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Psevdorevolyutsiya evobezumiya: three years later

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Psevdorevolyutsiya evobezumiya: three years later



Exactly three years ago, the so-called Euromaidan began in Kiev, which not only completely changed Ukraine, but also greatly influenced the situation in the world. As a result of this event, the confrontation between the West and Russia sharply escalated. It would be naive to believe that only the “poor students” who came to the square could do this, the very ones who “onizhedeti” are “innocent victims of the regime” (as the Ukrainian authorities are trying to present today). Especially because This Maidan was not the first link in the chain of "color revolutions", after which there were always disastrous consequences.

Practice shows that at the present time Velvet revolutions do not flare up by themselves. For many days of standing on squares, resources are needed that the masses themselves do not have. Under normal conditions, people need to go to work, something to feed their families. And without backstage arrangements of the organizers of the Maidan with people associated with the government, such an action will sooner or later be dispersed by the authorities. Unless in this way, the people themselves can shift the very rotten, completely exhausted power. What power Viktor Yanukovych still was not.

Victoria Nuland, who came to Kiev in those days and treated Euromaidan participants with cookies, is only the visible part of the iceberg. Her crowd will not be full of treats from a bag. It will not be possible to feed such a crowd with the help of “people's offerings” (as supporters of the “revolution of hydration” try to push us). But you also need to make a lot of posters, flyers, flags, banners ... Sooner or later, after such "revolutions", information about how much money was invested by Western (especially American) intelligence services in such projects emerges. But the main - it's not just about cash, but also about the organizational assistance of the opposition, as well as about external pressure on the authorities, about backstage negotiations with its individual representatives who are inclined to betrayal ... At the right time, the scene should appear and weapon.

Without all these factors, no Maidan fails, and the crowd remains a crowd, even if she has something to feed on and she is stuffed with campaign materials printed for a good deal of money. And the Maidan fools for a long time continue to believe: lo, we went out, we overthrew, we “overcame”.

And even galloping inflation, huge bills for a communal flat, switching off heating and everything else after three years, do not sober everyone. But even in every Ukrainian family, where a son is growing up, there is a threat that the guy will be sent to the so-called "ATO", from where he risks returning as 200.

However, the 21 day of November is celebrated in Ukraine as a big holiday: “Day of dignity and freedom”. Dignity is, therefore, to accept those notorious cookies and beg for help from Europe. And freedom is when the number of absurd prohibitions grows every day: then you cannot watch certain TV channels, then listen to the artists - “Putin's spies”, then - speak in any other language besides Mova ... Not to mention that Ukrainian prisons are overcrowded with political prisoners accused of “separatism”, “high treason”, etc.

Three years ago, the crowd came to Euromaidan under the influence of certain propaganda: as if the rapprochement with Europe was so close, but so-and-so Yanukovych at the last moment refused to sign an agreement on European integration. This, of course, is the fault of Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych himself, and people from his entourage who had previously tried to “sit on two chairs”: the eastern electorate was promised rapprochement with Russia, and the western electorate was this very European integration. Then suddenly the authorities began to declare that European integration is the best thing that could happen to Ukraine. But at the last moment, they still bothered to carefully read what they were going to sign: there was no question of any equal cooperation with Europe.

But without financial investments in the opposition, without external pressure on Yanukovych, without those people who suddenly began to turn away sharply from him, the dreams of a part of the population about “entering Europe” would have remained dreams., and dissatisfaction with the refusal to sign the agreement would manifest itself, perhaps, in several meetings.

Three years later, the fanfare rings are not at all as joyful as the Maidan leaders would like. Psevdoprezident Petro Poroshenko, who came to power as a result of a coup, forced in his address on the occasion of the so-called. “Day of dignity and freedom” to apologize for the unpopular reforms that have reduced the standard of living. "Important for us ... remains the support of the International Monetary Fund. And the Foundation never prescribes sweet drugs. Therefore, I understand that we have unwittingly hurt millions of families. For it is not a sin to apologize"He admitted. Yeah, it was not so sweet to “get close to Europe” - instead of chocolates, with which Poroshenko fed the Ukrainians for a long time, they give out very bitter pills.

Only Who will apologize for the suffering caused by this Maidan regime to the residents of Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics? People who had no choice but to rebel against the coup and pay a terrible price for it?

And from Donbass continue to come scary news.

On November 17, Ukrainian punishers bombarded hospital number XXUMX in Donetsk. This is a long-suffering hospital located in the village of Oktyabrsky, not far from the Donetsk airport area. She and so had to be repaired after numerous "acts of democratization", but despite this, she continues to work - someone has to provide medical care to people who actually have to live on the front line. Now in the building once again you need to change the glass. Only by luck no one was hurt.

The West, of course, will not scold Poroshenko’s regime: these are not the “Russian bombings of Aleppo hospitals” that were invented, but the real consequences of the “revolution of hydration”. A November 19 in Gorlovka on the outskirts of the village of Zaitsevo a Ukrainian civilian killed a civilian ...

So, three years later, the pseudo-revolution of evobezumiya continues to demand new and new human sacrifices.
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  1. GOGENATOR
    GOGENATOR 21 November 2016 15: 06
    +2
    The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 21 November 2016 15: 09
      +38
      Quote: GOGENATOR
      The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.

      A democratic government is created through elections, not a coup d'etat!
      1. GOGENATOR
        GOGENATOR 21 November 2016 15: 18
        +3
        In a game where there is originally a sharpie not to win!
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 21 November 2016 15: 25
          +20
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          In a game where there is originally a sharpie not to win!

          Well, there was nothing to sit down to play with a sharpie (that is, to participate in a coup in favor of crooks)!
          1. GOGENATOR
            GOGENATOR 21 November 2016 15: 33
            0
            Then this is a hopeless situation. And on the other side of the oligarchs, and on this side are also oligarchs.
            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 21 November 2016 16: 41
              +16
              Well, let a bullet in your forehead. What others should beckon with this temptation.

              Do you want to broadcast on behalf of the people? shoot yourself. It will be better for everyone

              For me, too, Svanidze and Gozman love to rant about the central heating

              Have a coup in your hut - let your wife dance with your neighbor. And for the country you should not write

              Almost all the people wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.


              I wish the one who wanted - for twenty more years to live in the same gamna - where they drove themselves

              1. ammunition
                ammunition 21 November 2016 19: 57
                +14
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                Beg. Return the old version of the site. Well, as an application. For those who need it.
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                Now I am in great anger .. and ready to break my whole face .. those who made this hateful .. new version.
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                Because it is impossible to find an article and comment !. Article about the cart. From the fox - an article on the site. I go in with Chrome, where my password is in my memory to leave a comment - and there is no article. and impossible to find. the search engine does not work. Well, have you specifically made such a vile thing? For bullying.
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                Are you people or ... In the book, the pages go one by one. 1,2,3 .. and rightly so. And you have a complete mess. All pages are messed up !!! after 500 comes 7, then 34 then 298 then 120.
                Return the old version of the site !! How is it done on rambler.
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                With all my might I restrain fierce abuse.
                1. Ragoz
                  Ragoz 21 November 2016 20: 44
                  +5
                  Ammunition!
                  I fully support, it was not the VO site, but some kind of crap
            2. renics
              renics 21 November 2016 21: 16
              +3
              If, as you put it in the style of a game, then in this case there is a shorter answer to the reasons for the Maidan. They placed a bet on the wrong players and lost, or they bet on the wrong number 16 in a casino.
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 21 November 2016 17: 30
        +16
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: GOGENATOR
        The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.

        A democratic government is created through elections, not a coup d'etat!

        Here Oliver Stone shows very correctly in his film "Ukraine on Fire".
        1. renics
          renics 21 November 2016 21: 21
          +3
          This film was directed by an American of Ukrainian descent Igor Laputyonok, and Oliver Stone acted as a producer. This indicates how much the Western press did not try to fool their citizens with fictitious events, but they only believed in it.
    2. Timmy
      Timmy 21 November 2016 15: 18
      +26
      This is an attempt more reminiscent of an attempt by a gay couple to have a baby. The more they try, the more the ass hurts.
      1. GOGENATOR
        GOGENATOR 21 November 2016 15: 22
        0
        Almost all the people wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 21 November 2016 15: 36
          +30
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          Almost all the people wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.

          Yanukovych had to sit on the golden loaf for several months and he would fly out of the presidency without any jumps and jumps on the Maidan, just some oligarchs pushed other oligarchs away from the feeder, killing tens of thousands of people at the same time.
        2. avg-mgn
          avg-mgn 21 November 2016 17: 29
          +14
          Quote: GOGENATOR

          Almost all the people wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.
          Okay, like, overthrown, then what? Who or what did not suit you - personally Yanukovych, or a mediocre government? There is no Yanukovych, there is no once prosperous state, so why almost all people wanted to?
        3. avt
          avt 21 November 2016 17: 55
          +11
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          Almost all the people wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.

          fool He himself considered mother klyanus! ? wassat Or is it that there are so few people in Ukraine - all fit in one square in Kiev?
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          Then this is a hopeless situation.

          Yes, you have white gondonnozhovtoblakitnyhs always and everywhere, there is only an entrance and that is not the right one, and the main thing is that you are never to blame for anything.
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          In a game where there is originally a sharpie not to win!

          You are not like that - life is like that.
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government
          And then
          Quote: ntimmy
          This is an attempt more reminiscent of an attempt by a gay couple to have a baby. The more they try, the more the ass hurts.
        4. APASUS
          APASUS 21 November 2016 18: 01
          +17
          Quote: GOGENATOR
          Almost all the people wanted to overthrow Yanukovych.

          People? C'mon, the people supported the overthrow, and other representatives of the criminal financial groups wanted to overthrow him, which in fact did
        5. Vasyatkin
          Vasyatkin 22 November 2016 07: 19
          +4
          My relatives live in Kharkov. Youngsters went to both Maidans, they paid not badly for participating in these events .... so this is how "all the people" wanted to slash the babosiks for a freebie, and then whatever happens
      2. Adai_78
        Adai_78 22 November 2016 07: 39
        +1
        Good statement by Rostislav Ishchenko!
    3. FREGATEN
      FREGATEN 21 November 2016 15: 22
      +10
      Plus, accidentally you ...... A putsch .. and in all the countries supported by Western democracy is not democratic .. and certainly not an attempt to create a democratic government ....
    4. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 21 November 2016 15: 23
      +23
      This is what they tell you in Kazakhstan. And in our Ukraine only those with a saucepan on their heads believe in this.
      Do not believe these tales. Everything that happened in Ukraine is pure geopolitics, on which the Ukrainian oligarchs wanted to make a gesheft. I myself was surprised at how naive our oligarchs are: they themselves financed their ruin and the collapse of the country in which they were "kings". Well, not stupid people? ...
      1. GOGENATOR
        GOGENATOR 21 November 2016 15: 26
        +3
        I don’t deny that the same oligarchs captured all the same. But part of the people believed and was deceived.
        1. MSL
          MSL 21 November 2016 15: 59
          +13
          Just buzzed, not knowing what they were doing? I wanted a freebie to Europe and lace panties, but what the country would be a fig did not think. There were no stupid fools on the Maidan. There were just fools, they were bought, there were cattle.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 21 November 2016 16: 07
          +9
          The most active part of the revolutionaries is
          1. young people who are easily guided by slogans and manipulated by the type of fan movements (herd instinct - do what I want - there aren’t any guilty parties).
          2. people who believe everything that they say on TV, pensioners and all sorts of rogues for small pennies, ready to stand on the demonstrations of absolutely any.
          3. propaganda groups with specific tasks - they work for money, have their own cover, up to military units.
          This is the bulk, not counting customers and individual teams performing special tasks such as creating panic at the right time, sacrifices (shooting often from both sides to create heat).
          Here the first 3 points is probably 5-7 percent of the population of Kiev, the rest of the people worked or stupidly watched TV and listened to the radio, there was no nationwide rise and a beating of the oligarchs, as well as dispossession of money after the 17th. So the people have nothing to do with it, some Jews threw other Jews, but they miscalculated a little.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 21 November 2016 18: 21
            +4
            Quote: Corsair
            1. young people who are easily guided by slogans and manipulated by the type of fan movements (herd instinct - do what I want - there aren’t any guilty parties).
            2. people who believe everything that they say on TV, pensioners and all sorts of rogues for small pennies, ready to stand on the demonstrations of absolutely any.
            3. campaign groups with specific tasks - work for money, have their own cover, up to military units

            Come on, have you already forgotten how Yatsenyuk promised everyone happiness? Promised everyone
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 21 November 2016 19: 31
              +5
              Quote: APASUS
              Come on, have you already forgotten how Yatsenyuk promised everyone happiness? Promised everyone


              Well, the rabbit promised a lot of things. He promised that NATO would not abandon the former Ukraine, protect and arm. But no.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 21 November 2016 19: 56
                0
                Quote: Lelek
                Well, the rabbit promised a lot of things. He promised that NATO would not abandon the former Ukraine, protect and arm. But no.

                But unfortunately, it was salaries and pensions that were the main argument, it was the social package that played the main role. Ukraine will be in NATO, then this was the second time.
    5. elenagromova
      21 November 2016 16: 00
      +6
      In 2004, they stepped on a rake. Wanted to repeat?
      1. izya top
        izya top 21 November 2016 20: 22
        +6
        Quote: elenagromova
        In 2004, they stepped on a rake. Wanted to repeat?

    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 November 2016 16: 22
      +11
      Quote: GOGENATOR
      Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government

      They did not try anything. They don’t even try to throw off the junta strangling them now. They just jumped. That's all request
    7. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 21 November 2016 17: 19
      +8
      Quote: GOGENATOR
      The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.

      Other corrupt officials? A masterpiece definition. For me, there is more "old rake".
    8. byxarik1
      byxarik1 21 November 2016 18: 22
      +6
      Democracy is when blood is flowing in a river, when another nation is ruining its country to please the political and financial interests of the United States? Do I understand correctly?
    9. Berkut752
      Berkut752 22 November 2016 01: 13
      +4
      Quote: GOGENATOR
      The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.

      How old are you ?, did you study at school ?.
      Socrates said that there are two infinities - the cosmos and the human foolishness.
      “The idealists begin the revolution, make the romantics, and the villains use the fruits”?
      Ukraine was born by accident, died stupidly.
    10. Vasyatkin
      Vasyatkin 22 November 2016 07: 21
      +3
      Do not you think that since 1991 they have been trying to create something ... only for some reason, all creation goes through ...
    11. Fitter65
      Fitter65 22 November 2016 13: 31
      +2
      [/ quote] [quote = GOGENATOR] Although Ukrainians tried to create a democratic government, other corrupt officials used their revolution.

      I like to listen to Ukrainians on various shows, such as "Vremya Pokazhet" and the like. The Ukrainians, foaming at the mouth, prove on the air of RUSSIAN TV channels how they began to live freely and democratically. Proving to us that we have not remained free slaves. Only here I am. and did not hear on which channel of UkrTV, a Russian citizen can speak with his point of view on this problem. And if you take into account that the Russian channels, on which freely Ukrainian journalists and political scientists say what they want, are prohibited in Ukraine, then the question arises as to who is free and Is it those who, for the sake of lace panties and visa-free travel to the EU, destroyed their country? Yes, I really need such freedom ...
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 November 2016 15: 26
    +20
    How could such a thing have happened? For 2 years, to scoff an entire nation and make it ride the whole world for fun, to put pans on its heads ... but in Ukraine there are many people with Soviet education, their views, beliefs ...
    A bunch of finished fascists keeps 40 in awe of millions of people ... resembles a verse about Cockroach ....
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 16: 16
      +3
      But tell me yourself how it happened that hysteria is growing before the election (any): vote for ...
      How is it that, having numerous family ties at the level of husband \ brother \ sister \ aunt \ uncle between Russia and Ukraine, we now see enemies in each other?
      These are all technologies for manipulating consciousness, my friend. And they are applied both there and here, no matter who says it.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 November 2016 16: 20
        +7
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        These are all technologies for manipulating consciousness, my friend.

        You won’t explain everything by elections alone ... 25 years rosin’s brains for them ... training on them like on some rabbits.
        But I think the Slavic spirit will overcome this disease ... however it may be, the Slavs' brains are not formatted like the Europeans. Another question is when this will happen.
        1. Skeptic Self-Taught
          Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 16: 53
          +5
          If you do not resist, then never. If we do not remove the reasons, we will fight the consequences. And, believe me, the embroidered and painted mittens from old jeans that Ukrainian women send to the "ATO zone" will seem childish to us.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 21 November 2016 19: 37
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          . whatever it was, but the Slavs brains are not formatted, like the Europeans


          hi, Andrew.
          You are right, tovarisch. We - the Slavs "FSUs ...". Ukraine is nothing, "Zhigulevskoe" in good company is everything.
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 21 November 2016 16: 20
        +5
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        How is it that having numerous family ties at the level of husband \ brother \ sister \ aunt \ uncle between Russia and Ukraine Do we see enemies in each other now?

        - false thesisIMHO
        - Ukrainians, yes, they "see"
        - by the way, not all Ukrainians "see", there is a certain percentage of quite adequate
        - Russians for the most part "do not see". As in that joke about "the Russian Federation did not appear in the war" request
        1. Skeptic Self-Taught
          Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 16: 51
          +1
          And I didn’t write anywhere that consciousness manipulation technologies are effective for the entire population of 100%.
          Articles that allegedly show or call for a laugh at the pan-and-panheads have the same focus - the manipulation of consciousness, only ours. AND:
          1. APU is perceived as enemies, even if one or another fighter serves as a gate guard in a unit somewhere near Odessa.
          2. Anyone who disagrees by 85% with our (Russian) point of view is perceived as a "maydaun", at least, which should be treated. The degree of treatment is up to life-giving efthanasia.
          3. Our attention is clearly inadequate on the other side - for what purpose? Why do not give the word sane? Are there such people there? So make enemies intentionally. By the way, Sharia is not an example.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 21 November 2016 17: 02
            +4
            Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
            I haven’t written anywhere that consciousness manipulation technologies are effective for the entire population of 100%

            - but nowhere else have they said the opposite:
            Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
            ... we see now in each other enemies

            - >>
            1. Not everyone, believe me.
            2. Again - not all dissenters are perceived as such. And again - not by all.
            3. I do not know what "they offer you".

            Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
            So make enemies intentionally

            - in the Russians they are envious of Ukrainians, do you mean? Well what to say ...
            - the absolute majority of those whom I know are absolutely exactly in this Ukraine ... I personally - also do not care, they’ll jump to themselves.

            Like this ...

            PS: I repeat: in the word "euthanasia" there are the letters "Fe"
            1. Skeptic Self-Taught
              Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 17: 19
              +1
              If you don’t care, do they jump and don’t - what do you do in the discussion of Ukrainian reality? :) then it’s not a pifog? :)
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 21 November 2016 17: 21
                +1
                Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
                means not pythogue?

                - not a pifog, not a pifog ...
                - I am amused by some "debaters", no more
                - I think the "promblema" itself is uninteresting ... and in many respects far-fetched.

                I get it? wink
          2. your1970
            your1970 21 November 2016 18: 36
            +5
            1) APU is perceived as enemies, even if one or another fighter serves as a gate guard in a unit somewhere near Odessa. - any SS sheep (even if he was a simple official - who personally didn’t kill / hang / burn people, but simply sat and wrote reports / certificates / circulars ...) anyway, by the decision of Nuremberg, he was a criminal ...
            I do not want to draw any analogies, but all of them should think about it, especially those who from the "Grad" hit populated areas
            1. Skeptic Self-Taught
              Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 18: 47
              +2
              Lord ... What does the SS have to do with it?
              I explain. The APU is an army, like any country. The question is that the APU is used for the so-called. ATO, which automatically turns the belligerents into criminals. But look: a young boy who “didn’t smell life”, who is 18 years old, who is being drafted into the army (in Ukraine), whose brains have been vacuumed, washed, processed - he ended up serving somewhere far from the place where they shoot. So, yesterday he was in the category "amenable to re-education", but today - everything? 100% enemy?
              Those who hit people from the city - the question is not even there.
              But imagine. The DLNR troops marched in a victorious march to Lviv. They started an international court, local courts and so on. With that guy I described above - what should I do with him?
              And with a grandmother who believes everything they say on TV? Is she an enemy too? What to do with her?
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 21 November 2016 19: 06
                +6
                grandmother let sew socks with footcloths for BCH. A grandson saw knots 10 years

                Not well, but sho. Humanely.

                Grandma and granddaughter were not opposed when Tymoshenko was broadcasting about a nuclear club in Russia.

                The granddaughter did not go look for an automatic machine to shoot her, but went to the APU. So I agree with the general trend.

                As far as I understand, running away from the unit is not a problem at all against the backdrop of hell that is happening in that country.

                In any case, you can always say that he went for vodka - there it’s in the order of things

                in general, I’m sure - whoever wants to get off this war will find 1000 ways - and whoever is not bad - he will find 1000 reasons and excuses

                1. Skeptic Self-Taught
                  Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 20: 49
                  +3
                  St. Petrov.
                  Personally, I have a negative for you after discussing the topic of abortion. But try to answer.
                  You write. that the grandmother did not go against and so on.
                  Let me give you a real life example. I took my grandmother out of Ukraine back in 1996. We were unable to obtain Russian citizenship for her, until her death. So she died as a citizen of Ukraine, although she was born in Kostroma. Although I myself, my parents are citizens of Russia, and have been living in Moscow since 1974. I am writing for a year so that there would be no thoughts about "settling in and so on" in the 90s ... My grandmother. the kingdom of Heaven to her. died in 2004 at the age of 80. So that's it. She has a Soviet education, she is a home front worker, she raised a daughter, my mother, after the war. And she BELIEVED everything that was said on the first channel of the TV. Because she is so used to it - the first channel is state.
                  I am writing all this for that. that there are millions of such grandmothers. And they also believe everything they say on TV.
                  So why does a granddaughter owe a grandmother from a machine gun?
                  And on the question "went there for vodka" ...
                  Watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7nkLmE3JSw
                  You see, everything is badly and badly started there ... They have very few ways to get other, our information. To paraphrase Kennedy: "We lost Ukraine at school."
              2. your1970
                your1970 21 November 2016 19: 27
                +4
                "With that guy I described above - what to do with him?" - "all the same by the decision of Nuremberg - a criminal ...".
                And note - to flee to Russia to earn money from 404 country all this time -it is elementary, it’s not to flee from the Reich with closed borders ....
                I know a few who left so as not to get into the "waves" of mobilization. So who DID NOT WANT shoot at civilians - they found a way to avoid this.
                "Who wants, he does, who does not want, he is looking for an excuse" © so my father said
                1. Skeptic Self-Taught
                  Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 20: 39
                  +3
                  your1970
                  You see ... the criminal. You say that he is a criminal. And that they will judge him. Okay, you don’t talk about the court, but you mean.
                  And he does not want to be tried. What should he do? He wants to quietly, stupidly, drum out (how many people are currently serving there) his term and return to civilian life. He does not want to in the ATO ...
                  And to work in Russia. Are they welcome here? Will he find a job here? So it turns out that "the peasant has nowhere to go" ... On the one hand, he does not want to be a murderer, and on the other hand, you scare him with the court ...
                  In fact, you are cornering him and leaving no choice. You can not do it this way.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 21 November 2016 21: 01
                    +1
                    but no one promised - that will be easy ....
                    Only there is always a choice, either in the ATO or in the Russian Federation / EU to earn money (moreover, at least a million Ukrainian citizens manage to find work in the Russian Federation). And there (in the ATO) - and there (RF / EU) you can quietly sit as a watchman at the gate (as you write). The problem for him, a specific person in the sensation THEN — years of commercials in five to ten ... and it can even be (yes !! maybe it’s, conscience is called), regardless of whether the war criminals will be judged or not ..
                    a feature of Slavs in general is the absence of the PRIMATE of power — you never know what the power said !!!
                    The Germans, for example, were in a more advantageous situation after WWII - the Führer ordered it to be fast! We had to obey!
                    And we have been digging for 70 years - Stalin made the right or wrong decisions .. And this feature of psychology will still play its ....
                    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
                      Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 21: 08
                      +1
                      I personally saw how two "garny lads" who came to work in the Russian Federation from the next "grave" tried to provoke a conflict. Those. having arrived here, the thoughts remained the same, they were there. Here they "sat" here in the Russian Federation ATO, the war, the next Maidans ...
                      When you come back, do you think they will change their point of view? Or will they consider how smart they are and how hot everyone is?
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 21 November 2016 21: 16
                        +1
                        for the residents of Donbass, it is better that they were "here" ...
                        and by the way, what will they influence if they don’t change their point of view?

                        We lost Ukraine, simply because we already have children from those who were born in 1991, who did NOT find the USSR. And let's understand this, yes, normal relations are possible, but what was happening during the USSR cannot be returned ...
    2. Sharapov
      Sharapov 21 November 2016 16: 22
      +10
      Quote: NEXUS
      ? For 2 years, sootse an entire nation and make it ride

      Yes, not at all in 2 years. I went there regularly to my relatives - in front of my eyes since 2000, so smoothly, unhurriedly, the media and dignitaries of Ukrainians led the Ukrainians to the fact that they are a super nation that has suffered from Russia, and they have no way with Russians.
    3. Geronimo73
      Geronimo73 21 November 2016 17: 46
      +3
      not two years. it began to rot and bloom from the late 80s ....
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 November 2016 20: 56
        +1
        And in places from the 39th
    4. avt
      avt 21 November 2016 18: 16
      +9
      Quote: NEXUS
      For 2 years, so scribble an entire nation and make it ride for fun to the whole world, put pans on their heads ... but in Ukraine there are a lot of people with Soviet education, their views, beliefs ...

      request Come on ... we haven't forgotten ours - Boris! Fight! "And as practice shows and what I was personally convinced of some of my acquaintances back in the 90s, higher education, even Soviet education, does not save you from getting into a sect. Even then, before the Maidan, I wrote here on the site - Kiev is mentally ill city! Then some of those who disappeared from the site objected and even minus me. bully However, there was no such riot of sects even in the early 90s in Moscow! That there is only, "the embassy of God on earth" from a Nigerian and his protégé to the mayor, "Lenya the cosmonaut" I think. And Masha Tsvigun with Krivonogov? For the more "advanced" and in power, they brought in different "Templars" and other "hospitallers", and the coolest thing - AT THE SAME EXPENSE !!! So there really was no need to sow or plow fools - there were enough It is only necessary to collect them with slogans and amphitamines on the square from field kitchens to feed them. That is actually done. Technologically, the costs are small, and the gesheft is savory - the whole country fell for cutting carcasses.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 November 2016 19: 00
        +5
        Quote: avt
        such a revelry of sects was not even at the beginning of the 90's in Moscow!

        Reminded. Somehow, in the year 91, we went to Moscow for a walk, saw the Krishnas in these white sheets, they neighed for a long time. In vain, probably.
        1. avt
          avt 21 November 2016 19: 12
          +4
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          , saw the Krishnas in these white sheets, neighing for a long time.

          Oranges.
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          In vain, probably.

          Yes . By the way, this is, by the way, still underground, a very tough totalitarian sect! Moreover, the Indian adherents of Krishna themselves do not give a penny to all foreigners. Those who fall into this sect are immediately cut off from the old way of life and social circle, it is monitored cruelly, precisely cruelly. With their mantras, they bring the adept to the state of trance is elementary - the adept CAM does everything, well, if the wrangling is not going fast enough - chemistry is given with "ritual" food.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 21 November 2016 19: 23
            +4
            Quote: avt
            Oranges.

            I probably don’t remember exactly the first and last time I saw them.
            Quote: avt
            With their mantras they bring the adherent to a state of trance elementary

            We walked along the Arbat, something slowly howled, and tapped the tambourines.
            1. avt
              avt 21 November 2016 19: 52
              +3
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              We walked along the Arbat, something slowly howled, and tapped the tambourines.

              Classics of organoleptics, without antipsychotics - bells, and quite unpleasant - sharp so that clients are not distracted by outside sounds, a rhythm is set and the main thing is not to let go for a long time, then the client himself, as part of a group, and moving in the rhythm set by these bells, performs again monotonous movements in the composition of the flock and repeat in chorus a simple, but from this rather effective mantra - a sound series. Specifically for these sectarians - "Hari krishna, hare rama, hare hare" Moreover, given that the subject is really SELF-type of phrase magic, this choral singing, combined with a general dance, introduces them into a trance and consciousness is no worse than during the session But without a chance to return at the command of the hypnotist. To return such an adept who has left reality by himself is the hardest work of a psychiatrist. And MANDATORY stationary under supervision with separation from the sect's habitat. Practically like bringing a drug addict back to life. The percentage of cure is about the same.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 21 November 2016 20: 04
                +3
                Thanks for the clarification, I vaguely remember that they led one by one. And this is in the center of Old Arbat. Now even hiding.
  3. sontinianin
    sontinianin 21 November 2016 15: 35
    +3
    Cristiano Ronaldo admitted to being gay ,, And this is the value of Europe !!!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 November 2016 16: 59
      +2
      Quote: sontinianin
      Cristiano Ronaldo admitted to being gay ,, And this is the value of Europe !!!

      The Gay Alliance of Ukraine launched a lie into the media space, which, moreover, is attributed to American Republican politician Stephen Hotz.
      “Russians invented homosexuality” and “homosexuality was invented in the USSR to destroy America” - these false allegations, according to Ukraine’s gay alliance, were allegedly made by Hotz at an evangelist conference in Texas.
  4. killganoff
    killganoff 21 November 2016 15: 37
    +8
    Garni photo from the news. The whole essence of euromaidan revealed!
  5. Niccola Mack
    Niccola Mack 21 November 2016 16: 01
    +2
    Practice shows that at the present time, “velvet revolutions” do not themselves flare up.

    As it does not look like the Maidan "velvet revolution" - whatever one may say, but there is too much blood!
  6. esaul1950
    esaul1950 21 November 2016 16: 20
    +5
    Quote: GOGENATOR
    The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.

    HA HA HA! Well, you and the analyst.
  7. Retvizan
    Retvizan 21 November 2016 16: 48
    +2
    Emotionally, a bad trait for analytics.
    Quote: article author
    Nevertheless, the day of November 21 is celebrated in Ukraine as a big holiday: "Day of Dignity and Freedom." Dignity is, therefore, to accept those same notorious cookies and beg for help from Europe. And freedom is when the number of absurd bans grows every day: you can’t watch certain TV channels, then listen to artists - “Putin’s spies”, then speak any other language except mova ...

    As for the holiday - I recognized it only by the flags, and now in VO.
    I watch "Putin's artists" they are even shown on the central music channel of Ukraine with might and main! They have concerts (even with breakdowns at times), they will have a ceremony there ..
    Oh yeah, I’m not even talking in Move .. as well as the whole city ... all the separatyugs. And if you add dissatisfaction, it was not in vain that the whole city was closed there. However, we are "braggart" (according to Roman) .. what to take from us ..
    In general, there are a lot of emotions for analytics. In Ukraine, this is standard. But still, analytics is all bad because it’s bad, it’s better to move Opinions.
  8. Egoza
    Egoza 21 November 2016 17: 33
    +9
    It is impossible to arrange a revolution, in which you do not believe, but "support", if there is an inner moral core. The thirst for "freebies" and "beautiful life" has developed among Ukrainians since the time of their enslavement by the Poles. So they dreamed, looking at the "proud lords" to be the same "masters", to look down on everyone .... and TG wrote about this perfectly. Shevchenko (I hope you will understand without translation)
    Foolish and proud people
    In all ways, according to all usudes,
    And boast, the axis is mi
    I above the earth, i by the water
    І od chambers that before turmi
    The mustache of the king, and above itself
    Already a despot - such a king,
    I on the throne and in captivity.
    I’m all those of good will,
    By the will of the rosum to burn,
    Yak that lighthouse at the blue sea,
    Chi those ... in everyday life. Itself so
    We have bones
    Burn that rosy beacon
    And my olives are pouring
    Ta bajuzhe sobі spіvaєm -
    Chi in good times, chi in misfortune.
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 21 November 2016 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      It’s impossible to make a revolution you don’t believe in

      The term revolution cannot be used with reference to events in Ukraine.
      A revolution is a fundamental change in the social and social structure. For example, October 1917 is a revolution, the perestroika of 1985-1991 is also a revolution (or counter-revolution) - since there is a change in the social structure.
      In Ukraine, an armed coup d'etat took place, which led to a change in geopolitical orientation, but not in the socio-economic formation.
      Quote: Egoza
      The thirst for "freebies" and "beautiful life" has developed among Ukrainians since the time of their enslavement by the Poles.

      It is difficult to agree with this thesis.
      1) The Ukrainian people was created in the 20th century, before that the concept of Ukraine had the meaning of a toponym (that is, a place indicator), and this toponym was not applied to the entire territory of the Ukrainian SSR. What kind of "Ukrainians" can we talk about in such a long time?
      2) Suppose that in the 17th century there was a Ukrainian people. But even in this case, the whole people cannot have a "thirst for freebies" in any way, it turns out that you endow the entire people with a certain negative property inherent only to them. This, sorry, is pure racism.
      And the position of the Polish peasants in the ancient Rzeczpospolita was not much better than the situation of Ukrainian peasants (that is, Rusyn). So, if any individuals could have a "thirst for freebies", then it was of a social, not a national character. Rusyn, could dream of becoming a nobleman, but not a Pole.
      It is all the more strange to empower the peasant workers for the most part, always striving to get rid of the parasites of the landlords with a certain thirst for a freebie, which also has a strictly national character.
  9. 72jora72
    72jora72 21 November 2016 17: 35
    +7
    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
    3. Our attention is clearly inadequate on the other side - for what purpose? Why do not give the word sane? Are there such people there? So make enemies intentionally. By the way, Sharia is not an example.

    So show me at least one, as you say "sane" Ukrainian politician, watered observer, TV presenter ?? Where are they?? Have you ever tried to watch Ukrainian TV for 3-4 hours (1 + 1, 112, Pershy, etc.)?
  10. Scud
    Scud 21 November 2016 17: 59
    +6
    There was a catastrophe with the collapse of the USSR, there were putsches and armed clashes in Russia, there was already one maydown here in dill, it would seem that you could get a little smarter by stuffing the shakes. So no, give the second third Maidan, kill your inhabitants to the left and right. A crest is the meanest creature on earth.
  11. orphan 63
    orphan 63 21 November 2016 18: 25
    +4
    O. Stone's film " Ukraine on fire " on Ren TV today will be shown twice -

    в 17.00 and 23.25
  12. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 21 November 2016 19: 08
    +2
    I still don’t understand why they put pots on their heads. request
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 November 2016 19: 41
      +4
      Quote: tsvetkov1274
      I still don’t understand why they put pots on their heads.

      This is protection against exposure to Russian satellites! tongue And then they will irradiate - and you will remember that you are Russian and not in Europe you need! laughing
      Threat. first line - This is not a joke, but a real explanation from the pan-and-legheads when I asked them the same question.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 21 November 2016 21: 29
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        This is protection against exposure to Russian satellites!

        Quote: Egoza
        This is not a joke, but a real explanation from the pan-leg

        But the enemy turned out to be cunning - he kicked from the rear, the Russian satellites, as it turned out, became like people and spread their radiation in other ways, from which the pans and their modifications in the form of basins and colanders began to focus on the contrary what got through the eyes and ears and dulling effect increased yes wassat
  13. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 21 November 2016 19: 10
    0
    In general, the album'Alisa "came out, many songs are in the subject
  14. Damask
    Damask 21 November 2016 19: 49
    +2
    To stir up, in order to lose territories, but it’s not in vain that they give out orders
  15. Penzyac
    Penzyac 21 November 2016 19: 52
    +2
    Quote: GOGENATOR
    I don’t deny that the same oligarchs captured all the same. But part of the people believed and was deceived.

    To deceive that is not difficult, who is glad to deceive himself ...
  16. Penzyac
    Penzyac 21 November 2016 19: 58
    +2
    Quote: tsvetkov1274
    I still don’t understand why they put pots on their heads. request

    These are, like, ersatz helmets, but as it turned out, they also shield the brains, put them on and the thought remained only one: "I'm in the house" ...
  17. Penzyac
    Penzyac 21 November 2016 20: 07
    +1
    Quote: Niccola Mack
    Practice shows that at the present time, “velvet revolutions” do not themselves flare up.

    As it does not look like the Maidan "velvet revolution" - whatever one may say, but there is too much blood!

    Well, after all, the "revolution" is. And what is a revolution without blood? It is impossible without blood, no one will believe that this is a revolution. And velvet is not a hindrance to blood ...
  18. Rock616
    Rock616 21 November 2016 20: 26
    +4
    I would like to wish our NON-BROTHERS on such a solemn day for the PAN-HEAD ROUGULE, continue in the same soul as the last three years, and so that more than one day does not pass without the PEREMOG! drinks wassat good
  19. Skeptic Self-Taught
    Skeptic Self-Taught 21 November 2016 21: 42
    +1
    Quote: your1970
    for the residents of Donbass, it is better that they were "here" ...
    and by the way, what will they influence if they don’t change their point of view?

    We lost Ukraine, simply because we already have children from those who were born in 1991, who did NOT find the USSR. And let's understand this, yes, normal relations are possible, but what was happening during the USSR cannot be returned ...


    That's it, do not return. There will not be that level of trust, which means ... we lost.
    And it will take one dozen, or even a hundred years. before what was lost comes back.
    And this is sad. Restoring trust is work, work from two sides. Hard, daily work.
    I'm not ready for her at the moment. Alas.
  20. byxarik1
    byxarik1 21 November 2016 22: 50
    0
    and in the photo garne lad))) fool
  21. ochakow703
    ochakow703 22 November 2016 02: 25
    +1
    "Day of Dignity and Freedom" ... yes, you have to endure the brain like that. So I wonder when and from whom Ukraine was no longer "free" - before the fascist coup, or after it. Well, with "dignity", so it's generally all tip-top. Currently, a wonderful (it was long ago ...) country of Ukraine - dignity, like a station whore - whoever beckons with a candy wrapper, I will give myself up. Eh .... la!
  22. indulf
    indulf 22 November 2016 11: 21
    0
    Quote: GOGENATOR
    The Ukrainians even tried to create a democratic government, but other corrupt officials used their revolution.

    So turn your back on a friend of the steppes, "The revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and the bastards use its fruits" (c) Axiom.
  23. indulf
    indulf 22 November 2016 12: 37
    +2
    Quote: Berkut752
    Ukraine was born by accident, died stupidly.

    Lived sinfully, died funny (c) Katorzhan proverb