Red Raid

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Chervonny Cossack units and formations owe their origin to the government of the Ukrainian People’s Republic of Soviets (the capital, Kharkiv), which began to form its army in opposition to the troops of the UPR (the Ukrainian People’s Republic, the capital, Kiev). In the future, the Red Cossack units became one of the most effective parts of the Red Army, having proved itself well in the Civil War. One of the most famous operations of the Red Cossacks was the raid of the 8 th of the Red Cossack Division to the rear of the Polish forces in July 1920.

In July, the 1920 8-th Chervonnaya Cossack Division was part of the 14-th army and operated in the cities of Khmilnyk, Litin and Letichev.



The situation at the front of the armies operating against the Poles by this time was such that while the left flank of the enemy was pushed aside by the 1 Cavalry Army and the troops of the Western Front, the right wing stood out sharply forward and held on to the fortified positions along the river. R. Ikva and Bug.

Attempts by the units of the 14 Army to bring down the enemy from these positions did not lead to the desired results, and the army command was faced with the question of how to make the Poles withdraw.

The group of Polish troops operating in the area was based on the Volochysk-Proskurov-Komarovna railway, with army quartermaster in the city of Black Island and army headquarters in the city of Proskurov.

The Red Command decided, with the help of its strategic cavalry, to influence these objects, destroy the rear of the enemy army, instill panic into it and force them to retreat from their positions.

The command of the 8 Army set the following task to the head of the 14 th Chervonnaya Cossack Division: to penetrate the enemy’s rear, attack Proskurov and Black Island, defeat the army headquarters and quartermaster warehouses and destroy military installations.
Moreover, the front breakthrough was assigned to the infantry, which by a night attack was supposed to make a dent in the Polish front, and already in the breakthrough it was necessary to introduce cavalry.

8-I Chervonnaya Cossack Division was an exemplary cavalry unit of the Red Army - all its parts were always in perfect order, not only hundreds, but regiments and brigades could at any time make all statutory rebuildings. Internal cohesion and discipline were put at the proper height. It was considered a disgrace to leave the march, even in non-combat conditions, and to see a pure Cossack who left the village without permission and drove into the village to drink water - was unthinkable. On horse care, hundreds and shelves competed with each other.

Red Raid

Chervone Cossacks

Having just been deployed to the Polish front and not knowing the enemy, the Cossacks conducted reconnaissance by force. After attacking the Poles and provoking them to go on a counterattack (for wire obstacles), the Red Cossacks lured 1,500 enemy fighters, who, fascinated by the pursuit, moved away from their positions 5 versts, and seized. Shpichintsy. By coordinated actions of the 2 and 3 brigades of the Red Division, the broken Poles were completely destroyed. Moreover, a revolt broke out among the Poles in this sector of the front, as a result of which their command was forced to regroup, taking advantage of which, the 8-I Chervonnaya division switched to 60 versts south to the town of Litin at night, where the red infantry prepared to break through the front between the railway stations Derazhnya and Komarovka.

When the infantry expanded the mouth of the breakout by six versts, cavalrymen entered it. The movement plan was developed in detail, all the wagons left in the rear — the minimum number of carriages went into the raid, according to 2 - 3 per hundred. Patrons took on 250 pieces per fighter, as well as a limited number of shells. The wagon train immediately followed its parts. Thus, the main quality of cavalry - mobility - was preserved.

The avant-garde and rear-guard divisions were organized in accordance with the field regulations, and hundreds were sent from the main forces left and right to 3 - 4 versts, following the head of the marching column of the main forces. Thus, the width of the front of the division was equal to the length of the marching column (the column length reached 10 versts).

Already during the first two hours of the movement, cavalrymen passed 20 versts, overcoming the tactical defense zone of the Poles. Moving at a speed of 5 - 6 versts per hour in the direction of Sharovka, the division on the first day of the raid was still 25 versts and in 12 hours of the day settled down to rest. It was possible to capture two enemy adversaries, who were going to the front with uniforms and canned goods. On this day, the enemy lost a 150 man, 150 carts, around 300 horses, a lot of uniforms and food.

All the wagons and part of the horses were given to the peasants of the village, where the cavalrymen rested, the necessary amount of property was taken into packs. The villagers were warned that before the Cossacks left the village no one should leave it.

Having stood in the village of 14 for hours, fed the horses and letting them rest, the next day at 2 hours the division performed for a further march.

The second transition to 50 versts was done with an average speed of 6 versts per hour and by 12 hours the division again stopped to rest in a large village. During the movement, a vehicle with uniforms and food from 80 vehicles was seized, with which it was received the same way as with the booty of the previous day. Caught in the hands of cavalry and 120 prisoners.

Since the connection was in the rear of the Poles already 34 hours, it was necessary to "cover the tracks." The division of one of the regiments of the 2 Brigade was tasked with carrying out a raid on the Yarmolintsy railway station, 40 versts south of the division's goal, moving west, and then turning north to join the main forces. During this operation, the division captured 2 quartermaster echelon for 40 cars each and one echelon with artillery assets and 8 with light guns, and also captured two generals, several officers and up to three hundred soldiers. The Cossacks of the division have expanded their arsenal with magnificent new browings with a large supply of ammunition.
The station was destroyed and a bridge was blown in the direction of Proskurov.

The division stopped near the seats. Felshtin, deciding the next day to attack the city of Proskurov with one brigade, and surround the other two and take the place of Black Island.

Once again, it was possible to take the enemy's transport to more than 200 with a supply of various property and provisions and to destroy the battalion of a cover of up to 400 people.

During the first two days of the raid, the Red Cossacks captured: 300 horses, 480 carts, 120 cars, 8 guns (were put out of action), and also destroyed 950 enemy soldiers. Division losses - 2 dead and 3 injured horses and 2 stray sentinel fighters.

After 48 hours from the moment of the breakthrough to the rear of the enemy, the division, having passed more than 100 miles, concentrated to attack Proskurov and Black Island - the raid target.

Since the army headquarters was in Proskurov, it was guarded by several infantry battalions numbering up to 1,2 thousand people. The same forces were in the Black Island.

At night the brigades went ahead. At about five o'clock the 2 brigade occupied the village of Pedosa, and soon after that, almost simultaneously two explosions were heard and the sounds of artillery firing from the positions of the battery of the 1 brigade. A station was lit and a detachment of Polish infantry was destroyed.

By 8-o'clock in the morning, Black Island was captured, and S. Petlyura, who was in it, managed to escape by car to Tarnopol, but his train fell into the hands of the Reds. 20 echelons were captured (about 500 cars loaded with various military assets), the Poles lost thousands of soldiers to 1 and a lot of horses.

The success of this part of the operation exceeded all expectations.

At the same time, the 3-I brigade approached the city of Proskurov and, taking advantage of the darkness, cordoned off the exits from it by machine-gun outposts. In the middle of the city was directed one division with machine guns, which galloped into it and, reaching the central square, opened machine-gun fire along the streets. Panic began in the city — carts, wagons, cars, and people rushed to the exits from the city, but met with machine-gun fire and began to hide in the courtyards.

As a result of the battles at Black Island and Proskurov, the enemy lost up to 2,5 thousands of people, 800 loaded wagons, 18 locomotives. The army headquarters was partially destroyed, partially fled. The same fate befell the Directorate of intendance.

Reds killed several horses and injured 10 - 12 Cossacks.
It now remains to complete the raid and return to his.

Part of the division, having passed 160 versts for four days, decided to rest.

But the enemy took down the 4 rifle divisions from the front - the Poles broke the link between the 2 and 3 brigades, cut off the 3 brigade from the rest and, moving through the forest, approached the 2 brigade.

The convoys had time to warn about the movement of significant enemy forces, but due to the fact that reconnaissance was conducted within a radius of 8 - 10 versts, the intelligence arrived simultaneously with the beginning of the exchange of fire between the Cossack patrol and the infantry of the enemy.

The main task was to unite all the brigades in one group.

The Poles attacked from several directions, covering the horseshoe occupied by cavalrymen of the village.

Maneuvering, the Cossacks, in turn, swept the enemy’s right flank, attacked him and caused him considerable damage - up to 300 people killed and 200 prisoners.

Brigade united, and the next day, near places. Kulchin was contacted by the Red forces pursuing the Poles.

What are the results of the raid Cossacks?

First, the enemy left the front 60 versts wide and 120 deep. Secondly, the 3 railway station, the 3 railway bridge, around 1000 loaded wagons, 500 loaded carts, 20 locomotives, up to 300 horses and thousands of soldiers were destroyed or taken out or destroyed. The enemy's 5 rifle divisions (with a total of 4 thousands of bayonets) retreated along the whole front and the Poles left an area of ​​twelve thousand square miles.

Having passed during the raid about 200 versts, the division lost the killed and wounded 50 to Cossacks and 100 horses.
The main objective of the raid - Proskurov and Black Island - were captured and defeated.

If you do not take into account the cases when many fighters were fascinated with the contents of warehouses and cars, as well as the excesses with the civilian population, this raid turned out to be one of the most successful operations of the 8 th Cossack Red Division. The division made it in full (six regiments and three equestrian 4-gun batteries).

The main consequence of the raid was a retreat on the whole front of a significant enemy grouping - and with heavy losses in personnel, materiel and military assets.

The Raid of the Cossacks on Proskurov and Black Island is one of the most successful operations of the strategic cavalry during the Russian Civil War.
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  1. +3
    21 December 2016 07: 53
    The author, and commanded the raid Primakov Vitaly Markovich? Or did a division make a rustle without a rear commander?
    1. +2
      21 December 2016 14: 50
      Quote: V.ic
      The author, and commanded the raid Primakov Vitaly Markovich? Or did a division make a rustle without a rear commander?

      The same is very surprised that the author somehow circumvented the surname
      Head of the 8th Pure Red Cossack Division Vitaly Markovich Primakov

      Neither the commander - 14, Uborevich Jerome Petrovich
      1. +26
        21 December 2016 15: 15
        Good day! Do not punish much for Primakov)) He is undoubtedly one of the strongest cavalry commanders in the history of our cavalry. I stuck with the results and technology of the raid - I thought about the numbers, but forgot to mention people. Correct)
        1. avt
          +5
          21 December 2016 15: 19
          Quote: OAV09081974
          I was fixated on the results and technology of the raid - I thought about the numbers, but forgot to mention the personalities. We will correct)

          Well ... then amnesty. bully
        2. +3
          21 December 2016 15: 22
          Quote: OAV09081974
          Do not execute strongly for Primakov))

          AND!!!!!!!! am
          Quote: OAV09081974
          I was fixated on the results and technology of the raid - I thought about the numbers, but forgot to mention the personalities.

          !!!!!!!! winked
          Quote: OAV09081974
          We will correct)

          Look !!! Take a look laughing

          Thank you for your work and good article. good drinks
          1. +19
            21 December 2016 15: 48
            Thank you for your appreciation!
      2. +2
        21 December 2016 19: 42
        Quote: svp67
        Neither the commander - 14, Uborevich Jerome Petrovich

        Uborevich Lithuanian - a true Cossack laughing By the way, he was shot in the 37th! But Stalin has nothing to do with it. laughing .
        1. +2
          21 December 2016 19: 52
          Quote: RUSS
          By the way, he was shot in the 37th!

          You know, and Primakova is the same ...
        2. +1
          22 December 2016 15: 27
          And for what they shot, do not tell?))) According to the natural malice of Stalin I.V., yes?
          1. +1
            22 December 2016 18: 26
            Quote: avva2012
            And for what they shot, do not tell?))) According to the natural malice of Stalin I.V., yes?

            Possible.
            1. 0
              23 December 2016 02: 52
              Do not judge others by yourself.
              1. 0
                23 December 2016 19: 26
                Quote: avva2012
                Do not judge others by yourself.

                In no case laughing
          2. +1
            22 December 2016 20: 43
            And for what shot, do not tell?

            And why did they put a dozen Soviet aircraft designers? Why did they plant all directors of military factories? 200 people?
        3. 0
          23 December 2016 08: 49
          In fact, I was surprised by another - Wikipedia says that Uborevich is from Lithuanian peasants. Yes, he was born in the Coven province in the current Lithuanian territory. But where did you see a Lithuanian with that name? The vast majority of sources say that Uborevich is a Belarusian.
  2. +21
    21 December 2016 08: 04
    An interesting article, I really liked it. I read now at the same time about Primakov V.M. - a divisor at that time. Thanks to the previous commentator for the replica. Although in general an article about the operation and its results, the personalities are very important and leave more than a powerful imprint on the events. As they say - the enduring role of personality in history
  3. +4
    21 December 2016 08: 18
    Primakov was also worth mentioning about the commander, despite his further fate. In the period described, he acted brilliantly
  4. +2
    21 December 2016 08: 19
    The 8th Red Cossack Division was an exemplary cavalry formation of the Red Army - all its units were always in perfect order, not only hundreds, but regiments and brigades at any time could make all statutory reconstructions on horseback. Internal cohesion and discipline were put to the proper height.
    .. What a high self-discipline .. And all go without a boss ... Organized themselves, they themselves commanded .. judging by the article ..
  5. +23
    21 December 2016 08: 46
    An article about the raid, not Primakov. For me personally, this episode of the Civil War was unknown. And it is gratifying that this time the Russians did not kill the Russians, but the Poles. Plus
    1. avt
      +1
      21 December 2016 10: 41
      Quote: soldier
      Raid article

      A specific unit, so the lack of mention in the article of the command staff and the divisor in particular, really causes .... to say the least
      Quote: parusnik
      . What a high self-discipline .. And all go without a boss ... Organized themselves, commanded themselves .. judging by the article.
      perplexity and levels the work of the author. It does not pull on a full-fledged plus. request
      1. +15
        21 December 2016 10: 55
        Nothing levels. It all depends on the look at the question, in the end it is the author’s business. And my plus is quite full))
    2. +3
      21 December 2016 19: 43
      Quote: soldier
      And it is gratifying that this time the Russians did not kill the Russians, but the Poles.

      Sad that the war was purged
      1. +18
        21 December 2016 20: 01
        That's for sure. And not least because of the issue of organizing strategic cavalry. Civil war is mobile. P.N. Wrangel in 1919 still expressed interesting ideas about the formation of the cavalry army - but did not listen to him at that time in the All-Union Union of Liberal Democratic Forces. But in vain, and sorry. And from volunteering it was necessary to move to regularity faster again
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  7. +6
    21 December 2016 11: 16
    Raid of the Crown of Cossacks on Prosecutors

    Fighting classes, No. 5, May 1932, C. 65-73

    V. PRIMAKOV

    I. GENERAL DESIGN AND PREPARATION FOR THE RAID

    The war against the White Poles took on a serious character for Soviet Russia in 1920, when the Polish armies entered the Dnieper River and took control of Kiev.

    The main command of the Red Army had to immediately weaken the forces on the Southern and Eastern fronts and transfer a number of divisions to the Polish front, despite the fact that the remnants of the Kolchak army were not yet finished in the east, Ungern, Semenov, Annenkov and other Far Eastern atamans were still raging; in the south, Baron Wrangel locked himself in the Crimea and General Slashchev defended Perekop against our armies.

    Not only separate divisions, but the entire equestrian army of Budyonny was transferred to the Polish front in marching order from the Don and Kuban to the right bank of the Dnieper, as our railways were not able to raise and transfer such a horse mass.

    Crossing the Dnieper in Yekaterinoslav and waiting for the concentration of our infantry near Kiev, the cavalry army broke through the front of the White Poles near Lipovets and went to their rear to Zhitomir. This thunderous strike, which destroyed the Polish rear and within five days defeated the Polish army’s communications and command and control of the forces operating near Kiev, threw the White Poles from the Dnieper line immediately to the line of the Bug and Sluch rivers; only having gone one hundred and a half miles west of this river, the Polish command was able to put in order the retreating divisions and organize the defense.

    But since our pursuit was delayed by the slow delivery of ammunition, the White Poles who stopped on the Bug and Slucha got time not only to organize defense, restore communications and establish command and control, but also to carry out serious defensive work: trenches were dug behind the Bug and Sluch rivers, on the most strong wire fences were made in the threatened areas; strong reserves for maneuver and counterattack were concentrated in the rear behind the defense strip.

    The Poles delayed our advance. The cavalry army stopped near Novograd-Volynsk, the 45-I rifle division of Yakir - north of Lubar. South of them, in the region of Khmelnik, the front was occupied by the division of the Red Cossacks, which arrived from the Wrangel front, and further, south of the Dniester, the 47, 60 and 41 I divisions of the XIV Army were deployed.

    The 8th Cavalry Division of the Chervonny Cossacks was also included in the XIV Army, commanded by the "shock commander" Comrade Uborevich.

    In late June, military contact with the Poles was finally established, and small battles of local importance began on the entire front of the XIV army.

    The actions of the cavalry of the Red Cossacks, who had just arrived at the front, were reduced at first to combat reconnaissance and to familiarize themselves with the enemy, but already at dawn 29 in June, five battalions of Polish infantry withdrew from wire fences in the area of ​​Staraya Sinyava and tried to launch an attack on Khmilnik.

    These battalions were surrounded under the villages of Cheshki and Shpichintsy by four regiments of the Red Cossack Cossacks and were cut down, and more than three hundred prisoners and 10 machine guns were captured. This was our first serious acquaintance with the White Poles, a very successful acquaintance. It is very important to win the first battle on a new front with a new enemy - this raises the spirit of the troops and strengthens faith in one's own strength. And this battle won with a successful equestrian attack raised the spirit of the division and instilled confidence in all Cossacks in themselves and in their abilities.

    The prisoners captured in this battle confirmed the information previously collected by the reconnaissance unit of the division headquarters and reported to Starm that the Polish command had gathered a strong strike group, more than the infantry division, in the Starokonstantinov area to go on a counterattack to the flank and rear of the Budenny horse army.

    This information was of extreme importance for the front, since the position of the Horse Army, operating in the wooded swampy area of ​​Novograd-Volynsk, did not allow Budyonny to use the main force of Konarmia. The cavalry army fought in dismounting, the positions of the White Poles were greatly strengthened, and the entry into the flank and rear of the Conarmia of a strong strike group of the White Poles could affect the outcome of the operation. Moreover, the White Poles retreated from Kiev, albeit very battered, but still retaining manpower , and consequently the combat effectiveness of their divisions.

    On the same day in the evening, the commander Uborevich arrived at the division headquarters. He brought forward a directive of the front, according to which the red cossacks were supposed to defeat the strike group of the White Poles, and arrived personally to organize a breakthrough of the Polish front in the direction of Starokonstantinov - the place where the Polish strike group was concentrated.

    The directive given to the front ordered the Red Cossacks to break through the Polish front in the area of ​​Old Sinyavia and strike the rear of the Poles in the direction of the Starokonstantinov with the task of dispersing the strike group before it finally concentrates and goes on the offensive in the flank and rear of the Budyonny army.

    The breakthrough of the front was to be carried out by the 47th Infantry Division. To attack the rear of the Starokonstantinov, six equestrian regiments of the Red Cossacks were intended, which were to go through the infantry breakthrough of the Polish front. There were doubts about the ability of the 47 Infantry Division to break through the fortified front of the Poles, since there were fewer than 1000 bayonets in the division, moreover, the units were scattered on the 30 verst front. There was also a second doubt about the appropriateness of a strike against the Starokonstantinov, since such a blow would not result in a blow to the rear of the horseshoes, but in a head-on collision with the Starokonstantinov group.

    These doubts were reported to the commander by the commander of the Red Cossack Division, while simultaneously proposing to slightly change the direction of the strike group: from Bar to Proskurov and from there to the rear of the old Konstantin group.
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    1. +3
      21 December 2016 11: 28
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      1. +19
        21 December 2016 11: 31
        Valuable addition, thanks!
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  9. +8
    21 December 2016 12: 48
    White came - rob, red came - rob.
    1. +17
      21 December 2016 13: 05
      Where to go to the poor peasant)
    2. +5
      21 December 2016 20: 03
      "... The Whites came to rob, the Reds came, they began to rob the same ... Where should the poor peasant go? ..." (the film "Chapaev")
  10. +4
    21 December 2016 13: 10
    when Dovator’s group went into the raid, he demanded that his subordinates leave all their property, including carts and artillery, field kitchens, etc., only mining tools and mortars were left. These measures achieved the mobility and speed of marches, which are so necessary for survival in the face of constant threat from the air As a result, Dovator’s cavalry corps achieved much more noticeable results than Batskalevich’s cavalry corps
    1. avt
      +3
      21 December 2016 13: 39
      Quote: nivasander
      when Dovator’s group went into the raid, he demanded that his subordinates leave all their property, including carts and artillery, field kitchens, etc., only mining tools and mortars were left. These measures achieved the mobility and speed of marches, which are so necessary for survival in the face of constant threat from the air

      The movement speed in the raid is generally achieved by maintaining the average movement speed of the connection. You can jerk, by 10 thousand like 500 "and you are puffed up in the sludge for several days, so it will turn out not a hundred kilometers per hour, but 5, like a pedestrian. The most indicative raid is General Naumov, whom Stalin is from the captains of the NKVD border troops to General I determined the majors after he opened Hitler's headquarters in Ukraine. I believe Dovator did not take artillery solely in view of the terrain and the presence of obstacles along which the raid was planned. Then the baggage train and artillery would really hold down. Here Kovpak with the baggage train went to the raid, and his mass of infantry with artillery and nothing, until he dropped into the Carpathians and ran into the rangers.
  11. +6
    21 December 2016 18: 55
    If you do not take into account cases where many fighters were fond of the contents of warehouses and wagons, as well as excesses with civilians,

    They even carried carts with them to put "trophies"
    1. +4
      21 December 2016 20: 58
      Quote: Hupfri
      Even carts carried with them, to add "trophies"

      And what did it bother you so much? Trophies? So from your noble / proletarian / democratic / free-for-all position = it's good!
      Quote: Hupfri
      Even carts carried with them

      Was it in your pockets or bags? A wagon is actually a towed (by horsepower) wagon. Do you carry your "car"? My soul feels that you are negative I’m not talking! Your spelling is clear evidence of this! am
  12. +6
    21 December 2016 19: 38
    The Red Cossacks are traitors to the Cossacks, opportunists and apostates. After the Civil War, they were generally forgotten only when the great war smelled in the late 30s, the authorities remembered them again!
    1. +3
      21 December 2016 20: 29
      Dear colleague. "Chervontsy" are by no means Cossacks ... So, a loud revolutionary self-designation ... In these units there was no "smell" of real Cossacks ...

      "... On September 22, 1918, in accordance with the order of the All-Ukrainian Military Revolutionary Committee (Bolsheviks), the foundation of the Special Insurgent Division was laid, the 1st regiment of which was to be the Red Cossacks regiment, (foot). By that time, in the neutral zone there were one cavalry and one foot hundreds of the Chervonny Cossacks, as well as a number of other small insurgent formations.During the formation of the insurgents, it was often decided to transfer hundreds of footmen to the 1st Ukrainian Soviet Regiment named after I. Bohun. a hundred small cavalry formations joined, and on its basis the 1st Cavalry Regiment of the Chervonny Cossacks of the 1nd Ukrainian Soviet Division was organized.In the 2st and 1nd hundreds of this regiment, yesterday's partisans mainly served, in the 2rd - internationalists - defectors and former prisoners of war from the German and Austro-Hungarian armies, in the 3th - Kurds (also yesterday's prisoners of war from the Turkish army).

      Since mid-December 1918, the 1-th Horse Regiment of the Red Cossacks actively participated in battles with the UNR Army. During the spring of 1919, it was significantly replenished with local volunteers, as well as mobilized from the Moscow Military District and internationalists (mainly Hungarians). In the summer of 1919, the remainder of a number of cavalry units operating earlier on the Ukrainian front joined the regiment. On August 12 1919 the regiment was deployed to the Red Cossack brigade of a two-regiment structure, which in September became part of the newly formed cavalry division (from December 1919 - the 8 I Cavalry of the Red Cossacks).

      Until September 1, 1924, the regiments of the Red Cossacks were traditionally called cavalry, and then, according to the order of the Revolutionary Military Council of the USSR dated August 14, 1924, No. 1049/168, - cavalry ... "
      1. +1
        22 December 2016 18: 33
        Quote: moskowit
        Dear colleague. "Chervontsy" are by no means Cossacks ...

        The Red Cossacks (Ukrainian. Chervona kozatstvo is a combined arms unit (corps since 1920) of the armed forces of Soviet Ukraine during the Civil War. It was formed by the government of the Ukrainian People’s Republic of Soviets with a capital in Kharkov as opposed to the troops of the Ukrainian People’s Republic with a capital in Kiev - the so-called Free Cossacksfocused on confrontation with Moscow. One of the military formations in the Red Army, known under the collective name "Red Cossacks", i.e. in one way or another related Cossacks as an estate people, descendants of the Cossacks 17-18 centuries. (especially relevant for CossacksKrainy Malorosii).

        The creation of the Red Cossacks is essentially significant in the sense that it marks the process of formation of the new, regular Red Army, not only in Ukraine, but also in other areas of historical Russia, i.e. Former Russian Empire.
    2. +2
      21 December 2016 20: 46
      Quote: RUSS
      when the great war smelled at the end of the 30s, the authorities remembered them again!

      Dear, do you think December 5, 1936 is "at the end of the 30s"? Read at your leisure, m. enlightenment in the brain will come: http://kazak-center.ru/publ/novosti_kazak_inform/
      rossijskoe_kazachestvo / kak_stalin_sokhranil_rossi
      ju_i_cerkov / 153-1-0-775
      1. +3
        22 December 2016 08: 36
        V.ic, such people will not have enlightenment, their Cossacks are those who were on the side of the fascists with Krasnov
        1. +2
          22 December 2016 11: 12
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          such will not come to enlightenment

          ... yes, what else to take with "alternative thinkers" ?!
          1. 0
            22 December 2016 18: 31
            Quote: V.ic
            yes, what else to take from "alternative thinkers" ?!

            tongue
        2. 0
          22 December 2016 18: 36
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          V.ic, such people will not have enlightenment, their Cossacks are those who were on the side of the fascists with Krasnov

          Cossacks fighting the fascist invaders, these are undoubtedly heroes, real Cossacks! And the Cossacks who fought on the side of the Reds in the Civil are traitors!
        3. +1
          22 December 2016 18: 37
          Quote: Uncle Murzik
          their Cossacks are those who are on the side of the Nazis with Krasnov

          Krasnov, a traitor and collaborator, he got what he deserved.
  13. -1
    21 December 2016 21: 21
    yes, it’s a shame. Primakov’s name is not even mentioned. But Primakov-Chervona is the same inseparable combination. Like Budyonny-1 Horse.
  14. 0
    22 December 2016 16: 16
    The article is very interesting. The only thing that struck was the "red" ones. The general from the film "Chapaev" appears in my memory. As if it is he who writes or is similar to him. Best regards, but about enemies. Sorry, maybe the fantasy let down, but the word "Red Guard" would probably be more neutral. hi
  15. +2
    22 December 2016 20: 48
    Quote: V.ic
    Quote: Hupfri
    Even carts carried with them, to add "trophies"

    And what did it bother you so much? Trophies? So from your noble / proletarian / democratic / free-for-all position = it's good!
    Quote: Hupfri
    Even carts carried with them

    Was it in your pockets or bags? A wagon is actually a towed (by horsepower) wagon. Do you carry your "car"? My soul feels that you are negative I’m not talking! Your spelling is clear evidence of this! am

    My soul feels that you are negative

    Dusya, it’s not for you, the Nazi, to talk about this. You hate everyone, Poles, Romanians, Jews, whites .... you need to learn spelling in order to express your thoughts normally, and not the condo language of the newspaper
  16. +1
    31 December 2016 14: 33
    Cossacks fighting the fascist invaders, these are undoubtedly heroes, real Cossacks! And the Cossacks who fought on the side of the Reds in the Civil are traitors!

    How unambiguous! And let's characterize such a famous Cossack as Konstantin Iosifovich Nedorubov. Full St. George cavalier in WWI, commander of the red squadron in the Civil War, guard captain, squadron commander, Hero of the Soviet Union in World War II. So who is he, a Cossack or a traitor?