NI: NATO in Europe is most concerned about the Kaliningrad region

A small Russian region "in the heart" of NATO makes the alliance really fear, writes The National Interest. We are talking about the Kaliningrad region.

“When the Baltic countries joined NATO, Kaliningrad became a hostile territory right in the middle of the Western alliance. This made him particularly vulnerable, and at the same time potentially dangerous from a military point of view, ”the author quotes. RIA News.

In particular, the Iskander and C-400 complexes are afraid of everyone. “As noted in detail in numerous articles in the National Interest, C-400 is one of the deadliest air defense systems in the world,” he notes.

The author draws attention to the Russian ZPK, because of which the alliance will be “uncomfortable and difficult to provide air support in the sky next to the Baltic countries” - in particular, anti-aircraft missiles “capable of covering the distance from 40 to 400 km.”

As for the Iskander, "accurate information about what they are capable of is still difficult to find," but it is known that "they can produce conventional or nuclear warheads to a distance of 400 km."

“If Moscow wants to put pressure on the wavering NATO countries, it can organize a powerful demonstration by transferring some new and frightening weapons to the enclave,” he adds.

At the same time, the observer believes, “NATO has the opportunity to take political steps aimed at destabilizing the situation on this territory,” which, of course, does not suit Moscow.

Recently, State Department spokesman John Kirby urged Moscow not to place Iskander and C-400 near Kaliningrad, which allegedly "destabilize European security."

Comments

[Spartanez300]

That will hang over you like a sword of Damocles.

[vovanpain]

Recently, State Department spokesman John Kirby urged Moscow not to place Iskanders and S-400s near Kaliningrad, which supposedly “destabilize European security”

So there is "Bastion", so the forest, the forest are disrespectful non-partners from NATO.

[rasputin17]

So there and "Bastion" is, so forest, forest disrespectful non-partners from NATO. negative

There along the way there is a whole arsenal of gifts to make their life happy and its end is short !!!

[INVESTOR]

State Department spokesman John Kirby urged Moscow not to place Iskanders and S-400s near Kaliningrad, which supposedly “destabilize European security”

They just support her !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: vovanpain

So there is "Bastion" there, so in the forest, in the forest, disrespectful non-partners from NATO

According to some experts, Iskander-M can also hit Granat-M missiles, which fly at least 2500 km, and in a modernized version it is possible even further. At the same time, the S-400 complex is also capable of working on ground targets. It is not surprising that the Europeans are so nervous.

[Finches]

If we consider the Kaliningrad region through the prism of its geographical position, then naturally it is an excellent springboard for the deployment of strike missile units and other offensive weapons, as well as the deployment of electronic intelligence forces. In this case, a decent number of nuclear power plants, large chemical concerns, other hazardous industries and the infrastructure of the northern and central parts of the European Union fall into the zone of destruction of our troops from the territory of the Kaliningrad bridgehead. But there is also a nuance that must be taken into account - isolation from mainland Russia, which can easily drive our group into a "cauldron" in the event of a military conflict! That is why NATO is strengthening its presence in the Baltics, hinting at exactly this ...

I will add that all economic things of a strategic nature, such as electricity, gas, oil ..., also come through Lithuania - the country of the Alliance!

[Titsen]

Quote: Finches

... naturally, it is an excellent springboard for the deployment of missile strikes and other offensive weapons, as well as the deployment of electronic intelligence forces. In this case, a decent amount of nuclear power plants, large chemical concerns, other hazardous industries and the infrastructure of the northern and central parts of the European Union fall into the zone of defeat of our troops from the territory of the Kaliningrad bridgehead. But there is a nuance ...

Yes there is a nuance - ground-based Strategic Missile Forces missiles fly up to Europe!

[Finches]

We're talking about conventional weapons! But indeed, we have a "funny" missile "Rubezh" with a minimum flight range of 2000 km ... The Americans groan at it, pointing out the alleged violation of the INF Treaty!

[Alex_Tug]

"funny" rocket "Rubezh"

What is it based? To google laziness, if sea or air it’s all nishtyak.

[Finches]

This is the modernization of ICBMs of the Yars mobile ground-based missile system, which will be fully put into service next year!

[210ox]

All that was left for us was to place garden scarecrows there ... What would the NATO really feel sick of ..

[Giant thought]

It’s like in a joke: what for me? So here, NATO would not have climbed east, then there would have been no need to tremble with fear, because Russia warned, and NATO strategists thought that Russia was bluffing, but no, they got a slip.

[cniza]

They are afraid and let them be afraid, this is our territory and we do what we consider necessary, and if you can, think what you want.

[seregatara1969]

hand out slingshots to all border guards in the Kaliningrad region and let them scare the whole nature

[Alexanast]

You do not know our border guards ... The slingshot in their hands is a very scary weapon

[Alex_Tug]

A slingshot in capable hands is a formidable weapon, battered lenses of cameras and cameras.

[Demeter]

Russia needs to strengthen the Baltic and Pacific Fleet, starting from coastal systems of anti-ship missiles and air defense systems and ending with missile boats, submarines and corvettes, and to supply it is necessary to prepare ferries, tankers, dry cargo ships and transport aircraft. These may well close the transit to Kaliningrad and attack the Kuril Islands and Sukhalin. You need to keep the gunpowder dry and rockets with nuclear charges, too. X-101-102 has long been missed in Tokyo.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Demeter

attack the Kuril Islands and Cуhalin

That's just not necessary to attack the Kuril Islands Sakhalin!

[Bering Strait]

If they attack the Kuril Islands or Sakhalin to dust Japan, it’s enough to stand on ceremony with all sorts of Hitlers. Napoleons and emperors of the country with a cross-eyed sun, who are sick with all their might.

[Zoldat_A]

When the Baltic countries joined NATO, Kaliningrad became hostile territory in the very center of the western alliance. This made him particularly vulnerable, and at the same time potentially dangerous from a military point of view.

Yes, I would not relax buns in the place of NATO all over the world - a nuclear power ... And not Korea, mind you, and not India, but with good traditions in developing nuclear and non-nuclear weapons ....

[Tusv]

So ON THAT and the Kaliningrad region, so that Europe does not get much sick. This is not a placebo for you, but a potent sedative.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Tusv

So ON THAT and the Kaliningrad region, so that Europe does not get much sick. This is not a placebo for you, but a potent sedative.

In-in .. Between placebo and chlorpromazine the difference ohhh what!

[rotmistr60]

John Kirby urged Moscow not to place Iskanders and S-400s near Kaliningrad

With childlike spontaneity, "honestly" looking into the eyes, the representative of the State Department urged ... When they need the Americans can pretend to be so naive that without knowing them you will think and how did they manage to bring so much harm to the world?

[rasputin17]

Recently, State Department spokesman John Kirby urged Moscow not to place Iskander and C-400 near Kaliningrad, which allegedly "destabilize European security."

To calm him down and stabilize European security, add "Sarmat" after being put into service

[raid14]

Infromation for consideration:
And if our “Western partners” nevertheless try to rock the situation in Kaliningrad, then they will act (at least in the first stage) exclusively by the “soft power” method, trying to influence the socio-political and socio-economic situation in the region. Unfortunately, the seeds of the West’s efforts here may fall on very poorly prepared soil, the name of which is separatism, which is expressed in the increasing identification by the inhabitants of Kaliningrad of the fate of their city not with Russia, but with a territorially closer Europe.
Many Kaliningraders diligently emphasize their “European” identity, and the phrase “go to Russia” is typical for residents of the city, as if they themselves are not Russia. It is worth noting that a large part of the region’s inhabitants, especially young people, have never been to Moscow and other regions of Russia. But the majority of Kaliningraders at least once visited neighboring Poland and Lithuania, in a little farther, but also close to Germany and other European countries. And the more the youth prefers to travel precisely in Europe than to go to “distant Russia”
Unlike officials, some socio-political movements are not at all shy about openly expressing such ideas. One of these organizations is the regional movement Republic, which was at one time the Baltic Republican Party (BRP).
In 2005, the PDU lost the status of a legal entity, but only the status changed from this - the party was transformed into the Republican social movement. The main goal has remained unchanged - the achievement of autonomy within the Russian Federation, as explicitly stated in the charter of the movement. Activists also advocate a republican form of government with their own parliament, and also support the idea of ​​“desovietization,” including the return of historical names to cities in the region.
In 2010, supporters of the movement noted a series of pickets in Kaliningrad. Protesters with the slogan “Kaliningrad is a prisoner of Europe!” activists of a public organization demanded a simplification of the visa regime with the EU and advocated for a general deepening of cooperation between Kaliningrad and Brussels. It is noteworthy that the then governor of the region Nikolai Tsukanov publicly supported the pickets and the demands expressed by them.
http://kolokolrussia.ru/provinciya/kaliningradski
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And one more thing: Scientific minimum for a “fighter against separatism”
The problem of separatism in the conditions of enclave territories / ed. A.P. Klemeshev. - Kaliningrad: Publishing House of the RSU named after I. Kant, 2005 .-- 94 p.

Alimpieva A.V. Social identity of Kaliningraders in a social and geopolitical context. // Pskov Regional Journal. - 2009. - No. 7. - S. 36–47.

Andreichuk N.V., Gavrilina L.M. The phenomenon of the Kaliningrad regional subculture (socio-philosophical analysis). - Kaliningrad: Publishing House of the RSU named after I. Kant, 2011 .-- 138 p.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: raid14

Unfortunately, the seeds of the efforts of the West here may fall on a very well prepared soil, whose name is separatism, expressed in the ever greater identification by the inhabitants of Kaliningrad of the fate of their city not with Russia, but with the territorially closer Europe.

Here and where ... Well, I understand, the seeds of separatism were thrown in Tatarstan in the first half of the 90s .. Ha-ha, I would have looked with pleasure at their "sovereignty and independence" ... In the center of Russia ... And Kaliningrad is so important, so much blood was shed for it - I wouldn’t hesitate to bring tanks into the streets at the first small steps towards the Kaliningrad Bolotnaya ... To think about separatism "soft power" has forgotten! Look, in Moscow on Bolotnaya let them go ... I would have dumped them "geographically close" ... Whoever is close - let him bring down! And Kaliningrad is ours and will be ours! Who wants to review the results of the Second World War - we beg ... who gets pissed - like in Europe there is no longer anyone we haven't beaten ... Unless the Portuguese and Luxembourg ....

[barsuk]

I would not hesitate to bring tanks into the streets at the first small steps towards Kaliningrad Bolotnaya

Do not forget who is sitting in these tanks. At the first casualties among the civilian population, tanks can become their defense.

[- = ANTRAX = -]

during the reign of the blue, the chance of disintegration (once more) was fully envisaged by the "partners" and the events according to the Chechen scenario were good news for them. it was no coincidence that they were so ennobled and supported.

[Igor V]

Ryde14 does not own information or wishful thinking. Yes, there were separatists in Kaliningrad in the old days. All five people regularly went to some pickets, received a treat from the owner for this. In recent years, nothing has been heard about them. There was a free newspaper here, pouring mud not only on Soviet, but on the whole Russian, but it disappeared somewhere. But not everything is so rosy. Since the 90s, Germany has been creating a fifth column here, encouraging Russian Germans not to go to Vaterland, but to settle in KO. For this they receive good preferences. But, however, knowing some of these Germans, I got the impression that they remained quite healthy people and did not become the fifth column, like the liberals. But who knows. Young people now, just because of their isolation from Russia, are becoming more and more patriotic, especially against the background of the current European failures and silly politicians. Still, our government would do something, but we would not fail.

[barsuk]

As well as a large number of ethnic Lithuanians, who can serve as a tool in pressure on the Russian Federation.

[Pharao7766]

Quote: Igor V

Igor Today, 12:09 ↑ New
Ryde14 does not own information or wishful thinking. Yes, there were separatists in Kaliningrad in the old days.

Ride 14 may have thickened the colors a little, but in the main he is right - Kaliningrad is located beyond three borders and trips to the rest of Russia are somewhat more difficult than driving them to Poland for groceries (and not only on weekends). And from here comes the feeling that you already seem to be not Russia already ... especially among young people. But the most important thing is that this is an absolute change ... of the local authorities who have turned the region into their own feeding trough! Now a new acting has been sent. governor ... but it will still be clear whether he will correct something or not. (while the local "elite" have no strains with him). In the meantime, the region of Russia is in the "center" of Europe with an ass with work and salaries. Go to any local resource and admire the number of liberal hamsters yapping at power for any reason ... if this is not creating public opinion on the ground.
The mess there is decent, and it must be removed yesterday and directly from Moscow.

[Igor V]

As for the authorities, I agree completely. And first of all, Moscow should attend to our problems. In the old days, a group of deputies and the government was created, headed by Rogozin, introduced a half-way decision on transit and calmed down. But Sev-zap customs created the most problems. Before her, our customs was directly subordinate to Moscow. NWT has killed countless enterprises appearing on the basis of SEZ. In a strange way, such enterprises later appeared in the Leningrad Region. Rare enterprises withstood customs. Avtotor, the owner of which was the former Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the RSFSR, his subordinates occupied leading offices in the Russian government, went to court with customs for years, brought documents to the court with wagons, but still won the right to life. But not everyone can.
In general, life in KO so far goes contrary to, and not thanks to. And I would really like to have a little attention paid to us against the background of the Crimea. After all, Kaliningrad is no longer the mother-in-law of the president’s city.

[Beetech]

"S-400 is one of the most deadly systems" ... That is how to call a purely defensive complex - beyond good and evil ...
Alternative talent - in all the fields that is said.

[Gormenghast]

If we proceed from the paradigm of Russia's aggressiveness, then yes, Kaliningrad is extremely important strategically and - yes, to all young NATO members - to be afraid!

And if you remove the missile defense elements from the Russian borders; remove extraneous non-national troops; stop Baltic Russophobia and stop infringing on Russian "under-people", oh, sorry, "non-citizens" - then all fear will disappear immediately.

[Altona]

Quote: Finches

But there is also a nuance that must be taken into account - isolation from mainland Russia, which can easily drive our group into a "cauldron" in the event of a military conflict! Therefore, NATO is strengthening its presence in the Baltic States, hinting at this to us ...

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To create a "hand of death" there, which will automatically do everything necessary, shooting potential NATO bridgeheads.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Altona

To create a "hand of death" there, which will automatically do everything necessary, shooting potential NATO bridgeheads.

She is, just add goals)))
But in general, what were they hoping to expand their NATU? It’s the same as climbing on a den, arranging ski dances on it and at the same time hoping that the teddy bear will not jump out to pile on the insolent ears.

[Stinger]

There was no need to climb into eastern Europe and there was nothing to fear. They would flaunt women in beautiful military uniforms, feed themselves from American hands and talk about the fate of the world in soft chairs. Now turnips are scratched. After all, they warned repeatedly. Dumb, or what?

[evge-malyshev]

On our territory we want to place what we want. Without your permission.

[Vit70]

When the Baltic countries joined NATO, Kaliningrad became hostile territory in the very center of the western alliance.

That is, if Gribo-Baltics had not joined NATO, Kaliningrad (read Russia) would not have become a "hostile territory"? Burned, onolitegs, in their mouth with a rocker.

[V.ic]

This cry is just an open message to "our 5th column". Like, do at least something, influence ...

[Alexey-74]

Kaliningrad - as an outpost in the West, and it must be strengthened by all possible forces and means

[Mountain shooter]

How long can you tease a bear? And how long should the pole be, which is poked into the den? What are the psheks hoping for? In Baltiysk, our RTOs with "Caliber" stand. Which "from the pier" cover France, Germany and Britain. So what you can present, as they say in Odessa. Really, neither psheks, nor balts are able to understand that NOBODY will fight for them. No NATO.

[The stranger]

Nato in Europe should not be afraid of the Kaliningrad Iskanders, but of his lack of Europe. For in this territory, all of its warfare is several hysterical officials of retirement age, deployed in a pair of moldy Brussels hotels.
The banner is the banner. Idea. The same suddenly recalled Panfilovites. And here is the archive clerical folder, with the retired secretary's bikini accidentally clamped in it - ...
No, before the formation of his battalion, not even a joke for the sake of it - I won’t pass this way. So there is no NATO. It was not for them to swear, and for more than yawning, and switching the TV channel hearing their command, they should not count.

[Incvizitor]

They didn’t think why the Iskanders were pointing at them? Maybe you should be wary of the FSA military bases? Although why should they think?

[witch]

Quote: Spartanez300

That will hang over you like a sword of Damocles.

I wouldn’t have any illusions. If the geyropeyts start attacking RUSSIA, then they will sing in their eyes that everything is good but from behind the scenes they will throw Kaliningrad region with nuclear bombs. And no matter how you go, everything goes to war. Only the blind man doesn’t see anything and analyze can not.

[Zubr]

Citizens "partners", don't jerk your polished asses or whine. We haven't touched you yet.

[Igor V]

What, in essence, is the EU? A bunch of motley countries, united by a fear of Russia and American troops. Economic interests are no longer considered after the grave of economic relations with Russia and tearing apart weak countries by strong ones. To preserve the EU, which is not only cracking, but also breaking, it is necessary to strengthen these two factors - troops and Russophobia. What we see.
What exactly are EU policies? These are deeply provincial small-town leaders who live according to the principle: "When the master comes, the master will judge us." Thanks to this position, they do not feel responsible for their words and actions. But in vain. All the same, they will have to answer for them, but, unfortunately, more often not by themselves, but by the people living in their countries.

[Wolka]

nothing superfluous, but Kaliningrad is really a good sedative for some hot goals from NATO in Europe

[Old26]

Quote: Finches

We're talking about conventional weapons! But indeed, we have a "funny" missile "Rubezh" with a minimum flight range of 2000 km ... The Americans groan at it, pointing out the alleged violation of the INF Treaty!

Everyone has such funny rockets, the Americans call it "Trident"

Quote: Finches

This is the modernization of ICBMs of the Yars mobile ground-based missile system, which will be fully put into service next year!

This is, let's say, not a modernization of Yars. This is a complex with a rocket created on the basis of Yars' developments. Upgrades usually have the same indexes as the base product, with numbers added. At "Rubezh" it is different. As for the time of putting into service, it was planned this year, although this is unlikely to happen.

[gaudin]

Quote: Finches

isolation from mainland Russia, which can easily drive our group into a "cauldron" in the event of a military conflict!

Yeah, 1500 soldiers in the Baltic states can stop the advance of at least one division. If necessary, they will pass through the Baltic countries like a hot knife through butter.

[Operator]

The Iskander-M and S-400 air defense systems in the Kaliningrad Region will become truly dangerous weapons only after they are placed in underground shelters protected from the MLRS of Poland and Lithuania.

And yet - the Kaliningrad region is an enclave only in peacetime, in wartime, a corridor through Lithuania breaks through to it at the expense of times, after which the Baltic becomes an enclave.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Spartanez300

That will hang over you like a sword of Damocles.

Do you at least understand the essence of Cicero's story about the sword?

[gladcu2]

Auto RU

You already somehow decide.

S-400 - "one of the best" or the best? If one of the best, there are 10 of them. Then there is no talk.