The President of Russia in Peru made a statement on a meeting with Obama, the detention of Ulyukaev and on the Kuril Islands

Russian President Vladimir Putin made several statements during a press conference in Peru, where an APEC summit is being held. Having held personal meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, the Russian president noted that the dynamics of trade and economic cooperation with China are improving and preparations are under way for a visit to the Japanese city of Nagato. At the same time, in personal conversations of Vladimir Putin with the aforementioned leaders, the heads of state called each other exclusively friends.

From the statement of the President of the Russian Federation on the possible signing of a peace treaty with Japan:

I would not like to get ahead of myself on the issue of the main problem we are dealing with - the preparation and signing of a peace treaty. I think that for both Russia and Japan the absence of such a treaty is an anachronism of the past, which prevents us from moving forward and developing. Our position is well known: what concerns the Kuril Islands is the result of the Second World War, and we believe that today it is a sovereign Russian territory, enshrined in international documents. I recall that in 1956, a corresponding document was signed between the USSR and Japan, where it was assumed that two islands would be returned to Japan. It was not said on what basis, under whose sovereignty the two islands will remain, under what conditions they will be transferred.

The Russian president also spoke about the meeting "on foot" with the current US President Barack Obama (quote RIA News):

We noted that although the dialogue between us was not easy, it was sometimes difficult to work with each other, but both I and President Obama noted that we always respected each other’s positions. I thanked for the years of working together and said that at any time, when he considers it possible, if there is a need and a desire, I will be glad to see him.

The conversation, as noted by the Russian leader, was "very brief."

Vladimir Putin made a statement regarding the detention of the Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Alexei Ulyukayev. According to the Russian president, this is “a very sad fact.”

After asking the journalist to make a comment on this issue, Vladimir Putin said:

Well, here to comment, this ultimately must comment on law enforcement and judicial authorities. Only after that it will be possible to say something in essence, but the very fact that this took place is a very sad fact. But I would like to say only that we will continue to carry out work related to the fact that we will not tolerate any manifestations of this kind. In my opinion, such actions of law enforcement agencies not only do not damage the business climate, but, on the contrary, only strengthen the business climate in Russia.

After that, the president noted that the law should be executed by every citizen of Russia, regardless of his official position.

Comments

[210ox]

A sad fact? Really sad, after all, the rest of the "Gaidar nest chicks" are at large ... and moreover, in power ...

[Stas157]

. preparation and signing of a peace treaty. I think that for both Russia and Japan, the absence of such an agreement is an anachronism of the past, which prevents us from moving forward and developing.

Well, what is preparing for the transfer of a pair of islands to Yap? The collector of Russian lands decided to throw the Russian zemlyatse to American puppets in exchange for a declaration of peace? Good mood to you all!
Now we are waiting for articles and comments, but how do we need a peace treaty with Amer’s puppets, and how Putin again defeated America.

[Diana Ilyina]

Stas157 Today, 06: 11 ↑ New
Now we are waiting for articles and comments, but how do we need a peace treaty with Amer’s puppets, and how Putin again defeated America.

Do not choke on bile and pick up snot, otherwise it is disgusting from you, like from a spoiled toilet! If only once they wrote something positive. With your glances, it is high time to lie in the coffin and shout "wefseumrem", you will be one of the first among all the fighters, but as they say, the dog barks in the wind!

[Stas157]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Do not choke on bile and pick up the snot, otherwise it is disgusting from you, as from a damaged toilet! If only once they wrote something positive. With your views it's time to lie in a coffin

Diana, it seems from bile, right this hour, you are drowning in streams of rude expressions addressed to me.
Diana, and you set an example, tell me something positive about the news about the imminent signing of a peace treaty with Japan. Maybe I didn’t see what? Maybe you have your own, more optimistic, view of this event?

[Talgat]

Sorry, I'm certainly here from the outside (I'm from Kazakhstan) but I can not help but notice the obvious

Of course, Putin can be criticized for a lot, but it is impossible not to mention

1) Before Putin, Russia turned its backside on us - and before Europe - no initiatives about Eurasian integration were heard - drunk Yeltsin flooded his crime of collapse of the empire with vodka - and the rules were seven-bankers

2) I must admit Putin heard and began the process of integration - and this is the greatest thing. Eurasia will still emerge as a Phoenix bird - as it did many times after the blows of Europe - remember Atilla and Rome, the Golden Horde, its heir to Tsarist Russia, and after the collapse of Eurasia rose even stronger - like the Stalin post-war USSR.

3) Putin removed the seven-banker system - he returned to the hands of the state and people the stolen industries - almost all oil / gas, Rosoboronexport (and before anyone started to profit from the same), atom, etc. - in total more than a dozen strategic industries - as a result, money appeared to close debts and pay military teachers to doctors etc

4) Russia under Eltsin began to disintegrate - a parade of sovereignty - feudal fragmentation - Putin and his team sealed and returned a single country - even within the framework of the RSFSR

5) Russia completely obeyed the enemy - the West. It was impossible to watch your TV - disgusting mud pouring of the entire Soviet past - they killed the soul of the people. After 2000 - admittedly, the rise of Russian self-awareness began. Otherwise, now it’s possible there’s no one to integrate with

this list goes on

Of course, Putin is not a communist and there are still oligarchs and capitalism in Russia - but still - his role is huge and positive - preserving the country - the hope for the restoration of our common Eurasian empire even in a very liberal form - the hope that we all will not fall under the rule of the West Fed or Kitaitsev - even friends now

I am sure that Eltsin would give the islands to Yapam easily

I am sure that the current leadership of Russia will do this only if there is REALLY no way out - but most likely I will not give it back. My grandfather fought with the Japanese in 45 - these islands were paid for not only by the blood of the peoples of the Russian Federation, but of the whole of Eurasia. These are generally our common islands - and Russia is simply obligated to leave them behind and bring them with them into a future alliance.

[Diana Ilyina]

Talgat Today, 10: 05 ↑
Sorry, I'm certainly here from the outside (I'm from Kazakhstan) but I can not help but notice the obvious

Bravo Talgat, a very balanced and positive outlook on the situation, I completely agree with you!

[Monarchist]

Stas, I must say that Diana and I are disagreeing for political reasons, but I also do not like "the guard is gone: Putin has surrendered the Kuril Islands, etc."

[Diana Ilyina]

Maybe you have your own, more optimistic, view of this event?

That's exactly what is optimistic, it's easier and more pleasant to live like that, and you will live longer! And what is signed there or not, I personally am neither hot nor cold. All the same, we still don’t recognize all the political arrangements, and all the agreements as well. And then what to lament ?!

And with your position, as I already wrote, it’s just right to go straight to the coffin and wait for the second coming with lamentations “Lelikusepalo” and “We will all die”! For me, this position is alien, I love life in all its manifestations. And to spoil my mood about something that has not happened yet, and is unlikely to happen, I think it is complete idiocy. In any case, from your heart-rending cries that "putinvsekhsil", it becomes simply disgusting and nothing more. In general, the opinion of you only gets worse from comment to comment. There is one more companion of yours for dislike of Putin, "gardamir", so you and him alone and arrange a correspondence, only in a personal, no need to throw your diarrhea at everyone. You will clearly find each other.

And about Putin, until 2014, I had a little better opinion of him than you are now, but certain events, as well as definite analysis of his steps and actions, made me sharply reconsider the opinion of our president. So if you are not able to see deeper and farther than your nose, then this is personally your problem and you should not throw your dung on a public fan about this.

[Stas157]

Quote: Monarchist

Stas, I must say that Diana and I are disagreeing for political reasons, but I also do not like "the guard is gone: Putin has surrendered the Kuril Islands, etc."

It’s better to scream in advance, while it may be possible to fix something, than then disappointedly shrug. Personally, I am outraged by the possible transfer of the islands of Japan. I do not want to restrain myself about this.

Quote: Diana Ilyina

And what is signed there or not, I personally am neither hot nor cold. All the same, we still don’t recognize all the political arrangements, and all the agreements as well. And then what to lament ?!

That is, you agree in advance to the transfer of the islands to the Japanese? It hurts me.

[Diana Ilyina]

Stas157 Today, 10: 40 ↑
It’s better to scream in advance, while it may be possible to fix something, than then disappointedly shrug.

Well, straight "schaz". So I see that Putin comes to the VO website, reads your lamentations, bites his conscience, they say, how is this, what am I doing, and will not go to Japan so as not to fall into the temptation to hand over the islands ...! You yourself understood what you wrote ?!
I myself am against any concessions to the Japanese at all, for their treachery, but the geopolitical interests of Russia are far from what we are discussing here. And to lament that firstly has not happened yet, and secondly it is unlikely to happen at all, I consider either stupidity or a purposeful desire to discredit the actions of the president on the world stage! The second is closer to the truth! And with the actions of the president, a rather small layer of liberal society is dissatisfied with us, about 8-10 percent of the Russian population. So the conclusion is who you are and what goals you pursue suggests itself!

P.S. And only a fool or an outspoken provocateur will deny the positive shifts of Putin’s policy towards the previous rulers like a drunk or bald!

[Bloodsucker]

There is such a look
At the meeting of the Izborsk Club in Sevastopol, the famous economist and adviser to the Russian president on Eurasian integration issues, Sergey Glazyev, said that the world is currently moving to a qualitatively new economy. A clear manifestation of this trend is the recent election in the United States.

Asked by journalists about whether the world will change after the American election, Glazyev noted that the political changes taking place around the world, including the United States, indicate that all of humanity is gradually moving to a new world economic structure, which is fundamentally different from globalization imposed by the liberals.
Source: http: //politexpert.net/19063-d ...
Of course, this is not about the Kuriles .. but it seems that the Japanese figs, at the expense of the Kuriles, the Khrushchev Declaration, like all the actions of this maize, are destructive in their consequences;

[Stas157]

Ah, Diana! How contradictory you are! You already decide, or you do not care before the Kuril Islands:

Quote: Diana Ilyina

And what is signed there or not, I personally am neither hot nor cold.

or you really don’t want the transfer of the islands:

Quote: Diana Ilyina

I myself am against any concessions to the Japanese at all

Ah, there’s no way for me to understand you.))
Even Diana, a decent woman, is not painted at all by rude words like:

Quote: Diana Ilyina

your lamentations

Quote: Diana Ilyina

And moan about

Quote: Diana Ilyina

from your heart-rending cries

Quote: Diana Ilyina

throw your dung on

By this you do not hurt me, but humiliate yourself.)))

[dauria]

. Personally, I am outraged by the possible transfer of the islands of Japan. I do not want to restrain myself about this.

Personally, I saw an excellent speech by Putin as a diplomat - nothing concrete and did not offend anyone. Or should Putin say head-on, "Shut up, the Americans rule you, and don't dream of strategically important territory"? So this should be said by Putin, the supreme commander-in-chief at his closed meeting, and not to journalists.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

The sad fact is that Koch, Gref, Chubais, Vasiliev, Siluans and a hedgehog with them are free ...

[34 region]

05.44. 210quq! And on what grounds should they be arrested? The results of privatization are not subject to revision. Engage in today's criminal cases? Well, they are probably not naive guys and do all things with lawyers. Occupy important posts. If only their subordinates would surrender them? But they may not accidentally live up to the trial as in Serdyukov’s case. Arrest for supporting liberal politics? There is no such article. Question. What can they be taken for? For a bribe? It is necessary to prove it. What else can you do?

[colonel manuch]

Everyone understands that "liberoids" are primarily enemies of Russian statehood, hence one should "dance", I hope cases have been opened for each of them, and the article is not difficult to find.

[Stas157]

Quote: Region 34

Question. What can they be taken for? For a bribe? It is necessary to prove it. What else can you do?

What the hell is Ulyukaev with his unfortunate two million ?! Islands are preparing to transfer to the Japanese !!! Where did this Ulyukaev come from, what such a strange and incomprehensible story? So why did Putin need to develop a bribe-taker for more than a year? Was there not enough suspicion to simply take off? And why put up with the bribe taker, the criminal next to him, all this time smile at him and give a hand, knowing full well how this will end? Why is this a show? Maybe for us ordinary Russians? Obviously, Ulyukaev was simply framed, it was very simple for Sechin, a close friend of Putin, and at the right moment they dragged him out!
Perhaps such Kremlin ideas distract us from something important? For example, from preparing the transfer of the islands ...

[AID.S]

Quote: Stas157

Obviously, Ulyukaev was simply framed, it was very simple for Sechin, a close friend of Putin, and at the right moment they dragged him out!

Then tell me, why did Sechin need it very simply? Couldn't eat?

[Stas157]

Quote: AID.S

Then tell me, why did Sechin need it very simply? Couldn't eat?

But what about Sechin, in our country, by itself or is it in a close circle? This idea was not for Sechin, but for the Kremlin. And, Sechin was just a participant in this performance. For a long time they did it and at the right moment - they gave it.
Well, what does one need to be smart to expect a bribe from a close friend of Putin? He would have asked Putin for a bribe!

[Giant thought]

Now we’ll guess which of the liberals will be the next, Chubais or Siluanov, or Gref, or maybe some of the new ones, in general, the liberals hunting season is open, catch licenses are issued in the FSB’s own security department.

[Monarchist]

Giant, I'm sorry, but in my opinion you were in a hurry: "... in general, the hunting season for libirasts is open." Perhaps my rank (major) makes me be a pisimist, but I want to say in the words of folk wisdom "we'll wait and see"

[78bor1973]

And where is it that the islands transmit? And what does Ulyukaev have to do with it?

[Stas157]

Quote: 78bor1973

And where is it that the islands transmit? And what does Ulyukaev have to do with it?

Putin directly says that he is preparing to sign a peace treaty with Japan. I hope you do not question this?)) And what do you think the Japanese will just sign a peace treaty for us? If the only thing they demanded for it is the Kuril Islands!
And, Ulyukaev is here in the background, a diversionary maneuver of Putin's intelligence officer. So that the "hamsters" do not interfere with the signing.

[Siberian]

And Japan, what-is Russia dictating something? Why are you afraid you give such a place to Wishlist Japan. The islands retreated to Russia according to the results of World War II. We had to sit on our islands at home, so we would still remain with them.

[rotmistr60]

For example, from preparing the transfer of the islands ...

Isn’t it too early to start making assumptions about the transfer of the islands? Do not run ahead of the engine when you can safely ride in the car.

[Stas157]

Quote: rotmistr60

Isn’t it too early to start making assumptions about the transfer of the islands? Do not run ahead of the engine when you can safely ride in the car.

Not too early! When they sign, it will be too late!
If this hour, while they haven’t signed anything yet, the people will worry, maybe Putin will change his mind! Well, or at least put it off. If you don’t react in any way, and be indignant only about Ulyukaev’s petty bribe-taker, then the authorities will understand that the people will endure the transfer of the islands.

[rotmistr60]

haven’t signed anything yet, people will worry, maybe Putin will change his mind

Have you already sent your proposals to GDP?
Is it really difficult to understand that if a decision is made (although it is very doubtful, the question will probably be about sharing), then the people will just stand by.

[Monarchist]

Stas, what do you specifically suggest: 1) go to Bolotnaya Square 2) to break up Japanese cars in protest, 3, collecting signatures: we don’t need Ulyukaev, but we won’t let the Kuril Islands, 4) get drunk to unconsciousness? Suggest argument?

[Stas157]

Quote: Monarchist

Stas, what do you specifically offer

Wow! Question with a sub-mark?))) Ah, you answer first, if I offer something, will you do it? Here is the same! Why then ask? Obviously not to accept my offer! And why should I offer you something? You have your own head on your shoulders, so you decide! Personally, I decided to publicly throw out my indignation on this issue, while on the VO website, in the form of indignant comments.
If you really care about the fate of the Kuril Islands, you may need to, at first, at least sign a petition in defense of the Kuril Islands on the website http: //petition to the president.rf/

[ava09]

(c) And on what grounds should they be arrested? The results of privatization are not subject to revision. (from)
Reminds: "But who will plant him? This is a monument ..." I wonder who inspired you that you are "bsdl.o"?

[Stas157]

Quote: Region 34

What can they be taken for? For a bribe? It is necessary to prove it. What else can you do?

Putin does not need to prove anything, he can simply be removed from office if confidence is lost. Or that we no longer have honest people? No one to replace?
When necessary, Putin can put him in jail for ten years. And right after the conversation! And, then at any time to release, because "mom is sick"! Do you think one of the oligarchs is Khodorkovsky dishonest? Maybe others just had the sense to walk in front of Putin in formation, and not threaten, as a famous character did!

[Neputin]

Anecdote:
Gene. The prosecutor reports to Putin in the Oboronservis case:
- Vasilyeva pointed to Serdyukov, Serdyukov pointed to Surkov, Surkov to Medvedev, and Medvedev ...
Putin: Enough. Thank. And so it is clear that no one is to blame for anything.

[Siberian]

Yes, we have a lot of honest people, especially at first. They become dishonest when they receive power, money and opportunities. "A thief who cannot steal considers himself honest" - from "The Mafia Manager"

[Neputin]

"There would be a man. There is an article" L. Beria

[34 region]

08.04/XNUMX. Neputin! No need to slander the dog.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Neputin

"There would be a man. There is an article" L. Beria

It came across that the previous arrested minister in our history was precisely Beria L. The rest were all honest. Well, I got a demon, I took it from the state for pocket expenses, and Sechin thought that he had it. Pockets just messed up.
It is significant that the "problem" of the peace treaty with Japan and the "arrest" of Ulyukayev are unconsciously linked. Those. the inviolability of the borders of Russia and the rule of law in relation to top officials now depend not on the Constitution (good or bad) and laws, but on the decisions of the President and his understanding of expediency?
And, the people, wondering: "They will not put them in jail, they will not give them back."

[ohtandur]

Beria did not say that. Delete your comment or apologize

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Region 34

05.44. 210quq! And on what grounds should they be arrested?

for starters, you can remove from public duties, so as not to harm, then at least

[Rostislav]

You don’t even have to arrest. From the power to remove at least already a great achievement will be. By the principle: a mare with a cart ...

[Finches]

The foreign policy strategy involves upholding the interests of not the individuals or groups, but the majority of society, but always through the subjective understanding of the leader and his team, these interests, as well as the availability of the ability to uphold them in the state itself and the necessary moral and business qualities of the head of state! His ability not to succumb to excessive outside influence and remain calm in any environment ... Perhaps Obama, as a good person, but as a leader, too driven and malleable, so to speak, does not have a pivot ... GDP did everything beautifully, his by an invitation to Russia and thanks for the work he emphasized his strength and generosity, and through this, the strength and generosity of Russia!

I felt where the wind was blowing and the Japanese, all the more, after talking with Trump, I became more than kind!

As for Ulyukaev, I have already noted that a fairy tale has its effect quickly, but things are not done quickly! After all, behind this liberal, there are significant forces and it is unnecessary to rush to rake these Augean stables, which the GDP perfectly demonstrates! These "forces" will now begin to make mistakes ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Finches

and while raking these Augean stables it is unnecessary to hurry, which the GDP perfectly demonstrates! These "forces" will now begin to make mistakes ...

Of course, where to rush — the economy is growing, the ruble is strengthening, reserve funds are full, inflation is swaying in place, the state is strictly fulfilling all social obligations — we will tolerate it!

[Finches]

Do you offer to go to Bolotnaya or remember the forerunner of the collapse of the USSR - miners? Take helmets and go pounding on the cobblestones on Vasilyevsky Descent? An example of Ukraine does not teach anything?

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Finches

Do you offer to go to Bolotnaya or remember the forerunner of the collapse of the USSR - miners?

"Here, the master will come ...." Ah, the master is not going.
Decent premieres in scandals of a lower rank resign themselves. We have: "This is beyond my understanding", "This is a sad fact."
Suggest clapping?
Take it easy. "There are few real violent, so there are no leaders ...".

[Finches]

I have expressed my opinion about this many times on the pages of this site, but in brief I will repeat - I largely disagree with the internal policy of the Government, personally do not approve of Medvedev’s activities, somewhere in the GDP, but I don’t see an alternative! And I am extremely negative about all the revolutionary proposals, or I would say more voluntarist! And, if you look at the elections to the State Duma, this is supported by the majority of the people of Russia!

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Finches

An example of Ukraine does not teach anything?

I wonder if the current authorities are teaching something, an example of the Russian Empire

[Finches]

Here I agree with you that the Government and the President, including through understanding the history of 1917, which teaches that the degree of popular discontent cannot be brought to a boiling point, should pay close attention to the domestic economy, taking more decisive steps! But here we must understand that decrees alone cannot break the established system! After all, this anti-people elite rallied back in the early 80s, having arranged, then the collapse of the USSR, starting with the same thing as the liberals in 1917, who created a crisis in economy, or remembering Lenin, "having arranged a brilliantly organized hunger "! But, personally, I am against any personnel leapfrog in the highest echelons of power, since at the present time it will not lead to anything good!

[Sterlya]

Quote: 210ox

A sad fact? Really sad, after all, the rest of the "Gaidar nest chicks" are at large ... and moreover, in power ...

Sad yes. Based on the fact that after long investigations they are acquitted for the lack of corpus delicti.
And the marks on the hands of 2 lam green. it will not matter at the end.

[Bath]

All the islands sailed to our eastern (partners) peasants wiped themselves))))? Yesterday a month ago, we don’t sell territories)))) of course we give them away and quietly quietly the cellist, well, or is there little St. Petersburg comrade there for a hockey player in offshore)))

[Mentat]

Quote: Former Combat

Putin's exposure to the thief - A sad fact! There are still doubters that this whole pack of power is in one world of anthrax ...

Putin regretted that at such a post a man turned out to be a thief, and yet he was trusted.

But what properties of your personality and your character are you expressing, yelling in capital letters all the mura, without understanding, you should ask yourself, standing in front of the mirror.

It will never hurt to add a bit of mind and patience when writing public texts.

[Teberii]

He said goodbye to Obama, invited him to visit. He almost agreed with oil, and he discussed a peace treaty with Japan. Fruitful work.

[210ox]

Obama in Russia is needed only as a skin .. And about the Japanese, they will discuss it in Nagano (if I understand correctly) on the way back home ..

[Alexander 3]

Well, it’s not necessary to remove the skin from Obama, this is our agent (smoked). Thanks to his sanctions in Russia, the import substitution process has begun, they began to do everything on their own.

[Karabin]

Quote: Alexander 3

began to do everything for themselves and themselves.

Oh well. They learned to make impressions especially well. It's time to think about exporting technology.

[Stirbjorn]

Yes, in general, in the store, even simple screwdrivers from China, damn import substitutes

[Monarchist]

Are you a taxodermist i.e. It’s only scarecrow hunts for different skins

[Banishing liberoids]

Not a lot of girls dancing, four in a row !!! How can one understand the Russian islands and the point, then, can we give up two islands? This is not a point, but at least an ellipsis ....

[210ox]

This is from Putin’s statement about the two islands you took?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Let me remind you that in 1956 a corresponding document was signed between the USSR and Japan, where it was assumed that two islands would be returned to Japan. It was not said on what basis, under whose sovereignty the two islands would remain, on what conditions they would be transferred.

Expelling liberoids, read carefully.

[Banishing liberoids]

Andrei Yuryevich, I read the article, for any incomprehension, because it is written in black and white that the starting point is the 1956 treaty, according to which the two islands surrender to the Japs, but the question is not agreed on how exactly all this will happen, but now, see, they agreed. And in figs we have the world in exchange for territories -without peace, we live on and live without a peace treaty, we just do not need to give away the land of Russia.

[demotivator]

Leaving to his seat after a short meeting with Putin, Obama grunted "Okay!" It's not good. For the fact that they are OK, we are quite the opposite. In general, it was an insignificant meeting, but in the media it was presented almost as another loud victory. The optimism of the Japanese prime minister after the meeting with our president is also alarming. It will be a shame if the islands are given back. Why do we even need this notorious peace treaty with Japan? We have already defeated it, Japan signed a surrender and that's it! There should be no more complaints and questions. Now here again, refer to some agreements of Khrushchev in 1956. Why do we need all this? Back in September, the Russian Gazeta.ru wrote

On September 5, at a press conference following the G20 in Hangzhou, Russian President Vladimir Putin said a compromise on the Kuril problem could be reached. The starting point will be the agreement concluded by the USSR and Japan in 1956. It refers to the transfer of the two southern islands of the Kuril ridge to the Japanese side. “However, the agreement did not stipulate much more.

So give the islands, or not? We’ll find out in December.

[Stas157]

Quote: demotivator

So give the islands, or not? We’ll find out in December.

So for any give! Already guessing is not necessary! If you follow the news, then between Russia and Japan there has been bargaining so far. Japan wanted four islands for a piece of peace, and Russia gave a maximum of two. As a result, the Japanese felt that two islands for a piece of paper is also cool!
For tankers, if yapis sign a piece of paper about the world for us, then for any we give back at least some islands, as it was indispensable condition for signing. Well, Putin let slip about two islands.

[34 region]

06.05/1875. Demotivator! In exchange for economic assistance from Japan in the development of the Far East, it is possible that we will give it back. First time or something! Over in 30, two islands gave up, and after XNUMX years, the Japanese cleaned half of Sakhalin. But giving the islands back to the Japanese, we automatically give them back to the USA. After all, Japan is under US control. The islands can be sprinkled and equipped to receive an unsinkable aircraft carrier. Of course, you can make an agreement on the peaceful use of the islands. But only who will let us go if they are equipped at the request of the owners!

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Region 34

Japan's economic assistance to the development of the Far East

a very, very vague concept - the West developed a lot for us in the 90s, in exchange for the surrender of Eastern Europe and the unification of Germany ?!

[V.]

And miracles begin !!! Seeds, kvass and we will see !!!

[dik-nsk]

good photo - Darkest in the center - the ruler of the world)))

[2014ya.ru]

Not so long ago, Putin said - 'we do not trade territories' so let's see if he said the truth or ....... ?!

[Stirbjorn]

And still we will not look at the shelling of civilians in Donbas and there about "they will not get off with tomatoes" the same was the fact that state-owned companies should not be allowed to privatize, but Rosneft took and bought Bashneft, etc., etc. So you shouldn't take everything literally ... Well this is a great chess game as conspiracy theorists like to argue here

[Nix1986]

I will believe in all these statements about the responsibility of a citizen when I see Ryzhiy and Serdyukov felling forests or extracting uranium, and these are just PR words.

[izya top]

there the ebony eared annealed not childishly

US President Barack Obama announced the special role and importance of the United States on the world stage and told how Russia and China differ from them.
“We cannot solve all the problems, but if the United States does not stand for what is right, does not defend it, then everything collapses,” he said following the APEC summit in Peru.

Obama noted that with all due respect to other countries, "the United States is indeed an irreplaceable nation in the world order."

"There are other important countries, China, but China did not work to organize 200 countries to sign the Paris climate agreement, Russia is a very significant military force, but they are not rebuilding Haiti after the hurricane, and we are doing this," Obama said

[demotivator]

Quote: Nix1986

I will believe in all these statements about the responsibility of a citizen when I see Ryzhiy and Serdyukov felling forests or extracting uranium, and these are just PR words.

Yes, that's it! All these tales are about the responsibility and equality of all before the law. In fact, there is nothing like this at all. When "strict Themis" sends a thieving businessman under house arrest, in Russia this means only one thing - he will not sit. Never! He will be forgiven. House arrests in Russia are always for their very own people, when they really are not going to be imprisoned ... Ulyukaev, Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Mamelad from Rusnano, etc. There is one clear criterion that we are facing a serious showdown or a circus. This criterion is a preventive measure. If a citizen is sent to a pre-trial detention center for the duration of the investigation, then this is really serious. If house arrest, then it's usually a circus. Khoroshavin, Belykh, Gaizer, and other officials who are in jail - this does not mean PR, they actually have serious problems. Here, on this occasion, it is possible and necessary to rejoice. But when Vasilieva went under house arrest to her 13-room (!!!) apartment in the center of Moscow and she was allowed to take daily walks for several hours ... Naturally, Vasilyeva never sat down, even in the colony they could not find her, although she had to serve a sentence there. Everything is now in chocolate.
Also, by the way, in politics. The Udaltsians, Tesak, Potkin, Kvachkov, many others ...
For a long time Limonov also served hundreds of national bolsheviks.
Or, for example, Navalny had and still has dozens of initiated cases against him, several court sentences ...
And every time conditional terms, and every time house arrest. Like Vasiliev, Navalny did not sit a day ...
But a lot of PR. And all in order to promote it first under the mayoral election in Moscow, now here again they removed his criminal record. Probably under the presidential election. Ulyukaev, I think, will not receive any real term.
And she won’t even go to jail. This is pure public relations on anti-corruption. Well, at the same time, a signal to some, so as not to burrow too much.

[34 region]

06.47. Demotivator! If you believe this list, then 9,5 years were given for a bribe of 40 million. So for 100 thousand they put stopudovo. But an official can be attributed both abuse of authority and abuse of authority as in the list. It turns out just a temporary suspension from work (from work). So no one had confiscation. Yes! This is not a loan from the bank. There, confiscation for debt repayment is provided.

[Karabin]

It was not said on what basis, under whose sovereignty the two islands would remain, on what conditions they would be transferred.

You will settle this issue, Vladimir Vladimirovich. Judging by the shining face of partner Abo, the world with Japan is closer than ever. And the islands ... yes we have them to a fig.

but I and President Obama noted that we have always respected each other’s positions.

You respectfully complained that American partners do not always meet, President Obama respectfully put you as a threat to peace exactly between Ebola and the terrorists.

Well here to comment, it should ultimately be commented on by law enforcement agencies and the judiciary.

See the Oboronservice case

[Stas157]

Quote: Karabin

Judging by the shining face of partner Abo, the world with Japan is closer than ever.

Judging by the shining face of Abo, he already feels that he has gone down in history as a collector of Japanese lands.
Also, Putin was promised an unprecedented warm welcome at a party in Japan. Perhaps he will later be made an honorary citizen of Nogato, and who knows what the hell is not joking, maybe his last days after the presidency, Putin will live in Japan, just like our other president in Germany, who united German lands.

[Bath]

It also seems to me that Vova-san will not be a stranger in Japan

[YurokR]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

The sad fact is that Koch, Gref, Chubais, Vasiliev, Siluans and a hedgehog with them are free ...

It is very strange that so few people bet + After all, the fact that the law is not the same for everyone is really VERY sad and terrible. And this phenomenon is found everywhere, in any region and in any city.

[Stas157]

Quote from rudolf

The Japanese media are vigorously discussing that two islands are just the first step. A peace treaty is signed, two islands are transferred, and the decision of the fate of the others is postponed for some distant time.

The Japanese seemed to have read my early comments on October 17 under the article "The Japanese began to argue with themselves about the Southern Kuriles," I wrote about this!

We are still saved only by the fact that the Japanese are too categorical in their requests, completely rudely demand everything at once! Accordingly, they go with a fig in your pocket!
Forgotten the American principle of "salami", the sausage is cut into small pieces, and in the end it will be completely sliced. Now, if the Japanese had taken the previously proposed two islands, then nothing would have hurt to demand further the other two!

[Cat man null]

Quote from rudolf

The Japanese media are vigorously discussing that two islands are just the first step. A peace treaty is signed, two islands are transferred, and the decision of the fate of the others is postponed for some distant time. That is, Japan does not give up its claims and this will be documented

- tell me, please, where do you see the intention to "convey" something from the words of VVP?

... with regard to the Kuril Islands - this is the result of World War II, and we believe that today it is a sovereign Russian territory enshrined in international documents.
... in 1956, a corresponding document was signed between the USSR and Japan, where two islands were supposed to be returned to Japan. It was not said on what basis, under whose sovereignty the two islands would remainon what conditions they will be transferred

- it is said that now our islands. Legally
- it is said that the "document of the 56th year", in general, does not oblige anyone to anything

What made you so upset ... in what was said? If only this:

Quote from rudolf

... the Japanese prime minister has such a happy face

- well, Duc ... as they say, "the crap gets richer with dumkoy"

[Cat man null]

Quote from rudolf

Chatterbox accustomed to evaluate actions, not words

- If for you VVP is a "chatterbox", then you are probably ... just a lump. A seasoned, so to speak, human being (who, by the way, said, and about whom - don't you remember?)
- and if you have all the problems at the level

Quote from rudolf

coffee in the morning is over

- then you can only envy

[jetfors_84]

They also promised us verbally and not to promote NATO, and much more. Since there are no signed documents, there is nothing to discuss here.

[sergo1914]

It seemed to me alone that Abamka was offered an apartment in Grozny?

[jovanni]

"... After that, the President noted that the law should be obeyed by every citizen of Russia, regardless of his official position ..."

Well yes. Every citizen must comply with the law. And law enforcement agencies to fulfill their duties. Also, regardless of the official position of this same citizen. And do not wait for the go-ahead of the highest hand. Only then will everything move off the ground ...

[OLD FART]

Russia is isolated, the economy is torn to shreds ...? Eh Obama naive African boy! In politics, the main thing is "to be able to take a blow." ... This is the main thing and, in principle, in everything it is! But then ... Goodbye obamych, we will remember you, thank you for everything that you "did" to raise our self-awareness and pride in Russia!

[ghby]

About the islands.
Japan considers the four islands Iturup, Shikotan, Kunashir and Habomai as disputed. In 1956, a preliminary agreement was reached on the transfer of Shikotan Island and Habomai Island to Japan about the Kunashir and Iturup Islands, there was nothing in the agreement. In essence, if you look at the map of the location of these islands, then the key ones are precisely Kunashir and Iturup. The Shikotan and Habomai Islands are parallel to the Kunashir Island from the Pacific Ocean and do not affect the "status" of the inland Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
By the way, if you believe Wikipedia, then the Japanese would sign an agreement if it were not for the Americans, who need just Kunashir and Iturup.

[Mikhail3]

But I would only like to say that we will continue to carry out work related to the fact that we will be intolerant of any manifestations of this kind.

In the style of GDP. Quiet, sweet, and so that some have an instantly lowered uterus. The following is said - hang yourself guys! The incident is not some kind of accident, we will continue to choke you. Oh, I hope ...

[Mikhail3]

Quote: Jovanni

"... After that, the President noted that the law should be obeyed by every citizen of Russia, regardless of his official position ..."

Well yes. Every citizen must comply with the law. And law enforcement agencies to fulfill their duties. Also, regardless of the official position of this same citizen. And do not wait for the go-ahead of the highest hand. Only then will everything move off the ground ...

You know ... I don’t agree!
I don’t agree with equality before the law! I will explain. At posts like Ulyukaevsky there should be no equality. What are the standard procedures when an object is a minister? Upon appointment to the posts of this level, a special procedure must apply - if certain information is received, the highest official of the state should have the right to put the minister to the wall. No trial. Purely in my opinion. I do not like? Do not go into the ministers!
In general, an appointment to a government post would be good to accompany with the sum somewhere in 10 of green lemons for one five-year period. Then stop all sorts of salaries, firms and other income. The man left to SERVE. Here is the money for a decent security. A little ruble formed on top - confiscation to a bare ass! Strongly cast off - the wall.
You feel the strength to work like this - the state and people will benefit. You don’t feel it, you want legal protection as a citizen, so just don’t poke your nose there. It would be nice to do so. Sorry unreal ...

[akribos]

Began. Norway gave a piece, China gave, the USA gave a piece of the sea, now the Japanese. It is watered with Russian blood, throughout Europe, for which he ... is not clear. They gave everything away. Let’s immediately join Iceland, there are the largest unemployment benefits, although people will benefit. If the branches are to give, I suggest smart people from Russia to the islands to re-register and become Japanese, it will be better if they distribute our land. And so that Germany lifts the sanctions, we will give it to the Kaliningrad region, I congratulate the residents of Kaliningrad. Varyo. Sincerely.

[Bath]

Kaliningrad region will go next)))) proved by Zanussey)))

[Mentat]

Quote: Stas157

Well, what is preparing for the transfer of a pair of islands to Yap? The collector of Russian lands decided to throw the Russian zemlyatse to American puppets in exchange for a declaration of peace? Good mood to you all!

And to you modern antipsychotics. You still haven’t fallen under the table in a throat attack? Take care of yourself, do not get excited.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mentat

And to you modern antipsychotics. You still haven’t fallen under the table in a throat attack? Take care of yourself, do not get excited.

Thanks for the touching care of me! And, on the topic, that is, what? You do not hesitate, lay out considerations if you do not agree with what. And then they gave me an assessment, but according to the news - not.

[Former battalion commander]

Putin's exposure to the thief - A sad fact! There are still doubters that this whole pack of power is in one world of anthrax ...

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Former Combat

Putin's exposure to the thief - A sad fact! There are still doubters that this whole pack of power is in one world of anthrax ...

I think he meant taking a bribe by the minister. But the revelation of the minister-bribe-taker is a positive fact, And he correctly said everything about the business climate.

[31R-US]

Vladimir Vladimirovich is in the middle in the photo, but it is worth a lot.

[Mentat]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: demotivator

So give the islands, or not? We’ll find out in December.

So for any give! Already guessing is not necessary! If you follow the news, then between Russia and Japan there has been bargaining so far. Japan wanted four islands for a piece of peace, and Russia gave a maximum of two. As a result, the Japanese felt that two islands for a piece of paper is also cool!
For tankers, if yapis sign a piece of paper about the world for us, then for any we give back at least some islands, as it was indispensable condition for signing. Well, Putin let slip about two islands.

A bunch of lies, distortions, screeching. You yourself are pleased to realize that you are a hysteroid?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Mentat

A bunch of lies, juggling, screeching

- this is typical for Stas157

Quote: Mentat

You yourself are pleased to realize that you are a hysteroid?

- This is not a hysteroid. People stupidly troll
- I drove it back on the old version of the site, and quite successfully. When the guy realized that he would feel bad right now, he hid from me in an emergency
- now there is no emergency, but there are no "minuses" either. Chel has grown bolder and is now walking ... fearlessly ... democracy and pluralism in VO, hedgehog that copper

[Volzhanin]

Who would have thought that a surname, in general, a very worthy person (in my humble opinion) would turn into a common name for the most devastating enemies of a Russian person!
It's a pity. Gaidar’s creativity is very positive, which cannot be said about his filthy and vile descendants.