“I met through social networks ...” About testing students for extremism

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On the eve of the trial of the Moscow District Military Court, the state prosecutor asked Alexander Ivanov, a former student of the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University, to be sentenced to five years in prison before the name change. It is about the very “honors pupil, komsomol woman, sportswoman” who intended to move to Syria through the territory of Turkey in order to find herself in the ranks of the Islamic State terrorist group (prohibited in the Russian Federation).

“I met through social networks ...” About testing students for extremism




Karaulov, it turned out, became the object of recruiting a terrorist organization through a social network. The recruitment was carried out using all the psychological subtleties, including an understanding of the “maiden longing”, as a result of which the student decided that she was in love with an emissary and was ready to go where the “network lover” would point.

As it is known, Karaulov was intercepted in time in Turkey and returned to Moscow, having organized monitoring of her activities. Then Karaulov decided to change the name to Alexander Ivanov, and she did not refuse to communicate with the representative of the terrorist conglomerate. Social network again, love again ... amor ...

Of course, it is hardly worth thinking here that Karaulov-Ivanov, through the network, is completely imbued with ideas of destructive pseudo-Islam. As they say in Russia, the girl did not have enough attention, so she started spinning ... However, well, Karauralov, in theory, should be fully aware of her responsibility, because she was going to a clear crime. And “love” by Russian legislation, it seems, is not a mitigating circumstance when a crime is committed ...
But Varvara Karaulov, with her network "acquaintance" with an ISIL recruiter, is the most resonant recent incident. And how many more such “Barbarian”, who are depressed in their parents' apartments and want “big and pure love”, live in Russia? He does not just live, but also actively, as they say, “uses” social networks for loving superscripts, who in fact set completely different goals. And not only “Barbarian”, but also “Sing”, “Sash”, “Lesh”, “Kohl”, which “use” the network no less actively, stumbling, for example, on those who promise to teach “honestly” to make a million per month, putting the "minimum" effort. And the network actively “uses” them ...

Naturally, such network users initially do not realize what kind of contacts they suddenly find, and who (what) actually stands behind these contacts. At first they don’t give up, and then it’s already too late ...

Are there ways to counter the growth in the number of “lost sheep” among young people who are dissatisfied with their current situation? The Federal Agency for National Affairs (FADN) decided that they know one of the measures, if not an unambiguous reduction in the number of those who are ready to join extremist communities, then a measure of early detection of such. Newspaper "Vedomosti" reports that the FADN at the past forum “The Russian Caucasus: the Territory of Unity” proposed a joint program with the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. It lies in the questioning of students of Russian educational institutions on the subject of "sympathy for extremists and a propensity for a positive perception of extremism."

The submission states that this kind of questioning as an experiment should be conducted in universities - upon admission or on the 1 course. The experiment itself at the initial stage will be carried out in Moscow, and then, if it is recognized as successful, it will be distributed by specialized government agencies to all regions of the Russian Federation.

After such information was announced by the FADN, there were both supporters of the idea and its opponents. Supporters see in the initiative the possibility of identifying sympathizers with extremists and potential extremists in the youth on the basis of tests prepared by specialists. Opponents see in the same more “paper” than a really existing measure.

If you try to look at the idea of ​​conducting a “anti-extremist” survey from a purely neutral position, then there are probably more questions than answers. With all the external expediency of such activities (because it, as stated, will allow to identify potential extremists before they commit any illegal act) undisclosed nuances remain. First of all, how effective can the “extremism” test be, and by what specific specialists will it be prepared? Secondly (their “first” flows), is it possible that the applicant (student), who already knows about his willingness to join the extremist environment, will be able to “deceive” the test, understanding how to “correctly” answer , not to be the object of attention from law enforcement? Thirdly, what specifically to do with the test results, and who exactly will take action if the student shows his extremist inclinations in answering questions? Will this be an additional burden for teachers to work separately with potential accomplices of terrorists, or will a student be automatically registered with law enforcement agencies?

What is at the moment? In general education and vocational schools, a directive from law enforcement agencies was issued on the subject of the need to monitor the activity of students (students) in social networks on the subject of extremism. Monitoring, in the understanding of law enforcement, should be engaged, the curators of groups or class supervisors. When taking into account the volume of the “paper” load, which already lies on the shoulders of the teaching staff of schools, colleges and universities, this work turns into a blatant formality: the report is handed over to the student / student’s “extremist” online dating - a tick by law enforcement agencies set. At the same time, neither in an educational institution nor in a testing instance are they particularly prepared to ask: how much does the same class teacher really track the contacts of his charges, considering the fact of their possible activity in a wide variety of social networks, often using nicknames (network aliases) ...

The formality of the approach leads to the fact that there is a report in the form of a piece of paper about checking for extremism, but in reality there is no systematic check. At the same time, even a cursory check of contacts between Russian schoolchildren and students leads to not the most comforting conclusions. In contacts of a considerable number of representatives of studying youth, there are “slippery” personalities who spread sketches with Nazi or terrorist symbols. Here are a few graphic examples of what our young people like on social networks (in order not to have problems with Roskomnadzor, certain adjustments have been made to the schedule):




Until then, students learn to “dock” in such cases, and where it’s common to draw the boundary between the school’s (student’s) desire watershed will trivially stand out from the crowd and discharge from the crowd by becoming criminal on the slippery road is a serious question. And the answer to it, even if it sounds a little snobbish, can only be found by everyone, like the whole place, and draw the appropriate conclusions. It is also important here that the state structures, having taken up the matter, do not overreact and do not arrange a feast of total prohibitions, which can also have the opposite effect.
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  1. +5
    9 December 2016 06: 51
    Monitoring, in the understanding of law enforcement, should be handled by group curators or class leaders. When considering the volumes of that “paper” load,

    The idiocy of officials is over the top.
    More and more modern conditions resemble the late USSR.
    In this case, it is very similar to the formalism of ideological work during the years of stagnation.
    1. 0
      9 December 2016 07: 53
      Disagree
      [/ quote] When taking into account the volume of the “paper” load, which already lies on the shoulders of the teaching staff of schools
      And do not need paper work here, who better than they can see the changes in the wards? In case of suspicious changes in behavior, simply inform where it should be, so to speak, pass the baton.
      the report was submitted - no “extremist” acquaintances were found on the school’s / student’s network - a tick was set by law enforcement agencies. [quote]
      You don’t need any ticks and surveillance in the networks either, this is the work of the FSB and the load is not big for the teachers and so on.
      1. +6
        9 December 2016 08: 06
        I get the impression that our students have nothing to do! And "nothing" in the literal sense. Foolishness in my head from an excess of free time.
        1. +3
          9 December 2016 08: 33
          Dope in my head from an overabundance of free time.

          I will support. And therefore, first, all drive out through military service. And the mind will increase and the thrill of civilian life then feel.
        2. +2
          9 December 2016 10: 12
          And where does such an amount of time come from, you never asked such a question ??? Yes, they stupidly do not know how and do not want to do anything, except to hang around in their "bastards". Absolute indifference, except for their own "needs". A generation of consumers, with very few exceptions!
    2. +1
      9 December 2016 11: 54
      An example from the very First :: - December 8, 2016, 19:17
      "" "" Russian President Vladimir Putin was surprised at the work of the judiciary when he saw a court order in which a person is accused of a crime, which means writing a statement to the prosecutor's office
      “And the fact that absurdities, to put it mildly, is generally enough there, is for sure. I don’t know who gave it to me. Court statement. The court ruling says: such-and-such (last name) - and further: “I made it by writing a statement to the Lipetsk regional prosecutor’s office,” Putin said at a meeting of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights.

      The President added: “When I look at such things, my hair remaining on my head stands on end. What it is? Are you completely crazy? Just amazing. ”
      Intersound sounded at:

      8 декабря 2016 года
      The President held a meeting of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights in the Kremlin.
      http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/53440
  2. AX
    +2
    9 December 2016 06: 58
    It’s like, her head is awkward ...
    1. +2
      9 December 2016 07: 41
      Well, nothing, there will be time to think about sewing mittens, and colleagues in the workshop will surely help you figure out what a real lyuboff is and shame will be shaken out of your head.
      1. +6
        9 December 2016 08: 12
        How long was she under investigation? Two years, and never repented ... If she doesn’t have to sew mittens, it’s not for long .. So explain what the goods won't have time for .. She’ll most likely leave the country upon release ... Fools all over the world are needed .. and in ISIS and in a brothel ..
        Quote: midivan
        Well, nothing, there will be time to think about sewing mittens, and colleagues in the workshop will surely help you figure out what a real lyuboff is and shame will be shaken out of your head.
        1. 0
          9 December 2016 09: 47
          Quote: 210ox
          How long was she under investigation? Two years, and she still didn’t repent ... If she doesn’t have to sew mittens, it’s not for long .. So explain what the merchants won't have time for.

          You apparently have heard little about our women's colonies, there are orders, men will smoke and if she’s not there long then only to a different world, she will do everything wink
          1. +4
            9 December 2016 09: 55
            Of course .. I heard a little and lived a little .. On the sixth dozen .. And I don’t know about the Mozhaisk colony and about our system .. Let it be according to your hi
            1. 0
              9 December 2016 11: 21
              Quote: 210ox
              .Let it be your way
              crying Brick accepted, I allow landing laughing hi
          2. Fox
            0
            9 December 2016 12: 15
            og ...
            Quote: midivan
            there are orders, men will smoke and if she’s not there for long then only to another world, she herself will do everything

            tell rabid vaginas ....
    2. +7
      9 December 2016 08: 01
      And all because there was much to spoil .. I can’t spoof everything to the head not burdened with principles, traditions, patriotism ... Begin to educate from the cradle, and not now .. This applies to everyone. We educate our children in the spirit of patriotism, a sports image they have no life and time for all sorts of nonsense ...
      Quote: AX
      It’s like, her head is awkward ...
      1. +4
        9 December 2016 08: 29
        Quote: 210ox
        And all because there was much to spoil .. I can’t spoof everything to the head not burdened with principles, traditions, patriotism ... Begin to educate from the cradle, and not now .. This applies to everyone. We educate our children in the spirit of patriotism, a sports image they have no life and time for all sorts of nonsense ...
        Quote: AX
        It’s like, her head is awkward ...

        Straight all my thought in your komente! The child was alone in the family. It is necessary to bring up so that to be the child the closest friend, and not just, theoretically, the parent !!! Together with her, her ancestors should be attracted. And at the same time, against this background, it’s just to remind all Russians what it means to be a parent!
        1. +3
          9 December 2016 09: 28
          I will continue your thought. From kindergarten they teach the rules of the road - "look to the left, look to the right." It is also necessary to explain and teach the rules of a safe Internet "traffic".
    3. +1
      9 December 2016 11: 38
      lack of male attention .. and here this one, the recruiter, is pouring sweetly into his ears. I do not understand why she succumbed a second time - apparently, she was firmly "hooked" in the spiritual sense.
  3. +1
    9 December 2016 07: 36
    And do they really believe that someone in the least bit sympathetic to extremism will tick off the questionnaire that he "likes extremism" or is he "ready to participate in terrorist acts"?
  4. +4
    9 December 2016 08: 01
    In general, forcing teachers to monitor students' activity on the network is completely idiotic. I can’t even imagine how they will do it, instead of checking notebooks they will surf and like with red eyes. They simply unsubscribed in the same way as they conduct safety checks after resonant accidents on the road. all over the country, security raids, checks and other formalism begin --- until the next high-profile case.
    1. +2
      9 December 2016 08: 34
      For reporting, it is better to write that everything is normal.
      And the teacher will write about extremism ---- he will be blamed for this.
      Formalism.
  5. Erg
    +3
    9 December 2016 08: 18
    We want to live like under capitalism (simplified), but for people and control to be like under Stalin ... But then it turns out - what we fought for ...
  6. +2
    9 December 2016 08: 33
    -check students for extremism.
    NOT ANY extremist terrorist. BUT ANY extremist terrorist.
    There is no ideology, there are no REAL patriotic organizations. The Minister of Culture hangs boards Mannerheim and Kolchak.
    PS "Here's the execution of the rebel - and on vacation!" - the film "City of Masters".
    PP.S Interestingly, would Le Pen and his fellow Europeans pass the THIS Test?
  7. 0
    9 December 2016 08: 39
    It seems to me that we should not conduct tests. and to bind a person's social network to a passport, for example, or, during training, to bind a social network ID to a record book, without the possibility of changing for the entire period of study (here it will be much easier to monitor social networks). Yes, you tell me this is control, I agree. but on the other hand, now social networks are just a hotbed of all bad things, there are a lot of people who use them for information and communication, but there are also a lot of people, or rather who sit there, do not "troll" I hate this word, but simply behave extremely bad, spreading false information, distributing child pornography, etc., selling drugs in closed groups, killing animals to show off to morons like them, and a lot of other things that they would be afraid to do in life. and what can I say there are really people provocateurs, or rather, those who are rude to the right, to the left throw mud at everyone, but I'm sure many of them had such cases when they didn't explain anything to such people, but just want to come and give them a face for their long tongue , and all this is due to impunity. this is the first point, the second point, this is the fault of the social networks themselves, a full or extremely formal attitude to the moderation of content not at the group level, but at the level of allowing the dissemination of such information, we all know perfectly well that all large foreign and Russian social networks are well aware that through their platforms the distribution of the above is carried out, and the fact that they do not influence it in any way and it turns out that they contribute to the distribution. If they wanted to have long ago closed the groups and channels and the people who are engaged in this, and even more so they gave out the data of these people. It seems to me that we need to start from the top, introduce legislative rules for social networks on the immediate removal of content that would fall under the set of rules, and not just after going to court. and if it would bear fruit, then control over a person is not needed.
  8. Fox
    +1
    9 December 2016 08: 42
    not so long ago, in 2009, airsoft players were also considered extremists ... things started. They fought, cho ... now the same thing, only here in the vegetable markets crowds of bearded people live, come, leave ... not traders. and they they don’t see. they have, in the course, invisible beards of all.
    and educators, teachers ... so the Jewish prime minister advised them to go where they pay. Here is the grain of "kastremizma" ...
  9. +1
    9 December 2016 08: 45
    Already pulled up by bans and restrictions. Maybe about total control and run.
    1. 0
      9 December 2016 09: 42
      Quote: Kenneth
      Already pulled up by bans and restrictions. Maybe about total control and run.

      Gygygy, what are the bans? Cross the road to red? "They're furious with fat!" Now, if they studied in the afternoon, and at work in the evening, or vice versa, then they would not notice the prohibitions, but they do not climb out of the clubs and it is rightly said above to put their parents next to them, otherwise they also justify love, they say, filth, then hands would be out of shame it would be time to impose on myself.
      1. +3
        9 December 2016 10: 51
        And at night, learn theses in April. And at a demonstration twice a year. And dances are only approved by the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions
    2. +1
      9 December 2016 10: 34
      They bullied those who lack self-restraint and self-control. Such people are dangerous to others and themselves. You can’t do it yourself - nobody asks you, it’s calmer for us.
      So I would like to know that the beloved visited his sweetheart in the colony? I wonder if this will happen? And how will she justify his carelessness?
      1. 0
        9 December 2016 11: 37
        Quote: Siberian
        So I would like to know that the beloved visited his sweetheart in the colony? I wonder if this will happen?

        No smile It doesn’t happen if he doesn’t let his own from the broads, but if he comes from the Pentagonbelay ) will not be released either laughing
        Quote: Siberian
        And how will she justify his carelessness?

        He died a brave death .. (dogs).
  10. +1
    9 December 2016 09: 32
    Reliability check since childhood?
    Let's go far, comrades, the long-forgotten Word and Deed, the law of five ears of corn, and other totalitarian things come to mind.
    1. Erg
      +4
      9 December 2016 10: 01
      No, of course. It is better to cancel articles for drugs, corruption, terrorism, etc. It is time for us to know true freedom. After all, each person has the right to self-development and expression of his will. Kill, rob, rape. To hell with control and conventions - forward to democracy
      1. +3
        9 December 2016 10: 44
        Cognized in the 90s.
        And the Ukrainians - at a specific time. The "democratic" crowd creates whatever it wants at its own discretion: if it wants, it disperses the judges, if it wants, it closes enterprises, if it wants, it beats up the security officials - democracy, nothing can be done.
      2. +4
        9 December 2016 11: 17
        There is no need to exaggerate, the presumption of innocence has not yet been canceled, and any dissenter can take a pencil.
        In order to cook a living frog and it did not jump out of the boiler, it is necessary to gradually increase the degree.
        The same statement can be applied to the restriction of civil liberties in society.
        What's next? We are intimidated by extremists, terrorists and others, and we agree with all "legal" restrictions.
        "He knows the big giraffe better", that is, voluntarily putting on a yoke around his neck, so it will come to the point that we are waiting for an analogue of North Korea, only with capitalism.
        1. Erg
          0
          9 December 2016 21: 36
          Quote: raid14
          so it comes to the dogo that we are waiting for an analogue of North Korea, only with capitalism.

          Or Ukraine ... Agree, sir, this is not so simple.
  11. 0
    9 December 2016 10: 13
    using all the psychological subtleties, including an understanding of "girlish longing"

    Note to the Russian peasants! We must fight for each of our girls. To her restaurant, to the theater, to bed after all.
    1. +1
      9 December 2016 11: 46
      Quote: Airborne6
      Note to the Russian peasants! We must fight for each of our girls. To her restaurant, to the theater, to bed after all.

      And life is not a pity, provided that she has Honor and Dignity, and if she’s ready to spread her legs for chocolate, then fire her into the furnace.
  12. +1
    9 December 2016 10: 13
    I believe that it is necessary to react harshly to extremists.

    In Ukraine, the topic was "they are children", and in 17, students formed underground circles and later bombed.

    Conventional persuasion did not work.

    Putting in jail makes no sense at all, shooting too expensive.
    But it is necessary to isolate in any case and in such a way that a person benefits the country, but cannot spoil.

    Labor camps and correction until the young man ceases to be young ...
    1. +1
      9 December 2016 10: 58
      The DPRK successfully implemented your ideas. Can emigrate there
      1. +1
        9 December 2016 11: 23
        Exactly! I wanted to write, did not have time.
        1. 0
          9 December 2016 14: 41
          Quote: Kenneth
          The DPRK successfully implemented your ideas. Can emigrate there

          Quote: raid14
          Exactly! I wanted to write, did not have time.

          Both of you there Yes three years old ... hi
          1. Erg
            0
            9 December 2016 21: 43
            Quote: V.ic
            Both of you there, about three years old ...

            "Power can be anything but weak." I fully support this well-known phrase. There is nothing worse than a mess. That's how much I say - it's time for Putin to take power into his own hands. There is no central power - the power of cops, bandits, judges (bribed first) immediately appears. The power of money, not the power of power. Of course, it is good if justice is behind the power of force. But that's not the point. Personal analysis. In general, justice is a subjective concept. You can't please everyone. Here the meaning is different. So that everyone lives according to the laws of this power. ALL is the key word.
  13. 0
    9 December 2016 10: 43
    I read smart comments, with wise advice I felt stupid. Therefore, I will ask a simple and stupid question: why students and not only (people of different education and status) go to these organizations. It may be necessary to find out the cause and eliminate it.
    Who will tell me what goals are set by igil and alnusra, which resonates with people?
    1. +1
      9 December 2016 11: 53
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      Who will tell me what goals are set by igil and alnusra, which resonates with people?

      The goal is "caliphate", and who is smarter there is green paper, and the response is found far from people, but non-people.
    2. 0
      9 December 2016 12: 04
      This is all clear ..... the plan was explained to us all - in order for the "golden billion" to live normally, it is necessary to "thin out" humanity (wars, drugs, AIDS, epidemics), then the globalization of everything, everything, and a quiet, calm life on the planet. One problem is Russia. Russia is unpredictable, uncontrollable, incomprehensible, illogical, unwashed, ill-mannered and so seductive.
    3. +3
      9 December 2016 16: 15
      Well, for example, Varvara Karaulova - from great romantic love. Just think, someone cuts off their heads there, her beloved is very, very different - kind, strong, courageous. Despite the knowledge of 5 languages ​​and the Moscow university, apparently, did not read books. Otherwise, I would have understood everything long ago without my own involvement in such stories, all of which have not been written by anyone: by classics, essayists, and prose writers, and even poets. Infantilism, but stubborn.
      1. 0
        10 December 2016 00: 48
        It is unlikely that Karaulova went there because of love, most likely there was a desire to shoot people and cut her head.

        And 5 languages ​​and universities are from idleness and hidden unemployment.
    4. Erg
      +1
      10 December 2016 23: 14
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      Who will tell me what goals are set by igil and alnusra that resonates with people

      There is a big difference between education and EDUCATION !. Are you in ISIS? And I? And what slows down? .. Education is a specificity. Education is an outlook, following traditions, knowledge based on analysis (accordingly, the ability to do this), experience transferred by elders is a conglomeration of aspirations and principles. It can be expanded, but not necessary. Karaulova mastered the sopromat and theormech (figuratively), but did not understand the most important thing (everyone himself will substitute the necessary). Everything is elementary.
  14. +1
    9 December 2016 13: 41
    She’s a pawn, but it’s necessary to judge those who left the leaders and militants in the Caucasus, including Chechnya, under rotten fables about the re-education of Islamic terrorists ... Only recently such a bloke wrote me in the mail about what a supposedly great Islamic warrior terrorist Maskhadov and his codl ...
  15. +2
    10 December 2016 11: 43
    A good solution would be to link the nickname in the social network to the passport of its owner. The Internet should cease to be anonymous.
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  16. 0
    10 December 2016 23: 16
    Let's go from the other side. There is an objective need for "democratic" states to develop information technology to control consumers and the electorate, which is limited by the legal system. It follows that terrorism is necessary as an obvious dangerous factor, the threat of which makes it possible to regulate previously not allowed interference in the private life of citizens, constantly lowering the threshold of sensitivity of "civil society". It all started with the Twin Towers. On the other hand, the participation of state structures in the creation of terrorist cells is indicated by the fact that terrorism is impossible without big money, and the Fed knows how to control cash flows. Terrorism is an inevitable evil, but the rate of capital turnover increases.
  17. +1
    11 December 2016 14: 40
    With stupidity of social networks and pastime in them, only catching Pokemon can compete. laughing

    Only a very limited number of people benefited from social networks, such as Zuckerberg, who literally pumped billions out of thin air; facebook is worth nothing.

    Well, the psychological instability of the guards is simply amazing! Previously, they bred them on the bed, and now - on terrorism. am In the interval between recruits, she had to slip in her some kind of character not burdened with morality - she would have forgotten about the igilas and other nonsense.
  18. 0
    14 December 2016 00: 56
    Something we didn’t even think before was that it was possible at all - to check compatriots "for extremism." Especially students.
    Do they, auditors, even understand what they are doing? These are guys 17-20 years old, uncontrolled seething of hormones and emotions, rejection of everything that seems stagnant.
    Yes, damn it, any student in his soul is an extremist, and from ignorance - an extremist!
    The generation of parents who failed to educate this generation went to dust - also under conditions that make the education of an adequate personality an unrealistic task.
    And now, the government, instead of slurping the growing generation, begins to blame today's young people for growing up like this ... Not trained to think and decide, analyze, distinguish true values.
    And WHO, ASKED, ruined education? Free circles and sections - where? Shit in a zombie - where?
    If something can be done, then warn and inform youth about propaganda via the Internet. Caution, not fiscal.
    It is clear that among students such measures will only cause bitterness and - the desire to do the opposite.