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Mikhail Gorbachev: I gave power to avoid bloodshed

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Mikhail Gorbachev: I gave power to avoid bloodshed



In December, the Soviet Union collapsed 1991. December 25 the first president of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev resigned as head of state.
On the eve of the 25 anniversary of this date, the former Soviet leader, in an interview with TASS, explained why he had not arrested the document on the termination of the existence of a single country that had signed the Belovezhskaya Pushcha, and said that he admits the possibility of creating a new Union State


- Who is responsible for the collapse of the USSR?
- I do not disclaim a share of responsibility. But my conscience is clear. I defended the Union to the end. To reform, renew the Union was possible and necessary.

- At what point did something go wrong and what could be changed?
- I think that the most serious, large-scale, consequences have gone after the Emergency Committee. It was a protest of the bureaucracy. I had to break with this pack, I can not call them otherwise.

- How would you rate the role in the events of the end of 1980-x - the beginning of 1990-x of Boris Yeltsin?
- Boris Nikolayevich's mood deteriorated, he just did not understand that his role is important, but it is not in what he began to do. And he began to just fight with the Allied center. The man is very overbearing, infinitely overbearing. He was very worried and was very unhappy that he was not a member of the Politburo, hence all his protests ...
At the Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Boris Nikolayevich broke down ... (This refers to Yeltsin's 21 performance on October 1987 of the year criticizing the leadership of the CPSU and the pace of restructuring. - Approx. TASS.) He even found in our political situation that the "Gorbachev personality cult ". He was looking for such (wording) to offend members of the Central Committee, to react to him ...

I think that he is a man with great potential, but his uncontrollable desire for power ... And it manifested itself later ...
I dismissed him from the post of secretary of the Central Committee, but I remained in the Plenum of the Central Committee and left him at the ministerial level (Boris Yeltsin was appointed first deputy chairman of the USSR Gosstroi. - Tass comment). And with him it was necessary to decide ... that's all.
Everyone has to remember how he behaved, how he acted or inactive on those fateful days in December 1991. I want to remind you that the overwhelming majority of the deputies of the Supreme Soviet of Russia, including the communists, who now shout the loudest about the catastrophic consequences and blame everything on Gorbachev, voted for the approval of the Belovezhsky agreement.

- When discussing the reasons for the collapse of the USSR, it is often asked why Gorbachev did not order Boris Yeltsin, the leader of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk, and the chairman of the Supreme Council of Belarus Stanislav Shushkevich to be arrested in the Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
- I did not know what was planned there, that they were going for such a purpose.
- That is, the special services did not report to you?
- The fact that for such a purpose - no. And I talked with Yeltsin. He stopped by and said that he was going to Belovezhskaya Pushcha at the invitation of the local, Shushkevich, that the Ukrainian president should drive up there. Well, come on, I say, talk to them, especially with Kravchuk. Ukraine must be, without it the Union is impossible.
Yeltsin also participated in the development of a new union treaty, he participated, and he has his signatures, he agreed with everything. But playing ...
- And you could not arrest them all the same?
- I think it smelled of civil war. Is it dangerous. It would seem that I sort of went to do this to retain power, although it was necessary to strive for it in a democratic way.

My credo is democracy, decisive changes in favor of democracy, the expulsion of totalitarianism, and without blood. Not by the way, without blood. Conflicts flared up on the periphery. But here we see what happens when very decisive people get down to business ...
The price of the scenario you are talking about is to arrest, save the Union in this way - I think “it would have smelled of kerosene”, such a fire would have spread across the country.
I made another - I gave power. I left myself to avoid bloodshed. And that's all. So they began to lead.

- The United States worked on the collapse of the Union?
- It’s impossible to say that they were directly involved in this, especially at the beginning ... Nobody thought that the Soviet Union could be eliminated. And then they began to help. They rubbed their hands under the table for how many years, almost a century, they were fighting with Russia, and here she was cutting herself.
- Do you think it is possible to restore the Soviet Union?
- The Soviet Union - no, and the Union - yes.
- In former borders?
- In the old borders and with the same composition, voluntarily ... I believe that there can be a new Union.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 14 December 2016 15: 09
    +20
    Mikhail Gorbachev: I gave power to avoid bloodshed
    Well now of course you can tell a lot. This, not you, Mikhail Sergeyevich gave the power, it’s YOU TAKE it. And PERSONALLY YOU, did everything that would not be found in the power of people who could prevent this ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 14 December 2016 15: 16
      +19
      Why did the humpback show the General Staff maps to the uglosaks?
      Why did President Yu. Korea bestow a hunchback with bank cards on 100 thousand bucks?
      Matthias Rust sat in the suburbs for refueling or not?
      There are a lot of questions, but the answers to them will not change anything, we drove through, there are no more USSR and hundreds of thousands of dead, destroyed families, except for hatred for the humpback and I like nothing.
      1. svp67
        svp67 14 December 2016 15: 23
        +20
        Quote: Balu
        Why did the humpback show the General Staff maps to the uglosaks?

        To receive the title of "Best German of the Year" ...
        Quote: Balu
        apart from hatred of the hunchback and the like, I feel nothing.

        And I also despise him. You can not respect the LEADER who betrayed you ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 14 December 2016 16: 14
          +13
          Quote: svp67
          You can not respect the LEADER who betrayed you ...

          How can one respect a leader about whom jokes were composed, such as:
          Mikhail Sergeyich enters the bathhouse, and everyone hides in basins.
          - Guys, what are you?
          - Oh, Mikhailo Sergeich, where is Rais Maximovna?
          1. svp67
            svp67 14 December 2016 16: 18
            +3
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            about which jokes were composed, such as:

            Well, henpecked, this is certainly not good for the Leader, because it turns out that even she could not make him bolder ...
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 14 December 2016 16: 29
              +13
              Quote: svp67
              Well henpecked,

              Here, Nikolashka was also henpecked. One RI collapsed, another USSR. And both prohibition introduced that Yeltsin did not like. Alcohol is a terrible force. laughing
              1. nils
                nils 14 December 2016 17: 22
                +13
                Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev was awarded with many prestigious domestic and foreign awards and prizes, including:
                Order of Honor (February 28 2001 of the year) - for his great contribution to the development of democratic transformations and in connection with his seventieth birthday.
                Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called (2 of March 2011 of the year)the highest order of the state of Russia, for his great personal contribution to strengthening peace and friendship between peoples and many years of fruitful social activity.

                With these awards, our President and the government noted his contribution to ensuring democratic freedom and independence of our country.
                IS NOT IT?
                As follows from the opinion of most commentators on the site, Putin is rarely mistaken! Gorbachev's awards are elements of a cunning plan. As for the various muck, it has nothing to do with it. Someone seems to be misleading him.
                They defeated Bendera, terrorists in Syria soon, an unprecedented economic upsurge in the country, unified children of the Central Intelligence Agency, guardsmen on guard of order. Let's see how the trip to Japan ends.
                Hurray!
                1. Kovlad
                  Kovlad 14 December 2016 17: 53
                  0
                  He put a plus ... But politics ... Her mother is tudes-syudy ...
                  1. nils
                    nils 14 December 2016 19: 07
                    +5
                    On 4 July 2012, the Grand Master of the Sovereign Order of Malta visited Moscow for the first time in the last 200 years since Alexander I expelled the Maltese from the borders of the Russian Empire.
                    On July 5, the Grand Master M. Festing presented the highest award of the Order of Malta - the Knight's Military Cross to the former head of the Russian Emergencies Ministry S.K.Shoigu.
                    In addition to Shoigu, the happy owners of the Knight's Cross in Russia are: B.A. Berezovsky, G.E. Burbulis, M.S. Gorbachev, B.N. Yeltsin, V.V. Kostikov, M.Yu. Lesin, S.F. Lisovsky, E.M. Primakov, A.V. Rutskoi, S.A. Filatov, M.Sh. Shaimiev, S .M.Shakhrai, V.B. Yumashev, S.V. Yastrzhembsky.
                    1. PHANTOM-AS
                      PHANTOM-AS 14 December 2016 20: 06
                      +2
                      Quote: nils
                      nils

                      Bravo nils [
                      1. Mahmut
                        Mahmut 15 December 2016 13: 20
                        0
                        Here, Nikolashka was also henpecked. One RI collapsed, another USSR.

                        I compared horseradish to a finger. Russia began to fall apart after the overthrow of the tsar, and the USSR began to fall apart before the departure of the secretary general. Under "nikolashka" the trans-Siberian was built, the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires were defeated, Germany was practically squeezed. "budenovok" sewn several million. By 1917, 40 million art. shells left. Baghdad and Helsinki were Russian cities. What kind of collapse we are talking about.
            2. EvgNik
              EvgNik 14 December 2016 18: 21
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              even she couldn’t make it bolder ...

              But she was able to make a traitor. Everything from Raisa went.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 14 December 2016 16: 04
        +6
        Quote: Balu
        Why did the humpback show the General Staff maps to the uglosaks?

        Perestroika, publicity, reboot and pluralism of opinions. Al forgot?
        Quote: Balu
        Why did President Yu. Korea bestow a hunchback with bank cards on 100 thousand bucks?

        Do not lie, he received one check, another Rais Maksimovna got it. fellow
        Quote: Balu
        Matthias Rust sat in the suburbs for refueling or not?

        He, redneck, still complained about our zone, said that the water is bad, it smells of bleach. Therefore, they released. am
        Quote: Balu
        apart from hatred of the hunchback and the like, I feel nothing.

        drinks hi
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 14 December 2016 16: 11
          +8
          Do not lie, he received one check, another Rais Maksimovna got it.
          Kryuchkov in his last 5-hour interview with Karaulov: I told him: You mean, when will you hand over the cards to the cashier? Misha: then. then ... Then they were found during the GKChP in Misha’s office. the kid was preparing sidings, although maybe the rye wasn’t enough for diamonds again?
          1. captain
            captain 14 December 2016 18: 20
            +1
            Thanks to the CPSU, it helped Europe to ruin Russia. No wonder the apologists for communism K. Marx and F. Engels called on all forces to be thrown into the struggle against the barbarians, the Eastern Slavs. They fought for a thousand years and could not win, but here in 70 years everything worked out.
            1. ava09
              ava09 15 December 2016 02: 38
              +2
              Quote: captain
              Thanks to the CPSU, it helped Europe to ruin Russia.

              Do not limit global phenomena to the Procrustean bed of a primitive worldview ...
            2. Uncle Murzik
              Uncle Murzik 15 December 2016 06: 16
              +1
              captain do you fantasize again? well it will become more than once that you were caught on an outright lie laughing
      3. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 15 December 2016 08: 59
        0
        Quote: Balu
        There are a lot of questions, but the answers to them will not change anything, we drove through, there are no more USSR and hundreds of thousands of dead, destroyed families, except for hatred for the humpback and I like nothing.

        And I thought that the Russians are grateful to Mikhail Sergeyevich for the collapse of the Sov. Union, now it is not necessary to maintain the union republics.
    2. OLD FART
      OLD FART 14 December 2016 19: 05
      +9
      Look men in his eyes ... These are the eyes of a "lowered" person, on whom hangs the load of betrayal and hundreds of thousands of ruined, murdered lives (of all nationalities of the USSR)
      I think Raisa is already in hell ... Michael clings, claws and is afraid to see their eyes ...
      Well, they walked with Raika ... negative
    3. tihiy
      tihiy 14 December 2016 22: 55
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Mikhail Gorbachev: I gave power to avoid bloodshed
      Well now of course you can tell a lot. This, not you, Mikhail Sergeyevich gave the power, it’s YOU TAKE it. And PERSONALLY YOU, did everything that would not be found in the power of people who could prevent this ...

      Chaldon is empty. worthless balabol.
      what he could do as much as possible was to swipe envelopes with money from visitors into the table with a quick movement of his hand.
      He worked this operation until automatic ...
      Hence the nickname - "Misha envelope"
    4. Titsen
      Titsen 15 December 2016 06: 46
      0
      Quote: svp67
      PERSONALLY YOU, did everything that would not be found, in the power of people who could prevent this ...


      I don’t even want to once again sort the bones of the old toad.

      But she lives in the West, because she knows that if she had stayed in Russia, then they would have found a neck near the toad and used it in public for its intended purpose!
  2. Walking
    Walking 14 December 2016 15: 11
    +8
    However, as a result, a lot of blood was shed and there were enough victims.
  3. vkl.47
    vkl.47 14 December 2016 15: 13
    +15
    Galim's excuse. Yanukovych is the same. He humiliated the golden eagle and dumped his tail. And he could just give the order to bring down those creatures who came with weapons. They just told him that his accounts would freeze. That's why he thought not about the people and the country, but about money. Did they really they think that as the pharaohs will take everything with them to the next world? in the next world he will be on his knees in equal dress. they didn’t want blood ... but what led to?! tens of thousands of dead. and in the case of the hunchback, the bill is millions
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 14 December 2016 17: 17
      +8
      Hang them a couple !! One for the collapse of the union and the other for the collapse of Ukraine and the creation of banderlogy from it !! am And it’s better to exchange it for Scythian gold of Crimea, which the Dutch coop has decided to transfer to kuev!
    2. Serega86
      14 December 2016 20: 10
      0
      the history of Russia shows that if someone starts to "blame" then they will not remain in debt, they just did not want to start a civil war by their own decision
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 14 December 2016 15: 23
    +11
    Those. those ethnic cleansing that began in the former Soviet republics, he does not consider bloodshed? Judas.
    1. cap
      cap 14 December 2016 16: 11
      +7
      Quote: Engineer
      Those. those ethnic cleansing that began in the former Soviet republics, he does not consider bloodshed? Judas.

      Judas.......!
      I want to catch a cold .... at the funeral.drinks
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 14 December 2016 20: 08
        +7
        Quote: cap
        I want to catch a cold .... at the funeral.

        And I'm on his execution
    2. captain
      captain 14 December 2016 18: 22
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      Those. those ethnic cleansing that began in the former Soviet republics, he does not consider bloodshed? Judas.

      He is not a Judas, he is a real communist-Leninist. Read the Pravda newspaper.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 14 December 2016 22: 51
        +5
        Quote: captain
        He is not a Judas, he is a real communist-Leninist. Read the Pravda newspaper.

        The real Communists lay on the embrasures, the planes were sent to the columns of tanks and the first to rise in the attack !!!
        And this one was and is a rather mediocre and near Judas and will burn for his 30 pieces of silver. In hell !!!
  5. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 14 December 2016 15: 25
    +12
    “If, choosing between war and shame, you prefer shame, then, in the end, you will inevitably get both war and shame ...”
  6. tinibar
    tinibar 14 December 2016 15: 26
    +8
    People can be lied to, and they can even believe, but here's what you, M.S. will you speak at God's trial?
    1. Smog
      Smog 14 December 2016 15: 33
      +12
      Probably the consensus will be looking ..., Judas.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 14 December 2016 16: 21
        +6
        Quote: Smog
        Probably the consensus will be looking ..., Judas.

        Wow, damn it, I already forgot that word. With this consensus it would be over a labeled bald head.
      2. tinibar
        tinibar 14 December 2016 22: 40
        0
        On the sinful Earth, he hid his anus in Germany from the "consensus" ... laughing And there, I’m sure it won’t work!
    2. captain
      captain 14 December 2016 18: 23
      0
      Quote: tinibar
      People can be lied to, and they can even believe, but here's what you, M.S. will you speak at God's trial?

      He is atheist and will not be judged at God's court. he is a communist with a capital letter. read the materials of the Congress of the CPSU.
  7. Smog
    Smog 14 December 2016 15: 26
    +13
    Was the US working to break up the Union?
    - It’s impossible to say that they were directly involved in this, especially at the beginning ... Nobody thought that the Soviet Union could be eliminated. And then they began to help. They rubbed their hands under the table for how many years, almost a century, they were fighting with Russia, and here she was cutting herself.


    Well of course, of course. States they are generally aloof. They stood and watched., Yeah. Even twice.
    Well, and "our" first and last pre. (Eh, he asks for another word, but nizya), he is a resident of the USSR. White, white and fluffy, fluffy ...
    And he was given a medal for no reason.
    On the front side is an allegorical figure of Freedom, sitting on a dais and overlooking the landscape of the German city of Fulda in East Germany, from where the West expected Soviet aggression. Not wait. But the unofficial US commemorative award deserves attention. Without wearing it, she is awarded military personnel of the US Armed Forces and civil servants of the federal government who have an official certificate of service during the Cold War. It was this medal that awarded Mikhail Gorbachev.
    - The medal issued in the West to mark the collapse of the Soviet Union was awarded not to a member of the American army, not to a representative of the federal government, but to the first president of the USSR
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 14 December 2016 20: 02
      +4
      Quote: Smog
      And he was given a medal for no reason.

      The current government of the Russian Federation handed him a medal.
  8. kouldoom
    kouldoom 14 December 2016 15: 31
    +6
    Thank you For the hungry childhood of my Parents
  9. cannabis
    cannabis 14 December 2016 15: 32
    +10
    Gorbachev had four divisions of the KGB special forces; military counterintelligence had lists of all the leaders of the national underground in the republics. Military transport planes flew into the ZGV to deliver infantry to the USSR. It remained to give a simple command. Hid in a closet .... Komsomolets.
    1. Serega86
      14 December 2016 20: 13
      +1

      in principle, he called for a reason, he was refused
  10. antivirus
    antivirus 14 December 2016 15: 40
    +2
    At the Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU, Boris Nikolayevich fell through ... (I mean the speech of Yeltsin on October 21, 1987
    one acquaintance said: acquaintances from TV gave the tape to listen, Yeltsin’s speech at the plenum, he called them ikroedy ...
    Take care of Misha
  11. NEXUS
    NEXUS 14 December 2016 15: 42
    +14
    “I think it smelled of civil war.”

    To count the dead as a consequence of the policy of the Mark, so there is enough for three civil wars.
    The traitor will always try to whitewash himself, speaking of the humanity and foresight of his actions ... but he is only Judas and Judas in Africa. And the outcome is one-30 silver coins and a loop.
    1. Krabik
      Krabik 14 December 2016 18: 38
      0
      He lives in chocolate and the loop does not shine for him.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 14 December 2016 18: 53
        +6
        Quote: Krabik
        He lives in chocolate and the loop does not shine for him.

        Without a home, homeland and fatherland, knowing that your people saw you in a tomb, would you like such a life for yourself? The loop is better for me.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 14 December 2016 18: 58
          +6
          Quote: NEXUS
          Without a home, homeland and fatherland, knowing that your people saw you in a tomb

          And there is such a type of people. I don’t even know what to call them. There are not enough words. hi
        2. Krabik
          Krabik 14 December 2016 19: 24
          +3
          He has a house and a homeland and a fatherland, it just seems to you that this is Russia, and England to him ...
    2. Serega86
      14 December 2016 20: 16
      0
      at the end of the 80's they could have gotten a face for Yeltsin, so people believed him and so they hated the CPSU, just now no one wants to admit it, if it had been the other way round no one would have elected Yeltsin as president of the RSFSR
  12. idr
    idr 14 December 2016 15: 43
    +10
    traitor he is a traitor
    1. captain
      captain 14 December 2016 19: 41
      +2
      Quote: iDr
      traitor he is a traitor

      He is not a traitor, he is a communist-Leninist, a real Marxist, read party literature. Read the works of Marx. he writes there about the struggle against the eastern barbarians. Here Gorbachev fulfilled the precepts of the great Marx.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 14 December 2016 20: 53
        +1
        Quote: captain
        He is not a traitor, he is a communist-Leninist, a real Marxist, read party literature. Read the works of Marx. he writes there about the struggle against the eastern barbarians. Here Gorbachev fulfilled the precepts of the great Marx.

        Quote: captain
        He is not a Judas, he is a real communist-Leninist. Read the newspaper Pravda

        You like biljo
  13. fif21
    fif21 14 December 2016 15: 45
    +11
    Friend of Yanukovych! The same rag and. He sold the country to the West for promises and flattery, and that’s his power was taken from him. Reforms need to be carried out in their own country, and not to lick with partners who hate everything Russian. There is no excuse for a hunchback - contempt and curses. hi
  14. vanavatny
    vanavatny 14 December 2016 15: 51
    +9
    maybe it’s enough to enrage me already by quoting this lousy? in this country he won’t even appear on the street without an armored car: you’ll be labeled for long torments (and it doesn’t matter to me: he’s a naive fool and a traitor) am
  15. Besmaster
    Besmaster 14 December 2016 16: 06
    +10
    He gave power to avoid the shedding of the blood of traitors and Tolerasts. And the blood of the patriots still poured. Their fates collapsed, their lives were cut short - in the 93rd under the Ostankino and the White House, in the 94th in Chechnya, in Abkhazia, in Transnistria, in the Balkans. So wasn’t it better to shed some Tolerast blood in the 91st ?. Perhaps a bony and satiated ?. As if the life of a curly rocker in boiled jeans is more important than the life of Soviet officers.
    1. Serega86
      14 December 2016 20: 22
      0
      So wasn’t it better to shed some Tolerast blood in 91?
      I don’t agree with you, you are writing about the Tolerast then nobody thought so, people went under the tanks during the putsch GKChP soldiers refused to obey orders and the generals did not want to give them these orders

      keeping the country from collapse by troops is possible only for a while, remember the experience of the countries of the ATS or Yugoslavia, the Serbs did not succeed - is there really an example in the modern world where it was possible to stop the collapse with the help of troops and without a subsequent coup?

      you can only keep the country from collapse by troops
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 14 December 2016 20: 42
        +5
        Quote: Serega86
        Is there really an example in the modern world where it was possible to stop the collapse with the help of troops and without a subsequent coup?

        Tananmen - China - 1989.
      2. Besmaster
        Besmaster 18 December 2016 22: 46
        +2
        Quote: Serega86
        Is there really an example in the modern world where it was possible to stop the collapse with the help of troops and without a subsequent coup?

        There is. Tiananmen. And if the generals did not want to give orders, then they are also tolerasts. And in general - generals do not like to give such orders without a politician with political will, who will take responsibility for these actions. In a situation where the country's top leadership sucked their tongues in the ass - it is not surprising that alpha refused to fire a bullet into Yeltsin’s lobeshnik when he shone on them standing on an armored personnel carrier
  16. vladimirw
    vladimirw 14 December 2016 16: 08
    +11
    Misha, a marked enemy of Russia and the Soviet Union, definitely received a medal of the US Congress for victory in the Cold War.
    save the photo with the VO, it came in handy
  17. midshipman
    midshipman 14 December 2016 16: 20
    +15
    I was transferred to work in the USSR Ministry of Radio and Radio Engineering in 1979. A little later, my good friends Romanov G.V. were transferred to the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU. and Zaykov L.N. From them later I learned all the subtleties of the collapse of the USSR. Tagged (I have no strength to name this n ..... ka by name). The labeled one formed a group in the person of Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, who began to prepare the soil of choice instead of the Brezhnev labeled combiner. Gromyko also supported them. And they were supposed to elect GV Romanov, who has experience in public administration, as the General Secretary .. But what happened happened. The initiator of this Sabbath was Yakovlev, whom the special services did not arrest. So, on the instructions of the USA, the USSR was destroyed, the Warsaw Pact and millions of people were thrown into poverty. And this p ... t still walks the earth. I have the honor.
    1. Kovlad
      Kovlad 14 December 2016 17: 28
      +8
      If he lived in Russia, he would have to live in a boat in the middle of the ocean, formed after spitting in his direction. And looking at his photo, I’ll add: he’s just scared, the time is right to go to another world and he perfectly understands that so many millions of people specifically hate him ... And this ... although it’s mysticism, it exists (I have no evidence, but I believe) and TAM will be bad for him.
      And when this type dies, I will launch Chinese fireworks into the sky and drink champagne.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 14 December 2016 18: 31
      +6
      The labeled one formed a group in the person of Yakovlev, Shevarnadze, who began to prepare the ground for choice instead of Brezhnev’s labeled combiner
      Kryuchkov in his last 5-hour interview with Karaulov: I come to him with a folder of documents proving the recruitment of Yakovlev and Kalugin during an internship at Columbia University (late 50s, by the way there were three, but I did not remember the name of the third, Kryuchkov did not speak about him ) He told me then, then ... And before the GKChP, he says, but you show him (Yakovlev) yourself ...
      And the decision on the State Emergency Committee was developed on the instructions of Gorbachev; I myself read it in the Komsomolka a few months before. Gorbach hoped with the hands of the State Emergency Committee to sweep the competitor, and if it does not succeed, he would have nothing to do with it. It would be better if the humpback died when he was little. angry
    3. Serega86
      14 December 2016 20: 26
      0
      Warsaw Pact
      who liked the communism in the Warsaw Pact? Hungarians or Czechs and Slovaks? he would have fallen apart anyway, it’s a matter of time when people do not do anything against it and propaganda will not help if words diverge from reality
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 14 December 2016 21: 09
        +3
        Quote: Serega86
        who liked the communism in the Warsaw Pact? Hungarians or Czechs and Slovaks? he would have fallen apart anyway, it’s a matter of time when people do not do anything against it and propaganda will not help if words diverge from reality

        Everyone liked it. But these sympathies had to be supported by a financial dose and a military umbrella. The union collapsed, Gorbachev and Yeltsin betrayed not only the country, but also the allies. What is it worth to extradite Honnecker to Yeltsin? Ceausescu's assassination further strengthened the understanding that Russia would not interfere in the salvation of yesterday's allies. The very course Yeltsin's Russia took towards rapprochement with the West did not leave the countries of the former Warsaw Treaty with any other alternative but to "offer" its services to the West, racing with Russia. We also cut tanks, fleets and missiles in order to convince the West of our readiness to accept their rules of the game. Why blame them (Bulgarians, Czechs, Romanians and Poles) now, if they themselves pushed them away? Do you know what will happen tomorrow if suddenly today Russia becomes, if not a hegemon (and there is no such goal), then a leading power on the Euro-Asian continent? Tomorrow, all these flea states will already swear allegiance to Russia. This is their fate. They never had full sovereignty and were always dependent on the strongest. With amazing zeal, they will catch those who have distinguished themselves with Russophobic attacks, packing them in prison, until the next weakening of Russia. I do not believe in their hatred, as well as in friendship. Just a buffer zone, passing from hand to hand, like a pennant of the leaders of social. Competition.
  18. cap
    cap 14 December 2016 16: 22
    +4
    Cons canceled it well "0" I ignore when I disagree. But never going down a branch I leave those with whom I agree (+).
    We are few ... But we are in vests! drinks
  19. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 14 December 2016 16: 24
    +9
    I really hope that this labeled one will die in hellish torment and in the next life will be a louse! Burn you in hell, vile humpback beast!
    It is a pity that he does not live in Russia, they would have long banged a bastard ...
  20. free
    free 14 December 2016 16: 25
    +8
    do not try to whitewash yourself Judas!
  21. zenion
    zenion 14 December 2016 16: 29
    +3
    And such a miracle was born during the time of Stalin!
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 14 December 2016 21: 17
      +2
      Quote: zenion
      And such a miracle was born during the time of Stalin!

      It was okay - it’s not so bad, but the fact that after the fall of the USSR he declared that all his life he had been carrying on the intentions to avenge his repressed grandfather, and the socialist ideology “strained” him, this was definitely a flaw of the Chekists. However, the fact that he still smokes the sky with his presence. He probably does not look at Wikipedia, there is a lot of things written there, which he is trying so hard to disown from today.
  22. esaul1950
    esaul1950 14 December 2016 16: 30
    +7
    Coward, traitor, liar.
  23. den-protector
    den-protector 14 December 2016 16: 35
    +7
    Is this arrow traitor still alive? It has nothing to do with it, it turns out. All others are to blame.
  24. Appraiser
    Appraiser 14 December 2016 16: 37
    +6
    "Mikhail Gorbachev: I gave up power to avoid bloodshed"
    It would be better if he, ,,,,, and such problems would not be in the country. am
  25. Semirek
    Semirek 14 December 2016 17: 03
    +2
    Time always has a circumstance and a logical one is connected, so that low treason could be explained with high words. hi
  26. volodya
    volodya 14 December 2016 17: 30
    +5
    Gorbachev's ear, because he did his dirty deed! The Moor has done his job, the Moor may leave!
  27. rfotq
    rfotq 14 December 2016 17: 52
    +3
    the old still does not feel fear
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 14 December 2016 21: 22
      +1
      Quote: rfotq
      the old still does not feel fear

      No, if he drove speeches in the sense that - "I'm not me, and the horse is not mine," then most likely the ghoul senses that the clouds are gathering over him and not today tomorrow, he can be pulled up for a conversation in the country that he "rebuilt" it so that for 25 years he has lived more comfortably in London than in Russia.
  28. Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich
    Ryabtsev Grigory Evgenievich 14 December 2016 17: 56
    +4
    A lying cowardly m.a.a.z., not able to independently make a decision!
  29. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 14 December 2016 18: 14
    +7
    humpbacked-you gave your throne, your house, your power-you just-shook everything. You were the king, the glanomomandant, chief. Instead, to protect your house, your kingdom, your country, your people, your people, you just all this, prosral. You had all the powers and all the power, duty and duty, as the most important of your country and people, to protect your home, your country and your people. You were the leader, the main thing, called to protect your country and your people-you were given for this-all power and all powers. And you-just buried it all, HANDED THE ENEMY AND PROSRAL. You scum I betrayed my country, my people, my soldiers, ready to fight for the country, people and you.
    1. Krabik
      Krabik 14 December 2016 18: 47
      +3
      Puff in vain.

      Imagine that from birth Gorbacheva led MI6 and pushed through the service.

      He was an ordinary saboteur, who honestly performed his duties, for which he received awards for excellent work.
    2. Serega86
      14 December 2016 20: 28
      +1
      I repeat, the army did not support him
  30. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 14 December 2016 18: 29
    +3
    Two brother acrobats - Gorbachev and Yanukovych. Peace lovers. laughing

    The difference is that Ukrainians began to suspect something vaguely, and hatred of Gorbachev is only growing and growing stronger! am
  31. Deniosf
    Deniosf 14 December 2016 18: 29
    +4
    Judge him for his crime against the people !!
  32. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 14 December 2016 18: 46
    +3
    That's how trying to get out, like in a frying pan wassat
    Where was the conscience when the West gave trinkets for the collapse of the country ???! request
    Treason - it is treason at all times and does not have a statute of limitations yes
    The people have their own opinion regarding the Tagged one and it does not fit in any way with all Western regalia and bonuses ...
    He did not want victims. But he endowed people with years of humiliation, suffering, breaking their brains, hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of lost and mutilated fates and a bonus - rotten capitalism with its injustice, oligarchs, brothers, corruption and the Unified State Exam ....
  33. Al. Peresvet
    Al. Peresvet 14 December 2016 18: 55
    +3
    Quote: Rurikovich
    That's how trying to get out, like in a frying pan wassat
    Where was the conscience when the West gave trinkets for the collapse of the country ???! request
    Treason - it is treason at all times and does not have a statute of limitations yes
    The people have their own opinion regarding the Tagged one and it does not fit in any way with all Western regalia and bonuses ...
    He did not want victims. But he endowed people with years of humiliation, suffering, breaking their brains, hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of lost and mutilated fates and a bonus - rotten capitalism with its injustice, oligarchs, brothers, corruption and the Unified State Exam ....

    After the collapse of the country, in Russia and on the former territory of the country, they received hunger, cold, frostbitten bandits, thieves, organized crime groups, general unemployment, prostitution, drug addiction, military conflicts in the territory of the former country, death and ruin.
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    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 14 December 2016 19: 19
      0
      Quote: Al. Peresvet
      Oh yes. And then the KGB of the USSR did not shoot him? After all, the work of the KGB is to defend your country!

      I think we all needed to go through this "purgatory" and understand who we are ...! Now it is easy to reason and blame ... And then there was complete confusion. hi
  35. OLD FART
    OLD FART 14 December 2016 19: 15
    +5
    The topic is very painful and yet ... THIS IS PURE A TRAITOR! When the humpback ceased to be the head of the USSR (the EBN directly said that he wants) He fled to the west and now look how he made money ... Pizza advertisement! This is not a fake, it is a fact of humiliation of us with this scum ..

    God bless Russia from the devils of all stripes ..
    .
  36. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 14 December 2016 19: 28
    +6
    Sneaky liar, sneaky bloody traitor. USA for him is the country he serves.
    Coward dodges like a frying pan.
    The CIA prepared the answers for him. The people remember everything.
    If he spoke to the country, the USSR would be alive, and millions of people would not die.
    Everything was calculated by Western intelligence agencies. The RSFSR existed only nominally. Everything was decided at the level of the USSR. Therefore, when deputies were elected to the union parliament, the best were elected. But nobody just read the lists of deputies in the RSFSR, and the people were not interested in who would sit in the armchairs for hours, because at this level significant issues were never resolved. Bialowieza agreements needed to be considered at the union level. Well this is insanity, to give a decision to those who, as a result of the collapse, became a statesman.
    This tyrant is a bloody tyrant, along with EBN.
    And most of all, I want people to come to power who will make a decision and call the Yeltsin center, and at this place they will not be allowed to build anything else, but there will only be a sign - "Here was destroyed a monument to a traitor, guilty of the death of millions of citizens of the country." and nothing more.
  37. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 14 December 2016 19: 36
    +6
    "I gave the power to avoid bloodshed" is a lie to please the West,
    The truth is:
    "Gorbachev gave up power in order to flood the country with the blood of Russians and patriots, to doom the people to suffering and extinction, and to sell the country."
  38. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 14 December 2016 19: 51
    +2
    Here is an example for Yanukovych, who unleashed, in any case, contributed to the outbreak of civil war in Ukraine. But both were against bloodshed.
  39. Berkut24
    Berkut24 14 December 2016 19: 58
    +5
    "But my conscience is clear."
    In fact, honest people shoot in such situations. Pugo generally found himself in a situation by accident, but pulled the trigger.
    The country has collapsed, German citizenship has been obtained, the fund has been financed by the West ... Conscience is clear! .... your mother !!!
  40. demand1
    demand1 14 December 2016 20: 20
    +4
    The title of the article is not correct, it should be like this: I pissed off the power, because I'm a rag
  41. iouris
    iouris 14 December 2016 20: 29
    +4
    Nobel Peace Prize in the studio!
    He sold power so that bloodshed never ends.
  42. jovanni
    jovanni 14 December 2016 20: 51
    +4
    It was when he came to power, then his name was Mikhail Gorbachev. Even Sergeevich. And he was the most important leader of the Soviet Union, one of the two most powerful countries in the world. And he left as an advertising agent for Italian pizza. And his name became "hump". And he himself became one of the most disgusting villains that the earth carried. Judas level. Damn him!
  43. potapych
    potapych 14 December 2016 22: 00
    +4
    First he gave the country, then power - a rag, a traitor!
  44. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 14 December 2016 22: 38
    +1
    Quote: Mikhail Gorbachev:
    I gave power to avoid bloodshed

    "dEbil ..."
  45. van50man
    van50man 14 December 2016 23: 45
    +3
    Simply - a coward, a scoundrel and a traitor (which, in fact, is one and the same). Breaking - you don't need a lot of mind (even in this field they make a career) - that's something to build, create, ... you need talent, faith and skill (than God deprived .... ,, hero ,,). But, asking "a host of a great power for a pinch of tobacco .... not the first in a series of traitors and false patriots!
    1. van50man
      van50man 14 December 2016 23: 50
      +3
      Yes, and ... it’s especially unpleasant when our once beloved and respected, “pillars,” pop-rock movement hang out at the anniversary of this individual and eat oysters at the table, dousing with sauces and, “Poya,” dimerambs ....! disgusting and disgusting for them and for themselves .....
  46. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 December 2016 07: 33
    +2
    I don’t want to see or hear this. I wait when he will put gym shoes in a corner to dance! angry
  47. CONTROL
    CONTROL 15 December 2016 07: 50
    +1
    I left myself to avoid bloodshed.

    ... yes, they could have slapped! Yes, and it was necessary ...
    Coward, in a word!
  48. Enoch
    Enoch 15 December 2016 08: 51
    +2
    "- Did the USA work for the disintegration of the Union?
    - It cannot be said that they were directly involved in this, especially at the beginning ... Nobody thought that the Soviet Union could be liquidated. And then they started helping. "
    Help the Brokeback to ruin the Union.
  49. ARES623
    ARES623 15 December 2016 09: 10
    +2
    "I did something different - I gave up the power. I left myself to avoid bloodshed. And that's all. So they began to lead."
    Breshet like a gray gelding. By the time he "gave up" the power, he could only shed blood by cutting himself with a straight razor while shaving his own face. Nothing depended on him. He had neither the army, nor the police, nor the KGB at his disposal. During his presidency, he set up all of them so, betrayed that no one would stand up for him.
  50. Bering Strait
    Bering Strait 15 December 2016 10: 13
    +3
    Misha, you sold the country for thirty pieces of silver. You are Judas ...