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Representatives of the US Navy had to explain to Congress about the frequent ship damage

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This week, the Congressional Armed Forces Committee heard representatives of the Navy about the increased cost of the coastal zone development program (from $ 220 million to 470 million), and also tried to find out the reasons for the frequent breakdowns of warships built according to this program. RIA News.


Representatives of the US Navy had to explain to Congress about the frequent ship damage


According to Vice-Admiral Thomas Rowden, "The last crash of this type of ship, the USS Montgomery (Montgomery), in the Panama Canal 29 of October was partly due to the fact that local technical personnel did not follow the instructions provided by the American side."

The agency notes that earlier "Montgomery" already experienced technical problems associated with constructive flaws, which made themselves felt in September, almost immediately after the start of operation of the ship.

“The design flaws caused two more ships to break down: USS Milwaukee, which broke in 40 miles off the coast of Virginia, and Coronado, which suffered in late August when moving from the Hawaiian Islands to Singapore. But the ships Fort Worth and Freedom fell victim to the incompetence of the crew, ”the article says.

The incident with Fort Worth in the Navy called one of the largest of all that ever happened to the ships of the type LCS (Littoral Combat Ship) - its repair cost $ 5,6 million and lasted 184 day. “The improper operation of the engine lubrication system caused the 3 bearings to fail from 5,” the military explained.

And finally, Freedom, which failed in July, its “engine flooded with sea water as a result of damage to the pump seal.” $ 12 million was spent on ship repairs.
Photos used:
Flickr / Official US Navy Page
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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 11 December 2016 09: 49
    +11
    Interesting))) How many more of these dough irons will be pulled out of the mattress covers until they sink? So far, these LCS have been used successfully only against the budget. laughing
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 11 December 2016 09: 54
      +12
      Design flaws caused damage to two more ships

      Less cuts allocated funds! And then to the developers and shipbuilders get a penny!
      In general, as Boyarsky said in "The Man from Boulevard des Capucines": "Remember, gentlemen - this country will be ruined by corruption" !!! wassat
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 11 December 2016 10: 06
        +6
        Who admits that the project is raw and unfinished? Those who exploit are to blame. And their hands grow out of the wrong place, and their head is a solid bone.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 11 December 2016 10: 08
        +8
        The US Congressional Armed Forces Committee this week heard representatives of the Navy about the cost of creating a coastal ships program (from $ 220 million to 470 million), and also tried to find out the reasons for the frequent breakdowns of warships built under this program.

        Well, actually these are growth diseases, they will turn on the printing press or rob some vassal, they will find wrappers then. bully
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Less cuts allocated funds

        Hello Paul! drinks So naturally, the cut will also not be so frail. hi
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 11 December 2016 10: 12
          +7
          And you don’t get sick, Vlad! drinks And to cut the mattresses of the master, whom you want for the belt is plugged in this regard. hi
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 11 December 2016 12: 56
        +4
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        "Remember, gentlemen - this country will be destroyed by corruption" !!!

        No, it won't ruin it, they officially renamed it "lobbying" and practically, half of the economy was tied to it.
    2. cap
      cap 11 December 2016 10: 14
      0
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Interesting))) How many more of these dough irons will be pulled out of the mattress covers until they sink? So far, these LCS have been used successfully only against the budget. laughing


      What about programmable breakdowns? Earned ends, and live reaper laughing
    3. jovanni
      jovanni 11 December 2016 10: 26
      +1
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      So far, these LCS have been used successfully only against the budget.


      And this is a very correct, very wise and effective use! Keep it up! It always touches me when Western "experts" compare the military power of countries only by the number of drunk babos ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2016 15: 00
        +3
        Representatives of the US Navy had to explain to Congress about the frequent ship damage

        read the comments posted above ... depressing ... the guys seem to be adequate, but fell for this "carrot" ... well, what is there to splash joy from glasses? we have a pancake three (3) newest corvettes filled up without participating in hostilities .. (I wonder who will answer) on our Kuznetsovo landing system messes up, the ropes, thick in the arm, fuck, don't hold. some 25000-28000 kg. (banter) ... "wider and deeper" look, so there is nothing to smile about in the fleets, the "vests" will confirm .. -the most "killed" branch of the army ((((, and so, sadness to tears ... the world is degrading.
  2. newcomer
    newcomer 11 December 2016 10: 04
    +4
    not okay. change 3 bearings _5.6 lemon.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 11 December 2016 10: 11
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      change 3 bearings _5.6 lemon.


      Export modification of the T-90 costs 2,5 raccoons smile
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 11 December 2016 11: 03
        +3
        yes, let them break more often. I am only for, with all limbs.
    2. lis-ik
      lis-ik 11 December 2016 12: 06
      +1
      Here the price is rather not bearings, but work. Probably I had to take out the engine or disassemble the whole, as I understand it, probably the main bearings were covered.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2016 15: 31
        +6
        Quote: lis-ik
        as I understand it, probably the main bearings are covered.

        this is serious ... with longing I remember Soviet bearings ... they were chased by inertia for another 10-15 years ... sometimes the car died before the bearing, if the oil was changed, on time. in 2000, the brand "made in the USSR" acquired a new meaning, we suddenly learned that our many, many products were of very high quality, almost with a "lifetime" guarantee ...
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 December 2016 10: 16
    +1
    Something too obvious. The point is the relaxation of the Amerovsky military-industrial complex, and indeed the military machine in general - there is no more enemy, and the Papuans can be dealt with with one hand. So frank "cuts" went, the launch into production of phantasmagoric concepts designed for the use of weapons that do not yet exist (such as "Zumvolt"), or, well, such a "wunderwafli" as a coastal ship. Have they forgotten how to build ships? Or design? Yes, I don’t believe it. How could this be released?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 December 2016 14: 59
      +1
      "The point is the relaxation of the amerovsky military-industrial complex, and indeed the military machine - the enemy no longer exists," ////

      Such a period was in the 90s - and ended. First of all, China was stunned by them (and all) by the pace of military development. Second, Russia began a major modernization of the armed forces.
      Therefore, the use of coastal trimaranes is also being overestimated - once they were planned to catch drug smugglers and terrorists near the United States, now they are sent to the straits of Southeast Asia. And the weapon turned out to be weak. Perhaps the Zumvolts will have to be rearmed not for strikes on the coast, but for the war in the open ocean. Both in those and in other ships the engines are unusual - hence "childhood diseases" - breakdowns.
      Look at the Berks, who stamp like pies, there are no problems with the engines.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 11 December 2016 15: 54
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Therefore, the use of coastal trimaranes is also being overestimated - once they were planned to catch drug smugglers and terrorists near the United States, now they are sent to the straits of Southeast Asia. And the weapon turned out to be weak. Perhaps the Zumvolts will have to be rearmed not for strikes on the coast, but for the war in the open ocean. Both in those and in other ships the engines are unusual - hence "childhood diseases" - breakdowns.

        I think that the Mountain shooter wanted to convey a slightly different thought. The fact is that all these futuristic weapons were originally laid down on the basis of an overstatement of estimates. Agree that a shot from a gun where the price of a shot is 800-900 thousand $, even if 100% hit is overstated, In this polymer superstructure not only reduces the percentage of detection of the ship, but is also one of the main problems, the ship with such a complex design simply can not get hit in this superstructure, otherwise it will immediately fail.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 11 December 2016 16: 05
          0
          All in comparison. A shot of the latest marine stealth KR LRASM - three million. If the exact projectile will be for half a million and fly 150 km, as intended, then it is comparable.

          And the add-on ...? that polymers, that aluminum, that thin steel - no difference.
          all the same breaks.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 11 December 2016 18: 18
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            All in comparison. A shot of the latest marine stealth KR LRASM - three million. If the exact projectile will be for half a million and fly 150 km, as intended, then it is comparable.

            Somehow you didn’t correctly compare the LRASM with a penetrating warhead of warhead weighing 454 kg or 1000 pounds and a 155 mm projectile weight of 102 kg, explosive mass of 11 kg. Of course, it’s suitable for destroying a tank, but to destroy a similar ship in a class, a hundred of such shells will be needed, although for Zumwalt itself, even getting one into a plastic superstructure can be critical.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 11 December 2016 18: 28
              0
              Sumvolt is an experimental platform. With a powerful "floating power plant".
              Which will have to provide energy for all sorts of "railguns", lasers and
              other bells and whistles of the future. But since now the Americans are seriously nervous because of the Chinese fleet, the Kyrgyz Republic, aviation (and the disputed islands sad ) they will probably want to adapt it simply as a missile destroyer with the Kyrgyz Republic.
              Since Sumvolt does not have his own strong air defense, I think that some Burke will cover him "in business".
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 11 December 2016 19: 15
                0
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Sumvolt is an experimental platform. With a powerful "floating power plant".
                Which will have to provide energy for all sorts of "railguns", lasers and
                other tricks of the future

                That's right.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                But since now the Americans are seriously nervous because of the Chinese fleet, the Kyrgyz Republic, aviation (and the disputed islands)

                The Chinese simply brought the Americans back to earth, back from star wars.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Since Sumvolt does not have his own strong air defense, I think that some Burke will cover him "in business".

                I doubt that in general they will be redone, this program has already gone far beyond all financial parameters. This program most likely awaits the fate of the Lockheed F-117 Knight Hawk program
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 12 December 2016 11: 26
                  0
                  "I doubt that they will be altered at all, this program is already out" ////

                  Three ships will be built.
                  You still do not forget that he can plant 80 KR for a sweet soul.
                  In addition, he has a unique sonar station - to track the submarine. With a high own speed, he can be a good "hunter".
                  And ... on the radars, he looks like a fishing schooner. 3 cm of radar absorbing coating is not a joke. So even without artillery - a serious ship.
                  1. APASUS
                    APASUS 13 December 2016 18: 13
                    0
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    And ... on the radars, he looks like a fishing schooner. 3 cm of radar absorbing coating is not a joke. So even without artillery - a serious ship.

                    I would argue with this statement. In what wavelengths does he look like a schooner, I remember (I repeat) F-117 Knight Hawk was also completely polymer and should be just a bird on the radar, but in the meter range it was spotted by old woman Neva S -125.
                    And another not unimportant fact that the ship did not take part in the database, how invulnerable it is even before it is truly known
                2. PSih2097
                  PSih2097 13 December 2016 18: 22
                  0
                  Quote: APASUS
                  This program is likely to await the fate of the Lockheed F-117 Knight Hawk program.

                  By the way, the F-117s are in storage, so they can return to duty ...
                  The planes taken out of service as of 2014 are stored in a special "storage 1000" and are maintained in flightable condition. In 2016, the US Congress decided to send existing F-117s to Davis-Monten AFB in Arizona for storage in an open area.
                  1. APASUS
                    APASUS 13 December 2016 21: 56
                    0
                    Quote: PSih2097
                    By the way, the F-117s are in storage, so they can return to duty ...
                    The planes taken out of service as of 2014 are stored in a special "storage 1000" and are maintained in flightable condition. In 2016, the US Congress decided to send existing F-117s to Davis-Monten AFB in Arizona for storage in an open area.

                    Come on tell tales to you, their time is already numbered.
                    Well, that shouldn't continue for much longer. This week, the House Armed Services Committee voted to remove the requirement that certain F-117s “be maintained in a condition that would allow recall of those aircraft to future service.”
                    That would allow the Air Force to finally send the Nighthawks to the sprawling Boneyard at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Arizona, according to Flight Global, and will likely permanently end the F-117 as an airplane capable of operations. In other words, scrapped.
                    Although the dry desert conditions in Arizona are ideal for keeping aircraft viable, Flight Global reports the Nighthawks will “probably be torn apart or less likely, scavenged for hard-to-find parts.” Due to the sensitive nature of the Nighthawk's stealth technology, it would not be surprising for the Air Force to dismantle and bury them. A few will surely make attractive museum pieces.
                    So ends the world's first operational stealth aircraft.

                    In short, as part of the reduction in military spending, all available F-117s are sent to Davis-Monten Air Force Base in Arizona. This base is known for having the largest aviation cemetery on its territory.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 December 2016 10: 22
    +2
    But as soon as they didn’t mock over our ship - both a rusty vessel, and metal, and the last century. And they themselves have one breakdown after another, and moreover, on new ships that cost the taxpayer billions and billions of green.
  5. demiurg
    demiurg 11 December 2016 10: 29
    0
    regarding the rise in the cost of the program for the creation of coastal zone ships (from $ 220 million to 470 million)

    But say cuts and kickbacks in Russia, we still have much to strive for.
    And only high-profile scandals come out, like this and a drink on a penguin. How much evergreen currency is quietly sawed on the supply of ammunition, food and other small things, in the course of the mind is generally not extensible. x3 multiplier in profit is probably considered not very profitable :))
  6. viktor.
    viktor. 11 December 2016 10: 30
    0
    something tells me that the hand of Moscow breaks the ships wassat laughing
    1. satum
      satum 11 December 2016 11: 31
      0
      That's for sure, Moscow and Chinese spare parts are to blame. repeat
  7. Chak
    Chak 11 December 2016 12: 20
    0
    Comparison of losses in the avian fleet Russia: USA
    https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20161207/1483056769
    .html
    How we will count: incidents on the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" and the experience of the US Navy
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 11 December 2016 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: ChAK
      How we will count: incidents on the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" and the experience of the US Navy

      As usual - about our own, modestly silent, someone else's - we shit - this is true for all parties.
  8. dmb91
    dmb91 11 December 2016 22: 37
    0
    Americans put in the price of the product research and development and very decent salaries of workers and scientists.
    This is not a cut. and stimulation of the military-industrial complex and science. Unfortunately, only the top is cutting the loot. LCS and Sumvolt are either a step in front or "jump to the side". Time will tell.