Romania will order 4 new corvette SIGMA

The Romanian military department announced a plan according to which the country's Navy will receive the 4 corvette of the SIGMA project in the coming years, according to MIC with reference to warspot.ru.

“SIGMA (Ship Integrated Geometrical Modularity Approach) corvettes were developed by the Dutch shipbuilding company Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding. Due to the modular design, these ships are built relatively quickly and can have different sizes and types of weapons. Thus, SIGMA 10514-type corvettes built for Indonesia are 105 m long and 14 m wide, and SIGMA 9813, purchased by the Moroccan Navy, are 98 m long and 13 m wide.

It is planned to spend about € 1 billion for the purchase of ships. Their construction will be carried out in Romanian Galati at a shipyard owned by the Dutch company Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding.

According to the Ministry of Defense, the contract will be signed "in the very near future," and the first ship in the Navy will appear in 2,5 already.

According to the military, "new ships will provide security in the Black Sea, as well as be used to patrol and conduct search and rescue operations."

It is not yet known what type of SIGMA corvettes will be ordered. However, the Defense Ministry said that they will be equipped with various classes of missiles, artillery and torpedo weapons. If we talk about the ship SIGMA 10514, then it is armed with “MBDA MICA anti-aircraft missiles, MBDA Exocet MM40 SSM anti-ship missiles, XtoNMX 76 XMNUMX Super Rapid anti-ship missiles, two 62-mm MG automatic weapons, and one of them; reports the resource.

Comments

[Joker787]

A very serious device, and we have 11356 stalled 2 with an unclear fate, one broke once *** bai.
Romania, w0pa of the world! Will be able to compete with our Black Sea Fleet, I am not one of the "all-out", but 4 such ships are a real force.

[cniza]

Serious intentions, but it will take a long time before implementation.

[Joker787]

The article says about 2,5 years for the first, suppose for negotiations and other red tape another 0,5 years, we have 2020, and now the question is: will our fleet manage to realize everything that is planned in the program until 2020?
I really want to believe that, yes ... But for now, only with the construction of the RTOs there are no problems, something more serious, there is already a big problem (one, Karl, only one frigate from the new ones, able to join the battle)

[alexmach]

2.5 years before delivery of the first? not so much time. There was somewhere an article that for the Black Sea Fleet they would finish / modernize 2 Lightnings at the Vietnam plant at the Vietnam project.

[Wiruz]

There was somewhere an article that for the Black Sea Fleet they would finish / modernize 2 Lightnings at the Vietnam plant at the Vietnam project.

Yes, there was such information. Only one seems to be for the Black Sea Fleet, the second for CFL, it seems.
Of course, they are a little old on the project, but toothy. Sixteen X-35 after all

[alexmach]

Well, against all the little things in inland seas, in my opinion is not a bad option. Air defense would have him at least the most minimal (not flexible!).

[210ox]

Well, why? If they finance, they will build it quickly enough. The problem as with our engines, the shipyard’s workload and equipment will not be there.

Quote: cniza

Serious intentions, but it will take a long time before implementation.

[Cat]

This is not Romania’s first attempt to enter the world leaders in the navy. Their destroyer alone is worth something.

[Cat]

Destroyer - kontainerovtz "Marasesti".

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Kotischa

This is not Romania’s first attempt to enter the world leaders in the navy.

So let them bother if there is money. It would be foolish to have access to the sea and not use it. Moreover, in recent years, there has always been something for the Romanians in those parts of the country trickling about the little things. And this project, in any case, is not being realized today, and not tomorrow. Moreover, they do not claim much - they will collect for themselves, loved ones, at home, loved ones, according to the Dutch project, at the Dutch shipyard. Such is gypsy happiness ...

[Su24]

Right now, they will tell you that you are probably an agent of the State Department, and these ships are just targets for our "Bastions" and so on)

[Joker787]

eburg1234
"Secondly, even if we discard our warships and aircraft, the Bastion in Crimea will cover these ships right from the Romanian coast."
Su24, you looked into the water
I love VO for stability)

[lis-ik]

And for example, I just read the headline and already represent 70% of the comments.

[APASUS]

Quote: Joker787

Romania, w0pa of the world! Will be able to compete with our Black Sea Fleet, I am not one of the "all-out", but 4 such ships are a real force.

I wonder where the extra billion was organized in Romania? Something is not heard about Romania's new economic market

[Joker787]

Something tells me that the State Department will pay for them, it’s too painful for them to look at the mazolit spreading the shoulders of the Black Sea Fleet.

[novobranets]

Trump? Gypsies? Billion? Choi, I’m delaying.

[Svoy_tovarish]

Dug up somewhere to see). They want to be the first to respond to the US proposal to NATO members that it is time for everyone to exert themselves and allocate more funds to the Armed Forces.
But the news is really negative, the NATO states and ships are already enough in the Black Sea. Adding to them 4 new, excellent corvettes, from the masters of shipbuilding - the Dutch, will add a headache to our Black Sea Fleet.

[venik]

Quote: Svoy_tovarish

Adding to them 4 new, excellent corvettes, from the masters of shipbuilding - the Dutch, will add a headache to our Black Sea Fleet.

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Golovnyak, of course, will increase ... Not without that. But the problem is not only who designed the ship, but also who will not SERVE him !!! And it will definitely not be the Dutch who will serve ... And the "gypsies" will also build it ... Well, what kind of Romanian sailors - and without comment is clear (even worse than the warriors ...).
Back in the days of World War I, the chief of the Russian General Staff was asked about the prospects of Romania joining the war, which hesitated for a very long time on whose side to speak. The wise general answered this question:
If Romania stands on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary, we will need 10 divisions to defeat it ... If on ours, we will need 10 divisions to save it from defeat ... Say what you like, but if they come out, we will have to to find somewhere 10 extra divisions! It would be better if they didn’t enter the war at all!
The general looked into the water as if Romania sided with Antatna and a month later they had to send 10 Russian divisions to the Romanian front to save them from complete defeat ....

[Sterlya]

Quote: Joker787

Romania, w0pa of the world! Will be able to compete with our Black Sea Fleet, I am not one of the "all-out", but 4 such ships are a real force.

This OOP, as in the Second World War, wants to join Great Germany in a campaign against the "Wild" Russia?

[Neputin]

This concept is distinguished by the construction method. Ships are assembled from standard sections, in which almost all equipment and weapons systems are pre-installed. Thanks to this new ship, long-term adjustment of systems and weapons is not needed and, after short sea trials, it can immediately enter the combat strength of the fleet. Those. fulfillment of the order actually comes down to splicing in a boathouse a set of serial production modules defined by the technical task. This method of building a ship has long been no longer know-how, but significantly speeds up the construction of the ship. In the period from July 2007 to March 2009, four 9113 SIGMA corvettes for the Indonesian Navy KRI Diponegoro, KRI Hasanuddin, KRI Sultan Iskadar Muda, and KRI Frans Kaisiepo were assembled. At this stage, SIGMA concepts are produced Project 9113 corvettes with a displacement of 1200 to 2000 tons and Project 10513 light frigates with a displacement of 1200 to 2300 tons. To build one ship, 7 to 14 modules with six types of sizes are required.
Technical characteristics of the KRI Diponegoro class corvette:
Displacement - 1692 tons;
Length - 90,7 m;
Width - 13,02 m;
Draught - 3,6 m;
Power plant - two SEMT Pielstick 20PA6B STC diesel engines with a power of 17820 kW;
Power plant - Caterpillar diesel generators four of 320 kW each;
Speed ​​- 28 knots;
Autonomy - 20 days;
Crew - 80 man;
Armament:
Launchers with anti-ship missiles Exoset Block II 40 mm - 2;
Anti-aircraft missile system MBDA Mistral TETRAL - 2;
Artillery mounts 76 mm Oto Melara - 1;
Machine gun 20 mm Denel Vektor G12 - 2;
Torpedo tubes - 2 (three-pipe);
Sigma frigates are slightly larger, which allowed designers to significantly strengthen the air defense and anti-submarine defense of the ship. As an anti-aircraft missile weapon, a twelve-container vertical launch launcher “VL MICA” with a radius of destruction of an air target at an altitude of up to 9 km and a distance of 20 km is used.
Conclusion: of course this is not 20385, but about 20380, I'm not talking about our so-called patrol ships with a displacement of 2000 tons and with machine gun weapons. And the production speed? That's where the toad smothers!

[drunkram]

So the couple did not understand, all the same, it’s a corvette or a frigate, decide? 20380, seriously? well, if these corvettes will be at the level of our Buyans, besides, it is not known what will be placed on these corvettes, in connection with their modular design. Of the armaments, only the air defense system and the anti-aircraft are of interest, they do not roll for anti-submarine warfare, only against fishing vessels and boats

displacement under 2000 tons and with machine gun weapons

And where does such a displacement come from if out of arms only machine guns? ballast in the hold?

[esaul1950]

Especially if the Romanian crew will be, a very real POWER,

[Orionvit]

The presence of ships does not mean anything yet. But the weapon and the ability to use it (crew training) is an indicator. The very phrase "Romanian Navy", as it is in itself, suggests smiling thoughts. Just like a thorn in the finger, unpleasant but not fatal.

[lis-ik]

Modern corvettes, frigates, what do they have, that we all have one face in appearance. All stealth is to blame.

[Wiruz]

Oh well, quite a pretty boat. Even poorer than our pr.20380 will be

[lis-ik]

So I'm talking about the same as with one shipyard, and all are pretty.

[eburg1234]

Quote: Joker787

A very serious device, and we have 11356 stalled 2 with an unclear fate, one broke once *** bai.
Romania, w0pa of the world! Will be able to compete with our Black Sea Fleet, I am not one of the "all-out", but 4 such ships are a real force.

What are you panicking about?
First, let them build it first: now it’s a common thing when Wishlist do not coincide with financial capabilities.
Secondly, even if we discard our warships and aircraft, the Bastion in Crimea will cover these ships right from the Romanian coast.

[ilya_oz]

4 PU is just such a force.

[alexmach]

4 ships of 8 launchers each. Plus don't forget, this is just one of NATO's countries

[Cat]

And all the "exoset"! No, this is not a strength, but a flaw in the project.

[Wiruz]

And all the "exoset"! No, this is not a strength, but a flaw in the project.

Well, why? They do not have their Onyx or Caliber, well, God be with them. This corvette does not fight with destroyers or cruisers. And to destroy missile boats, small missile ships or corvettes, Exocet is enough
If you are engaged in the search for shortcomings in this ship, then the first in the list will be the absence of PLUR. But our corvettes still have exactly the same problem

[esaul1950]

Horror! We are all afraid already.

[ilya_oz]

I'm talking about the Bastion in Crimea ... 4 corvettes are just quite a force in the conditions of the Black Sea.

[Olegovi4]

with the same success, gypsies (more precisely, their owners) will be able to strike directly from the coast both in the navy and in the Crimea. Do not relax with such an increase in the enemy fleet. mattresses still can’t get around and do not care about Montreux, decided to go on the other side, armed with modern aboriginal ships. and no need to nod at me, they say again the State Department is to blame. Well, I do not believe that dummies rummaging in holey pockets will find a lard of greenery. except amers, no one will pay for these toys.

[Manul]

Quote: eburg1234

What are you panicking about?
First, let them build it first: now it’s a common thing when Wishlist do not coincide with financial capabilities.
Secondly, even if we discard our warships and aircraft, the Bastion in Crimea will cover these ships right from the Romanian coast.

So the point is not what Romania is building. The problem is that we do not have time to build. It seems to me that we should already order from China. By the way, the Dutch do not seem to be against us either. Can we also order from them?

[Havoc]

Keyword will ORDER, i.e. I’m not even signed an agreement of intent, as if there was a plan, there is a desire, but will there be any opportunity .. Trump has already said that he will not contain NATO .. ​​One billion for such a poor country like Romania, a lot of money.

[Caretaker]

Bad, but it's their right. Compensation for the limit of non-Black Sea countries in the Black Sea.

Coastal complexes and aviation in the Crimea - our answer to the Bosphorus. Complexes are cheaper.

[esaul1950]

Well that's all. Krandets of the Russian Navy. "Great Romania has ordered as many as two corvettes, where to run, where to hide?

[Arct]

Another piece of news from the category of "intentions about intentions". But how much chewed on their "good and fast-building ships" and our brakes. The site is clearly turning into jaundice. There will be news about the bookmark, then it makes sense to discuss. And talking about the concept of a quarter-century ago (the Dutch version of MEKO), in general, there is no special point ...