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How to look for spy UAV in Voronezh

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Some might think it was made up. history or frank Hochma. But the story is made up of the narrations of two people who are at a fair distance from each other and could in no way contact. I am sure that they do not know about the existence of each other. When I listened to the first, then frankly had fun. An army without insanity is like sex without orgasm, this is a generally known postulate. But when in two weeks I heard the second part, I confess I scratched where I think.


So, it happened, as you already understood, in Voronezh. And in two places. In VUZTS VVS VVA named after Zhukovsky and Gagarin and in the Voronezh Military Aviation Engineering Institute.

These two institutions are located in different parts of the city and even on the opposite banks of the river. That did not prevent to become participants in this story.

It all began in the second half of November, when, thanks to a report from a staff member or officer, the leadership of VUNC learned that UAVs regularly fly over the territory of the center. Naturally, the aims and belonging of the apparatus can and should be interpreted as hostile.

Who is this super alert man is a mystery, naturally. But many in schools would pay dearly for this secret to be ajar.

The Academy stood on the ears.

This has not happened in all of history.

There were hastily organized posts VNOS - aerial surveillance, warning and communication. The term, of course, is taken from the times of the Great Patriotic War, but the essence is similar. On the roofs of the buildings were placed posts, armed with optical surveillance devices. That is binoculars.

Dozens of eyes searched the gloomy November sky, trying to locate this drone. And, most interestingly, found. By the end of the first three days of trawling, it became clear that spy UAVs are just clouds (for 4-5 pieces per day) hover around the territory of VUNC VVA. Naturally, trying to find out something or make some other dirty trick.

And then, next to the observers on the roofs, the gunners took up fighting positions!

From among the listeners and cadets who have in possession of hunting weapon, an air defense team was formed, the task of which, when detecting a UAV, was to knock it down using a fraction or a canister.

Well, that is not from the machines decided to shoot down ...

By the end of the fourth day, it became clear that the spies launching the UAV were either very professional or the drone cameras had spotted the shooters. Because there were no results.

Shooters from the roofs removed.

But someone had a no less ingenious idea. And why not plow modern technologies? In the end, we have 21 century in the yard, or what?

And to fight the drone were rebuffed EW ...

Honestly, I really wanted to know about this epic from the Rebers, but alas, after the previous article about VUZC, they’ve avoided me a bit.

Nevertheless, it is obvious that a plan was drawn up to work out the available EW systems for drones.

Worked out.

And so qualitatively, that on the second day, residents of nearby houses, who were left without mobile communications, radio and television, howled.

In general, the rebovtsi worked really high quality, in fact covering the entire territory of VUNC with a dome. But there are a few old houses that stand very close to the territory. Naturally, I made a sortie there one day. In the house, of course, not in the VUZ.

One of the local residents painted me all this colorfully. Do not hesitate in expressions, for maneuvers maneuvers, as she indignantly stated to me, and the series - the series. Why she should live like in a cave, she was not clear.

I think it’s not worth describing how joyfully the cadets studied. As my interlocutor told me, I had to visit the library for the first time. And in general, this week of nightmare, he studied honestly, "as in the last century." What, in fact, affected his performance is not the best way. But - carried by. Unlike others. Otherwise, we would not talk with him, would close the "tails".

Meanwhile, due to the fact that previously observed UAVs suddenly disappeared, the management probably decided that the spies simply changed the field of activity. And they began to watch aviation Institute on the left bank.

At the institute, of course, everyone understood what it smelled like, and began to categorically otmazyvatsya. Say, no one flew, and if he flew, he would have reported long ago.

Figushki! Could not not fly! Service sucks are carrying!

And Saturday, December 3 was a “black Saturday” for meteorologists and other specialists who study at the institute. The arrived team of rebovtsev reliably drowned out everything that can and should be done.

There was no one to be indignant, since industrial buildings are located opposite the institute.

Of course, some cadets from the Faculty of Meteorology had to use the meteorological site again, rather than data from the Internet, but people who wanted to communicate with family and friends sighed through the fence and run outside the EW equipment.

But since the Russian soldier (or future officer) is obliged to bravely endure all the burdens and deprivations of military service, no one complained.

It is a pity, however, that the drone was never shot down ...
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 7 December 2016 05: 45
    +3
    It is a pity, however, that the drone was never shot down ...
    there is no "body" - no matter ... if not a fake, then at least everything is strange ... if the object is "regime" how did this happen? but what am I talking about ... carelessness is our punishment ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 December 2016 06: 02
      +8
      Maybe something happened, something didn’t happen ... In the Krasnodar Territory, drug addicts are tracked down with the help of drones, although everyone knows perfectly well (including the police) where and what they sell ..... But then .. ..new technologies and ... new money. wassat
      1. midivan
        midivan 7 December 2016 07: 22
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        although everyone knows perfectly well (including the police) where and what they sell.
        If we follow the police who know, then we will find out who the roof is and whose potion they sell yes
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 7 December 2016 08: 16
          +13
          Quote: 210ox
          although everyone knows perfectly well (including the police) where and what they sell ..... But right there .... new technologies and ... new money.

          Quote: midivan
          If we follow the police who know, then we will find out who the roof is and whose potion they sell

          For the federal court, which is considering drug trafficking cases, stupid phrases like "everyone knows" are worthless. Those who were involved in operational work will not let you lie about how difficult it is to prove things that seem obvious at first glance in court. Therefore, Mr. 210okv would recommend his suspicions about the "new money" and "everyone knows" to implement in the nearest prosecutor's office, well, if he is "for the truth". Mr. midivan would be advised the same. Is there any specific information about the protection of bandits by the security forces? - Let the prosecutor know. There is nothing to say - it is better to remain silent. The police do not have a great rating among the people, and you are with unfounded accusations. And if there is evidence to the facts, then your civic duty is to make the world cleaner ... I think so ...
          1. insular
            insular 7 December 2016 08: 31
            +4
            Quote: ARES623
            The police and so the rating among the people is not great

            Is this rating so empty from scratch? Well, straight holy martyrs ... Ugh ...
            That's because of people like you and I want to spit. Not in a word, but in deed, it is necessary to prove not just two honest officers, but the whole army of fat-bellied buns.
            A poorer fishguard with an almighty crust is a rarity?
            A traffic cop is a rarity?
            Roofing-cop rare?
            Tyzh look how amiable the amiable, walked right on the nicknames and brought everyone to conscience.
            Quote: ARES623
            Your civic duty is to make the world cleaner ... I think so ...
            Our duty is to survive maneuvering between officials, guards and bandits, often not noticing the difference.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 7 December 2016 15: 30
              +5
              Quote: insular
              Not in a word, but in deed, it is necessary to prove not just two honest officers, but the whole army of fat-bellied buns.

              To explain to you to whom you owe a quiet life, even pulse, when the children go for a walk without a platoon of machine gunners, seems to me useless today. For I see in your comment empty verbiage, the desire to cry all around (except for my beloved). And your blindness and not wanting to understand where the level of order that the country has today comes from. I agree that there is much to strive for, but there are living examples of real decline in the paralysis of the power part of the government. And then, our policemen didn’t fall from the moon. These are one of our relatives, friends, neighbors. Those. they are a mirror of society. What societies, such and the police. And there will never be another way, except occupation by foreign troops. You see a roofing cop, but you could also pay attention to Tonya Pateleeva, Sasha Kosolapov. There were no GAI officers nearby - 10 dead children and how many would become disabled. And GAI officers of drivers would not drive, in a week you like would go on an oncoming traffic. Yes, do not be these hated cops, you would sit under a table in your own apartment behind an armored door and would piss at every rustle. You are our surviving ...
              1. AID.S
                AID.S 9 December 2016 00: 12
                0
                Quote: ARES623
                Yes, do not be these hated cops, you would sit under a table in your own apartment behind an armored door and would piss at every rustle. You are our surviving ...

                Is it really that bad ... and this delicate balance is kept only by "cops" ..... Russia will collapse instantly when the crystal cop disappears ...
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 9 December 2016 07: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: AID.S
                  Is it really that bad ... and this delicate balance is kept only by "cops" ..... Russia will collapse instantly when the crystal cop disappears ...

                  Of course not, not so bad ... Everything is much worse. In short, it is necessary to clarify a simple truth - any law, including international, exists only if there is a force capable of enforcing this right. On the example of Ukraine, the US behavior clearly shows what happens in the absence of this third force. Strengths do not tend to voluntarily comply with the rule of law and limit their appetites, almost never. The right is always the defense of the weak side from the oppression of the strong.
          2. midivan
            midivan 7 December 2016 10: 17
            +2
            Quote: ARES623
            Mr. midivan would advise the same.

            Well firstly "mister" you contact your friends wink it’s better then with me, then, secondly, don’t be so naive, they found how to shake off Ulyukaev, and if you want to take a huckster and prove it, it’s not a problem, you need to work, but my civil debts and the work of the RSD should not be confused, I need to work I don’t have time to live and run after my duty from colleagues who didn’t get to the prosecutor wink
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 7 December 2016 15: 41
              +3
              Quote: midivan
              Well, firstly, "mister" you contact your friends with me, it’s better then on -y-, and secondly - do not be so naive, Ulyukaev was found how to shake off, but to take a huckster and prove, if you wish, it's not a problem, you have to work, but my debts are civil and the work of the OSB should not be confused, I need to work in order to live and run after the fulfilled duty from colleagues who did not get the time to the prosecutor

              From childhood, my mother taught me to respect people, including strangers. You mentioned nothing about Ulyukaev because you hardly know anything more than what was written by uninitiated journalists. I see from the first words that you have such proof that you have no idea. I understand - did not come across. But you can believe it - this is a rather complicated procedure. And thank God that it is, otherwise any rogue who was envious of your happiness could smear you in the mud and make room for yourself in your dreams. Regarding the performance of a civic duty, I have no illusions, I have sufficient experience in communicating with people who, except for drinking ... are not capable of a real practical step. These are not all, but there are a lot of them, that is, you. Whine from a safe place and into a mink. Whatever happens. No offense. Instinct is stronger. Only employment should not be referenced, you yourself understand, this is from the evil one ...
              1. midivan
                midivan 7 December 2016 20: 43
                0
                Quote: ARES623
                I see from the first words that you have such proof that you have no idea.

                I have a vague truth.
                Quote: ARES623
                otherwise, any rogue who envied your happiness could smear you in the mud and make room for you in your dreams

                smile I understand that you are one of those honest ones? and hurt you? And about the crooks, my father and grandfather taught me to beat the muzzle and not complain when I was a child, by the way it works and I didn’t have to go to the authorities at my 40 wink
                Quote: ARES623
                Regarding the performance of a civic duty, I have no illusions, I have sufficient experience in communicating with people who, apart from drinking ... be, are not capable of a real practical step .........

                Let it be your way, yeah yes
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 7 December 2016 21: 20
                  +3
                  Quote: midivan
                  I understand that you are one of those honest ones? that hurt you?

                  Unfortunately, I am well over forty. I have had both ups and downs, and therefore it is impossible to touch me "empty" by definition. But it is a shame that we, having a general secondary education and, to a large extent, higher education, are stuck at the level of children's fist fights. The question is not in your assessment of the work of the Department of Internal Affairs, but in the fact that on the basis of primitive incidents, sometimes mythical, you draw large-scale conclusions about the gigantic system. This is a kind of parable about the blind sages and the elephant. I think it's time for your age to approach life dialectically, with a head. Although, maybe it's about nothing ... and not why.
                  1. midivan
                    midivan 8 December 2016 01: 03
                    0
                    Quote: ARES623
                    that you, on the basis of primitive incidents, sometimes mythical, draw large-scale conclusions about the gigantic system.
                    If you follow the police who KNOW, then we will find out who is the roof and whose potion is being traded [quote] [/ quote] Well, the scale here is purely limited and the key was "those who know", that is, just the roof, if you start telling me that, the huckster whom they know for years or how they can not press to the nail for lack of evidence, I will have to doubt the presence of logic or covering up both the huckster and the werewolves, and as for mythical incidents, as you put it, I attribute the sitting youngsters who scraped into a bag weed money or a piece of hashish to show off in front of each other in their steepness, and the huckster from whom he acquired further continues to trade. This is from personal observations, as well as acquaintances both with such youngsters and with the organs (there were friends working there), so I have enough living examples and dialectics here I would not even say to anything.
                    1. ARES623
                      ARES623 8 December 2016 06: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: midivan
                      This is from personal observations, as well as acquaintances with such youngsters and with organs (there were friends working there), so I have enough living examples and dialectics here, I would not even say why.

                      And indeed, why dialectics, logic and other obscene words when there is an OBS. However, I assumed so, instead of "know" you prefer to "believe". As the saying goes, "blessed are the believers ..." The only truth is that unreliable information leads to wrong conclusions, and those, in turn, lead to wrong actions. Rake, however.
                      1. midivan
                        midivan 8 December 2016 06: 42
                        0
                        Quote: ARES623
                        And really, why dialectics, logic and other obscene words when there is an OBS.

                        I didn’t understand what OBS is (I do not have a full average and that is on a lame goat), we really speak different languages laughing And then to believe it? when I gave you specific examples not from stories, but what happened before our eyes smile okay, I think we need to end our dialogue before we go into the jungle, but it turns out if for example I see how a person shoots another person’s head, then it’s stupid of me to say that this is a killer without deductive techniques, etc., etc. smile
          3. 210ox
            210ox 7 December 2016 18: 40
            +1
            What you propose has already been done ... well, about a year ago. And nothing .... Just ... changed the prosecutor's office. I mean those people who accepted the statement.
            Quote: ARES623
            Quote: 210ox
            although everyone knows perfectly well (including the police) where and what they sell ..... But right there .... new technologies and ... new money.

            Quote: midivan
            If we follow the police who know, then we will find out who the roof is and whose potion they sell

            For the federal court, which is considering drug trafficking cases, stupid phrases like "everyone knows" are worthless. Those who were involved in operational work will not let you lie about how difficult it is to prove things that seem obvious at first glance in court. Therefore, Mr. 210okv would recommend his suspicions about the "new money" and "everyone knows" to implement in the nearest prosecutor's office, well, if he is "for the truth". Mr. midivan would be advised the same. Is there any specific information about the protection of bandits by the security forces? - Let the prosecutor know. There is nothing to say - it is better to remain silent. The police do not have a great rating among the people, and you are with unfounded accusations. And if there is evidence to the facts, then your civic duty is to make the world cleaner ... I think so ...
        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 7 December 2016 08: 50
          0
          Here and drones will be superfluous
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 7 December 2016 12: 53
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        , although everyone knows perfectly well (including the police) where and what they sell .....

        "everybody knows" ... Great proof!
        In this regard, the question: never had to stand in court (any ...) before a judge, and answer questions? With "everybody knows" arguments? ...
      3. tol100v
        tol100v 7 December 2016 12: 53
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        . But right there .... new technologies and ... new money.

        And new nano-technologies CUT THEM!
    2. midivan
      midivan 7 December 2016 07: 17
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      no "body" - no case ..

      There is more than one body there, I hope the FSB has already put these bodies with cancer that are directly related to leadership lol
    3. Rus2012
      Rus2012 7 December 2016 11: 28
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      no "body" - no matter ... if not fake

      :))))))))))))))))))
      ... it was necessary to pay attention to the overgrown fathers of young lovers of "everything flying"!
      And then you panimat whether you bought your children a "miracle-Chinese flying" (though some are quite with self-made gasoline-castor "jerks")! AND THEN THE GIVERS, perhaps, liked to peep into other people's windows, behind the unintentionally naked charms of young ocheravashki :)))

      There was a case, we know several of these "remembered deststvo" :)))


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    4. svp67
      svp67 7 December 2016 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      no "body" - no matter ... if not fake, then at least everything is strange

      Yes, everything went fine. The "enemy" UAV was so scared and shocked by the measures taken to catch it that he could not find anything better than to flee and as a result burned out from the dense layers of the atmosphere somewhere over Tuva ... But "Progress" is a pity; signal strength ...
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 December 2016 05: 46
    +1
    Well done EW!
    1. midivan
      midivan 7 December 2016 07: 29
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Well done EW!

      And then !, Auntie did not give the series a look laughing I've often heard here how with the help of electronic warfare they put drones, it turns out nonsense? Or did it work poorly? and it was only necessary to put the dome and let the copter even nightmare students? Also in May, pulling a large tent over the center of Schaub was not visible, and all matters and no need to spend money on electronics lol
  3. EvgNik
    EvgNik 7 December 2016 05: 56
    +1
    Roman, Thank you, cheered up in the morning.
  4. Butters
    Butters 7 December 2016 05: 59
    +2
    They saw drones every Friday evening, and by Monday did they disappear?
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts 7 December 2016 06: 18
      +12
      Quote: Butters
      they saw on Friday night, and by Monday they were disappearing?

      Offend.
      At the Officers House there is a lecture on family and marriage.
      - According to the results of sociological research, actors are in the first place in the number of adultery, athletes are in the second, and officers are in the third ...
      The officer rises from his seat:
      - This is slander! This is the defamation of the army! I've been married for forty years, and over these forty years I have never cheated on my wife.
      Presidium General:
      - That's because of such gouging, we are weaving in third place.
    2. midivan
      midivan 7 December 2016 07: 31
      0
      Quote: Butters
      They saw drones every Friday evening, and by Monday did they disappear?

      So on Monday to work, the head should be fresh or just a little with a hangover.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 December 2016 07: 44
    +2
    If this is a true story, then it will have a very sad ending for those who led this mess with neutralizing UAVs. And at the same time they were once again convinced that stupidity knows no bounds.
  6. activator
    activator 7 December 2016 08: 20
    +2
    Kind people, but now the quadcopter from 400 UAH children are playing and if you watch carefully, you can certainly notice, but if you want to ... But I wonder what was so secret in this place or how an enemy copter would fly in one funny article on above the secret object, it turns out that there are no secrets, and this was just the biggest SECRET. bully
    1. midivan
      midivan 7 December 2016 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: activator
      Good people, but now a quadrocopter from 400 UAH children are played

      The fact is that, from your flag to Voronezh, 300 km? and your guests are striped, why not give them a try? normal copter how many can be in the air? target? Well, let’s check our air defense, their actions and response time, and judging by the article, the Americans did not have time to change diapers from laughter, well, as an example request and VUNTS did not rattle them wink
    2. vinc
      vinc 7 December 2016 11: 07
      +2
      Some of the students most likely dragged their copter, and the fathers-commanders decided to combine business with pleasure: 1 practiced in UAV control? - practiced, electronic warfare systems applied - applied, 2 fellow friends pinned - pinned. Moreover, most of the teachers at universities are former, then current officers. Not such a big city is Voronezh, especially in the sense of aviators. Even in our technological academy of the Belarusian Railways, etc., former officers taught. We have heard such tales ... oh oh oh
      "... and now we will deal with IDB. You know what IDB is. Imitation of Stormy Activity. I'm leaving, and you run away well, at least 15 minutes after me" (I still remember ha ha)
  7. Krayt
    Krayt 7 December 2016 08: 31
    +2
    Unauthorized flights over Voronezh by private helicopters and other things are not news for a long time, so I do not agree with the sarcasm of the author of the article. Duty with guns on the roofs in the 21st century is not an option, but to transfer to Voronezh a mixed air defense regiment armed with S-400, BUK-M3 and Pantsir-S1 is long overdue, the border is near, and the city is large and if there may be major civilian casualties persons, which is simply unacceptable. In the end, for observation, or a terrorist attack, you can also use home-made UAVs, from a DIY circle, and I do not think that duty in large cities of the Russian Federation, especially bordering ones, is superfluous.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 7 December 2016 12: 20
      +1
      Quote: Krayt
      but to transfer to Voronezh the mixed air defense regiment armed with the S-400, BUK-M3 and the Shell-S1 it’s high time,

      ... but it's not the case from "Shilka" / "Pantsir" - to beat on amusing UAVs.
      But, in fact, there is a problem. Naturally not only in Voronezh. With the light hand of Internet, "21st century factories" and handy-big-headed, "funny UAVs" have become a real and everyday topic: flight range up to 100 km, photo-video equipment has funny dimensions / weight with acceptable quality of filming. The main thing is that the mass character of this phenomenon is growing by leaps and bounds. Courier services are already thinking about delivering parcels "for the last mile".
      Imagine a swarm of UAVs over a megalopolis. It’s already unrealistic to control and manage ...
      And the crime will get drawn in (has it gotten involved?) - drug trafficking, weapons to smuggle ...
      And to regulate to manage ... to stop - in essence there is nothing
      1. Krayt
        Krayt 7 December 2016 16: 13
        0
        It is necessary to shoot down UAVs from the Pantsir-C1 air defense system. These are bad jokes. On the UAV can be installed not only tracking equipment, but also explosives. Explain to you what an explosion even spent 100 grams, or look at YouTube yourself ?! In addition, you need to remove from free sale things that can be used for the production of UAVs by private traders.
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 7 December 2016 17: 41
          +1
          Quote: Krayt
          In addition, you need to remove from free sale things that can be used for the production of UAVs by private traders.

          ... "hold and do not let go!" - how familiar!% (((

          However ...
          Firstly, all over the world it’s not forbidden even to private traders to fly to the UAV, not to mention having an UAV ...
          Secondly, even in the USSR, UAVs could be legally and officially built and used (clubs DOSAAF, Young Technician ... and so on): models for "air combat", flight "along a route" at range, speed, etc., cord models ...
          Thirdly, the use of UAVs from infancy - develops skills for FUTURE OPERATORS of Combat UAVs (and counteracts them).

          Otherwise, you will forever roam the margins of world progress. And act as the administration of military universities mentioned in the article ...
          1. Krayt
            Krayt 7 December 2016 19: 50
            0
            There was no terrorism in the USSR, except for one case when the Armenian Nazis staged a terrorist attack in the Moscow metro, during the Brezhnev era, and today other times and terrorist attacks are not uncommon, so for me security is more important than the entertainment of "golden youth" ', which already often abuses the patience of society in the Russian Federation, not observing either laws or customs and does not respect anyone but herself.
  8. Baloo
    Baloo 7 December 2016 08: 41
    +3
    I go out to the balcony in the evening. Meters in 800x see moving luminous points. Now they move, then they freeze. UFO? In the morning I realized a construction site, a tower crane, a searchlight on a crane.
    About 20 years ago, late in the evening I leave the bathhouse and see a luminous point above the horizon of 7-10 degrees for which a luminous cone. UFO?! the point froze, began to decline, the cone turned into a circle, then into a semicircle, gradually everything disappeared. Got it - rockets or a plane. The night is frosty, clear, visibility is excellent. I do not believe in UFOs, but the bike amused.
  9. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 December 2016 09: 58
    0
    Well, the anecdote is being introduced to the masses: "... who served in the Army does not laugh in the circus ...", laughed for the rest of his life ...
  10. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 7 December 2016 11: 44
    +1
    The main question is one. Was there anything on the territory of the training centers that constituted a military secret and could be detected from a drone? If it was, then I did not understand the humor. Drones are available, it is possible to remove spyware from their cameras, measures must be taken. It would be worthwhile to take smarter measures, but in the Charter so far, as I understand it, there is no necessary section (but in vain).
    If there was no violation of secrecy, activity is certainly excessive. But it would be worth taking measures anyway, albeit as a training. To begin with, you should confirm the presence of a drone using video from a security camera or a high-quality image with reference landmarks.
    In general, there is nothing to laugh at, you need to develop and implement a manual.
  11. Kelwin
    Kelwin 7 December 2016 12: 12
    +3
    Understood nothing. Objects regimen or how, well, okay, sort it out. But if you need binoculars for detection, what can you do with the smooth-bore arrow? For some reason, they drowned everything out, and why couldn’t they recognize the toy, well, since it’s visible, and not strangle it specifically, because they dropped the Internet themselves?))
  12. Normal ok
    Normal ok 7 December 2016 14: 02
    0
    An army without senility - like sex without an orgasm

    Who has served knows laughing
  13. faiver
    faiver 7 December 2016 16: 43
    0
    thanks laughed :)
  14. Cananecat
    Cananecat 7 December 2016 21: 01
    0
    The first thing that comes to mind, but to ask the appropriate structures in the city, whose economy is not destiny spoils the nerves? These are first bullets, then they ask ... the army ... et.
  15. al.popoff
    al.popoff 7 December 2016 21: 44
    +1
    Combat use of electronic warfare equipment only by order of the district chief of staff. And the tales about drowned out for suckers. Low-power jammers such as crossbow and its modifications as well as RP377UVM are not electronic warfare products, but toys.
  16. ARES623
    ARES623 8 December 2016 08: 27
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    midivan,

    Quote: midivan
    I do not understand what is OBS

    OBS - "one woman said", i.e. information that has no signs of reliability.
    Quote: midivan
    And then to believe it? when I gave you specific examples not from stories, but what happened before our eyes

    But this is a serious crime, when you, being an eyewitness to the crime, withhold information from the investigation. You, therefore, become an accomplice in this crime. And the jungle is simple - no one but ourselves will make our country, our place of residence safe, modern, prosperous. The logic is simple - the country is us and you, as we relate to it, such it will be. No one will replace us in building our future. Here we laugh at the pan-heads when they hope that upon joining the EU they will receive large salaries, pensions, the European order. But we ourselves think in much the same way - as long as I criticize the police and the government on the couch, let someone put them in order and I will observe. And do not moan that nothing depends on us. Depends, and even a lot ...
  17. trantor
    trantor 8 December 2016 08: 58
    0
    For a joke it’s a bit long and not funny, for the article it’s a little liquid.
  18. Gamdlislyam
    Gamdlislyam 8 December 2016 15: 30
    +1
    midivan,
    Quote: midivan
    I do not understand what is OBS

    Dear colleague Ivan, you probably did not live in the USSR, or you were in infancy, since you do not know the "OBS agency" (one grandmother said). In Soviet times, it was a fairly effective "agency" for spreading rumors (currently, fakes) of a certain content. The current internet and media are nervously smoking on the sidelines.
    And here is the distinguished colleague Dmitry (ARES623), RIGHTS, in a discussion with you. I’m stating this in an old man’s way, since before retirement I had a direct relationship with the judicial investigative authorities.