The construction of the Harmony tracking system has begun

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According to the latest reports, in the foreseeable future, the Russian armed forces will commission a state-of-the-art tracking system, which will allow monitoring of various water areas by performing detection of surface, underwater and airborne objects. Domestic media report that by now the new project has reached the stage of construction of some objects, approaching the beginning of full-fledged work. According to reports, the new sonar tracking system is called "Harmony".

Details of current work under the Harmony program were published on November 25 by the Izvestia newspaper. The article “Russia Deploys a Global Marine Tracking System” revealed some details of current work and the general appearance of promising tracking tools. Previously, some data about the latest project was already available for free. The latest publication at the moment seriously complements the existing picture and reveals new details. At the same time, however, most of the information about the Harmony project is still not to be disclosed and, apparently, will remain secret for the next few years.



According to Izvestia, the Russian Ministry of Defense has already begun to deploy a prospective tracking system and has begun construction of several facilities from its structure. It is reported that in the city of Severomorsk preparation for the construction of the so-called. workshops for the preparation of robotic monitoring products of the World Ocean. This part of the program is referred to as "Harmony-C". The construction of the object will deal with the Federal Agency for Special Construction (Spetsstroy). Terms of completion of construction and installation of equipment are not specified.

The construction of the Harmony tracking system has begun


In addition, a facility is already under construction, from which a new tracking system will be managed. On the territory of a military unit located in the village of Belushya Guba (Novaya Zemlya archipelago) a new command post is being built, which will manage the work of the Harmony complex. The project for the construction of a control center was given the symbol “Harmony-NZ”. Apparently, additional letters in the names of objects were formed from the names of the areas of their location.

According to reports, the development of the Harmony system began several years ago in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense. The lead contractor is the corporation of special-purpose space systems Kometa, which is part of the Almaz-Antey aerospace defense group. Also, the Malakhit St. Petersburg Marine Engineering Bureau and the Source Research and Development Institute of Battery Accredited Research Institute were involved in the work. The task of these organizations was to create separate elements of the tracking system.

It is known that the Malakhit SPMBM under the Harmony program was engaged in development work under the codes Harmony-Garage and Harmony-Pebble. The task of the NIAI "Source" was to create new batteries for autonomous devices of the tracking system. The details of the work of Malachite are unknown, whereas some information about the achievements of the Source was published not so long ago.

According to the national press, the main element of the perspective observation system is the so-called. autonomous bottom station (ADS). This product is a complex consisting of various means of observation, signal processing and communication. To the place of work ADF should be delivered using specially equipped submarines. Next, the station is dumped on the ground and brought into position. With the help of the available means, DAS monitors the water area independently and performs the detection of various objects. Data on the objects found over the air are transmitted to the control point of the system.

As follows from the available data, the autonomous bottom station incorporates a set of various special equipment and a control system for it. Thus, the project envisages the use of large-sized multi-element hydroacoustic antennas, providing monitoring of the situation and the detection of targets in a wide range of distances. It is mentioned that the hydroacoustic station from the composition of the ADS can operate in passive and active modes. Declared the ability to search for submarines, surface ships and even aircraft in the air.

Signals from the hydroacoustic systems should go to the data processing unit, which determines the main parameters of the target, such as the direction to it and the intended range. The data obtained in the automatic mode should be sent to the operators of the complex. As part of communication facilities, the bottom station should have a buoy lifting the transmitting antenna to the surface of the water.

Especially for the stations of the Harmony system, a new type of rechargeable batteries were developed, the characteristics of which correspond to special requirements. According to published documents, in the framework of the development work of Harmony, the NIAI Source has developed a design and production technology for lithium-polymer batteries of types LP-16 and LP-16M, as well as 22S-1P batteries LP-16 and 16S-2P LP- 16M based on them. Batteries of new types are proposed to be built on the basis of promising batteries using an electronic control, monitoring and diagnostic system. The purpose of the latter is to improve battery performance and increase operational safety.

The LP-16 battery is a device with dimensions 253 x172 xX NUMX mm 6 g. The rated capacity is determined at the level of 450 A номина h, the rated voltage is 16 V, however, the operating voltage range is from 3,65 V to 2,6 B. The maximum discharge current is 4,2 A . LP-80М has similar parameters, but differs in capacity, increased to 16 A ∙ h and maximum discharge current 17,5 A. also the designers managed to achieve some reduction in the mass of the product. In the case of both batteries, operation is guaranteed at temperatures from -88 ° C to + 10 ° C.

The 22S-1P LP-16 battery has a rated capacity of 16 A ∙ h and a rated voltage of 80 B. The discharge current is up to 80 A. The battery is fully assembled, with connectors, etc. equipment, has dimensions 386x214x255 mm and weighs no more than 22 kg. The 16S-2P LP-16M is larger and heavier: 396x300x262 mm with 24 kg of mass. At the same time, it has a capacity of 24 A ∙ h and a rated voltage of 58 B. The maximum discharge current is 27,5 A. The operating time of batteries and batteries based on them is 300 cycles. Service life is defined in 5 years.

The latest power supplies should provide long-term operation of hydroacoustic and other systems of an autonomous bottom station. The battery life, however, is not reported. Battery maintenance should be carried out at appropriate naval facilities fleet or, perhaps, by the crew of ships or carrier submarines.

It is alleged that the new type of ADS will be able to automatically collapse before returning from duty. At the same time, the station will independently remove antennas and a radio communication buoy, after which it will be able to return to the shore with appropriate means to prepare for the next stage of work.

According to Izvestia, autonomous bottom stations of the Harmony system can be combined into a single complex and work together. Several ADFs connected to each other and a single point of control will be able to simultaneously monitor large and extensive water areas. The specific parameters of the area of ​​responsibility of such a complex or a separate station were not specified. We are talking about hundreds of square kilometers with the joint operation of several ADFs.

The announced architecture and principles of operation of the Harmony system and its autonomous stations indicate the need to use certain vessels, the task of which will be to deduce ADF to the duty station with their subsequent installation. Exact data on this is not yet available, but certain assumptions have already been made. The Russian Navy has a number of submarines and special purpose ships, which, at least in theory, can become carriers of autonomous bottom systems.

It should be noted that specially equipped submarines should become the most convenient and promising carriers of the ADF. Such equipment, in contrast to surface ships, has the ability to covertly enter a given area with the subsequent deployment of a bottom station. At the same time, the potential enemy will have minimal chances to learn about the locations of the autonomous bottom stations, thanks to which the areas where the Harmony system elements are located will remain a secret.

Several special submarines of the domestic fleet can be considered as possible carriers of the Harmony ADS. According to various sources, the B-90 Sarov diesel-electric submarine of project 20120, as well as the nuclear-powered BS-411 Orenburg (project 09774), K-139 Belgorod (project 949AM) and some others have the ability to transport a similar payload. ships. According to previously published information, the existing special submarines can solve the problems of transporting and using robotic systems for various purposes. From a certain point of view, autonomous bottom stations of the Harmony detection system are also robots, which may be an argument in favor of the version of the use of existing submarines.

The developed tracking and detection system “Harmony” in the future will have to solve one of the most important tasks in protecting the borders of the country. Deploying a number of ADFs managed from one or several command posts will allow you to continuously monitor the selected water area. According to reports, such equipment will be able to detect submarines or surface ships, as well as perform the detection of some aircraft. Thus, the potential enemy will actually lose the possibility of covert access to the area where the bottom stations are located. When a submarine or a ship approaches the deployed ADS for a certain distance, the automatics will record their presence and transmit data to the crew on duty.

The published data on the appearance of the “Harmony” system are of particular interest from the point of view of possible application methods. Thus, the creation of an autonomous station, suitable for withdrawal to a given area and removal from duty at a certain time, gives the whole complex some advantages. The mobility of individual tracking systems in theory allows you to deploy the necessary objects in any areas of the oceans. First of all, such funds will have to cover the Russian coast, but if necessary, ADF can be installed in any other areas of interest to the Russian Navy.

At the moment, it is known about the preparation for the construction of some objects of a promising complex and the beginning of work on the creation of others. Information on the development of autonomous bottom stations and information about their carriers has not yet been announced and probably will not be made public in the near future. For this reason, while some aspects of a prospective project are subject to predictions and discussions. Among other things, the timing of the start of operation of "Harmony" remains questionable. Thus, the start of operation of individual elements of the complex is already mentioned, but their composition and other features, for understandable reasons, remain secret.

It will take some time for the fleet to complete the construction of new facilities and the development of promising technology. Only after all the necessary work has been completed, the Harmony tracking system will be able to begin full-fledged work on the protection of maritime borders. The most likely time frame can be considered the end of the current decade. By 2020, all new facilities will be commissioned, and it is also possible that work on the creation of individual elements of the complex will be fully completed. It should be noted that deviations from such a “schedule” in both directions are possible. The lack of official data does not allow accurate predictions.

As follows from the latter News, In the foreseeable future, the Russian armed forces will receive new means of monitoring important water areas. The efforts of several enterprises of the defense industry created a promising tracking system "Harmony", which includes a number of different components. Some elements of this system may already be ready, while others are just under construction. All required work will have to be completed within the next few years, after which the navy will receive new means of detecting the enemy in a particular area.


On the materials of the sites:
http://izvestia.ru/
http://rgmt.spb.ru/
http://deepstorm.ru/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/

Detailed data on batteries developed by NIAI "Source":
http://rgmt.spb.ru/catalog/upload/files/Garmoniya.pdf
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  1. +4
    28 November 2016 08: 34
    Thank you for the article.
    It was always interesting if we had something like that.
    Is it our analogue of the American SOSUS or is it something else?
    1. +2
      28 November 2016 11: 47
      "Spetsstroy" will be engaged in the construction of the object ...? So, it has already been stated that "spetsstroy", as a structure, is subject to liquidation for systematic waste of budgetary funds.
    2. 0
      5 December 2016 00: 02
      This is probably a special disinformation, as the Americans at one time divorced the USSR into a space attack and defense program.

      Such things are stored above owls. secretly.
  2. +4
    28 November 2016 08: 55
    Crap sawn (conditionally real name):
    1. No ice buoy will rise in the ice.
    2. Where the beacon rises - there is the bottom station - where is SECRET?
    3. Without a buoy, the system can only work in the standby mode of a signal about the beginning of the war in order to release a buoy and give the coordinates of targets - until this moment it is useless.
    4. The output of the sub-carrier of this crap will be accompanied by tracking of enemy submarines and robotic means, and therefore the installation site of Khreni will be well known to the enemy for taking appropriate measures, deliberate damage or falling asleep with his nets / mines (disposable AUV / gliders) to make it difficult to coagulate and return delivery - i.e. loss of billions of people's money for the reckless mischief of under-engineers.
    5. Work in active mode will again reveal the location of this crap with all the ensuing consequences.

    The only way to get information about the underwater situation is to use my robotic sailing crewless catamarans and underwater gliders (including under ice). There are ideas on how to get the glider antenna out of the ice.
    1. +7
      28 November 2016 11: 02
      Ice is not everywhere.
      The antenna does not have to stick out of the water.
      Do you already know everything about the algorithm of its work?
      Basically, she will be in our ter. waters. Destroying something at the bottom is not so simple. The cost of a lost station is not commensurate with the cost lost with the same opening boat or NK.
      1. 0
        28 November 2016 12: 25
        Quote: lelikas
        The antenna does not have to stick out of the water

        ? Another "Chubais" with new physical principles?
        Quote: lelikas
        she will be in our ter. waters

        To do this, there is a gas-powered gas supply from the shore - 25 km. And yes, they will help little in case of war: compare the range of at least Tomogavkov with the maximum definition of this Crap ...
        Quote: lelikas
        Destroying something at the bottom is not easy

        Last year, there was news about the ANPA demolition mine near the Pipe of the Northern_flow_1 - it's like that, for wits we were scared ... To destroy a stationary thing under water is SIMPLY SIMPLE - if you know where it is - and they will know! I myself develop gliders including and for it..
        Quote: lelikas
        Do you already know everything about the algorithm of its work?

        Yeah, more than yours for sure ...
        1. +2
          28 November 2016 12: 41
          I am glad that you have such an interesting and necessary work, from here, probably, a hysteria - do gliders push in?
        2. +1
          28 November 2016 15: 38
          Quote: Aviagr
          I myself develop gliders including and for this ..

          Well, the Americans, in your early warning system, have done so that how do you steal bucks? And yes, our nuclear submarines are constantly ... ny and pop up off the coast of America, but they did it. And we need such a system. GLADER YOU ARE OUR. Ikak you on your Wed-th glider in the Barents in the winter will destroy something ?????? Yes, and on any NK with grief in half
          1. 0
            28 November 2016 19: 11
            So they did SOSUS in the 60s - why don't they modernize it now on new principles and an electronic database ?! And the fact that our submarines "float" in INTERNATIONAL waters - which may be surprising, our barents, but not the fact that they HAVE NOT BEEN SPECIFIED earlier !!! Read the literature: all our SSBNs back in the Soviet Union "led" two or three of their boats and would hardly give a "bullet" - our submarines are still only TARGETS! And now, immediately after leaving the base, they are taken under escort and followed on their heels, but surveillance by nuclear submarines is expensive! That is why they are switching to cheaper robotic means (AKTUV) and distributed network-centric glider networks, which will transfer them (PL) "from hand to hand." And under the ice - the search and destruction of submarines only gliders or robotic submarines (hundreds of times more expensive). So listen to "one smart thing" when the experts say ... hi
            1. +1
              16 December 2016 21: 46
              Do not talk nonsense. What kind of literature? Rezun?
    2. +1
      28 November 2016 13: 28
      And it seems to me that this is a duck for a potential adversary, it would be the MO to declassify such a system. There are our special-purpose boats, most of them do not know anything about them, the enemy is twitching because of them. Harmony system This is the same story as the 6 Status project.
      But let the enemies be nervous.
      1. +1
        28 November 2016 13: 53
        Quote: RASKAT
        But let the enemies be nervous.

        Well, if there were such idiotes as in our Moscow Region - maybe they were nervous .. but there specialists systematically promote robotic systems:
        Quote: lelikas
        hysterics - do gliders push in?

        - This is not a hysteria, but a statement of danger - the Americans allocated 3bn wrappers to their development, so that our fleet will soon become indifferent targets. And these are not useless electromagnetic guns, but quite real drifting-moving mines, the search and destruction of which is much more difficult than ordinary anchor or ground ones. Moreover, there is no clear fact of their installation, change of location per hour Х (before that they can be far from the pilot) and many other advantages, including reconnaissance and constant tracking of submarines, especially nuclear submarines - you do not need to drive either ships or aircraft: a distributed network in the ocean will constantly "guide" them (the nuclear submarine), transmitting observation from glider to glider, some of which can also be with torpedoes - i.e. destruction by satellite signal.
        Divanoid optimism and swagger were dear to the Papuans and Indians of all Americas ...
        1. +1
          28 November 2016 14: 17
          Well, at the expense of detection and destruction - there is still worked out with the PMV, the process will only become more complicated. If the entire network is tied to satellites, then they will be brought down first.
          Again, returning to candy wrappers - stationary, they make it to reduce the cost, and our fleet, only to be honest, has long been littoral and actually not capable of doing its job without support from the shore.
          It seems to me that both the Papuans and the Indians were ruined by something else - the progress and greed of the colonialists.
        2. +2
          28 November 2016 14: 24
          Well, if there were idioty like in our Moscow region - maybe they were nervous

          But what about F 117 and other similar wunderwafers from the American military industry? I wouldn’t so clearly say that we have only idioty.
          As for mobile mines, here, too, is not so simple. What energy will they move to? their sizes? speed of movement? depth? How will they identify goals? with the help of which waves (long or short) and if both of them, then what sizes will these devices be? And how will they keep in touch with the center? if their area of ​​application will be up to many-meter ice of the Arctic? And how many of them need to be set up to sow all the oceans, because our boats today are, for example, in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and tomorrow somewhere near Cape Horn off the coast of Chile?
          And indeed, as soon as at least a few ships sink and our leadership understands that this is a war, missiles will immediately fly in response in the states.
          It is cheaper to be friends with us than to fight! angry
          1. 0
            28 November 2016 17: 28
            Quote: RASKAT
            and tomorrow somewhere near Cape Horn off the coast of Chile?

            More likely at the mooring or on a metal cutting ...
            Mines and glider-signaling devices (presence of submarines or surface ships) block exits from naval base, straits and probable deployment routes. Everything has already been worked out to automatism ...
            1. +1
              28 November 2016 18: 47
              Minami and glider signaling devices

              At the exit from Avacha Bay, the depth range is from 1500 to 7000m. What mines? what do you attach them to?
              So big and believe in fairy tales lol
              1. +1
                28 November 2016 19: 18
                Gliders - DO NOT Drown! At least serviceable. The Chinese already have gliders to the depth of 1500m, ours - to 100m, and the Americans to 6tys - that’s the whole difference ... The glider is a slow-moving payload carrier, which can be a torpedo or a mine. Depth - from 0.
                If only they would take an interest in the Internet - somehow it is lazy for the hundredth time to explain the same thing on all sites ..
          2. +2
            28 November 2016 21: 52
            Quote: RASKAT
            As for mobile mines, here, too, is not so simple. What energy will they move to? their sizes? speed of movement? depth? How will they identify goals? with the help of which waves (long or short) and if both of them, then what sizes will these devices be? And how will they keep in touch with the center? if their area of ​​application will be up to many-meter ice of the Arctic? And how many of them need to be set up to sow all the oceans, because our boats today are, for example, in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and tomorrow somewhere near Cape Horn off the coast of Chile?

            I fully support comrade Raskat. The glider himself unmasks itself when transmitting information to the control center, to detect a submarine, a powerful GAS is needed, and even then the detection range will be several tens of kilometers (no more than 30 kilometers), thus the "glider fields in the ocean" is FULL BOTH that only a person could write not representing the size of the ocean, it will take thousands, maybe tens of thousands of gliders just to cover, let's say, the most dangerous directions - there can be no question of any control of the ocean or escorting nuclear submarines.
            1. 0
              29 November 2016 07: 30
              You are right in one thing - gliders will require hundreds of thousands, so the whole question is the cost of their manufacture - I’m working on this. Detection of submarines will be conducted in a passive way by a network of gliders representing the likeness of a honeycomb of bees: we do not need to know the location of the submarine to the nearest centimeter, but only that it is currently in a specific cell of the cells. PLO torpedoes have an active search mode after splashdown / launch - this should be enough in most cases.
              I will fight quiet submarines on the "stirling" with the help of robotic sailing catamarans - there is also an active GAS mode.
              Unmasking a glider by getting in touch will not help you much - it’s mobile and in depth - you can chase minesweepers and fishing seiners after it, but it’s cheaper with my RPBC.
      2. +1
        28 November 2016 13: 58
        Quote: RASKAT
        But let the enemies be nervous.
        It is unlikely that the same Yankees will be nervous, most likely, they are well aware of our capabilities, be it "Harmony" or "jihadotorpeda". There is no doubt that it is high time to cover up our Arctic approaches; it is doubtful how and when this will be done. Enemy boats should not graze off our shores in the Arctic. I would very much like "Harmony" to be a useful project, and if this is a kind of misinformation, then there would be something real behind it in the foreseeable future.
    3. +1
      28 November 2016 15: 55
      Well, do you find ADS and then what? will you destroy? you still have to approach it imperceptibly, and then suddenly, at the most inopportune moment, the Russian Navy will start firing in the area, or even worse, which nuclear-powered submarine will float by and breathe air.
      1. AUL
        +2
        28 November 2016 16: 29
        Told you -
        The only way to get information about the underwater situation is to use my robotic sailing crewless catamarans and underwater gliders (including under ice).

        So, everything else is drank dough and intrigues of under-engineers! And you, narrow-minded, still argue!
        1. 0
          28 November 2016 17: 13
          The only sensible post! drinks
          Other opportunities to build non-cableable A GA network outside of its thermostats is impossible!
          Quote: Vlad.by
          it’s still necessary to approach her

          On the glider? Or Proteus? Or an AUV like Slokum? - you just don’t even imagine the means of combating such elements - the Americans will not be on rubber boats with rubber women to look for this Crap ... Shoot whatever you want, float at least tan-brown - you can’t contrast anything with the tiny quiet submarine vehicles that will soon flood all of our coastal waters!
          This is being destroyed simultaneously with missile defense radar, satellites and other strategic systems.
    4. vka
      +1
      28 November 2016 17: 10
      you immediately see the knowledge is not enough
      1. 0
        28 November 2016 17: 23
        Academician of the Divan RAS? Or the "officer's daughter", wiping off the entire tongue, gluing labels to everyone with saliva? Most likely - just an employee of Malachite, who sawed 5 yards into worthless...
        1. +5
          28 November 2016 19: 42
          And what about the longitudinal polarization of the medium?
          And it very much somehow resembles Gridasov, only about gliders .... wassat
          1. +1
            28 November 2016 21: 24
            Wednesday? I only "polarize" on Friday, but even then longitudinally .. drinks
    5. 0
      28 November 2016 21: 30
      Quote: Aviagr
      No ice buoy will rise in the ice.



      And about radio communications underwater at kilohertz frequencies, everyone has already forgotten a long time ago, probably. At the same time, the kagbe is not needed. Well, yes, this detracts from the dignity of gliders, but ...
      1. +1
        28 November 2016 21: 41
        Quote: Signor Tomato
        kilohertz frequencies

        There are no kilohertz, and their shares are 0,2 ... 0,5Hz. Acoustics - at these frequencies - km 15 maximum. Like whales on infrasound (1-5Hz) in certain layers - there are hundreds and thousands of kilometers, if there are no noises - but you won’t pass much information (bit / byte). Ice is bad in that it also bursts under the influence of wind and currents - it oscillates with similar frequencies, but of much greater power.
        Glider is not a panacea, I know how to transmit information from under the ice, but I need R&D to confirm it - they don’t even give me 3 lard in rubles. laughing
        But the glider is more dangerous as a mine / torpedo bomber.
        1. +2
          29 November 2016 22: 00
          There are no kilohertz, and their shares are 0,2 ... 0,5 Hz. Acoustics - at these frequencies - km 15 maximum.

          And then the acoustics? They wrote to you about radio communication (a person probably knows how to communicate with our boats without surfacing and beacons) Do you distinguish radio waves from sound ones? And there are gliders ....
          1. +1
            30 November 2016 07: 10
            The man was given BOTH response options to his delusions: if we are talking about KILAHZ - then it is possible only in acoustics, if it is about EM waves - there are NO KILAHZ, and share - Do not transmit information about the situation from the bottom to the land - and you need Megawatts!
            And also a divanoid - and it doesn’t know such things - and there too - to criticize ...
      2. +2
        29 November 2016 22: 03
        And about radio communications underwater at kilohertz frequencies, everyone has already forgotten a long time ago, probably.

        They destroyed the antenna field, if you know what I mean. Summer cottages are there now.
        Well, not for long to recover.
    6. KCA
      0
      29 November 2016 20: 50
      launching buoys from a depth of 2-3 kilometers is not considered? it is not very easy to track "Losharik" at a depth of 3 km, what and where will it release? and "Losharik" is only one special-purpose boat, which was lit up, maybe on purpose
      1. 0
        30 November 2016 07: 13
        Buoy cable connected to the system, be it a "losharik" or a bottom station: once it has surfaced, it means almost vertically under it there is the desired object - come and destroy it! What's unclear ?!
  3. 0
    28 November 2016 11: 06
    Spetsstroy seem to be abolished.
  4. +7
    28 November 2016 11: 37
    Next, the station is dumped on the ground and brought into working position.

    Once (about 30 years ago) with a friend, we rested with scuba diving in the Far East. They made friends there "for this business" with the hydroacoustic officers who worked at a similar station. They asked us to look at their station, they say, "the signals are passing through in a strange way." Since the station was at a depth of 60m (the limit for us, in terms of diving depth), we very quickly dived (along the descent end) and looked back. So the station (very similar to a spider), as it turned out, was lying upside down at the bottom. And as we were later explained, it had to be rigidly fixed with these paws (sticking up) on the ground, plus it was clearly oriented to the cardinal points ...
    So you can do anything you want, but here’s how and by whom it will be exploited, with a modern mess - that’s the main question. The main thing is people and their preparation.
  5. +3
    28 November 2016 13: 44
    I don’t think it will be a global tracking system ... the mattresses tried to create such a SOSUS system, but it turns out very expensive, so we abandoned this business. I suppose, all the same, Harmony is a system of the coastal zone and possibly the near sea zone.
  6. 0
    28 November 2016 15: 23
    Not won, but lost, not in the lottery, but in cards, and not the Volga, but ten thousand.
    Everything is secret, everything is strictly secret, but from reliable sources it is known ...
    Anyone interested in this topic should read "The history of the creation of attack underwater drones in Russia from 1999 to 2015." http://vladimir37.livejournal.com/41029.html
    Last month on this resource was published my proposal regarding the promotional project "Polar Route".
    https://topwar.ru/102397-promo-proekt-polyarnyy-m
    arshrut.html
    Currently, the so-called business plan regarding this proposal is under consideration by the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.
    Now regarding the article itself. The merits of Malachite in this project are either good or nothing.
    Go straight to the batteries. What's new in lithium polymer batteries?
    Quote: "Batteries of new types are proposed to be built on the basis of advanced accumulators using an electronic control, monitoring and diagnostic system." (end of quote)
    How can it be otherwise today? Otherwise, no one does!
    Let's take a closer look at the merits.
    The nominal capacity of the LP-16 battery is 16 A ∙ h, the nominal voltage is 3,65 V. Weight 0,45 kg. This means that its specific energy is 130 W * h / kg.
    If we compare it with the serially produced battery LT – LYP770, produced by Liotech (still working bankrupt), then the latter has this figure of 93 W * h / kg .. As if by 40% more. It would seem not so hot, but already a success.
    Only further - the most interesting.
    Quote: "The 22S-1P LP-16 battery has a nominal capacity of 16 A ∙ h and a nominal voltage of 80 V. The discharge current is up to 80 A. The fully assembled battery, with the installation of connectors and other equipment, has dimensions of 386x214x255 mm. and weighs no more than 22 kg. "
    In other words, the 22S-1P LP-16 battery is comparable in volume and weight characteristics to the LT-LYP770 battery (Liotech). But, if we calculate the specific energy of the "battery" here, then it will be equal to 58 W * h / kg.
    AND? What is the achievement? Someone lied, or someone cheated. What will be the options? Maybe I was wrong, then tell me what.
    Success is now expected from lithium-sulfur batteries. Their prototypes showed remarkable results in specific energy.
    Hooray, hooray, there’s a hole in the pope!
  7. 0
    28 November 2016 16: 04
    Installation of hydroacoustic overview of the surface / underwater situation outside the territorial waters and with the transmission of data over the air - utopia in every sense (sailors will sail and cut the whole communication system to hell) am
    1. 0
      28 November 2016 16: 29
      Perhaps so. Only you make your conclusion based on this article. And your humble servant a couple of years ago suggested starting to create an underwater navigation system (with some FOSS functions) for specific (at first experimental) routes of drones like SFTS. Duty navigation systems, of course, can also be destroyed. But, this will be tantamount to the destruction of lighthouses, and this is already banditry (or terrorism). And if we talk about underwater navigation systems, then I will have to be mentioned. To mention me is to remember "The history of the creation of attack underwater drones in Russia." And for some people, mentioning this story means admitting to what woodpeckers do. Many of those people, like yours truly, are still alive. It won't work out well.
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        28 November 2016 16: 57
        I have nothing against FOSS, but I emphasize once again - lighthouses are located on the national territory and their destruction is an act of aggression with understandable consequences.

        Equipment located in the oceans outside territorial waters is defenseless against a potential adversary.
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          28 November 2016 17: 02
          GPS and GLONASS satellites are not located on national territory.
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            28 November 2016 17: 14
            Space satellites are in fact an exception to the rule.
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              28 November 2016 17: 32
              Who excluded?
              Let's end this debate. If war breaks out, the location of lighthouses on the national territory will not make sense at all. The deliberate destruction of the maritime safety system even outside the territorial waters in peacetime by all countries will be openly recognized as terrorism. Also, it won't be easy to do. The devices of the system will be able (by necessity) to work in an active mode to ensure safety. The safety functions of navigation inevitably carry some of the functions of FOSS. Yes, it will be like a fence that has a number of controlled "gates" along its length. Can you break a fence in an arbitrary place? Not a problem. It can be immediately restored and notified of the incident from the rostrum (at least the UN).
              Take your time with exceptions. There are subtleties of perception (what is considered allowed and what is not).
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                28 November 2016 17: 56
                Fear God - that we, that the Americans destroyed and / or installed special equipment on the cue cloud of communication and hydrophone devices in international waters during the Soviet era, and nothing, TMV somehow broke out.

                And as soon as China brought down its Chinese satellite, a wave of righteous anger poured.

                The reason is simple - the satellites are at a glance, an attempt from any side to damage them is immediately identified and charges are brought.

                Hydroelectric devices at the bottom are not visible to anyone - failure due to intentional destruction cannot be proved: such as either Russians, or Chinese, and maybe even North Korean absolution.

                According to Roman law - not caught, not a thief.

                And one more thing: there is a fence on its territory, and on a draw - no one's.
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                  28 November 2016 18: 57
                  You expressed your point of view. I expressed my. Let's judge others.
                  The argument "not caught - not a thief" is iron.
                  Two points in which we disagree:
                  1) Between "breaking some kind of fence" and "breaking the fence, which is designed for your detection and identification" - the distance is enormous.
                  2) "Cueva cloud of communication and hydrophone devices" is one thing, and the safety system of navigation between the Russian Arctic islands (and this is what we are talking about, if anyone does not understand) is completely different.
                  God sees that this is all our discrepancy. I think that this question is completely settled.
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    28 November 2016 22: 15
    I do not know what kind of "spetsstroy" there will be what to build, but it seems to have been liquidated due to numerous facts of theft of budget money and ineffective spending. hi
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    28 November 2016 23: 17
    All this gimmick with "Harmony" will result in a local tracking system NEAR YOUR naval bases, NOT MORE. And even this will result in a bunch of problems during operation. The system itself is VERY WEAK and very VULNERABLE. The prospects are extremely vague. And the main reason is ENERGY SUPPLY and COMMUNICATION. And it is unlikely that these global problems can be solved with the current level of technology in Russia ... So they will make noise, they will do something like it works, but ... at an amateur level ...
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    29 November 2016 02: 45
    Quote: Aviagr
    1. No ice buoy will rise in the ice.

    He does not need to rise above the ice. You do not have knowledge from the school curriculum.
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      29 November 2016 07: 38
      You had enough one class and corridor to the toilet ...
      And there is such a science - glaciology, in which all types of ice are studied - and so on the sea surface it most often is not a monolithic crystal, but a porous-fractured sponge in which salt water is distributed, creating a large attenuation for EM waves - but amateurs should know this is not necessary, you are right - the main thing is to understand the softness of sofas and glue labels to everyone ...
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    29 November 2016 18: 04
    Quote: Aviagr
    You had enough one class and corridor to the toilet ...
    And there is such a science - glaciology, in which all types of ice are studied - and so on the sea surface it most often is not a monolithic crystal, but a porous-fractured sponge in which salt water is distributed, creating a large attenuation for EM waves - but amateurs should know this is not necessary, you are right - the main thing is to understand the softness of sofas and glue labels to everyone ...

    Why glue them, you yourself write detailed TTX contents on your forehead.

    If, apart from the show-offs, you would also have the appropriate horizons, you would be aware of the trials of shaggy years conducted by the RPKSN of project 667BD K-92 under the command of V. Patrushev As a result, it turned out that through the ice in the Arctic, data can be transmitted over the air.

    So you can attach your squeal about the cut to the already written on the forehead: "Gorlopan."
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    29 November 2016 22: 11
    Quote: Aviagr
    I myself develop gliders including and for this

    - for sure ... and you too trailers developing, guessed? laughing
    Quote: Aviagr
    My Trailer is the best alternative to a tent = mass grave or a pile of stones on the ruins.
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      30 November 2016 07: 23
      I develop a lot of things: Trailers, Skolopendra, and gliders with RPBC - these are not your stone axes and holey bast shoes ..
      Quote: Mentat
      As a result, it turned out that through the ice in the Arctic, data can be transmitted over the air.

      The radio transparency of ice has been known for a long time. But there is no need to compare the megawatts of the submarine and the glider "Crown": the attenuation indicated by me does not allow the glider to receive GPS / Glonass signals or to send anything himself, based on ITS PHYSICAL capabilities. As mentioned above, it was already said about the EM underwater communication, which was supposed to be provided by the nuclear power plant on the shore - but only to give a command to shoot missiles, and not to transmit "online video". As amateurs got me with aplomb ...
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    30 November 2016 20: 02
    Quote: Aviagr
    only to issue a command to shoot missiles, and not transmit "online video". As amateurs with aplomb already got me

    “The amateur with aplomb”, as well as with trailers and hundreds of thousands of gliders in the roam, shines himself, or marks himself.

    Obviously, you can’t imagine, even estimatedly, the volume of a data packet to confirm the launch of missiles, which must pass even in an environment of active electronic countermeasures and guarantee the impossibility of fake or interception. Those. It has the highest cryptographic strength, includes redundant coding and, probably, multiple variable duplication. In other words, although not an “online video”, it is not small. But for you this is "just give a command."

    Meanwhile, the tracking station should not transmit so much information: coordinates, time stamp and type of target - and not necessarily in real time. The bandwidth of the channel required for such a transfer can be completely meager.
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      30 November 2016 20: 22
      Quote: Mentat
      "The amateur with aplomb", as well as with trailers and hundreds of thousands of gliders in the okian shines itself, or marks

      + 1000 laughing

      Quote: Aviagr
      My UAVs and Hogs? It comes to you for a long time ...
      Separation of the Gunner and the Emitter of control signals will save expensive optics, the lives of gunner soldiers and have more flexible control on the battlefield.
      Only Krasnopoli needs to be replaced with self-starting Cornets and Skolopendras in millions of quantities ...

      - an extremely funny character, IMHO Yes
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      1 December 2016 12: 58
      Quote: Mentat
      In other words, although not an “online video”, but is not small. But for you this is "just give a command."
      Meanwhile, the tracking station should transmit not much information: coordinates, time stamp and type of target - and not necessarily in real time. The bandwidth required for such a transmission may be completely miserable.

      I say amateur: in two paragraphs contradiction MYSELF, which is addressed to me for some reason ?!
      This one Get in touch and there is - missile launch team - don't stand here copy-paste excerpts from dissertations - smart people understand everything at a glance, amateurs - begin to drive near-scientific snowstorm ...
      They show you the difference finger и of, than you stir the sugar in a cup; and you skip the subject of conversation all the time: a glider or this bottom station DO NOT POWER the nuclear power of a nuclear submarine (or a land-based submarine communication station) to transmit radio messages from under the ice !! Everything! The rest is not a topic!
      Nor can they pick up weak GPS / Glonass signals - more importantly for positioning! - Here is the BASIC problem!
      Continuing stir sugar, pour hot boiling water ... And ManUlu too, he still won't grow out of a puppet theater - "characters" seem to be around ...
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    1 December 2016 18: 04
    And why not use something like RTGs as a power source, only with increased corrosion resistance? In Soviet times, we were leaders in this and the topic is very promising, especially with modern technology!
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    1 December 2016 19: 49
    Quote: Aviagr
    in two paragraphs, a contradiction to MYSELF, which is addressed to me for some reason ?!

    There is no contradiction: a) the amount of information to confirm the launch of missiles is significant; b) the amount of information transmitted from tracking stations is scanty. Accordingly, its transmission energy may be low.
    And you already have a tantrum. Soothing Accept.
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      1 December 2016 22: 27
      Quote: Mentat
      the amount of information to confirm the launch of missiles is significant; b) the amount of information transmitted from tracking stations is scanty. Accordingly, its transmission energy may be low.

      ..he looked back to see if she looked back to see if I looked back ...
      With such conclusions, you need to go to the Government or go to Chubais immediately. In general, you will see my sayings on the site - pass by - I don’t have time to retrain dumb thinkers ...
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    5 November 2017 20: 29
    Such a system would allow to destroy submarines and NK with ballistic missiles of any range with special. Bch ...

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