight only with 10-fold superiority, and will you still teach ??? D.B. am am am
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 15 December 2016 16: 58
                0
                If they (Syria and Russia) do not do this, we will do what we need to do to protect ourselves.

                In order to do this, you need an invitation card from Assad. If there’s no such thing, you won’t do anything.
            2. 1959ain
              1959ain 15 December 2016 13: 47
              0
              This is not a jamb of intelligence, no one could imagine that the Syrian army would run after the first shot, but it was necessary to mine the approaches.
        2. WKS
          WKS 17 December 2016 12: 09
          0
          Quote: Hariton Laptev
          That is precisely why he states that if there is no counterattack, they will do something there.

          What a brazen general with a rookie mind.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 15 December 2016 10: 12
        +9
        Quote: Titsen
        And WE, who did not expect this (where are the intelligence and analysts of the General Staff?) Profiled Palmyra ...

        Our military didn’t do anything there. Our VKS worked out as they should, putting a bunch of spirits near the walls of Palmyra, bombing them continuously. And our helicopter pilots even plow cleaner pilots at heights where it’s easy to get them.
        The idea of ​​ISIS (USA and Co.) was that we and the Syrians should draw some of our forces from Aleppo to Palmyra in order to weaken the group in Aleppo. The mattresses are stuck with Mosul, and we and the ATS are clearing the remains of ISIS forces in Aleppo. Our coalition did not fall for this move, and now these spirits are in Palmyra, for the USA, as a suitcase without a handle. Very soon, this Igilov group will begin to experience a shortage of food, ammunition, etc., and they will be quietly finished there. And today we have the priority direction Idlip, where I think and move parts from Aleppo. And this fact cannot be liked by mattresses, because Idlib is not Aleppo, and they will clean it up relatively quickly. Well, then Rakka, in which mattresses really want to be the first to find themselves. Thus declaring himself the true winners of Isil. But while they were stuck in Mosul, and I think for a very long time.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 15 December 2016 15: 58
          +1
          "Our VKS worked as it should, putting a bunch of spirits near the walls of Palmyra, bombing them continuously." ///

          There is no confirmation of this. There is not even evidence of the fact of air raids.
          Eyewitnesses spoke of explosions of shahid mobiles, an arsenal explosion made by Russians, but
          no one talked about any planes or bombs.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 15 December 2016 18: 47
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            There is no confirmation of this. There is not even evidence of the fact of air raids.

            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 16 December 2016 02: 44
              +1
              Here is precisely this message from the Moscow Region and there is no evidence from the scene.
              Neither the residents of Palmyra, nor the Syrian soldiers reported either flying planes or bombings in the vicinity. There are no shootings of the bombing itself, nor pictures of the bomb craters.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 15 December 2016 06: 27
    +12
    A clever adversary ... skillfully these generals hogged us and Assad ...
    Blaming them for this is pointless this is their job ... but our staff and intelligence need to enter a pendal ... blinked.
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 15 December 2016 06: 40
      +7
      but our staffers and intelligence must enter the pendal ... they blinked.

      Actions are dictated primarily by the presence of forces and means. Ours that they could - did, it is air support.
      And the Syrians simply do not have enough strength. A couple of Syrian battalions were sitting in Palmyra, and they were unlikely to be of full strength, a maximum of a thousand people, five times more forces went against them.
      The loss of Palmyra is, first and foremost, the loss of Syria.
      1. 78bor1973
        78bor1973 15 December 2016 07: 29
        +7
        There were about 4000 soldiers in Palmyra, after the first strike, the 18th division simply left the city, the remaining 1500 people with limited weapons simply could not do anything!
      2. Mahmut
        Mahmut 15 December 2016 12: 50
        +2
        A couple of Syrian battalions were sitting in Palmyra, and they were unlikely to be of full strength, a maximum of a thousand people, five times more forces went against them.

        That's just the point that sat. Quite a normal ratio with correctly set defense. Why the captured tanks are on the streets of the city, and not burn out in caponiers. Where are the wire fences and minefields around the perimeter of the city.
    2. parkello
      parkello 15 December 2016 06: 42
      +17
      yes did not miss anything. reported on time where it should be, it was the Syrian officers who ran immediately, dragging ordinary soldiers along with them. What does Russian intelligence have to do with it? ALL OF THEM TIME REPORTED ... here who needs to write out a magical pendell is the top officers who commanded in Palmyra the garrisons entrusted to them. and the MTR units did their job perfectly. if it weren’t for them then the bearded ones would not only have taken Palmyra. but also all key positions and the airbase as well.
      1. IGOR GORDEEV
        IGOR GORDEEV 15 December 2016 07: 57
        +1
        Quote: parkello
        Yes, they didn’t miss anything .... and the MTR detachments did their job perfectly. if it weren’t for them then the bearded ones would not only have taken Palmyra. but also all key positions and the airbase as well.

        Where does such information come from?
        1. Aroma77
          Aroma77 15 December 2016 10: 53
          +1
          Here is a link to a blog where an alleged eyewitness account of the events of the capture of Palmyra is allegedly given. True or false, only those who were or those who are in the subject know. ) Read will not be superfluous.
          http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3127572.html
      2. max702
        max702 15 December 2016 08: 57
        +2
        Quote: parkello
        yes did not miss anything. reported on time

        But let me go to Palmyra 5000 people with equipment, ammunition and so on .. This is not a matter of one day, so all this preparation was overslept .. What kind of logistic volumes were involved and why was this logistics not destroyed? Is the 5000 enemy grouping SO invisible? Or is it too small a target for our intelligence, aviation, and others? Option two is a "cunning plan". or simply overslept .. The second is more correct .. Consequently, they blinked and did not report when and where to ..
        1. DimerVladimer
          DimerVladimer 15 December 2016 11: 02
          +2
          Quote: max702
          But let me go to Palmyra 5000 people with equipment, ammunition and so on .. This is not a matter of one day, so all this preparation was overslept .. What kind of logistic volumes were involved and why was this logistics not destroyed? Is the 5000 enemy grouping SO invisible? Or is it too small a target for our intelligence, aviation, and others? Option two is a "cunning plan". or simply overslept .. The second is more correct .. Consequently, they blinked and did not report when and where to ..


          And who thought that 5000 already?
          Or maybe there are no more than 1500? who counts?

          I think that 4000-5000 is a convenient figure to justify.
        2. Razvedka_Boem
          Razvedka_Boem 15 December 2016 12: 34
          0
          But let 5000 people moved to Palmyra with equipment, ammunition, etc. .. This is not a matter of one day, so they slept through all this training ..

          There was no crowd of several thousand people. There were small, scattered groups that united in a shock fist, immediately before the events. Also, I believe, they were accompanied by Western experts who coordinated actions and helped intelligence. Movements were at night, camouflaged during the day, perhaps many passed under the guise of civilians, now there is still a mess there.
          What exactly happened there I think will soon find out. But as already mentioned, the terrorists were EXPRESSED by the coalition led by the Shtatovs.
    3. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 15 December 2016 07: 29
      +2
      Same lech
      but our staffers and intelligence must enter the pendal ... they blinked.

      Lyokha Great! hi
      I don’t think they missed!
      And about the pendal ...... it will be necessary to give, if the situation does not take advantage of the weakening of the bearded groups in Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor, due to the transfer under Palmyra.
      1. IGOR GORDEEV
        IGOR GORDEEV 15 December 2016 08: 02
        +1
        Quote: Ruswolf
        Same lech
        but our staffers and intelligence must enter the pendal ... they blinked.

        I don’t think they missed!
        And about the pendal ...... it will be necessary to give, if the situation does not take advantage of the weakening of the bearded groups in Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor, due to the transfer under Palmyra.

        It would be ideal to take advantage of the situation of weakening bearded groups in Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor, but in what way?
        1. andj61
          andj61 15 December 2016 08: 27
          +6
          Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
          It would be ideal to take advantage of the situation of weakening bearded groups in Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor, but in what way?

          Yes, they clearly provoke us here: Assad-de is clearly not coping - Russia’s participation is required.
          And the American general is hinting at this. They need us to get stuck in Syria, to supplement our participation not only with aviation-intelligence-sappers-advisers, but also with the ground forces.
          And even now in the West they often comment on everything in such a way as if it was not Assad who was fighting there, but exclusively Russia.
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 15 December 2016 08: 04
        +3
        Hello Ruswolf! smile

        Let's hope that the situation with PALMIRA is just the tactical success of the barmalei and will not have an impact on the strategic advantage in the war.
    4. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 15 December 2016 09: 05
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Smart opponent ...

      Alas, Alexey ... but no. Officially, a partner who is fucked up by his own cunningness. While. The fact of the matter is that ours played in trust to the end, giving the ghouls a chance (as it turned out, in vain) for cooperation. And not that they were not considered an enemy, but even an enemy ... well, at least they were not called. It was this that the Pindos took advantage of in full. Well, "without remembering evil, it is impossible to be alive ... having erased the traces of recent spitting from your face, say to yourself," Is this nothing, is it an enemy? Why are you ... "(Yu. Kotelnikova) But now my conscience is clear and hands are untied.
    5. tommy717
      tommy717 15 December 2016 09: 24
      0
      Read the notes of the Syrian soldier about how it was near Palmyra (Syria ISIS latest news Pandora’s box December 14, 2016 or Colonel Kassad Liv magazine) is very interesting ...
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 15 December 2016 11: 36
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      A clever adversary ... skillfully these generals hogged us and Assad ...

      Think smart? They pulled 5 warriors from Raqqa and Edb-Zor, and sent them to Palmyra, where they will grind them. But at the same time weakened the strategically important areas of Raqqa-Ed-Zor. Do you think this is smart, given the fact that after Idlib, Rakka is next in line?
      1. Social Democrat
        Social Democrat 15 December 2016 12: 37
        0
        5000 is a convenient figure. First of all, 5000 people are a convenient target for VKS. Secondly, the width of the front around Palmyra is 25-35 km. To break through such a defense in Syria, 1500 people are enough in the desert in mobile groups that will deliver sudden strikes.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 15 December 2016 12: 42
          +2
          Quote: Social Democrat
          Firstly, 5000 people are a convenient target for the videoconferencing.

          But nothing that spirits hide behind the ancient buildings of Palmyra? Our VKS will not work in the city, but they won’t enter a pure field, knowing that they will immediately fall under the blows of our VKS.
          Quote: Social Democrat
          To break through such a defense in Syria, in the desert, 1500 people are enough in mobile groups that will deliver sudden strikes

          If you are about the breakthrough by the spirits of our front line, then you need to understand that in the open, these 1500 jeep fighters will quickly grind our VKS. And if you are about our group, then these 1500 combat-ready fighters still need to be recruited. And I think that without the help of our marines it will not do here.
          1. Social Democrat
            Social Democrat 15 December 2016 12: 46
            0
            But nothing that spirits hide behind the ancient buildings of Palmyra? Our VKS will not work in the city, but they won’t enter a pure field, knowing that they will immediately fall under the blows of our VKS.


            And before you take Palmyra, 5000 militants were also behind the ruins?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 15 December 2016 12: 51
              +2
              Quote: Social Democrat
              And before you take Palmyra, 5000 militants were also behind the ruins?

              So our VKS and grind half of those who attacked until they entered the city limits. At the same time honor and praise to the pilots, it was they who did the main work.
              And the fact that the ground units draped, so, there were mostly militias. In fact, those of the spirits that are now in Palmyra have already worked out material, since they can’t see any support, and BC has such an unpleasant feature to end. And here, if they do not begin to play with corridors and cease-fires, they will grind another one in a week.
              1. Social Democrat
                Social Democrat 15 December 2016 13: 30
                0
                In the official data of the Defense Ministry, it was said that 300 militants were destroyed by VKS strikes. And if you look at your data, then this is 2500 fighters in 1-2 days. I never heard that in 1-2 days 2500 fighters could be destroyed.
  3. IGOR GORDEEV
    IGOR GORDEEV 15 December 2016 06: 28
    +5
    I would not be surprised if after taking Palmyra by a Daishevsky rabble, some in the Pentagon, the CIA, etc., drank champagne at the offices.
  4. siberalt
    siberalt 15 December 2016 06: 34
    +4
    How stupid is this Dunsend! Whom did he intend to fight to teach?
  5. elenagromova
    elenagromova 15 December 2016 06: 38
    +3
    There will be a counterattack, such that you and your dolls will not find it!
    1. Siberian 142
      Siberian 142 15 December 2016 07: 29
      +1
      It will be of course !!!!! Just how much effort and money will be needed again ??? Have not you thought? But in vain! And how many lives will we leave again in Palmyra? Again, the Syrians will need such Heroes as Alexander Prokhorenko, Oleg Pashkov, and our other soldiers who died?
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 15 December 2016 08: 57
        0
        Exactly, we’ll beat off a month again, so that in two days we will succeed in everything, as it was already under Tabka in the summer, and now Palmyra has
  6. VSZMK
    VSZMK 15 December 2016 06: 38
    +2
    They could not consolidate the acquisition, distracted from the ball in the game

    Is he a general or a football columnist? (They call football soccer, call-killing!).
  7. viktor.
    viktor. 15 December 2016 06: 45
    +2
    тas you already did everything, you gave the order not to bomb from the air. the author still hopes for exceptional? themselves missed Palmyra fool and the airspace over Syria had to be blocked for a long time and hopes for itself
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 December 2016 06: 57
      +1
      Quote: anna1980
      airspace over Syria had to be blocked for a long time

      and what, someone flies?
      1. Siberian 142
        Siberian 142 15 December 2016 07: 19
        +2
        And who broke the units of the Syrians in deir-ez dawn ????? Or refresh your memory!
        she flies in her area of ​​responsibility, which ours agreed with, and flies so that they are empty.!
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 15 December 2016 08: 59
          +1
          Israel periodically bombing also
          1. Siberian 142
            Siberian 142 15 December 2016 16: 53
            0
            Jews beat from their territory, not flying into Syrian airspace, (stab in the back - from the underside) Well, actually this is characteristic of Jews
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 15 December 2016 12: 46
          +4
          Quote: Sibiryak 142
          And who broke the units of the Syrians in deir-ez dawn ????? Or refresh your memory!

          Regular units will reach Ez-Zor, all flights of incomprehensible states will immediately cease. Now it is important to maintain and strengthen Aleppo, and tighten reserves, if any. Well and give rest to the fighters, so that later, regrouping and indicating further actions, move to Idlib.
          1. Siberian 142
            Siberian 142 15 December 2016 19: 26
            +1
            [/ quote] Now it is important to maintain and strengthen Aleppo, [quote]

            Yes, that’s the whole point!
  8. rotor
    rotor 15 December 2016 06: 54
    +2
    how did it happen that up to 5 thousand fighters actually secretly moved about 200-odd kilometers with a large number of units of military equipment, including tanks.


    Yes, indeed, this question also torments me. I thought that there a cloud of drones plowed the sky in the vicinity of Palmyra, looking for enemies, but it turns out that this is not so. Where were all our drones, in Aleppo, or something.
  9. alex-cn
    alex-cn 15 December 2016 07: 01
    +3
    The Ardennes operation and the winter offensive of 45 Soviet troops in favor of the Allies ....
    They got stuck in Mosul - and they want the Syrians and our URGENT shake the barmaley in Palmyra
    It does not seem that this desire to pull out your own w ... with the wrong hands?
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 15 December 2016 07: 13
      +3
      alex-cn They got stuck in Mosul - and they want the Syrians and our URGENT shake the barmaley in Palmyra
      It does not seem that this desire to pull out your own w ... with the wrong hands?

      Thought is eligible for recognition!
      Do not forget to remember that not so long ago, Kerry said that the Russians outplayed him. Only Russians are in Syria on legal grounds. The USA does not have such a right.
      If we take into account the brake in Masul and the statement on the seizure of weapons and the right to defend ourselves, it turns out that the United States decided to play another speckled card. With the hope of striking, I have no doubt that ISIS will begin to evacuate en masse.
      That is, an attempt to wash the face after the last spitting on the face.
      1. max702
        max702 15 December 2016 09: 01
        +1
        Quote: Ruswolf
        Only Russians are in Syria on legal grounds. The USA does not have such a right.

        USA do not care about it ... For them there are no laws .. All this is complete bullshit .. Only the right of the strong, and that's all ...
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 15 December 2016 07: 09
    +5
    the general has clearly messed up the golf course, but he will not rust behind us ...
  11. Vadim12
    Vadim12 15 December 2016 07: 13
    +5
    Undisguised joy is straightforward. The bearded man is obviously ill.
  12. taseka
    taseka 15 December 2016 07: 14
    +10
    It’s just that the United States is fighting ISIS with Russia
  13. ZKVR
    ZKVR 15 December 2016 07: 18
    +1
    But I still think that Palmyra is an agreement between us and the United States. Our goal was that they allegedly surrendered Palmyra, thereby luring the igil from the cities to an open area, where they would solve everyone. And the United States agreed to something. We will see. This is war guys, there are tactics and strategy and military trick and all that. Dirty but interesting.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 December 2016 09: 00
      +1
      yeah, but why did you leave so many working equipment and weapons in Palmyra?
  14. KOH
    KOH 15 December 2016 07: 18
    +5
    Here on Palmyra came across ...

    The Russian Ministry of Defense said that Palmyra is now not a priority in the Syrian operation. The priority is full control over Aleppo.

    T-4 airbase is located 90 kilometers from Palmyra. Reports that it was captured by IS fighters are not true. According to sources in the command of the Syrian army, the military airfield continues to carry out its tasks.

    ISIS terrorists executed soldiers and civilians of Palmyra, who were captured during the assault on the city.

    Al-Mirsad portal has distributed reports of violence. Terrorists cracked down on eight Syrian army soldiers and militias. In addition, they executed a family of supporters of the government and four other inhabitants of the ancient city, among them a woman and two children.
    Palmyra Syria today
    1. max702
      max702 15 December 2016 09: 04
      +1
      Quote: CON
      Terrorists cracked down on eight Syrian army soldiers and militias.

      But this is not cynical at our fingertips .. You see, it will reach the Syrians that they must fight to the end, and not run at the very first shots ..
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 15 December 2016 09: 57
        +2
        During the five years of the war, thousands of soldiers and militias were executed in a variety of ways, in FulHD. They threw them under the tanks, burned, shot, cut, played hide and seek with the kids who were given military weapons, etc.

        This did not give combat stability to units sad .

        True, with the Tab Queris can turn out. Black cut the M20 by night. Moreover, they went to occupy the village of Sharif west to control M20 reliably.

        On the one hand, they literally buried in 2-3km from Т4. In the north, they threw them from the skyscrapers.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 15 December 2016 10: 05
          +1
          And the abandoned M46 was already dragged by the way, using the base.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 15 December 2016 10: 12
          +1
          With T4 of course). I mean, they have now cut the road (M20) - if they take Sharif, they can control the road from him.

          However, in such situations, when there is nowhere to run, the Syrian army and NSO usually begin to fight stubbornly.
    2. fif21
      fif21 16 December 2016 09: 33
      0
      Quote: CON
      In addition, they executed a family of supporters of the government and four other inhabitants of the ancient city, among them a woman and two children.
      And what will it be for them? Buses and corridors. am
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 December 2016 07: 23
    +2
    From the cynical statement of Townsend:
    They couldn’t consolidate the acquisitions, distracted from the ball in the game,


    For this merikatos general, war is a game. He is not at the forefront, and not even in Syria. This can be argued about everything.
  16. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 15 December 2016 07: 38
    +2
    If they (Syria and Russia) do not do this, we will do what we need to do to protect ourselves.

    Will they escape from Syria to protect themselves? Or can they do something else?
  17. Taygerus
    Taygerus 15 December 2016 07: 47
    +1
    "They failed to consolidate acquisitions, got distracted from the ball in the game, and the enemy took advantage of the situation."

    let these brave warriors tell at least about their one significant victory whatsoever, such enemy allies are not necessary
  18. K-50
    K-50 15 December 2016 07: 51
    +2
    Russia and Syria "in the near future should take a counterattack on the Ishilovites in Palmyra."

    Well, somehow, without the gossip warriors, we’ll figure it out. lol
    We are following this.

    Followers do not trace. fool laughing
    If they (Syria and Russia) do not do this, we will do what we need to do to protect ourselves.

    Don't you hide behind the ocean? belay
    Mattress covers were pulled apart, even hang a clothespin on your nose. negative crying laughing
  19. Baloo
    Baloo 15 December 2016 07: 56
    0
    General Townsend (USA): "Russia and Syria must counterattack the Ishilians in Palmyra"

    What smart, already gives us orders.
  20. Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 15 December 2016 07: 58
    +1
    Quote: The same Lech
    A clever adversary ... skillfully these generals hogged us and Assad ...
    Blaming them for this is pointless this is their job ... but our staff and intelligence need to enter a pendal ... blinked.
  21. viktor.
    viktor. 15 December 2016 08: 00
    0
    Quote: taseka
    It’s just that the United States is fighting ISIS with Russia

    where the United States and Russia are fighting, it has long been understood that they are fighting among themselves, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan.
  22. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 15 December 2016 08: 01
    +3
    General Townsend (USA): "Russia and Syria must counterattack the Ishilians in Palmyra"
    Well, firstly: neither Russia nor Syria owes them anything (p-s). Not that nothing at all. Let's just say: nothing good.
    Secondly: to decide whom and when to attack is the prerogative of our, and only our GS.
    Third: why attack Palmyra if the civilian population has been evacuated from there (there is no one to save)? How long will these Palmyra survivors hold out there in the absence of a "forage base" and cut off supply routes?
    And fourthly: if this Palmyra was before the Syrians ... a star (no heroic defense was observed), if all these Unesco / Hrenesco didn’t raise an ecumenical howl about the loss of world cultural heritage (only gloating and streams of dirt addressed to us from all sides), then what is it that we need most of all?
    PS The Townsend toad presses for the fact that our military did not lead to a Loch’s divorce from this Palmyra, did not regroup units near Aleppo.
  23. prosmil
    prosmil 15 December 2016 08: 01
    +1
    I think that everything was known to our people and the Syrians, because they claim that they removed the local population, albeit by 80%, but again everything is limited in resources, or maybe some tricky plan, they lure the barmalei into a boiler for the new year and cook over low heat .
  24. jovanni
    jovanni 15 December 2016 08: 07
    0
    From the cynical statement of Townsend:
    They could not consolidate the acquisition, distracted from the ball in the game, and the enemy took advantage of this situation.

    The American general is right. What is, that is, sometimes dizziness covers us from success ...
  25. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 15 December 2016 08: 13
    +2
    In the 41st, Americans and the British (growing up, investing huge sums of money in German industry) and used Hitler to attack the USSR (creating a large rear base in Europe to fuel Hitler’s deadly machine), now the USA and England use ISIS, paid and created by them, for attacks on Syria, and after the collapse of Syria (by analogy with Iraq and Libya) subsequently (by creating a rear base in northern Africa) send paid gangs to the southern borders of Russia (as the Americans say - nothing personal but business).
    1. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer 15 December 2016 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: Andryukha G
      In the 41st, Americans and the British (they grew up investing huge amounts of money in German industry) and used Hitler to attack the USSR (creating a large rear base in Europe to fuel Hitler’s deadly car)


      You read the story - and do not write nonsense.
      Hitler came to power on promises of boosting the economy and military orders - the top Nazis worked very hard on the industrialists to finance the NSNRP, which brought them to power.
      And after Hitler came to power, he really lived up to the expectations of industrialists - the German economy was booming due to government orders.
  26. Barbulator
    Barbulator 15 December 2016 08: 25
    +1
    [quot] "Russia and Syria" in the near future should take a counterattack on the ISIS in Palmyra "[/ quote]
    Well, how smart are American generals! After all, everyone knows where, what, how and by what forces to act. But for some reason, they themselves fail. As they say, he rammed the rams, it was necessary to give advice to Obama, maybe it would have happened ...
  27. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 December 2016 08: 31
    0
    Quote: Volka
    the general has clearly messed up the golf course, but he will not rust behind us ...

    No. they put their boundless actions on BV on the level of their favorite game - baseball. Therefore, it is clear from what is happening in the world that Americans are simply "playing" games, but do not think about the consequences.
  28. Awaz
    Awaz 15 December 2016 08: 32
    +3
    from the point of view of the strategic situation prevailing now in Syria, there is no point in attacking Palmyra. The stupid American general just wet dreams of driving the Syrian army into the cauldron they cook there. If you attack, then you need to cut off the entire ledge adjacent to Homs and Hama and hanging over Palmyra. This can really catch two birds with one stone. Firstly, the boiler in Homs will practically lose support from the igil, and secondly, Palmyra will return to Syria. It’s stupid to climb into Palmyra through the small intestine, fraught with a repetition of the escape or a boiler, which Washington is very dreaming of. They do not succeed.
    This is my opinion of a couch analyst, but it seems to me quite reasonable. Although, I would be a bit different in the place of the authorities. I would destroy all the enemy enclaves around Damascus and put out the cauldron in Homs, and also expand the gut to Aleppo, to such an extent that there would be no desire among the Barmels to sit on it. And Palmyra, then she will fall. not immediately but fall
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 15 December 2016 09: 45
      +2
      Hi!! In principle, this is exactly what the further actions will probably happen. The situation itself dictates this. The military is also talking about this.
      1. Awaz
        Awaz 15 December 2016 10: 45
        0
        God forbid that the military would not climb into a stupid hysterical attempt to repulse a generally meaningless village, spending considerable resources on this, which would be better spent on cleaning up controlled territories. The liquidation of the boiler in Homs and near Damascus is much more significant and important events.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 15 December 2016 16: 12
      +1
      "then it is necessary to cut off the entire ledge adjacent to Homs and Hama and hanging over Palmyra" ///

      And why do you think that ISIS fighters inspired by success will not continue
      offensive to the west, do not take the Homs and cut Syria in half?
      What are the forces of the Syrians here? 200 Tigers died, 200 fled ... who else?
      Everyone who can shoot in Aleppo.
      1. Siberian 142
        Siberian 142 15 December 2016 20: 50
        0
        [/ quote] And why do you think [quote]

        We, unlike you, DO !!!!!!
  29. PValery53
    PValery53 15 December 2016 08: 46
    +1
    General Townsend (USA)! You, instead of specifying what Russia should do, listen and do what Russia tells you. Got it now?!.
  30. nnm
    nnm 15 December 2016 09: 06
    0
    Russia and Syria must counterattack the Ishilians in Palmyra

    ... what would you start yelling about a humanitarian disaster again?
    Here, take your soldiers and counterattack!
  31. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 15 December 2016 09: 06
    0
    By the way, there are still questions, how did it happen that up to 5, thousands of militants actually secretly moved about 200 with more than kilometers with a large number of units of military equipment, including tanks.


    Such a question must be asked first of all to yourself.
  32. vmo
    vmo 15 December 2016 09: 10
    0
    Everyone imagines himself to be a strategist, but it’s not fucking impossible for the minke whales to fight, to crap, please yes, I almost forgot. the buckles on the undersides are great, "warriors".
  33. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 15 December 2016 09: 39
    0
    The ears of the Americans are also visible under Palmyra ... well, nothing infa went that the MTR of the RF Ministry of Defense is already under Palmyra
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 15 December 2016 10: 07
      +1
      On T4. While the main battles for him + Karatyan must be strengthened.
  34. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 15 December 2016 10: 20
    +2
    questions remain, how did it happen that up to 5 thousand fighters actually secretly moved about 200-odd kilometers with a large number of units of military equipment, including tanks


    And actually what’s amazing about it
    Between Deir ez-Zor and Palmyra - 185 km. Forward detachments on "carts" - 3 hours of travel. Before that, there was a week of fog, UAVs not equipped with IFK cameras were useless. To concentrate sufficient forces during this time - and to transfer them 200 km - is not such a difficult task.
    And then, who rated the forces at 4000 militants? Maybe 1500 or less.
    Shot down from the position of the Syrians - they drew 4000 breviks to justify the instability of their defense.
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 15 December 2016 10: 56
      0
      besides, there were a certain number of militants at the positions there, which could be replenished quietly for quite a while, while all the forces of the Syrian Army were diverted to Aleppo. But failure doesn’t cancel it all the same.
  35. akims
    akims 15 December 2016 10: 24
    +1
    It is called: listen carefully and do the opposite!
  36. MaksoMelan
    MaksoMelan 15 December 2016 10: 36
    0
    I'm seating at home. The Internet is normal and glitches on the site. Once again because of the white haze I can’t send comments. Spread as a picture.
  37. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 15 December 2016 11: 15
    0
    General borzonul! Sergey Kuzhugetovich already jumped and ran to perform ...
  38. biserino
    biserino 15 December 2016 11: 36
    +1
    Quote: alex-cn

    They got stuck in Mosul - and they want the Syrians and our URGENT shake the barmaley in Palmyra


    A give the barmaley in Mosul air defense to spoil the Americans! laughing That's the thing about war on BV ...
  39. vladimirw
    vladimirw 15 December 2016 12: 13
    0
    By the way, there are still questions, how did it happen that up to 5, thousands of militants actually secretly moved about 200 with more than kilometers with a large number of units of military equipment, including tanks.
    And where was our air reconnaissance?
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 15 December 2016 12: 38
      0
      Before writing, read the previous comments. They ask the same thing ..
  40. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 15 December 2016 13: 14
    0
    in the deepest rear "follow this" - do not roll bags on the front end .. social network general
  41. Stegosaurus Brontosaurus
    Stegosaurus Brontosaurus 15 December 2016 13: 33
    0
    General Townsend: "Russia and Syria must counterattack ISIS in Palmyra"

    Sir, waiting for your order, sir!
  42. den-protector
    den-protector 15 December 2016 13: 47
    0
    The Americans, under no circumstances, have the right to be in Syria, neither on the ground nor in the air (as an option, they are dug underground). Nobody invited them there. It is unclear why our people tacitly agree with the presence of all kinds of "friends of Syria" there. And about the advice, so we are already running, stumbling, hair back
  43. Lelek
    Lelek 15 December 2016 14: 42
    0
    (American General Stephen Townsend, commander of the so-called coalition forces, a man who gave a direct order to suspend the operation against ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation) in Raqqa and Deir ez-Zor until spring, said that Russia and Syria “in in the near future should take a counterattack on the Ishilovites in Palmyra.

    "Oh, what a military man was - well, a real colonel." They ordered, and we saluted and ran - to execute.
    No, do not eradicate in the Yankees the utopian fantasy of their exclusivity.
    These Americans SHOULD get out of Syria, where they were not invited, and SHOULD not prevent Assad and the Russian VKS from doing their job. For one it would not hurt yes they should learn from Russian how to do this with a quality mark.
  44. Glory1974
    Glory1974 15 December 2016 19: 14
    0
    Do not blame everything on the Westerners in terms of helping the "barmaley". The operation to capture the palmyra could well have been planned and carried out by the spirits themselves. In Chechnya, in January 2001, a crowd of militants also marched three or three in a column and immediately captured Argun. On our side, there were about a hundred dead. With complete air superiority, etc. And what about Operation Wolf Hunt? When the spirits were lured out of the surrounded Grozny, and there were so many of them that no barriers and ambushes could hold back. This is why the art of war is called art, that everything does not always go as you planned.
  45. mik0588
    mik0588 16 December 2016 05: 50
    0
    Fse disappeared, the client leaves, the plaster is removed ... or .yes to throw them all nuclear weapons .. Well, that's where in the last year there are so many minors ... in. Oh, a good resource before
  46. fif21
    fif21 16 December 2016 09: 23
    0
    He did not fight against the Russians, that’s the show-off rod. Yes, and against the Arabs, as it is softer to say recourse In - will point out wassat Ochkanaft laughing
  47. 1536
    1536 17 December 2016 12: 03
    0
    What the hell? Congress forbade the Pentagon to even come close to the Russian Armed Forces and not cooperate with them. What a mess in America? Generals do not fulfill the will of lawmakers and the US government.