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Why the evil poor do not want to get rich - despite the calls of Dmitry Medvedev?

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Why the evil poor do not want to get rich - despite the calls of Dmitry Medvedev?Why do the evil poor do not want to get rich - despite all the calls of Dmitry Medvedev?


Money in the budget - “bye-bye”; there is little chance of improvement ... When the bottom of the state ship named “Russia” was openly scrubbing about the stranded, instead of changing the pilots, it was decided to dump cargoes and passengers - perhaps relief would “lift”.

The many years of senseless work in the tax sphere has led to the fact that with a flat scale of taxation, the fiscal burden on individuals reached the level of 43-48 percent of revenues from direct and obligatory payments and requisitions to extrabudgetary funds. This is complemented by indirect fees: real estate and transport taxes, excise taxes, payments for public services ...

That is, almost 50% of the money a person does not receive - he is only “given to hold them”. At the same time, the discussion on “how to improve the tax system” continues. For the most part, it shows that most of the participants have no idea not only about the intricacies of economics, but even about its basics.

First of all, the tax sphere is considered by the discussion participants (and among them are the deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, senators, Deputy Prime Minister Olga Golodets, and Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, and now Oreshkin will probably be added) not as a system for regulating relations, but as a system power of the state.
A certain "sacrament" of wealth is supposed, which is unknown where and it is not known how having been formed, turns into private hands. And already these individuals are divided (or not shared) with the state, acting in this scheme "parasite in the passive voice" ...

But in actual fact (obviously!) Everything is not so - and vice versa! After all, people do not give benefits to the state, but the state gives benefits to people! Not citizens pay the salary of the country, and the country to citizens! We do not decide how much the president will receive, but the president decides how much we will receive ...

Ask - how? And here is how: by providing (or not providing) to citizens a protected resource and infrastructure base of their territory, organizing their work on processing raw materials and the exchange of processing products.

If not, then there is nothing. If the tops are waiting for money from banks (in the form of taxes) just as the people from the tops are waiting for money in the form of material assistance - then it remains only to wait until the cancer on the mountain whistles!

The proposed tax scheme is similar to the fact that a farmer would expect taxes from potato tops as part of the tubers, without concern for planting, irrigation, fertilizer, or potato harvesting! That is, the farmer would have moved to the primitive gathering, hunting wild potatoes instead of cultivating it ...

It is important to understand the ministerial and deputy corps of the very literary truth of the economy: a rich person is not one who has taken little, but one who has been given a lot.

This is an absolutely obvious and completely simple truth, because you can take little or nothing from a beggar, but he will remain just as a beggar. From zero, you can take 1%, and you can 99%, anyway, both of them will be zero.

Therefore, all these arguments about taxes are progressive or non-progressive - for illiterate people. In life, it’s not that a rich uncle does his own hands 100%, and then gives 70% to idlers. In life, that's how: he hapnul everything, others got nothing. And those who did not get anything at first, receive benefits from the state through the mediation of a rich uncle who has imposed himself with a progressive scale on fear ...

That is, to distribute wealth - you must first understand, at least in general terms, where it comes from. Our economists, Gaidar's trainees, believe that rich people extract their super-profits directly from themselves, through the anus, or some other flesh-colored hole.
That is, the rich - in the version of economic science from Gaidar and Kudrin - know how to poop money. And the poor do not know how. And they don’t want to learn, and this is their historical guilt before the motherland, liberal reforms and their own descendants.

How many times have all these clever men, before Medvedev inclusive, instructed the poor: we must start our own firm, change jobs for a better paying job, start earning like a human being!

But the evil poor - probably to annoy the liberal bloc in the government of the Russian Federation - stubbornly do not want to get rich. Prosperous family firms are not opened, jobs for beggarly wages are up until hunger strikes - instead of going and getting a “good job”!

I don’t even know who should work with such a picture of the world in the minds of liberal ministers - an economist or a psychiatrist at once ...

Well, after all, it is obvious to everyone - at first all our wealth belongs to the state, the ruling group, the authorities. Then she begins to distribute it: he gives a lot to one person, and he is rich; there is little to another - he is poor; the third is a cookie - he is homeless; etc.

The idea that people do not want to “earn a lot” on purpose, artificially preserves their poverty, maliciously does not make large purchases - it came from some alternative universe.

With the exception of rare pathological personalities, a person is poor not by his own will, but by lack of opportunity. He was not given - so he is poor. And another was given - so he became rich. If they didn’t give, they would be as poor as all the poor ...

And therefore the key question is not whether many or few taxes are taken from the rich. The question is in the very origin of their wealth, the question is, why were they given so much?

How much to take from them, 13% or 70% - the question is already the tenth. And the first question is how and what explains their position as favorites, allowing you to have such personal super-profits in a poor country, which they, of course, did not earn themselves, who were given power by which they were incorporated.

I am absolutely not against rich people. I am against those who, having received maximum resources from the state and the authorities, devour them stupidly and selfishly, without developing the business issued to them by the government, not caring about the growth of the sources of all kinds of material wealth given to them.

The state, led by such stunners, believes that these irresponsible parasites do not brazenly use his gifts, but themselves, through the anus, emit material treasures from themselves.

And instead of strict demand from people who were given a treasure, the state begins to moan their taxes, like a beggar, which is both embarrassing and absurd and ridiculous.

The primitiveness of mind gives a distorted picture of economic reality in which, instead of producing wealth, they begin to divide, as if they are falling from the sky by meteorites. It turns out something like a "factory without workshops", consisting of one accounting. Or something like an agricultural holding without land, with warehouses and barns alone ...

I think even a schoolboy, even a child will understand that if a plant consists of one accounting department, then in the iron safe of this accounting department there will be less and less money, and then they will completely run out.

And this demise will take place not at all because the money was “wrongly” divided between the “workers” —but primarily due to the lack of workshops.
You can divide as you like - to levy taxes on a flat or progressive scale - but first you need to understand where the dividend came from, what makes up the income that you tax on one scale or another.

After all, the fact that paying 90% from a million is still more profitable than 1% from a dime does not go anywhere either. And therefore, it is not the tax percentage that is important, but the value of a person’s initial income.

And this person cannot earn income, so that Medvedev, the champion of small business, doesn’t dare - this income can be given (or not) by the state, the power that distributes the flow of benign resources in its territory!

The wealth of our rich people is largely (if not in everything) due to the undemanding of them on the part of the authorities. If they had confiscated property for the decline in production indicators, they would have invested much more in machines and much less in yachts with football clubs.
If they were really planted for non-payment of the minimum wage by the minimum wage, and the minimum wage would have been made thousands of 50 rubles - all their super-profits would have fled to pay the necessary personnel for the work.

For the time being, all their wealth stands on the poverty of the masses permitted by the state and encouraged by the state. Wealth is formed from environmental poverty, as steam is formed from the heating of water.

It stands at the minimum wage, which is 2 times lower than the subsistence minimum, and even in this form is not always paid to the employee. It stands on the willingness of people left to the mercy of fate by the state to hire for pennies and work a lot, sometimes even qualitatively, for a low and ridiculous reward.

It is necessary to understand that a rich person is not a donkey from a fairy tale popping gold. A rich man is a chauffeur, a driver of a resource-infrastructure machine, who controls the movement of "factories, newspapers, steamboats". So: the government, the state, are driving this car. And it should not just be planted like this: without the right to crash into anything, without the right, dodge the route, risk the life and health of passengers, etc.

Our historical tragedy is that a limousine named "Russia" fell into the hands of an alcoholic Yeltsin. Being an alcoholic, he slept in the back seat, and the drivers (rich people) who were seated behind the wheel — they drove where they wanted to — they used the car as their own, but did not protect it from dents and breakdowns - remembering that it was still a breech…

This tradition continues today. The state literally stomps a wild combination of wealth and irresponsibility: the country's three-year budget is rigidly fixed, on the verge of the possible, while there is no certainty that the income parameters will be met. Everything is tied to oil - as if apart from pipes in our country there is nothing more, and most importantly - as if everything is armless!

And they expect that the introduction of 30-percent tax on 5 percent of citizens with official income over 100 million rubles a year will bring the state treasury no less than 200 billion rubles. And how much will the full confiscation of these 5% bring? Did not try to count?

This makes all the talk about filling the budget in an incomprehensible and ridiculous homozy: after all, they divide the skin of an unkilled bear, they want to collect money in a ready-made form, without any hesitation about where they come from.

The tax system should regulate relations - transferring resources from inefficient hands to effective ones, this is its meaning. It should put pressure on the dead, rental income - and vice versa, encourage lively, entrepreneurial income, increasing the attractiveness of a lively active business before the dead cut of coupons from deposited capital.

Taxes allow the state to withdraw its powers of attorney (money) from the hands harmful to its development and to transfer these powers of attorney to the hands useful for its development. After all, the main purpose of money with a state emblem is to help the blessings in the process of creating new goods, to feed those who sow the bread of the next harvest with bread already baked!

They are trying to assure us that the main goal of the state is to collect those papers from the population, which it, the same state, printed and it distributed to the population!

It’s as if I was running for my own signature, begging myself to sign the paper, and refusing myself to do it ...

With such schizophrenia, the state will never have money - collect them on a flat scale, or progressive, make taxes heavy or easy, without a difference.

The state should organize both its own income and the income of family budgets of its citizens, using various instruments for this, including tax levies.

But if we see a system in the state, naively robbing citizens, in front of this mysterious and incomprehensible image of their own gains (How ?! Outside the territory ?! Outside of jurisdiction ?!) then we lose the state. Just like everything else ...
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  1. izya top
    izya top 5 December 2016 05: 40
    +23
    again, the wrong people caught?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 December 2016 05: 51
      +39
      That's it, it is necessary to eliminate it. The state is gradually turning not into a political-industrial formation, but into a structure consisting of accounting, tax and security officials. Industry is thrown away with the people
      1. The comment was deleted.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 5 December 2016 06: 06
      +21
      Posted by: Vazgen Avagyan

      In no way fellow Razmik, the heritage of Armenia in Vazgen was reincarnated. wink By the way, the source, for some reason, was not printed request I would like to see who Vazgen is and what it is eaten with. yes But the thoughts are clever (unlike Razmik) wink
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 5 December 2016 10: 19
        +3
        Quote: vovanpain
        I would like to see who Vazgen is and what it is eaten with.

        Please:
        http://fb.ru/article/223362/vazgen-avagyan-biogra
        fiya-books
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 5 December 2016 13: 08
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        vovanpain

        I would fill the gozman ... without options ...
      3. Titsen
        Titsen 5 December 2016 13: 53
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        But the thoughts are smart


        There is no need to criticize a lot of mind.

        You try to come up with the RIGHT JUST SYSTEM and that it WORKS RIGHT AND JUST!
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 5 December 2016 14: 57
          +2
          You try to come up with the RIGHT JUST SYSTEM and that it WORKS RIGHT AND JUST!
          Yes, everything is invented. But what’s the purpose? Doom the country to liberalism or make the country popular?
    3. Finches
      Finches 5 December 2016 07: 44
      +16
      An article from the series about rocking a boat on the eve of the 100th Revolution ... laughing

      I will not comment on anything, because after my innocent posts, especially on the topics "Russia, which we are about ... lost," the figure in the red circle is growing - and it is not far from the ban! Therefore, I joined the slender ranks of comrades with the motto: "Okay!" laughing
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 5 December 2016 10: 27
        +12
        Eugene, you are not the only one, I also have a growing number in a red circle, by the way I probably only see it (in my own sense), I don’t see any warnings. About the article. It’s impossible to get rich, people understand whether you live poorly and don’t want to give the last even for food. With pleasure everyone carries on the network (although the prices there are higher), but they (the networks) are lobbyed by the government, because each large network has its own major official. In general, the truth, as long as things are like this, we will sit on the priest exactly. Regarding taxes. I am paying a patent and that’s it! I have already written more than once that I don’t list a penny to crooks from a pension medical fund! You still need to live up to retirement and not the fact that you will get even some money out of your money, it’s even worse with medicine in Moscow, after the Sobyaninsky reform, you can’t get to the clinic, and there are no specialists left, so I go for a fee. And figs I still have to pay!
        1. Dekabrist
          Dekabrist 5 December 2016 11: 17
          +6
          Your number in circles is growing, and the fourth time I received a lieutenant, once from the Minister of Defense a long time ago, and three from the site.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 5 December 2016 11: 26
            +3
            So I'm talking about warnings, and about the real ranks I also have from the Minister of Defense, and from the site I was even Colonel General.
            1. Dekabrist
              Dekabrist 5 December 2016 11: 39
              +4
              And I mean that they delete "for life" together with comments without warning sometimes, like "consulted" and decided.
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 5 December 2016 11: 42
                +5
                I noticed that in recent times, even comments quite correct for themselves according to the rules of the site simply do not work.
          2. Finches
            Finches 5 December 2016 12: 23
            +5
            I still do not like the lack of intelligible argumentation: "For what?" and the opportunity to explain! hi
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 5 December 2016 12: 41
              +15
              The bottom line is that I received warnings for calling blacks Negroes, we were taught that way in school, there is a black race, and there are Mongoloid ones, etc., for which can Miklukho-Maklaya be canceled? Why should I tolerate a warning if I write the truth that Michelle Obama grimaced like a female chimpanzee while breaking a bottle on a ship, because it was!
              1. Dekabrist
                Dekabrist 5 December 2016 12: 45
                +7
                Wait, agree again. I see a way out only in creating a new site, but this is not an easy question, it is unlikely that anyone will take it now.
                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 5 December 2016 12: 48
                  +7
                  You know for almost four years on the site, I understood one thing! We must defend our point of view, and sometimes listen to colleagues on the site, and the rest is smoke.
              2. Finches
                Finches 5 December 2016 13: 00
                +6
                I was punished as a last resort for a word - which is not ... - Well ..., there is, but no word! laughing

                Let's be careful - we won’t let us all be kicked out and VO got into a friendly row of pink pages for TP! hi
                1. Dekabrist
                  Dekabrist 5 December 2016 13: 05
                  +9
                  Clutching fists fiercely, to the limit, to turning blue,
                  Hamsters walk on the ground in an unknown direction.
                  Hamsters go slowly, but confidently, proudly, firmly,
                  Let someone fear their faces (and muzzles), perhaps.
                  They hide in the reeds at night, go out into the wide field during the day ...
                  The hamsters managed to escape from the treasury cage at will.
                  Let the eyes blind, the hearing hurt this world is impossible new -
                  In them the spirit rages and grows stronger, such fighting, hamster.
                  It dictates to them: “Hold on bravely!” Willpower and faith in strength.
                  The hamsters bit their life, and it stunned them.
                  Khomyachkov mercilessly carries in a whirlwind of live broadcast ...
                  They only had to go - and that’s it! If only around the world, but around the world!
                  Tearing the past into shreds, an uncharted new raving,
                  Hamsters walk on the ground, believing that they are a bear!
      2. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 5 December 2016 11: 16
        +6
        Why are you worried, let's go together, there is also a circle with numbers. There will be uryakalka and hats who, when their idols leave, scream louder than anyone else, that they have long said that these idols are not good people. Remember the unforgettable J.V. Stalin. did you manage to kill, how did the "revelations" go, and from whom? From such here.
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 5 December 2016 11: 39
          +8
          I worry that the site is turning into one of the social networks (which I hate and where I’m not located), I worry that there are fewer adequate people to talk to and argue on different topics, having my own opinion, regardless of opinion site administration. After all, this is what we were different from others!
          1. Alf
            Alf 5 December 2016 19: 45
            +3
            Had misfortune TWO times to ask the administration why the rating was removed from the profile. In response, silence. When I wrote what the site is turning into and what will happen in the near future, I received a warning. I understood my wrong. Now I’ll scream at everything, I support, Hooray, long live. There is no other way to survive here.
    4. el coyote
      el coyote 5 December 2016 09: 10
      +5
      they gave it, others didn’t give it - nonsense. We have capitalism, with which the majority agreed 25 years ago. Iiiii ... it works like that.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 5 December 2016 10: 18
        +11
        Quote: el Coyote
        We have capitalism, with which the majority agreed 25 years ago. Iiiii ... it works like that.

        If US, in your opinion, is capitalism - you simply do not know what capitalism is.
        And 25 years ago, NOBODY AGREE - remember the results of the referendum. These are the ones who ignored the referendum and built "capitalism" in Russia - for yourself..
        1. el coyote
          el coyote 9 December 2016 09: 42
          +1
          from the fact that US capitalism is wild and Kumov’s - that is why it does not cease to be capitalism.
          but you don’t need to talk about the referendum, if everyone really wanted to stay in the USSR, why didn’t they put the conspirators on the pitchfork? This is called the tacit consent of the indifferent.
      2. L10n77
        L10n77 5 December 2016 15: 48
        +3
        Only in the list of the richest people of the Russian Federation, almost all positions are occupied by "top managers" of the state corporation and officials - that is, hired workers, and this is "they gave it, they didn't give it."
        1. el coyote
          el coyote 9 December 2016 09: 44
          0
          Just do not fit into the top managers on the medical board, so you are furious that "they did not give". And the hired worker has earned. And now there is no need to braid extremes in the form of corrupt officials.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 5 December 2016 12: 46
      +3
      As long as the population has savings for the "coffin", the state will know where to get the money. laughing
      1. el coyote
        el coyote 9 December 2016 09: 45
        0
        Yes, yes, yes, the state is the source of all our troubles, most likely everything is on the Maidan. negative (sarcasm)
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 5 December 2016 05: 41
    +17
    the fiscal burden on individuals has reached the level of 43-48 percent of income from direct and compulsory payments and levies in extra-budgetary funds. This is supplemented by indirect levies: real estate and transport taxes, excise taxes, payments for public services ...


    We are plucked softly and imperceptibly.
    And the gap between the elite and the simple citizen is becoming wider and wider ... as they say there is no money but you hold on there ... hehe heh for his pants ... his belly will soon stick to the vertebra.

    From the New Year we can expect a traditional increase in prices for everything and everyone with a stagnation of salaries ... the prospects are gloomy.
    1. Kolya
      Kolya 5 December 2016 06: 49
      +5
      All of them at the top know it all. Corruption is when the hands are tied, but not of one person but the hands of all people at the top together with mutual responsibility. To pull them out of the crowd alone, as some recently, is not enough. You need to change this whole party.
    2. victorsh
      victorsh 5 December 2016 07: 16
      +19
      From the New Year we can expect a traditional increase in prices for everything and everyone with a stagnation of salaries ... the prospects are gloomy.
      In Novosibirsk, the government decides how much to increase the payment for LCD services - by 15% or more. And they try to explain that without the increase there will be "kyrdyk". And as in Ukraine, we are urged that prices should be "European". I was shocked by A. Shariy in which he asked to send a video of receipts for payment of LCD services in Western Europe. There is NO more than 150 euros for a kopeck piece. We will not talk about their "average" salary and about ours. And this is against the background of Russian oil and gas supplies.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 5 December 2016 09: 23
        +7
        Quote: victorsh
        In Novosibirsk, the government decides how much to increase the payment for housing services - by 15% or more. And they try to explain that without the increase there will be "kyrdik".

        In St. Petersburg, an increase in the cost of public transport for the metro from 35 to 45, ground from 30 to 40, is coming. And faithful Putin Poltavchenko cheerfully explains that it is impossible otherwise, the townspeople will endure it all. There has probably not been such an increase since the 90s, when inflation was crazy, and we all nod to Ukraine
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 5 December 2016 19: 04
          +4
          All explanations about the need to increase the fare on the rubble. I accidentally went to the statistics website of our region. After increasing fares by 25%, revenue fell. The site had two annual schedules for the months - before and after the increase in the fare, the peak revenue was at the minimum level before the increase. Is it profitable to raise fees? No, but they do. That's the concern for profitability.
        2. Alf
          Alf 5 December 2016 19: 50
          +1
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          In St. Petersburg, an increase in the cost of public transport for the metro is from 35 to 45, and ground transportation from 30 to 40.

          Comrade Veteran66 told me that in St. Petersburg transport is inexpensive, and the average salary at the plant is 52 thousand. In Samara, my fare is half the price of 23 rubles, the average salary at the plant is 25-30 tons. Everything is twice as much or less, depending on where to look, but for some reason earnings are high in St. Petersburg. Strange ...
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 5 December 2016 20: 29
            0
            Quote: Alf
            Everything is twice as much or less, depending on where to look, but for some reason earnings are high in St. Petersburg. Strange ...

            The average salary in St. Petersburg is 25 thousand somewhere. I don’t know about the plants. Maybe like in institutes, the rector has a million, the ordinary teacher has 15 thousand, on average 30 (I exaggerate, but the meaning is somewhere like that). I work in KB, the average salary of an engineer is about 40 thousand. About 52 let the plant name a specific one - on the site you can always see vacancies and everything will become clear right away hi
            1. Alf
              Alf 5 December 2016 20: 41
              0
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              The average salary in St. Petersburg is 25 thousand somewhere. I don’t know about the plants. Maybe like in institutes, the rector has a million, the ordinary teacher has 15 thousand, on average 30 (I exaggerate, but the meaning is somewhere like that). I work in KB, the average salary of an engineer is about 40 thousand. About 52 let the plant name a specific one - on the site you can always see vacancies and everything will become clear right away

              According to Veteran66, from the meaning of his statements, I understood that he belongs to those who are now called "effective owners."
              1. murriou
                murriou 10 December 2016 10: 15
                0
                Quote: Alf
                he belongs to those who are now called "effective owners".

                I do not believe. Such people would not spend hours penny scribbling miserable comments on the forum.
                Now, if one of those who are jealous of "effective" looks into their mouths, sings along with them and dreams of becoming the same - it is quite possible.
    3. 34 region
      34 region 5 December 2016 10: 28
      +13
      05.41. Lyokha! There is no money but you hold on or go to business. I seem to guess what thoughts this message went from. Putin and Medvedev lived in the USSR where officially there was no small business. But really, people did it. It was sewed and sheared, and watches and shoes were repaired, farmers (summer residents and collective farm yards) grew plant and livestock products, there were cob workers, they made skins and sewed hats, and so on. And all this was done without the appeals of the Secretary General (President) to engage in small business! Gorbachev declared this unearned income, and then called for earning money on their own (without state enterprises). Those who served in the Western Group of Forces also engaged in small business. They sold in the Union something that they brought from there and brought there what they bought in the Union. Remember how they looked with envy who served there? They served five years in the GDR and arrived (well, they are so cool and wealthy!). That is, in the youth of Putin and Medvedev, doing private business was not a problem. Surely Medvedev also flickered with jeans, and maybe Putin also haggled when moving from the GDR to the Union and back. And when their dream of capitalism came true they are surprised at the infantilism of the population in terms of private business. But there is only one small but significant detail. Then there were strategic sectors, and private (household) business was an appendage to strategic development. Today, the government, on the contrary, wants to make small business strategic. But this is nonsense. This was understood even under the NEP, understood by those who rushed into the small business in the 90s. The owners of TNCs are well aware of this and do not seek to split a unit of TNCs into a polynomial, but rather, they try to put everything together in one fist. And only here, adherents of the HSE sect pray for this idea, than pour water on the mill of the interests of foreign TNCs and the financial international. It is because of these adepts that the sects pluck us. Because small business cannot bring big money. But in a sect it can! But in reality, no. So you have to pluck in the hope of a miracle of an invisible hand. hi
  3. Butters
    Butters 5 December 2016 05: 41
    +28
    In a state in which a thief sits on a thief and chases a thief, people will never live well.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 5 December 2016 05: 46
      +22
      In a state in which a thief sits on a thief and chases a thief,

      There are no thieves in Russia ... only effective managers are in it ... officially they do not steal but receive bonuses, so to speak, golden parachutes.
      And those who find several billion rubles, dollars or euros in apartments are simply God’s
      dandelions ... you know the wind blew from the state budget of RUSSIA.

      I have long understood that the financial system of RUSSIA is sick with gangrene (figuratively speaking) ... there are so many parasites on it ... my mother is not sorry.
  4. EvgNik
    EvgNik 5 December 2016 05: 50
    +10
    I am against those who, having received the maximum resources from the state and the authorities, consume them stupidly and selfishly, not developing the affairs issued to them by the authorities, not caring about the growth of the sources of all material wealth given to them

    And that’s how our factory’s privatizator blew up, an Armenian, by the way.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 5 December 2016 06: 04
      +17
      Eugene, it’s not even about the Armenian, but in principle, I’ll do whatever I want. All these Medvedev mantras that people should take care of themselves are not worth a dime. In the Baltics, we have chosen this path. There are tens of thousands of "enterprises. "of two or three people. Only there are no more real enterprises and the population is decreasing ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 5 December 2016 06: 17
        +4
        People do not care about themselves exceptionally in spite of Medvedev ---- like, in spite of my mother-in-law, I will knock out my own eyes, let her son-in-law be disabled! THE SYSTEM is always stronger than a person, takes care of itself contrary to the system ----..........
        And the article ----- fundamentally new thoughts --------- It is better to be healthy and rich than poor and sick.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 5 December 2016 06: 26
          +22
          And the article ----- fundamentally new thoughts --------- It is better to be healthy and rich than poor and sick.


          Better to be healthy and rich ... belay Correct at the expense of the poor and sick.

          It is no secret to become wealthy in RUSSIA legally extremely difficult.
          Most of the fortunes in RUSSIA have been acquired by banal thieves and banditry since the 90s ... here you can not even go to your grandmother.

          According to the classic of MARX, bandits and thieves (Russian banks didn’t appear from scratch) of the 90s have now legalized their capital and are now concerned about their safety and growth ... such is the dialectic and logic of life.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 5 December 2016 07: 36
            +10
            It is no secret to become wealthy in RUSSIA legally extremely difficult.

            You're right. And they are surprised that people who allegedly do not want (cannot) live richly are just those who at one time snatched fat and tidbits from the state for nothing. Now they are surprised - I’m rich, but why can’t you?
            1. Victor N
              Victor N 5 December 2016 08: 33
              +1
              From everything you read and commented on, did you understand what to do? If "yes" - share, I have not mastered it with a meager mind.
              1. rotmistr60
                rotmistr60 5 December 2016 08: 36
                +2
                Do you understand what to do?

                The eternal question - what to do and who is to blame? Continue to live, and what else do you want?
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 5 December 2016 09: 01
          +1
          Quote: Reptiloid
          “It is better to be healthy and wealthy than poor and sick.”

          If the rich man is already sick! The spirit is weak ... "mentally ill" is called!
        3. fif21
          fif21 5 December 2016 09: 51
          +2
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Better to be healthy and rich than poor and sick.

          Better to be poor but alive than rich and dead wassat
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 5 December 2016 10: 39
            +3
            And so it turns out that the meaning of all the teachings boils down to the fact that, here, “I got rich and everyone can.” And if the rich people have a short memory of the events of 30 years ago and a hidden contempt for the poor, then their children believe that as a result they were born with a golden spoon in their mouths and do not hide their contempt for "little people".
  5. svskor80
    svskor80 5 December 2016 05: 51
    +22
    The article is sound thoughts. But it is clear that the stratum that has seized hold of the authorities will not share with anyone just like that. And there are two options: either the government forces us to share, or the elements of the crowd begin. And this is a very important reason for the "Maidans", "Arab springs" used by puppeteers for completely different purposes.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 5 December 2016 05: 57
      +20
      And there are two options: either the power forces to share, or the element of the crowd begins.


      Well, Putin seemed to have felt that the degree in society was heating up and his recent speech related to the country's economy ... however, I must say that the financial oligarchy is now prevailing in RUSSIA ... and these pure water parasites make money from air and natural resources from our territories .. .a this is a dead end in development and sooner or later will end in a social explosion ... I hope PUTIN understands this.
      1. Butters
        Butters 5 December 2016 06: 26
        +7
        On the English-language Wikipedia, in the section Personal wealth, they write that Putin himself has a multi-billion dollar fortune. They lie, of course.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 5 December 2016 06: 34
          +9
          Putin himself has a multi-billion dollar fortune. They lie, of course.


          Lie smile ... he is a representative of a different civilization from ALPHA-CENTAUR ... why should he have empty pieces of paper.
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 50
          +1
          Quote: Butters
          ... multi-billion dollar fortune. They lie, of course.

          Little..."!
          Two-in total! well, maybe three ... Where is there - "a lot."? ...
      2. Alf
        Alf 5 December 2016 19: 54
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Well, Putin seemed to have felt that the degree in society was heating up and his recent speech related to the country's economy ... however, I must say that the financial oligarchy is now prevailing in RUSSIA ... and these pure water parasites make money from air and natural resources from our territories .. .a this is a dead end in development and sooner or later will end in a social explosion ... I hope PUTIN understands this.

        He says a lot of things and understands a lot of things, that's just to officials to sneeze at his words and understanding, and the GDP accepts this calmly. Question-Why does GDP take a job?
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 December 2016 06: 12
      +6
      Quote: svskor80
      The article has common thoughts.

      There are sound thoughts in almost every article, Sergey. In this one too. But the author himself is confused in them.
    3. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 58
      +3
      Quote: svskor80
      ... the layer that has seized upon power will not be shared with anyone just like that.

      ... And - the calculation of the "Gaidars" at one time was exactly for this! They say - they will "get bogged down" onet - well, they will get rich (albeit not always honestly - "except for the first million" according to Rockefeller ...), but that's it! It is then that "they" will give the country an "impetus to development": they will invest and invest ... develop and lay ... and so on!
      ... But it turned out - they gave it, but a kick in ... well, of course! And they put it in their pockets ... and they put it in - and continue to do it with relish - more and more for themselves "by the collar"! ...
    4. vlad_vlad
      vlad_vlad 5 December 2016 13: 29
      0
      svskor80 Today, 05:51 New
      The article has common thoughts. But it is clear that the layer that has seized power will not be shared with anyone just like that. And there are two options: either the power forces to share, or the element of the crowd begins.


      ashamed, very ashamed. You forgot the third option - the election. or do you not believe in this instrument of democracy? You have been choosing Putin for 16 years. The people for. 86% All options except elections are options against Putin. What are you calling for, huh?
      1. Alf
        Alf 5 December 2016 19: 58
        0
        Quote: vlad_vlad
        ashamed, very ashamed. You forgot the third option - the election. or do you not believe in this instrument of democracy? You have been choosing Putin for 16 years. The people for. 86% All options except elections are options against Putin. What are you calling for, huh?

        And you take an interest in the turnout, instead of talking about 86%.
        Many people have not been going to the polls for many years, and with scandals it turns out that they are constantly voting for United Russia. If we now hold elections to the State Duma and the president, but HONESTLY count, it is unlikely that the EP will get something serious.
  6. ImPerts
    ImPerts 5 December 2016 06: 07
    +7
    Our economists, Gaidar’s scholars, believe that rich people extract their super-profits directly from themselves, through the anus, or some other flesh-colored hole.

    Well, did the Prokhorov demonstrator of the y-mobile ?! And he taxied with biathlon.
    the fiscal burden on individuals has reached the level of 43-48 percent of income from direct and compulsory payments and levies in extra-budgetary funds. This is supplemented by indirect levies: real estate and transport taxes, excise taxes, payments for public services ...

    ... Note that the French authorities plan next year to raise the bar "tax for the rich." From 2013 of the year for the French, whose income exceeds 1,3 million euros, it will amount to 75 percent ...
    How much to take from them, 13% or 70% is the tenth question.

    I'm still for the progressive tax scale.
    And about the opening of companies, firms and the rest ... I remember Rockefeller and his "I can account for every million I earn, except the first."
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 December 2016 06: 14
      +6
      Quote: ImPerts
      Well, did the Prokhorov demonstrator of the y-mobile ?! And he taxied with biathlon.

      And now he has sold assets in Russia and dumped it over a hill.
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 5 December 2016 07: 54
        +3
        And where is this mobile? And where is the biathlon both with him and without him. There were no results and no. Balabol Prokhorov. And already faded.
        1. ImPerts
          ImPerts 5 December 2016 08: 17
          +1
          Quote: astronom1973n
          And already faded

          Here I am about that.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 5 December 2016 21: 12
          +2
          Quote: astronom1973n
          And where is this mobile?

          At Zhirinovsky. negative
    2. Alf
      Alf 5 December 2016 20: 01
      0
      Quote: ImPerts
      Note that the French authorities plan next year to raise the bar "tax for the rich."

      This means that in Russia the number of French with Russian citizenship will increase sharply. And what’s interesting, those foreigners flee to us, on whom tax evasion cases are opened in their homelands.
  7. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 06: 08
    +25
    So much for capitalism ... Why are you dissatisfied? There is no money, but you hold on - this is the whole principle of the economy of modern Russia. The article, in my opinion, does not say the main thing. It is not said that the entire economy is based on large-scale production. There is no large-scale production (and in Russia it is less and less with every squandered enterprise) - there is no income. There is nowhere to get money if citizens give money abroad, buying all sorts of smartphones and computers (and this is not the fault of citizens, but the state, which, mlyn, has forgotten how to produce microcircuits), and the money received for oil is deposited not in the treasury, but in the pockets of the oligarchs who are now called "effective managers." And both Uncle Vova and Uncle Dima understand all this perfectly well, they just have a s.r.a.t. for our problems, they have their own party that needs to be fed (otherwise, you will fly out of all posts, because the oligarchy is more important than all possible presidents ). We need Lenin and Stalin, they have proved in practice that they can and want to create. The socialist economy needs to be built. No matter how hard they tried it and throughout the Soviet era, the OBO.S.R.A.T. and our powers that be led by the guarantor have not yet come up with a better one. And if we continue to "manage" like this, then - kirdyk to us.
    1. fif21
      fif21 5 December 2016 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: Comrade Glebov
      So much for capitalism ... What are you unhappy with? There is no money, but you hold on - that’s the whole principle of the economy of modern Russia.

      Maybe enough to gloat? What has been done in Russia in 26 years, other countries have never dreamed of. From the devastation of the 90s and the IMF's debts to the gold reserves of 2016 From general poverty to fantastic conditions. hi
      1. Comrade Glebov
        Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 15: 28
        +5
        And I do not gloat, I, s.uk.a., it is a shame that with the richest resources and far from the most mediocre, and not at all lazy people, the country lives, which is embarrassing, in poverty. A bunch of loafers are fattening, the only plus of which is that they faithfully, like puppies, look at the guarantor. About what has been done in 26 years, I will send you back to the recent past. Over the first five five-year periods (i.e., over 25 years), 19 thousand large industrial enterprises, over 300 thousand collective farms, over 90 thousand primary and over 60 secondary schools, 4 thousand high schools and technical schools were built, annually reduced prices. And note, not just after the looting of the 90s, but after the full-fledged first world and civil warrior. So, I, perhaps, have something to compare, although here, perhaps, I have to compare a tree with a straw. hi
        1. fif21
          fif21 5 December 2016 17: 49
          0
          Quote: Comrade Glebov
          During the first five five-year periods (i.e., over 25 years) 19 thousand large industrial enterprises were built, over 300 thousand collective farms, over 90 thousand primary and over 60 secondary schools, 4 thousand universities and technical schools, annually reduced prices.
          You like the complete power of the state over the people, slave labor (peasants and workers), for the sake of the crazy idea of ​​the world revolution. Who in the USSR was interested in the interests of ordinary people not in words but in practice? As Kuzma Prutkov said, you want to be happy, be it! Although any government that does not care about the welfare of the people is doomed. hi
          1. Comrade Glebov
            Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 20: 34
            +2
            Quote: fif21
            Do you like the complete power of the state over the people

            What does full or incomplete state power over the people mean? smile The fact that the responsibility to the state was higher is yes, but the people are the main part of the state. And in general, the state, as the classics say, is an apparatus of violence, and the fact that now they are yelling about certain "freedoms" and "democracies" has not become freer and more democratic. I will answer with the words of Stalin: "It is difficult for me to imagine what kind of" personal freedom "can be for an unemployed who walks hungry and does not find the use of his labor. Real freedom exists only where exploitation is abolished, where there is no oppression of some people by others, where there is no unemployment and begging, where a person does not tremble for the fact that tomorrow he may lose his job, home, bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and any other freedom possible "Do not add or subtract.
            Quote: fif21
            slave labor (peasants and workers), for the sake of the crazy idea of ​​the world revolution

            I would argue about the delusions of ideas, but I won’t, because, I think, you have not read the classics and speak Yeltsin’s cliches, as well as many others. As for slave labor, then in what was he slave? The fact that the work was normalized (I do not take the period of the War, well, you yourself understand), was well (and most importantly worthy) paid? Yes, and they worked for the most part for themselves, because Stalin set the task of building socialism in a separate state, and only then in the rest of the world, but of course you cannot know this.
            Quote: fif21
            Who in the USSR was interested in the interests of ordinary people not in words but in practice?

            Considering how much more benefits were then compared to the current period, and most importantly (!), Compared to the previous one, ordinary people were really interested in the campaign of the country’s government.
            Quote: fif21
            Although any government that does not care about the welfare of the people is doomed

            Gold words. Tell Putin. And then he seems to have forgotten or does not know. hi
            1. fif21
              fif21 5 December 2016 21: 33
              +1
              Quote: Comrade Glebov
              As for slave labor, then in what was it slave labor? The fact that the work was normalized (I do not take the period of the War, well, you yourself understand), was well (and most importantly worthy) paid?
              Payment to collective farmers in workdays lol The ban on residence changes (lack of passports) of the Gulag labor army is an effective manager of Comrade. Beria! And the party-Soviet elite has a servant and lives under communism. What's in the zones, in the cities - houses of the barracks type. Immense spending on defense, the Communist Parties of the world, third world countries that declared the building of socialism ... And where is the concern for people?
              Quote: Comrade Glebov
              then the campaign of the government of the country ordinary people really interested.

              I was born under the rule of Khrushchev, and I do not need to hang noodles on my ears! Not at the party meeting. Do you remember the article of the Criminal Code on parasitism? You do not want to work for the state for a penny, you will work in the area for a piece of bread wassat You are our caring am
              1. Comrade Glebov
                Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 21: 58
                +2
                Quote: fif21
                I was born under the rule of Khrushchev, and I do not need to hang noodles on my ears!

                My dear man, and my father was born under Stalin, and I also do not need to hang noodles on my ears. Especially killed
                Quote: fif21
                Immense defense spending
                laughing Probably, it was necessary to go out with sticks against tanks.
                Quote: fif21
                What's in the zones, in the cities - houses of the barracks type

                You might think that most of the comfortable housing in the cities was built under the Democrats. lol I have acquaintances, ordinary "slaves" (grandpa-anti-aircraft gunner and grandma, a veteran of socialist labor, both non-partisan) for some reason live in "Stalin". The Stalinist is probably a barrack too?
                Do you remember the article of the Criminal Code on parasitism?
                And I not only remember, but also approve of the situation in the USSR.
                Quote: fif21
                Do you want to work for the state for a penny
                Work for a penny for uncle! laughing
                And the party-soviet elite having a maid
                Oh horror ... our rogue deputies are not at all surrounded by helpful lackeys ... And as for the party elite, you don’t need much, you weren’t there, and everyone knows how to speak with cliches wink
                Quote: fif21
                And where is the concern for people?

                Well, develop your eyes and look at the ratio of prices to salaries, the quality of health care, social protection, and suddenly it turns out that the world, it turns out, is not what it seemed with eyes closed.
                1. fif21
                  fif21 5 December 2016 22: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Comrade Glebov
                  Well, develop your eyes and look at the ratio of prices to salaries, the quality of health care, social protection, and suddenly it turns out that the world, it turns out, is not what it seemed with eyes closed.

                  Go outside and take a look! What do people ride, in what houses and cottages they live, how they dress, where they go and fly, how they are treated in paid clinics, and remember the joy of a Soviet man - to buy a bottle of vodka, get his wife boots, and, about happiness, buy a Moskvich car lol
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 6 December 2016 17: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: fif21
                    What people ride on, in what houses and cottages they live, how they dress, where they go and fly, how they are treated in paid clinics,

                    Please tell me in which mansion you live, in which boutiques you dress, where you went for the last time to relax, in which paid clinic you are treated?
                    If I see that a buyer comes out of a Pierre Cardin with a pile of Chinese junk at space prices, then I know that this is one in 1000.
                2. fif21
                  fif21 5 December 2016 22: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Comrade Glebov
                  You might think that most of the comfortable housing in cities was built under the Democrats. I now have acquaintances ordinary "slaves" (grandpa-anti-aircraft gunner and grandma a veteran of socialist labor, both non-partisan) for some reason live in "Stalin"
                  Communal and
                  "Khrushchevs" - comfortable housing? belay And "Stalin" is for the Soviet-party elite wink
              2. Alf
                Alf 6 December 2016 17: 37
                +1
                Quote: fif21
                barrack houses

                The design of the Khrushchev buildings began under the "bloody tyrant". Moreover, they were planned as "temporary housing" for a period of 20 years.
                Quote: fif21
                Immense defense spending

                Otherwise, we would say, What do you want, mister? Do you know anything about the Dropshot plan?
                Quote: fif21
                third world countries that declared the construction of socialism ...

                For example, fed Angola and Mozambique .. And you know how many minerals the USSR brought from Africa? If you count, all the help to these young countries cost much less than the search, the extraction of these materials at home.
                Quote: fif21
                Do you remember the article of the Criminal Code on parasitism? You do not want to work for the state for a penny, you will work in the area for a piece of bread

                And why should I work, and the neighbor, not working anywhere, enjoy all the social benefits that I pay? Recall how highways were built in Bucksland, and what orders were there?
                Quote: fif21
                Payment to collective farmers in workdays

                Do you know a song of 16 tons? Tell us how, until the mid-50s of the 20th century, the labor of miners in the USA was paid. Not in workdays?
            2. fif21
              fif21 5 December 2016 21: 48
              0
              Quote: Comrade Glebov
              True freedom exists only where exploitation is destroyed, where there is no oppression of some people by others.

              Heather Comrade Stalin! laughing Is the exploitation of the people by the state normal? Where are you now guardians for the people? The bourgeois people are bending, but have you at least one strike, at least one protest rally? Have at least one independent union been organized? You won’t be full of fiery speeches, and the second time the people will not follow you — you (the CPSU) have completely discredited the ideas of communism!
              1. Comrade Glebov
                Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 22: 08
                0
                Quote: fif21
                Have you at least one strike, at least one protest rally?

                And not one, on the first channel the truth is not shown, but our shares are enough.
                Quote: fif21
                the second time the people will not follow you - you (the CPSU) have completely discredited the ideas of communism!

                Oh, that’s probably because I now have a little more 100 statements (mainly from youth) on the table asking me to join the party? Well, yes, we don’t work with the people, and we don’t campaign in schools and universities, and no one shares our values.
                Quote: fif21
                Is the exploitation of the people by the state normal?

                And what is exploitation in your understanding? What was so terrible that the state did under Stalin? What a terrible job? That in the right direction directed labor intolerable? Or is it that the standard of living is much better provided? Well, then there were no feeders for the "idyllic managers", there was no opportunity to fatten (and for the tops of the desks too). And how people lived then people ... laughing
                1. fif21
                  fif21 5 December 2016 22: 57
                  0
                  Quote: Comrade Glebov
                  Well, then there were no feeders for the "idyllic managers", there was no opportunity to fatten (and for the tops of the desks too).
                  There were no brothels at Galka, and there were no special dispensers, and there were no free cottages, and there were no bribes, thefts and postscripts wassat Well the people then threw you in 90?
                  Quote: Comrade Glebov
                  Oh, that’s probably because there’s a little more than 100 statements on my desk right now (mostly from youth

                  It’s a pity the youth, sincerely sorry, would they know that you are preparing them hi
              2. Alf
                Alf 6 December 2016 17: 43
                +2
                Quote: fif21
                Heather Comrade Stalin! Is the exploitation of the people by the state normal?

                Yes, I worked for the state. And I knew that my work would return to me.
                And work on the bourgeois is normal?
        2. Victor N
          Victor N 5 December 2016 18: 00
          +1
          And how did the little men live during the time of grandiose construction projects? Oh, they got it! In the early 60s, hunger, queues for bread ..... They built and built, when they built they didn’t have to use it anymore, life passed. It was impossible to even complain about a shitty life. These are our grandfathers and parents took out everything, it is a pity them very much.
          And the article is provocative, illiterate, but the people somehow started! It is easy to breed people and send the whole herd to the minefield. In honor of the anniversary ...
          1. Comrade Glebov
            Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 20: 43
            +3
            And how do you like? Grandiose construction projects are grandiose ones that require a lot of work, effort and organizational talent. And they built them for the benefit of future generations, the goal was and people believed in this goal. And it was impossible without construction projects; the tsarist government did not leave anything in the inheritance. So I had to electrify a huge country, train, industrialize, establish logistics, and most importantly, protect. You think, probably, stolen by democrats on trees grew? No, the little men do. And so that our children would eat tasty and well-fed tomorrow, it is precisely today that we will have to dig in. One misfortune, yesterday we built a state together, which gave protection, fed and ruled, and today we feed our uncle the most offensive one, which is not his own. We do not live better, and most importantly, very often aimlessly.
      2. Alf
        Alf 5 December 2016 20: 04
        +1
        Quote: fif21
        From general poverty to fantastic states.

        And can you find out the size of your fantastic condition? And it turns out that all around me are owners of gigantic fortunes? But men don’t know ...
        1. fif21
          fif21 5 December 2016 21: 54
          0
          Quote: Alf
          And can you find out the size of your fantastic condition?

          Why are you interested in? wassat I have no condition laughing I’m interrupting with kvass hi
          1. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2016 17: 22
            0
            Quote: fif21
            Quote: Alf
            And can you find out the size of your fantastic condition?
            Why are you interested in? I don’t have a condition. I interrupt from radish to kvass

            Not "interested", but "interested." Do you understand the difference?
            You wrote that about the fantastic conditions around, which means you also have it.
  8. populist
    populist 5 December 2016 06: 27
    +4
    The tax system should regulate relations - transferring resources from inefficient hands to efficient ones, that’s the point. It should put pressure on the dead, rental income - and vice versa, to encourage living income,

    It was something of Vazgen. Well, not taxes govern business activity.
    1. fif21
      fif21 5 December 2016 09: 38
      0
      Quote: populist
      It was something of Vazgen. Well, not taxes govern business activity.

      He writes correctly. And you are right that not only taxes. What is more profitable - pay income tax or invest part of the income in development? hi
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 5 December 2016 18: 06
        +1
        So you can not pose the question. No one asks - do I have to pay tax? Need to! And investments are needed! But this is a difficult specific question, in the kitchen or at a rally (on the forum) is not solved. The author of the article is not a specialist, he got into his own business.
      2. Alf
        Alf 5 December 2016 20: 06
        +2
        Quote: fif21
        to invest part of the income in development?

        In the development of what industries are our oligarchs invested? Football clubs, please do not mention.
        1. fif21
          fif21 5 December 2016 21: 57
          0
          Quote: Alf
          In the development of what industries are our oligarchs invested? Football clubs, please do not mention.
          So I am about the same! Like these ghouls, make money not spend on luxury, but on economic development. hi
          1. Comrade Glebov
            Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 22: 13
            +2
            Answer laughing GU-tara-pa-pa-pa-pa-pam, LA-tara-pa-pa-pa-pa-pam, G NU - tiri-pi-pi-pi-pi-pim, WIFE - tiri-pi-pi peep peep! GULAG NEEDED!
          2. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2016 17: 24
            0
            Quote: fif21
            So I am about the same! Like these ghouls, make money not spend on luxury, but on economic development.

            This is impossible in principle, not for the reason that these ghouls pumped them out of their country.
  9. Sars
    Sars 5 December 2016 06: 48
    +5
    Quote: 210ox
    Industry thrown back with the people

    This is called the "accumulation mode".

    Only sectors in which the Administration bringing the shekel kogala are interested are supported.
    The rest is stifled.
  10. Phosgene
    Phosgene 5 December 2016 07: 01
    +5
    At one time, such grief reformers brought even the British navy to revolt, and not today, but at the beginning of the 20th century. This once again confirms the long-standing expression “Well fed does not understand hungry.” It's time for you and your company to resign, Dmitry Anatolyevich. There is no need to bring Russia to revolution.
  11. base66
    base66 5 December 2016 07: 03
    +4
    we built built and finally built - even living disgusting!
  12. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 5 December 2016 07: 10
    +10
    The author correctly noted that, unlike many "civilized countries", the Russian government and others like them believe that the functions of the state are not helping the citizens of the country to "reveal" their talents and abilities to the fullest extent for the prosperity of the country, but the role of a police officer who collects bribes from all citizens of the country for the right to live in this territory and in general for the right to live ...
  13. valent45
    valent45 5 December 2016 07: 10
    +5
    I believe the degree of discontent among the population will increase exponentially.
    Once patience will end. The main thing is that at the end the oligarchs are not allowed to escape over the hill.
    1. Comrade Glebov
      Comrade Glebov 5 December 2016 07: 25
      +14
      It will be, it will be. It's just that when it overflows, this "overflow" will be declared "Maidan-paid-for-the West" and mercenaries and the so-called "Russian Guard" will be sent down on it. There will be a lot of blood, unfortunately, but the people will win anyway.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 42
        +1
        Quote: Comrade Glebov
        and they will unleash mercenaries and the so-called "national guard" on him. There will be a lot of blood, unfortunately, but the people will win anyway.

        ... and what about the "Russian Guard"?
        Cossacks at one time - ground, only now they are still starting to wake up! And we will cope with the "Rosguard" - as with any paid oprichnina!
        1. Victor N
          Victor N 5 December 2016 18: 10
          +1
          Exactly what happened in Kiev, as you write. Observe the result.
          So we went to the Maidan ....
      2. Alf
        Alf 5 December 2016 20: 08
        +1
        Quote: Comrade Glebov
        It will be, it will be. It's just that when it overflows, this "overflow" will be declared "Maidan-paid-for-the West" and mercenaries and the so-called "Russian Guard" will be sent down on it. There will be a lot of blood, unfortunately, but the people will win anyway.

        As they say, if five hundred people come to the rally, the police will disperse them.
        If five thousand, the police will show restraint.
        If fifty thousand, the police will go over to their side.
      3. fif21
        fif21 5 December 2016 21: 59
        +1
        Quote: Comrade Glebov
        but the people will win anyway.
        And again, you propose building a bright future laughing To which the people will not live wassat
  14. Nix1986
    Nix1986 5 December 2016 07: 15
    +9
    I would start small and simple, with the fight against corruption, and so I’m close to work and from open sources:
    So, in the fall of 2014, for treatment in 2015, the Department of Health purchased the drug Irinotecan 100 mg at a price of 518 rubles for a total amount of 3,885 million rubles. A year later, when purchasing for 2016, the same medicine was already purchased at a price of 5844 rubles per bottle - for a total of 27,846 million rubles. It turns out that over the year the price of a domestic drug rose by more than 11 times. And this is the life of our citizens.
    Well, where are our bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ?!
    And this is a very small part of the cuts in the budget.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 38
      +5
      Quote: Nix1986
      I would start small and simple, with the fight against corruption, ...
      ... Well, where are our bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ?!
      And this is a very small part of the cuts in the budget.

      Here we need to understand that corruption in our state - the main backbone factor!
      1. Nix1986
        Nix1986 5 December 2016 08: 58
        +3
        That is why I am disgusted by the current situation in the country, when people consider it a flock of sheep, which only needs to show 20 reinforcement on the Red Square and instill the feeling that for complete happiness we only need a birch tree at the house and a can of pickled cucumbers.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 5 December 2016 10: 08
      +3
      I would start small and simple,
      you seem to think about the country, so you will not be allowed to start.
      and we must fight not corruption, but corrupt officials.
  15. Stinger
    Stinger 5 December 2016 07: 20
    +2
    Why why. Because we have implemented the principle:
    Who knows, but does not know how, he teaches
    Who knows how, but does not know, he does
    Whoever knows and can, he sits
    He who does not know and does not know how, he leads
  16. aleck-nagaj
    aleck-nagaj 5 December 2016 07: 20
    +7
    You, greedy crowd at the throne,
    Liberty, Genius and Glory hangmen!
    You are ransacked under the law,
    Before you, the court and the truth - keep quiet! ..
    But there is also God's judgment, confidants of debauchery!
    There is a terrible trial: he is waiting;
    It is not accessible to the ringing of gold,
    He knows thoughts and deeds in advance.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 36
      0
      Quote: aleck-nagaj
      There is a terrible trial: he is waiting;
      It is not accessible to the ringing of gold,
      He knows thoughts and deeds in advance.

      ... propose to usurp the rights of "God's judgment"?
      It is logical! And - rightly so ... Popov - drown! Bogateev - to the wall! Gendarmes and officers - to the lanterns .... or "to the gilyaku"? "Inelikhentia" - to saw the taiga, and - so that at the butt, where is thicker ...
      ---------------------
      Cover up rabid nihilism with the venerable Mikhail Yurievich ?! ...
  17. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 5 December 2016 07: 26
    +8
    Poor people, because of their natural honesty, do not know how to lie and boil. They were taught to work honestly, and honestly earn their piece of bread.
  18. Burivad
    Burivad 5 December 2016 07: 33
    +1
    They blamed everything on the government. Maybe it's not about the government, it's just a war. With each generation, the war acquires more and more new shades, such as economic, social, then the substitution of the value of life for materiality ... it seems that everywhere there are undermines and explosions. I think that we do not want to accept that there is a war going on or that it is being imposed on us, that everything is fine. We do not see the enemy and do not know the goals of this war. If you remember how the war began in 41. The fascists had not yet seized a decent territory of Russia - our people thought that they would not attack us.
  19. Alex66
    Alex66 5 December 2016 07: 54
    +4
    Well, what, now we have chosen capitalism to complain, and this man is a wolf to man. In order to live in abundance for everyone, who works, there is everything and technology and raw materials, but the capitalist is not interested in this; he is worried about him, his wishes, his children, and those who work for him, he is ready to feed, give shelter, but to a minimum. And there is nothing to complain about the system like that. Only by understanding that the social is higher than the personal, we will live humanly. And Putin and Medvedev do not want to understand this. And yes, without large industries there will be no small enterprises, money will not be all back to natural exchange a couple of centuries ago.
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2016 07: 56
    +2
    Lord, what a mess the author has in his head. I would read the classics - the functions of the state, the foundations of the economy - and so on. Ugh, even reluctant to discuss. One thought - I don't want to pay taxes, because IT'S NOT JUST! Yes, it's unfair. But it is necessary.
  21. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 5 December 2016 07: 59
    +8
    1. In the USSR there was not and could not be legally rich people (rich = billions - and not rubles, but dollars)
    2. Nobody could honestly and legally privatize "factories, newspapers, ships"by their real cost (and not at the sale, residual, collateral and other prices).
    3. The seizure of the privatized will not be so much an act of justice, but an act legality.
    4. A proportional privatization account is set up in the name of each citizen (the largest are for the current pensioners who created this property). On the order of magnitude - in one Gazprom 23 billion shares; in Rosneft - 10 billion and so on. The account is inalienable - for the period until the capitalization of Russian companies grows to a normal value.

    Everyone is rich. Justice prevails. A middle class is emerging - in the volume of almost the entire population.

    Additional bonuses:
    1. The withdrawal of capital stops - pensioners do not need to withdraw anything anywhere; if only in cash when traveling.
    2. The monstrous salaries and bonuses of top managers disappear. Nobody will simply vote for them (especially the Federal Property Management Agency!)
    3. Completely unproductive spending of the nouveau riche disappears - football clubs, private jets, yachts, etc.

    laughing laughing laughing
  22. cap
    cap 5 December 2016 08: 07
    +3
    Excellent article not in the eyebrow but in the eye.
    Thank you to the author. True, there is nothing new in it, our ancestors did not live well and bequeathed to us.
    Why does a Russian peasant need money? laughing drinks
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 December 2016 09: 43
      +7
      Quote: cap
      Why does a Russian peasant need money?

      Anatoly, hello. With this postulate, apparently according to the state. For some reason, I disagree. Today I was in the hospital, the nurse gets 10 thousand. On the day off she works part-time in the next department. Spinning like a squirrel in a wheel. Our deputies would be so cool, but for such a salary. We would not have capitalism, but communism.
    2. fif21
      fif21 5 December 2016 22: 03
      +1
      Quote: cap
      Why does a Russian peasant need money. He'll drink it anyway.
      Where don't you kiss the soldier - around the priest? lol
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 5 December 2016 08: 13
    +2
    while we have people for the state, and not the state for the people, then with such a policy of effective managers we will definitely go far ... hi
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 5 December 2016 18: 18
      +1
      The social contract between the people and the state is prescribed in the Constitution. No other form of contract was invented. Your suggestions - what to add? And what to exclude? Just think seriously, do not rush to answer.
      Decisions must be made in the constitutional field, specifying provisions and developing them in laws. Any other actions will entail riot-blood-devastation.
      Do not give in!
  24. CONTROL
    CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 15
    +4
    the rich - in the version of economics from Gaidar and Kudrin - know how to poop with money.
    Lanisters, or what? ...
    a rich man is not one who has been given little, but one who has been given a lot.
    ... but - to whom much has been given, so the demand is greater!
    -----------------
    Disputes "over" and discussions of Russian tax policy are endless! And the sense in that - "add zero to zero and multiply by zero ...".
    ... But I, for example - despite the fact that I "understand" and calculate, and finally ... I still do not understand the economic meaning of VAT - well, except for the introduction of it as an effective tool of destruction production (!!!) spheres of the national economy .... And prompted "Entu the most VAT" - aha! - transatlantic "consultant economists", a kind of neo-Keyesians ...
    -------------
    The main thing is the lack of ideology in the construction of the state! What do we want from him - from the state? For everyone to be rich? billionaires? It is unlikely ... and indeed impossible - we have already passed it! "... I fly into the buffet - not a penny of money! Change ten million ..."
    Social security and confidence in the future is another matter ... Maybe this is what you should think about? AND? Well, at least start to think about him, about the welfare state? ...
    And then, God forbid - all the women will die out or run away "to work" outside our "great and mighty" ... who then "still give birth to little people" ?! by yourself, go, and not go too far ... it's troublesome to do people! Give birth, grow, feed, heal, teach and educate - for 18-20 years, or even more! ... But to kill such "wealth", given with such difficulty - a second will be enough! ...
  25. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 5 December 2016 08: 17
    +9
    Good article. And the comments surprised me with nationalism. A person writes about Russian realities, but nationality is put forward as a counterargument. Not ashamed ? Why such wretchedness - the spelling of the surname does not even speak of nationality, this commentary is written completely in Russian, and also, there are many people with Russian surnames and place of birth, and in fact are Russophobes. I didn’t expect from EvgNik: I understand that your company was destroyed by a person not Russian, but enterprises were massively destroyed all over the country and it was done mainly by Russians, and the leaders at the regional level are not a correct remark.
    Essentially: the article is correct. The mechanism of governing the country is such that the people have no opportunity to raise their level of income. The current system makes it possible to increase the income of only a small part of the population and this lottery ticket draws out one of many, and not necessarily the best. A stably functioning mechanism presupposes high incomes to representatives of one group connected by friendly and family ties. A fiscal bar has been set against the rest of the population, which does not allow the accumulation of even small capital to create a private family business.
    The mechanism of pressure on the people is inherent in everything. Starting with taxes, when 13% is deducted from any patch, and the population mostly has no other income, any real estate and car is taxed, although incomes are below the subsistence level. And there are benefits in excess of income, there is no full accrual of social tax on their payment, yes, the social tax there reaches 5%, and therefore there is a shortage of funds, that there are benefits for high incomes, mind you not for those who have a salary below the subsistence level.
    The state climbs into the pockets of the people and shares it with speculators when the ruble falls, while inflation makes the population's savings insignificant. The depreciation of the ruble is followed by an increase in the price of gasoline, which automatically entails an increase in the price of all products. How inflation is calculated is a mystery, but even here the people suffer. For a person with low incomes, in terms of the set of goods and services consumed, inflation is always much higher than the official one, and for those with super-profits, there is no inflation, on the contrary, many of them profit from inflation.
    Is there improvement for the people? No, the fiscal bar will only go lower. Look, the state encourages the development of advertising. And the final payer to advertisers is the people: it is the people who will buy the goods in which advertising fees are included, and the fact that you did not buy advertising Panangin or Cardiomagnyl does not mean that the obligation to pay for advertising will not affect you, you will pay 3 times more for asparkam or another type of aspirin - the cost of advertising is scattered across the entire range of products. And it's hard to believe that the situation can change: the entire state apparatus is working to legitimize the wishes of those who come up with new ways to take money from the population. Taking care of investments as economic development. But this is also the pressure of the fiscal bar for the population. If you take a loan, then you pay interest, not a little, but having paid off the loan, a person is free from paying the bank. And investments are funds invested in some kind of enterprise in order to generate income, i.e. The investor will receive this income until the liquidation of the enterprise takes place, and these payments to the investor will be included in the cost of the output, i.e. the final and infinite payer will also be the people. At one of the forums, a Russian representative said that investors would be allowed into the housing and utilities sector, i.e. the people will also have to pay the investor. And the people are still a source of "long-term money", take the same overhaul. % Is not charged on the accumulated funds, someone uses these funds, making profit, and for the population there is a depreciation of the money invested.
    In general, the statement of a big man can be paraphrased, taking into account the realities: "We know that the people have nothing, but you must help the super-rich get rich."
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 December 2016 08: 23
      +2
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The mechanism of governing the country is such that the people have no opportunity to raise their level of income.

      ... how is it "no possibility"?
      And - to steal ?! Immediately - and a lot !!!
      ------
      (Most SO and got rich - "letterhead, stamp and fountain pen": universal "means of production"!)
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 5 December 2016 10: 50
        +2
        Quote: CONTROL
        Quote: olimpiada15
        The mechanism of governing the country is such that the people have no opportunity to raise their level of income.

        ... kha-haak this is "no possibility"?
        And - to steal ?! Immediately - and a lot !!!
        ------
        (Most SO and got rich - "letterhead, stamp and fountain pen": universal "means of production"!)

        Haha, there is already a classic: "Everything is stolen before you",
        true with the addition,
        "if you find a way to cash in, it will soon become the income of those who have reserved the right to take any tidbits in the country for themselves."
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 5 December 2016 11: 13
      +4
      Quote: olimpiada15
      Didn't expect from EvgNik

      I'm sorry, namesake, I didn't look in the Internet. The first decent Armenian I met, moreover, opposes the migration of foreigners to Russia, and in our city, the population of which has decreased by half, there are a lot of Armenians. And their number is only increasing. I just automatically reacted to the Armenian surname.
      1. olimpiada15
        olimpiada15 5 December 2016 19: 32
        +2
        I also do not like it when the diaspora of newcomers begins to crowd out the local population, but it cannot be extended to the whole nation. Some come and fit into local conditions and it is impossible to spread the guilt of the group on everyone. Each person has their own life and their own circumstances. It is necessary to judge by deeds. She was genuinely indignant when the skinheads beat the test pilot Tolbuev. Any test pilot is a hero for his country.
        Somehow there was a dialogue with Atalef - there is nothing to say - belonging to the nation that causes rejection. People are different and nationality is just an indirect sign. Sincerely.
  26. Victor N
    Victor N 5 December 2016 08: 23
    0
    This is what genre? Where did it grow?
  27. Altona
    Altona 5 December 2016 08: 36
    +14
    Quote: Finches
    An article from the series about rocking the boat on the eve of the 100th Revolution ... laughing

    I will not comment on anything, because after my innocent posts, especially on the topics "Russia, which we are about ... lost," the figure in the red circle is growing - and it is not far from the ban! Therefore, I joined the slender ranks of comrades with the motto: "Okay!"

    --------------------------------
    And the boat is already swinging. The country lives not only in megalopolises, although life there is already so-so. There are a large number of single-industry towns in the country, where enterprises with 2000 jobs are closed, but at best they are opening 100. This is not an adequate substitute for normal employment. Each workplace feeds 2-3 people. And the GDP is talking about "national savings", maybe it is already necessary to talk about "dogsShuvalovsaving"? Well, take the city of Yuryevets in the Ivanovo region. This is the same horror that the city has become like, a ghost town with peeling walls. And so the middle lane in life is not favored and tear like sticky, but now in general. To someone Allah gives money, and from someone the Orthodox God takes the last, so what? If we paraphrase a well-known saying, then apparently so. Now lovers of loud slogans like "you love your Motherland, but against the state" will come running. I am not against the state, I am against the crooks in the state that sabotage its development and rob it.
  28. Altona
    Altona 5 December 2016 08: 45
    +5
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Lord, what a mess the author has in his head. I would read the classics - the functions of the state, the foundations of the economy - and so on. Ugh, even reluctant to discuss. One thought - I don't want to pay taxes

    -----------------------------------
    Why porridge? The author talks about stimulating the real economy, and only the state can stimulate it, because there are no other large customers in the country. The author wants to pay taxes, but that they are adequate to earnings and that they are not stolen from above. That's all. By the way, here Golikova herself admitted that almost all banks lost state aid of about 820 billion rubles. Which these banks were given to lend to the real sector. That is, this money was stupidly stolen by bankers. And this is not a secret, the crisis of 2009 and 2013 helped banks to profitably turn off speculation with this money and export it in the form of currency abroad.
  29. uskrabut
    uskrabut 5 December 2016 09: 15
    +6
    "most of the participants have no idea not only about the intricacies of economic science, but even about its basics"
    Very rightly noted by the author, Bravo! But on the other hand, this, to put it mildly, makes you think. After all, I and they (in the sense of ministers with other principles) studied from the same books and in the same Soviet universities. Only I have this understanding of where what comes from and where it goes later, remains, and they (in the sense of ministers and other primitives) etched this understanding from their brain. In fact, everything is simple: if I buy something, then I pay all the taxes that the manufacturer of this something has to pay to the state. A vicious circle: the more I get, the more the state gets. Only I don’t poop with money, I receive a monetary allowance from the state, and this is where the fun begins. I don’t know who came up with the ingenious idea, to give the bosses the right to dispose of the wage fund at their own discretion, i.e. at a shamefully low salary, the remaining part of the payments will be distributed by the "just boss". But after all, everyone knows that every boss believes that all the burden of responsibility and all the black and white, and in general, he does all the work personally, which means that all the money remaining except for salaries should be received by him - the very n ........ ... th! But this moment has a jamb: now the boss has no time to work, he is now busy looking for a place where to attach the wealth that has fallen on him. And it adds, BUT AS A RULE NOT IN RUSSIA!
    An obvious pattern suggests itself: the authorities have to pay so much so that they don't think about how to live, but not so much to worry about preserving and disposing of surpluses. Those. the boss should receive only a decent salary without any bonuses and bonuses, and should be fined for failure to fulfill his duties. Workers, however, should receive decent wages (K. Marx wrote about this for a long time), since they are domestic consumers, that is, the main payers of taxes.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 5 December 2016 11: 33
      +2
      Quote: uskrabut
      the boss should receive only a decent salary without any bonuses and bonuses, and should be fined for failure to fulfill his duties.
      In general, I agree. But there are nuances. The bosses have their own bonus - a career. It can give not only an increase in wages, but also interest, public recognition, etc .; and the article for negligence is not limited by fines.
  30. fif21
    fif21 5 December 2016 09: 20
    +8
    1.For 26 years of bourgeois power, they became rich a) People who, by the will of fate, turned out to be the owners of factories, steamships (directors of state enterprises) b) Bandits (they simply took away and ripped off business) c) Smart people who understand the capitalist economy (very few).
    2. There is a constant redistribution of property, large sharks devour small fish.
    3. Natural monopolies, the state has retained as a safety cushion and a means of filling the budget.
    The state gives preferences to private business, taking the main burden of filling the budget on itself. Personal income tax-13% for everyone, excise taxes, duties, income from the provision of services by state institutions, income from the profit of enterprises with state participation, sale of state property (privatization), other income. And here the most interesting thing begins - hired managers hired by the state become owners of fantastic personal funds, but there is no desire to invest their money in the development of their own business (with rare exceptions). For the development of companies, they use the profits of companies and also pull from the state budget request And the worst thing is that they give preference to imported goods. Conclusion: top managers of state-owned companies are not effective for the development of the domestic economy. And 70% of the population with low income cannot provide a consumer boom in the country. They buy, which is cheaper and at a minimum, and not necessarily domestic goods. The service market is more dead than alive. This is where you need smart, accurate government regulation. Instruments - customs duties, luxury tax, capital withdrawal tax, a progressive scale of income taxation, and confiscation in favor of the state of proceeds from crime. But how much the state will be able to provide preferences to small and medium-sized businesses, and at the same time fulfill its obligations to ensure security, public administration, and social obligations is unknown. hi
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 5 December 2016 11: 20
      +2
      Quote: fif21
      This is where you need it - smart, accurate government regulation

      State protectionism is what it is called. This is a market restriction for foreign goods, but an openness to capital and technology. For some reason, we have the opposite.
  31. free
    free 5 December 2016 09: 34
    +3
    when will we ask our liberals in full!
  32. vetor
    vetor 5 December 2016 09: 49
    +5
    Quote: SarS
    Quote: 210ox
    Industry thrown back with the people

    This is called the "accumulation mode".

    Only sectors in which the Administration bringing the shekel kogala are interested are supported.
    The rest is stifled.

    Likewise, the salaries of officials and the police are more than decent. Compared to factories and factories.
    Yes, only a 6th grade locksmith or an engineer does not find tens of millions during a search.
    The regime has protected itself from indignation.
    There is no sympathy for the swamp liberals.
  33. BAI
    BAI 5 December 2016 10: 01
    +2
    Here is the article. Information, just interesting knowledge - zero, make some noise, get outraged, prove yourself a great economist - it's easy, and what is the result?
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  34. SPACE
    SPACE 5 December 2016 10: 22
    +3
    An article, silent nonsense, from beginning to end. The author proposes to distribute money to everyone and people will start opening production, I wonder where he will get it from, maybe he will build factories, he will find uncorrupted people, etc. ... pah, in short delirium, it makes no sense to comment.
  35. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 5 December 2016 10: 26
    +8
    Not everyone can run a private business. The mentality is often not the same. And small business will not raise the economy. It's not even yesterday, but the day before yesterday. The state has withdrawn itself and does not want to create jobs. As they correctly write here, the authorities have assumed the role of only redistributing the people's wealth. But that's not why we chose her. Where are the high-tech jobs with good wages? Where is the cheap housing on modern technologies? Is our state an effective manager? Not! It is a mediocre, lazy, thieving manager with an unreasonably high salary!
    1. indeveral
      indeveral 5 December 2016 13: 15
      +2
      How not for this? Judging by the elections, everyone is happy with this. Medvedev has repeatedly stated that the government is not obliged to engage in economic development, from the word AT ALL. And the people voted for edrosov. Those who did not come to the polls, it is so de vote for Medvedev and the actions of his government, under the cover of Putin and the United Russia party. Well, if there is such support from the people, then it would be a sin not to assign yourself a bigger bonus and to continue waiting for an increase in oil prices. Well, the people, the people will tolerate, and whatever this patience causes irritation, the President himself will thank him for this patience.
  36. Stanislas
    Stanislas 5 December 2016 11: 14
    +2
    With the exception of rare, pathological personalities, a person is poor not by his own will, but by lack of opportunity. He was not given - so he is poor
    After this author's revelation I did not want to read further. The "depth" of human knowledge is off the charts. If a person chooses a more interesting but low-paying job, given the opportunity to trade fashionable panties on the market, then he - a psycho - must be treated ... wassat
  37. Dekabrist
    Dekabrist 5 December 2016 11: 21
    +7
    The very appearance of the article on the site is surprising.
    A market economy is a redistribution, and an effective redistribution in favor of a few people can be carried out in two ways - by deception and force. Strength is applied in cases where deception is ineffective. Deception is effective only when people cease to understand something, then it is easier to deceive them. This may be a harsh language, but modern society today does not need thinking people,
    the most valuable resource is fools, and since they are rarely born in nature, only a fraction of a percent, then the production of fools must be put on the conveyor. Today, the work of this conveyor begins with a kindergarten.
  38. RPG_
    RPG_ 5 December 2016 11: 22
    +4
    Nonsense. Isn't the meaning of democracy not in the fact that the state no longer controls anything, but gives everything into the hands of the people (more precisely, the part that possesses capital and the more there is, the more opportunities)?
    So on the basis of the article, only one conclusion can be drawn, I need a state system.
  39. den-protector
    den-protector 5 December 2016 11: 27
    +6
    How much more should our population be surprised at all this bourgeois lawlessness that has been happening in the country since 1991. Until the next Troubles, which will sweep away both the guilty and the right? External threats are clear and visible. The real internal threats to Russia are the growing possibility of a social explosion, especially against the background of clumsy attempts by certain forces to "rally" the population into a certain community called the "Russian nation" and obsessive attempts to rehabilitate the white movement, attempts to "reconcile" whites and reds in order to legalize the blatant social inequality, property stratification. The impression is that this is done on purpose in order to undermine society. Redecorating the political and social system will not solve the problem. We need a transition to a new state system - socialism (taking into account the mistakes of the Soviet Union), the nationalization of strategic sectors of the economy, the elimination of private ownership of the means of production. It is necessary to change the ideology (not superficial, official-patriotic), the state system, the mobilization economy and the preparation of the country for a possible global war. Perhaps only a blind man does not see the growing possibility of such a war. We need to cleanse society from top to bottom. And such large-scale events are possible only under socialism, if the leader of the country and his team have political will. They came up with the Day of National Unity as opposed to November 7. What and with whom the hell is unity? What can unite an ordinary person and a commerce person, a snickering bureaucrat or a representative of the "creative intelligentsia." Normal people can only be united by truth and justice. And the attitude towards them among the above categories of the population of Russia is very different. And the bulk of the youth (up to 30 years old) do not care at all, the "chicks of the nest" of J. Soros managed, with the help of a zombie box and other media, to grow up future efficient managers. Lenin's signs of a revolutionary situation are evident. This so-called elite without blood will never part with the back-breaking labor they have acquired. The well-known Russian question arises: who is to blame and what to do?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 December 2016 12: 55
      +11
      yes nonsense that after paying for housing and communal services there are 3 thousand of pension .. let's better laugh over Ukraine, because it's easier at heart!
    2. indeveral
      indeveral 5 December 2016 13: 22
      +8
      Who's guilty? First of all, we ourselves, that every time we bring up a situation when the government is so fucking crazy that its change is possible only through blood.
      What to do? - Fell. Kvachkov made an attempt, he was upekli in full, although the jury acquitted him several times. The article was changed to terrorist, the jury was eliminated. Well, everything is ahead.
    3. Nicholas
      Nicholas 5 December 2016 19: 14
      +2
      No social. Explosions. 500000 nat. Guard for what. The hand will not flinch. Solntseliky said: the time of revolution is over All point.
  40. Altona
    Altona 5 December 2016 13: 04
    +2
    Quote: den-protector
    obsessive attempts to rehabilitate the white movement, attempts to "reconcile" whites and reds in order to legalize blatant social inequality, property stratification.

    ----------------------------------
    - Let's be reconciled, red. Here is a board to Kolchak and Mannerheim
    - Ok, where are the boards to Stalin and Beria?
    - To put executioners and vampires boards? Never!


    The anecdote is fresh for you.
  41. CONTROL
    CONTROL 5 December 2016 13: 33
    +3
    Something I remembered a case from my life: (at the dawn of "perestroika", when the so-called "stock exchanges" abounded - selling materials, equipment and "illiquid assets" stolen from factories, factories and other collective farms and SMU - stocks from excessive zeal of the socialist planned economy):
    - What are you selling?
    - Iron!
    - ??? Like this? What kind of iron?
    - And here! (trying to draw with his hands) ...
    -?
    Takes a pen, a sheet of paper; with difficulty depicts sections of a channel, an I-beam, a corner ...

    --------------
    ... and that's right - iron! ...
    Now it's no longer funny - it's sad ...
  42. pts-m
    pts-m 5 December 2016 13: 54
    +1
    That's right, everyone looks at a glass with water poured into it and pretends that it is incomplete or half filled. Being at the bag of money is easier to reason than to stand in line for this bag.
  43. L10n77
    L10n77 5 December 2016 15: 52
    +3
    Quote: Victor N
    From everything you read and commented on, did you understand what to do? If "yes" - share, I have not mastered it with a meager mind.

    How, what to do, the answer was written by V.I. Ulyanov-Lenin: select and divide, and let the bourgeoisie go to waste.
    1. murriou
      murriou 10 December 2016 10: 21
      0
      Lenin wrote about the construction of a socialist state, Stalin implemented his ideas, it turned out well, and without the bourgeoisie. But it was just about construction, creation, organization. Soviet factories produced more tractors and cars per day than Tsarist Russia in a year.
  44. Kenneth
    Kenneth 5 December 2016 16: 27
    0
    Dear Vazgen. Maybe it's better to try your ideas first in Armenia. The state organizes the income of citizens sorry in the concentration camp
  45. fa2998
    fa2998 5 December 2016 17: 30
    +1
    Quote: lis-ik
    The bottom line is that I received warnings for calling blacks Negroes, we were taught that way in school, there is a black race, and there are Mongoloid ones, etc., for which can Miklukho-Maklaya be canceled? Why should I tolerate a warning if I write the truth that Michelle Obama grimaced like a female chimpanzee while breaking a bottle on a ship, because it was!

    Well, the comment passed, it was not deleted. And plus you (my sixth)! hi
  46. midshipman
    midshipman 5 December 2016 18: 48
    +2
    Thank you Vazgen. I have the honor.
  47. Ru72Ru
    Ru72Ru 5 December 2016 18: 49
    +2
    Well, honestly, not an article with thoughts on what needs and can be done to improve the living standards of people receiving minimum wages, but nagging on a vinyl record "stuck" in a circle about the unfair distribution of state benefits.
    1. erofich
      erofich 5 December 2016 19: 11
      +3
      I disagree with you. The article is just about the dividers who broadcast that everyone else is lazy, since they are not rich or do not want to become one. And about what can and should be done - these are all questions to our government, which - for some reason, is still in power, with their success!
  48. Nicholas
    Nicholas 5 December 2016 19: 09
    +6
    I repeat 1001 times. 1993 shot to the Supreme Council. The victory of the bourgeois. It is the bourgeois who are enjoying the fruits of their victory. All other words are nightingale trills. They certainly please the ear, but nothing more.
  49. Torins
    Torins 5 December 2016 20: 36
    +2
    It is a pity that nothing will change ((The economy has always been the Achilles heel of the Slavic peoples :(
  50. fix
    fix 7 December 2016 09: 58
    0
    It looks like a custom article. In terms of style and message - "it's not a progressive scale ..."
    1. Vasya_kuvalesov
      Vasya_kuvalesov 11 December 2016 12: 23
      0
      8t. Your pensions and the article will no longer seem custom