Cossacks will receive permission to carry military weapons and will protect state structures.

The Russian Cossacks have the opportunity to receive combat weapon and create security structures. This was announced in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky by Alexander Beglov, deputy head of the presidential administration, at a meeting with the activists of the Separate Kamchatka Cossack District of the Ussurian Cossack Troop Society.

"The uniform uniform for the Cossack societies was approved by the president. In addition, the Cossack army can now create security structures. The Cossacks will be able to receive weapons. Municipal and state institutions will gradually go under their protection," said Beglov, adding that "Cossacks will not be involved to the protection of commercial organizations. "

“Another activity of the Cossacks will be the creation of a mobilization resource,” said Alexander Beglov. According to him, in case of emergency or unforeseen situations, the Cossacks will come to the aid of the security forces and the state.

"The Cossacks have two main ally - the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense," said Beglov. He also said that the Russian president approved the identity of the Cossack. This certificate will be issued by the military commissar, it will indicate the rank of the Cossack, as well as a mark on the permission to bear arms.

According to Beglov, great attention will be paid to the revival of cultural traditions and work with young people, ITAR-TASS said.

Comments

[alex21411]

It was high time to do this.

[recitatorus]

This is a good thing, but any good business with us, as a rule, will be brought to the point of absurdity: now the bandits can’t move to the military enlistment office to buy Cossack certificates ...

[asavchenko59]

Great news!

[edge]

Namely, let Russia become stronger

[pirate technician]

Cossacks would be given places in the army. These guys carry the spirit of patriotism! Work with young people has long been done.

[schta]

Who forbids a Cossack to serve in the armed forces?

[Igor]

What the hell..only the Cossacks, it is necessary to allow all citizens to buy pistols and machine guns.

[urzul]

When did the Cossacks become civilians ??

[Amur]

Igor wanted to say - it’s great that the Cossacks finally noted, BUT not only the Cossacks should be given the opportunity to carry weapons. The main problem is that uro..do have a weapon and do not give a damn about the law, but normal people are afraid, because even their home cannot be protected from them. Igorka +

[Zmeyuga]

And the Circassians and Chechens-always wore!

[Zmeyuga]

Prohibit everyone except the military, police, and other special services. And if allowed, then these "good citizens" will shoot each other first. And the bandits will shoot civilians legally.

[Igor]

Quote: Zmeyuga

And if allowed, then these "good citizens" will shoot each other first. And the bandits will shoot civilians legally.

Not really your citizen Snake, you look which open, if we freely sell weapons to citizens:
1) We take from the warehouses 10 million. Kalash and 5 million pistols and sell them, Kalash for 60 thousand., and pistols for 20 thousand. Enough money to rearm the army with a new machine, and for the remaining money we will buy 300 PAK-FA, and what effect will the cops have in ordinary life? cease to demand bribes, judges will judge only by fairness.
2) We’ll start selling machine guns, SVDs and a vzvchatka with a radio fuse, and officials will stop taking bribes and demand kickbacks, and housing and public utilities officials will clean the sewers themselves if the plumbers are busy.
3) Let's start selling Arrows and underwater mines and there will be no aligarchs.
4) We will begin to sell long-range large-caliber sniper rifles to the president and the government, he will tell the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth.
5) We will sell grenade launchers and in NATO there will be not only satSa, but also sratSa only at the mention of us.

[Alexei]

You still forgot to add: husbands will stop cheating on wives, production managers will increase the wages of workers, people will stop littering, because the janitor Fomich will be watching intently from the window with a sniper in his hands.
I am not against military weapons to the Cossacks, on the contrary - in favor. But in order to equip civilians ... Nichrome our society is not ready for trunks.

[wasjasibirjac]

according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, about 20 million trunks are in the hands of citizens. how many were used to commit crimes? The Ministry of Internal Affairs cannot say, but also says that we will kill each other. maybe you need to trust your people?

[DYMITRY]

Registered Cossacks have been allowed for almost a year, in fact, even obliged. The truth is at his own expense.

[Old prdun]

The line for the goths, emo and gays. The Goths will guard the temples, the emo cemeteries., And the blue - municipal institutions.

[Setevik]

Quote: Old prdun

and blue - municipal institutions.

not ....... American Embassy ...

[Ragnarek]

It would be nice to restore the Cossack units in the army.

[Victor]

I am sure that the Cossacks will not shame the trust of the state.

[Zmeyuga]

Yeah! he will kill all the infidels, chopping up the workers - they have always been royal servants.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Yes, no one's minions, they were freemen in a word

[ytqnhfk]

Agrarians and anarchists agree with Vasilenko! I’m generally against these Cossacks, they didn’t really treat the authorities at one time! As they say, nobody is into anything!

[serge]

So you can imagine the Cossacks on Bolotnaya Square. And the "liberals" fled in fear ...

[vadimus]

And on the heels of liberalism, but on the ridge, and with a guy guy !!! Lepota!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

one simple question, but what a hell to them whip, how many out of a dozen "Cossacks" will sit behind an armored personnel carrier and be able to start it, not speaking already to drive 10-15 meters, how many of them are using MODERN weapons, not museum weapons ?? !!
if it’s a military formation and not a circle of artistic activity, then they need to be trained in modern combat and not in saber-clanging and brass crosses

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

That's right Uncle Vova !!!!!

[opium21]

one more Jew

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and you can explain a thought more ?!

[Hans grohman]

Golden words, Yuri Venediktovich (s). In no case should the Cossacks be a free circus with mummers clowns, but a real and fighting force! But...
First, it is necessary to determine the place of the Cossacks in the power structures (and by and large in society), and then decide how and at whose expense to train them. There are too many questions, for this I propose to write an article "About the Cossacks" and discuss these issues there.

And yes - not all of the Cossacks are "disguised", there are also normal guys who are aware of the need for normal preparation of their l / s, and try to solve this problem to the best of their ability.

[forkboy]

You tell the Cossacks from the Kursk region of the Stavropol Territory that they are mummers, I will look at you. They, without the support of the security forces, defended their land from Chekhov. They dug ditches, made patrols, and a lot of blood was released to the adversary.

[Hans grohman]

Tell me, Forkboy, why did you decide that I refer the people you indicated to the mummers?
In my understanding, the mummers are those for whom the Cossacks are primarily a social status, with all the bonuses that follow from this, for whom authenticity and surroundings are more important than military training, these are those who go to the offices of officials, pushing their interests, and does not go on patrol to the streets ... could continue, but is it necessary?
I hope you understand what I mean.

I do not say that all Cossacks are mummers, on the contrary, there are really Cossacks — people for whom the Cossacks, above all, the legitimate opportunity to protect themselves, their family, their country.

Something like that.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

how many of them are 1% of the total booth or two, no one says that without exception, but for the most part it is a booth, and 100% has no relation to the Cossacks as a caste and as part of the power structure, and what you say is self-defense of people in connection with the connivance of the state, the same thing happened in the Second World War when people themselves created Pratizan detachments without a top-up.
the discussion is about creating a real force on an ongoing basis, capable of conducting, if necessary, military operations in a modern war using modern weapons and, if necessary, committing deviation raids

[Hans grohman]

Vladimir, you know the realities of the legislation of the Russian Federation. After the events of the Caucasus, themis seem to have hosted illegal armed groups everywhere. And the Cossacks - a real opportunity to engage in preparation, not being afraid to fall under the article. What is the current percentage ratio of mummers and real, I don’t know, but I want to believe that you are mistaken, and the real amount of the second category is more than you indicated.

And yet, as someone wrote in the comments below - the Cossacks, this (with the right approach) is really an opportunity to create their own analogue (or counterbalance - here someone like it more), their private armies.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

we are now discussing the realities of the law

Quote: Hans Grohman

I do not know, but I want to believe that you are mistaken, and the real amount of the second category is greater than you indicated.

I also want to but alas

Quote: Hans Grohman

And yet, as someone wrote in the comments below - the Cossacks, this (with the right approach) is really an opportunity to create their own analogue (or counterbalance - here someone like it more), their private armies.

while there is no approach, while there is an attempt by the old rusty Cossack, attempts to tune and make it look like a behu - this is not possible, today it needs to be done from scratch, well, it may not form such a class from the full (just a estate or caste as you like), it doesn’t it should be closed into it and any patriot should be able to get into it, but initially it will have to be different from the Cossacks by the lack of the same free will and anarchy, I want to fight today, and I don’t want to leave for Don

[Hans grohman]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

we are now discussing the realities of the law

Well, why, in my opinion, is the conversation about the Cossacks in one way or another confronted with the legislative framework, and indeed the article itself ...

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

no approach yet

And he will not appear on his own. It needs to be created, or created (for those who should, and has the right to deal with these issues). How? Yes, at least with such discussions as those conducted here by forum users. Even better is to write an article on this topic, and describe in it more objectively and specifically - what’s what. I think that representatives of the authorities, or people around them, are sure to read this forum. You never know? After all, if they like the stated idea, there is a chance that they can issue it in the bill, and there, you look, and ... well, something I dreamed about

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

but initially it will have to differ from the Cossacks by the lack of that same free will and anarchy, I want to fight today, and I don’t want to leave for Don

I agree completely, but again "but" ... if there is no "element of freemen" at all, then it will no longer be quite a Cossack this time; the state will not have the opportunity to excuse itself from the participation of the Cossacks in this or that conflict (they say the state sent it), that's two; if it were as you suggest, the Cossacks would not be able to take part in the same Transnistria (remember the then policy of official Russia), that's three.
Naturally, the state should have a lever of influence over the Cossacks in order to exclude impunity for the situation you described. Why not the situation itself? Because there is such a thing as "human factor", and situations can be different, but ...
In short, as I see it:
1. The Cossacks should be of several types (types). For example - a) registered (actually operating military units, with all the consequences), which are supported by the state; b) stanitsa - settling in "cheerful" territories (as you suggested), performing the function of territorial defense troops, which are actually self-sufficient; c) urban (consisting of residents of cities used by the state in peacetime, as a strengthening of the Ministry of Internal Affairs / Ministry of Emergencies, ideological work with the population, especially with young people; in the military as a mob reserve for the Cossack troops), state support - payments / bonuses for specific work performed (duty / patrol, liquidation of the consequences of disasters, participation in the operations of the Internal Troops / Ministry of Internal Affairs / Ministry of Emergencies), special equipment and ammunition are also at the expense of the state; d) "Presidential" (well, or another name - it doesn't matter), in fact, these are the very "mummers", but they can also be useful - participation in solemn events (guard of honor, etc.), accompaniment VIP persons, in short, they will have to do what they like most - to show off in front of the public (this kind of may not be mandatory); e) Seches (another name is also possible) - in any case, the Cossacks will need training camps, training grounds, etc. In this case, "Sich" will be at the same time actually a military (in the sense of a Cossack) base, a fortified area, a training ground, a training camp, a place of residence, a place for storing ATV, and so on. The most expedient, I think, to locate such bases on the most dangerous sections of the border (border with China, the Caucasus, possibly the Caspian Sea, etc.). It is there that heavy weapons should be stored, where it will be most expedient to undergo initial military training, and all kinds of advanced training courses. It is from there that it is most expedient to send "Artels" - in fact, working groups (as in PMCs). On the territory of such bases (slashes?), OWN legislation, OWN judicial and executive system must operate.

A mandatory occurrence in the Cossacks should be an oath to the people (for all, without fail), to the President (optional) - if you refuse to take the second oath (well, for example, you do not like this President), then you are temporarily excluded from the Cossacks (until next inauguration), of course, with the loss of all the statuses and bonuses that were before that. In short - you become an ordinary citizen.

You can write more and more, as you see, there are enough problems and questions (however, as well as options for solving them).

A big request to the forum users - do not throw poop, criticize on the merits.
Maybe I’ll be able to get it soon, and I’ll write an article on this topic (Especially for HE), but for now, I would like to hear your opinions.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Hans Grohman

then it will not be quite Cossacks this time

so it may not be attached to the Cossacks, we need similar formations and we need to create them as we need (sorry for the cambour), and not just the Cossacks, because we are kind of used to it

[ytqnhfk]

Regarding the freemen! - There will be forces and people directing these Cossacks against us, and then what? As a result, we will get a self-governing "bandit formation" subordinate to anyone with a varnish on top in the form of the word Cossack! Well, how will you continue to influence this freeman?

[Hans grohman]

Dear ytqnhfk, I asked not to throw poop, but to criticize on the merits.
What do you mean by "freemen"?

Quote: ytqnhfk

There will be forces and people guiding these Cossacks against us, and then what?

Under such an aegis, the army can be disbanded, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the Ministry of Emergency Situations, but what if "there are people." The methods of influence and guarantees of the security of both the authorities and society from the "Cossack freemen", I describe in the article that I am writing now, especially for VO.

[ytqnhfk]

All the structures you have listed have a vertical of power, did you write an element of free-will and about the loss of the same free-rein, so what are your claims to me? And basically speaking, I fundamentally asked what would happen to such a unit? If you give so much power without any state administration?

[Hans grohman]

neutral, let’s wait for my article - presumably tonight. There, in comments, we will discuss everything.

[wasjasibirjac]

Cossack training system began in the family, then in the village. Cossacks were a PRIVILEGED MILITARY class.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

from here morality, Cossacks in the Russian Federation NO ?!

[ytqnhfk]

Fork fight there, first of all, men defended their land and families and then the Cossacks! Just so they would come it would be a laugh, and so there is some kind of status!

[opium21]

you have a respected presentation of Cossacks about us as something not earthly, and we will start and pass not 10-15 but for those who are against us and our homeland, we Cossacks are real living people living from the Kuban to Kamchatka from historical times who served in the protection service and the defense of the fatherland and how the Jews feared the Cossacks, it is known as the Jewish Leninist clique that destroyed the Cossacks, so you don’t be a guy, but we are men. If you know the difference, then wipe yourself peacefully and never catch the Cossacks

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

First, the Motherland is written with a capital letter (you can make as many typos and spelling errors as you like, but it should be in the blood)

Quote: opium21

we will start and drive not 10-15 m

I'm afraid that 10-15 will not pass

Quote: opium21

so the guy does not bzdi you are a man and we are men if you know the difference then wipe yourself sit peacefully and never catch the Cossacks

I am respected come from a Cossack family, my pradet was among the founders of the "faithful" fort, I don't see the point of listening to your rudeness. Why are you in what "army" are you?

[opium21]

maybe you, from a Cossack family, just don’t see a Cossack in you about spelling, don’t tell me about yourself a retired participant in more than one conflict both on the territory of the Russian Federation and abroad and Fort Verny is the current Alma-Ata, but I live in the Kuban as my ancestors came from Zaporozhye st. Plastunovskaya that is, a plastun in the Cossack’s so wipe off the descendant of the founders of Fort Verny

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

cape you on "you"?
I won’t do anything
you never answered which Cossack army belong and what is your Cossack rank?
but somehow I don’t need to wipe myself, I eat my face gently and regularly

[opium21]

I don’t belong to the Cossacks as a registered Cossack, I don’t need to register there by type of Cossack, and my rank if I transfer to the Cossack registry — I didn’t put the author according to the MORF-major, I figured out about my author, but where did you read the 21 opium from? this is normal among men and you can contact me on you contact man I allow

[Hans grohman]

Let me say about this:

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I am respected come from a Cossack family, my pradet was among the founders of the "faithful" fort,

Rod is, of course, good, but far from the main thing. A Cossack is more a state of mind, a willingness to defend one’s Motherland at any moment, and if necessary, without hesitation, give life for it. (Maybe a little pathetic, but I really think so). So, Vladimir, I think that the Cossack is not a dog to measure the pedigree.

Yes, it dragged on with the promised article - faith didn’t have time, I think I'll post it in the week.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

yes, no one here and does not measure, it was the word about "men", the one to whom I think I understood
otherwise you wrote this NORMAL state of ANY person who loves his homeland, and the Cossacks are, in addition to everything described, something else

[Victor]

Vasilenko Vladimir There are a lot of us Cossacks both in the armed forces and in the status of reserve officers and other categories of mobile reserve. Separate units of the Airborne Forces and other types and arms are equipped with Cossack recruits. The question of working with modern technology is not at all worth it. The question is only about the state decision on the status of Cossack troops.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Victor

There are a lot of us Cossacks both in the armed forces and in the status of reserve officers and other categories of mobile reserve.

you yourself just said that there are no Cossacks, Cossacks are a military class who do certain service, not in the Airborne Forces, not in the Marine Corps, not in the Navy, but SPECIALIZED MILITIES CARRYING OUT THE ROLE FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE COUNTRY'S COUNTRY.
it was in this form that the Cossacks formed at one time, but as long as it was formed in a stasis manner, it absorbed all the negative forms of this spontaneity.
On the seglodnya, the right estate needs to be created from scratch and sculpted what is needed and not like in songs "from what it was"

Quote: Victor

The question of working with modern technology is not at all

it’s worth it and it’s acute, if you personally, as an officer (acting or reserve), master the technique, this does not mean that EVERYONE knows this and knows how

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Viktor Forgot to add the Ministry of Internal Affairs, so tell us from behind whose Chechens were shot at by Cossacks in Zelenokumsk, by chance those policemen are not Cossacks, they are not local, against whom criminal proceedings were instituted, than this whole story
is over ????
opium21 And you are a respected, kind of like a policeman, so "punch" why the police defended the Chechens who tried to rape the girl so much, find those scum from behind whose backs our guys were shooting, ask them as a Cossack Cossack who gave them such an order (if not difficult). And if it is still difficult, then I will not be surprised

[opium21]

Ivanov’s tobacco why such confidence about the Ministry of Internal Affairs I’ll see you everywhere they seem to see a ass ass to the Ministry of Internal Affairs never had though I know many and respect not that you were a jackal and opium21 is my call sign from service in the 84 DRA so the jackal is small come on and you’re looking for the poor, it turns out that you go to a psychiatrist with a persecution mania by all indications you are a schizophrenic and you urgently need isolation from society so that you do not stink at large and there the good nurses will correct your health

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: serge

on Bolotnaya Square

and I represent them in Kushchevskaya

[desava]

Vladimir, Krasnodar Territory?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Yes
(damn why you can’t just be true yes, they’ll definitely inform you that the comment is small)

[desava]

So zema))) I'm from Taman. A dad from Semenovka - Kushchevsky district))

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Well, and how gentlemen the Cossacks did you allow bandits of peaceful people to be cut there ?!

[desava]

Well, this question is somewhat at the wrong address. Father a long time ago from childhood (he is now 70) does not live there, and I have never even been. By the way, I have never been a member of Cossack society. My opinion about him (meaning in our time) coincides with yours.

[opium21]

eh, they assigned you a rank to learn, you try to read literacy, and you write the word x ... with three mistakes, and I look at the tobaccos beside you, a Jew Sava Ivanov appeared. Well, sharkhan and a jackal of tobacco you should go to the north and Israel

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

but where is it time for you, then you will answer me "Cossack" why did the Cossacks in Kushchevskaya allow them to rape their women and how they stood like rams and waited as their bandits cut them one by one ?!

[opium21]

you dear, don’t confuse God's gift with the scrambled eggs, it’s not so simple there, since there were disassemblies between the local people and how they don’t know there because I didn’t live there and because of a couple of sykuns it’s not worth mocking at the Cossacks if, as you explain, you have nothing to do with the Cossacks, and you have big problems with literacy, not only in the Russian language but also in general education, it’s a dark forest for you because you don’t know not only the latest history, but also the history of the Russian state in general and why you oppose the Cossack against how people are bursting out or we are no longer Russian people, I understand your rise - breathing tobacco, he is a Jew and even a drug addict it seems to him all around, but since your comments say you have a positive balance on the site, I believe that a person who thinks earlier I often rated your comments positively, but unlike som, I don’t sit on the Internet every day, because it’s a lot of work now the weather has given a weekend, so don’t spoil people’s opinions about yourself due to its short-sightedness and drive tobacco away from you since it’s been determined by his comments in life

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

opium21 So if you do not know (MY HUT FROM THE EDGE) then calm down and do not argue with people who express their opinion !!

[opium21]

here you poked tobaccos if you were dumb then I explain how they guarded each other and turned around in their cube their business I live in St Plastunovskaya and we have order to Kushchevskaya from me 170 km like that and also you have a question from the henchmen it came from you are not mentally normal, but in general for the future of such jackals I will categorically ignore you because you are not worthy to talk to rubbing paper with you, they don’t talk, they crumple it and they use your place in the urn

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Quote: opium21

since you are not worthy to communicate with you

Understand!! Blue blood means !! ?? We saw such people !! Okay calm down "Kipling" from the village of Plastunovskaya !!))) And what kind of drugs did you list, where did you get knowledge, Sklifasovsky !!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: opium21

you dear, don’t confuse God's gift with the scrambled eggs, it’s not so simple there, because the disassembly was between the locals and I don’t know how it was because I didn’t live there and because of a couple of sykuns it’s not worth mocking at the Cossacks if you explain that you have nothing to do with Cossacks, and you have big problems with literacy, not only in the Russian language, but also in general education

everything is clear and local is clearly not local, the local chieftain spoke about this, then what you (and not you) are not comfortable with in my knowledge of history, let's discuss

Quote: opium21

why do you oppose the Cossacks against how erupting people

what are you talking about? (I guess I guess, but to answer you need confidence)

Quote: opium21

but unlike sack, I don’t sit every day on the Internet because it’s a lot of work now the weather has given a weekend so don’t spoil people’s opinion about yourself because

Yes, and somehow I’m not sitting idle, it’s just that my schedule is not supported, I started at 6 in the morning and finished at 10 in the evening, I can look at the news for 5-10 minutes, talk to forums or a book there, I’ll answer you, I’ll go to lay hay.
about spoiling or not spoiling the opinion of myself, I express my thoughts (while you chop wood or hay you put them a lot in your head accumulates) and if someone doesn’t like them, well, perhaps, but it’s possible that you are wrong, and I don’t allow of this

[opium21]

I agree to a discussion or argument as I like more, but I didn’t like your obstinacy on the exclusion of the Cossacks from the people and the negative statement about the Cossacks. I don’t like much in modern Cossacks because during the period of organization of the troops many rushed to sign up, although they had nothing to do with the Cossacks besides, many anti-social elements from criminals to alcoholics and drug addicts who saw the Cossacks as a cover for their negativity joined the structure of Cossacks. he entered not vigorously from the societies of troops that existed in the Kuban many of which really discredit the Cossacks not only by their deeds but also by their appearance (sloppy sloppy drunk in the nozzle and ambition arbiter) and nose and give obsykayutsya. And the Cossacks, as residents of the Krasnodar Territory, are excellent representatives in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB, which is a lot of things done by the Cossacks by type during the wars from antiquity to the present, so I also didn’t like being in tandem with 555 which I have been watching for a long time On the site, the person is really paranoid and attached to you like sticking

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: opium21

your obstinacy on the exclusion of the Cossacks from the people

what is the rejection, I clearly explained my position, such a military estate (it doesn’t matter if it will be Kazachest or not) is necessary for Russia.
turning a blind eye to the negative experience during the formation of the Cossacks is stupid, do not step on the rake twice

Quote: opium21

the period of the organization of the army, many rushed to record, although they had nothing to do with the Cossacks

the Cossacks have never been a closed caste, and it’s not clear what you didn’t like about it, if a person is ready to stand up for ALL life to defend and support the country, which’s reprehensible

Quote: opium21

that’s why I didn’t enter from the military societies of the troops that existed in the Kuban many of which really discredit the Cossacks not only with their deeds but also with their appearance (sloppy sloppy drunk in the snot and with the ambition of the arbiter), and you’ll give your nose a chance. And the Cossacks as residents of the Krasnodar Territory are excellent representatives in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB

this is the most important thing, namely, that in the Russian Federation there are NO Cossacks estates, there are people descendants of the Cossacks bearing certain everyday and mental traditions of the once existing estate, you are not a Cossack personally, you are not a member of the army, you are not bearing the corresponding military duty, etc. d. etc.
Cossacks should not serve in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not in the FSB, not in the construction battalion, not in aviation, they should serve in the appropriate kind of troops, which for today is NOT

I’m just advocating the creation of just such an estate that will carry out military duty constantly combining it with the conduct of its own or social economy, this estate cannot be a reserve, since then it will not be different from everyone else. This is not a reserve. This is a coffin service. of life

Quote: opium21

and I also didn’t like being in tandem with 555 of which I have been watching for a long time on the site a man who is really paranoid and attached to you as he stuck

I am not a member of the tandem; I express my thought which by the way has been spinning in my head for a very long time and over which I have been thinking and thinking for a very long time

[opium21]

that's exactly the fact that people for whom the Cossacks were a cover and also a way to get land, this does not suit me, and the created Cossack units have long been part of the Ministry of Defense where conscripts serve in the direction of the Cossack society. Military service, as you called, I have already carried 25 years, so with this order. And in what form do you imagine the structure of the Cossack military unit to which types of troops do you refer to now, separate units are being formed from the Cossacks in the Ministry of Defense and there are them in all types of ground forces that allow them to be created except for high-tech (air defense aviation of the Strategic Missile Forces) where specialization is required and even there the representatives of the Cossacks serve, or whether I am a member of a cook or an army, I don't care about a Cossack by blood and family, and the postscript to something does not mean that he is now a Cossack even in the old vemen of the newcomers to the Cossacks, it was not immediately necessary to prove that you were Worthy of this and not a wish to enter Yes, even about the tandem, you may not even notice, but the tobacco next to each of your comments, I do not pay attention to him because he is not even just a mumble. For you do not be offended, I used to communicate so openly in Russia, you said to the enemy "I'm going to YOU" and about tobacco, I compare you with a tiger - a sober-thinking person

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Quote: opium21

I compare you with a tiger - a sober person reasoning

Licking smart girl !!!!! Eulogize like a Papuan, eloquently. Petya stop !!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

this is the whole problem, that today's Cossacks are a booth and a farce, as if it weren’t offensive to anyone

Quote: opium21

And in what form do you present the structure of the Cossack military unit to which types of troops are attributed, separate units are now formed from the Cossacks in the Ministry of Defense, and they are in all pods of the ground forces that allow them to be created except for high-tech (air defense missile forces) And you can also talk about the tandem you don’t notice but the tobacco near your every comment I don’t pay attention to him because he’s not even a troll just mumble

rather, it is a cross between border guards and rapid reaction units, since it is necessary to settle the Cossacks precisely along the borders of the Empire and in peacetime their main duty should be to control outside the borders and to prevent illegal traffic through them, at the same time, in the event of a real conflict, they can get up in the shortest lines " under arms "to repel aggression and contain onna for the period of mobilization, on the border with the ROK and SA, I would give them light aviation, otherwise it is impossible to control the steppe, and on the coast, accordingly, combat boats and, most importantly, never load police functions on them in any form, whether we like it or not, but unfortunately not always deservedly the police or the militia are not liked as much as we like, and, accordingly, this non-love will be transferred to the Cossacks.
An obligatory condition should be the Melskoye way of life, first of all, only today it is possible to create conditions for teaching young people, not dividing them into Cossacks and the rest, since only children from village villages and villages will study in schools, such a feint will not work in the city, and only land can be created for normal spiritual education in the september, everyone will always be together and under supervision, children from small years will be on the farm and not in night clubs, and military science in the family is easier to grasp from the cradle.
The main thing is that you can’t do without strong state support because everything is very interconnected and the development of forms by designers in this whole thing is not the most important thing, before the parades even like the moon with cancer

[opium21]

in general, all settlements in the Kuban are called villages and the difference between the village and the village was only in the fact that there were commercial structures and other public institutions in the village and they were banned in the village as a military settlement and the villages were much larger than the villages they have now grown into in large regional centers, so that we don’t need to persecute anywhere and don’t have to carry out military duty to be always ready, so it’s not easy to be stingy, there aren’t any people under the Tsar legiyami in contrast to the rest of the population where there was no serfdom, the land was in the possession of the community and did not pay taxes Cossacks and how will the state thanked for the Cossack performance of duty as a think

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

in my understanding, there should be help in housekeeping, thoughts are spinning a couple of oaks a dump, they can finally take shape, one thing is clear that for the period of the host's service the family should not suffer, there should be help and equipment and fuel and everything else if required.
exactly one class should live on Earth, there should not be any options with "urban" Cossacks, otherwise in 2-3 generations everything will turn into shit

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Quote: opium21

are excellent representatives in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB

THIS IS NOT THOSE FROM WHICH BACKS WHICH IN ZELENOKUMSK FIRED AT THE COSSACKS ??? PETRUSHKA WHAT ARE YOU DRIPPING ON A MAN'S BRAIN LIKE A BABA, THINK, PROVOCATOR, YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AGAINST COMMUNISTS, (AND MAYOR himself) THEN YOU ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR YOU, THERE ARE NOT SUITABLE "LET'S ROUND OUT !! ??

Quote: opium21

but I didn’t like your obstinacy

Quote: opium21

and I didn’t like being there

You are the holes of the yak TsATSA !!!!!

[alatau_09]

KAZAK - sounds proudly!
Congratulations to the Cossacks of Russia, this is a high confidence!

[J_silver]

Here you, "foreigner", such a clown in self-made crosses and stripes with a whip along the ridge will be pulled out for no reason, no reason - let's see what you sing!

[alatau_09]

What, a piece of silver, ached the causal place? The lack of education and the language must be treated with a whip, if not yet hopeless ... and say: "Fedya must be, must" ...

[J_silver]

To me something - I am Russian, as much as possible, but to you. foreigners, we should beware, and not climb with congratulations ...

[alatau_09]

That's it, that's why you should be flogged so as not to disgrace your ...

[J_silver]

They will screw you - have they really not understood?
Me for what? I am mine, and I have not dishonored and disgraced anyone, and you are strangers, albeit simply in physiognomy!
I don’t like it at all. when someone unauthorizedly flogs someone ...

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

And let's see who these "borscht" will bludgeon.))))

[opium21]

of course the Jews will save Russia

[opium21]

correctly let the foreigners live in their places of settledness, otherwise the commissars communists gave them free rein to do silver in Russia, the word foreigner meant Jew Jew-Jew revolutionist from birth-commissar = enemies of Russia and their Cossacks smacked a little tsar father regretted circumcised now they are on the square yes Zuckerman Avenue are torn

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Are you by any chance not from Lviv ?!

Quote: opium21

Jewish revolutionary by birth-Komisar = enemies of Russia and their Cossacks smacked a little

but don’t tell me where were the Cossacks in the period between the fall of 17 and the fall of 18, this is by the way about flogging, by the way about the commissars, such a name Budyonny does not say anything, not revolutionary

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

comrade opium you do not minus you answer

[opium21]

By the way, I never put any disadvantages to anyone in principle, but I can positively note that many insurients are simply fooling around with pirate shoulder straps, but I like it when they are in a row and the Cossacks fought to defend the state. It’s a pity that the tsar didn’t dare to take a tough attitude towards revolutionary trash but they would mercifully knock them out at that time, look, and now they would live in peace would not be their rotten offspring who are currently continuing a permanent revolution and my ancestors would not suffer from storytelling and would not die of hunger a descendant from the fort as your grandfather was talking ottsets Cossack Cossack son well, you're on the go .............. dog

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

if you sprayed the monitor less with saliva, you probably would have seen that almost all, with rare exceptions, agree that formations like the Cossacks are not just necessary, but one of Russia's survival institutions, most spoke out against the booth that exists today, when the Cossacks are not able to defend themselves, not to mention some public entities

Quote: opium21

from birth, commissar = enemies of Russia and their Cossacks smacked a little

judging by the fact that you are writing from Russia, your ancestors nevertheless made a deal with those same commissars, otherwise you would have written from "the city of Paris"

[opium21]

my father is one of the participants in the revival of the Cossacks in the Kuban in 90, along with Gromov, so then before the law on the Cossacks it was restored as a cultural-historical society, but our politicians could not wait to involve the Cossacks in politics and pull over to their side that shit the confusion among the Cossacks is understandable, but I don’t have the blood to leave my relatives and my great-grandfather died at the hands of the Jews — a good deal, one paternal grandfather started the war in Brest, the second maternal gentleman of the 2 Order of Glory and you with tobacco in Paris apparently you want it unbearable and the tobacco will soon be in the EU because he is good from Bendery you have a co-author

[opium21]

and the principle that a Jew from birth was a revolutionary; the Jews themselves came up with it, and the commissioners were people of this particular nationality, though they hid their origin behind the pseudonyms such as Kamenev Sverdlov, Ivanov Zinoviev Trotsky, etc. so these pseudonyms stuck tightly to them that later they began to be used as surnames; later, Jews trying to hide their true origin under Stalin, too, the pseudonym changed surnames mainly coming from Russian names of Peter Nikolayev and even such appeared as truths komisarov consuls

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

ATSKY PETA !!!

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

opium21 We had a promotion day without a mat!

- This completely paralyzed the work of all car services
- All loading and unloading operations are stalled
- Hockey players did not understand the coach on the installation before the match
- The local Trudovik died on inhalation
- And ordinary residents did not know what to answer the elementary question "where?"
Calm down and grin

[alatau_09]

When they have CONFIDENCE and BELIEVE, then it REQUIRES a normal person to be ABOVE, or at least justify the CONFIDENCE ...
if not normal - to the maximum use of confidence for your mercantile purposes, because he knows there will be no other case ...
We must trust and trust in our neighbor, otherwise we do not live in that society and we are to blame for building it ourselves ... we won’t be able to wash our hands ...

[Marat]

In vain Alatau you get involved in discussions with subpendosniki and Natsik - maybe it is better to ignore? although of course it’s a business

And I support your comment 100% and join the congratulations to the Russian Cossacks. Russians really need to revive the national spirit at least in part (even among the Cossacks) then there will be less problems with the Caucasus

Cossacks, of course, are not enemies of the peoples of Russia - on the contrary, support is help and protection - the example is the same Ossetia with Abkhazia or our Kazakhstan

Help for site readers

Cossacks and the Russian governor general helped to protect our city and region in the 19th century from the invasion of the Khivans-Kokandans (armed with the latest English weapons and having English advisers - the Kazakh militia led by Khan Syuntelek could not cope then)

Cossack associations in Kazakhstan in us enjoy the support of both the people and the government - our president N.A. Nazarbayev deservedly received the title of Honorary Ataman

".... September 27. Kazakhstan Today. President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev was awarded the title of" Honorary Ataman "at a large Cossack circle held on Sunday in Astana, the republican Slavic movement" Lad "told the agency.


"I think it will be good, kind support and great respect for all of us to the Kazakh people, personally to the president of the republic. Because never in the thousand-year history of the Cossacks, neither a Muslim nor a Kazakh was the supreme ataman," said the chairman of the coordination council of Russians, Slavic and Cossack Organizations of Kazakhstan Yuri Zakharov at the First All-Kazakhstan Congress of the Union of Cossack Public Associations.

[J_silver]

And this is KAZAKI? Licking fucking ....
No honor, no pride - prostitutes are disguised ...

[ytqnhfk]

Do you see a lot of these tall ones now? They often sell for a dollar! No, let them go with lashes, but no weapons are needed! Previously, the Cossacks could whomever you want to hit with a whip even if you said something against it! Yes, I don’t want a lot of things further on this subject. They had enough bastards as everywhere else at all times! I am against this !!!!!!!!!

[VadimSt]

Quote: serge

So you can imagine the Cossacks on Bolotnaya Square. And the "liberals" fled in fear ...

+1
The state is not only the rule of law for everyone, but also peace for most citizens.

[Kaetani]

There are de facto Cossack units for a long time. From the 90's.
Leaving for the army, he was supposed to go to the Cossack unit, but at the assembly point, a lieutenant colonel from my future unit bribed me by saying that the unit to which he called out constantly went on business trips, and given the fact that he was the intelligence chief of the regiment, I could not refuse him .
Later, by the end of the KMB, a request came from me from the Cossack unit - but the battalion was preparing to go to the area of ​​performance of military-combat missions and I remained.

[ytqnhfk]

Are you sorry? what did you decide then?

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Cossacks will come to the aid of power structures and the state.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO WILL COME TO HELP !! ?? ANOTHER WARM PLACE FOR REFEREES, ANOTHER OPG !! ?? GARBAGE HAS BEEN SOLD OUT IN ITS USELESS !!? ANOTHER FEMALE STORE !!? SO THE POWER OF THE LAST PATRIOTS IS LOST IN THESE CONVULSIONS, THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END, IT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END, IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ANOTHER ONE STRUCTURE ON THE HUMP OF SITTING !!!

[Gurza]

And the people who come to the aid !! ??

We have Cossacks patrolling the city, where they should be scolded by young people so that they don’t swear, they don’t drink beer and drive in the spirit of patriotism, they again put things in order.

ONE MORE WARM PLACE FOR REMAINERS, ONE MORE OPG !! ??

When did our retirees have warm places ??? Mind ??? They, in my opinion and after retirement, work and / or serve.
Do you know what annoys me about our people?!?!? It's that when on city holidays, dancing lezginka all the Armenians stand watching applaud. And when the Cossack choir comes out, our people giggle stupidly and are skeptical !! Why?! I don’t understand ?! Why are we ashamed ?! It's time to change !! There is nothing shameful in respecting your history and your national outfits, your traditions !! And if they laugh, or even more so they say something! So you have to beat in the face !!! Immediately !! Immediately!! Why should we respect "small nations", but no one should respect us!?!?!?!?
And go in for sports !!

[TRex]

So I say - we need a state policy aimed at the full support of the titular people, and not of any newcomer rabble ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

we need a policy aimed at educating people in the spirits of love for the Motherland and it doesn’t matter whether you are Chukchi or Russian, Novodvorskaya won de Russian, but somehow you don’t want to support it

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Without the titular people, Russia will not exist for long.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

no one argues with this

[opium21]

is it you tobaccos you mean your Jewish family who now steers well, well, the flea has lived without you in Russia for thousands of years and we’ll still live

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

FFUUHH !!! Without whom did you live in multinational Russia ?? !! You are wrong as always

[predator]

KUSHANIAN COSSACKS also patrolled in Kushchevka!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

True, they stated that there were a lot of bandits because they could not defend their women, well, why the hell they are needed if they can’t defend themselves, give them enemy weapons, they will take them away and they will send them to us

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Duc of garbage Tsapkov "covered", who will rock the boat !! ?? They have all the powers, so they bent the men. Those who rebelled were imprisoned.

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

In the Kuban and Stvvropol'e, almost everyone has already been "taught" not to perform at the "chock"

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Personally, I like Cossack songs and dances. But if they defend themselves for the Cossacks (Russians) in this way, the Russian garbage will bind you (Sagra), they are on the side of the national minorities because they have money. What does sport have to do with it?

[opium21]

Gyurza at Ivanoah is another national costume and the songs aren’t ours; he is why he has hatred for the whole army of the FSB police and the Cossacks at the genetic level, read his comments on other articles

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

And you do not "protect" drug dealers and the gaming business, and for your own personal purposes, do not collect information about your opponents through the channels of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Many of you have become enemies of your own people. Be ashamed a little !! And then your "snitches" with their own hands will crush you like nits

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Parsley does not weed people against each other, not the same Cossack)))

[Tyumen]

Oh, these paramilitary units ... And even with the ability * to create security structures *. So nowhere to spit, you will not get into the cop, so into the guard. Without strict control, these free-lovers can become big hemorrhoids.

[Zmeyuga]

+1000000
They will also force Muslims to be baptized - Russophile's dream)

[TRex]

Andryukha! This is not very good for me either ... A unified structure and control of these "troops", in my opinion, is absent. In the army, order must first be established and then all these social formations must be tied to the mob reserve. (like a "national guard", or what?). And not from the words of some assistant, but on a legal basis.
I’ll take a look at them: they’re all different, in crosses, medals, and most importantly - everywhere, both in Chukotka and in Yamal ...
We need a normal law on Cossacks. Under the kings, they kept the borders of the state, developed new territories, etc., for which they had certain privileges from the sovereign. And here the question is about protecting bureaucrats ... creating security companies ... too small ...

[Tyumen]

I also wanted to call it the likeness of the national guard, but I remembered that the Cossacks were 500 years older.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

however, this "guard" gave the oath to the Turks, then to the pshek to the Russian tsars when it was profitable, and in the intervals robbed everything that was bad

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I bring to those who minus the real historical fact, Bohdan Khmelnitsky - When Vladislav IV came to the Polish throne and the war of the Commonwealth with Russia began, Khmelnitsky fought against the Russian troops

In the war of France with Spain (1644–1646), he, with more than two thousand detachments of Cossacks, took part in the siege of the fortress Dunkirk

the fight against Polsha began solely due to litigation
Khmelnitsky began allied negotiations against the Poles with the Crimean Khan Islam III Girey, who gave an evasive answer - without formally declaring war on Poland, the Khan ordered the Perekop Murza Tugai Bey to speak with Khmelnitsky
In December 1648, he wrote a loyal letter to the Russian Tsar, immediately wrote a similar message to King Jan Casimir, with approximately the same content, assurances of fidelity, humility and Vasity, letters were written to both the Crimean Khan and the Turkish Sultan

[smoke]

Let's not confuse Vladimir - time and Cossacks of different Troops (departments)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you can take later how the Cossacks acted in 1612 and 1917, not nearly better in relation to Russia

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

First you need to clearly define what they are needed for, if border protection, then they should settle in the appropriate places, if the reserve is what we have, and so half of the country is in reserve

[Samsebenaum]

I like this news ...
But this decision will be effective only on condition that the Cossacks strictly and sacredly preserve and observe their traditions, laws and customs. Why did some people decide that this is a "warm place" for retirees? If you are full of strength, then let them educate and share their experience with young people, create military-patriotic schools.

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Yes, no one will work with the guys, they will go to the businessmen to guard the sausage factories (check bags). Until now, it is audible that someone would be engaged in boys !?

[stalker]

There were organized crime groups - private security companies and "Cossacks" (This is not true for true, not mummers, Cossacks)

[J_silver]

What hangover did they take it from?
If you want to protect the order - welcome to the miles ... sorry, to the police, if you want to protect your homeland - welcome to the army!
And to arm some clowns mummers - well, I'm sorry, I do not agree! Then I was the first in line for weapons, despite a fundamental objection to the arming of the population - to defend ourselves against such uninvited defenders ...

[Ascetic]

Somehow I walk along the street mumbled Cossacks in stripes do not let anyone in. I’m watching a motorcade taxiing out of the alley. And in the Lexus in the back seat, the Jew-oligarch fell apart with three chins. Here you and the Cossacks who are guarding. If they can have weapons, why not allow the retirees of the army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs? There will be much more order on the streets.

[smoke]

it’s most likely a policy, in some places sometime suddenly it is urgently necessary to save the brotherly people (officially it’s impossible), and here there are volunteers (paramilitary-military formations) Cossacks, private armies in the west, and we have Cossacks!

My relative in the Children's Art School was on the list of the Cossacks, I was on the oath - the Cossacks stood slightly behind the officers taking the oath. now I think they will take it themselves (it’s interesting about the text of the oath) and after the company commanders rewrote someone from the Cossacks — and a little later they offered all of them a contract, as I understand it, there were no refusals. Bad or good, time will tell.

Yes, to the first paragraph - the Kuban army is also located in Abkhazia, and the Donskoy includes some of the regions of Ukraine and here you are ..........

[dred]

Cool in one word. Only one thing is not clear is the Cossacks, what is it like Islamic guards in Iran?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

mare
it's time to clearly and distinctly say the Cossacks as estates in the Russian Federation NO, that booth that exists, except it can not be called a booth (Kushchevskaya showed it well).
Cossacks it was a style and way of life, except for togts it is necessary to end with the Cossacks idyalization in the history of Russia, these formations were originally created as a freemen who did not obey anyone and, in principle, behaved in such a way that they were critical for Russia, that during the period of unrest in 1612, which in the period 1917 they were sitting until their own roasted cock pecked.

A similar caste for Russia (based on its territory) is vitally necessary, but it must be created wisely and certainly not as an anarchist freemen, wandering, either in hats, or in the form of the tsar’s army with no brass crosses and the same checkers (on which they need is not clear)
it is necessary to take the experience of the Ottoman Empire with their janissaries or Egypt with their Mamelukes as a base, provided that there is no abundance in the homeless children in today's Russia

settlements should be located along the borders of the Russian Federation, they should serve in the army regularly on a rational basis throughout their lives, they should be given not only the right to find weapons, but also the right to use them to protect the honor, life and property of Russian citizens, in case of death outcomes of such use do not prosecute them

[opium21]

the Cossacks were never a caste — it was an estate that had duties to the state for privileges in the forefront to defend their homeland and serve, providing themselves with weapons and ammunition for their

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Cool, just like in tsarist Russia, this is not the right thing the Cossacks should again become an example of courage and patriotism, and not shit as it is now. So with both hands for the EMPIRE reborn. Moreover, the neighbors of the Cossacks were Russian and Tatars and Circassians and Ukrainians. So much for the unification and the carrier of intra-Russian and internationalism and the friendship of peoples.

[Kaetani]

Vasilenko Vladimir and Alexey Prikazchikov agree with you!

Prior to military service in the early 90's, he entered the Cossack army with similar representations. In fact, it turned out a private security company. A definite plus is a trip to the Trinity-Sergius Lavra and the blessing of the Patriarch. After serving in the army, this issue did not return. My opinion is that the Cossacks should be on the borders of their homeland. With the return of respect and reverence for their military work for the good of the Motherland.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kaetani

My opinion is that the Cossacks should be on the borders of their homeland. With the return of respect and reverence for their military work for the good of the Motherland.

The state should play an important role here, since today the families are not as large as in the period of Iperia, when the uchord to the service of one of the men did not affect the economy much, the State is obliged to take care of supporting the economy of the "Cossack" during the period of cooling off the next service , at the same time, the "Cossack" must be spatb with a gun under the pillow and know that at any moment he can be pulled off

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

for starters, I would recreate similar military castes in Karelia (based on the current behavior of the fiones), in the Kaliningrad region, the North Caucasus, the Far East and on the border with Kazakhstan (there is smuggling rushing so no one can handle)

and to the Far East, in general, under this sauce, those Serbs who had requested Russian citizenship would be transferred (representatives of this caste are not entitled to dual citizenship with an obligatory condition)

[Schildpatt]

Check out the Tyntsy:

At first, there were no “Cossacks”.
And all the other “Cossacks” were just ordinary Soviet people.
Exactly, mind you, the same as their mothers and fathers.
They were no different from the rest of the population, either religiously, ethnically, or traditionally.
Then it became possible, and a handful of idiots immediately decided (herself? Rosenbaum?) That they were not just, but “Cossacks”.
Moreover, what is a “Cossack” - none of the idiots could answer. It cannot and still.
But this did not stop the idiots from gaining their Identity - and somehow they became Cossacks.
“Steel” - understand? Not born, but "steel." Sharp. You were born, you know, Soviet people, lived like Soviet people for a long time - and then one day BECAME “Cossacks”.
Although the hedgehog is clear that “becoming” in this sense can only be a clown.
Well, okay - they have become so steel, a person cannot be forbidden to live as a clown.
For a long time, the clans were just having fun with costume games.
Then the clans were officially called the “historical community”.
Then a handful of clowns were given a place in the legal field.
Then partially built into the state apparatus.
And now the bazaar is about the Budget Line and the distribution of the CLAW WEAPONS to the clans.
And indeed - why not give clowning associations the opportunity to have military weapons.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: schildpatt

They were no different from the rest of the population, either religiously, ethnically, or traditionally.

well, for the sake of truth, it was precisely for the Cossacks that they became and could become ANY anyone who accepted certain conditions

[olegyurjewitch]

WELL IT'S YOU ARE WRONG. MY GRANDFATHER IS A DON'S COSSACK, GRANDMA IS NOT A COSSACK FROM THE PEASANTS. IN THEIR LIFE, THE COUNTRY'S WAY FEELED IN EVERYTHING, STARTING WITH THE EQUIPMENT OF THE HOUSE AND LIFE. FROM CHILDHOOD AND ALWAYS LIVE IN ME THE SKILLS THAT MY GRANDFATHER INSULATED IN ME. NUMEROUS RELATIVES LIVE IN MOROZOVSK AND THEY READ THE TRADITIONS OF THEIR ANCESTORS OF THE DONTS, WITHOUT FORGETTING TO INOCULATE THEM TO THE GROWING GENERATION. AND SO IN MOST FAMILIES WITH REAL COSSACK ROOTS. SO THAT DO NOT HAVE TO HANG THE CLOWN LABEL ON EVERYONE. BTW, IS NOT LITERACY A TREND FOR THE SHILDPATTS?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I already wrote that not all, but their minority, and the meaning of the Cossacks and in general has been lost in full, the Cossacks is not only a way of life

[Tyumen]

Quote: schildpatt

(herself? Rosenbaum?

Judging by the love of window dressing, rather Gazmanov.

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Nopea !! Babkina !!

[opium21]

at one time, Trotsky and the commissars made great efforts to destroy the Cossacks as estates, and by methods of genocide they surrounded the villages and shot all the men from young to old and hung up women, they started hunger — my great-grandfather was genocide, and you need to read a little story about it

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Calm down, you weren’t the only one who suffered during those dashing years, mine also drank grief out of ten in the family, two survived. But unlike some, I do not bow to the feet of this government, which does not respect the people very much, but also does not suit her with problems. He himself must have been a communist, but a Cossack ???

[Makhalych]

Quote: schildpatt

At first, there were no “Cossacks”.
And all the other “Cossacks” were just ordinary Soviet people.
Exactly, mind you, the same as their mothers and fathers.
They were no different from the rest of the population, either religiously, ethnically, or traditionally.
Then it became possible, and a handful of idiots immediately decided (herself? Rosenbaum?) That they were not just, but “Cossacks”.
Moreover, what is a “Cossack” - none of the idiots could answer. It cannot and still.
But this did not stop the idiots from gaining their Identity - and somehow they became Cossacks.
“Steel” - understand? Not born, but "steel." Sharp. You were born, you know, Soviet people, lived like Soviet people for a long time - and then one day BECAME “Cossacks”.
Although the hedgehog is clear that “becoming” in this sense can only be a clown.
Well, okay - they have become so steel, a person cannot be forbidden to live as a clown.
For a long time, the clans were just having fun with costume games.
Then the clans were officially called the “historical community”.
Then a handful of clowns were given a place in the legal field.
Then partially built into the state apparatus.
And now the bazaar is about the Budget Line and the distribution of the CLAW WEAPONS to the clans.
And indeed - why not give clowning associations the opportunity to have military weapons.

FIVE POINTS !!!

[thatupac]

Yes, these mumbled Cossacks have already shown themselves in full glory in Kushchevka. To scrap them. Only for parades let them stay. For fun .

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

why it’s a shame, such formations are really needed, but not for the sake of parades, but to protect the borders, the very length of the land border Russia obliges this

[thatupac]

Yes, it was all relevant before. And now - a masquerade of pure water. Anyway.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

what happened before and what masquerade is now ?!
Do you think that border protection is not needed? !!!

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

New formations - new ammunition, weapons and methods of warfare. But not checkers and horses (although horses may be). Labor is great to create the whole structure.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

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although maybe horses

it’s quite possible in some areas they will be more convenient and reliable, although in the steppes in the Ukrainian Republic of Kazakhstan I would transfer them to small aircraft

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the main thing should be the worldview, not the Khomichka’s worldview, but the worldview of the Russian patriot (even if he is a Chukchi or a Nokhcha), with the patriotism Motherland handed over everything else, without this the formation of such units would not make sense

[xorgi]

The attitude is negative. In Russia, Cossacks have always been opposed to peasants and workers. Which of the participants boasts a noble origin? It is necessary to have normal power organs, and not a miracle with a whip.
You can minus, but:

I sacredly honor the grandfather's covenants:
Pray to God - not priests,
Do not beat the one who is weak and poor,
Do not shake hands with the Cossacks.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

why minus, opposed to the peasants this mytho creativity
who are the peasants - those who work on the land, who are the Cossacks - the same only with the obligation to carry out military service

[forkboy]

Cossacks did not quarrel with peasants but lived side by side.
Cossack officer and regimental historian A.A. Pyanovsky wrote that the villages of the Stavropol Regiment were settled "mainly from the inner provinces of Russia from the odnodvors and state peasants of the Kursk, Oryol and Voronezh provinces, and some from Little Russian and Don Cossacks." The historian noted that "the first order of administration of these villages was: the rural government, made up of old people chosen by society, and the village chieftain, who were subordinate to the volost administration and the zemstvo court." Several times, according to Pyanovsky, these villages "were replenished and re-settled from Russia on the occasion of severe ruin and even the complete destruction of their highlanders." In the Stavropol Territory, there are more than one village, many villages. As you know, the Cossacks lived in the villages, the peasants in the villages. At first, the peasants were forbidden to have weapons, but after cutting the villages with abreks, they were given weapons. Soviet power exterminated and trampled memory of the Cossacks.
The unification of the villagers with the Cossack villages, according to the regimental historian, met the expectations of the command: the former odnodvorski became dashing Cossacks. Pyanovsky describes in detail the defense system of the section of the Stavropol Cossack Regiment, talks about a number of episodes of the bloody confrontation with the highlanders. One of them is connected with the defense of the village of Darkwood in November 1842, the hero of which was the centurion Didenko. In detail told A.A. Pyanovsky and about the desperate defense in November 1848 of the village of Sengileevskaya, who was attacked by a three thousandth detachment of highlanders under the command of the Uzden Mashko-Shugurov. Hurrying to the rescue, the Stavropol hundreds managed to overtake the highlanders who broke into the village and entered into a fierce battle with the superior enemy. The ripening troops of General Kovalevsky made it possible to defeat the enemy detachment and recapture the captured Sengileevites and their looted property and cattle ”

[Kyrgyz]

THOSE. can you take the barrel with the Cossack’s peels?

[smoke]

Well, if you think that in DShB (or translate) they run with whips and checkers then ????
I myself laughed about 10 years ago at this.
But now - the Cossack cadet corps - teachers are all officers.
the program be healthy - these are not the current Suvorov schools (unfortunately). The boys are busy with business and not x ... than. I’m moving forward to training, etc.
Adults actually patrol the streets and their attitude has changed.
In the mountain villages there they are really sleeping with machine guns, and the service is really being pulled by the Cossack - which you all know from the films (only weapons and equipment are different by the way)
And as I know, the Airborne Forces are very close friends with the Cossacks of different Troops (regional departments)
And no offense Films are good of course, but it is desirable to have more modern and diverse information about those issues that are being discussed.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Cossacks are Cossacks — not the Airborne Forces, not the GRU, not marines, but Cossacks, and what you write about the cadet corps is all just the conditions not for creating an estate but for washing it out, after the codec guys go to military schools or a civilian university but not to Cossack formations

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In the mountain villages there they are really sleeping with machine guns, and the service is really being pulled by the Cossack - which you all know from the films (only weapons and equipment are different by the way)

Once again, this is all people's self-defense and partisanism, not the formation of a caste

[smoke]

And I, Vladimir against castes, is the introduction of tension into society. If there will be a caste, then my relative was not taken sideways under the flags of the Cossacks. There are no extraditions to the Don, even if they flow in and advance, maybe this is the future basis for the revival (sorry for the pathos) of the Russian Empire. But only with all the people, the story with the Decembrists was already.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

maybe I didn’t put it right, maybe this is still not the right way to determine, let’s say it should be an open caste, durga as to whether there is no entrance and no exit, I took the oath and the grave of life

[smoke]

And about the oath is very interesting. And the main thing is the foundation (historical) on which to build everything. The main thing is for the benefit of the Fatherland.

[nemec55]

Of course I want some more order and everywhere duck here, as usual, we didn’t do one, we need to start the second while starting the third and it turns out everywhere a mess pancake

[alexsro]

After all, Russia will only be reborn. And Glory be to our Lord! Everything will be fine. With time only - everything will be fine. !!!!! because Russia is Orthodox. And the Holy Spirit in it, do not forget the Holy God. We are not Americans anything .....

[Gavril]

Why clown Kalash? I live in Yakutsk and see the following in our Cossacks: drunkenness, ostentatious arrogance from the rest of the people (here we are - Cossacks) and the desire to curry favor (not to serve the fatherland) before the authorities

[taseka]

"A uniform uniform for Cossack societies was approved by the president"
At first you dress the Army normally, and not just the Moscow garrison, or else the soldiers on the streets got into vomited voles! And at the parade in green robes do not dishonor us !!!

[Region71]

Cossacks always dressed themselves and armed themselves. I’m afraid that if the President himself approved the uniform, then it will have to be sewn in the same place as it was designed, in the workshops of Yudashkin.

[Region71]

Let’s look at the real side of the issue. In the area where I live there are several Cossack organizations, and only one is really engaged in raising young people, the rest are more like organizations of history buffs. Adult men gather during some kind of holiday, everyone is discharged, don’t understand what , everyone has medals and orders, don’t understand what merits. They go on a march, bawl songs and all this ends in a big booze.
now under the article: In addition, the Cossack army can now create security structures. Cossacks will be able to receive weapons. Municipal and state institutions will gradually pass under their protection, "Beglov said, adding that" the Cossacks will not be involved in protecting commercial organizations. "
There are so-called private security companies that have service weapons on their balance sheets, any Cossack organization can now create this very private security company and engage in security and detective activities, which is not clear to me how the Cossack security will differ from these private security companies. Cossacks will have to quit that job, which they are currently working on and pay all attention to protecting municipal property. Considering that even the private security companies are reluctant to protect this very municipal community, because they pay a penny, and the Cossacks will not be involved in protecting commercial organizations according to the project, I can assume that the state is trying to resolve the issue as cheaply as possible. And the Cossacks seem to be in business and are not wasting money.
“Another activity of the Cossacks will be the creation of a mobilization resource,” said Alexander Beglov. According to him, in case of emergency or unforeseen situations, the Cossacks will come to the aid of the security forces and the state.
It is not clear that in Russia mobilization measures in case of emergencies or something else have already been canceled. As if the Cossacks were not used for the purpose for which they were used by the tsarist government at the beginning of the last century to moderate dissatisfied people. The Ministry of Internal Affairs in this case remains on the sidelines and if something goes wrong, the Cossacks will be blamed.

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

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The Ministry of Internal Affairs in this case remains on the sidelines and if something goes wrong, the Cossacks will be blamed.

This is what they want to do, to sit in their offices, and the Cossacks would bring them violators Just notice one regularity when a bandit got loose somewhere, for some reason there is NEVER a police officer nearby, but for that reason you will most often meet them in restaurants, they are spinning around companies (like sincere friends). Then they are offended that they are called "trash"

[r.anoshkin]

There are border troops to guard the borders. And the revived Cossacks are still more like "mummers". And giving them weapons is stupid. You can start in a separate region, I suggest around the Caucasian republics. If they can put things in order there, then they will continue to have swords in their hands ...

[woland05]

What weapons are there for the Cossacks?!?! These clowns dressed up?!? It is better to provide troops with equipment and weapons, and disperse these amusing ones! Or let them go as combatants, chasing drinkers, all the benefits will be ...

[SIA]

It’s too early to give them weapons in their hands.

[d.gksueyjd]

The chops were already there, they ate they were disarmed. There will be weapons in their hands, first of all, the "Cossacks" will declare themselves organized crime groups.
Allow law-abiding citizens of the Russian Federation to weapons, only then it is possible to organize fighting squads of the Cossacks.