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Foreign assessments of Russian weapons and military equipment always arouse a certain interest. Often, publications on this topic are created taking into account current political trends, which leads to a biased attitude to the objects under consideration. Nevertheless, other articles of foreign publications look objective. Anyway, regardless of the position of the authors and other aspects, such publications are worth the attention of readers. They allow you to see the current features of the situation, as well as demonstrate the interest of foreign experts and authors in Russian weapons and equipment.

One of these interesting articles was published on December 4 by the American publication The National Interest. In the Buzz section, Sebastian Roblin’s material entitled “This Russian Nuclear Submarine Has a Very Special Mission: Kill American Aircraft Carriers” was published (“This Russian nuclear submarine has a special task: to destroy American aircraft carriers”). The topic of the publication with such a menacing title was the nuclear submarines of projects 949 "Granite" and 949A "Antei", which are one of the main "hunters" in the naval fleet Russia.



At the beginning of his article, the American author recalls history Submarine projects of the 949 family. The huge boats of this project, which has the Russian designation 949 "Granit" and 949A "Antey", as well as the NATO code Oscar-class, were developed during the Cold War. New submarines had a specific goal: the hunt for American aircraft carriers, which are the basis of the strike power of the naval forces of the United States. Submarines of new types were to search and destroy the ships of a potential enemy.

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As part of the 949 project, some features of the American strategy were taken into account. Each US aircraft carrier works in the so-called. carrier strike group, which besides it includes several other ships for various purposes. Some of these ships are intended for anti-submarine defense: they must find and destroy the approaching enemy submarines. This feature of carrier groups forces offensive submarines to keep a safe distance.

For this reason, the Soviet Oscars were to use not torpedo weapons, but anti-ship cruise missiles, capable of destroying surface targets at ranges of hundreds of miles, as the main strike weapons. S. Roblin notes that the missiles for submarines of 949 / 949 projects, as well as their carriers, are large.

The author notes that submarines with cruise missiles (SSG and SSGN in the American classification) were not an original concept at the time of the development of the Granit project. The first submarines of this designation, in the armament complex of which cruise missiles were introduced, were built on the basis of existing ships as early as the fifties of the last century. In 1961, the Soviet Union incorporated the Echo-class type head submarine (K-45 of the 659 project) into the fleet - this was the first submarine, the main weapons which were cruise missiles.

Work on the creation of the third generation nuclear submarine project 949 "Granit" started in the mid-seventies of the last century. The project envisaged the use of the standard for the Soviet military shipbuilding double-shell scheme: all the main compartments and units were placed inside a robust hull, outside covered with a light streamlined hull. The distance between the hulls in different parts of the sub varies from 2 inches to 6 feet. Large submarine received the appropriate power plant. With the help of two nuclear reactors 73 MW of electricity was generated. The crew of hundreds of people was located in nine or ten compartments (depending on the project version) of a solid hull, divided by hermetic bulkheads.

According to S. Robblin, the size of the submarine Oscar-class is fully consistent with its heavy and powerful weapons. The submarine has a length of one and a half football fields (154 m), in its surface position its displacement reaches 12,5 thousand tons. Such parameters make the submarine of the 949 / 949А project the fourth largest among all submarines under construction. Despite its large size, the submarine reaches speeds up to 37 knots and can sink to depths up to 500 m. At the same time, it is believed that Soviet / Russian submarines with cruise missiles slowly sink and float, and also do not have high maneuverability.

The main objective of the 949 / 949А submarines is the transportation and launch of the Granit P-700 anti-ship cruise missiles (SS-N-19 according to NATO classification). On the underwater "platform" placed 24 launchers for such weapons. Rockets of the “Granit” type have a length of about 10 m and a starting weight of the order of 8 t. Such a weapon can be launched from a submerged position at a distance of up to 400 miles from the target. The rocket’s launch and exit from the launcher are carried out using a solid-fuel engine, the P-700 product uses a ramjet jet engine on the cruise flight (here the American author made a serious mistake: the Granit rocket is equipped with a short-life turbojet power plant).

Depending on the height of the flight, the rocket accelerates to M = 2,5. Rocket guidance is carried out using satellite navigation. When launched simultaneously, several P-700 missiles can communicate with each other, exchange information and coordinate the attack. It is possible to equip the missile with a special warhead with an 500 CT.

S. Robblin reminds that in addition to the Antey type submarines, carriers of the Granit missiles are the 1144 (Kirov-class) heavy nuclear missile cruisers, as well as the Admiral of the Soviet Navy Kuznetsov aircraft carrying cruiser. However, unlike submarines, surface ships with missile weapons are more visible to the enemy and, as a result, cannot secretly enter the launch area. The submarines of the 949 / 949А project, in turn, can launch rockets from a submerged position, almost without risk of becoming the target of a retaliatory strike.

Oscar-class submarines also do not lack a short-range weapon. NPS of this type carry four standard 533-mm torpedo tubes suitable for firing torpedoes of all available types of the corresponding caliber. Also, these devices can be used as launchers of the missile complex RPK-2 "Blizzard" (SS-N-15 Starfish). In addition, the submarines are equipped with two torpedo tubes caliber 650 mm. Together with torpedoes, these systems can use anti-submarine missiles from the RPK-6M Vodopad complex (SS-N-16 Stallion). Missile-torpedo complexes, according to the author of The National Interest, can hit enemy submarines at distances up to 63 miles. Missiles can be equipped with torpedoes with a conventional or special warhead or depth bombs of the required type.

S. Robin told about the construction process and the introduction of various submarines of the 949 family into the Navy. According to the initial project, the K-525 "Arkhangelsk" and K-206 "Murmansk" boats were built. The construction of these ships began in the late seventies, in 1980-82, they were handed over to the customer. Then the construction of submarines of the renewed project 949A "Antey" (Oscar II) was launched. From 1982 to 1996, the Russian Navy received 11 of such ships. From the 949 “Granit” submarines, the new “Antey” differed in the increased hull length, the updated composition of the onboard radio-electronic equipment and the new propellers with seven blades (four-blade propellers were previously used).

In 1992-94, the Russian shipbuilding plant laid three more submarines, however, they were never completed and handed over to the customer. By the time of the termination of active work, one or another part of their construction was completed.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Russian navy focused on preserving the fleet of existing Oscars through the timely maintenance and repair of equipment. In addition, the submarines continued to keep watch and conduct patrols of specified areas of the oceans, searching for ship groups of a potential enemy. In 1999, a specific incident occurred during the course of such work. One of the submarines located near the territorial waters of Spain, cut off the network of a local fishing vessel.

Auto Edition The National Interest reminds that the submarines of the 949 "Granit" and 949A "Antey" projects, like all post-war submarines, have never participated in real combat operations. However, he is forced to admit that training activities can also be associated with high risk. One of the tragic pages in the history of the Russian fleet is connected with the submarine of the Antey project.

12 August 2000 on board the Kursk submarine K-141, which participated in the exercises in the Barents Sea, an explosion of 3-7 t in trotyl equivalent occurred. From 118, crew members before 23 were able to hide in the stern compartment of the ship, but the rescuers did not have time to help them. An investigation into the causes of the tragedy revealed that the likely cause of the first explosion in the nose compartment was hydrogen leakage from 650-mm torpedoes. The explosion of the first torpedo led to the detonation of combat units of other similar ammunition. According to other assumptions, the cause of the explosion could be insufficient crew training.

Another incident, mentioned by S. Robin, happened on 7 last April. At this time, the submarine K-266 "Orel" was under repair in the dry dock of the enterprise "Zvezdochka" (Severodvinsk). During welding, there was an ignition of the seal, which is located between a strong and light body. Armament and nuclear fuel on board were absent, the fire was extinguished without significant difficulty. Subsequently, all damaged units were repaired and ship repair continued.

At the moment, according to the calculations of the author of the article, seven or eight submarines of the Oscar II type serve as part of the Northern and Pacific fleets of the Russian Navy. In the future, these ships will be replaced by the newest nuclear submarines of the 885 “Ash” project, but only the main boat of this type, the K-560 “Severodvinsk”, has been completed and transferred to the fleet. Thus, the complete rearmament of submarine forces is a matter of the distant future.

In the current plans of Russia there is a modernization of at least three 949A “Antey” type submarines according to the 949AM project. At least three boats available by the year 2020 will be reequipped in order to improve the basic characteristics and combat capabilities. The cost of such work is estimated at 180 million dollars for each submarine. The main innovation of the modernization project is to replace the P-700 Granit missiles with newer Onyx and Club / Caliber missiles. After such a modernization, the ammunition of strike weapons will increase to 72 cruise missiles. In addition to weapons, it is planned to replace the means of detection, data processing and control, as well as other elements of the airborne equipment.

S. Roblin concludes his article “This Russian Nuclear Submarine Has a Very Special Mission: Kill American Aircraft Carriers” with the following conclusion. Nuclear-powered submarines of the Oscar II type are no longer "on the forefront of the secretive underwater technology." In this case, however, they can remain an effective component of the Navy. "Antey" retain the ability to defeat enemy surface ships with anti-ship long-range cruise missiles.

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In general, the next review of the sample of Russian military equipment, made by the American edition of The National Interest, looks interesting and objective. At the same time, it was not without some serious mistakes. For example, the information provided on the P-700 Granit missiles is seriously different from the real state of affairs. Missiles of this type have a turbojet propulsion engine, rather than a direct-flow engine, called S. Robin. In addition, instead of satellite navigation, the Granites use an inertial system and active radar homing heads. It can also be recalled that in practice, mass launches of missiles with automated distribution of targets, etc. never implemented.

It should be noted that, in accordance with the traditions of the publication, the article received the loud title “This Russian Nuclear Submarine Has a Very Special Mission: Kill American Aircraft Carriers”, which from certain points of view can be interpreted as a hint of one of the most current foreign concepts - “Russian aggression ". Nevertheless, we should not forget that The National Interest has its own traditions: publications in the Buzz category rarely do without a loud or even provocative headline that covers current topics.

Under the screaming title often lies an article that does not differ in excessive tendentiousness and is not based on dubious, albeit “politically correct”, theses. The same happened with the recent publication of Russian submarines. Sebastian Robin told readers about the history, capabilities and current status of the submarine equipment of the Russian fleet. The American author left the right to draw the necessary conclusions and predict the further development of events to the readers.


The article "This Russian Nuclear Submarine Has a Very Special Mission: Kill American Aircraft Carriers":
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russian-nuclear-submarine-has-very-special-mission-kill-18594
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  1. +4
    8 December 2016 07: 56
    Surprised by an article in NI / Usually their articles are less objective
    1. 0
      8 December 2016 20: 15
      Quote: Old26
      Surprised by an article in NI / Usually their articles are less objective


      No wonder - reprint from Wikipedia
  2. +1
    8 December 2016 08: 02
    Specifically, the missiles themselves do not use satellite guidance, but the target location area is determined precisely by satellites, because the capabilities of the submarine itself are limited in this regard.
    You can also recall that in practice, mass launches of missiles with automated target distribution, etc. never been implemented.

    But, nevertheless, this is exactly what is built on - rockets reach a given area and already there they independently search for a target.
    1. +3
      8 December 2016 10: 40
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Specifically, the missiles themselves do not use satellite guidance, but the target location area is determined precisely by satellites, because the capabilities of the submarine itself are limited in this regard.

      That's right, only what are our current satellite intelligence capabilities in terms of tracking AUGs and issuing target designation for RCC?
      1. +3
        8 December 2016 11: 34
        Quote: Bongo
        That's right, only what are our current satellite intelligence capabilities in terms of tracking AUGs and issuing target designation for RCC?

        Under Yeltsin, all possibilities burned out in the dense layers of the atmosphere. Under Putin, a new system has already been launched - "Liana" is called and it is slowly being built up, how many satellites there are now, I do not know, but the fact that their orbit is higher than that of the old ones is for sure, so they need less.
        Four radar reconnaissance satellites launched accurately and it is alleged that they provide full coverage, and they work not only on water, but also on land and air.
        1. +1
          8 December 2016 11: 40
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Under Yeltsin, all possibilities burned out in the dense layers of the atmosphere. Under Putin, a new system has already been launched - "Liana" is called

          I didn’t just ask you a question.
          Quote: Gray Brother
          how many satellites are there now, I don’t know, but the fact that their orbit is higher than that of the old is for sure, so they need less.

          If you were not in a hurry to answer me, you would know their number. Now in orbit one Lotus-C, and even for the limited functioning of the system, this is absolutely not enough. No.
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Four radar reconnaissance satellites launched accurately and it is alleged that they provide full coverage, and they work not only on water, but also on land and air.

          Is it possible by launch dates and satellite types and what is their status?
          1. +1
            8 December 2016 12: 02
            Quote: Bongo
            Is it possible by launch dates and satellite types?

            There, at least, "Peonies" more. Two "Lotos" and two "Peonies" - the first is electronic intelligence, and the second is radar.
            By dates and quantity it is difficult to say anything at all, they usually say that "a military apparatus has been launched" and think what you want.
            According to plans, they were going to finally form a group by 2018.
            1. +3
              8 December 2016 12: 15
              Quote: Gray Brother
              There, at least, "Peonies" more. Two "Lotos" and two "Peonies" - the first is electronic intelligence, and the second is radar.

              Only two "Lotus-S" are known. The first was a simplified test sample and also had problems with it. It is now unusable. Those. we have in orbit one satellite RTR + 2 radar "Pion-NKS". There are certain doubts about the fact that both are fully operational Pion-NKS. In total, we have, in the best case, 3 satellites capable of tracking the AUG. Arithmetic problem for class 1, knowing the number of satellites and aircraft carriers in the US Navy, do we have enough satellites to track aircraft carriers and issue target designations to counter them?
              1. +4
                8 December 2016 12: 26
                Quote: Bongo
                There are certain doubts about the fact that both are fully operational Pion-NKS

                Nevertheless, these satellites are in serial production at the Arsenal plant in St. Petersburg, at the latest, since last year.
                I don’t understand how it is possible to judge an orbital group if its quantitative composition has not been disclosed and all available information on this subject has already grown into a huge beard.
                1. +1
                  8 December 2016 12: 37
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  Nevertheless, these satellites are in serial production at the Arsenal plant in St. Petersburg, at the latest, since last year.

                  Yes, and information on this is in the public domain, as all our enterprises are in private hands. But I would not dare call a series of several assembled devices.
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  I don’t understand how it is possible to judge an orbital group if its quantitative composition has not been disclosed and all available information on this subject has already grown into a huge beard.

                  She has acquired a beard, that's for sure, but apart from the "beard" there is no other news. You probably forgot what world we live in? Sincerely you think that this can be hidden, and we alone have the means of electronic reconnaissance and tracking objects in orbit? If it is more pleasant for you to believe that the armada of our satellites is watching the ocean expanses - who can prevent you from doing this?
              2. 0
                8 December 2016 12: 41
                Quote: Bongo
                . The task of arithmetic for class 1, knowing the number of satellites and aircraft carriers in the US Navy, do we have enough satellites to track aircraft carriers and give target designation to combat them?

                If we take into account that the satellites are at an altitude of the order of 1000 km, then each of them should cover a strip approximately 4 thousand km wide. A lot.
                1. +1
                  8 December 2016 12: 51
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  If we take into account that the satellites are at an altitude of the order of 1000 km, then each of them should cover a strip approximately 4 thousand km wide. A lot.

                  Please also calculate the necessary radar power in a pulse and the power of a power plant in order to get an acceptable radar picture from such a distance.
                  1. 0
                    8 December 2016 12: 59
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Please also calculate the necessary radar power in a pulse and the power of a power plant in order to get an acceptable radar picture from such a distance.

                    No, it's too complicated for me, besides the radar in space is located ...
                    And "Lotus" generally works in a passive mode - by radio.
                    1. +1
                      8 December 2016 13: 43
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      No, it's too complicated for me, besides the radar in space is located ...

                      These satellites are in low orbit (270 km), since the radar requires as close as possible to the observed objects, and therefore a low orbit.
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      And "Lotus" generally works in a passive mode - by radio.

                      I do not know what a "radio appearance" is request There is a "radar portrait" or a set of characteristics of radio frequency radiation. But the RTR satellites do not fly high either.
                      Quote: Gray Brother
                      Damn, it’s wrong, 4 thousand is the distance to the horizon, the bandwidth then 8 thousand will be.

                      No reconnaissance satellite has such a field of view.
                      1. 0
                        8 December 2016 13: 54
                        Quote: Bongo
                        These satellites are in low orbit (270 km)

                        This "Legend" was at such a height. It all depends on the capabilities of the radar, about "Liana" they write everywhere that the orbit height is in the region of 1000 km.
                  2. 0
                    11 December 2016 23: 10
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    If we take into account that the satellites are at an altitude of the order of 1000 km, then each of them should cover a strip approximately 4 thousand km wide. A lot.

                    Please also calculate the necessary radar power in a pulse and the power of a power plant in order to get an acceptable radar picture from such a distance.



                    Everything is not working there now.

                    There was an article on Top Vor ru about the liana -

                    It was the old Soviet system. Legend had the need for powerful locators - therefore, and if I am not mistaken, the nuclear installation on board

                    Liana works differently. Another thing is that there are few of them yet - that is, we are waiting for all the satellites to launch - but for now, the possibilities of Anteyev against AUG are probably limited

                    Secondly, I’m sure that they are working on a parallel guidance system - perhaps with drones or naval aviation - those new - old Ilami
                2. 0
                  8 December 2016 12: 52
                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  cover a strip with a width of about 4 thousand km. A lot.

                  Damn, it’s wrong, 4 thousand is the distance to the horizon, the bandwidth then 8 thousand will be.
              3. 0
                15 December 2016 10: 54
                > Arithmetic problem for class 1, knowing the number of satellites and aircraft carriers in the US Navy do we have enough tracking satellites for aircraft carriers

                oddly enough, the beginnings of arithmetic are in matanalysis. So with your question - to keep track of, say, a hundred aircraft carriers, there is no need to have a hundred satellites if all these aircraft carriers are in the satellite’s observation area.

                Unknowingly, or for trolling for the sake of, or simply from the principle of compulsory struggle with any assumption that everything is not very bad, considering the issue, you forgot about the orbit and satellite observation zones, which is more than essential.
          2. 0
            8 December 2016 20: 20
            Quote: Bongo
            Is it possible by launch dates and satellite types and what is their status?


            And you, forgive, for what purpose are you interested?
            1. +2
              9 December 2016 08: 29
              Quote: Titsen
              And you, forgive, for what purpose are you interested?

              Seryozha already knows this, especially since he had a publication on this topic. But "Gray" apparently does not.
        2. 0
          8 December 2016 12: 40
          Only the Tu-141 RC remained. In the future, they will be replaced or supplemented by UAVs and lianas.
          1. +2
            8 December 2016 12: 53
            Quote: Zaurbek
            Only the Tu-141 RC remained. In the future, they will be replaced or supplemented by UAVs and lianas.

            Tu-142 are anti-submarine aircraft and very few remain in service. Long-range reconnaissance and target designation aircraft Tu-95РЦ were decommissioned in the middle of the 90-x.
  3. +4
    8 December 2016 08: 09
    Quote: Gray Brother
    But, nevertheless, this is exactly what is built on - rockets reach a given area and already there they independently search for a target.

    You wrote it absolutely correctly. SELF search for targets. And not with automatic distribution or as the bike usually goes - they exchange information. At least those who served for them do not confirm this. The launch of the entire BC is carried out so that all the missile launchers are lined up "in line", covering as much space as possible along the front. But again, according to the servants, they never fired a full ammo. Although some of them have 3-4 BSs.
    1. +2
      8 December 2016 08: 31
      Quote: Old26
      And not with automatic distribution or as the bike usually goes - exchange information.

      But in general, there is some exchange, if it is not pressed, of course, if one of the missiles has captured the target, and the second is not a fig, then the first becomes the older one :-)
      In addition, the behavior algorithm can be different - you can prioritize the largest target or, on the contrary, try to hit as many targets as possible.
      Or if there is a missile with an NBC in the salvo, then it certainly will not smell the first, because then it will come to the rest of the khan.
      These are all people with big stars who say there is no reason not to believe them.
      1. 0
        8 December 2016 08: 35
        IMHO, at training firing, all this is not necessary, because there is a standard target barge ONE and there is nothing more.
  4. cap
    +1
    8 December 2016 08: 49
    The American author left the right to draw the necessary conclusions and predict the further development of events to readers.

    But one conclusion is do not bother people live and you will be happy.
    And about this boat there is a good movie in YouTube. It’s worth a look.
    Or shorter here.
  5. +2
    8 December 2016 10: 37
    For example, the information on P-700 Granit missiles is seriously different from the real situation. Missiles of this type have a turbojet marching engine, and not a direct-flow one, called S. Roblin.
    It is unlikely that he is wrong, "Granite" with a ramjet engine is a variant of a rocket with a ramjet engine 4D04 developed by NPO Krasny Oktyabr (OKB-670 of General Designer MM Bondaryuk).
    Flight speed - up to 4M, and this served to the development of Yakhont (aka Onyx) with ramjet
    1. 0
      8 December 2016 11: 19
      on the picture ordinary granite with turbojet engine, with pvrd 3m-45 no
      1. +2
        8 December 2016 16: 43
        in the picture there is a lower rocket with ramjet, the cone of the air intake regulator is recessed, well, onyx, on the same as Yakhont, it’s Brahmos, click, find the difference
  6. +1
    8 December 2016 10: 40
    in the surface position, its displacement reaches 12,5 tons.

    Of course, 12,5 thousand tons
    1. +2
      8 December 2016 11: 22
      comrade underestimated a little, the surface is -14800 tone
  7. 0
    8 December 2016 13: 32
    but it’s not surprising that a number of technical characteristics of the submarine and its armaments are kept secret, and they are still very well classified, because you can’t indulge in objectivity, they’ve been blinded from what they got, but on the whole it’s good ...
  8. +2
    8 December 2016 14: 59

    Quote: Gray Brother
    This "Legend" was at such a height. It all depends on the capabilities of the radar, about "Liana" they write everywhere that the orbit height is in the region of 1000 km.

    Do you remember what kind of power plant was on the US-A active intelligence satellite, or have the laws of physics changed since then?
    1. 0
      8 December 2016 16: 21
      Quote: Bongo
      Do you remember which power plant was on the US-A active intelligence satellite

      The nuclear reactor was there and lasted for a maximum of six months. Power in the region from 3 to 6 kW, a bit in general.
      1. +4
        8 December 2016 19: 31
        Scushon you Brother! The power of the US-A radar in a pulse was 1x0 kW, in an orbit of about 200 km. I was very familiar with products 4E-39 ("Seagull") and 4E-54 ("Dolphin"). So there is no need to "crack", there are no full-fledged target designation systems in Russia, and it is not known when they will appear. Without that, all these "aircraft carrier killers" are full of seams. And the concept of conducting offensive operations with the help of the AUG at the United States has changed a long time ago. Do not consume "noodles" from the RF Ministry of Defense + other countries (and the magazines attached to them) about the danger to our borders from the US AUG. If only DV does not think about breaking away.
        A.
        1. +1
          9 December 2016 11: 40
          Quote: AB0877
          Skoucheon you Brother! Power radar US-A in the pulse was 1x0 kW

          I don’t need to poke, you and I did not bite seeds in the market.
          And learn, finally, to distinguish the electrical power of a power plant from the power of a radio pulse.
  9. +1
    8 December 2016 20: 52
    In fact, the Granites were modernized, as reported in connection with their recent shooting on the shore. And now they have AND (!) Satellite navigation for shooting at STATIONARY objects. Actually, they shot at the militants in Syria.
    1. +3
      8 December 2016 21: 13
      Don't you really understand the difference between satellite navigation and target designation systems? P-700 on land targets as "from a cannon to sparrows", i.e. for the amusement of "teletouched" and other illiterate "hurray-patriots".
      A.
  10. +2
    8 December 2016 21: 15
    Quote: Philip Staros
    In fact, the Granites were modernized, as reported in connection with their recent shooting on the shore. And now they have AND (!) Satellite navigation for shooting at STATIONARY objects. Actually, they shot at the militants in Syria.

    On fighters in Syria shot back "ONYX"... Chito touches the Granites. "GRANITS" in Syria were not used at all. In order to have satellite navigation, a grouping of targeting satellites is necessary. Unfortunately, she’s not yet
  11. +2
    9 December 2016 07: 42
    I’ve heard about satellite guidance for the first time. Inertia and astronautical navigation on marching everywhere, radar on the impact path. On the latest versions, they’ve also used the thermo-optical profile of the target. They’ve never hoped for satellites, they’ll kill them first. online.
  12. -1
    14 February 2017 09: 13
    Quote: Gray Brother
    I don’t understand how it is possible to judge an orbital group if its quantitative composition has not been disclosed and all available information on this subject has already grown into a huge beard.

    You can judge very simply if you initially assume that everything is bad with us.
    Under this barrel organ you can customize anything, any news.
    Go check it out.

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