Major failure of Iraqi special forces in Mosul

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On Wednesday afternoon, the Iraqi command and headquarters of the Western coalition reported on the seizure of the Mosul hospital Al-Salam, in which IG militants (banned in Russia) organized a command post, reports Look with reference to Reuters.

It is noted that "the hospital is located deep in the eastern part of Mosul, just 1,5 km from the Tigris River, which divides the city into the eastern and western parts," and its seizure was presented as a major success of the Iraqi special forces.



“This operation marked a change in tactics of the Iraqi command. Earlier, the military and their supporters from the Kurdish militia occupied and cleaned quarter after quarter, excluding the possibility of being surrounded by terrorists. This time, the advance of the Iraqi special forces to the hospital was swift, parts of the government forces entered the defense line of the IG supporters, ”the statement reads.

However, further events showed that the Iraqi unit that had detached from the main forces was trapped.



“It looks like DAISH militants lured us into an ambush, they managed to surround our fighters in the hospital,” one of the officers later told the agency.



According to Reuters, the elite formations of special forces and armored vehicles were thrown to help those around them, aviation the coalition launched several attacks on terrorists. “Thanks to this, it was possible to evacuate the wounded and damaged armored vehicles from the hospital. At the same time, the exit was carried out under the fire of snipers and grenade launchers, ”the newspaper writes with reference to eyewitnesses.



Western mass media do not report on the scale of losses, however, according to the militants' resources, data appeared that the Iraqis lost more than 40 people killed during the battle. Dozens of fighters were injured. Destroyed more than 10-ti units of armored vehicles. Islamists have illustrated their messages with photos.






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  1. +26
    8 December 2016 08: 38
    I wonder where was John Rambo? what
    1. +62
      8 December 2016 08: 52
      He is in Aleppo. Trying to negotiate through Kerry with Lavrov. To get out of there alive
      1. +8
        8 December 2016 09: 05
        But seriously, this is only part of the truth and there are still many surprises waiting for them or they will go along the Mosul skating rink or they won’t take it.
        1. +21
          8 December 2016 09: 23
          Quote: cniza
          But seriously, this is only part of the truth and there are still many surprises waiting for them or they will go along the Mosul skating rink or they won’t take it.

          They'll take something, sooner or later. Americans don't count Iraqi soldiers. The photographs resemble the storming of Grozny, when our generals "distinguished themselves".
          1. +7
            8 December 2016 09: 38
            Still, VBIEDs are a serious argument of spirits during the war in the city. Such a shnyag can emerge from any gateway.
            They greatly helped the defeat of the US Air Force with "friendly fire" at the Iraqis ...
            By the way, an interesting shot of the "field fortifications" of the Turks to which the jihad-mobile is going. It banged hard. Rate how the equipment was hidden.

            The Maikop convoy, which has become our great grief, cannot be compared with this situation.
            The location of the burnt "boxes" is only (!) At the station ...
      2. +8
        8 December 2016 09: 58
        I think it's time to declare a truce in Mosul, no?
    2. +1
      8 December 2016 09: 08
      Quote: qwert789as
      where was John Rambo?

      In Hollywood, the world saved.
    3. +2
      8 December 2016 09: 21
      How where? You mean this traveling salesman who sells used Hummers? request
      Quote: qwert789as
      I wonder where was John Rambo? what
    4. +3
      8 December 2016 09: 24
      And here is where -
      laughing good
      We will teach them ...... They didn’t carry out any special operations normally. Everywhere chepushilya got into trouble!
    5. +2
      8 December 2016 13: 30
      Captain America and the man of the piece of iron.
      Where did they look ????? How is this allowed ????? belay
  2. +7
    8 December 2016 08: 51
    Something the Americans are driving directly to slaughter the Iraqis. The alternative to taking Allepo in Mosul did not work. But the city must be taken. To Americans, everything that happens is like a bone in the throat. The city was not taken to the elections. So Obama will not resign without taking Mosul. The laurels of the Russian army do not give Americans rest. The Russian special forces and the air forces are successfully fighting. Not today tomorrow there will be one desert in Daisha in Syria. And in the desert, without civilian cover, but against the VKS. This is even fanatics understand that suicide. By the way, if the Russians start fantasizing about a moderate apposition in the ears. And put the weapons in Mosul to start threatening. What will the Americans say?
    1. +2
      8 December 2016 09: 28
      Quote: Observer2014
      Something Americans are driving directly to the slaughter of Iraqis.

      Hardly
      [/ quote] This time, the advance of Iraqi special forces to the hospital was swift, parts of government forces wedged themselves into the defensive line of IS supporters, "the report said. However, further events showed that the Iraqi unit that had detached from the main forces was trapped. [quote]
      Courage and self-confidence I think it makes sense for Amers to ruin the fighters?
  3. +10
    8 December 2016 08: 53
    there was infa that the Ishilov’s suicide bombers initially attacked, and then the defeat was completed just by the aircraft, as if they were bombed by this very hospital, where the special forces were sitting.
  4. +2
    8 December 2016 08: 56
    Warriors, however. Leave no home, do not watch! recourse
    1. +1
      8 December 2016 09: 58
      Russia is the only country in the world who knows how to take big cities and who has enormous experience since the time of the Second World War. The States do not have it, hence the result ...
      1. +7
        8 December 2016 10: 20
        Quote: AlexTires
        Russia is the only country in the world who knows how to take big cities and who has enormous experience since the time of the Second World War. The States do not have it, hence the result ...

        Yeah, the Chechen company showed it. Americans during WWII islands took fortified. And study the history of the Allies and the Western Front, you will learn a lot of interesting things.
        1. +9
          8 December 2016 10: 46
          What kind of WWII? Write like in Russian, is it World War II or what? Or maybe the Amer’s played enough in toys? Ahh .. so they won this WWII, right? Ugh respect you !!!
        2. +9
          8 December 2016 11: 01
          Yeah, an example of fighting by a collapsed army five years before this collapsed country ... The Chechen company is above idiocy that can be imagined ..
          Americans during WWII islands took fortified.

          AND? Do you think that taking fortified islands where everything is shot through with heavy artillery and bombing is the same as taking / defending a city the size of Berlin / Stalingrad?
          Learn the history of the Allies and the Western Front, you will learn a lot of interesting things.

          I am not one of those who consider the Normandy and other landing operations the main battle of that war, since in terms of scale they only amounted to one operation of the Red Army on a particular sector of the front. And you don’t need to talk about the western front, when the most combat-ready divisions were in the east ... And if you tell me, how the allies were imposed near Dieppe and Arnhem ...
          1. 0
            9 December 2016 11: 34
            Quote: AlexTires
            fortified islands, where everything is shot by heavy artillery and bombing

            so the cities also shoot and bomb
            Quote: AlexTires
            I do not consider tighter Normandy and other landing operations as the main battle of that war
            and in the Pacific theater of operations? This is the second world.
            Quote: AlexTires
            how under Dieppe and under Arnhem the allies were spread ...

            well, "Suvali" and us in due time, remember the Vyazemskaya operation or the numerous boilers in 41, and gloating is useless here, people died for the same goals, on both sides of the front.
        3. +13
          8 December 2016 14: 42
          We saw how they took the islands laughing
        4. +2
          8 December 2016 22: 12
          You are absolutely right, the First Chechen proved that even the destroyed Yeltsin semi-army of 18-year-old boys, without having a numerical advantage, still took the city of Grozny in 1995 in the winter. And there was also the Second Chechen, in which the city of Grozny was already taken according to the charter with much better results.
          1. 0
            9 December 2016 09: 59
            Quote: cast iron
            You are absolutely right, the First Chechen proved that even the destroyed Yeltsin semi-army of 18-year-old boys, without having a numerical advantage, still took the city of Grozny in 1995 in the winter. And there was also the Second Chechen, in which the city of Grozny was already taken according to the charter with much better results.

            There were no 18-year-old boys in Chechnya. There were contract soldiers and explosives. The first one was lost, the pro-Russian opposition was profiled. The second was won only when the Chechen people changed their minds and stood on one side with you. Save fairy tales for your friends.
            1. 0
              9 December 2016 11: 09
              And you are your own tales for yours.
            2. 0
              9 December 2016 11: 19
              Quote: Floki
              There were no 18-year-old boys in Chechnya. There were contract soldiers and explosives.

              that means I talked with mirages .... the contrasts in the first war went only by May 1996, I saw their columns from the airport. And just 18 year old boys fought like that. By the way, in BB there was the same picture. About the second Chechen I agree with you only in one
              Quote: Floki
              Chechen people changed their minds and stood on one side with you

              it's true.
            3. 0
              9 December 2016 18: 34
              And if I prove that there were 18 year old recruits there, then will you put a million dollars on a card in a dream? Come on, get the lemon.

              I told you about the assault on the city by the half-dead Russian army of 1994-1995, and you transferred arrows to the war. Which means that you froze the unproven nonsense that the Russians can’t take well-fortified cities.
          2. 0
            9 December 2016 11: 24
            Quote: cast iron
            even the destroyed Yeltsin semi-army of 18-year-old boys, without having a numerical advantage, still took the city of Grozny

            I agree that I took it, I agree that the army was ruined and the untrained boys fought, but the generals, with two academies behind each, how did they plan the operation? Where is he this experience? What kind of blood was this storm. How much will the courage and blood of soldiers and officers leave?
            1. 0
              9 December 2016 18: 36
              And the generals were the same as the ministers in the 1994 government. Pasha Grachev is a reference careerist who laid down all the rules of warfare to serve his master Yeltsin.
        5. 0
          9 December 2016 11: 27
          And here is the Chechen company then ?! There, the army was simply betrayed and sold with penalties by our oligarchs, and even then, with all this mess, our fighters extinguished this scum so they were dragged more than once !!!!! There were times when art strikes were prohibited even outside the settlements, a ban on the use of combat aircraft, etc. They compared ...... And about these, as you say, Americans, a separate conversation altogether .... All of their military tactics are the tactics of the scorched desert, as their history indicates .... The USSR also used art strikes and aircraft when the storm of cities, but the question of preserving the cultural heritage of the city constantly hung in the air !!! And even the island to take even the most fortified to take much easier than the fortified city !! The USSR took Koenigsberg in 3 days ....
      2. 0
        9 December 2016 11: 21
        Quote: AlexTires
        who knows how to take big cities and who has colossal experience since WWII

        if someone else generalized and accumulated this experience, we are attacking the same rake from war to war.
        1. 0
          9 December 2016 18: 38
          Experience is summarized and applied. And the unprepared assault on Grozny in 1994-1995 is the result of the activities of careerists who were guided not by military goals, but by political or material ones.
          As far as I remember, in 1999 Grozny was taken in military science.
    2. +3
      8 December 2016 10: 59
      Western military science, it is so ... Science to win ... common sense.
      1. 0
        9 December 2016 10: 00
        Quote: abrakadabre
        Western military science, it is so ... Science to win ... common sense.

        There is at least science.
        1. 0
          9 December 2016 11: 08
          "What did you mean?
        2. 0
          9 December 2016 23: 02
          Well, the heroes have never won a war in one war.
  5. +7
    8 December 2016 09: 02
    Photos resemble the first assault on Grozny. Instead of systematic house-to-house squeezing of militants, Iraqis arrange excursions into boilers for themselves - so they will soon ditch their most combat-ready units.
    They also have interaction at the baseboard level, coalition aviation bombed out in the hospital already occupied by Iraqis instead of its environs (does someone have poor English?).
    1. +11
      8 December 2016 09: 12
      Well, the Iraqis themselves are to blame, they fell for the Americans, and raked to the very eyebrows. Greeks say "me opion daskalo ta katsis tetea gramata ta matis" -translate into Russian "with which teacher you sit, you will learn such letters (literacy).
      1. +2
        8 December 2016 09: 20
        Quote: parkello
        Well, the Iraqis themselves are to blame, they fell for the Americans, and raked to the very eyebrows. Greeks say "me opion daskalo ta katsis tetea gramata ta matis" -translate into Russian "with which teacher you sit, you will learn such letters (literacy).

        And we say: "With whom you will lead, so you need it!"
        1. +4
          8 December 2016 09: 26
          well, say it right Yes I would have treated the back of my head ...
    2. +2
      8 December 2016 09: 17
      Well, in Aleppo, the tactics of raids and outreach justifies itself. Here rather failures from what we had in Grozny. Not enough experience and led to a provocation. Yes, and probably the United States drive them forward.
      1. +3
        8 December 2016 09: 26
        Quote: AwaZ
        Well, in Aleppo, the tactics of raids and outreach justifies itself.

        There was no exact coverage there (on the part of government forces at least). The raid was - crowded after the stars as announced. What they wanted is incomprehensible.
      2. +2
        8 December 2016 09: 45
        Quote: AwaZ
        Well, in Aleppo, the tactics of raids and outreach justifies itself. Here rather failures from what we had in Grozny. Not enough experience and led to a provocation. Yes, and probably the United States drive them forward.
        Sorry, in Aleppo, a hodgepodge of many groups that periodically quarrel with each other, and in Mosul ISIS, which have the strictest discipline. Yes, and they are advancing on Mosul, the same Kurds, frankly with laziness, the main blows are received by the Iraqi army and Shiite punishers.
        1. +2
          8 December 2016 09: 49
          I say in general that the pressure in Aleppo is carried out by well-organized and coordinated actions. And raids like this are also there. Another thing is their execution. And so I agree with vvami
    3. +4
      8 December 2016 10: 27
      I correctly understood that the coalition had ruined another hospital.
    4. +1
      8 December 2016 14: 44
      Let's hope that the pin ... will have to harness ourselves and it will end for them with a likeness of Vietnam.
  6. +2
    8 December 2016 09: 02
    However, note that not one hedgehog ... in the sense, not a single non-combatant was injured.
    A miracle is wonderful, but his mother is marvelous.
    And from dashing raids in the style of "uhhh we have them now" in the absence of a sane command (and there now, as I understand it, according to the classics - "mixed ... horses, people", and everyone is in a hurry, it's clear why) no one is immune.
    Specialists, as usual, feel sorry.
    1. +10
      8 December 2016 09: 13
      Quote: g16.ru
      However, note that not one hedgehog ... in the sense, not a single non-combatant was injured.

      In fact, they bring down the peaceful people only on the road - they are afraid of suicide bombers.
      CNN has a report - about how their journalists, along with Iraqi special forces, received starships in Mosul.
      There is a complete set - they dumped the grandfather, the taxi driver, on the scooter of someone else, hiding behind the backs of civilians from the Ishilovites ...
      Full kapets in general.
      1. +1
        8 December 2016 09: 55
        Are IS militants not specifically shooting at civilians?
        1. +2
          8 December 2016 10: 07
          Quote: Alexander12
          Are IS militants not specifically shooting at civilians?

          Just when the Iraqi troops occupy the house in which an ordinary family lives and start firing from there, they unwillingly substitute civilians under bullets.
  7. +2
    8 December 2016 09: 05
    there was infa that the Ishilov’s suicide bombers initially attacked, and then the defeat was completed just by the aircraft, as if they were bombed by this very hospital, where the special forces were sitting.

    What, ISIS aviation appeared? Where did the firewood come from?
    1. +2
      8 December 2016 09: 13
      Just mattresses bombed. Yesterday I heard it too
    2. +1
      8 December 2016 09: 18
      Well, they already know that the United States bombed the hospital. This hospital turned out to be along the way ...
    3. +8
      8 December 2016 13: 34
      Quote: Rostislav
      What, ISIS aviation appeared? Where did the firewood come from?

      In Syria, they have this one:
  8. 0
    8 December 2016 09: 22
    Iraqis have serious losses in battles for Mosul

  9. +1
    8 December 2016 09: 22
    There is also a video


    to help those around, “elite formations of special forces and armored vehicles were thrown,” coalition aviation dealt several attacks on the terrorists. “Thanks to this, it was possible to evacuate the wounded and damaged armored vehicles from the hospital. At the same time, the exit was carried out under the fire of snipers and grenade launchers ”

    1. +2
      8 December 2016 14: 31
      Are they attacking the Humvee? O_O
  10. +7
    8 December 2016 09: 27
    At this rate of "liberation" of Mosul, they will be in time for the next elections in America. Yes sad
  11. +3
    8 December 2016 09: 43
    Barmaley are quick learners. Unlike Aleppo, the tactic of "cutting" the defense areas in Mosul ran into "counter-tactics", with the cutting off of the grabbing paws.
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  12. +7
    8 December 2016 09: 48
    Somewhere we have all seen it. And more than once and not two. The history of war is also a kind of demonstration of trampling on a rake. Go into the city with a mechanized column without cover ... Well, in a war, a military trick is not meanness, but it must be flattered. The caliphate should be noted, approached the matter quite professionally. I would also like to note the enchanting handshake of the US Air Force, they’ll either spread the hospital, the excavator, or they’ll trample in their own way ... It feels like they ignore pre-flight briefings altogether, and when they hit them, they stupidly beat on the first target that is located in the operation zone ...
    1. +9
      8 December 2016 10: 03
      Coalition Air Force worked out exemplary and most importantly expeditiously.

      Initially, the Shiite militia strike group and the battalion of the Golden Division went to the hospital virtually without a fight.

      At the hospital they were met with stiff resistance, they stood up (this area is packed with equipment - which they looked for shelter and parked for the night - this is like the second line).

      By morning, the requested reinforcements ran into ATGMs and guided landmines laid under the canvas.

      The command understood that was all. It is necessary to pull people out (and maybe against this background spontaneous flight and leaving everything happened) - a breakthrough to one's own has begun. And without technology. Only one abrams and heels of Humvee left.


      They were again waiting for flanking fire and landmines under the canvas.

      On the square at the hospital was 12-14 BMP in good condition, a bunch of humvee. They needed to be destroyed, even if there were 100500 babies with American flags hanging out in the square.

      They immediately as the failure became clear, raised the aircraft and bombed the equipment. As a result, the broads got only the rifle, equipment, machine guns, and 76mm shots, and not working equipment.

      In a similar situation, in the same Latakia, when 2 infantry fighting vehicles and 6 T-62 - VKS flew into the broads from the village the next day.
      1. +6
        8 December 2016 11: 27
        Quote: donavi49
        Coalition Air Force worked out exemplary and, most importantly, they quickly raised planes and bombed equipment. As a result, the broads got only the rifle, equipment, machine guns, and 76mm shots, and not working equipment.

        C'mon, you suggest me not to believe your eyes? In the video, I see a bunch of BMPs and Hamers, most of which are a little pokotsat but quite quickly repair, most of the BMPs are likely to have glass and wheels broken by the Hamers, under one pool of antifreeze, I don’t see anything deadly. In short, Iraqis threw black equipment for conversion into shahidmobiles and it is in much better condition than that antiquity with exhausted motor resources that the women usually stuff with explosives.
      2. +1
        8 December 2016 14: 33
        ATGMs? Yah? Maybe an RPG?
  13. +3
    8 December 2016 09: 57
    Here it is written in more detail in the article "How not to fight". http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3115612.html

    units of the army special forces and Shiite police, tried to advance in the southeastern neighborhoods of Mosul, reached the Salam hospital and occupied it. Then they were waiting for them. The mechanized convoy was attacked by shahid mobiles, four of them reached the Iraqi positions and exploded, after which the Caliphate infantry launched an attack. Survivors of the explosions, which destroyed part of the equipment, entered the hospital building and called for air support. American planes flew in and dropped bombs on the hospital grounds, where the Iraqis defended.


    As a result, they lost between 15 and 20 pieces of equipment (Humvi, infantry fighting vehicles, armored bulldozer) and from 90 to 250 killed, wounded and captured, destroyed and captured by the Caliphate. The remains of the combined assault group retreated back to the outskirts of the city.
  14. +4
    8 December 2016 10: 31
    It looks like the leaders of the operation acted one-on-one according to the script of the Hollywood movie "Black Hawk Down". We just decided to try again on the Iraqis. Here is a movie.
  15. +3
    8 December 2016 10: 52
    The Iraqi Shiite army has few reliable combat units. Prepared
    only individual battalions. Shiite police (including Hezbollah’s Iraqi branch)
    they’re afraid of connecting to fights inside the city - they are atrocious, and the locals enter
    in ISIS.
    I think the Americans will have to bring their infantry units to take the city.
    1. +2
      8 December 2016 11: 23
      Quote: voyaka uh
      I think the Americans will have to bring their infantry units to take the city.

      This will be the moment of truth, but will it be necessary for the Yankees in principle? There, after all, everyone is busy to the neck, Sunnis, Shiites, Kurds of all stripes with the Turks .... divide and rule .. both parts work perfectly.
    2. +5
      8 December 2016 13: 36
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Shiite police (including Hezbollah’s Iraqi branch)
      they’re afraid of connecting to fights inside the city - they are atrocious, and the locals enter
      in ISIS.

      And who is not there atrocities? Are Kurds quietly kicking Arabs? Moreover, the Shiites from the time of Saddam have a reason.
      Do not drag Hezbollah. There is an ordinary and no less terrible civil war.

      What is happening in Iraq right now is trash from American politics. They set up their government as soon as more or less democratic elections are held, Shiites become a majority everywhere, which is logical in principle, and shooting and dancing begin again.
      Why is it so difficult to understand that in this place dictatorship is normal? Just like Harrison, if in this society it’s ethical to kill a neighbor by a bucket of potatoes, then you don’t need to go outside to judge.
    3. +2
      8 December 2016 14: 48
      I think the Americans will have to bring their infantry units to take the city.

      And I hope so, history has shown: until the yaneks are washed with blood they will not fall down with might and main.
    4. +5
      8 December 2016 15: 59
      Help the American brothers. They’ve got some money for you and the soldiers didn’t spare. They overthrew your enemy Saddam, Gaddafi, they nearly removed Assad. And then sit and get clever in the internet
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Iraqi Shiite army has few reliable combat units. Prepared
      only individual battalions. Shiite police (including Hezbollah’s Iraqi branch)
      they’re afraid of connecting to fights inside the city - they are atrocious, and the locals enter
      in ISIS.
      I think the Americans will have to bring their infantry units to take the city.
  16. +1
    8 December 2016 13: 00
    These guys were specifically assigned to kill ....
  17. +1
    8 December 2016 13: 47
    Quote: qwert789as
    I wonder where was John Rambo? what

    On the eve of the great schucher washed away laughing Although maybe he was a spotter ?????
  18. +1
    8 December 2016 13: 55
    Hurry - you make people laugh. In this case, it turned out to be no laughing matter. Damn! Here over the past hundred years, how many battles were there for mastering the city? Experience has been studied and tactics worked out. No, damn it, they decided to freebies. Well, we got cuffs. We washed ourselves with bloody snot.
    The fool, as they say, is taught painfully.
  19. +2
    8 December 2016 19: 17
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    the same Kurds, frankly with laziness,

    Kurds were forbidden to enter Mosul strictly. They themselves do not really need it either. Here the features of the varied coalition of Glavnyuk play here: the Kurds cannot adjoin the Turks, and cannot / should not enter the Sunni settlements, the latter is also undesirable for the Shiite police. And all together, including with the US drone operator in the United States, must complete a single combat mission! However, even closer allies, like Italians and Romanians with Germans near Stalingrad, were in great claims to each other! And here is such a ball of snakes!
  20. +1
    8 December 2016 20: 31
    Quote: qwert789as
    I wonder where was John Rambo? what

    He was on Kilimanjaro. He destroyed aliens from outer space, freeing mankind from the invasion.
  21. +2
    8 December 2016 20: 35
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The Iraqi Shiite army has few reliable combat units. Prepared
    only individual battalions. Shiite police (including Hezbollah’s Iraqi branch)
    they’re afraid of connecting to fights inside the city - they are atrocious, and the locals enter
    in ISIS.
    I think the Americans will have to bring their infantry units to take the city.

    If we turn to history, then the Americans opened a second front in Europe for 3 years. I wonder how much time will it take now?
  22. +1
    8 December 2016 20: 50
    Quote: Floki
    Quote: AlexTires
    Russia is the only country in the world who knows how to take big cities and who has enormous experience since the time of the Second World War. The States do not have it, hence the result ...

    Yeah, the Chechen company showed it. Americans during WWII islands took fortified. And study the history of the Allies and the Western Front, you will learn a lot of interesting things.

    I searched. Found a massacre in the Ardennes. Where else were our allies so different? When were the guns of the island of Navaron destroyed?
  23. 0
    9 December 2016 11: 09
    Oh, our beatamps are a pity ...