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Beyond humiliation. In Kiev, installed "feeders" for immigrants from the Donbass

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Photos from Kiev appear on social networks showing “feeders” for immigrants from Donbass and Crimea. In appearance - this is really a real feeding trough, which is larger than the feeding trough for birds. And this “miracle of Ukrainian thought” is intended for products that everyone can leave to refugees.


Beyond humiliation. In Kiev, installed "feeders" for immigrants from the Donbass


One of the materials describing the situation appeared on the Facebook page of Evgeny Rudenko’s Facebook user. Eugene comes from the Donetsk region. Not so long ago, decided to move to Kiev. He's writing:

In the photo - the feeding trough "VPOMiich", intended for internal migrants from Donbass and Crimea. You heard right: it was the feeder. They are installed on the tram stops in Kiev by creative and socially responsible citizens. In the trough, you can leave food for those who did not work out with genetics. The capital press writes about the creative work of local artists: "Together with the guests and participants of the action, the organizers argued: can everyone accept and understand this call to draw people's attention to each other not through pathos slogans and statements, but through the most natural and strong human need? They said that “VPOmich” is not so much an exchange of food as an exchange of positive emotions (energy), and the tree from which the “houses” are made is more suitable for the realization of this idea, since this is the very first, and a close man stuff. "


The Ukrainian edition Inpress writes that the organizers of this action staged a different performance. “Creative” activists rented a Kiev tram following the route No. XXUMX and discussed with passengers the questions “the place of immigrants in the life of Kiev”.

From the material:
In the tram there were performances and discussions. The tram moved to Obolon, symbolizing the movement of people. The spectators of performances and participants in the discussion were both ordinary tram passengers and invited guests. On the way, the place that the settlers occupy in the life of Kiev, the influence on the people of Kiev and the attitude of the residents of the capital to internally displaced persons was discussed. They also discussed the impact of such a new concept for Ukraine, like resettlement, on art.




In the comments, one of the residents of Donbass (the city of Makeyevka) wrote that they who organized the rally once again showed that they did not consider people from Donetsk and Luhansk to be their feeders. From the comment:

They would give you some of the garbage cans ...


Another Facebook user (migrant from Gorlovka to Chernigov) writes:
Why be offended, then? The real attitude of the state is. To complete the installation under the tree you need a couple of traps and stretching to put.
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  1. OLD FART
    OLD FART 28 November 2016 17: 05
    +28
    From impotent malice all this ... Donbass you never take! All interesting is yet to come Svidomo ..
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 28 November 2016 17: 14
      +21
      Yeah, soon the compasses for measuring skulls will take what to say if their minister considers the south-east of Ukraine inferior.
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 28 November 2016 17: 20
        +9
        - Shame on wounds that are going to the EU. Who needs them there.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 28 November 2016 18: 25
          +14

          But
          In Poroshenko's personal church in Koncha-Zaspa, the walls were painted with frescoes depicting the Poroshenko family. In Ukraine, understandable hysteria reigns, because it turns out that for such excesses, Yanukovych and Pshonka were “kicked out” with their “golden loaves”, and the new “democratic” leader, again for the old.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 28 November 2016 19: 03
            +17
            And, actually, what else can Ziono-Nazi authorities in Ukraine offer for Russian immigrants from the Donbass and the Southeast of the country? Free dining for starving? So after all, free Ziono-Nazi canteens exist only for Jews !!!
            Feeders for the "goyim" under the Zion-Nazi government in Ukraine - this is even more than "democratic" for the rulers in Ukraine!
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 28 November 2016 19: 50
              +4
              Quote: Tatiana
              And, in fact, what else can Ziono-Nazi authorities in Ukraine offer for Russian immigrants from the Donbass

              Since that time, her ranks have thinned greatly, the guys are already partially living in Europe. New ones have already come in their place, hungry wolf cubs ...............
          2. Krasniy_lis
            Krasniy_lis 29 November 2016 12: 25
            +1
            THE MOST "RIGHT" ICON IN UKRAINE

            O Peter the Almighty, who exists in abundance and abundance!
            May your name shine in Forbes, may Your Presidency come in heaven forever!
            Give us a little bit of bread and warmth for every day from your luxury and exorbitant greed! Forgive everyone the debts of the IMF and banks, as we forgive you for now!
            Remember your long-suffering people, longing for peace and future for the sake of their children!
            Do not lead your people into the temptation to demolish Thee, but deliver us from the Evil One!
            And in this, so that you hear us like thunder, may there be strength and glory of the Ukrainian people!
        2. Sheikh
          Sheikh 28 November 2016 20: 34
          +3
          helping people is a good message, but how it is being implemented and what is behind it is another question.
          I’ll start talking about shame when I stop seeing almost every day in our sleeping area of ​​Moscow people are examining the contents of garbage cans, and there will be no people eating waste in the garbage dumps.
          with respect.
          1. alex86
            alex86 28 November 2016 20: 59
            +5
            I don’t understand what kind of tantrum? To collect money - so they will be stolen with a greater probability. I don’t give alms, but if a grandmother sits with an outstretched hand in a store, I pick up a bag - butter / vegetable, cheese, sausage softer, buckwheat, pasta, cottage cheese, sour cream - is that I mocking her, or what? Our refugees from Ukraine lived in the suburbs - so they had a hard time, I think, would not have refused anything. Now I don’t know, they were evicted, somewhere they resolved (or I just don’t know).
            1. Krasniy_lis
              Krasniy_lis 29 November 2016 12: 29
              +2
              Quote: alex86
              I don’t understand what kind of tantrum?

              Carl feeder! Who are they for? This is not help there or the dining room. This is a feeding trough. Like a balcony for birds or squirrels. For the beasts Karl!
              It’s still not clear what outrages?
              1. alex86
                alex86 29 November 2016 14: 11
                +1
                No, not clear. Some containers were installed (feeders, in the local terminology) in which people put food for refugees. What outrages something? They didn’t put soup plates there, so that people would slurp a yushka in the cold. The mechanism of subsequent distribution of products is not clear to me, it is not indicated in the article. The containers (feeders, in the local terminology) are small in appearance, but they either did it, realizing that they wouldn’t put a lot of shame and did not disgrace the big and empty ones, or they didn’t calculate - the occupancy was not clear, I couldn’t say anything. It’s still not clear to me what outrages. We don’t have that either. How to help the poor - it is not clear, only if by external signs, but they may be offended. And here, if they gathered it and then handed it over to those in need - they put the not-bitten sausage - what's the deal? Just what is happening in Ukraine?
                1. Krasniy_lis
                  Krasniy_lis 29 November 2016 14: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: alex86
                  (feeders, in local terminology)

                  no, not "in the local terminology." Re-read the article.
                  Quote: alex86
                  We don’t have that either. How to help the poor - it is not clear

                  I don’t know how you are there, or not, and how to help. I know how it is in Donetsk. And how about you, I do not care, in general. Personally, I know how to help and to whom. There is no need for feeders for me
                  1. alex86
                    alex86 29 November 2016 18: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Krasniy_lis
                    I don't need "feeders"
                    - and calm down on this. These containers (feeders, in the local terminology; I read the article, therefore I write this way) were not installed in Donetsk; and the collected products are clearly not going to Donetsk; perhaps, all the same, those refugees from Donetsk who have left for Ukraine will fall - are they not people? they do not need to eat? they are fine? Or do you not want them to get products?
                    Well, they collect it - and okay, they will help at least someone - and it's good. What a wave they raised from scratch - just to find an excuse to find yourself ...
          2. yawa63
            yawa63 29 November 2016 04: 17
            +7
            You can minus - with those who examine the contents of garbage cans in Moscow, it was necessary to support the drunkard Boria even more strongly in 1991 and 1993, then all of Moscow went crazy (especially in 1991). Nothing personal.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 29 November 2016 09: 48
              0
              If he had been investigated only in one Mosca ...
    2. Zibelew
      Zibelew 28 November 2016 17: 14
      +14
      These are the great achievements of the Maidan! By the way, soon, very soon - according to some Ukrainian pepper - we will stand in line to get the right to work in Ukraine and receive a European salary there! Here some Ukropatriots write: "Stop worrying about Ukraine for Russians! Well, in general, do your own business ..." However, while Ukraine is not dead, it causes concern. We are also interested in how others are arranged ...
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 28 November 2016 17: 46
        +43
        Quote: Zibelew
        By the way, soon, very soon - according to some Ukrainian pepper - we will line up in order to get the right to work in Ukraine and get a European salary there!

        A long neighing colleague. fellow The question is, who else will stand
    3. 210ox
      210ox 28 November 2016 17: 15
      +10
      Vitaly, the most lousy thing is to wait for the end of all this. In general, this canoe will be unfortunately for a long time .. There will simply be a smoldering conflict, like in Karabakh. LDNR will not have a command to liberate its land, and svidomye by all means will be dirty, from there they just don’t will leave ..
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 28 November 2016 17: 22
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        Vitaly, the most lousy thing is to wait for the end of all this. In general, this canoe is for a long time unfortunately .. There will simply be a smoldering conflict, as in Karabakh.

        Alas, you are right, the west of this also sought to pit the Slavs ... Alas, not one generation will remember this, even if Kiev is ours ..
      2. Krasniy_lis
        Krasniy_lis 29 November 2016 12: 31
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        In general, this canoe is for a long time unfortunately .. There will simply be a smoldering conflict, as in Karabakh

        This is only with one "but". Ukraine must live somehow. On credit? How long will they give?
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 28 November 2016 17: 17
      +18
      Those who do not accept these republics, i.e. those who have adopted the new Bandera power, so let them not be offended now, the authorities appreciated their decision.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 28 November 2016 17: 21
        +12
        Peter, this is not so. They left not just because they didn’t accept, but where they could live and have the opportunity to settle down. Mostly to relatives .. Although there were ideological ones. I talked with these people.
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 28 November 2016 17: 52
          +10
          Quote: 210ox
          They left not just because they do not accept, but to where they can live and have the opportunity to settle down. Mostly to relatives.


          I support your opinion. Not everyone had the opportunity to choose the place where they could go, fleeing shelling. Those who are more decisive dropped everything and rushed to Russia, but for many the option "to visit relatives" was preferable. The only pity is that they are now making the 2nd grade. I would not be surprised if, in addition to the "feeders" for them, Svidomye will soon put doghouses.
          1. Krasniy_lis
            Krasniy_lis 29 November 2016 12: 35
            +1
            Quote: Polite Elk
            Not everyone had the opportunity to choose a place where they could go, escaping from shelling.

            I’ll say as a Donetsk citizen. Those who wanted to return came back. Those who foolishly or relatives left for dill and were disappointed, either they moved to the Russian Federation already, or returned back to the DPR. Those who remain there do not see our future, their problems.
            This is on the one hand.
            On the other hand, this is still a mockery. But the one who laughs last laughs well. And we still laugh. Trends are visible even now who has a future and who have only one debt.
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 29 November 2016 14: 37
              0
              Quote: Krasniy_lis
              On the other hand, this is still a mockery. But the one who laughs last laughs well. And we still laugh.


              Igor! I welcome you and express confidence that in the near future we will definitely laugh together.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 28 November 2016 18: 30
        +7
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Giant thought


        Hey.
        Yes, this is "minuscule", not even flowers. Either the unfortunate "nenka" is still waiting. Already from the coveted America "passengers are outlined:

        And the so coveted Europe with its "visa-free" (which, by the way, PROMISE ??? not earlier than May 2017) sets conditions for the replenishment of the h.h.h.y.ts.k.o.g. about the society with bearded barmaley:

        In general, either "glory" to Ukraine, or tryndets. what
        1. svp67
          svp67 28 November 2016 18: 43
          +6
          Quote: Lelek
          Already from the coveted America "passengers are outlined:
          In the flint valley, a lot of people flinched at the victory of Trump and are still trembling ... There are many emigrants. By the way, we have a chance to return someone to ourselves. The main thing is that Russia would be ready for this. Indeed, for these people not words are needed, but the possibilities of realization. And I would very much like that the current leadership of Skolkovo would be removed from this process.
        2. In100gram
          In100gram 28 November 2016 19: 17
          +1
          Quote: Lelek
          Either the unfortunate "nenka" is still waiting. Already from the coveted America "passengers are outlined:

          And the so coveted Europe with its "visa-free" (which, by the way, PROMISE ??? not earlier than May 2017) sets conditions for the replenishment of the h.h.h.y.ts.k.o.g. about the society with bearded barmaley:


          I can say reasonably: Programmers' place of work and office are deeply purple. End of the phrase. They need "iron" and a head with a brain. And the internet. And where and in what part of the world to work is all the same. This is about 120 thousand working programmers in the United States. These guys, of course, are "autistic" (not very sociable, not a disease, their thoughts are about something else, or the thought is not thinking about that) in the main. Somehow it smells like throwing something that doesn't smell very well on the fan from your side
          1. bk316
            bk316 28 November 2016 20: 01
            +4
            120 thousand working programmers in the usa.

            Turn on the brain a little special for programmers. The ruin is still not China. 120 thousand is approximately every 300 so many programmers are in ruin and never have been, and those who were traveling to Europe mostly.
            1. In100gram
              In100gram 28 November 2016 21: 42
              0
              Quote: bk316
              Turn on the brain a little special for programmers. The ruin is still not China. 120 thousand is approximately every 300 so many programmers are in ruin and never have been, and those who were traveling to Europe mostly.

              I wrote about this. Throwing on the fan from any position hi This hooked
        3. 210ox
          210ox 28 November 2016 19: 18
          +3
          Europe needs Ukraine only in a brothel.
        4. Operator
          Operator 28 November 2016 20: 16
          +1
          The surname of the Deputy Minister of Justice is Petukhov, which is why he so ardently invites the Arabs to populate the outskirts.
      3. captain
        captain 28 November 2016 18: 57
        +6
        Quote: Giant thought
        Those who do not accept these republics, i.e. those who have adopted the new Bandera power, so let them not be offended now, the authorities appreciated their decision.

        I agree with you mainly, but part of them left because of disbelief in the victory of the militias. Then they did not want to stay on the bottom step of the social ladder. I served in Voroshilovgrad (Lugnsk), there are specific people. Part of the descendants of the Don Cossacks, part Russian, part migrants from Western Ukraine in 1939-40gg (forcibly deported socially unreliable elements, they wrote so then), part deported Ukrainians from Poland (under a population exchange agreement between the Ukrainian SSR and Poland) and others. Donbass then It was badly destroyed and for its restoration people were brought different and from everywhere. Therefore, there is no single mentally identical population there. And to be surprised that many people from Donbass in the Nazi battalions are not worth it. Therefore, the people fled in different directions, mainly according to their interests, religion, nationality and attitude to Soviet power.
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 28 November 2016 23: 03
      0
      Beyond humiliation. In Kiev, installed "feeders" for immigrants from the Donbass

      Obviously out of order fool
    6. gladcu2
      gladcu2 29 November 2016 03: 17
      0
      OLD FART

      It is difficult to judge from the article what role these "feeders" should fulfill. The role of humiliation or the role of helping.

      In North America, there is practice - any large grocery store at the outlet has a volume of one and a half to one and a half boxes. Buyers throw canned goods, cereals, pasta there. Well, it’s accepted. Then the workers pack them up and absolutely everyone who needs it can take food packages. Moreover, if necessary, you can take something out of the box when leaving the checkout. Those in need do it and it’s normal. No one will blame.

      So maybe these feeders have something similar.
    7. edison
      edison 29 November 2016 14: 32
      0
      I, of course, gently, say, dislike the current Kiev regime, but the "trough" does not say that this is for Donbass residents. Someone pedals, just like vitalik. And just homeless people can eat from there
  2. potroshenko
    potroshenko 28 November 2016 17: 05
    +2
    And what should immigrants do? They chose the side of Ukraine. 1,7 million people. To register in the Armed Forces and go to free their homes? Theoretically, they have the right, but will they want to risk their lives? So they begin a new life as they can, state benefits are provided.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 November 2016 17: 11
      +15
      Actually, we are not particularly happy with them in Russia .. Of course, there are high-class specialists, but the bulk that I looked at in the Krasnodar Territory the year before last were just freeloaders. It’s clear that there’s a war in your house, you decided to save your lives, so take shape, work, but don’t wait until they are served. In many villages, the Cossacks expelled them.
  3. flSergius
    flSergius 28 November 2016 17: 08
    +4
    Ukraine is really Europe - strikes with performances and "creative" actions on real problems laughing
  4. Pasha
    Pasha 28 November 2016 17: 15
    +7
    feeding troughs for refugees?
    kennel - for the Junta !!!
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 28 November 2016 17: 19
      +2
      the cage, Pasha, the cage.
  5. VVM
    VVM 28 November 2016 17: 25
    +1
    Do they even have a bottom?
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 28 November 2016 17: 33
      +6
      what Apparently there is, but it is liquid and it’s not worth laboring further there request
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 28 November 2016 18: 35
        +4
        Well, then, this is not the bottom, this is a point, deprived of the attention of the scavenger. Theoretically, there is also a bottom somewhere.
        As T. wrote (O0Koloradsky: it’s not bad that we were in opera, but that we are starting to settle there.
    2. flSergius
      flSergius 28 November 2016 17: 37
      +6
      Every time you think that you have reached the bottom, from under the floor someone starts pounding and howling "Shchanyo vmeeeeeerlaaaa ...."
  6. Editor
    Editor 28 November 2016 17: 34
    +1
    so the joke is that they are collecting for refugees, and the turn is from the local ... Kiev ...
    1. Sagittarius
      Sagittarius 28 November 2016 18: 01
      +1
      It is always and everywhere that someone is trying to cling to what is not for him.
  7. BOB044
    BOB044 28 November 2016 17: 42
    +9
    And this is 25 years ago the richest republic of the USSR in all respects.
    1. Kondratko
      Kondratko 28 November 2016 18: 00
      +4
      Yeah, "Breadbasket of Russia" damn ...
      They became self-reliant and immediately it became clear who and what was worth (silt).
      1. Retvizan
        Retvizan 28 November 2016 19: 35
        +2
        Quote: KondratKo
        Yeah, "Breadbasket of Russia" damn ...

        she remained the breadbasket (one grain export is equal to the entire export of grain of the Russian Federation), but this is not oil ...
        the trouble is that industry is more important than granaries ..
        1. bk316
          bk316 28 November 2016 20: 09
          +4
          one grain export is equal to the entire grain export of the Russian Federation

          I don’t understand, do you have one export there and another export there?
      2. 1rl141
        1rl141 29 November 2016 00: 55
        +1
        Quote: KondratKo
        Yeah, "Breadbasket of Russia" damn ...

        Was a breadbasket, became a breadbasket.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 28 November 2016 18: 09
      +8
      In general, this applies to all the former Soviet republics in one way or another .. I traveled a lot on business trips to Uzbekistan, to relatives in Kyrgyzstan. There is now complete opa.
  8. Normal ok
    Normal ok 28 November 2016 17: 53
    0
    That is, if help were collected, say in baskets, was everything okay? Or is it better not to collect at all?
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 28 November 2016 18: 01
      +9
      Quote: Normal ok
      That is, if help were collected, say in baskets, was everything okay? Or is it better not to collect at all?

      A colleague, and if you would have put instead a plate of rich soup, a bird feeder, what would you feel.
    2. Siberian
      Siberian 28 November 2016 18: 36
      +3
      It’s best to help without humiliating. And there’s plenty of ways.
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 28 November 2016 19: 28
        0
        It is possible to trade organs not expensively in the EU or to make a stew for military anti-terrorist operation.

        A lot of ways;)
    3. Mwg
      Mwg 28 November 2016 19: 32
      +3
      For normal approx. And if you had asked, and thrown to the floor, would you eat?
  9. SlavaS
    SlavaS 28 November 2016 17: 55
    +5
    Tell me guys, can you eat local bums from them?
  10. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 28 November 2016 18: 06
    +4
    Degenerates dancing on the bones of their fellow citizens ... This country should disappear.
  11. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 28 November 2016 18: 55
    0
    There will still be roofing felts, oh, oh oh!
  12. OlegYOla
    OlegYOla 28 November 2016 18: 59
    0
    Photo trap there- for freeloaders from the Verkhovna Rada on expensive cars am
  13. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 28 November 2016 19: 25
    0
    Beyond humiliation. "Feeders" for migrants from Donbass have been installed in Kiev.
    So far, Ukraine itself eats from such feeders from Euro-Union handouts, and Donbass residents do not need anything from scum from Ukraine, soon Ukrainians themselves will eat from the DNR feeders, if not already ...
  14. a housewife
    a housewife 28 November 2016 19: 28
    +2
    And this country stated that its migratory birds from Russia are eating around because hunger in Russia. That is, it is for migratory birds? Or do they call their immigrants so? Will they ring? And how do they know - who took the products, suddenly the one who is not supposed to? Everything, the words are over. fool
  15. Mwg
    Mwg 28 November 2016 19: 31
    +3
    One feels a well-thought-out sophisticated mockery in such feeders, and a hint of attitude towards animals as well - birds.
    The Jewish ghetto prevailed. Very similar in approach and manifestation.
    Really, scum. And those creative ones are geeks, and those geeks who pay for both feeders and the work of creakels.
  16. Retvizan
    Retvizan 28 November 2016 19: 48
    +1
    hmm ... in all this tragedy we find 1 detail that looks like a feeding trough and inflate the fire of an information attack - they say they feed a feeding trough! Poor immigrants! They don’t think at all for people ....
    An excellent move by the way, such is the answer to the sale of humanitarian aid in the Regions and other troubles ..
    In general, there are help points — we, for example, carried things for children and adults, there are funds for food.
    In Kiev, even more than in Odessa
    For two years, $ 280 million was spent on immigrants, according to the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    23 August 2016, 20: 11

    For two years, the Russian Federation spent more than 18 billion rubles ($ 279,2 million) on the resettlement of refugees from Ukraine. According to TASS, this was stated by First Deputy Interior Minister of Russia Alexander Gorovoy.

    According to Gorovoy, 521 citizens of Ukraine, including almost 200 children, are currently in temporary holding facilities in Russia.
    As Korrespondent.net reported, about two thousand Ukrainians sought asylum in Belarus.

    total in Belarus about 60 thousand
    but most of all moved to other regions of Ukraine. The State Emergency Management Service registered 1 internally displaced persons from the zone of the anti-terrorist operation and Crimea annexed by Russia as of February 021, 490. This was reported by the press service of the State Emergencies Ministry.
    This number includes migrants within the Lugansk (250 481 people) and Donetsk (118 101 people) regions.
    21 people left Crimea.
    999 720 people left the anti-terrorist operation zone.
    They have subsidies and benefits. There are a lot of them in Sobesov and they have separate consultants. Everything is hard for them .. they left everything there ..
    In Odessa, it’s a little easier for them (there is work, the environment is almost similar), they are striving for Kiev because the level of salaries is even higher there.
    Saw-get a great job, only poor knowledge of the city interferes, but this can quickly be fixed.
    In the country, they are treated with great understanding. There are excesses, where without them. I am sure that in the Russian Federation too there are excesses with them.
    Of course, creative people with boxes have bent, but this is an isolated case.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 28 November 2016 20: 23
      +3
      Quote: Retvizan
      1
      Retvisan New    
      Today, 19: 48
      hmm ... in all this tragedy we find 1 detail that looks like a feeding trough and inflate the fire of an information attack - they say they feed a feeding trough!

      I thought the same thing! And I read the comments, so who has a lot of thoughts to fly at! Comparisons! Like how to throw it under your feet! Ratings! Definitely humiliating! Yes, what is the humiliation if people collect help? How to assemble the details. How convenient for them! I’d like to ask these Urikals, but did they collect anything for the Donbass? And this hour, at least someone collects? In my opinion, no! Previously, something else was collected, but this hour is silence.
      1. Retvizan
        Retvizan 29 November 2016 10: 45
        0
        Quote: Stas157
        ! I’d like to ask these Urikals, but did they collect anything for the Donbass? And this hour, at least someone collects? In my opinion, no! Previously, something else was collected, but this hour is silence.

        Everyone is no longer up to fat ... Russia already needs to be saved ... the one that will not be shown on TV. Ukraine is understandable - it will not be missed on TV.
        Many in the Russian Federation also help, but not as much as before (mat. Condition worsened).
    2. Erg
      Erg 28 November 2016 23: 31
      0
      Quote: Retvizan
      For two years, $ 280 million was spent on immigrants, according to the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs. 23 August 2016, 20:11

      Who is spent on? On horses? Why are you not ashamed to draw parallels
      1. Retvizan
        Retvizan 29 November 2016 10: 48
        +1
        Quote: Erg
        Quote: Retvizan
        For two years, $ 280 million was spent on immigrants, according to the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs. 23 August 2016, 20:11

        Who is spent on? On horses? Why are you not ashamed to draw parallels

        it’s like it’s written in Russian .. all the more completely from a link I gave.
        280 million units of the US state currency (concurrently) spent by the Russian Federation on Ukrainian immigrants! According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs for 2 years.
        For those who went to Russia!
    3. a housewife
      a housewife 29 November 2016 03: 43
      +1
      If these gentlemen treated people with understanding, they would not have created circumstances when people who had their own housing, salary, and peaceful life were forced to give up everything, come to a place where no one was waiting for them, and even thank them for giving them clothes and free dinners! Though how to draw up this help, but still mockery.
      1. Retvizan
        Retvizan 29 November 2016 10: 49
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        Quote: housewife
        Though how to draw up this help, but still mockery.

        help is framed in the form of state aid and in private and public.
        But in any case, we observe an excess of creatives and the fact that any help is still not a substitute for what it was (with rare exceptions)
        but scribbled notably ...
  17. 1536
    1536 28 November 2016 19: 51
    +2
    This is in the spirit of the European Union. Hitler, however, did not think of this. Immediately sent to the oven. And these "humanists" first feed.
    1. Retvizan
      Retvizan 29 November 2016 10: 50
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      Quote: 1536
      I sent it straight to the oven. And these "humanists" first feed.

      and then ... eat ... smile
  18. kind
    kind 28 November 2016 20: 52
    +2
    Any revolution, inevitably follows the Holocaust, and then the condemnation of the Holocaust, but not revolution.
  19. 933454818
    933454818 28 November 2016 21: 09
    +2
    Well, you do not accelerate too much. Here in Europe, a long time ago, such actions take place - the collection of food and clothing for the poor. And we do not mean newcomers, but our own, in this case, the Portuguese. Through the church they collect and distribute, and the former " our "-Ukrainians, Georgians always know what and where and when they will distribute. Here" ours "are not ashamed of this, a freebie ...
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 29 November 2016 09: 57
      +1
      933454818
      Here in Europe, a long time ago, such actions have taken place - the collection of food and clothing for the poor. Moreover, they do not mean visitors, but their own - in this case - the Portuguese. They collect and distribute through the church, and the former "our" Ukrainians, Georgians always know what and where and when they will distribute. Here, "ours" are not ashamed of this, because it's a freebie ...

      Here in Europe these "ours" of yours came here for SAUSAGE and FREEZE from their homeland. They are ECONOMIC foreign "refugees", i.e. economic foreign immigrants-CONSUMERS. Why should they be ashamed of something? That's why we came!
      And in Ukraine there is a civil war against the Russians - against the Russian population in general, and in the Donbass, Southeast of Ukraine in particular, which was unleashed by the Kiev Ziono-Nazi junta. These citizens in Kiev in Ukraine are internal MILITARY refugees of Ukraine itself. Among them there are few so-called. "economic" refugee consumers. These are people who, thanks to the occupation policy of the authorities in the South-East of Ukraine in favor of foreign corporations for the production of gas in the Yuzovskoye field, sold for 50-55 years to Shell and Chevron, lost ALL of their property, as well as relatives and friends. And these stupid "birdhouses" of yours cannot return to them the derogatory forcibly lost.
      1. Retvizan
        Retvizan 29 November 2016 11: 02
        +1
        Quote: Tatiana
        against the Russians - against the Russian population in general, and in the Donbass, Southeast of Ukraine in particular, which was unleashed by the Kiev Ziono-Nazi junta.

        Yeah ... that is strange almost the entire Army speaks Russian.
        They are fighting, where they have a passport of Ukraine. Russians even make up part of the population in Kiev.
        If you clarify, then the Russians are against the Russians. But Ukrainian citizens are dying from two sides.
        Which junta? I ask you - what’s against the interests of the Russian Federation? The legally recognized government of dear partners, the best choice of the Ukrainian people, an investor in the Russian Federation and in general ..
        "Junta" is already a meme. 2 years have been partnering and writing on the Internet = -hunta ... uh-huh .. some kind of split or something.
        Quote: Tatiana
        These citizens in Kiev in Ukraine are internal MILITARY refugees of Ukraine itself. Among them there are few so-called. "economic" refugee consumers.

        almost agree here
        Quote: Tatiana
        These are people who, thanks to the occupation policy of the authorities in the south-east of Ukraine in favor of foreign corporations for the extraction of gas in the Yuzovsky field, sold for 50-55 years, Shell and Chevron, have lost ALL property, as well as relatives and friends.

        everything is so simple .. gas on Yuzovsky and the whole war .. The contract was signed in 2013 (just the Donetsk clan taxied)
        One of the largest oil and gas companies in the world, Royal Dutch Shell, has terminated previously signed shale gas production agreements in Ukraine and does not plan to re-sign them in the near future.
        This was in an interview with the Kiev magazine "New Time" said Shell Retail Ucraine CEO Peter Kerekdyarto, answering a question about the company's withdrawal from the contract for shale gas production at the Yuzovsky field in the Donetsk region.
        “To date, we have no plans for gas production in Ukraine in the short term,” Kerekdyarto emphasized. - This is due to global oil prices, which do not contribute to the exploration and production of unconventional gas. And gas exploration and production require large investments. And now we are very carefully choosing which projects to invest in, which ones not. ”
        He also said that the contract for the production of shale gas in the Kharkiv region was terminated, since exploration showed that “there are no commercial gas reserves there.” (2016)
        All? The war is over? Time Already failed?
        Quote: Tatiana
        And these stupid "birdhouses" of yours cannot return to them the derogatory forcibly lost.

        here I agree, they went too far, copying Europe too much.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 29 November 2016 13: 02
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          Retvizan
          Quote: Tatiana
          against the Russians - against the Russian population in general, and in the Donbass, Southeast of Ukraine in particular, which was unleashed by the Kiev Ziono-Nazi junta.

          Yeah ... that is strange almost the entire Army speaks Russian.
          They are fighting, where they have a passport of Ukraine. Russians even make up part of the population in Kiev.
          If you clarify, then the Russians are against the Russians. But Ukrainian citizens are dying from two sides.
          And you, Retvizan, divide all the citizens of Ukraine (the local name of the country) by nationality - to analyze what nationality is GRINDED in Ukraine and for what, and WHICH DOES! And guess why!
          And I will tell you videos with speeches of famous politicians for answers.

          Igor Berkut. Jews or Galicians? 28.04.2016 [Dawn. TV] Published: 28 Apr. 2016


          In Ukraine, 4-5 million people should remain. Published: October 6 2014 year
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          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 29 November 2016 13: 28
            +1
            Retvizan
            Which junta? I ask you -you are against the interests of the Russian Federation -Legally recognized government of dear partners, the best choice of the Ukrainian people, investor in the Russian Federation and in general ..

            May you retreat, Retwisan, in your delusions! All ties with Biden Ukraine in Russia are moving towards ZERO.
            What investment are you talking about in Ukraine? The fact that Poroshenko has candy production in the Russian Federation, i.e. bought for a penny candy company them. Krupskaya in the 90s? Did he build it? And the rest of the industrial production in Ukraine is reduced to zero.
            Wake up, you finally! That's how it was in the 1990s!

            See “Chubais and Gorbachev-agents of British intelligence MI-6”

            And the last - on the Yuzovsky gas field.
            Shell terminated previously signed agreements on the production of shale gas in Ukraine and does not plan to re-sign them in the near future.
            ... Shell Retail Ucraine CEO Petr Kerekdyarto, answering a question about the company withdrawing from the shale gas production agreement at the Yuzovskoye field in the Donetsk region.
            All? Is the war over?
            Are you naive, Retvisan? When did the Americans voluntarily leave somewhere ?! Waited by cunning - yes! To achieve your previous goals. Said the same
            To date, we have no plans for gas production in Ukraine in the SHORT-TERM perspective, ”Kerekdyarto emphasized.

            Do you think you beat Satan?
            Russia also leased Alaska to the USA for 50 years! And who has Alaska now? And where is the US money not paid to Russia for it?
            Is it possible to be so naive to be confident in the future when it comes to the USA and the Fed ?!
        2. Krasniy_lis
          Krasniy_lis 29 November 2016 14: 36
          +2
          Quote: Retvizan
          everything is so simple .. gas on Yuzovsky and the whole war .. The contract was signed in 2013 (just the Donetsk clan taxied)

          hint who was the Minister of Economic Development and Trade?
          Quote: Retvizan
          Yeah ... that is strange almost the entire Army speaks Russian.

          which does not interfere with yelling "moskalyak on gilyak"
          Quote: Retvizan
          All? The war is over? Time Already failed?

          Yeah, right now, and how then to justify the catastrophic fall and global F?
  20. 72jora72
    72jora72 28 November 2016 23: 57
    +1
    Quote: alex86
    I don’t understand what kind of tantrum? To collect money - so they will be stolen with a greater probability. I don’t give alms, but if a grandmother sits with an outstretched hand in a store, I pick up a bag - butter / vegetable, cheese, sausage softer, buckwheat, pasta, cottage cheese, sour cream - is that I mocking her, or what? Our refugees from Ukraine lived in the suburbs - so they had a hard time, I think, would not have refused anything. Now I don’t know, they were evicted, somewhere they resolved (or I just don’t know).

    Sorry, but you confuse soft with warm .......
  21. Ckyy
    Ckyy 29 November 2016 01: 03
    0
    why didn’t you try to feed us like a shovel? It’s more convenient and not offensive: 3
  22. lehalk
    lehalk 29 November 2016 05: 35
    0
    And what about the Jews? and a Jew is not a root concept. Another thing is that it happened. And yet, the concept is irrational.
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 29 November 2016 07: 33
    0
    Yes, these nerds will soon grumble themselves out of these feeders, schiz progresses fool
  24. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 29 November 2016 07: 34
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    In the feeder, you can leave food for those who do not work out with genetics.

    I agree with them. A cross between Russians and Poles is a disgusting genetic mutation that adores fat.
    1. Retvizan
      Retvizan 29 November 2016 11: 03
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      Quote: sergeyzzz
      In the feeder, you can leave food for those who do not work out with genetics.

      I agree with them. A cross between Russians and Poles is a disgusting genetic mutation that adores fat.

      Yes, yes, and we love you very much. Thought, I don’t like fat, but my relatives are native Russians, they love. Which of us is Ukrainian?
  25. azer
    azer 29 November 2016 10: 32
    0
    Horror is the 21st century.
  26. edison
    edison 29 November 2016 14: 31
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    I, of course, gently, say, dislike the current Kiev regime, but the "trough" does not say that this is for Donbass residents. Someone pedals, just like vitalik. And just homeless people can eat from there.