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"Cosmic" corruption

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The Investigation Committee of the Russian Federation has recently published several important statements about the investigation of large-scale thefts during the construction of objects at the Vostochny cosmodrome. Initially, embezzlement was estimated at 400 million rubles, then estimates have exceeded half a billion, and after several months of investigation, it turned out that all this is flowers. First, the minimum amount of embezzlement loomed already at the level of one and a half billion rubles, and the maximum is still unknown, since the investigation is still ongoing and at the same time new and new amounts continue to emerge, which were transferred from the state budget to the scammers' pocket who led the individual areas of work on the "East".


"Cosmic" corruption


One thing is clear: the amounts of embezzlement are huge, and officials from various government agencies and private shops from the Horn and Hoof series affiliated with them have their hands on these embezzlements by turning over a whole series of fraudulent schemes.

Kommersant reports that the indictment was approved in respect of Vadim Mitryakov in the framework of the criminal case on embezzlement of budget funds. Mr. Mitryakov is the general director of VIP-Stroyengineering LLC, a company that was engaged by individual federal structures to work on the cosmodrome under construction. The criminal case is of a very resonant nature, and therefore the level of the charge is appropriate. The Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Viktor Grin serves as the prosecutor.

Mr. Mitryakov is accused of fraud and the legalization (laundering) of stolen money. In total, Mitryakov, according to the prosecution, caused damage to the state in the amount of 1,3 billion rubles! The company of this person has received the right to carry out works on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome provided for by the contract. As a result, gaining subcontractors who a priori could not perform the full range of work, Mitryakov appropriated almost two thirds of the funds allocated from the state budget. Subsequently, "laundering" the funds, rolled them through several other firms. The scheme was revealed, and now the case of Mr. Mitryakov Simonovsky District Court of the city of Moscow will be considered in a special order.

However, Mitryakov is a private trader, so to speak. Representatives also appear in the case, as has already been noted by federal structures. In particular, today the official representative of the RF IC Svetlana Petrenko announced the completion of the investigation in another case of embezzling funds during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome. This time we are talking about involvement (at least, so they think in the Investigation Committee) to the fraudulent schemes of the former head of the Federal Center for Pricing in Construction Yevgeny Yermolaev. Being in the state post, Mr. Yermolaev, according to the investigation, created a whole criminal group, which included the former head of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise under the Special Forces of the Russian Federation, as well as the general director of a number of private companies. Among the defendants in the case - the former head of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "State institution of special construction" Dalspetsstroy "at Spetsstroy RF Andrey Zakharov.

In total, the state, when using a scheme to overestimate the estimates for the implementation of the contract, only for the period 2011-2012. a group of Yermolaev stole at least 400 million rubles. Again, preliminary data ...

It is noteworthy that the participants in the frauds promptly allowed funds stolen from Russian taxpayers to buy real estate near Moscow for their loved ones. The materials of the case of Mr. Yermolaev contain information that the defendants managed to acquire a house and four land plots in the village of Barvikha, the Vidnovsky district of the Moscow region, as well as in a special resort area near the city of Dmitrov. At the moment, all these objects of elite real estate arrested.

The scale of embezzlement on the part of individual embezzlers by ordinary citizens of Russia is no longer surprising. This is unfortunate, especially since corruption and fraud at strategic state-financed facilities have long become something routine. Against this background, it’s not even the question of how poorly built the system of control over spending of budgetary funds during the construction of federal facilities is, but the fact that, in fact, none of the state structures that suffered the damage did not dare to file a lawsuit against the alleged perpetrators of the theft of funds from their (structures) budget. From the materials of the press service of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, it turns out that two FSUE of Spetsstroy of the Russian Federation have been recognized as the injured party, but (attention!) Their management and other representatives of the claims have not been filed with any of the accused. In other words, these FSUEs steal money in the billions, and they have nothing special to do with these “astronomical” thefts.

And what is it called? Apparently, ladies and gentlemen, officials from these federal structures believe that claims should be filed only in the event of embezzlement of their own funds, and since state funds were stolen (in fact, ordinary Russians' funds), then you can keep silent - they say no big deal the state will still give it anyway, because the cosmodrome needs to be brought to mind anyway ... Such an approach in itself looks no less an economic crime than stealing budget funds. Or is it all simpler, and the leaders of the federal state unitary enterprises are also in proportion, and therefore they are silent in a rag? ..

Against this background, materials on another “space” case were published in Sledkom. We are already talking about the embezzlement of funds of the Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center. The amount of waste - more than 368 million rubles. The figures in this case are the ex-heads of the said center, Vladimir Nesterov and Mikhail Yakushin. In addition, the budget millions have decided to transfer into their own pockets other comrades who, as they say, are not comrades at all ... One of those is Mr. Dyakonov, general director of the Ecopravo Closed Joint-Stock Company. These persons are charged with forgery of documents, as well as embezzlement committed by an organized group on a large scale.

From the material press service of the RF IC:
According to investigators, in 2007, the director general (...) of the center, Vladimir Nesterov, created an organized group in which he involved his subordinates - Alexander Yarushin, Deputy Economic Director (now convicted of committing these crimes), and Chief Accountant "Ecopravo" Dmitry Dyakonov, who provided audit and consulting services to the center for several years. In 2007 - 2014, Nesterov, Ostroverh and Yakushin, using their official position, spent more than 368 million rubles, belonging to the company, in favor of an auditing company. In order to give the appearance of legality of their actions and conceal a crime, a fictitious contract for the provision of consulting services was concluded between the state enterprise and CJSC Eopravo, on which payment was made on the basis of forged documents. At the request of the investigation, in order to ensure compensation for the damage caused by the crime, money, bank stocks, expensive cars, an apartment and other property of the defendants were seized for a total amount of more than 127 million rubles.


Arrest on houses, apartments, summer cottages and cars is, of course, great. But something suggests that, firstly, it does not cover the damage caused to the state (taking into account the enormous reputational damage), secondly, the punishment stipulated by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for these articles looks like a bad joke. For example, Art.174.1 provides for punishment for money laundering on a large scale ... tra-ta-ta-ta (drum roll) ... with a fine of up to two hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wages or other income of the convict for the period from one to two years. There is also an option to “sit down”, but considering that the investigation has been going on for a long time - most of the defendants in the SIZO, whether under house arrest, “stayed” the lion’s share of the stipulated terms. It remains to pay a fine, for example, in 200 thousand rubles and "with a clear conscience" ... steal further ... Well, what - just open a new LLC, agree with those who did not see the need for filing suits - and go ahead, to the new and attractive dalyam conquest of corrupt "cosmos" ... And if so, then the relevance of "trampoline" Rogozin will soon begin to loom for the domestic industry.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 6 December 2016 05: 55
    +19
    This is the tip of the iceberg ... ALL the state has rotted. It's a pity we do not have an organizer of the level of Lavrenty Pavlovich ..
    1. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 6 December 2016 06: 13
      +13
      It’s a pity that they don’t shoot us! We need a couple of dozen thieves to shoot such others will start thinking!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2016 07: 23
        +1
        It’s a pity that they don’t shoot us!
        It is not necessary to shoot. It is enough "they will put you on, but you don't steal"
      2. papas-57
        papas-57 6 December 2016 07: 47
        +15
        And be sure to completely confiscate all property and money from the person involved in the case and ALL of his relatives, if the latter do not prove by document that it was they who earned it and did not break the laws.
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      3. afrikanez
        afrikanez 6 December 2016 10: 34
        +2
        With this "alignment" of cases, a couple of dozen executions will not get off. Sometimes you don't even know that for such "people" you can even be chosen for punishment. Uranium mines, it is unambiguous, they cry for such state thieves!
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 7 December 2016 13: 18
          0
          Quote: afrikanez
          With this "alignment" of affairs, a couple of dozen executions will not get off.

          I'll tell you this, for the most part these embezzlers are pitiful cowards. The public execution of the most "distinguished", "good wishes" to different people for the submission of income declarations, "labor activity" to those who distinguished themselves in spitting on morality and society - will produce the desired effect and give the desired result in not very long terms. And still fruitful is an effective substitution, in which the “last” will become the “first”, and the “first” will reap the fruits of their long-term cultivation of a society of excessive consumption at the expense of oppression (exaggeration, subsistence, etc.) of broad productive masses ...
      4. aleks2016
        aleks2016 6 December 2016 10: 47
        +2
        You're right. But if we only write about it in the comments, there will be no sense.
        I signed a petition created on a foreign site so that Russia could not close it. Petition to the President and the State Duma. With the requirement to adopt and urgently, - The Law on confiscation and execution of thieves. While the thief knows that nothing will be taken from him, he will steal.
        If thieves were not shot in China, they would have been completely blocked.
        This is a link to a petition. Get connected. I need to collect, I think, ten million signatures. Only then Putin, and therefore the State Duma, will start to move ...
        https://www.change.org/p/%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B7
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        1. g1v2
          g1v2 6 December 2016 14: 50
          +4
          Nda, in a kindergarten some kind of matinee. Speaking of the facts of petty theft, as a rule, they cover up the much more serious problem of the general distribution. Much more than they steal, we simply throw money away. And so that they would not be asked questions - why one, second, third was not calculated or done through the ass - they pull out some petty thief. After that, the guilty party was found and the layman began to argue heatedly - what would save Russia - mass executions or castration with confiscation of property that would not return to Russia for a long time. In general, such disputes have been a favorite pastime of ordinary people since Soviet times. Just from the kitchens, this boltology flowed into the Internet. fellow But I don’t remember the issues of control, acceptance, labeling of products and products, to be discussed here sometime more or less seriously. Or, for example, reforming the special construction so that it does not conclude agreements with margins on all intermediaries and transactions for all, not with third-party enterprises, but builds itself and has sufficient capacities and resources to build objects - from and to independently and at fixed, monitored prices . request
          1. lukewarm
            lukewarm 8 December 2016 09: 18
            0
            Totally agree with you. I will add only
            Quote: g1v2
            Or, for example, reforming the special system so that it does not conclude an agreement with third-party enterprises

            SPETSSTROY FSO ... They closed the shop. The Ministry of Defense will build.
      5. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 6 December 2016 15: 17
        +3
        but the president is all pretty.
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 8 December 2016 09: 19
          0
          Did he tell you so?
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 8 December 2016 17: 38
            0
            he said to the whole country that he was pleased with the work of the government.
            Or do you have other information?
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 6 December 2016 06: 13
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      It is a pity we do not have an organizer of the level of Lavrenty Pavlovich.

      Lavrenty Pavlovich was, as the manager would say now, but very effective, now there are none, there are menagers. And the development of the space industry owes much to him.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 6 December 2016 06: 24
        +9
        "Cosmic" corruption
        this term is applicable in modern Russia to practically everything, no matter how "patriots" screech ... from kindergartens to ... the space program. I just do not know of such an industry-uncorrupted .... in principle ...! if there is corruption in the anti-corruption committee, where next? I would really not want the authorities to "play out", Ukraine will seem just a prank. example? yes, please: at the parliament building, were there tanks hitting with direct fire? -no ... how I would not want to, but in a messy country, over Ukraine, it’s no longer funny.
        1. Volzhanin
          Volzhanin 6 December 2016 18: 26
          0
          Corruption because the laws are ugly. And these laws riveted the thieves' marginal scum of society, which were accumulated in a thirsty State Duma and a false government. The flawed laws were obviously cooked for themselves in order to protrude curiously and steal without being distracted by possible consequences. And it seems like, we ourselves chose this rubbish, so they greyhound to the fullest, spitting on everything.
      2. My address
        My address 6 December 2016 08: 24
        +3
        Evgeny Nikolaevich hi !
        But we have space managers, for example, the city of Rogozin. For him one thing can be said - neither can it steal, nor can it be punished negative ... Although my mother said that they had a saying in the Old Believers' village: "A thin job is akin to stealing," so there is no use for his honesty.

        And further. Where starts from the East ?! request
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 6 December 2016 10: 54
          +1
          Alexander, it looks like "Vostochny" is such a bo-o-o-o-big chocolate bar, which was taken away piece by piece, and now you have to collect it again.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 6 December 2016 14: 45
          +1
          Quote: My address
          And further. Where starts from the East ?!

          Was in April 2016. Now the second stage is being completed. It is necessary to complete the city with full infrastructure, where staff and specialists from related enterprises will live. A manned launch is scheduled for 2023. Where there is a lot of money, they always steal it. Well, a person cannot resist the temptation. Even in shooting China, the bullet is not a guarantee that the official will not steal. The only thing that is bad in this ordinary situation is good punishments, they scolded and released at the level. It would be normal if for civilians - the term and confiscation, and for government officials - a double term and confiscation.
          The good news is that they even started to catch and initiate criminal cases, which we did not even think about 15 years ago.
    3. Odysseus
      Odysseus 6 December 2016 07: 01
      +4
      Quote: 210ox
      It’s a pity we don’t have an organizer of the level of Lavrenty Pavlovich ..

      I was always surprised at such comments. Well, where does Beria or Stalin? They were leaders in a socialist state with a planned economy.
      And what about a planned economy? Do we live in the USSR? No, then why all these moans.
      Now such people cannot appear, and they appear. The current system will simply push them out like a foreign body.
      In general, if you agree with the current devices of life, then there is no need to mention Stalin-Beria in vain.
      And if you do not agree, and mention Stalin, then you need to talk about the restoration of socialism, as such, and not its individual parts or people.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 6 December 2016 11: 28
        +1
        Quote: Odyssey
        Well, where does Beria or Stalin? They were leaders in a socialist state with a planned economy.
        An important, nmv, clarification: they from the state with the NEP mixed economic order created a planned mobilization economy.
    4. SPACE
      SPACE 6 December 2016 08: 03
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      This is the tip of the iceberg ... ALL the state is rotten

      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      then the term is applicable in modern Russia to practically everything, no matter how "patriots" screech ... from kindergartens to ... the space program. I just do not know of such an industry-non-corrupt .... in principle.

      And how do you still exist? request
      P.S. The media hype with theft and corruption, already causes a steady mass psychosis and color hallucinations among the people. Every journalist considers it necessary to mention theft, and every patriot will certainly react to this with a tantrum. Applause, burn further ... wassat
      1. AUL
        AUL 6 December 2016 12: 32
        0
        Really! Arranged, you know, the hype! They invented that they steal from us on a cosmic scale, created a problem out of the blue. And journalists are inflating sensations out of thin air. So there’s nothing to scream, we’re here not 37 years old! laughing
        Against this background, the question is not even how poorly structured the budget spending control system is in the construction of federal facilities, but the fact that, in fact, none of the state structures that suffered damage decided to file a lawsuit against the alleged perpetrators of the theft of funds from their (structures) budget.

        As if so stealing could without participation in the process of the leaders of these government agencies themselves! Are they really idiots pounding themselves?
        Yes, famously we fight corruption! recourse
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 6 December 2016 14: 14
          0
          Quote: AUL
          Yes, famously we fight corruption!

          Quote: 210ox
          ALL state rotted

          But Abama, wrapped everything in time with electrical tape)))
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 6 December 2016 10: 14
      +1
      Lavrenty Pavlovich acted according to the Law, and where are our laws? Thus, the theft of state or public property entailed more severe punishment up to the execution. And confiscation (canceled by the current liberals) was used in all cases of this category.
    6. Titsen
      Titsen 6 December 2016 13: 48
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      This is the tip of the iceberg ...


      Hurry up.

      Nobody got to the summit!
    7. NordUral
      NordUral 7 December 2016 13: 21
      0
      And the head of the country that was at the time of this commissar. It is unfortunate that such a country after Stalin did not find a single leader in the government worthy of his place and state. Still.
  2. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 6 December 2016 06: 10
    +2
    Yes, what does the state have to do with it ... everyone who wanted to grab it. and most simple commerce. contracts have always sold and will be. but to those to whom they were sold, they were also sold several times. is this state to blame for the fact that people’s greed is already passing all that is possible? grabbing and what’s funny is that they know what they’ll get. but maybe Russian will carry ... in recent years, completely off the coils, the instinct for self-preservation has disappeared. at all. it does not remove the guilt of government officials. they need to be planted by all.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 6 December 2016 06: 19
      +4
      A strong state is strong in all places .. Including it would not allow such a large-scale theft .. Not even material values ​​were stolen .. and the prestige of the state.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 6 December 2016 06: 34
        +12
        Quote: 210ox
        Yes, what does the state have to do with it ...

        Quote: 210ox
        A strong state is strong in all places.

        Yesterday, I literally laughed, looking at how our "clever men" were on the "box", yelling at the Ukrainians hoarsely, for "selling wood" - you are so-and-so, you are going to sell round timber to the imperialists! I almost fell off my chair ... whoever was talking! "forest" - we have one of the most criminal industries in Russia! really, "we don't see the log in our own eye" ... https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = yYK
        0a8hGKFw 1 hour 9 minutes approximately ...
        1. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 6 December 2016 06: 51
          +2
          Politicians fuss (I wanted to write a rougher word) first thing! We need to look at 404 and draw conclusions. And we have a continuous chatter and at the exit 0. And the forest is felled ..... starting from Irkutsk and on and on, the echelons are being sent to brothers in China. It’s simple ... And no one sees anything. But the tree and products from it cost us how much! In general, give your uncle, and to .... and.!
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 6 December 2016 06: 58
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          "forest" - we have one of the most criminal industries in Russia!

          Yuryevich, what’s the roundabout. We have an Armenian director-captor, using factory money (when the plant was still firmly on his feet), he drove the sawlog by echelons - boards, timber, to Armenia.
    2. Rom14
      Rom14 6 December 2016 06: 46
      +3
      They seize by what they know - they will not sit, and if they do, it will not be for long .. And the fake will sit with that kind of money. And the fines for them, that the elephant grain - "community" will help. Confiscation must be returned to everyone and everything, to distant relatives and "friends" and to felling. And it is high time to raise Lawrence .... The Presidential National Guard is fighting with landfills !!! Because the governors and policemen are not able to cope with the owners of these illegal dumps! This is no longer a laugh and a sin, this is a complete fucking thing.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 December 2016 06: 14
    +3
    They simply did not understand that the time of "kickbacks" and "sewn-covered" is a little over, and the command is given from above - "Fas". All schemes with "intermediaries" at all levels are now being checked by the prosecutor's office. And if the intermediary only "organized" financial flows, he goes to the bunk. I see this even at competitions of the level of several tens of millions of rubles! What can we say about billions.
    In general, one thing was noticeable - the export of capital abroad - has decreased very much - it is difficult to export the stolen goods! And stealing has become MUCH harder.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 6 December 2016 06: 56
      +8
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And stealing has become MUCH harder.

      come on...! did you notice? wassat
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      2. My address
        My address 6 December 2016 09: 45
        +6
        Andrey Yuryevich! hi Angry and loyal anecdote to the topic:
        - You know, Vityok, when the authorities say that officials need to pay more in order not to take bribes, I think, how much should the police colonels pay so that they refuse 8 billions?
        Why aren't they afraid to steal and take bribes? And just saw enough of Serdyukov with basil and realized that it was not at all scary. In a decent society there are not only decent incentives, but also serious punishments. And here both of the first persons declare that the main thing is inevitability, and severity is not necessary. Maybe they do not agree, for whom is not required? And I know that with the growth of rights and obligations, responsibility must necessarily grow.
    2. AUL
      AUL 6 December 2016 12: 45
      +1
      Mountain shooter, who told you such nonsense !?
      "Do not read Soviet newspapers at night!" (C) And do not watch TV!
  4. Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 6 December 2016 06: 42
    +8
    Quote: cariperpaint
    Yes, what does the state have to do with it ... everyone who wanted to grab it. and most simple commerce. contracts have always sold and will be. but to those to whom they were sold, they were also sold several times. is this state to blame for the fact that people’s greed is already passing all that is possible? grabbing and what’s funny is that they know what they’ll get. but maybe Russian will carry ... in recent years, completely off the coils, the instinct for self-preservation has disappeared. at all. it does not remove the guilt of government officials. they need to be planted by all.

    I agree, in Siberia the whole city is freezing, they agreed that the boiler houses are rotten, people include email. The heaters didn’t stand the electric network, they announced an emergency, and the mayor was presented with an administrative fine, even the people threw themselves at the monument (in the form of a cast-iron battery), and they didn’t let them ... they don’t feed the barmen or Ukrainians, so don’t feed them with bread, but how to establish heat supply, it’s better to plunder, people don’t get used to it .. they will survive .. we demand all those guilty to be planted !!!
    PS our mayor is the former head of the penal colony
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 6 December 2016 06: 54
      +1
      Quote: Sofa Expert
      Sogushush, in Siberia the whole city freezes

      What city is this?
      1. Sofa expert
        Sofa expert 6 December 2016 07: 05
        +1
        Irkutsk region, Vikhorevka
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 6 December 2016 07: 54
          +1
          Quote: Sofa Expert
          Irkutsk region, Vikhorevka

          Thank you.
          But here the problem is systemic. They steal, of course, steal, but the fact is that we have been without repair in the housing and communal services sector for 25 years.
          Our current state does not have money for repairs, people do not, and the private trader is ready to take on the current operation and raise money. And the infrastructure is rotting ...
          A little cold winter, all arrived, endless accidents ..
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 6 December 2016 09: 06
            +1
            Quote: Odyssey
            Our current state does not have money for repairs, people do not, and the private trader is ready to take on the current operation and raise money. And the infrastructure is rotting ...

            for Syria, the funds are for some reason, the whole air is flooded with snotty broadcasts about the distribution of humanitarian aid and sending our "Syrian brothers" for treatment ... but the people are throwing off their children themselves
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 6 December 2016 12: 51
              +2
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              for Syria, the means are why

              Well, we got into the Syrian conflict to get the lever of negotiations with the "Western partners" after we slammed the Maidan and got into a dead end in Ukraine.
              And Assad’s position was critical by that time, he really needed to be saved, the loss of Syria would have turned into much greater losses in the future.
              But most importantly, this is a completely different scale, you can’t even imagine how much money is needed to compensate for all the shortfall in the repair of housing and communal services since 1991. There are astronomical sums. Syria did not even lie nearby.
              Under the existing socio-economic system, this is most likely impossible at all.
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 6 December 2016 12: 53
                +2
                just for me it’s an indicator of the attitude of the current authorities towards their people. In any case, the media picture, just such
  5. fa2998
    fa2998 6 December 2016 07: 00
    +2
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    It’s a pity that they don’t shoot us!

    Or maybe look more broadly! For example, in some countries, the state (of course, officials) are prohibited from doing business. The state only orders. Of course, they also steal, but there is a prosecutor's office for this. And our officials "use" budget funds with one hand, and with the other must oppose theft. Do not too many features.
    The last example is "Post of Russia". Yes, the enterprise worked profitably for a year. But from this amount, the "head of the post" himself encouraged 95 million rubles.
    We have not yet set up the protection of state money (taxpayer money, ours) to reduce state infusions. A barrel is full of holes !!! hi
  6. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 6 December 2016 07: 03
    +2
    The media extremely poorly cover this topic, which is why the government is completely unwilling to notice it. But by and large, the missiles are built not by private shops, but by state unitary enterprises, where it would be worthwhile to introduce the practice of removing the CEO from office for every loss of the launch vehicle.
  7. Semenov
    Semenov 6 December 2016 07: 23
    +1
    Taburetkin with Vasilyeva - children in the sandbox. And how all were indignant!
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 6 December 2016 08: 02
    +3
    The impression is that there is a certain competition - "Whoever snaps more will never get anything", that's just the one who" nothing will happen "will always surpass the next one. So everyone to sit!
  9. 501Legion
    501Legion 6 December 2016 08: 07
    +2
    what appetites these bastards have, I have not yet earned a million in my life by my labor. and they steal their tens and hundreds
  10. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 6 December 2016 08: 40
    +4
    I look forward to someone commenting on what this is "the collapse of the education system in general"to blame. am

    And what is in the USSR "stole more and rotten people". am

    What's in the USSR "they stole everything and therefore half-Baikonur carried away home in bags" am

    I have only one question - do not care about thieves, nothing can be done with them, apparently, but damage is compensated?

    It’s not necessary to shoot corrupt officials - full confiscation of property is required from the villain and all his relatives, who do not suddenly know where the property and money comes from (presumption of theft !; if he proved that yours is not confiscated from relatives) and a ban on holding any posts.

    So that the thief after serving was naked, like after Creation, and had no opportunity to steal again. Let the janitor work; wipers needed!
    1. WInovikov
      WInovikov 6 December 2016 12: 24
      +2
      And who will pass a confiscation law? State Duma? Government? Do not make people laugh! And where will the non-confiscated go? Go to other pockets?
  11. SPACE
    SPACE 6 December 2016 09: 21
    +1
    "Space" corruption is akin to "Space stupidity".
  12. Nix1986
    Nix1986 6 December 2016 09: 22
    +5
    Birch, of course, was G, but he said correctly "Forbid officials to have accounts abroad, to travel abroad for them and their families, and you will see that the GDP will not last even 2 weeks."
    1. WInovikov
      WInovikov 6 December 2016 12: 30
      +3
      Therefore, they do not accept the law on confiscation, and therefore the GDP in the State Duma is fully approved.
  13. Old26
    Old26 6 December 2016 09: 28
    +3
    Quote: papas-57
    And be sure to completely confiscate all property and money from the person involved in the case and ALL of his relatives, if the latter do not prove by document that it was they who earned it and did not break the laws.

    Precisely confiscation. A trial or even execution without this "addition" is meaningless.

    Quote: My address
    And further. Where starts from the East ?!

    Where? In the near future. For the next 4 years (2017-2020) it is already planned SIX LAUNCHES... Two in 2017, three in 2018 and one in 2019-2020 (not exactly defined yet). All six launches exclusively of Soyuz. "Breakthrough" the Angara launch vehicle in the Angara-1.2 version (14A125) is planned to be launched only in 2020, and even then from Plesetsk. Since there is no launch complex at the Vostochny yet, and when they plan, no one knows.

    By the way, here is another reason why the investigation is crying. "Angara". Created almost 20 years, spent according to the most conservative estimates about 160 billion rubles (data for mid-2015), but what do we have in the bottom line? But nothing. Two launches and a simulated payload and that's it. Dead-end branch. And you can't ask the one who promoted her with all his might - he is no longer available. True, there are still others ...
    1. WInovikov
      WInovikov 6 December 2016 12: 27
      +1
      The space is big - a lot of money will fit there. And not only the Seagull will not see them from Earth, but even astronomers.
  14. erased
    erased 6 December 2016 09: 39
    +3
    Well, now everyone knows the names of future ministers, prime ministers and other owners of the Russian Federation. The most effective managers are those who stole more. They won’t even do anything really. They will remove the fine (the percentage from the stolen in fact) and again loot the loot. And so in everything.
    Russia is dominated by thieves and enemies. Aw, patriotism, you are more relevant than ever ... among the poor and the common people. Which taxes and other amenities will soon bring to the state of slaves. You have to wait, not long left.
  15. trantor
    trantor 6 December 2016 09: 52
    +3
    Until the law is implemented the principle of "unprofitable crime" (in other words - unprofitable criminal actions) nothing will change. Confiscation, confiscation and more confiscation. Complete. Including the property of the next of kin.
  16. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 December 2016 11: 23
    +3
    Expenditures and theft in the defense industry must be equated with treason and punished for life with confiscation. At the same time, they also check the close circle of the defendants, so that those who explained where they got millions from. At the same time, doing this is not ostentatious, but constantly, regardless of ranks and posts.
    I know that in our country no one has believed in Thimida for a long time, and this skepticism is understandable. But once you have to become a rule of law ... with the money that is plundered, you can easily re-equip the entire army and navy, and still remain for a couple of Olympics in Sochi .
    Today, the main threat to our defense is corruption from the bottom to the very top. Moreover, in the civilian sphere, things are no better.
    It’s easier to hack the truth, of course, but you have to do something with corruption ...
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  18. Rostislav
    Rostislav 6 December 2016 12: 21
    +3
    The executions will not help here. In the Middle Ages, hands were chopped and hung, so most thefts were committed in the squares precisely during executions.
    The only remedy is the confiscation of the "acquired by overwork" from the thief and all relatives, if they do not prove the legality of the funds for which everything was acquired.
    It’s NOT an easy way, instead of cottages they will start opening accounts abroad, but there is already work for detectives — they will improve their skills and take lessons from American tax officials who are looking for and often find secret accounts.
    1. Sergey956
      Sergey956 6 December 2016 14: 18
      0
      All our "fiery revolutionaries" were interrogated at the Cheka until they gave up the last pfenings from secret accounts in Switzerland and Germany. Only after that they were shot, and their relatives were declared accomplices. I think that in that situation, the lack of money in the country - they did the right thing.
  19. tundra
    tundra 6 December 2016 13: 54
    +2
    Ermolaev’s group stole at least 400 million rubles. Again, preliminary data ...
    KNPC them. Khrunichev. The amount of waste is more than 368 million rubles. The defendants in this case are the ex-heads of the aforementioned center Vladimir Nesterov and Mikhail Yakushin.
    Well, it seems to me that these are small fry, so they bit off a little bit of themselves.
    The main thief, how much should settle, 10 times more.
    If at the regiment, in the apartment hundreds of kg-m loot measured.
    Really someone thinks that people will find out whose real money it was.
  20. Sergey956
    Sergey956 6 December 2016 14: 12
    +2
    You can understand Russian embezzlers. When a lot of money passes through your hands, then to be an official and not have sticky hands to which money should stick - by Russian standards, you need to be a moron. Only when the official knows that a bullet can stick to the back of the head for embezzlement, and relatives remain on the street with homeless people for complicity in the embezzlement, it will be possible to talk about the development of the country.
  21. legkostup
    legkostup 6 December 2016 14: 58
    0
    In short, the moon was polymerized. There will be no more space in the Russian Federation, he is so polymer ...
  22. Blue fox
    Blue fox 6 December 2016 15: 15
    0
    Wow, Mr. Ermolaev was attracted. Not bad. The actor was in charge of the development of indexes to determine the current cost of construction, and over the past 10 years or even a little more, the FCCC was engaged in the pricing methodology for construction sites with financing from the federal budget.
  23. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 6 December 2016 19: 07
    0
    The described situation is systemic. This is how any Russian state project functions. Any. All such as one. Given the fact that the international credit window is closed (commodity sanctions are only good for us. We are bent on financial ones), the only source of money in the Russian economy is the state.
    And it functions like this. Everything is arranged in such a way that the direct executors of the work would go bankrupt at best. They stupidly have no money left. The money is plundered by "signatories" - the owners of capital signatures from high offices. This achieves two goals at once.
    Firstly, the level of our workers, directly those who must build up the power of the state, is steadily declining. Honest work does not in any way ensure not only reproduction of the workforce, but simply survival. Honestly building? The next object will not pull. Do you release good things? Go bankrupt. Etc.
    Secondly, money falls into the hands of those who can only gobble it up. In no case is it wise to invest. And the conditions for comfortable and safe living are only in the West. What did these "workers" buy? Elite land (many times cheaper than the market, at a loss to the state from which they bought) and houses. That is, "change houses" for their main job - the transformation of public funds into their own. The rest was spent by these people outside the borders of our country.
    That is, the task of bleeding and destroying our economy is being successfully solved. By whom? By our power. May it be damned ...
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 December 2016 20: 05
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      That is, the task of bleeding and destroying our economy is being successfully solved. By whom? By our power. May it be damned ...

      So it is so. And the liberals felt great until recent events with the laws of Magnitsky, Crimea, sanctions and other "quirks" on the part of those for whom the liberals have worked hard since 1991. A part of the elite got a taste of the simple thing, that if things go the same way as if nothing happened, then very soon they will lose power, another part of the elite realized that with the loss of power of a certain circle of persons, they will lose everything that they have acquired by "overwhelming" labor and joined the first part, which decided to defend using the available resources. But the third part of the elite, which is the most stupid, having lost the instinct of self-preservation, continues the policy of "reforms" for the exhaustion and disintegration of Russia, forgetting at the same time that with the collapse of Russia, they and their descendants will lose their food base, and having moved outside (if possible) it is not a fact that they will not have to prove in the courts the purity of the origin of their capital, which is likely to be seized in favor of the state of their host. Based on the current alignment of forces, the first and second group of elites begins to beat the third, in the face of the face, in order to enlighten and return from the American heavens to Russian soil along with the acquired, but not everyone reaches, and therefore there will be further resignations, arrests and landings but not for stolen goods, but for stupidity, for having missed the shores cannot be imbued with the importance of the moment, i.e. consider the changing balance of power in the new world order, when our first two groups can actually turn the outflow of money from Russia into an inflow. The old truth is that the richer the people, the more they pay taxes and buy goods, supporting production and the richer the country. Our LADIES and his "government" have a different point of view - "There is no money, but you hold on. All the best."
  24. Normal ok
    Normal ok 7 December 2016 14: 11
    0
    Well, how not to cut the budget when everyone does it. And the state order in the defense industry is actually raspberry.
  25. Cannonball
    Cannonball 8 December 2016 20: 23
    +1
    With space in Russia it becomes tight.
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